December 12, 2024 • 32 mins
Ever wondered how a self-proclaimed "asshole" transforms into an ambassador of kindness? Join us as Ernie Wood, life coach and author of "Asshole to Awesome: Journey to Joy and Happiness", shares his extraordinary path from negativity to positivity. In a candid conversation, Ernie unpacks how societal pressures, such as racism and group dynamics, can lead to negative behavior and the importance of recognizing and overcoming these patterns. We explore the resistance to change many face, often due to the comfort of familiar habits, and how Ernie confronted his own negative traits to embrace a life filled with joy and kindness.
Discover the poignant lessons Ernie learned about forgiveness and letting go of grudges, illustrated by a touching story about a strained family relationship. We highlight the key role kindness, gratitude, and empathy play in fostering a better world. As we shift gears to health and wellness, we discuss the benefits of nasal breathing and the revolutionary concept of intermittent fasting. With a focus on creating a balanced life, Ernie shares personal experiences and practical strategies to optimize physical and mental well-being. Whether you're seeking personal growth or just curious about the power of kindness, this episode promises insights and inspiration for a more fulfilling life.
It's one thing to highlight the kindness that we see in the world, but it's another to, as I put in many of my social media posts, #bethechange. I am donating all of my royalties from the sale of my book, Change A World; In Order to Change The World to local and national non-profits. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Hey, hello and welcomeeverybody.
Fantastic to have you heretoday and also fantastic to have
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my guest here today.
He's an amazing life coach andthe author of the best-selling
book ready Asshole to Awesome.
Journey to Joy and Happiness.
Welcome to the show, ernestWood.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hey, thanks for having me, Mike.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We can call you Ernie , though, right.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, you can call me Ernie.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Just don't call me late for supper.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Or a-hole.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You're not that guy anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, I am not.
Most of the time I'm not.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Nine times out of ten .
I'm not.
That's quite a title for a book.
A title for a book and you sayon your website that you were
basically not a very nice guy tobe around.
I was just looking at that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh yeah, Some of my description of myself there.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Self-description yes.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's funny because most of my friends say friends
say, dude, when were you anasshole?
But like when everybody has thesame like wrong kind of humor
and the and those little thingsright, and then you're not.
You're in the same crowd, right, and that's right.
Some of the buddies are like no, I'm not gonna read your.
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I like being an asshole.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Are there some people who just don't want to change.
They don't want to be better,or what have you?
Do you think?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
that too many people just get stuck where they're at
and have absolutely no consciousto change or like, even like
they just think they're right.
You know, there there is nolooking at the other side.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah, no, I I think you're absolutely right.
I was funny because I wasthrough TikTok before we came on
and there was a guy and he saidhe was born in Germany but they
came to the United States andthey were put down in Georgia
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and then they moved from thereto Mississippi and he got sent
home once from school forfighting and his mom said to him
in German said you have to belike these people are and he was
talking about racism at thetime, but I mean you could
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probably throw any kind of badbehavior into that, right.
And she said because if youdon't act like they do, you will
always be getting into fightsand you'll always be sent home
from school.
I found that really sad that.
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But it kind of talks to whatwe're talking about.
Right, he didn't necessarilywant to be that guy, but he felt
like he had to, or his mom toldhim he had to in order to to
get along.
I don't know, just throwingthat out for what it's worth and
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it kind of goes to that whole.
People don't want to change.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's interesting, though, because I grew up in a
small town and when I was firstthere, we all got along.
It didn't matter what race youwere, as long as you played some
sports and you had that incommon.
And there was a time in my lifewhere not that I should use it,
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but I could use the N-word andnobody got mad about it.
It was just that was the groupof friends we were with right,
right.
And then that same town got aninflux of outside people, kind
of during that bad era wherethere was a lot of gangs and
right before the rodney kingthing and oh yeah, la was
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sending some of their people,receiving, you know, handouts or
whatever they were sending upto the high deserts because the
high desert was such a cheaperplace to live.
And then when those, when thatcrowd came along, I became like
an outsider to that same group,because now, like people were
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starting to accumulate rightright, like the blacks were with
the blacks, the mexicans werethe mess, the whites with the
whites, and then it becameseparated.
And then I learned that thatthat word is not not supposed to
be used by.
Like a white guy, yeah right, oranybody else, right, you know.
And then I from there I becamea pretty bad with the racism
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stuff.
Uh, I had a friend beat up justbecause he was a white guy, he
was in the wrong area, theyended up hitting him in the head
with a brick and he ended uphaving to take a helicopter over
to Loma Linda, and so there wasdifferent things that built up
and, just like that young guy,his mom said hey, you got to be
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this way or be that way, oryou're going to get beat up.
So it's sometimes.
Sometimes it feels like thosebad things happen almost out of
self-preservation.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We're put in situations where you're not
allowed to be who you want to bebecause you have to preserve or
you get beat up, or you getthis or that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, yeah and that's too bad, but how long were you
an asshole?
I can't say it with a straightface man.
I mean, was this most of yourlife?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I would say well, besides, when I was born they
said I was smiley, but frompretty much the majority, from
about I don't even know, maybe13, 14 to probably right around
43 ish, I had a lot of likeinside, anger, um all all my
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jokes were like racist, sexist I.
I just was just a person that Ididn't really like inside.
I mean, I had friends but Ididn't really like myself.
When I looked in the mirror itwasn't one of those warm and
fuzzy things where I wanted togive myself a hug.
Usually I looked at myself andwent damn, dude, you've got to
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fix some stuff man.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I was going to say was there one specific tipping
point where you went?
This has to change.
I can't keep living like this.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
There was actually two of them, and one of them was
a road rage incident.
I talk about it in my book.
I was listening.
I already had started workingdown the path of trying to be a
better person and I alwayslistened to books while I drove.
So I was listening to BrianTracy and he was right at that
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time.
He was talking about not givingaway your emotions to another
person.
And I see this car coming on thefreeway and I'm like dude, I
know this jackass is going toget in front of me.
So I squeeze up and he fliesacross.
He cuts me off.
Boom, there it is.
We start flipping each otheroff.
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I'm cutting off people, youknow, to prove the point, don't
cut me off.
I'm gonna cut off all theseother people to tell him what he
did was wrong.
Um, he, he break, checked me acouple times while, you know,
cut me off again, brake, checkme.
I'm losing my crap, man.
I'm, yeah, red, face, sweaty.
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And I finally get alongside ofhim and I'm about, you know,
just to tell him hey, pull over,let's go do this.
And I look back there and hehas a little kid in the back of
his car.
Well, that, like, honestly, itwas one of those moments that
when I saw that little kid, Ithought about the times that my
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dumb ass did something similarwith my kids in the car.
But I was at the right, at theright spot in life where I could
actually see hey, man, this isnot the right thing to do.
So after that I really startedworking on it real hard.
I probably read 500 self-helpbooks and different things and
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then the last one.
So that was like the firstcatalyst that really started
moving.
And the last one was when I wasat work.
I was working in the powerplant and one of my one of my
friends where I'm andcomplaining about work and doing
whatever, and he goes man,you're just like this guy over
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here, and not nobody on theplant wanted to be like that guy
, right okay he was supernegative.
He used the f word like all thetime and he was just really
really negative.
And when he told me that I waslike man, I've been really
trying to change and I'm stillthat guy, holy crap.
So like that was the day thatwas my last thing that I went on
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a serious thing.
I was like I'm changing and andI was telling my friends about
it and they were like, dude, youshould write a book.
And then that's where we cameup with the asshole, the awesome
, and it took me about four anda half years to finally write it
and get in a pretty good headspot where I can say I'm almost
awesome sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I'm awesome more often than not.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
All right, we'll go with that one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And it's.
Is this just a guy thing, or isit?
I mean, and I am, because men,we kind of stick with what we
know, don't we?
We have a tendency to.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I think guys in some way are harder headed about it
and like we don't like to admitwe're wrong, right, no?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
no.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
But what I find like with the women's side of it they
hold on to crap forever right,like if you're married and you
did something wrong 22 years ago.
You're probably going to hearabout it sometime in the next
week or two.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
At some point there's a good chance right.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
In some ways, I think there's a little bit of a-hole
in all of us and it's just amatter of actually seeing where
you're good and where you're bad, like in good or bad, it's all
relative.
Like, if you're not able toforgive somebody, then that's
probably a bad thing, that's.
I'll give you a quick storyabout forgiveness.
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My mother just passed withcancer, probably three, four
months ago, maybe five monthsago.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Actually seven months ago, and, uh, it was super fast
.
Like she passed out, hit herhead.
They went in, they found thatshe had a stroke and she had
cancer all over her body.
About three years before that,though, we got into an argument,
and so we weren't we weren'tgetting along, but we just
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started talking again, becauseshe held grudges like she would
not let stuff go, but to come tofind out when she found out
that she was sick, she nevertold anybody, but she cut me out
of her.
Well, when we went over there,I had a.
Well that was there.
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Then I found out I was cut outof it.
It was a big thing.
I was able to go back the nextday and tell her hey, mom, look,
I forgive you, I know all thishappened and I don't have.
Mom, look, I forgive you, youknow, I know all this happened
and I don't have any hardfeelings.
I was able to, I'm, I forgiveyou, I love you and I wish this
never happened.
And then she told me well, youcan shit in one hand and wish in
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the other one and see which onefills up faster.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And I never that.
That was the last words that mymom ever spoke to me.
So it was, yeah, it was likeone of those little ones that
like it hurts, yeah, but like toknow that my mom was willing to
go out without forgiving me,was something that I couldn't, I
can't, imagine doing, andthat's why I don't hold like
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grudges with anything anymore.
It ate her, it ate her apart.
I know it was part of thereason that she, you know, went
so fast because she didn't likeherself and she, just she did.
She held every negative thingever inside of her wow that was
a big changing moment in myforgiveness.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, and it.
I mean I know that frompersonal experience and I kind
of tend to do the same thing.
I talked about this before butand it's not, it's not healthy
at all to hold on to that stuff,to hold on to that stuff, but
and I really like when, when wefirst kind of connected.
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You said I believe kindness,gratitude, forgiveness and
empathy are the keys to making abetter world.
I couldn't agree with that more.
Yeah, it's gratitude.
Hey, we're coming up.
Hey, we're coming up.
Oh, we're in November.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Thanksgiving, huh yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So when you have sessions, you're a coach, right
Are most of your clients men?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, mainly just men .
I, I work with high achievingmen, uh, to help them re
rebalance their life, becausetoo many people in life,
especially in today's world, weonly look at the materialistic
things.
Right, we, we want to create asuccessful business so we can
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make the most amount of moneyand maybe have the best car.
And while we're creating that,I find that too many people lose
their self, their balance, andin balance is for me, I use four
pillars it's your physical,mental health, your
relationships and your legacy.
Health, your relationships andyour legacy.
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And to kind of bring that backto what you were saying, with
gratitude, empathy, forgivenessand kindness, that is where we
lack is because we're so focusedon being successful quote
unquote in the term of today'sworld that we forget our
relationships.
We forget to take care of ourhealth, our mental health.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yes, mental health is so important these days and
it's finally getting a littlemore attention now, but we could
do a lot better job abouttalking about it and just being
open about needing help orgetting help.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I agree 100%.
And the bad thing is, I think,like our I'm trying to think of
the right quote the world, likeour world, is profoundly sick
right now.
Like, not and I don't mean thatin a super negative way, but
right, we have one 131 millionadults having a prescription
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drug.
Right, you have 78 percent ofpeople that are obese or
overweight.
Um, 70 percent of people arejust in a constant state of
dehydration.
Over 60 percent of people don'tget enough sleep.
I mean, there's just statisticsupon statistics that's saying
that we're just in a sick worldand a lot of it is just because
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we're out of balance.
Like, not getting enough sleepis one of the biggest things,
biggest impacts on anybody'slife.
I mean there's only one out ofevery 12,000 people that can
live with less than seven toeight hours of sleep.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, for sure I'm one of I age I take Z-Quil to go
to sleep at night and stayasleep Because if I don't, I'm
up like two hours after I go tobed and my mind is running at a
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million miles an hour like asquirrel on a track right and I
can't go back to sleep andthat's not healthy squirrel on a
track right and I can't go backto sleep.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And that's not healthy.
And you know why that like whyit's they're finding so sleep
efficiency peaks out when you'rearound 21 years old or peaks
out of like 85%, and then whenyou get older, your sleep
efficiency falls off.
But what they've been findingout, why it falls off,
especially in the day's world,is because, like your telephone,
your computer, your, your tv,they give off the blue light
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which used to only happen withthe sun, right, right, so it
throws our circadian rhythm outof whack, which is one of the
biggest causes of our sleep, youknow, inefficiency and then
that constant stress that all ofus are in.
Most of us can't sit aroundlike you, can't sit in a room by
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yourself for five minutes, mostpeople.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You mean like without a phone or something.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, without a phone , without some kind of outside
stimulant, but what I have foundlike the most and I'm going to
take this back to kindness themost kind thing that you can do
for yourself is learn how tobreathe properly and be okay
with being there, just withyourself breathing.
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There's a crazy thing that 50%of the people are now mouth
breathers, which there's asaying that you should breathe
through your mouth as often asyou eat through your nose.
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Basically never right , there's so many bad things it
does for the body Interesting.
I did not realize that.
I mean, I've heard mouthbreather as a pejorative, you
know such a mouth breather, butI did not realize that that was
not healthy situations rightlike yeah, from like the caveman
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days when we were gettingchased by the lion or whatever
you would breathe through themouth.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But now we're, we're, we're almost in a constant
state of overstimulation.
Um, even even they talk aboutjust watching, like when you sit
on the phone.
If you watch people when theylook on the phone, like say, you
have your phone here both thetime their mouths are open or
slightly open, so they startbreathing through their mouth.
It's just a weird, like a weirdwhole societal thing that we're
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in.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
You know, I used to notice that about my dad.
Now it's not so weird, but hewould sit there and watch TV and
he'd be like you know just.
And now I catch myself doing it.
I'm like snap out of it.
But yeah, doorknob, knock itoff.
I yeah.
No, I did not realize.
So what happens when youbreathe through your mouth, is
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it?
I mean, what's the harm there?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So a lot of people don't realize is 80% of your
detoxification actually happensthrough breathing, right, Okay,
when you breathe through yournose, that's where all your hair
and it filters it, it warms it,it moisturizes it and it allows
it to get into your systemproperly.
When you breathe through yourmouth, it doesn't allow any of
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that.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
So we were talking about mouth breathing and how
your nose filters out that stuff.
When you breathe through yournose, the toxins and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, so the breathing through the nose.
There's a whole lot of studiesdone on it, but basically you
should be breathing through yournose all the time and most of
us shallow breathe, which that'swhen you see somebody their
shoulders raise up and down.
Yeah, they say that thediaphragm is the most
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underutilized muscle in theentire body.
So any of your guests I wouldhighly recommend learning how to
breathe.
That is, it helps with yoursleep, it helps with everything
all the way down the line, right, oh wow, if you think about it,
you can go months withouteating.
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You can go a couple of dayswithout drinking.
You only can go a few minuteswithout breathing.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And many of us are not breathing right pretty much
all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Now is this part of your course as well.
When you say balance, this is,this is all encompassing right.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Uh yeah, um, cause what?
What I like to do is I find out, like, where you're lacking,
like I go through a bunch ofquestions and find out where you
know, where you feel good aboutyourself, where are a couple of
things A lot of people lack inthe same little areas.
Right, it's going to be energy,and so when they hit on energy,
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and then I go into their sleep,how much sleep do they get?
And if they get enough sleep,then we talk about like their
breathing, and then with thebreathing, then we talk, you
know, and then their foods, andit's crazy, like we were all
taught growing up.
You know three meals a day,four meals a day, and that
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little chart Remember thatlittle crap chart that was a
pyramid, the pyramid yep.
If you look at that foodnowadays, half that crap you
shouldn't even be eating, right,right.
And then they've found most menoperate better on an
intermittent fasting schedule.
Interesting Me personally, I doa 16 hour fast every day.
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I'm actually on a 24 hour fastright now.
I do a 48 to 72 hour fastmonthly and the benefits of that
like do some research foryourself before you hop into a
fast.
But I mean, it's almost likegetting stem cell, you know you
can oh wow yeah, you can get ridof some of your cancerous cells
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.
It'll go through a whole processwhere it'll you'll actually get
a testosterone boost.
You'll go through like mentalclarity on my second day of
fasting I have.
I'm probably the most focusedthat I'm at at all in an entire
month.
Those are my best, most focuseddays that's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Wow, I had no idea.
I don't know that I could fastyou.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You'd be surprised, because I used to be that guy.
I ate at seven o'clock, I ateat 10 o'clock, I ate at seven
o'clock, I ate at 10 o'clock, Iate at 12 o'clock, two o'clock,
four o'clock and six o'clock.
I was like in the bodybuildingand all that stuff.
Yeah, I didn't miss food likeever.
So I just had to do it inlittle increments, like when I
started doing intermittentfasting.
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I started with a 12 on, 12 offand then I got it to most of the
time I'm between 1816 18 hours.
No, no food, and then I'll eatthat six to eight hours.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Okay, okay, I think I could probably do it if the 12
hours were when I was asleep.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
That's.
That's how you start, for realwere when I was asleep.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's how you start for real.
That's the best part.
Yeah, and it's funny too Again,and we're probably talking
about metabolism and that maynot be where you're at, but just
I've become like hyper aware ofthe things that I could eat
just like 10 years ago, that ifI tried to eat like that now,
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you know I would just explode inweight.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know sausage and bacon and eggs for breakfast and
a sandwich for lunch and allthis stuff and I'm like I even
look at bread now and I putweight on man, it's nasty, it's
horrible well, the bad thing isis what they've done to the
bread and, like I am not a hugefan of the whole united states
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food industry, the fda is fundedby 45 funded by the people that
they're supposed to be, youknow, regulating.
Yeah, we have the, the crapoils that are out there
absolutely destroying the bodies, sugars and everything.
Everything, uh, flour, andthere's a serotonin is actually
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produced.
Most of it is actually producedin our gut, right?
Yeah, a lot of people don'trealize that, which is serotonin
is one of the most importanthormones for our body.
Yeah, and it's actuallyproduced in our gut.
And we're over here throwingsugar, which is horrible, and it
just turns into acid.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
you know, it just does bad things to your overall
balance right, okay, so I get,yes, I guess in a in a
roundabout way, that that doesfeed into what you were talking
about balance.
This is all so cool.
I really it's probablysomething I need to work on, and
I keep talking to these coaches.
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They're like, well, you need todo the work and we need to get
in there and see what you'rereally like, and I'm like I have
no interest in doing that.
I'm 64.
Every day I wake up is ablessing, right?
So you know, I don't want tolive to be a hundred and I don't
, you know, yeah whatever.
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And whatever, again, whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's funny because it's just you gotta be okay with
where you're at and like youhave this kindness podcast,
which is awesome, and fromchatting with you from chatting
with you, you seem like you'reokay with where you're at right.
If you were not happy and youdisliked where you were at, then
yeah, do the change.
But if you're happy and you'resuccessful enough to do the
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things that you want to do andhave that legacy, that's part of
the balance too.
Right Is having that legacyLike that's part of the balance
too.
Right Is having that legacy.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You don't want to go out being the guy who everybody
talks about.
Man, he was a great businessguy, but he was a hell of a jerk
.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He was a jerk.
Yeah, he was an asshole.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, he was an asshole Like you, don't.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Some people may still say that about me, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay, I don't know you that well, but I don't get
the asshole feeling from youWell.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You are doing amazing work, ernie.
I really, really appreciate thework that you're doing and I
will have links to your website.
And if guys especially guys, ifyou're listening to this and
you're not happy with whereyou're at, ernie's your man.
He can get you where you needto be and actually want to be.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I'll tell you it's a cool little like.
I come up I have a six littleweek.
It's a six-week program.
I call it Master your Life withBalance Blueprint and it just
helps you get in those takesthose four pillars and find out
where you're missing.
And a lot of it's just littlethings Like.
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I'll give you one quick example, which I'll end it with that is
being grateful.
Every single morning I writethree things that I'm grateful
for One about myself, one aboutmy partner, my wife, and then
one about the world.
If you can just change that andget that going in your life,
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your mindset will changetremendously will change
tremendously.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, oh, for sure, I know Journaling is another one.
I think that helps.
And yeah, yeah, just do thosethings.
Wake up every morning, and ifyou can't find anything to be
grateful for, we need to.
There's some deeper work needsto be done right.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That yeah, you're going to.
Probably, we're probably goingto have to refer you to one of
my friends.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
All right.
Well, Ernest, thank you so much.
I really appreciate the timethat you spent with me today.
I appreciate the work thatyou're doing and keep up the
good work, man.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Thank you, Mike Pleasure being on the show.
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Hey, hello and welcomeeverybody.
Fantastic to have you heretoday and also fantastic to have
(01:05):
my guest here today.
He's an amazing life coach andthe author of the best-selling
book ready Asshole to Awesome.
Journey to Joy and Happiness.
Welcome to the show, ernestWood.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hey, thanks for having me, Mike.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We can call you Ernie , though, right.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, you can call me Ernie.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Just don't call me late for supper.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Or a-hole.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You're not that guy anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, I am not.
Most of the time I'm not.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Nine times out of ten .
I'm not.
That's quite a title for a book.
A title for a book and you sayon your website that you were
basically not a very nice guy tobe around.
I was just looking at that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh yeah, Some of my description of myself there.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Self-description yes.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's funny because most of my friends say friends
say, dude, when were you anasshole?
But like when everybody has thesame like wrong kind of humor
and the and those little thingsright, and then you're not.
You're in the same crowd, right, and that's right.
Some of the buddies are like no, I'm not gonna read your.
(02:24):
I like being an asshole.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Are there some people who just don't want to change.
They don't want to be better,or what have you?
Do you think?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
that too many people just get stuck where they're at
and have absolutely no consciousto change or like, even like
they just think they're right.
You know, there there is nolooking at the other side.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah, no, I I think you're absolutely right.
I was funny because I wasthrough TikTok before we came on
and there was a guy and he saidhe was born in Germany but they
came to the United States andthey were put down in Georgia
(03:19):
and then they moved from thereto Mississippi and he got sent
home once from school forfighting and his mom said to him
in German said you have to belike these people are and he was
talking about racism at thetime, but I mean you could
(03:41):
probably throw any kind of badbehavior into that, right.
And she said because if youdon't act like they do, you will
always be getting into fightsand you'll always be sent home
from school.
I found that really sad that.
(04:01):
But it kind of talks to whatwe're talking about.
Right, he didn't necessarilywant to be that guy, but he felt
like he had to, or his mom toldhim he had to in order to to
get along.
I don't know, just throwingthat out for what it's worth and
(04:21):
it kind of goes to that whole.
People don't want to change.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's interesting, though, because I grew up in a
small town and when I was firstthere, we all got along.
It didn't matter what race youwere, as long as you played some
sports and you had that incommon.
And there was a time in my lifewhere not that I should use it,
(04:48):
but I could use the N-word andnobody got mad about it.
It was just that was the groupof friends we were with right,
right.
And then that same town got aninflux of outside people, kind
of during that bad era wherethere was a lot of gangs and
right before the rodney kingthing and oh yeah, la was
(05:11):
sending some of their people,receiving, you know, handouts or
whatever they were sending upto the high deserts because the
high desert was such a cheaperplace to live.
And then when those, when thatcrowd came along, I became like
an outsider to that same group,because now, like people were
(05:33):
starting to accumulate rightright, like the blacks were with
the blacks, the mexicans werethe mess, the whites with the
whites, and then it becameseparated.
And then I learned that thatthat word is not not supposed to
be used by.
Like a white guy, yeah right, oranybody else, right, you know.
And then I from there I becamea pretty bad with the racism
(05:56):
stuff.
Uh, I had a friend beat up justbecause he was a white guy, he
was in the wrong area, theyended up hitting him in the head
with a brick and he ended uphaving to take a helicopter over
to Loma Linda, and so there wasdifferent things that built up
and, just like that young guy,his mom said hey, you got to be
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this way or be that way, oryou're going to get beat up.
So it's sometimes.
Sometimes it feels like thosebad things happen almost out of
self-preservation.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We're put in situations where you're not
allowed to be who you want to bebecause you have to preserve or
you get beat up, or you getthis or that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, yeah and that's too bad, but how long were you
an asshole?
I can't say it with a straightface man.
I mean, was this most of yourlife?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I would say well, besides, when I was born they
said I was smiley, but frompretty much the majority, from
about I don't even know, maybe13, 14 to probably right around
43 ish, I had a lot of likeinside, anger, um all all my
(07:31):
jokes were like racist, sexist I.
I just was just a person that Ididn't really like inside.
I mean, I had friends but Ididn't really like myself.
When I looked in the mirror itwasn't one of those warm and
fuzzy things where I wanted togive myself a hug.
Usually I looked at myself andwent damn, dude, you've got to
(07:53):
fix some stuff man.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I was going to say was there one specific tipping
point where you went?
This has to change.
I can't keep living like this.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
There was actually two of them, and one of them was
a road rage incident.
I talk about it in my book.
I was listening.
I already had started workingdown the path of trying to be a
better person and I alwayslistened to books while I drove.
So I was listening to BrianTracy and he was right at that
(08:27):
time.
He was talking about not givingaway your emotions to another
person.
And I see this car coming on thefreeway and I'm like dude, I
know this jackass is going toget in front of me.
So I squeeze up and he fliesacross.
He cuts me off.
Boom, there it is.
We start flipping each otheroff.
(08:47):
I'm cutting off people, youknow, to prove the point, don't
cut me off.
I'm gonna cut off all theseother people to tell him what he
did was wrong.
Um, he, he break, checked me acouple times while, you know,
cut me off again, brake, checkme.
I'm losing my crap, man.
I'm, yeah, red, face, sweaty.
(09:08):
And I finally get alongside ofhim and I'm about, you know,
just to tell him hey, pull over,let's go do this.
And I look back there and hehas a little kid in the back of
his car.
Well, that, like, honestly, itwas one of those moments that
when I saw that little kid, Ithought about the times that my
(09:28):
dumb ass did something similarwith my kids in the car.
But I was at the right, at theright spot in life where I could
actually see hey, man, this isnot the right thing to do.
So after that I really startedworking on it real hard.
I probably read 500 self-helpbooks and different things and
(09:52):
then the last one.
So that was like the firstcatalyst that really started
moving.
And the last one was when I wasat work.
I was working in the powerplant and one of my one of my
friends where I'm andcomplaining about work and doing
whatever, and he goes man,you're just like this guy over
(10:14):
here, and not nobody on theplant wanted to be like that guy
, right okay he was supernegative.
He used the f word like all thetime and he was just really
really negative.
And when he told me that I waslike man, I've been really
trying to change and I'm stillthat guy, holy crap.
So like that was the day thatwas my last thing that I went on
(10:38):
a serious thing.
I was like I'm changing and andI was telling my friends about
it and they were like, dude, youshould write a book.
And then that's where we cameup with the asshole, the awesome
, and it took me about four anda half years to finally write it
and get in a pretty good headspot where I can say I'm almost
awesome sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I'm awesome more often than not.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
All right, we'll go with that one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And it's.
Is this just a guy thing, or isit?
I mean, and I am, because men,we kind of stick with what we
know, don't we?
We have a tendency to.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I think guys in some way are harder headed about it
and like we don't like to admitwe're wrong, right, no?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
no.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
But what I find like with the women's side of it they
hold on to crap forever right,like if you're married and you
did something wrong 22 years ago.
You're probably going to hearabout it sometime in the next
week or two.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
At some point there's a good chance right.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
In some ways, I think there's a little bit of a-hole
in all of us and it's just amatter of actually seeing where
you're good and where you're bad, like in good or bad, it's all
relative.
Like, if you're not able toforgive somebody, then that's
probably a bad thing, that's.
I'll give you a quick storyabout forgiveness.
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My mother just passed withcancer, probably three, four
months ago, maybe five monthsago.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Actually seven months ago, and, uh, it was super fast
.
Like she passed out, hit herhead.
They went in, they found thatshe had a stroke and she had
cancer all over her body.
About three years before that,though, we got into an argument,
and so we weren't we weren'tgetting along, but we just
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started talking again, becauseshe held grudges like she would
not let stuff go, but to come tofind out when she found out
that she was sick, she nevertold anybody, but she cut me out
of her.
Well, when we went over there,I had a.
Well that was there.
(13:06):
Then I found out I was cut outof it.
It was a big thing.
I was able to go back the nextday and tell her hey, mom, look,
I forgive you, I know all thishappened and I don't have.
Mom, look, I forgive you, youknow, I know all this happened
and I don't have any hardfeelings.
I was able to, I'm, I forgiveyou, I love you and I wish this
never happened.
And then she told me well, youcan shit in one hand and wish in
(13:31):
the other one and see which onefills up faster.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And I never that.
That was the last words that mymom ever spoke to me.
So it was, yeah, it was likeone of those little ones that
like it hurts, yeah, but like toknow that my mom was willing to
go out without forgiving me,was something that I couldn't, I
can't, imagine doing, andthat's why I don't hold like
(13:56):
grudges with anything anymore.
It ate her, it ate her apart.
I know it was part of thereason that she, you know, went
so fast because she didn't likeherself and she, just she did.
She held every negative thingever inside of her wow that was
a big changing moment in myforgiveness.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, and it.
I mean I know that frompersonal experience and I kind
of tend to do the same thing.
I talked about this before butand it's not, it's not healthy
at all to hold on to that stuff,to hold on to that stuff, but
and I really like when, when wefirst kind of connected.
(14:42):
You said I believe kindness,gratitude, forgiveness and
empathy are the keys to making abetter world.
I couldn't agree with that more.
Yeah, it's gratitude.
Hey, we're coming up.
Hey, we're coming up.
Oh, we're in November.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Thanksgiving, huh yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So when you have sessions, you're a coach, right
Are most of your clients men?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, mainly just men .
I, I work with high achievingmen, uh, to help them re
rebalance their life, becausetoo many people in life,
especially in today's world, weonly look at the materialistic
things.
Right, we, we want to create asuccessful business so we can
(15:37):
make the most amount of moneyand maybe have the best car.
And while we're creating that,I find that too many people lose
their self, their balance, andin balance is for me, I use four
pillars it's your physical,mental health, your
relationships and your legacy.
Health, your relationships andyour legacy.
(16:02):
And to kind of bring that backto what you were saying, with
gratitude, empathy, forgivenessand kindness, that is where we
lack is because we're so focusedon being successful quote
unquote in the term of today'sworld that we forget our
relationships.
We forget to take care of ourhealth, our mental health.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yes, mental health is so important these days and
it's finally getting a littlemore attention now, but we could
do a lot better job abouttalking about it and just being
open about needing help orgetting help.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I agree 100%.
And the bad thing is, I think,like our I'm trying to think of
the right quote the world, likeour world, is profoundly sick
right now.
Like, not and I don't mean thatin a super negative way, but
right, we have one 131 millionadults having a prescription
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drug.
Right, you have 78 percent ofpeople that are obese or
overweight.
Um, 70 percent of people arejust in a constant state of
dehydration.
Over 60 percent of people don'tget enough sleep.
I mean, there's just statisticsupon statistics that's saying
that we're just in a sick worldand a lot of it is just because
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we're out of balance.
Like, not getting enough sleepis one of the biggest things,
biggest impacts on anybody'slife.
I mean there's only one out ofevery 12,000 people that can
live with less than seven toeight hours of sleep.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, for sure I'm one of I age I take Z-Quil to go
to sleep at night and stayasleep Because if I don't, I'm
up like two hours after I go tobed and my mind is running at a
(18:10):
million miles an hour like asquirrel on a track right and I
can't go back to sleep andthat's not healthy squirrel on a
track right and I can't go backto sleep.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And that's not healthy.
And you know why that like whyit's they're finding so sleep
efficiency peaks out when you'rearound 21 years old or peaks
out of like 85%, and then whenyou get older, your sleep
efficiency falls off.
But what they've been findingout, why it falls off,
especially in the day's world,is because, like your telephone,
your computer, your, your tv,they give off the blue light
(18:42):
which used to only happen withthe sun, right, right, so it
throws our circadian rhythm outof whack, which is one of the
biggest causes of our sleep, youknow, inefficiency and then
that constant stress that all ofus are in.
Most of us can't sit aroundlike you, can't sit in a room by
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yourself for five minutes, mostpeople.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You mean like without a phone or something.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, without a phone , without some kind of outside
stimulant, but what I have foundlike the most and I'm going to
take this back to kindness themost kind thing that you can do
for yourself is learn how tobreathe properly and be okay
with being there, just withyourself breathing.
(19:30):
There's a crazy thing that 50%of the people are now mouth
breathers, which there's asaying that you should breathe
through your mouth as often asyou eat through your nose.
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Basically never right , there's so many bad things it
does for the body Interesting.
I did not realize that.
I mean, I've heard mouthbreather as a pejorative, you
know such a mouth breather, butI did not realize that that was
not healthy situations rightlike yeah, from like the caveman
(20:19):
days when we were gettingchased by the lion or whatever
you would breathe through themouth.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But now we're, we're, we're almost in a constant
state of overstimulation.
Um, even even they talk aboutjust watching, like when you sit
on the phone.
If you watch people when theylook on the phone, like say, you
have your phone here both thetime their mouths are open or
slightly open, so they startbreathing through their mouth.
It's just a weird, like a weirdwhole societal thing that we're
(20:45):
in.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
You know, I used to notice that about my dad.
Now it's not so weird, but hewould sit there and watch TV and
he'd be like you know just.
And now I catch myself doing it.
I'm like snap out of it.
But yeah, doorknob, knock itoff.
I yeah.
No, I did not realize.
So what happens when youbreathe through your mouth, is
(21:09):
it?
I mean, what's the harm there?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So a lot of people don't realize is 80% of your
detoxification actually happensthrough breathing, right, Okay,
when you breathe through yournose, that's where all your hair
and it filters it, it warms it,it moisturizes it and it allows
it to get into your systemproperly.
When you breathe through yourmouth, it doesn't allow any of
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that.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
So we were talking about mouth breathing and how
your nose filters out that stuff.
When you breathe through yournose, the toxins and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, so the breathing through the nose.
There's a whole lot of studiesdone on it, but basically you
should be breathing through yournose all the time and most of
us shallow breathe, which that'swhen you see somebody their
shoulders raise up and down.
Yeah, they say that thediaphragm is the most
(22:12):
underutilized muscle in theentire body.
So any of your guests I wouldhighly recommend learning how to
breathe.
That is, it helps with yoursleep, it helps with everything
all the way down the line, right, oh wow, if you think about it,
you can go months withouteating.
(22:33):
You can go a couple of dayswithout drinking.
You only can go a few minuteswithout breathing.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And many of us are not breathing right pretty much
all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Now is this part of your course as well.
When you say balance, this is,this is all encompassing right.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Uh yeah, um, cause what?
What I like to do is I find out, like, where you're lacking,
like I go through a bunch ofquestions and find out where you
know, where you feel good aboutyourself, where are a couple of
things A lot of people lack inthe same little areas.
Right, it's going to be energy,and so when they hit on energy,
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and then I go into their sleep,how much sleep do they get?
And if they get enough sleep,then we talk about like their
breathing, and then with thebreathing, then we talk, you
know, and then their foods, andit's crazy, like we were all
taught growing up.
You know three meals a day,four meals a day, and that
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little chart Remember thatlittle crap chart that was a
pyramid, the pyramid yep.
If you look at that foodnowadays, half that crap you
shouldn't even be eating, right,right.
And then they've found most menoperate better on an
intermittent fasting schedule.
Interesting Me personally, I doa 16 hour fast every day.
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I'm actually on a 24 hour fastright now.
I do a 48 to 72 hour fastmonthly and the benefits of that
like do some research foryourself before you hop into a
fast.
But I mean, it's almost likegetting stem cell, you know you
can oh wow yeah, you can get ridof some of your cancerous cells
(24:24):
.
It'll go through a whole processwhere it'll you'll actually get
a testosterone boost.
You'll go through like mentalclarity on my second day of
fasting I have.
I'm probably the most focusedthat I'm at at all in an entire
month.
Those are my best, most focuseddays that's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Wow, I had no idea.
I don't know that I could fastyou.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You'd be surprised, because I used to be that guy.
I ate at seven o'clock, I ateat 10 o'clock, I ate at seven
o'clock, I ate at 10 o'clock, Iate at 12 o'clock, two o'clock,
four o'clock and six o'clock.
I was like in the bodybuildingand all that stuff.
Yeah, I didn't miss food likeever.
So I just had to do it inlittle increments, like when I
started doing intermittentfasting.
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I started with a 12 on, 12 offand then I got it to most of the
time I'm between 1816 18 hours.
No, no food, and then I'll eatthat six to eight hours.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Okay, okay, I think I could probably do it if the 12
hours were when I was asleep.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
That's.
That's how you start, for realwere when I was asleep.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's how you start for real.
That's the best part.
Yeah, and it's funny too Again,and we're probably talking
about metabolism and that maynot be where you're at, but just
I've become like hyper aware ofthe things that I could eat
just like 10 years ago, that ifI tried to eat like that now,
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you know I would just explode inweight.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know sausage and bacon and eggs for breakfast and
a sandwich for lunch and allthis stuff and I'm like I even
look at bread now and I putweight on man, it's nasty, it's
horrible well, the bad thing isis what they've done to the
bread and, like I am not a hugefan of the whole united states
(26:30):
food industry, the fda is fundedby 45 funded by the people that
they're supposed to be, youknow, regulating.
Yeah, we have the, the crapoils that are out there
absolutely destroying the bodies, sugars and everything.
Everything, uh, flour, andthere's a serotonin is actually
(26:54):
produced.
Most of it is actually producedin our gut, right?
Yeah, a lot of people don'trealize that, which is serotonin
is one of the most importanthormones for our body.
Yeah, and it's actuallyproduced in our gut.
And we're over here throwingsugar, which is horrible, and it
just turns into acid.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
you know, it just does bad things to your overall
balance right, okay, so I get,yes, I guess in a in a
roundabout way, that that doesfeed into what you were talking
about balance.
This is all so cool.
I really it's probablysomething I need to work on, and
I keep talking to these coaches.
(27:35):
They're like, well, you need todo the work and we need to get
in there and see what you'rereally like, and I'm like I have
no interest in doing that.
I'm 64.
Every day I wake up is ablessing, right?
So you know, I don't want tolive to be a hundred and I don't
, you know, yeah whatever.
(27:57):
And whatever, again, whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's funny because it's just you gotta be okay with
where you're at and like youhave this kindness podcast,
which is awesome, and fromchatting with you from chatting
with you, you seem like you'reokay with where you're at right.
If you were not happy and youdisliked where you were at, then
yeah, do the change.
But if you're happy and you'resuccessful enough to do the
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things that you want to do andhave that legacy, that's part of
the balance too.
Right Is having that legacyLike that's part of the balance
too.
Right Is having that legacy.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You don't want to go out being the guy who everybody
talks about.
Man, he was a great businessguy, but he was a hell of a jerk
.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He was a jerk.
Yeah, he was an asshole.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, he was an asshole Like you, don't.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Some people may still say that about me, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay, I don't know you that well, but I don't get
the asshole feeling from youWell.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You are doing amazing work, ernie.
I really, really appreciate thework that you're doing and I
will have links to your website.
And if guys especially guys, ifyou're listening to this and
you're not happy with whereyou're at, ernie's your man.
He can get you where you needto be and actually want to be.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I'll tell you it's a cool little like.
I come up I have a six littleweek.
It's a six-week program.
I call it Master your Life withBalance Blueprint and it just
helps you get in those takesthose four pillars and find out
where you're missing.
And a lot of it's just littlethings Like.
(29:44):
I'll give you one quick example, which I'll end it with that is
being grateful.
Every single morning I writethree things that I'm grateful
for One about myself, one aboutmy partner, my wife, and then
one about the world.
If you can just change that andget that going in your life,
(30:08):
your mindset will changetremendously will change
tremendously.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, oh, for sure, I know Journaling is another one.
I think that helps.
And yeah, yeah, just do thosethings.
Wake up every morning, and ifyou can't find anything to be
grateful for, we need to.
There's some deeper work needsto be done right.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That yeah, you're going to.
Probably, we're probably goingto have to refer you to one of
my friends.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
All right.
Well, Ernest, thank you so much.
I really appreciate the timethat you spent with me today.
I appreciate the work thatyou're doing and keep up the
good work, man.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Thank you, Mike Pleasure being on the show.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Fantastic.
Take care Bye.
I want to thank you for takingthis time to listen to this
episode with my guest, ernestErnie Wood.
I hope you're able to takesomething positive from the time
you spent here with us.
Maybe you'll be inspired, maybeyou'll be motivated, maybe
(31:13):
you'll be moved.
If you experienced any of thosepositive feelings, please
consider sharing this podcastwith your friends and family.
Also, feel free to follow us onour socials like Facebook,
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You've been listening to theKindness Matters Podcast.
I'm your host, mike Rathbun.
Have a fantastic week.
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