October 21, 2023 • 41 mins
What if the world is stripped of all things pumpkin spice? Would you survive the Fall without the iconic Pumpkin Spice Latte from Starbucks, celebrating its 20th anniversary this year? With our three stellar guests from the audio community, we embark on a pumpkin spiced journey, exploring the wonderment of this annual Fall sensation. From our fervent speculations about whether pumpkin spice has lost its charm, to our deep-dived conversations on coffee preferences, this episode will take you on a flavorful ride like no other.
Ever walked into Trader Joe's during pumpkin spice season and felt overwhelmed by the sheer variety of pumpkin-flavored goodies? We certainly did! Together, we take a closer look at Trader Joe's extensive Fall pumpkin catalog, swooning over pumpkin ravioli filled with honey, brown sugar, and molasses, admiring pumpkin hand pies, and even getting a bit experimental with pumpkin overnight face masks. Yes, it's not all food - we've got beauty products and even dog treats!
Brace yourselves, we've got some controversy brewing in this episode as we explore the gender stereotyping associated with pumpkin spice. Joined by Beatrix Vale from the Slut Next Door Podcast, we navigate the murky waters around the criticism and mockery often tied to our beloved pumpkin spice. We also discuss the incredible versatility of pumpkins, their potential health benefits, and the myriad of ways to celebrate this spooky season with some Halloween-inspired activities and unique recipes. So, join me and my friends Smutty, Pandita, and Beatrix Vale, as we delve into our relationships with Pumpkin Spice Season. This episode is a must-listen for all pumpkin spice enthusiasts and skeptics alike, offering different perspectives on this seasonal favorite.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Kinky Eater, where adult content
creators talk about food, sex,kink and oralism.
Today it's all about pumpkinspice.
Yes, indeed, it is fall, solet's give them pumpkin to talk
about.
It's another gourd just day andall hollows.
(00:29):
Eve is upon us.
It's been and still is pumpkinspice season, whether you like
it or not.
Oh goodness, how early did itstart this year.
I didn't note it down, but Iwant to say it was like early
September or even maybe end ofAugust that we started seeing
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all these pumpkin spice flavorscoming out and Starbucks
starting to roll out thatseasonal stuff.
So I don't know, I could bewrong, but I swear that's what I
did.
Or maybe it's just my mind,because every year for the past
decade it seems as though thepumpkin spice flavors started
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occupying the shelves and menussort of everywhere we go just
early and earlier.
Just, it started just comingout earlier and earlier.
And they know, the industryknows that people will buy.
Also, joining me on the podcasttoday, I've got three friends
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from the audio community.
These girls are greatperformers Smuddy Pandita and
Miss Beatrix Vale.
You'll hear a bit from them onthe subject matter today and
then I promise you, if you stickto the end, you'll hear a
little bit more about them andwhere you can find them.
Trust me, you're going to wantto.
And guess what?
(01:57):
It's the 20th anniversary ofthe PSL, the Pumpkin Spice Latte
from Starbucks.
Yeah, the first PSL was madeand sold in fall of 2003 at
Starbucks locations inWashington DC and Vancouver.
So you know, you know, it'sthat delicious coffee drink.
(02:18):
It's got the mix of traditionalfall spice flavors like
cinnamon, nutmeg, clove.
It's got some steamed milk inthere, espresso sugar, sometimes
no sugar.
It's topped, usually toppedwith whipped cream and pumpkin
pie spice.
Is there actual pumpkin in it?
(02:43):
I don't think so.
I do believe, though, that whenit was first created, they were
originally mixing in, you know,pumpkin puree or pieces of
pumpkin, I think.
Or yeah had to be pumpkin puree,I think.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Anyway, peter Dukes is credited as one of the
founders of this pumpkin-y burstof stimulation.
Dukes was a former productmanager for Starbucks when his
team founded the PSL in 2003.
Dukes now holds the esteemedposition of director of global
growth and concepts for theSeattle coffee chain.
(03:22):
What I didn't realize is thatStarbucks peppermint mocha was
created and sold prior to thePSL.
Yeah, I mean apparently thatpeppermint mocha, when it came
out for the holidays, waspopular enough or so popular
that their product developmentteam was like, hey, let's led by
(03:45):
Dukes.
It was like, hey, let's go forother holidays.
Let's get them.
We got them already.
Let's pull them in.
Let's create more so we cankeep them.
Yeah, I mean, that's exactlywhat they did.
I actually don't drink thepeppermint mocha.
I don't.
I'm not a big fan of peppermint, for whatever reason.
(04:06):
Candy canes I don't even.
I don't even eat those.
I'm not a big candy eater, yeah.
Well depends, I think.
Certain candies, you know, butalso they, I think.
Starbucks has the new icedapple crisp oat shaken espresso.
I've never had it.
They also have the iced pumpkincream chai tea latte.
(04:28):
So if you like chai tea andwant some pumpkin in there,
they've got that.
It got everything for you.
So many drinks there.
I did read somewhere thatthere's I think 170,000
different drink combinations andI swear I was listening to a
podcast the other day statingthat there were like a billion
plus different combinations.
(04:49):
I don't know if there's thatmany, I mean, you have more of a
chance of winning the lotterythan there are Starbucks drink
combinations according to thatpodcast, and maybe it's, maybe
it's like a million differentcombinations.
I swear I heard billion.
Whatever.
I'm sure it's not true, nor doI care, but that's just mind
blowing.
(05:09):
I feel like they should paythose baristas more.
It's kind of ridiculous.
I mean I can't even imagine thetraining that they have to go
through, the baristas, to beable to know what to do with all
those combinations.
And then there's like a secretmenu, right?
You guys know about that secretmenu.
I don't know anything about it,but so unpopular but also
(05:35):
probably popular opinion.
It's a mixed bag.
But pumpkin season for me haslost its luster.
I'm definitely not as hype as Iused to be for pumpkin season.
My transition from a vanillasweet cream cold brew, which is,
has lately been my drink ofchoice for the past couple of
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years in the morning.
My transition from that drinkto a pumpkin spice cold brew or
pumpkin cream cold brew, I thinkit's called, or a PSL if I want
something hot, isn't a big dealanymore.
It's not not a big deal.
I don't necessarily lookforward to the switch like I
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used to.
Having said that, as long asit's available, I'm going to
order the pumpkin cream coldbrew over the vanilla sweet
cream cold brew.
Or if I want something hot, I'mgoing to order the PSL over the
classic caramel macchiato.
I do love a caramel macchiato.
Funny enough, I also lovedrinking coffee black Stooshes.
(06:42):
Anyway, I asked a few friendsin the erotic audio community to
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weigh in on the spices of fourand with the gourd.
One of them is my friend Smuddy, and here's a quickie about her
relationship to pumpkin spiceMusic.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Earlier this month I walked into the grocery store
and as I was shopping I couldsmell it in the air Pumpkin
spice.
I went down the bread aisle andfound English muffins pumpkin
spice flavor and immediatelygrabbed two.
I was so excited.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Wow, pumpkin spice flavored English muffins.
This is like the Britishinvasion, but with pumpkins.
It's the pumpkin-ish invasion,the pumpkin movement of the
2000s, composed of anything andeverything having pumpkin spice
sprinkled on it, spreadingrapidly across the United States
(08:21):
and beyond.
It can be overwhelming.
I asked Smuddy about what shethought of the resistance.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I'm sorry.
It's.
Fall is coming and this is afeat we have to accept.
Every year.
Pumpkin spice is pumpkin pie,it is cinnamon, it is nutmeg, it
is ginger and cloves, and allof these spices are so good and
anybody who has hate in theirheart for delicious spices, they
(08:57):
just need to chill the fuck out.
Yo, I'm just saying Life is tooshort not to masticate some
delicious pumpkin spice.
I am living for it.
I will die for it.
This is the hill I have climbed.
Fight me.
This is Smut Girl, aka Smuddy.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I wonder if Smuddy likes pumpkin spice.
Oh my God, she loves fall.
There's no doubt in my mind sheloves it.
It's part of her lifestyle.
Life is gourd when it's pumpkinseason.
I love Smuddy's voice.
Another take from the eroticaudio world.
(09:54):
My friend Pandita is a big timebaker.
When I asked Pandita about herrelationship to pumpkin and
pumpkin spice, I was not at allsurprised to hear her take on
the fall delicacy.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Hi, this is Pandita, or on Reddit, naughtypandita.
I am a big fan of pumpkin spice.
However, you will not find meordering a pumpkin spice latte,
but that's only because I'm notreally much of a coffee drinker
at all.
But I love to bake and thereare so many good recipes with
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pumpkin that I absolutely love.
I love making pumpkin muffins.
Pumpkin cheesecake is so good.
There's a great recipe forpumpkin gooey butter cakes.
That's just phenomenal.
Also, there's all these dipsthat you can make too, with
cream cheese and marshmallowfluff and, of course, the canned
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pumpkin.
And you always have to get justthe pure pumpkin, because the
pumpkin pie filling is justawful.
But there's so many differentthings that you can do and I
love, love, love all thedifferent flavors and especially
all the spices cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, it just all of those
(11:16):
spices go so well with pumpkinand I just I love everything
about fall baking, so I amdefinitely team pumpkin all the
way.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So far.
We've just heard from twolovers of the pumpkin season.
One of the things that amazesme is the buy-in from the
community, which has then, ofcourse, resulted in the buy-in
from retailers across yourguides, greener, it's fully
expected that everywhere you goyou're going to be exposed to
something, something pumpkinygoodness.
(12:00):
So in talking about pumpkinspice, you know, and how
pervasive it is and how it'sjust taken over and everything
is pumpkin, everything you know.
Great for the pumpkin, oh mygosh.
But looking at a lot of thestores, one of my favorite
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stores is Trader Joe's andnobody goes all in to me like
Trader Joe's does.
I mean they went all in.
I mean I can't fault TraderJoe's for being so crafty and
concocting like such a largemenu of pumpkin items.
(12:43):
There's an extensive list thatseems to never end.
There's so many items I don'teven count.
I did list it and I'm about toread them off and it's all just
pumpkin stuff.
And you know they've got likeand I didn't even list
(13:04):
everything They've got thebutternut squash items and the
cinnamon items and the applecinnamon items all for the fall,
kind of went through there andscrubbed it for just the pumpkin
stuff.
I mean the list really doesn'tstop.
But hey, let's go through someof it, and I'm pretty sure that
you guys might be pumpkined outalready I mean, halloween's
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close, but who knows, some ofyou guys, I love it or just eat
it up.
There's more than 50 items andthat's just pumpkin stuff.
They've got the butternutsquash items and the cinnamon
items and the apple cinnamonitems.
It really doesn't stop,although I think I did add some
of that deliciousness to thislist as well.
(13:48):
I tried to mostly make it thepumpkin stuff Okay.
So I'm going to try to gothrough this list pretty fast.
Since it's such a long list, Imay stop along the way to talk
about some of it, but I promiseyou I will get through it
quickly.
Okay, here we go.
Pumpkin bread mix, pumpkincranberry crisps, pumpkin ice
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cream, pumpkin whole the cone,which are actually sugar cone
ice cream cones in pumpkinflavor.
So it's not enough that theyhave pumpkin ice cream, but you
got to have pumpkin sugar cones.
Caramel apple mochi ice cream.
Okay, so that's a fall item.
I had to add it because I lovemochi ice cream.
I would have thought pumpkinmochi ice cream.
(14:31):
Maybe that wasn't the thing,maybe it didn't work in the test
lab, but apparently caramelapple mochi ice cream works.
I think I've got to try it.
Spatched cocked sweet savorychicken.
That is a fall item.
There is no pumpkin in it, butI love spatched cocked chicken.
It's like spatched cocked cock,but that chicken is good.
(14:53):
I think I'm going to try thisone too.
Normally they have it, I think,with some kind of orange flavor
, and I forgot what the theme isthere.
But let's go on.
Nandere pumpkin oat beverage.
Pumpkin bisque, pumpkinbutternut squash bisque, apple
and pumpkin hand pies.
(15:13):
I got to love.
Let me stop there.
I love hand pies.
They are from the south andusually you can get them with
sweet potatoes or something likethat, or yams and just a little
hand pies.
They're really almost likeempanadas but intended to be
like a dessert.
(15:34):
Pumpkin spice coffee.
Many pumpkin ginger scones fallharvest the salsa to go with
your pumpkin tortilla chips.
Pumpkin maple bacon flavoredstuffies.
These are actually dog treats.
Very nice Trader Joe's gettinginto the dog treat business.
I love it.
Pumpkin overnight face mask Okay, hold on, this is beauty Beauty
(15:56):
products here.
Now They've got some pumpkinbeauty products.
I don't do face masks Maybe Ishould, but if you like face
masks you might as well trypumpkin overnight.
One right.
Atominal harvest creamy pastasauce.
Gluten free pumpkin bread andmuffin mix.
Atominal harvest soup.
Harvest blend herbal tea.
You should check to see ifthere's any pumpkin in it.
(16:16):
I'm not sure.
Pumpkin spice Roy Boss tea.
Roy Boss, okay, this is a SouthAfrican tea and Roy Boss means
red bush.
So this tea is naturally noncaffeinated tea and they now
have pumpkin spice flavor.
Roy Boss tea.
Pumpkin cream cheese spread.
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Holy cow, I wonder if they havepumpkin bagels, pumpkin
biscotti, to go with yourpumpkin coffee, pumpkin Jojo's.
Jojo's are their Trader Joe'sversion of Oreos, basically
sandwich cookies with the creamin the middle, sandwich cream
cookies, halloween Jojo's.
(17:00):
So not the pumpkin kind, butbasically chocolate flavored
Jojo's but shaped and designedlike a pumpkin Petite pumpkin
spice cookies.
Pumpkin body butter again morebeauty products Vanilla, pumpkin
hand soap and hand lotion.
There we go.
Pumpkin pie, spice seasoning,of course, pumpkin spice cream,
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liquor, pumpkin overnight oatsoh, I love this one.
These are TJ's or Trader Joe'spumpkin cereal bars.
This one is called.
This pumpkin walks into a bar,pumpkin cereal bars.
This pumpkin walks into a bar.
That's a great product name.
That's because I love the puns.
(17:45):
Yeah, um, pecan pumpkin oatmeal.
Do you say pecan?
Or pecan?
Pumpkin flavored dog treats.
Another dog treat productPumpkin brioche twist.
That sounds good.
Anything brioche is good to me.
Okay, here's one the O&H BakeryPumpkin Kringle.
(18:05):
Trader Joe's does sell prettymuch all year round the Danish
Kringle, but for fall they madea pumpkin Kringle.
There you go.
Yeah, la Colombe.
Pumpkin spice draft latte in acan.
Pumpkin spiced pumpkin seeds,vanilla, pumpkin scented candles
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.
Pumpkin cheesecake.
Chocolate mousse pumpkin.
These are chocolate cakeslayered with a silky mousse,
orange colored shape like apumpkin, so it's not really
pumpkin flavor.
Pumpkin Greek nonfat yogurt.
A gourd tree pumpkin ciderGotta get that cider.
Howling gourd's pumpkin ale.
(18:45):
That sounds delicious.
I'm gonna have to try that.
Pumpkin O's.
This is Trader Joe's wholegrain, gluten-free, vegan cereal
version of Cheerio's pumpkinO's.
Pumpkin waffles.
Mini spicy pumpkin samosas Wow,if you love Indian food and you
love samosas, look what theymade for you Mini spicy pumpkin
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samosas.
Amazing Pumpkin butter.
Spiced pumpkin Madeleinecookies.
Pumpkin pancake and waffle mix.
Gluten-free pumpkin pancake mix.
Organic canned pumpkin.
Organic pumpkin spice granolabark.
Pumpkin chocolate chunk Oatmealcookie mix.
Pumpkin bagels Duh, why onearth would you make pumpkin
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cream cheese if you didn't makepumpkin bagels, please?
Well done, gluten-free pumpkinspice bagels.
There you go.
There's a gluten-free version.
Pumpkin cheesecake croissants.
Well then, might need to trythat.
Pumpkin sticky toffee cakes.
Okay, that sounds decent.
I need to try that.
Honey roasted pumpkin ravioliAlso has the gluten-free version
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.
Pumpkin spiced teeny tinypretzels these are pretzels with
a yogurt flavored coating andcrushed pumpkin spiced pumpkin
seeds on top.
Pumpkin spice batons I dobelieve these are like the
pro-fitter rolls that you couldhave with coffee, let's say in
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the morning.
Maybe you have them with someice cream or something or yogurt
.
I'm not sure I usually eat themwith ice cream.
I've had them with coffee.
So yeah, pumpkin spiced batons,pumpkin spiced Jojo's More
pumpkin spice sandwich cookies,except these sandwich cookies
have a yogurt flavored coatingwith sea salt.
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Pumpkin blonde brownies andpumpkin gnocchi.
Oh man, I love gnocchi.
I will say that all the gnocchisthat I've tried with any sort
of like sweet potato or anythinglike that is not as good as
when you have it with like aregular potato, which is more
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starchy.
I think it holds up a littlebetter.
So let's dive a little deeperinto the pumpkin ravioli,
because I feel like out of allthese, that is what I could eat
right now.
The pumpkin ravioli has sweetpumpkins that have been
slathered with honey, brownsugar and molasses.
It's roasted, pureed andblended with ricotta and
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mozzarella cheeses.
The honey roasted filling isthen packed into square all
colored pasta pillows.
Pumpkin ravioli.
That sounds delightful and Ithink I'm going to try some.
Okay that was a lot.
(21:43):
I mean, what a list.
It's both impressive andridiculous.
You could really live your bestpumpkin life shopping in there.
I mean, can?
you imagine all these pumpkinlovers going feral in the TJs.
Oh man, but like back to me,right, I'm still indifferent.
I'm always going to order thePSL or the pumpkin cream cold
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brew when it's available, but Idon't feel one way or another
about its arrival or departure.
Yeah, I mean later pumpkin.
Or hey, pumpkin, welcome back,I'm going to have you and then
later, pumpkin, see you nextyear.
Yeah, that's kind of where I'mat.
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We're going to take a quickbreak.
Hope you stick around.
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Speaker 6 (25:16):
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Speaker 1 (26:40):
So I'm curious you know that's like.
It's not unlike your journey oradventure with kink right
Because you just try new things.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Exactly, lour, look at these things don't look so
good.
Right, things look good, orI'll try that, yeah, I'm willing
to.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I don't like it.
I'm never gonna eat it again.
I'm never gonna do it again.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
My experience with tomatoes andonions is very similar to my
idea of degradation.
I mean if there's like smallamounts of it in it and I can't
really tell.
Sure, that's fine.
If it is the primary thing.
That is flavor in it.
(27:22):
Oh my God, I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So like there's no way you could have this caprese
salad because of the tomatoesright there, it's right in my
face, right in your face, andthat's like straight up
degradation.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Yeah, like how pathetic are you.
It doesn't taste good, yeah,exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
All right, welcome back.
Thanks for sticking around.
It just went over that longexhaustive Trader Joe's list,
but hey, we still got one morefriend to talk to.
For another, take my friendBeatrix Vale.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I love.
Bb is the host of the slut nextdoor podcast.
It's one of my favorite kinkypodcasts.
I asked her about what shethought of the whole pumpkin
phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Hi, my name is Beatrix Vale and I'm here to
give my opinions and thoughts onpumpkin and pumpkin spice.
So I'll start with this.
I tend to not want to likethings that other people go
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crazy about.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
B, you're speaking my language.
I've always been the type tobuck the crowd.
Be different, be original, be aleader and not a follower has
always been in my MO.
I asked B to give an example.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Really unrelated, but Game of Thrones I have not
watched yet.
I want to watch it, but Ididn't watch it when it came out
because I didn't want to belike everyone else.
That's really silly.
It really is silly, but I can'thelp it.
I don't want to be likeeveryone else.
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The current craze with pumpkinspice kind of annoys me because
it's connected to females, rightthat once October hits pumpkin
spice, everything, candles,drinks, whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Miss Beatrix has a point.
It's not lost on me that thereare some underlying issues with
some opinions about pumpkinspice season, and it's been
identified for a long time.
Back in 2016, a redditor namedEric Jensen posted pumpkin spice
hate season is coming again, sohere's a reminder from a
historian.
What we call pumpkin spice isjust the classic English and
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Anglo-American sweet spice mixCinnamon, ginger, cloves, nutmeg
, cardamom and mace.
It's been used in traditionaldesserts, from apple pie to plum
pudding, for centuries.
When did people start having aproblem with it?
Not when women were in thekitchen putting it in their pies
, but when women decided theyliked it in the coffee they
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grabbed on the way to school orwork.
So when you see peoplesnickering at the pumpkin spice
products this fall, rememberwhat they're mocking Women
choosing something for their ownpleasure rather than devoting
themselves to pleasing others.
Ah, a very poignant post, is itnot?
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In December 2021, an articlefrom the Manch Union stated that
in popular culture, the PSL hasbecome synonymous with the
basic teenage girl who plastersit over her Instagram in an
autumnal aesthetic.
It's derided as basic, alongwith rhapsodizing about crunched
leaves, chunky knits, bigscarves and new boots.
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The idea there is apredominantly male tendency to
mock, the predominantly femaleenthusiasm for the arrival of
spiced orange beverages thistime of year.
The idea that if teenage girlsenjoy something, it is
immediately mocked, criticizedand made out to be ridiculous.
And it's true.
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Teenage girls are mockedincessantly for their interests.
When women and teenagers beginto take an interest in something
, it's instantly stripped ofserious meaning and categorized
as futile.
And, for example, astrology wasdeveloped by the Babylonians
around 2400 years ago.
The article goes on to say ithas increased in popularity,
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particularly among millennialwomen.
However, its feminization hasled inevitably to its mockery.
The author wondered if it wouldbe the same story if the main
PSL-loving demographic were men.
The article concluded with asobering realization, which is
this if we continuously mockteenage girls for their
interests, we risk also endingthe message that their ideas are
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ridiculous too.
I don't disagree.
I can't say that I disagree atall.
I do see this.
We see this in many aspects oflife and, honestly, if you have
a hard time recognizing it, Iwould take a hard look at
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yourself and take some time toself-reflect.
Try to understand where yourpoint of view came from.
Having said all this, I'venever hated the PSL, but, as I
said before, b was absolutelyspeaking my language.
I've always strived to bedifferent and to not be a
follower.
It's just that when it comesaround, yeah, I'm ordering
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something pumpkin flavored fromStarbucks, especially because I
love that sugary sweetness in mycoffee every fall.
Yeah, but with me and MsBeatrix on the same page about
the pumpkin wave, I wanted tounderstand what she thought
about the actual taste.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
So my opinions, though.
On the actual taste, I do likeit, not so much of a pumpkin
spice drink person.
I like the baked goods, likepumpkin bread oh my god,
perfection.
Like the one at Starbucks.
Holy shit, warm that thing up,it is just pure heaven in my
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mouth.
Or those pumpkin spice rollswith the cream cheese
deliciousness inside, so good.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
What about pumpkin pie?
I mean, I'm more of a sweetpotato guy myself, but what
about pumpkin pie?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Pumpkin pie.
I'm on the fence about likeI'll do it, I'll commit to it,
but I don't particularly love it.
Oh, and going back to thepumpkin bread at Starbucks, I
will order that any time of theyear because that's how I roll.
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I'm a rebel.
I will order a pumpkin breadslice from Starbucks end the
summer and not give A fuck.
And I will say, when it comesto pumpkin spice, sometimes it
can be like too spicy, like ithas almost too much sharpness to
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it.
I want it to be sweet and Iguess lightly spicy.
That makes sense.
Oh, the other thing that I lovethat comes out during the fall
season is pumpkin spice butter.
I don't know if it's calledpumpkin spice butter, but
anyways, that stuff is so good.
(35:24):
Toast some bread and spreadthat on there, or even on a
sweet potato.
Oh my gosh, so delicious.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Ooh, pumpkin spice butter.
Good Lord, that sounds amazing,you're turning me on.
I mean thanks for turning me on.
I mean thanks for turning me onto.
That Sounds delicious.
I'd like to thank our guestcontributors and, as promised,
(36:22):
here's what they've got going onand where you can find them.
Our friend Smuddy be sure tocheck her out at Smuddy's place
on YouTube.
She's got some great hot andsexy content, especially if
you're into hypnotic content.
She's got some great hot andsexy content, especially if
(36:43):
you're into hypnotic content.
She recently posted somedrone-ification content.
I do love vacation content likebimbo vacation and
dumbification.
This recent video isdrone-ification, or the process
of turning a human into anobedient, mindless drone, a
humanoid automaton.
Smuddy's got some great droidgame and gives great droid for
(37:09):
sure.
Be sure to check out our othervideos of drone-ification, or
the process of turning ahumanoid for sure, be sure to
check that out.
It's an awesome video.
She's also got some greatSmuddy merch in her Etsy shop
called Smuddy Cells.
She's got some really coolstickers T-shirts, hoodies, bags
, you name it and it's got somepretty cool hypnotic designs on
(37:30):
there.
I love it Very colorful, verycool.
You can find her Etsy shop linkon her YouTube page.
So go to Smuddy's place onYouTube SMUTGRRL.
That's SMUTGRRL.
We do love us some Smuddy.
Ugh, I love her voice.
(37:53):
And then our friend Pandita.
You can find her on Reddit atu-forward-slash-naughty-pandita.
That'sN-A-U-G-H-T-Y-P-A-N-D-I-T-A on
Reddit.
She's an audio-making machinewith a catalog of over 100
audios, including some greatcollabs.
(38:14):
Be sure to check her out.
She just recently did afantastic audio collab with Void
Screams Back on a scriptwritten by who has a Throwaway,
where Pandita plays a scientistthat worked on a secret AI
project that's gone awry whenthe AI played by Void Screams
Back discovers porn.
(38:34):
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
This one is a doozy.
It's a cleverly written scriptand played well by both
performers.
It's super funny and it's upnow on GWA comedy, or, as we
like to call it, guac.
That's G-W-A-C.
I can tell you this was a veryentertaining audio.
I loved it.
(38:55):
I love the way it was written.
I love the way Pandita and Voidinteract with each other and
Void did such a great jobvoicing the AI.
It was.
It's wonderful.
So make sure you find Panditaat u-forward slash naughty
(39:15):
pandita on Reddit.
And last but not least, ourgreat friend Beatrix Vale.
Our friend, ms Beatrix is thehost of the Slut Next Door
podcast.
B is a phone sex operator, audioporn creator and overall slut
that talks about kinks, fetishesand taboo topics.
(39:36):
She is joined by other kinkypeople sex workers, sluts and
more each and every week.
That's right, a new episodeeach and every week.
Some of my favorite episodesare number 41, the porno sexual
interview.
That was great, such a goodinterview.
I had never heard the termporno sexual before, but I do
(39:59):
love that.
And number 34 about Gooning.
I learned more about Gooningthan I ever did anywhere else.
I love the way B talks about itin the episode.
She does a great job explainingit.
And then, of course, I lovenumber 26, which is on erotic
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That's my jam In general.
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She's like comfort food to mein the kink community.
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You know what old Jack Burtonsays at a time like this, life
(41:07):
is gourd and then you pie.
So go big or gourd home.
Have a great and kinkyHalloween MUSIC.
Welcome to the Kinky Eater, where adult content
creators talk about food, sex,kink and oralism.
Today it's all about pumpkinspice.
Yes, indeed, it is fall, solet's give them pumpkin to talk
about.
It's another gourd just day andall hollows.
(00:29):
Eve is upon us.
It's been and still is pumpkinspice season, whether you like
it or not.
Oh goodness, how early did itstart this year.
I didn't note it down, but Iwant to say it was like early
September or even maybe end ofAugust that we started seeing
(00:53):
all these pumpkin spice flavorscoming out and Starbucks
starting to roll out thatseasonal stuff.
So I don't know, I could bewrong, but I swear that's what I
did.
Or maybe it's just my mind,because every year for the past
decade it seems as though thepumpkin spice flavors started
(01:14):
occupying the shelves and menussort of everywhere we go just
early and earlier.
Just, it started just comingout earlier and earlier.
And they know, the industryknows that people will buy.
Also, joining me on the podcasttoday, I've got three friends
(01:35):
from the audio community.
These girls are greatperformers Smuddy Pandita and
Miss Beatrix Vale.
You'll hear a bit from them onthe subject matter today and
then I promise you, if you stickto the end, you'll hear a
little bit more about them andwhere you can find them.
Trust me, you're going to wantto.
And guess what?
(01:57):
It's the 20th anniversary ofthe PSL, the Pumpkin Spice Latte
from Starbucks.
Yeah, the first PSL was madeand sold in fall of 2003 at
Starbucks locations inWashington DC and Vancouver.
So you know, you know, it'sthat delicious coffee drink.
(02:18):
It's got the mix of traditionalfall spice flavors like
cinnamon, nutmeg, clove.
It's got some steamed milk inthere, espresso sugar, sometimes
no sugar.
It's topped, usually toppedwith whipped cream and pumpkin
pie spice.
Is there actual pumpkin in it?
(02:43):
I don't think so.
I do believe, though, that whenit was first created, they were
originally mixing in, you know,pumpkin puree or pieces of
pumpkin, I think.
Or yeah had to be pumpkin puree,I think.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Anyway, peter Dukes is credited as one of the
founders of this pumpkin-y burstof stimulation.
Dukes was a former productmanager for Starbucks when his
team founded the PSL in 2003.
Dukes now holds the esteemedposition of director of global
growth and concepts for theSeattle coffee chain.
(03:22):
What I didn't realize is thatStarbucks peppermint mocha was
created and sold prior to thePSL.
Yeah, I mean apparently thatpeppermint mocha, when it came
out for the holidays, waspopular enough or so popular
that their product developmentteam was like, hey, let's led by
(03:45):
Dukes.
It was like, hey, let's go forother holidays.
Let's get them.
We got them already.
Let's pull them in.
Let's create more so we cankeep them.
Yeah, I mean, that's exactlywhat they did.
I actually don't drink thepeppermint mocha.
I don't.
I'm not a big fan of peppermint, for whatever reason.
(04:06):
Candy canes I don't even.
I don't even eat those.
I'm not a big candy eater, yeah.
Well depends, I think.
Certain candies, you know, butalso they, I think.
Starbucks has the new icedapple crisp oat shaken espresso.
I've never had it.
They also have the iced pumpkincream chai tea latte.
(04:28):
So if you like chai tea andwant some pumpkin in there,
they've got that.
It got everything for you.
So many drinks there.
I did read somewhere thatthere's I think 170,000
different drink combinations andI swear I was listening to a
podcast the other day statingthat there were like a billion
plus different combinations.
(04:49):
I don't know if there's thatmany, I mean, you have more of a
chance of winning the lotterythan there are Starbucks drink
combinations according to thatpodcast, and maybe it's, maybe
it's like a million differentcombinations.
I swear I heard billion.
Whatever.
I'm sure it's not true, nor doI care, but that's just mind
blowing.
(05:09):
I feel like they should paythose baristas more.
It's kind of ridiculous.
I mean I can't even imagine thetraining that they have to go
through, the baristas, to beable to know what to do with all
those combinations.
And then there's like a secretmenu, right?
You guys know about that secretmenu.
I don't know anything about it,but so unpopular but also
(05:35):
probably popular opinion.
It's a mixed bag.
But pumpkin season for me haslost its luster.
I'm definitely not as hype as Iused to be for pumpkin season.
My transition from a vanillasweet cream cold brew, which is,
has lately been my drink ofchoice for the past couple of
(05:58):
years in the morning.
My transition from that drinkto a pumpkin spice cold brew or
pumpkin cream cold brew, I thinkit's called, or a PSL if I want
something hot, isn't a big dealanymore.
It's not not a big deal.
I don't necessarily lookforward to the switch like I
(06:18):
used to.
Having said that, as long asit's available, I'm going to
order the pumpkin cream coldbrew over the vanilla sweet
cream cold brew.
Or if I want something hot, I'mgoing to order the PSL over the
classic caramel macchiato.
I do love a caramel macchiato.
Funny enough, I also lovedrinking coffee black Stooshes.
(06:42):
Anyway, I asked a few friendsin the erotic audio community to
(07:22):
weigh in on the spices of fourand with the gourd.
One of them is my friend Smuddy, and here's a quickie about her
relationship to pumpkin spiceMusic.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Earlier this month I walked into the grocery store
and as I was shopping I couldsmell it in the air Pumpkin
spice.
I went down the bread aisle andfound English muffins pumpkin
spice flavor and immediatelygrabbed two.
I was so excited.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Wow, pumpkin spice flavored English muffins.
This is like the Britishinvasion, but with pumpkins.
It's the pumpkin-ish invasion,the pumpkin movement of the
2000s, composed of anything andeverything having pumpkin spice
sprinkled on it, spreadingrapidly across the United States
(08:21):
and beyond.
It can be overwhelming.
I asked Smuddy about what shethought of the resistance.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I'm sorry.
It's.
Fall is coming and this is afeat we have to accept.
Every year.
Pumpkin spice is pumpkin pie,it is cinnamon, it is nutmeg, it
is ginger and cloves, and allof these spices are so good and
anybody who has hate in theirheart for delicious spices, they
(08:57):
just need to chill the fuck out.
Yo, I'm just saying Life is tooshort not to masticate some
delicious pumpkin spice.
I am living for it.
I will die for it.
This is the hill I have climbed.
Fight me.
This is Smut Girl, aka Smuddy.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I wonder if Smuddy likes pumpkin spice.
Oh my God, she loves fall.
There's no doubt in my mind sheloves it.
It's part of her lifestyle.
Life is gourd when it's pumpkinseason.
I love Smuddy's voice.
Another take from the eroticaudio world.
(09:54):
My friend Pandita is a big timebaker.
When I asked Pandita about herrelationship to pumpkin and
pumpkin spice, I was not at allsurprised to hear her take on
the fall delicacy.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Hi, this is Pandita, or on Reddit, naughtypandita.
I am a big fan of pumpkin spice.
However, you will not find meordering a pumpkin spice latte,
but that's only because I'm notreally much of a coffee drinker
at all.
But I love to bake and thereare so many good recipes with
(10:34):
pumpkin that I absolutely love.
I love making pumpkin muffins.
Pumpkin cheesecake is so good.
There's a great recipe forpumpkin gooey butter cakes.
That's just phenomenal.
Also, there's all these dipsthat you can make too, with
cream cheese and marshmallowfluff and, of course, the canned
(10:56):
pumpkin.
And you always have to get justthe pure pumpkin, because the
pumpkin pie filling is justawful.
But there's so many differentthings that you can do and I
love, love, love all thedifferent flavors and especially
all the spices cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, it just all of those
(11:16):
spices go so well with pumpkinand I just I love everything
about fall baking, so I amdefinitely team pumpkin all the
way.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So far.
We've just heard from twolovers of the pumpkin season.
One of the things that amazesme is the buy-in from the
community, which has then, ofcourse, resulted in the buy-in
from retailers across yourguides, greener, it's fully
expected that everywhere you goyou're going to be exposed to
something, something pumpkinygoodness.
(12:00):
So in talking about pumpkinspice, you know, and how
pervasive it is and how it'sjust taken over and everything
is pumpkin, everything you know.
Great for the pumpkin, oh mygosh.
But looking at a lot of thestores, one of my favorite
(12:22):
stores is Trader Joe's andnobody goes all in to me like
Trader Joe's does.
I mean they went all in.
I mean I can't fault TraderJoe's for being so crafty and
concocting like such a largemenu of pumpkin items.
(12:43):
There's an extensive list thatseems to never end.
There's so many items I don'teven count.
I did list it and I'm about toread them off and it's all just
pumpkin stuff.
And you know they've got likeand I didn't even list
(13:04):
everything They've got thebutternut squash items and the
cinnamon items and the applecinnamon items all for the fall,
kind of went through there andscrubbed it for just the pumpkin
stuff.
I mean the list really doesn'tstop.
But hey, let's go through someof it, and I'm pretty sure that
you guys might be pumpkined outalready I mean, halloween's
(13:27):
close, but who knows, some ofyou guys, I love it or just eat
it up.
There's more than 50 items andthat's just pumpkin stuff.
They've got the butternutsquash items and the cinnamon
items and the apple cinnamonitems.
It really doesn't stop,although I think I did add some
of that deliciousness to thislist as well.
(13:48):
I tried to mostly make it thepumpkin stuff Okay.
So I'm going to try to gothrough this list pretty fast.
Since it's such a long list, Imay stop along the way to talk
about some of it, but I promiseyou I will get through it
quickly.
Okay, here we go.
Pumpkin bread mix, pumpkincranberry crisps, pumpkin ice
(14:10):
cream, pumpkin whole the cone,which are actually sugar cone
ice cream cones in pumpkinflavor.
So it's not enough that theyhave pumpkin ice cream, but you
got to have pumpkin sugar cones.
Caramel apple mochi ice cream.
Okay, so that's a fall item.
I had to add it because I lovemochi ice cream.
I would have thought pumpkinmochi ice cream.
(14:31):
Maybe that wasn't the thing,maybe it didn't work in the test
lab, but apparently caramelapple mochi ice cream works.
I think I've got to try it.
Spatched cocked sweet savorychicken.
That is a fall item.
There is no pumpkin in it, butI love spatched cocked chicken.
It's like spatched cocked cock,but that chicken is good.
(14:53):
I think I'm going to try thisone too.
Normally they have it, I think,with some kind of orange flavor
, and I forgot what the theme isthere.
But let's go on.
Nandere pumpkin oat beverage.
Pumpkin bisque, pumpkinbutternut squash bisque, apple
and pumpkin hand pies.
(15:13):
I got to love.
Let me stop there.
I love hand pies.
They are from the south andusually you can get them with
sweet potatoes or something likethat, or yams and just a little
hand pies.
They're really almost likeempanadas but intended to be
like a dessert.
(15:34):
Pumpkin spice coffee.
Many pumpkin ginger scones fallharvest the salsa to go with
your pumpkin tortilla chips.
Pumpkin maple bacon flavoredstuffies.
These are actually dog treats.
Very nice Trader Joe's gettinginto the dog treat business.
I love it.
Pumpkin overnight face mask Okay, hold on, this is beauty Beauty
(15:56):
products here.
Now They've got some pumpkinbeauty products.
I don't do face masks Maybe Ishould, but if you like face
masks you might as well trypumpkin overnight.
One right.
Atominal harvest creamy pastasauce.
Gluten free pumpkin bread andmuffin mix.
Atominal harvest soup.
Harvest blend herbal tea.
You should check to see ifthere's any pumpkin in it.
(16:16):
I'm not sure.
Pumpkin spice Roy Boss tea.
Roy Boss, okay, this is a SouthAfrican tea and Roy Boss means
red bush.
So this tea is naturally noncaffeinated tea and they now
have pumpkin spice flavor.
Roy Boss tea.
Pumpkin cream cheese spread.
(16:39):
Holy cow, I wonder if they havepumpkin bagels, pumpkin
biscotti, to go with yourpumpkin coffee, pumpkin Jojo's.
Jojo's are their Trader Joe'sversion of Oreos, basically
sandwich cookies with the creamin the middle, sandwich cream
cookies, halloween Jojo's.
(17:00):
So not the pumpkin kind, butbasically chocolate flavored
Jojo's but shaped and designedlike a pumpkin Petite pumpkin
spice cookies.
Pumpkin body butter again morebeauty products Vanilla, pumpkin
hand soap and hand lotion.
There we go.
Pumpkin pie, spice seasoning,of course, pumpkin spice cream,
(17:22):
liquor, pumpkin overnight oatsoh, I love this one.
These are TJ's or Trader Joe'spumpkin cereal bars.
This one is called.
This pumpkin walks into a bar,pumpkin cereal bars.
This pumpkin walks into a bar.
That's a great product name.
That's because I love the puns.
(17:45):
Yeah, um, pecan pumpkin oatmeal.
Do you say pecan?
Or pecan?
Pumpkin flavored dog treats.
Another dog treat productPumpkin brioche twist.
That sounds good.
Anything brioche is good to me.
Okay, here's one the O&H BakeryPumpkin Kringle.
(18:05):
Trader Joe's does sell prettymuch all year round the Danish
Kringle, but for fall they madea pumpkin Kringle.
There you go.
Yeah, la Colombe.
Pumpkin spice draft latte in acan.
Pumpkin spiced pumpkin seeds,vanilla, pumpkin scented candles
(18:25):
.
Pumpkin cheesecake.
Chocolate mousse pumpkin.
These are chocolate cakeslayered with a silky mousse,
orange colored shape like apumpkin, so it's not really
pumpkin flavor.
Pumpkin Greek nonfat yogurt.
A gourd tree pumpkin ciderGotta get that cider.
Howling gourd's pumpkin ale.
(18:45):
That sounds delicious.
I'm gonna have to try that.
Pumpkin O's.
This is Trader Joe's wholegrain, gluten-free, vegan cereal
version of Cheerio's pumpkinO's.
Pumpkin waffles.
Mini spicy pumpkin samosas Wow,if you love Indian food and you
love samosas, look what theymade for you Mini spicy pumpkin
(19:07):
samosas.
Amazing Pumpkin butter.
Spiced pumpkin Madeleinecookies.
Pumpkin pancake and waffle mix.
Gluten-free pumpkin pancake mix.
Organic canned pumpkin.
Organic pumpkin spice granolabark.
Pumpkin chocolate chunk Oatmealcookie mix.
Pumpkin bagels Duh, why onearth would you make pumpkin
(19:28):
cream cheese if you didn't makepumpkin bagels, please?
Well done, gluten-free pumpkinspice bagels.
There you go.
There's a gluten-free version.
Pumpkin cheesecake croissants.
Well then, might need to trythat.
Pumpkin sticky toffee cakes.
Okay, that sounds decent.
I need to try that.
Honey roasted pumpkin ravioliAlso has the gluten-free version
(19:52):
.
Pumpkin spiced teeny tinypretzels these are pretzels with
a yogurt flavored coating andcrushed pumpkin spiced pumpkin
seeds on top.
Pumpkin spice batons I dobelieve these are like the
pro-fitter rolls that you couldhave with coffee, let's say in
(20:12):
the morning.
Maybe you have them with someice cream or something or yogurt
.
I'm not sure I usually eat themwith ice cream.
I've had them with coffee.
So yeah, pumpkin spiced batons,pumpkin spiced Jojo's More
pumpkin spice sandwich cookies,except these sandwich cookies
have a yogurt flavored coatingwith sea salt.
(20:35):
Pumpkin blonde brownies andpumpkin gnocchi.
Oh man, I love gnocchi.
I will say that all the gnocchisthat I've tried with any sort
of like sweet potato or anythinglike that is not as good as
when you have it with like aregular potato, which is more
(20:57):
starchy.
I think it holds up a littlebetter.
So let's dive a little deeperinto the pumpkin ravioli,
because I feel like out of allthese, that is what I could eat
right now.
The pumpkin ravioli has sweetpumpkins that have been
slathered with honey, brownsugar and molasses.
It's roasted, pureed andblended with ricotta and
(21:21):
mozzarella cheeses.
The honey roasted filling isthen packed into square all
colored pasta pillows.
Pumpkin ravioli.
That sounds delightful and Ithink I'm going to try some.
Okay that was a lot.
(21:43):
I mean, what a list.
It's both impressive andridiculous.
You could really live your bestpumpkin life shopping in there.
I mean, can?
you imagine all these pumpkinlovers going feral in the TJs.
Oh man, but like back to me,right, I'm still indifferent.
I'm always going to order thePSL or the pumpkin cream cold
(22:07):
brew when it's available, but Idon't feel one way or another
about its arrival or departure.
Yeah, I mean later pumpkin.
Or hey, pumpkin, welcome back,I'm going to have you and then
later, pumpkin, see you nextyear.
Yeah, that's kind of where I'mat.
(22:27):
We're going to take a quickbreak.
Hope you stick around.
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How about one of my favoriterestaurants, the Brazilian
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a sneak preview of the episode where I take my
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juicy meats.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
So I'm curious you know that's like.
It's not unlike your journey oradventure with kink right
Because you just try new things.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Exactly, lour, look at these things don't look so
good.
Right, things look good, orI'll try that, yeah, I'm willing
to.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I don't like it.
I'm never gonna eat it again.
I'm never gonna do it again.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
My experience with tomatoes andonions is very similar to my
idea of degradation.
I mean if there's like smallamounts of it in it and I can't
really tell.
Sure, that's fine.
If it is the primary thing.
That is flavor in it.
(27:22):
Oh my God, I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So like there's no way you could have this caprese
salad because of the tomatoesright there, it's right in my
face, right in your face, andthat's like straight up
degradation.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Yeah, like how pathetic are you.
It doesn't taste good, yeah,exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
All right, welcome back.
Thanks for sticking around.
It just went over that longexhaustive Trader Joe's list,
but hey, we still got one morefriend to talk to.
For another, take my friendBeatrix Vale.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I love.
Bb is the host of the slut nextdoor podcast.
It's one of my favorite kinkypodcasts.
I asked her about what shethought of the whole pumpkin
phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Hi, my name is Beatrix Vale and I'm here to
give my opinions and thoughts onpumpkin and pumpkin spice.
So I'll start with this.
I tend to not want to likethings that other people go
(29:03):
crazy about.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
B, you're speaking my language.
I've always been the type tobuck the crowd.
Be different, be original, be aleader and not a follower has
always been in my MO.
I asked B to give an example.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Really unrelated, but Game of Thrones I have not
watched yet.
I want to watch it, but Ididn't watch it when it came out
because I didn't want to belike everyone else.
That's really silly.
It really is silly, but I can'thelp it.
I don't want to be likeeveryone else.
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The current craze with pumpkinspice kind of annoys me because
it's connected to females, rightthat once October hits pumpkin
spice, everything, candles,drinks, whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Miss Beatrix has a point.
It's not lost on me that thereare some underlying issues with
some opinions about pumpkinspice season, and it's been
identified for a long time.
Back in 2016, a redditor namedEric Jensen posted pumpkin spice
hate season is coming again, sohere's a reminder from a
historian.
What we call pumpkin spice isjust the classic English and
(30:24):
Anglo-American sweet spice mixCinnamon, ginger, cloves, nutmeg
, cardamom and mace.
It's been used in traditionaldesserts, from apple pie to plum
pudding, for centuries.
When did people start having aproblem with it?
Not when women were in thekitchen putting it in their pies
, but when women decided theyliked it in the coffee they
(30:47):
grabbed on the way to school orwork.
So when you see peoplesnickering at the pumpkin spice
products this fall, rememberwhat they're mocking Women
choosing something for their ownpleasure rather than devoting
themselves to pleasing others.
Ah, a very poignant post, is itnot?
(31:09):
In December 2021, an articlefrom the Manch Union stated that
in popular culture, the PSL hasbecome synonymous with the
basic teenage girl who plastersit over her Instagram in an
autumnal aesthetic.
It's derided as basic, alongwith rhapsodizing about crunched
leaves, chunky knits, bigscarves and new boots.
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The idea there is apredominantly male tendency to
mock, the predominantly femaleenthusiasm for the arrival of
spiced orange beverages thistime of year.
The idea that if teenage girlsenjoy something, it is
immediately mocked, criticizedand made out to be ridiculous.
And it's true.
(31:51):
Teenage girls are mockedincessantly for their interests.
When women and teenagers beginto take an interest in something
, it's instantly stripped ofserious meaning and categorized
as futile.
And, for example, astrology wasdeveloped by the Babylonians
around 2400 years ago.
The article goes on to say ithas increased in popularity,
(32:12):
particularly among millennialwomen.
However, its feminization hasled inevitably to its mockery.
The author wondered if it wouldbe the same story if the main
PSL-loving demographic were men.
The article concluded with asobering realization, which is
this if we continuously mockteenage girls for their
interests, we risk also endingthe message that their ideas are
(32:36):
ridiculous too.
I don't disagree.
I can't say that I disagree atall.
I do see this.
We see this in many aspects oflife and, honestly, if you have
a hard time recognizing it, Iwould take a hard look at
(32:57):
yourself and take some time toself-reflect.
Try to understand where yourpoint of view came from.
Having said all this, I'venever hated the PSL, but, as I
said before, b was absolutelyspeaking my language.
I've always strived to bedifferent and to not be a
follower.
It's just that when it comesaround, yeah, I'm ordering
(33:19):
something pumpkin flavored fromStarbucks, especially because I
love that sugary sweetness in mycoffee every fall.
Yeah, but with me and MsBeatrix on the same page about
the pumpkin wave, I wanted tounderstand what she thought
about the actual taste.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
So my opinions, though.
On the actual taste, I do likeit, not so much of a pumpkin
spice drink person.
I like the baked goods, likepumpkin bread oh my god,
perfection.
Like the one at Starbucks.
Holy shit, warm that thing up,it is just pure heaven in my
(34:02):
mouth.
Or those pumpkin spice rollswith the cream cheese
deliciousness inside, so good.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
What about pumpkin pie?
I mean, I'm more of a sweetpotato guy myself, but what
about pumpkin pie?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Pumpkin pie.
I'm on the fence about likeI'll do it, I'll commit to it,
but I don't particularly love it.
Oh, and going back to thepumpkin bread at Starbucks, I
will order that any time of theyear because that's how I roll.
(34:40):
I'm a rebel.
I will order a pumpkin breadslice from Starbucks end the
summer and not give A fuck.
And I will say, when it comesto pumpkin spice, sometimes it
can be like too spicy, like ithas almost too much sharpness to
(35:03):
it.
I want it to be sweet and Iguess lightly spicy.
That makes sense.
Oh, the other thing that I lovethat comes out during the fall
season is pumpkin spice butter.
I don't know if it's calledpumpkin spice butter, but
anyways, that stuff is so good.
(35:24):
Toast some bread and spreadthat on there, or even on a
sweet potato.
Oh my gosh, so delicious.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Ooh, pumpkin spice butter.
Good Lord, that sounds amazing,you're turning me on.
I mean thanks for turning me on.
I mean thanks for turning me onto.
That Sounds delicious.
I'd like to thank our guestcontributors and, as promised,
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here's what they've got going onand where you can find them.
Our friend Smuddy be sure tocheck her out at Smuddy's place
on YouTube.
She's got some great hot andsexy content, especially if
you're into hypnotic content.
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you're into hypnotic content.
She recently posted somedrone-ification content.
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Ugh, I love her voice.
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And then our friend Pandita.
You can find her on Reddit atu-forward-slash-naughty-pandita.
That'sN-A-U-G-H-T-Y-P-A-N-D-I-T-A on
Reddit.
She's an audio-making machinewith a catalog of over 100
audios, including some greatcollabs.
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Be sure to check her out.
She just recently did afantastic audio collab with Void
Screams Back on a scriptwritten by who has a Throwaway,
where Pandita plays a scientistthat worked on a secret AI
project that's gone awry whenthe AI played by Void Screams
Back discovers porn.
(38:34):
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
This one is a doozy.
It's a cleverly written scriptand played well by both
performers.
It's super funny and it's upnow on GWA comedy, or, as we
like to call it, guac.
That's G-W-A-C.
I can tell you this was a veryentertaining audio.
I loved it.
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I love the way it was written.
I love the way Pandita and Voidinteract with each other and
Void did such a great jobvoicing the AI.
It was.
It's wonderful.
So make sure you find Panditaat u-forward slash naughty
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pandita on Reddit.
And last but not least, ourgreat friend Beatrix Vale.
Our friend, ms Beatrix is thehost of the Slut Next Door
podcast.
B is a phone sex operator, audioporn creator and overall slut
that talks about kinks, fetishesand taboo topics.
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She is joined by other kinkypeople sex workers, sluts and
more each and every week.
That's right, a new episodeeach and every week.
Some of my favorite episodesare number 41, the porno sexual
interview.
That was great, such a goodinterview.
I had never heard the termporno sexual before, but I do
(39:59):
love that.
And number 34 about Gooning.
I learned more about Gooningthan I ever did anywhere else.
I love the way B talks about itin the episode.
She does a great job explainingit.
And then, of course, I lovenumber 26, which is on erotic
audio porn.
That's my jam In general.
(40:20):
I love B's take on taboo kinks.
She's like comfort food to mein the kink community.
I love me some B.
You can find the slut next doorpodcast wherever you listen to
your podcasts.
Thanks again to all ourcontributors.
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Thank you for listening to thekinky eater.
Do me a favor and follow us,comment on the podcast and be
sure to recommend it to anyoneyou think may enjoy it.
Every good word helps.
I'm verbal kink.
I appreciate you listening andlisten.
You know what old Jack Burtonsays at a time like this, life
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is gourd and then you pie.
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