November 20, 2024 • 50 mins
This episode of the Lazy Girl Library podcast invites you to laugh along with us as we share personal highs and lows of the week, mull over the emotional richness of gratitude, and embrace the quirks of Thanksgiving traditions. Books have always been at the heart of our conversations, and this episode is no different. We explore how our shared love for reading shapes our relationships, enhances our creativity, and even boosts our communication skills. Our chat will have you reminiscing about your own reading adventures and the connections they’ve sparked. Join us for this festive, bookish conversation that intertwines stories, traditions, and an abundance of gratitude.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Lazy Girl Library, the podcast, where
reading is a pleasure andcaptivating adventures happen
from the comfort of your couch.
I'm your host, darby, and I'mMikayla, and if you've ever
spent more time rearranging yourbookshelf than your priorities,
then you, my friend, are in theright place.
Welcome to episode 13,thanksgiving episode.
(00:34):
We're so excited to be here.
Welcome back.
Before we get started onanything book related, let's do
a little life check-in.
We started this on our lastepisode.
It's our five stars and onestar, so take it away, mikayla.
What has been your week's fivestar and one star?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So my one star this week let's start bad and we'll
end on a good note my one starwas the UCF game, watching UCFF
football especially because youwatched it with my husband he
wasn't that bad.
He wasn't that bad he's a verypassionate very passionate man
(01:15):
when it comes to football, butum no, he actually surprisingly
all of us, I think were justlike.
It was almost like, uh, you'repast the passion and it's just
like sheer disappointment it wasjust like you, josh and him
right yeah, yeah, there was thethree of us just watching it and
it started off great there wereso many lead changes that it
was just like hopeful, no,hopeful yeah by the end it was
(01:38):
literally just silence, like wewere silent.
Justin got up.
He's like all right guys.
See ya, it was like noconversation, just that was it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That was done I like facetimed him like later that
night because I was out of townthis weekend, um, and yeah, he
just looked like there was nolife yep, yep, it was, it was
not.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It was not a fun game to watch.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It was really frustrating it was fun to watch
until the end, like the firsthalf was pretty good yeah the
second half we totally lost it.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't know what happened there.
Um, it was really frustratingbecause we were starting to do
so well after the newquarterback was starting and he,
honestly, didn't play bad.
It was just a lot of justlittle mistakes.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Special teams needs work so much work.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Coaching needs work, yep, but anyway, this is not
dudes on the mall go check outour husband's podcast anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So that was your one star, that was my one star for
the week.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That was just so frustrating.
Yeah, um.
My five star for the week,though.
Um, I've been kind of likestruggling with my adhd here
recently, I don't.
It's just been really hard forme to focus on anything.
I feel like I have so much thatit's like I freeze and I don't
know what to work on and I endup not doing anything, which
then doesn't help anythingeither Because then more stuff
(02:55):
gets piled on and then you'rejust like in such a state of
like I can't move.
Yep, exactly.
So that's been like kind oflike the trend here for me the
past couple of weeks.
But my sister stopped by onsunday, just like popped in
really quick.
She was out running errands andshe's like, hey, I picked you
up something.
She got me a book that's likehow to like handle that and how
to like work through it.
(03:15):
And she's like, because shewent to like the barnes and
noble that just opened by us, um, yeah, gosh, that's so good.
So, um, because she lovesreally close by too, so she was
checking it out and so she'slike I know you were, you were
saying that you were having ahard time.
So I saw this and I thought ofyou.
That's so sweet.
It was really sweet of her, ohmy gosh.
So that was my five star forthe week I love that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Go abby.
She's so thoughtful, that's sosweet what about you derby?
Okay, lots of five starsrecently.
Love it Very grateful for it Afive star.
That hasn't happened yet, butI'm still going to say it we
have Friendsgiving on Friday.
I'm hosting it for the firsttime, so after this podcast
Michaela doesn't know, but I'mgoing to be asking her some
(03:59):
questions because she hosted itin the past I'm trying to
prepare, so that is coming upand I'm really excited about
that.
I found out this past weekendthat I like orange bell peppers
Ooh yeah, so that was really fun.
I like grew up being a reallypicky eater and I'm still like
picky, but I'm trying morethings.
This sounds like so dumb I'm 26.
(04:21):
But so it's so fun when I findsomething that I like.
And so I like red onions andbut I've never had them in a
salad before.
And I went to my older sister'sthis past weekend and she had
made a salad that had onions init and orange bell peppers and
like other stuff, but the likeonions and bell peppers.
I was like, whoa, now I don'tknow about this like can you
(04:44):
give me some?
That doesn't have it.
But there was no way to do.
That was already mixed in and Iwas like, okay, let me just try
it.
And then I really liked it.
So that was just like reallyfun, I was like wow, I came.
There's a new food for me toexperience and try proud of you
for trying new things.
I love the good pepper, redgreen, whatever, yeah, I'll have
to try the other ones now, butI know the orangey one I like.
(05:06):
And then, final five star ofthe week is that I got to spend
the weekend with my family.
Like I said, I was visiting mysister.
We had like a pizza night withthe whole family and then I just
had a really good time with mymom and dad and other sister and
it was just like a good,wholesome weekend so I was
really appreciative of that.
(05:28):
Oh, that's so nice.
Yeah, and then my one star forthe week is, like you catch 22,
but it's just like the busynessyeah and I think we're all
feeling it because of theholiday season and it's so hard
because it's all so much fun,but it's just.
It can just be a lot.
So it's just a one star becauseI'm like sometimes having a
(05:50):
hard time being present in allthe things I'm doing, but I'm so
excited about all the thingsI'm doing, sure.
So, yeah, it's just like acatch-22 that I'm trying to
figure out.
I get that so it's not like acrazy one star, but I'm like
yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
No, it just leaves you kind of like frazzled, yeah
like unsettled for the weekendtoo.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, I guess you know I like walked in the door
and spewed like three differentstories to me.
I was like here's what's goingon.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
No, I always love to listen.
Uh, yeah, I feel like,especially for like, because
around work at by the end of theyear always picks up or gets
crazy trying to finish thingsout before the end of the year
and then, like you said, withholidays and stuff, it just
always gets so crazy around thistime but it is fun.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It is like my favorite time of the year yeah,
but it's like there's so muchgoing on and then it's gonna be
over so fast.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And it's like ah yeah , isn't thanksgiving like your
favorite holiday too?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
so this might be my favorite episode, um, because we
are talking about all thingslike gratitude.
And before we go super deepinto that, just a quick reminder
our book club book for thismonth is Tomorrow and Tomorrow
and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin.
So if you're reading that, keepon reading it.
Mikayla and I have been readingit and we've been testing out
(07:01):
Fable, the app, and you can likeput posts on each chapter that
you read, so it's been so fun tolike read each other's thoughts
throughout the book.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I've been loving it.
I think that we're going tointroduce it for you guys to
come join our Fable Book Clubhere in the new year.
Yes, because this is our lastbook for 2024.
So we won't be doing one forDecember.
We will up back up in Januarybecause it's busy time yeah
exactly, and plus holidays,being present with our families
instead of having to worry aboutthe, you know, finishing the
(07:31):
book, nor the do a podcast on it.
But we will pick back up in thenew year and hopefully you'll
join us on fable, because it hasbeen really fun testing it out.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, we're.
We're doing the testing rightnow, so go ahead and read that
book and you can hear us talkabout that later this month.
But in this episode we have afew books slash reading related
discussion topics lined up tohelp get us in the spirit of
Thanksgiving season, such aslike the value of gratitude and
how books remind us to begrateful, and self-reflection.
(08:00):
So, without further to do,let's get into it, all, it all
right darby.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Why are you grateful for reading as part of your life
?
What has it like brought you?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
my gosh.
I where to begin?
We're getting deep this episode.
Um.
So for a lot of these questionsand for my notes, I it's like I
had two different brains goinginto them, because obviously we
read so much fantasy and so muchfiction, but there's also a
part of me that reads so muchlike self-help books and
(08:31):
religious books.
A lot of like great Christianauthors out there that I read.
So I feel like answering thosequestions there was always like
two yeah.
So I feel like sometimes you'lllisten to some of my answers
and they like don't make sense.
But it's just because it's like.
This is my answer for like thefiction books and my answer for
religious but books as a whole.
(08:53):
It's just fostered so much forme as a person.
I think it's one allowed me tobe a better speaker, because I
think we talked about this a fewepisodes ago.
But when I was a kid I used tolike singing books or like
performing books, and so I thinkthat really helped me with
public speaking.
It's helped me to understandmyself more and that, of course,
(09:14):
goes into well, actually bothfiction and nonfiction books.
I think it's helped me to learnmore about myself.
It's continued my education andmy creativity.
I watched I used to watch theshow Brain Games when I was in
like middle school.
I think, and they had an episodeone time on creativity and they
had this segment where they hadlike two blobs and they asked
(09:40):
adults to come up with 23different like, like, ideas
about like what these blobs are,and they could come up with
maybe five and then they toldkids to do the same thing and
they were like it's a mermaid,it's a dragon, it's a this, it's
that, and it's the same thingas, like you know, cloud
watching like finding shapes,and so we lose so much
creativity as we get older.
(10:01):
But I think books can reallyhelp with that.
Um, and then, on top ofeverything else, it's expanded
my community of friends, um,especially lately in these kind
of recent years, and so that'sbeen so fun, because, I've said
before, but, um, reading bookscan be so intimate and personal,
(10:21):
so it's really, I think, um, itcan be really deep when you let
people into certain books andlike fandoms and I don't know
it's really cool.
Yeah, I love books.
We do, we love books but are yougrateful for reading as being a
part of your life, and what hasit brought you?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
um, a lot of same sentiments, obviously, like I'm
grateful for the escape that itprovides me from, like the real
world, um, and I'm grateful forall the many things that I learn
about myself, about people ingeneral, while reading, both
from fiction and non-fiction um,so that's always something.
I love learning new things I'mconstantly striving to, like you
(11:02):
know, find, even if it's justlike not, it doesn't even have
to be like true knowledge, likefun facts or things like that.
I just love learning.
I love learning stuff.
So it's always fun seeing what Ican like take from a book.
There's always something thatyou can take, even from like the
silly little romances, you know.
But, like, the biggest thingthat I'm grateful for is the
(11:24):
privilege that we have to justbe able to read get a girl
because I feel like readingreally is a privilege that we
forget about, because we havethat freedom here and we were
like able to have the educationto learn to read, whereas, like
a lot of people around the world, especially women, aren't
afforded that same privilege andopportunities.
The fact that we are able tojust not only know how to read
(11:47):
but have the time to sit andleisurely read, I'm like really,
really grateful for that timetoo.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's such a good reminder.
I completely agree.
It's something I don't think wethink about often.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So that's a great one , thanks.
So how do you think sharingbooks and stories can deepen
bonds and friendships orfamilies?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So I think it's kind of similar to like hey, this
song reminded me of you, or hey,I think you'd like this movie.
However, I'm definitely biasedand I think, depending on the
recommendation, it can have likea much deeper meaning or a
deeper bond especially on likethe content, which I know
there's some like really deepsongs and movies out there, but
a book takes up so much moretime and you're really engrossed
(12:29):
in it and in instances like onetime I gave a book to my
younger sister that I had readthat really helped me in a
certain stage of my life and Ithought that she was going
through a similar stage and soit took the time to underline
things that like really helpedme and stuff.
So it's just I think it can bereally personal and just like so
(12:51):
fun.
But I do think it has a similarsentiment of like.
This song reminded me thismovie, or I think you'd really
like this.
It's like the deeper thought ofit.
I totally get that.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
um, no, I totally agree.
It's like sharing stories issuch a vital part of our life,
um, and I think like a lot ofthis can be traced back to like
even just the time with, likecave paintings shout out
spaceship, earth, because Ithink they talk about this like
throughout the first half of theentire ride at epcot.
But, uh, because it not onlylike sharing stories can bring
(13:26):
connection, which is such like avital part of our humanity, is
like connecting with otherhumans, and so I think
storytelling can really helpfoster that.
But it also helps us learn fromlike past mistakes, so like
even when you, like I said, whenyou think back to like the very
beginnings of storytelling.
So it's like cave paintings,it's like where to hunt, how to
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hunt, like what these animalslook like, that are like safe or
not safe, kind of thing.
It's like you're always likelearning from these past stories
.
Or with fables, you know, eventhough they're, like you know,
fictional, fun stories, theystill have morals that you're
teaching young kids, thatthey're learning through like
the fun stories and so it.
And then, by doing that andlike before, when you'd like sit
(14:09):
around a campfire and like tellold stories or tell tales, like
it again is like comes back to,like the human connection and
like bringing people together,which I love that is so good.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm in my feelings today.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, but it's so true, and especially like I'm like a
technology hater, like I thinkI'm going to get a flip phone
next phone.
But like before, technology andall of the sharing that we had
that was so instant and quick.
It was books and it was writtenstories and spoken stories and
the you know, the folklore andthe tables that you're saying.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So it just I think it feels deeper too, because it
just goes back so much fartherthan like the tiktok that they
were sent, like I don't know,but I feel like even those, and
I think that's why, like so manythings, like tiktok, take off
too, and why people love them,because it's just story time it
constantly comes back to justlike sharing different parts,
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whether it's like differentparts of our lives or different,
like creative ideas orsomething it's just sharing in
the part of like these storiesthat helps like connect with
people and like the human andemotional level, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So that's true, I take it back.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It fully relates to technology but technology, paper
, better technology can takeaway from, you're totally right.
But like.
That's why I think like somethings.
Like like, versus.
Like a facebook versus a tiktokeven though facebook was big
for a while, I think that thatkind of takes away from some of
it sometimes versus like theTikTok or like a YouTube where
(15:46):
you're seeing people and peopleare talking to you and telling
you stories.
It's like more in depth aboutit, I guess, kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I love reading LinkedIn stories.
Those are my.
I will be scrolling LinkedInbecause it's like a happy place.
You know, I never scrolledLinkedIn.
Oh my gosh, you have to try it.
It's so fun because it'stypically it's a lot more happy
and everything's like I got thisnew job or it's like this
personal development post andit's like, yes, and I follow
(16:12):
like TED Talks on there.
So of course, I come acrosslike the TED.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Talks.
I love TED Talks.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, so try listening to some stories on
LinkedIn.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I will check it out.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That's so funny.
I had to delete the app off myphone because I was going on it
too much.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So now I only check it on my laptop.
I would have never thoughtLinkedIn would be like such an
addictive social media.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh, I can get sucked into anything.
That's so funny.
That's so funny.
Okay, is there a book thatsomeone shared?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
with you that made you feel particularly connected
to them.
So I love giving books to otherpeople.
I think, just like what youmentioned, like books bond
people, I love finding ones thatwill connect with other people.
That's like my Christmas thingis I, along with like whatever
gift I give people, I try tolike give them a book that I
think that they would reallyenjoy, um, because I think that
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it does help you connect withsomebody on a personal level.
In that regard, for me,receiving books, um, there are
like way too many growing upthat I like could mention like
there's, there's a lot of them,like because my mom used to read
to me, my grandma was reallyinto reading like there's just
like a lot of personal booksthat I've received or that we
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had like a special connectionwith between them.
Yeah, um, that's kind of toohard for me like to pick from
them.
So I'm gonna do the most recentone, which is akatar.
Love it, because that was ahuge book for me that you shared
with me.
So not only did like I findconnection with the characters
(17:55):
in the story.
That was like obviously, justlike so well written.
That's why it's our favorite.
It's popular for a reason it is.
It's popular for a reason.
Sarah J Maas is a brilliantmind, so not only did it like
help me, like connect in thatway and like recognize things
about myself through some of thecharacters and what they're
(18:15):
going through, through some ofthe characters and what they're
going through, but it alsosparked my joy of reading again,
which I'm so, so grateful foryou for.
Thank you for bringing me intothe act, our world, to spark my
love of reading again okay, giveme five minutes while I go cry
in the bathroom no I love that.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
What about you?
Um, okay, so I interpreted thisin like two ways of so like a
book that someone shared with methat made me feel connected to
the person, and then a book thatsomeone shared with me that
made me feel connected to thebook.
So, in regards to like people,again, I feel like growing up,
reading was more of just like asolo kind of personal thing,
(18:52):
like my only connection was withmy middle school librarian and
I was like, okay, what do yougot for me next?
love that um, but in high schoolI've mentioned the selection
series before and that one Ireally felt connected to the
girl who recommended it, becausethat was a time where I was
exploring like certain types ofbooks in the genre that I just I
didn't have a lot of knowledgeof and I just felt like her and
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I were on the same like level oflike liking the same things,
and so after that I was likewhat are you reading next?
What are you reading next, liketell me?
So I felt really connected toher through that, um, and then
also the book kind of morerecently when I was in grad
school.
It's called is it just me?
And this one was a likeChristian self-help book that I
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read with my grad school roomieShelby, and we would each read
like the chapter and we wouldread it together Like I'm
talking like out loud popcornstyle, Like we're sitting on the
couch reading it, and we wouldtalk about each chapter, and so
that was just like a reallyspecial like shared time between
us.
So that one like obviouslyreally bonded me to her um and
(20:01):
that book.
And then I just want to talkabout this book, because someone
didn't share this with me.
Someone shared this author withme, but not this book.
Yeah, but a book that I feltreally connected to the content
was, um, well, of course, throneof Glass, and then also
Everybody Always, which is byBob Goff, and that author was
shared to me, um, by a churchfriend and it was just great, it
(20:25):
was so good, made me feel sohappy yeah, you talk about that
one a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I need to read it.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I really like that one.
It's a good one.
What do you think makes a bookhealing or restorative to read?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
okay.
So again, I don't know what Iwas thinking when I was like
writing up my little notes, butI love this little blurb I wrote
.
I love books that crack openyour walls and breathe life into
your vulnerabilities.
Yeah, that's what is like themost I feel like you're
preaching right now.
That's the most like healing,restorative read for me for
(20:55):
fiction.
What that looks like, or whatI've found that that looks like,
is books that I can see myselfin.
The characters, um, especiallythose are like struggling with
similar things that I am, sothen it's kind of like when they
get resolved, you almost feellike it's resolved in you too,
or it gives you almost like asense of hope that it can be
resolved, and so it kind of likeopens that up.
(21:17):
The perfect example for me waslike nesta and, uh, of course,
silver flames.
Um, I just really connected withher character and a lot of like
the struggles that she goesthrough or like personality type
kind of situations, and so likewatching her grow from that and
like her story, I had like areally deep like connection to
that.
So that was like a restorativeread for me.
(21:39):
Fiction wise, um, or just booksthat make you just like
uncontrollably sob, like Ireally want to talk about the
book that we're going to talkabout next podcast.
But we'll talk about nextpodcast.
I don't think I've gotten thatfar in the book yet, my lips are
sealed.
So, but for non-fiction books,um, I love like books that open
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my eyes to new ways of thinking.
I think that's the most likerestorative read for me.
Um, it's like expanding myunderstanding of how people
think, like how we feel things,um recognizing different life
patterns.
Things like that are just likereally eye-opening and make me
leave the book feeling just likeI don't know, at peace or like
(22:25):
yeah, more understanding.
I'm always, like I said, this isthe knowledge thing for me.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
The more knowledge I have, the more like I feel like
grounded, I guess and it's likeyour heart feels full like your
heart feels full, your brainfeels full, but at the same time
, you feel just at right yeah,yes, those are like my
restorative.
I just like.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I love a good epiphany moment like those.
Like when you're reading,you're just like oh my gosh.
Yes, yeah, those are, those aremine.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's good for me.
Um with fiction, I think, theart of escapism while not
dulling your mind.
Like books allow you to step outof reality.
In such a busy season Like youcan be, I could be in this busy
season, but as soon as I open upthe pages, it's like I'm
somewhere else and likeeverything, literally just like
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the world turns down, which isso cool, and I don't even think
like songs or movies or showscan do that for you, because you
can do other things whilelistening or watching, but you
can't do other things whileyou're reading a book, right,
and so it's like you're likeescaping from reality and it's
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like your brain is, it feels,turned off, but it's not.
It's still stimulating yourbrain.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It's like simplified but completely complex at the
same time yeah, and then formore non-fiction books.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Those can also bring me personally such healing and
comfort and it's nice to hear ofan author's personal story that
maybe you can relate to.
Just another um, another way offeeling like you're not alone,
right or like someoneunderstands me.
That's so, that's so nice, andI think that's what everyone is
striving for is to just likefeel understood and to feel like
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loved and um, so I really likebooks that make you feel that
way it's the human connection.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, um, what books have made you feel like
especially grateful this year?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, well, we wrote the same thing.
Love it Because I see it.
Let's talk about it.
The Nightingale Hands down thisbook, pulled at every single
heartstring.
If you did not listen to thisepisode of us talking about it,
or if you haven't read the book,read the book.
Even if you don't listen to ourpodcast talking about it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Read the book I honestly think this is my top
read for the year yeah, it wasjust.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It was real and raw and powerful.
I was so immersed and engulfedand felt so much empathy for,
like, the real people who livedand died during that time like
if I think about it, I will cryso like it was just so good it,
it was so, so good.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
No, I totally agree.
I felt this book like deep inmy soul.
It's left like a forever impacton me and it just like makes
you feel grateful for not onlylike the freedoms that we have
like in 2024 versus like back inWorld War II, but like also how
far we've come as like anaccepting society as far as,
like I know, we have a lot ofissues that we're still going
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through, but when you can reallylook at it and you compare in
time frames, like we have come afar way and I don't think
people give us enough credit forthat, not to take away from
work that can still be done, butif you take a second to just
look back, like To celebrate thewins Exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Celebrating the wins doesn't diminish the work still
to be done.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Wins Exactly Celebrating the wins doesn't
diminish the work still to bedone?
Yeah, absolutely.
And so it made me feel reallylike grateful for that while I
was reading it, but alsograteful for, like, the women
who were brave enough to not bebystanders during that time,
like no matter how involved youwere.
It was like some level of likefighting the good fight for the
(25:58):
right cause, like some level oflike fighting the good fight for
the right cause, and I can'teven imagine like where we'd be
at if they didn't have thecourage to do that, because they
did have such a huge impactthat they didn't get enough
credit for I feel like in thewar, obviously not to take away
from the actual soldiers thatare on the front lines, but
there's more than just the frontlines in war.
So there's stuff happeningeverywhere, so it's cool to hear
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from that perspective andreading it it was like the
grinch the heart grew like threesides I didn't even know my
heart was small, but then,reading that, I've just felt so
much like fuller and yes, it'slike one of those books that
just like changes you for thebetter after you read.
You can never go back after.
Oh, so good so so good um, soif you would write a thank you
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letter to a character, author,or even like a book itself, what
would it say?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
okay, love this.
It was so hard to pick fromthese, and so I want to thank
probably everyone.
Well, no, not everyone.
I've read some people.
I would say I wish I hadn'tread this, but it was hard to
choose For characters from theThrone of Glass realm, elide and
Irene.
(27:06):
Both of those characters I'dlike to send a thank you letter
to Just such pure hearts and adesire to give and help but,
also persevering through somereally tough times, but both of
them, just like, no matter whattheir history was, it's like
they didn't even let thatthought come.
(27:28):
Like they I'm trying to thinkthe words they didn't even let
the thought of doubt come intotheir mind.
That they couldn't have animpact or help in some way, like
it was just really cool and I'dlike to think that I relate to
them and just like a desire togive, so I just would like thank
them that those would be mycharacters for an author.
(27:49):
I just talked about him, bobGoff.
I feel like he's like anothergrandpa in my life and I feel
he's taught me some reallyvaluable lessons on how to love
like Jesus, so I woulddefinitely write him a letter
and say thank you for the lifeyou've lived and for sharing
about it.
Um, and then for a book.
I don't care if it's mainstreamor popular, it's ACOTAR,
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because without it I wouldn't besitting on this couch talking
to Michaela and talking to allof you guys on this podcast
right now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's so true that one really just like sparked
everything for us.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And we've read some great books since Akatar too.
But you know, we thank ourfoundation for getting us back
into the world of romanticy.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
What about you?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So my first instinct was literally everything Sarah J
Maas no surprise there, uh, butI wanted to challenge myself to
like think outside of that andoutside of her worlds.
Um, because we're alwaystalking about them and I will
forever go to it.
It is.
They're so phenomenal.
Like you said, with actar beingour foundation, there's so many
characters that I trulyconnected with, or just her in
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general, to like for buildingthese worlds.
So, but if I'm gonna, I'm gonnatake myself out of that because
I feel like that's just such aneasy comfort zone.
Yeah, um.
So I would write a letter tothe character clementine from
the book clementine by sarahpennypacker.
Um, she was the first.
It was like it's like achildren's book, think like
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jenny b jones kind of thing, butshe was the first character I
ever truly saw myself in as achild and I think that I like
connected with on a much deeperlevel.
That helped like my readingjourney, like be what it was and
like continue wanting to read.
So I would write my thank youletter to her for doing that.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Okay, wait, that's cute.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Oh, there's so many people to thank, I know right, I
haven't really thought about it.
I mean, there's so many thingsthat you could be, because there
are so many things that likebooks can do to be grateful for
and like stories are authors.
But yeah, I think that's likekind of where I want to say
that's like the start of myreading journey.
It really wasn't, but I thinkthat's the start of my
individualized reading journey,so I'd love to go back and thank
(29:56):
her for that.
Um, so what do you personallyappreciate most about being a
reader?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I think it's that I appreciate the vast worlds and
lives that I get to live as eachcharacter.
Um, because it's just like Ifeel so immersed in a lot of
books that I read and you putyourself in the shoes of who
you're reading.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Because it opens so many worlds to you.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, and a lot of times the perspective of the
book like reads as if, like,you're that person.
And then also nonfiction wisebut kind of fiction as well.
I appreciate the desire forgrowth and further personal
development.
For growth and further personaldevelopment, when you're
(30:45):
reading a book that isn'tnecessarily like for funsies, um
, I feel like sometimes it justlike hits different and it just
makes me feel proud of myself toread those books.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
yeah, yeah those are good what about you?
um, so I appreciate the endlesssupply of knowledge and
creativity that books provide.
Um, it's so endless.
It's absolutely like you canfind anything, whether you want
to learn about something new,you want to escape into a new
world, you want to findconnection, whether it be with,
(31:11):
like a story, or with somebodyelse that you're sharing that
story with, even if, like for me, I use it as a mood reader,
like feeling a certain emotion.
Yes, definitely Like when I'mlike in a sad girl moment and I
want to cry.
Like I use it as a mood reader,like feeling a certain emotion.
Yes, definitely Like, when I'mlike in a sad girl moment and I
want to cry.
Like I try to find those booksthat are just like you know are
going to be like deep andemotional and get that feeling
out, because it almost helps youlike feel your emotions when
(31:34):
your body kind of like won't letyou.
Yeah, like get them out in anew way, or even just like the,
simply be entertained, becauseobviously they are like a form
of entertainment, so satisfying.
Yeah, absolutely, so you canjust find it all in a book, and
I really appreciate that.
About like being a readeritself yeah, that's awesome, so
kind of getting away from books.
(31:54):
But still on the thanksgivingtopic, let's talk about
thanksgiving traditions.
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
okay, so for family definitely watching the
thanksgiving day parade with mylove family, which is gonna be a
little.
This thanksgiving's gonna be alittle different because it's
first time with fralix, sothat'll be fun.
We're going up to georgia, but,um, for my past 26 years it's
been watching the thanksgivingday parade, which I'm excited to
do with my in-laws as well, andthen also getting out the
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Christmas decorations, becausewe are definitely a Christmas
after Thanksgiving.
So getting out the Christmasdecorations and just turning the
house into like winterwonderland, especially as my
parents get older um, I thinkthey rely on me a lot, so it's
when I go down there it's fun,but it's gonna sound not fun
(32:44):
because it's like I have asystem and I'm like it's gonna
get done before I leave.
Like I'm going to transformthis house in 24 hours so my
parents can like enjoy thewinter time, right, and I'm
gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm gonna make it happen.
That's so nice.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I really love those traditions, a personal tradition
that I've kind of started.
So back in in 2020, I startedthis Instagram story series
called Thankful Times with Derbs, because during that time there
was a lot of, obviously,darkness and stuff and I just
thought it would be nice to eachday think about something that
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we're grateful for, and so Iposted all the questions that
I'd asked myself and I made itopen to like my followers.
I'm like an influencer, but Ithink it really did help people,
especially that first year, andjust help people with a
perspective, and so I did thatfor a couple of years.
And this year I'm doingsomething different and it's
(33:37):
called November Notes ofAppreciation.
So every day in the month ofNovember I've been writing a
letter to someone that I'mgrateful for and then I've
mailed it to them.
So that's been really fun.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
So it's kind of like a November tradition of just
always wanting to like give backduring this time or just really
focus on Thanksgiving andgratitude.
And there is so much to bethankful for, like we just said,
the fact that we can read, wecan write, we're sitting on a
(34:10):
couch and cozy blankets, notfearing for our lives.
You know, so I definitely likefeel so sentimental during this
time and love to just share that, and you know we should be
grateful throughout the year,but it's just it's so easy for
me to feel grateful duringNovember absolutely.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, it's something that we really lose sight of,
and I think there's a lot offocus that gets thrown on to, um
, like the food of the holidays,but especially Christmas.
Christmas keeps creeping upcloser and closer and closer.
That Thanksgiving is alwaysforgotten about, but it is
something that we need to bebetter about, like taking the
time to truly be thankful forwhat we do have, because we are
so blessed in this life.
(34:47):
Yeah, so, absolutely, I lovethankful time with derbs what
traditions thanksgivingtraditions are you are your
favorite so we don't have awhole lot of thanksgiving
traditions, but we do alwayswatch macy's thanksgiving day
parade.
That was huge growing up, um,and so we watched that every
year ever since coming tocollege and I haven't been going
(35:08):
home as much for thanksgiving.
Typically I spend it withjosh's family.
Um, I don't get to watch thatwith my family as much anymore,
but what I have started doing mygrandma lives by herself and a
lot of times my aunt and unclewill go up and like bring her
down for thanksgiving, um, butnot to like later, so I will
(35:31):
facetime her in the morning andwe watch the thanksgiving day
parade together, like overfacetime, so as like a way to
just like connect with her beinglike by herself during that
time.
So, uh, yeah, that's been niceand being able to do that, um.
The other big thing that we usedto do is I used to always help
my mom in the kitchen.
It always started small, likewhen I was little, and then it
(35:53):
like worked up and to where likenow, anytime we're together or
it's not now, because I haven'tbeen home for thanksgiving in a
little bit but uh, she wouldlike start teaching me how to do
things more, so that way,whenever, like, I'm the one
that's hosting thanksgiving,like I'll know what to do and
kind of like teaching me theways and like traditions and how
we do stuff, because she doeseverything like homemade from
(36:16):
scratch so, um, that was alwaysfun.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I will be facetiming my mom on friday to help me with
the turkey she let me bring up,like what we use for
Thanksgiving, our turkey tray,and because my sister's going to
come, so we're going to send itback and it's going to be an
adventure.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It's going to be great.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
It's going to be an adventure You're going to do
great.
That's so sweet.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I have a couple of questions that we didn't
actually write about, but thatmy head as we were talking.
What is your favorite and leastfavorite dish for thanksgiving?
Um, the thanksgiving meal is myabsolute favorite meal of the
entire year, so good, I likeforget that I could just make
stuffing whenever I want rightnow, but it doesn't feel right.
I can't have stuffing in mayexactly it's like that and plus
I kind of feel like it's likethat special time where you just
like really look forward to it,that's what makes it special?
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Once a year.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yes, so I just love Thanksgiving meal as a whole.
That's my favorite meal,especially with my mom's cooking
, and I am looking forward togoing back home again, hopefully
next year, for Thanksgivingdinner.
But oh, it's so hard to pick afavorite.
I can tell you my leastfavorite.
I'm not a sweet potato girl.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I know to pick a favorite.
I can tell you my leastfavorite.
I'm not a sweet potato girl, Iknow, but I'm not a big sweet
potato casserole fan, like it'stoo sweet for me, but like, give
me straight up sweet potato,love it it's uh it.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
It's not that I can't eat it like I can, but that's
the thing.
It's just too sweet for me,it's not.
I'm not a fan if it's given tome.
It's one of those who's that ifit's given to me, like, I'll
eat it, but if it's like abuffet style, like I'm not
picking it up, kind of thing, um, but I am the outlier in my
family for that, because therest of my family loves sweet
potatoes, especially my sisterand my dad.
That's like their favoritething in the world.
Um, but yeah, that it's alittle too sweet for me.
(37:56):
Um, but my favorite, oh, it'sall so good, I'd say my mom's
mashed potatoes.
My mom kills the mashed potatogame.
She gets some nice and creamyand like the perfect consistency
where they're not too likerunny but they're not like
chunky.
Yeah, it's like a good kind oflike, you know, with a blizzard
(38:18):
when you like flip it over andit doesn't like come out of the
cup like, oh, my god, that waslike a perfect consistency
that's good.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's good.
Yes, I love those.
What about you?
For me, so I would say, myleast favorite, I don't know if
this hot take, but it wouldprobably be mac and cheese, a
lot of homemade mac and cheesewith like the roux and stuff
that people make too rich.
Yeah, like way too way too richand cheesy and it's like I need
(38:48):
like less cheese, almost likeless is more I totally guess um.
So that was my first instinct.
I will say, though, as a pickyeater, I've never tried like
cranberries, like the I'm gonnabring it for friendsgiving
because that is one I have very.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I have a very specific recipe that my mom
makes.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
It's really easy, but that is one thing that like
I'll just pull out the fridgeand eat straight out of the bowl
, like I love well, my familywas like the canned ones too oh
no, we did like I never tried itbecause obviously I'm like we
just poured it out of a can andit still has the shape, so I
don't know about that yeah, Iwouldn't know about that one
either um, stuffing is probablymy favorite, but you're right,
(39:26):
all the food is just so good andI'm the type of person so I
know people will make likesandwiches after Thanksgiving
with the leftover stuff.
I'm a person day of I'm usingthose biscuits, the croissant,
whatever type of like bread wehave, and I'm making a sandwich
right there on the spot and I'mputting everything on there the
mashed potato that's going onthere as if it was a condiment,
like the mac and cheese, thegreen beans, like turkey.
(39:48):
It's all going to the biscuit.
I love it and my family, like mygrandparents and cousins, used
to make fun of me because theywould be like there's her
sandwich.
Is Darby made her sandwich andI, I do.
I love my sandwiches, mythanksgiving sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
They're so good yeah, no, I love stuffing too.
I'm a big turkey fan.
I know a lot of people aren't.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's my preferred deli meat, me too, turkey I love
turkey I know boar said isgoing through its um like
glyceria crisis right now.
But whenever that's passed,boar's head slow smoke, pit
craft turkey game changer sogood I'm a fan of the mesquite.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
That's kind of like that's always my go-to.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
But I will give that a shot because I just love
turkey what book character thatwe've read this year do you
think would love thanksgivingand hate Thanksgiving?
And I like I think, well, thisisn't this year, but obviously
like the night court, likethey'd have a wonderful
(40:48):
Thanksgiving together.
There would be no animositythere.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
But then, like I don't know, it'd be so
interesting for some of thebooks we've read this year.
Like does Adeline hateThanksgiving?
Like because it makes her thinkof her family and she can't
have it?
Or can she go into so manydifferent places and have
different meat?
Like?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I don't know Right.
Ooh interesting.
Do you have any immediatethoughts?
My immediate thought was lessabout who would hate
Thanksgiving and who I wouldhate to have Thanksgiving with,
and that would be Frankie fromthe World's.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Best man.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Throwback I would hate to have Thanksgiving with
and that would be Frankie fromthe worst misbehave throwback,
but I would not.
Yeah, no, that was just myinitial thought.
Um, who would not likeThanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
I think maybe from the the Firebird trilogy.
I feel like they'd want to likeThanksgiving, but I feel like
they wouldn't because they'dhave some sort of like science
thing they were trying to do orlike.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Maybe, yeah.
I was thinking like Hunt fromCrescent City might not like all
of the like gatherings and likethe pressure of like being with
so many people.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
maybe, yeah that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I don't know, that's harder.
My other thought, too, waspotentially Amarin.
I feel like she's one of thosethat comes for a bit, eats a
little and then just would dipkind of thing.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
But then Cassian from A Court of Thorns would love he
loves Thanksgiving.
He's ready to go play flagfootball in the front.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Love he loves Thanksgiving, he's ready to go
play flag football in the frontyard, favorite holiday right
there.
He loves it, totally agree.
That's a good question.
Do we want to get into Barhowsand Returns?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yes, yes, we do.
All right, darby.
What are we reading Currently?
We are only reading Tomorrowand Tomorrow and Tomorrow.
So, working my way through that, it's not my.
I will save most of my thoughts.
Well, I'll save all my thoughtsfor our next book, but it's
paced differently than a lot ofbooks that I normally read.
So, I like going into it.
(42:52):
New that I wasn't going tobreeze through it.
So I'll just leave it at that.
Then you can listen to the nextepisode for more thoughts when
I finish it.
But I'm reading that right now.
And then I listen to audiobookson Spotify most of the time.
So I was reading Powerful.
I literally have, I think, like45 minutes left and now I can't
, like I ran out of Spotifylistening hours and they want me
(43:14):
to buy those extra hours, butI'll be waiting 12 days before I
finish the book.
But I basically finished thatone.
So I'm reading Powerful, whichis the novella for the Powerless
trilogy by I think it's Lauren.
Oh, what's her last name?
Is it Lauren Roberts?
That's what I want to say.
I think so.
(43:34):
And then for returns, I finishedPart of your World by Abby
Jimenez, and then Legendary by Ithink this one is Stephanie
Garber, and so I'm reallyexcited to finish the third book
in that Carvel series.
And then I found out thatthere's another series that like
(43:54):
has one of the characters thatI like in it.
So I'm excited to read that onetoo.
But both my returns were fourstars Great books, really
enjoyed them, love that.
So yeah, that one too.
But both my returns were fourstars Great books, really
enjoyed them, love that.
So, yeah, that's me.
What are you borrowing andreturning?
Speaker 2 (44:08):
So I am reading Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow.
I am so looking forward totalking about this book.
I have not finished and I'm notgoing to say anything, but I'm
so looking forward to talkingabout this book.
Yay, that was the only book Iwas reading until today.
I did start on audio Tuesdayswith Maury.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I read that in high school.
Oh my gosh, I love Tuesdayswith Maury.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yes, I remember you saying that and it popped up on
my Goodreads a while ago andthen today because I just
finished my other audiobook.
So typically I listen to themon my commutes or like during my
like lunch hour, yeah, um.
So I was trying to think oflike a good, like thanksgiving,
like feel good kind of book, andso then I found that one, so I
decided to start that one nichealbum books are good, like quick
(44:56):
easy reads yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I'm definitely gonna check them out after this,
because I'm like I will say thisthis one's my favorite, but I
haven't read a ton.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I've only read like two or three other ones besides
this one, but this one is thebest one, yeah, so good, I'm
only like 17% the way through it, obviously because I just
started it today, but alreadylike tearing up while reading,
oh yeah, so I know it was likethis was exactly what I was
looking for.
Good, so, um.
(45:24):
So I did start that one, andthen, after I finish her book
club book, I am going to behopping back into the harry
potter world with the sixth book, the half-blood prince, so that
will be coming here soon toonot surprising.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yep, I'm so glad you're loving them.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I am, oh my gosh, so good.
That's all of my return.
Well, actually, no, I haveenough.
I have two, two Harry Pottersin my returns Goblet of Fire and
Order of the Phoenix, both fivestars for me.
Loved them, I loved, I think.
And Goblet of Fire, I justloved the pacing of it and it
like really kept me on my seatBecause, again, even though I
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kind of know what's going on andhow it's going to end and like
the big plot points, I forgetall the details in between.
So it really kept me engaged.
And then, um, order of thephoenix was, ironically, one of
those books that while you'rereading it you feel like so
angry at the characters, butit's still a five star because
you it's like written so well,that's good, you know like what
(46:19):
I'm talking about.
So like, even though it's likenegative emotions while you're
reading it, it's like positivethat you're feeling them,
because it's just like it A islike adding more character depth
to a lot of these characters,yeah, and they're going through
like more complex things.
It's not like so black andwhite kind of, so you kind of
have handled it, or certainthings like that.
(46:40):
So it gets you really worked upand really into the book.
So both five stars.
But then my other return, theaudiobook that I just finished
that I think you would reallyenjoy.
It's called Disney High theUntold Story of the Rise and
Fall of Disney Channel's TweenEmpire.
I absolutely love that.
(47:01):
By Ashley Spencer.
I forgot I was reading thisduring.
By Ashley Spencer.
I forgot I was reading thisduring your last episode so I
forgot to add it to my baristreturns then.
But this was another five starfor me.
Oh my gosh, it was soentertaining, oh good.
Like she, each chapter is overa different like Disney Channel
movie or TV show and it startsaround like steven's time frame,
(47:23):
okay and ends on like camp rock.
So it's like that like I feltlike it was made for me.
It was that perfect sweet spotof when I was watching disney
channel.
And not only does she get intolike the behind the scenes drama
between like hillary duff andlike her co-star and how does
she know these things?
a lot of interviews with people.
Okay, yeah, no, it's like more.
(47:44):
It's very credible because it'seither she's pulling from
previous interviews that thesestars or these people have done
or she held a lot of interviewswith, like producers and um
screenwriters and things likethat from these shows, and so it
was like really interestinglike hearing about like all the
behind the scenes drama fromthese people, but then also the
(48:04):
business side of it, because itnot only goes into like the
details of the show, but likethe business side of disney
channel as a whole and like howit really started and then how
it like grew into like what itis known as today.
So it's really fascinating tohear.
So really really recommend allfive star returns for me.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Loved so good that is so good.
I love that.
That makes me happy.
So that's our borrows, andreturns, and returns.
That's our thanksgiving episode, and I think it would be nice
with just ending by saying I'mgrateful for you, michaela as am
I for you, darby, thank.
I'm grateful to everyone who islistening right now or if
(48:43):
you've ever listened.
I'm grateful for people whowill never listen, because I'm
grateful for everyone.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Just grateful.
All around Tis the season forthankfulness, so we're thankful
for you.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Thanks for extra thankful for you listening today
.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yes, Taking the time to listen to us, and we'll see
you in the next one.
Woohoo, bye.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
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So keep those pages turning,keep those imaginations
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flourishing and remember thebest stories are yet to be
discovered.
Until next time, stay lazy andhappy reading.
Welcome to the Lazy Girl Library, the podcast, where
reading is a pleasure andcaptivating adventures happen
from the comfort of your couch.
I'm your host, darby, and I'mMikayla, and if you've ever
spent more time rearranging yourbookshelf than your priorities,
then you, my friend, are in theright place.
Welcome to episode 13,thanksgiving episode.
(00:34):
We're so excited to be here.
Welcome back.
Before we get started onanything book related, let's do
a little life check-in.
We started this on our lastepisode.
It's our five stars and onestar, so take it away, mikayla.
What has been your week's fivestar and one star?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So my one star this week let's start bad and we'll
end on a good note my one starwas the UCF game, watching UCFF
football especially because youwatched it with my husband he
wasn't that bad.
He wasn't that bad he's a verypassionate very passionate man
(01:15):
when it comes to football, butum no, he actually surprisingly
all of us, I think were justlike.
It was almost like, uh, you'repast the passion and it's just
like sheer disappointment it wasjust like you, josh and him
right yeah, yeah, there was thethree of us just watching it and
it started off great there wereso many lead changes that it
was just like hopeful, no,hopeful yeah by the end it was
(01:38):
literally just silence, like wewere silent.
Justin got up.
He's like all right guys.
See ya, it was like noconversation, just that was it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That was done I like facetimed him like later that
night because I was out of townthis weekend, um, and yeah, he
just looked like there was nolife yep, yep, it was, it was
not.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It was not a fun game to watch.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It was really frustrating it was fun to watch
until the end, like the firsthalf was pretty good yeah the
second half we totally lost it.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't know what happened there.
Um, it was really frustratingbecause we were starting to do
so well after the newquarterback was starting and he,
honestly, didn't play bad.
It was just a lot of justlittle mistakes.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Special teams needs work so much work.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Coaching needs work, yep, but anyway, this is not
dudes on the mall go check outour husband's podcast anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So that was your one star, that was my one star for
the week.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That was just so frustrating.
Yeah, um.
My five star for the week,though.
Um, I've been kind of likestruggling with my adhd here
recently, I don't.
It's just been really hard forme to focus on anything.
I feel like I have so much thatit's like I freeze and I don't
know what to work on and I endup not doing anything, which
then doesn't help anythingeither Because then more stuff
(02:55):
gets piled on and then you'rejust like in such a state of
like I can't move.
Yep, exactly.
So that's been like kind oflike the trend here for me the
past couple of weeks.
But my sister stopped by onsunday, just like popped in
really quick.
She was out running errands andshe's like, hey, I picked you
up something.
She got me a book that's likehow to like handle that and how
to like work through it.
(03:15):
And she's like, because shewent to like the barnes and
noble that just opened by us, um, yeah, gosh, that's so good.
So, um, because she lovesreally close by too, so she was
checking it out and so she'slike I know you were, you were
saying that you were having ahard time.
So I saw this and I thought ofyou.
That's so sweet.
It was really sweet of her, ohmy gosh.
So that was my five star forthe week I love that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Go abby.
She's so thoughtful, that's sosweet what about you derby?
Okay, lots of five starsrecently.
Love it Very grateful for it Afive star.
That hasn't happened yet, butI'm still going to say it we
have Friendsgiving on Friday.
I'm hosting it for the firsttime, so after this podcast
Michaela doesn't know, but I'mgoing to be asking her some
(03:59):
questions because she hosted itin the past I'm trying to
prepare, so that is coming upand I'm really excited about
that.
I found out this past weekendthat I like orange bell peppers
Ooh yeah, so that was really fun.
I like grew up being a reallypicky eater and I'm still like
picky, but I'm trying morethings.
This sounds like so dumb I'm 26.
(04:21):
But so it's so fun when I findsomething that I like.
And so I like red onions andbut I've never had them in a
salad before.
And I went to my older sister'sthis past weekend and she had
made a salad that had onions init and orange bell peppers and
like other stuff, but the likeonions and bell peppers.
I was like, whoa, now I don'tknow about this like can you
(04:44):
give me some?
That doesn't have it.
But there was no way to do.
That was already mixed in and Iwas like, okay, let me just try
it.
And then I really liked it.
So that was just like reallyfun, I was like wow, I came.
There's a new food for me toexperience and try proud of you
for trying new things.
I love the good pepper, redgreen, whatever, yeah, I'll have
to try the other ones now, butI know the orangey one I like.
(05:06):
And then, final five star ofthe week is that I got to spend
the weekend with my family.
Like I said, I was visiting mysister.
We had like a pizza night withthe whole family and then I just
had a really good time with mymom and dad and other sister and
it was just like a good,wholesome weekend so I was
really appreciative of that.
(05:28):
Oh, that's so nice.
Yeah, and then my one star forthe week is, like you catch 22,
but it's just like the busynessyeah and I think we're all
feeling it because of theholiday season and it's so hard
because it's all so much fun,but it's just.
It can just be a lot.
So it's just a one star becauseI'm like sometimes having a
(05:50):
hard time being present in allthe things I'm doing, but I'm so
excited about all the thingsI'm doing, sure.
So, yeah, it's just like acatch-22 that I'm trying to
figure out.
I get that so it's not like acrazy one star, but I'm like
yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
No, it just leaves you kind of like frazzled, yeah
like unsettled for the weekendtoo.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, I guess you know I like walked in the door
and spewed like three differentstories to me.
I was like here's what's goingon.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
No, I always love to listen.
Uh, yeah, I feel like,especially for like, because
around work at by the end of theyear always picks up or gets
crazy trying to finish thingsout before the end of the year
and then, like you said, withholidays and stuff, it just
always gets so crazy around thistime but it is fun.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It is like my favorite time of the year yeah,
but it's like there's so muchgoing on and then it's gonna be
over so fast.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And it's like ah yeah , isn't thanksgiving like your
favorite holiday too?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
so this might be my favorite episode, um, because we
are talking about all thingslike gratitude.
And before we go super deepinto that, just a quick reminder
our book club book for thismonth is Tomorrow and Tomorrow
and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin.
So if you're reading that, keepon reading it.
Mikayla and I have been readingit and we've been testing out
(07:01):
Fable, the app, and you can likeput posts on each chapter that
you read, so it's been so fun tolike read each other's thoughts
throughout the book.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I've been loving it.
I think that we're going tointroduce it for you guys to
come join our Fable Book Clubhere in the new year.
Yes, because this is our lastbook for 2024.
So we won't be doing one forDecember.
We will up back up in Januarybecause it's busy time yeah
exactly, and plus holidays,being present with our families
instead of having to worry aboutthe, you know, finishing the
(07:31):
book, nor the do a podcast on it.
But we will pick back up in thenew year and hopefully you'll
join us on fable, because it hasbeen really fun testing it out.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, we're.
We're doing the testing rightnow, so go ahead and read that
book and you can hear us talkabout that later this month.
But in this episode we have afew books slash reading related
discussion topics lined up tohelp get us in the spirit of
Thanksgiving season, such aslike the value of gratitude and
how books remind us to begrateful, and self-reflection.
(08:00):
So, without further to do,let's get into it, all, it all
right darby.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Why are you grateful for reading as part of your life
?
What has it like brought you?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
my gosh.
I where to begin?
We're getting deep this episode.
Um.
So for a lot of these questionsand for my notes, I it's like I
had two different brains goinginto them, because obviously we
read so much fantasy and so muchfiction, but there's also a
part of me that reads so muchlike self-help books and
(08:31):
religious books.
A lot of like great Christianauthors out there that I read.
So I feel like answering thosequestions there was always like
two yeah.
So I feel like sometimes you'lllisten to some of my answers
and they like don't make sense.
But it's just because it's like.
This is my answer for like thefiction books and my answer for
religious but books as a whole.
(08:53):
It's just fostered so much forme as a person.
I think it's one allowed me tobe a better speaker, because I
think we talked about this a fewepisodes ago.
But when I was a kid I used tolike singing books or like
performing books, and so I thinkthat really helped me with
public speaking.
It's helped me to understandmyself more and that, of course,
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goes into well, actually bothfiction and nonfiction books.
I think it's helped me to learnmore about myself.
It's continued my education andmy creativity.
I watched I used to watch theshow Brain Games when I was in
like middle school.
I think, and they had an episodeone time on creativity and they
had this segment where they hadlike two blobs and they asked
(09:40):
adults to come up with 23different like, like, ideas
about like what these blobs are,and they could come up with
maybe five and then they toldkids to do the same thing and
they were like it's a mermaid,it's a dragon, it's a this, it's
that, and it's the same thingas, like you know, cloud
watching like finding shapes,and so we lose so much
creativity as we get older.
(10:01):
But I think books can reallyhelp with that.
Um, and then, on top ofeverything else, it's expanded
my community of friends, um,especially lately in these kind
of recent years, and so that'sbeen so fun, because, I've said
before, but, um, reading bookscan be so intimate and personal,
(10:21):
so it's really, I think, um, itcan be really deep when you let
people into certain books andlike fandoms and I don't know
it's really cool.
Yeah, I love books.
We do, we love books but are yougrateful for reading as being a
part of your life, and what hasit brought you?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
um, a lot of same sentiments, obviously, like I'm
grateful for the escape that itprovides me from, like the real
world, um, and I'm grateful forall the many things that I learn
about myself, about people ingeneral, while reading, both
from fiction and non-fiction um,so that's always something.
I love learning new things I'mconstantly striving to, like you
(11:02):
know, find, even if it's justlike not, it doesn't even have
to be like true knowledge, likefun facts or things like that.
I just love learning.
I love learning stuff.
So it's always fun seeing what Ican like take from a book.
There's always something thatyou can take, even from like the
silly little romances, you know.
But, like, the biggest thingthat I'm grateful for is the
(11:24):
privilege that we have to justbe able to read get a girl
because I feel like readingreally is a privilege that we
forget about, because we havethat freedom here and we were
like able to have the educationto learn to read, whereas, like
a lot of people around the world, especially women, aren't
afforded that same privilege andopportunities.
The fact that we are able tojust not only know how to read
(11:47):
but have the time to sit andleisurely read, I'm like really,
really grateful for that timetoo.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's such a good reminder.
I completely agree.
It's something I don't think wethink about often.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So that's a great one , thanks.
So how do you think sharingbooks and stories can deepen
bonds and friendships orfamilies?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So I think it's kind of similar to like hey, this
song reminded me of you, or hey,I think you'd like this movie.
However, I'm definitely biasedand I think, depending on the
recommendation, it can have likea much deeper meaning or a
deeper bond especially on likethe content, which I know
there's some like really deepsongs and movies out there, but
a book takes up so much moretime and you're really engrossed
(12:29):
in it and in instances like onetime I gave a book to my
younger sister that I had readthat really helped me in a
certain stage of my life and Ithought that she was going
through a similar stage and soit took the time to underline
things that like really helpedme and stuff.
So it's just I think it can bereally personal and just like so
(12:51):
fun.
But I do think it has a similarsentiment of like.
This song reminded me thismovie, or I think you'd really
like this.
It's like the deeper thought ofit.
I totally get that.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
um, no, I totally agree.
It's like sharing stories issuch a vital part of our life,
um, and I think like a lot ofthis can be traced back to like
even just the time with, likecave paintings shout out
spaceship, earth, because Ithink they talk about this like
throughout the first half of theentire ride at epcot.
But, uh, because it not onlylike sharing stories can bring
(13:26):
connection, which is such like avital part of our humanity, is
like connecting with otherhumans, and so I think
storytelling can really helpfoster that.
But it also helps us learn fromlike past mistakes, so like
even when you, like I said, whenyou think back to like the very
beginnings of storytelling.
So it's like cave paintings,it's like where to hunt, how to
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hunt, like what these animalslook like, that are like safe or
not safe, kind of thing.
It's like you're always likelearning from these past stories
.
Or with fables, you know, eventhough they're, like you know,
fictional, fun stories, theystill have morals that you're
teaching young kids, thatthey're learning through like
the fun stories and so it.
And then, by doing that andlike before, when you'd like sit
(14:09):
around a campfire and like tellold stories or tell tales, like
it again is like comes back to,like the human connection and
like bringing people together,which I love that is so good.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm in my feelings today.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, but it's so true, and especially like I'm like a
technology hater, like I thinkI'm going to get a flip phone
next phone.
But like before, technology andall of the sharing that we had
that was so instant and quick.
It was books and it was writtenstories and spoken stories and
the you know, the folklore andthe tables that you're saying.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So it just I think it feels deeper too, because it
just goes back so much fartherthan like the tiktok that they
were sent, like I don't know,but I feel like even those, and
I think that's why, like so manythings, like tiktok, take off
too, and why people love them,because it's just story time it
constantly comes back to justlike sharing different parts,
(15:10):
whether it's like differentparts of our lives or different,
like creative ideas orsomething it's just sharing in
the part of like these storiesthat helps like connect with
people and like the human andemotional level, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So that's true, I take it back.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It fully relates to technology but technology, paper
, better technology can takeaway from, you're totally right.
But like.
That's why I think like somethings.
Like like, versus.
Like a facebook versus a tiktokeven though facebook was big
for a while, I think that thatkind of takes away from some of
it sometimes versus like theTikTok or like a YouTube where
(15:46):
you're seeing people and peopleare talking to you and telling
you stories.
It's like more in depth aboutit, I guess, kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I love reading LinkedIn stories.
Those are my.
I will be scrolling LinkedInbecause it's like a happy place.
You know, I never scrolledLinkedIn.
Oh my gosh, you have to try it.
It's so fun because it'stypically it's a lot more happy
and everything's like I got thisnew job or it's like this
personal development post andit's like, yes, and I follow
(16:12):
like TED Talks on there.
So of course, I come acrosslike the TED.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Talks.
I love TED Talks.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, so try listening to some stories on
LinkedIn.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I will check it out.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That's so funny.
I had to delete the app off myphone because I was going on it
too much.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So now I only check it on my laptop.
I would have never thoughtLinkedIn would be like such an
addictive social media.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh, I can get sucked into anything.
That's so funny.
That's so funny.
Okay, is there a book thatsomeone shared?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
with you that made you feel particularly connected
to them.
So I love giving books to otherpeople.
I think, just like what youmentioned, like books bond
people, I love finding ones thatwill connect with other people.
That's like my Christmas thingis I, along with like whatever
gift I give people, I try tolike give them a book that I
think that they would reallyenjoy, um, because I think that
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it does help you connect withsomebody on a personal level.
In that regard, for me,receiving books, um, there are
like way too many growing upthat I like could mention like
there's, there's a lot of them,like because my mom used to read
to me, my grandma was reallyinto reading like there's just
like a lot of personal booksthat I've received or that we
(17:35):
had like a special connectionwith between them.
Yeah, um, that's kind of toohard for me like to pick from
them.
So I'm gonna do the most recentone, which is akatar.
Love it, because that was ahuge book for me that you shared
with me.
So not only did like I findconnection with the characters
(17:55):
in the story.
That was like obviously, justlike so well written.
That's why it's our favorite.
It's popular for a reason it is.
It's popular for a reason.
Sarah J Maas is a brilliantmind, so not only did it like
help me, like connect in thatway and like recognize things
about myself through some of thecharacters and what they're
(18:15):
going through, through some ofthe characters and what they're
going through, but it alsosparked my joy of reading again,
which I'm so, so grateful foryou for.
Thank you for bringing me intothe act, our world, to spark my
love of reading again okay, giveme five minutes while I go cry
in the bathroom no I love that.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
What about you?
Um, okay, so I interpreted thisin like two ways of so like a
book that someone shared with methat made me feel connected to
the person, and then a book thatsomeone shared with me that
made me feel connected to thebook.
So, in regards to like people,again, I feel like growing up,
reading was more of just like asolo kind of personal thing,
(18:52):
like my only connection was withmy middle school librarian and
I was like, okay, what do yougot for me next?
love that um, but in high schoolI've mentioned the selection
series before and that one Ireally felt connected to the
girl who recommended it, becausethat was a time where I was
exploring like certain types ofbooks in the genre that I just I
didn't have a lot of knowledgeof and I just felt like her and
(19:14):
I were on the same like level oflike liking the same things,
and so after that I was likewhat are you reading next?
What are you reading next, liketell me?
So I felt really connected toher through that, um, and then
also the book kind of morerecently when I was in grad
school.
It's called is it just me?
And this one was a likeChristian self-help book that I
(19:37):
read with my grad school roomieShelby, and we would each read
like the chapter and we wouldread it together Like I'm
talking like out loud popcornstyle, Like we're sitting on the
couch reading it, and we wouldtalk about each chapter, and so
that was just like a reallyspecial like shared time between
us.
So that one like obviouslyreally bonded me to her um and
(20:01):
that book.
And then I just want to talkabout this book, because someone
didn't share this with me.
Someone shared this author withme, but not this book.
Yeah, but a book that I feltreally connected to the content
was, um, well, of course, throneof Glass, and then also
Everybody Always, which is byBob Goff, and that author was
shared to me, um, by a churchfriend and it was just great, it
(20:25):
was so good, made me feel sohappy yeah, you talk about that
one a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I need to read it.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I really like that one.
It's a good one.
What do you think makes a bookhealing or restorative to read?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
okay.
So again, I don't know what Iwas thinking when I was like
writing up my little notes, butI love this little blurb I wrote
.
I love books that crack openyour walls and breathe life into
your vulnerabilities.
Yeah, that's what is like themost I feel like you're
preaching right now.
That's the most like healing,restorative read for me for
(20:55):
fiction.
What that looks like, or whatI've found that that looks like,
is books that I can see myselfin.
The characters, um, especiallythose are like struggling with
similar things that I am, sothen it's kind of like when they
get resolved, you almost feellike it's resolved in you too,
or it gives you almost like asense of hope that it can be
resolved, and so it kind of likeopens that up.
(21:17):
The perfect example for me waslike nesta and, uh, of course,
silver flames.
Um, I just really connected withher character and a lot of like
the struggles that she goesthrough or like personality type
kind of situations, and so likewatching her grow from that and
like her story, I had like areally deep like connection to
that.
So that was like a restorativeread for me.
(21:39):
Fiction wise, um, or just booksthat make you just like
uncontrollably sob, like Ireally want to talk about the
book that we're going to talkabout next podcast.
But we'll talk about nextpodcast.
I don't think I've gotten thatfar in the book yet, my lips are
sealed.
So, but for non-fiction books,um, I love like books that open
(22:02):
my eyes to new ways of thinking.
I think that's the most likerestorative read for me.
Um, it's like expanding myunderstanding of how people
think, like how we feel things,um recognizing different life
patterns.
Things like that are just likereally eye-opening and make me
leave the book feeling just likeI don't know, at peace or like
(22:25):
yeah, more understanding.
I'm always, like I said, this isthe knowledge thing for me.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
The more knowledge I have, the more like I feel like
grounded, I guess and it's likeyour heart feels full like your
heart feels full, your brainfeels full, but at the same time
, you feel just at right yeah,yes, those are like my
restorative.
I just like.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I love a good epiphany moment like those.
Like when you're reading,you're just like oh my gosh.
Yes, yeah, those are, those aremine.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's good for me.
Um with fiction, I think, theart of escapism while not
dulling your mind.
Like books allow you to step outof reality.
In such a busy season Like youcan be, I could be in this busy
season, but as soon as I open upthe pages, it's like I'm
somewhere else and likeeverything, literally just like
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the world turns down, which isso cool, and I don't even think
like songs or movies or showscan do that for you, because you
can do other things whilelistening or watching, but you
can't do other things whileyou're reading a book, right,
and so it's like you're likeescaping from reality and it's
(23:32):
like your brain is, it feels,turned off, but it's not.
It's still stimulating yourbrain.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It's like simplified but completely complex at the
same time yeah, and then formore non-fiction books.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Those can also bring me personally such healing and
comfort and it's nice to hear ofan author's personal story that
maybe you can relate to.
Just another um, another way offeeling like you're not alone,
right or like someoneunderstands me.
That's so, that's so nice, andI think that's what everyone is
striving for is to just likefeel understood and to feel like
(24:08):
loved and um, so I really likebooks that make you feel that
way it's the human connection.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, um, what books have made you feel like
especially grateful this year?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, well, we wrote the same thing.
Love it Because I see it.
Let's talk about it.
The Nightingale Hands down thisbook, pulled at every single
heartstring.
If you did not listen to thisepisode of us talking about it,
or if you haven't read the book,read the book.
Even if you don't listen to ourpodcast talking about it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Read the book I honestly think this is my top
read for the year yeah, it wasjust.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It was real and raw and powerful.
I was so immersed and engulfedand felt so much empathy for,
like, the real people who livedand died during that time like
if I think about it, I will cryso like it was just so good it,
it was so, so good.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
No, I totally agree.
I felt this book like deep inmy soul.
It's left like a forever impacton me and it just like makes
you feel grateful for not onlylike the freedoms that we have
like in 2024 versus like back inWorld War II, but like also how
far we've come as like anaccepting society as far as,
like I know, we have a lot ofissues that we're still going
(25:20):
through, but when you can reallylook at it and you compare in
time frames, like we have come afar way and I don't think
people give us enough credit forthat, not to take away from
work that can still be done, butif you take a second to just
look back, like To celebrate thewins Exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Celebrating the wins doesn't diminish the work still
to be done.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Wins Exactly Celebrating the wins doesn't
diminish the work still to bedone?
Yeah, absolutely.
And so it made me feel reallylike grateful for that while I
was reading it, but alsograteful for, like, the women
who were brave enough to not bebystanders during that time,
like no matter how involved youwere.
It was like some level of likefighting the good fight for the
(25:58):
right cause, like some level oflike fighting the good fight for
the right cause, and I can'teven imagine like where we'd be
at if they didn't have thecourage to do that, because they
did have such a huge impactthat they didn't get enough
credit for I feel like in thewar, obviously not to take away
from the actual soldiers thatare on the front lines, but
there's more than just the frontlines in war.
So there's stuff happeningeverywhere, so it's cool to hear
(26:20):
from that perspective andreading it it was like the
grinch the heart grew like threesides I didn't even know my
heart was small, but then,reading that, I've just felt so
much like fuller and yes, it'slike one of those books that
just like changes you for thebetter after you read.
You can never go back after.
Oh, so good so so good um, soif you would write a thank you
(26:40):
letter to a character, author,or even like a book itself, what
would it say?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
okay, love this.
It was so hard to pick fromthese, and so I want to thank
probably everyone.
Well, no, not everyone.
I've read some people.
I would say I wish I hadn'tread this, but it was hard to
choose For characters from theThrone of Glass realm, elide and
Irene.
(27:06):
Both of those characters I'dlike to send a thank you letter
to Just such pure hearts and adesire to give and help but,
also persevering through somereally tough times, but both of
them, just like, no matter whattheir history was, it's like
they didn't even let thatthought come.
(27:28):
Like they I'm trying to thinkthe words they didn't even let
the thought of doubt come intotheir mind.
That they couldn't have animpact or help in some way, like
it was just really cool and I'dlike to think that I relate to
them and just like a desire togive, so I just would like thank
them that those would be mycharacters for an author.
(27:49):
I just talked about him, bobGoff.
I feel like he's like anothergrandpa in my life and I feel
he's taught me some reallyvaluable lessons on how to love
like Jesus, so I woulddefinitely write him a letter
and say thank you for the lifeyou've lived and for sharing
about it.
Um, and then for a book.
I don't care if it's mainstreamor popular, it's ACOTAR,
(28:11):
because without it I wouldn't besitting on this couch talking
to Michaela and talking to allof you guys on this podcast
right now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's so true that one really just like sparked
everything for us.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And we've read some great books since Akatar too.
But you know, we thank ourfoundation for getting us back
into the world of romanticy.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
What about you?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So my first instinct was literally everything Sarah J
Maas no surprise there, uh, butI wanted to challenge myself to
like think outside of that andoutside of her worlds.
Um, because we're alwaystalking about them and I will
forever go to it.
It is.
They're so phenomenal.
Like you said, with actar beingour foundation, there's so many
characters that I trulyconnected with, or just her in
(28:53):
general, to like for buildingthese worlds.
So, but if I'm gonna, I'm gonnatake myself out of that because
I feel like that's just such aneasy comfort zone.
Yeah, um.
So I would write a letter tothe character clementine from
the book clementine by sarahpennypacker.
Um, she was the first.
It was like it's like achildren's book, think like
(29:15):
jenny b jones kind of thing, butshe was the first character I
ever truly saw myself in as achild and I think that I like
connected with on a much deeperlevel.
That helped like my readingjourney, like be what it was and
like continue wanting to read.
So I would write my thank youletter to her for doing that.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Okay, wait, that's cute.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Oh, there's so many people to thank, I know right, I
haven't really thought about it.
I mean, there's so many thingsthat you could be, because there
are so many things that likebooks can do to be grateful for
and like stories are authors.
But yeah, I think that's likekind of where I want to say
that's like the start of myreading journey.
It really wasn't, but I thinkthat's the start of my
individualized reading journey,so I'd love to go back and thank
(29:56):
her for that.
Um, so what do you personallyappreciate most about being a
reader?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I think it's that I appreciate the vast worlds and
lives that I get to live as eachcharacter.
Um, because it's just like Ifeel so immersed in a lot of
books that I read and you putyourself in the shoes of who
you're reading.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Because it opens so many worlds to you.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, and a lot of times the perspective of the
book like reads as if, like,you're that person.
And then also nonfiction wisebut kind of fiction as well.
I appreciate the desire forgrowth and further personal
development.
For growth and further personaldevelopment, when you're
(30:45):
reading a book that isn'tnecessarily like for funsies, um
, I feel like sometimes it justlike hits different and it just
makes me feel proud of myself toread those books.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
yeah, yeah those are good what about you?
um, so I appreciate the endlesssupply of knowledge and
creativity that books provide.
Um, it's so endless.
It's absolutely like you canfind anything, whether you want
to learn about something new,you want to escape into a new
world, you want to findconnection, whether it be with,
(31:11):
like a story, or with somebodyelse that you're sharing that
story with, even if, like for me, I use it as a mood reader,
like feeling a certain emotion.
Yes, definitely Like when I'mlike in a sad girl moment and I
want to cry.
Like I use it as a mood reader,like feeling a certain emotion.
Yes, definitely Like, when I'mlike in a sad girl moment and I
want to cry.
Like I try to find those booksthat are just like you know are
going to be like deep andemotional and get that feeling
out, because it almost helps youlike feel your emotions when
(31:34):
your body kind of like won't letyou.
Yeah, like get them out in anew way, or even just like the,
simply be entertained, becauseobviously they are like a form
of entertainment, so satisfying.
Yeah, absolutely, so you canjust find it all in a book, and
I really appreciate that.
About like being a readeritself yeah, that's awesome, so
kind of getting away from books.
(31:54):
But still on the thanksgivingtopic, let's talk about
thanksgiving traditions.
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
okay, so for family definitely watching the
thanksgiving day parade with mylove family, which is gonna be a
little.
This thanksgiving's gonna be alittle different because it's
first time with fralix, sothat'll be fun.
We're going up to georgia, but,um, for my past 26 years it's
been watching the thanksgivingday parade, which I'm excited to
do with my in-laws as well, andthen also getting out the
(32:23):
Christmas decorations, becausewe are definitely a Christmas
after Thanksgiving.
So getting out the Christmasdecorations and just turning the
house into like winterwonderland, especially as my
parents get older um, I thinkthey rely on me a lot, so it's
when I go down there it's fun,but it's gonna sound not fun
(32:44):
because it's like I have asystem and I'm like it's gonna
get done before I leave.
Like I'm going to transformthis house in 24 hours so my
parents can like enjoy thewinter time, right, and I'm
gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm gonna make it happen.
That's so nice.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I really love those traditions, a personal tradition
that I've kind of started.
So back in in 2020, I startedthis Instagram story series
called Thankful Times with Derbs, because during that time there
was a lot of, obviously,darkness and stuff and I just
thought it would be nice to eachday think about something that
(33:17):
we're grateful for, and so Iposted all the questions that
I'd asked myself and I made itopen to like my followers.
I'm like an influencer, but Ithink it really did help people,
especially that first year, andjust help people with a
perspective, and so I did thatfor a couple of years.
And this year I'm doingsomething different and it's
(33:37):
called November Notes ofAppreciation.
So every day in the month ofNovember I've been writing a
letter to someone that I'mgrateful for and then I've
mailed it to them.
So that's been really fun.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
So it's kind of like a November tradition of just
always wanting to like give backduring this time or just really
focus on Thanksgiving andgratitude.
And there is so much to bethankful for, like we just said,
the fact that we can read, wecan write, we're sitting on a
(34:10):
couch and cozy blankets, notfearing for our lives.
You know, so I definitely likefeel so sentimental during this
time and love to just share that, and you know we should be
grateful throughout the year,but it's just it's so easy for
me to feel grateful duringNovember absolutely.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, it's something that we really lose sight of,
and I think there's a lot offocus that gets thrown on to, um
, like the food of the holidays,but especially Christmas.
Christmas keeps creeping upcloser and closer and closer.
That Thanksgiving is alwaysforgotten about, but it is
something that we need to bebetter about, like taking the
time to truly be thankful forwhat we do have, because we are
so blessed in this life.
(34:47):
Yeah, so, absolutely, I lovethankful time with derbs what
traditions thanksgivingtraditions are you are your
favorite so we don't have awhole lot of thanksgiving
traditions, but we do alwayswatch macy's thanksgiving day
parade.
That was huge growing up, um,and so we watched that every
year ever since coming tocollege and I haven't been going
(35:08):
home as much for thanksgiving.
Typically I spend it withjosh's family.
Um, I don't get to watch thatwith my family as much anymore,
but what I have started doing mygrandma lives by herself and a
lot of times my aunt and unclewill go up and like bring her
down for thanksgiving, um, butnot to like later, so I will
(35:31):
facetime her in the morning andwe watch the thanksgiving day
parade together, like overfacetime, so as like a way to
just like connect with her beinglike by herself during that
time.
So, uh, yeah, that's been niceand being able to do that, um.
The other big thing that we usedto do is I used to always help
my mom in the kitchen.
It always started small, likewhen I was little, and then it
(35:53):
like worked up and to where likenow, anytime we're together or
it's not now, because I haven'tbeen home for thanksgiving in a
little bit but uh, she wouldlike start teaching me how to do
things more, so that way,whenever, like, I'm the one
that's hosting thanksgiving,like I'll know what to do and
kind of like teaching me theways and like traditions and how
we do stuff, because she doeseverything like homemade from
(36:16):
scratch so, um, that was alwaysfun.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I will be facetiming my mom on friday to help me with
the turkey she let me bring up,like what we use for
Thanksgiving, our turkey tray,and because my sister's going to
come, so we're going to send itback and it's going to be an
adventure.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It's going to be great.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
It's going to be an adventure You're going to do
great.
That's so sweet.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I have a couple of questions that we didn't
actually write about, but thatmy head as we were talking.
What is your favorite and leastfavorite dish for thanksgiving?
Um, the thanksgiving meal is myabsolute favorite meal of the
entire year, so good, I likeforget that I could just make
stuffing whenever I want rightnow, but it doesn't feel right.
I can't have stuffing in mayexactly it's like that and plus
I kind of feel like it's likethat special time where you just
like really look forward to it,that's what makes it special?
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Once a year.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yes, so I just love Thanksgiving meal as a whole.
That's my favorite meal,especially with my mom's cooking
, and I am looking forward togoing back home again, hopefully
next year, for Thanksgivingdinner.
But oh, it's so hard to pick afavorite.
I can tell you my leastfavorite.
I'm not a sweet potato girl.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I know to pick a favorite.
I can tell you my leastfavorite.
I'm not a sweet potato girl, Iknow, but I'm not a big sweet
potato casserole fan, like it'stoo sweet for me, but like, give
me straight up sweet potato,love it it's uh it.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
It's not that I can't eat it like I can, but that's
the thing.
It's just too sweet for me,it's not.
I'm not a fan if it's given tome.
It's one of those who's that ifit's given to me, like, I'll
eat it, but if it's like abuffet style, like I'm not
picking it up, kind of thing, um, but I am the outlier in my
family for that, because therest of my family loves sweet
potatoes, especially my sisterand my dad.
That's like their favoritething in the world.
Um, but yeah, that it's alittle too sweet for me.
(37:56):
Um, but my favorite, oh, it'sall so good, I'd say my mom's
mashed potatoes.
My mom kills the mashed potatogame.
She gets some nice and creamyand like the perfect consistency
where they're not too likerunny but they're not like
chunky.
Yeah, it's like a good kind oflike, you know, with a blizzard
(38:18):
when you like flip it over andit doesn't like come out of the
cup like, oh, my god, that waslike a perfect consistency
that's good.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's good.
Yes, I love those.
What about you?
For me, so I would say, myleast favorite, I don't know if
this hot take, but it wouldprobably be mac and cheese, a
lot of homemade mac and cheesewith like the roux and stuff
that people make too rich.
Yeah, like way too way too richand cheesy and it's like I need
(38:48):
like less cheese, almost likeless is more I totally guess um.
So that was my first instinct.
I will say, though, as a pickyeater, I've never tried like
cranberries, like the I'm gonnabring it for friendsgiving
because that is one I have very.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I have a very specific recipe that my mom
makes.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
It's really easy, but that is one thing that like
I'll just pull out the fridgeand eat straight out of the bowl
, like I love well, my familywas like the canned ones too oh
no, we did like I never tried itbecause obviously I'm like we
just poured it out of a can andit still has the shape, so I
don't know about that yeah, Iwouldn't know about that one
either um, stuffing is probablymy favorite, but you're right,
(39:26):
all the food is just so good andI'm the type of person so I
know people will make likesandwiches after Thanksgiving
with the leftover stuff.
I'm a person day of I'm usingthose biscuits, the croissant,
whatever type of like bread wehave, and I'm making a sandwich
right there on the spot and I'mputting everything on there the
mashed potato that's going onthere as if it was a condiment,
like the mac and cheese, thegreen beans, like turkey.
(39:48):
It's all going to the biscuit.
I love it and my family, like mygrandparents and cousins, used
to make fun of me because theywould be like there's her
sandwich.
Is Darby made her sandwich andI, I do.
I love my sandwiches, mythanksgiving sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
They're so good yeah, no, I love stuffing too.
I'm a big turkey fan.
I know a lot of people aren't.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's my preferred deli meat, me too, turkey I love
turkey I know boar said isgoing through its um like
glyceria crisis right now.
But whenever that's passed,boar's head slow smoke, pit
craft turkey game changer sogood I'm a fan of the mesquite.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
That's kind of like that's always my go-to.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
But I will give that a shot because I just love
turkey what book character thatwe've read this year do you
think would love thanksgivingand hate Thanksgiving?
And I like I think, well, thisisn't this year, but obviously
like the night court, likethey'd have a wonderful
(40:48):
Thanksgiving together.
There would be no animositythere.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
But then, like I don't know, it'd be so
interesting for some of thebooks we've read this year.
Like does Adeline hateThanksgiving?
Like because it makes her thinkof her family and she can't
have it?
Or can she go into so manydifferent places and have
different meat?
Like?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I don't know Right.
Ooh interesting.
Do you have any immediatethoughts?
My immediate thought was lessabout who would hate
Thanksgiving and who I wouldhate to have Thanksgiving with,
and that would be Frankie fromthe World's.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Best man.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Throwback I would hate to have Thanksgiving with
and that would be Frankie fromthe worst misbehave throwback,
but I would not.
Yeah, no, that was just myinitial thought.
Um, who would not likeThanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
I think maybe from the the Firebird trilogy.
I feel like they'd want to likeThanksgiving, but I feel like
they wouldn't because they'dhave some sort of like science
thing they were trying to do orlike.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Maybe, yeah.
I was thinking like Hunt fromCrescent City might not like all
of the like gatherings and likethe pressure of like being with
so many people.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
maybe, yeah that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I don't know, that's harder.
My other thought, too, waspotentially Amarin.
I feel like she's one of thosethat comes for a bit, eats a
little and then just would dipkind of thing.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
But then Cassian from A Court of Thorns would love he
loves Thanksgiving.
He's ready to go play flagfootball in the front.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Love he loves Thanksgiving, he's ready to go
play flag football in the frontyard, favorite holiday right
there.
He loves it, totally agree.
That's a good question.
Do we want to get into Barhowsand Returns?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yes, yes, we do.
All right, darby.
What are we reading Currently?
We are only reading Tomorrowand Tomorrow and Tomorrow.
So, working my way through that, it's not my.
I will save most of my thoughts.
Well, I'll save all my thoughtsfor our next book, but it's
paced differently than a lot ofbooks that I normally read.
So, I like going into it.
(42:52):
New that I wasn't going tobreeze through it.
So I'll just leave it at that.
Then you can listen to the nextepisode for more thoughts when
I finish it.
But I'm reading that right now.
And then I listen to audiobookson Spotify most of the time.
So I was reading Powerful.
I literally have, I think, like45 minutes left and now I can't
, like I ran out of Spotifylistening hours and they want me
(43:14):
to buy those extra hours, butI'll be waiting 12 days before I
finish the book.
But I basically finished thatone.
So I'm reading Powerful, whichis the novella for the Powerless
trilogy by I think it's Lauren.
Oh, what's her last name?
Is it Lauren Roberts?
That's what I want to say.
I think so.
(43:34):
And then for returns, I finishedPart of your World by Abby
Jimenez, and then Legendary by Ithink this one is Stephanie
Garber, and so I'm reallyexcited to finish the third book
in that Carvel series.
And then I found out thatthere's another series that like
(43:54):
has one of the characters thatI like in it.
So I'm excited to read that onetoo.
But both my returns were fourstars Great books, really
enjoyed them, love that.
So yeah, that one too.
But both my returns were fourstars Great books, really
enjoyed them, love that.
So, yeah, that's me.
What are you borrowing andreturning?
Speaker 2 (44:08):
So I am reading Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow.
I am so looking forward totalking about this book.
I have not finished and I'm notgoing to say anything, but I'm
so looking forward to talkingabout this book.
Yay, that was the only book Iwas reading until today.
I did start on audio Tuesdayswith Maury.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I read that in high school.
Oh my gosh, I love Tuesdayswith Maury.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yes, I remember you saying that and it popped up on
my Goodreads a while ago andthen today because I just
finished my other audiobook.
So typically I listen to themon my commutes or like during my
like lunch hour, yeah, um.
So I was trying to think oflike a good, like thanksgiving,
like feel good kind of book, andso then I found that one, so I
decided to start that one nichealbum books are good, like quick
(44:56):
easy reads yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I'm definitely gonna check them out after this,
because I'm like I will say thisthis one's my favorite, but I
haven't read a ton.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I've only read like two or three other ones besides
this one, but this one is thebest one, yeah, so good, I'm
only like 17% the way through it, obviously because I just
started it today, but alreadylike tearing up while reading,
oh yeah, so I know it was likethis was exactly what I was
looking for.
Good, so, um.
(45:24):
So I did start that one, andthen, after I finish her book
club book, I am going to behopping back into the harry
potter world with the sixth book, the half-blood prince, so that
will be coming here soon toonot surprising.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yep, I'm so glad you're loving them.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I am, oh my gosh, so good.
That's all of my return.
Well, actually, no, I haveenough.
I have two, two Harry Pottersin my returns Goblet of Fire and
Order of the Phoenix, both fivestars for me.
Loved them, I loved, I think.
And Goblet of Fire, I justloved the pacing of it and it
like really kept me on my seatBecause, again, even though I
(45:57):
kind of know what's going on andhow it's going to end and like
the big plot points, I forgetall the details in between.
So it really kept me engaged.
And then, um, order of thephoenix was, ironically, one of
those books that while you'rereading it you feel like so
angry at the characters, butit's still a five star because
you it's like written so well,that's good, you know like what
(46:19):
I'm talking about.
So like, even though it's likenegative emotions while you're
reading it, it's like positivethat you're feeling them,
because it's just like it A islike adding more character depth
to a lot of these characters,yeah, and they're going through
like more complex things.
It's not like so black andwhite kind of, so you kind of
have handled it, or certainthings like that.
(46:40):
So it gets you really worked upand really into the book.
So both five stars.
But then my other return, theaudiobook that I just finished
that I think you would reallyenjoy.
It's called Disney High theUntold Story of the Rise and
Fall of Disney Channel's TweenEmpire.
I absolutely love that.
(47:01):
By Ashley Spencer.
I forgot I was reading thisduring.
By Ashley Spencer.
I forgot I was reading thisduring your last episode so I
forgot to add it to my baristreturns then.
But this was another five starfor me.
Oh my gosh, it was soentertaining, oh good.
Like she, each chapter is overa different like Disney Channel
movie or TV show and it startsaround like steven's time frame,
(47:23):
okay and ends on like camp rock.
So it's like that like I feltlike it was made for me.
It was that perfect sweet spotof when I was watching disney
channel.
And not only does she get intolike the behind the scenes drama
between like hillary duff andlike her co-star and how does
she know these things?
a lot of interviews with people.
Okay, yeah, no, it's like more.
(47:44):
It's very credible because it'seither she's pulling from
previous interviews that thesestars or these people have done
or she held a lot of interviewswith, like producers and um
screenwriters and things likethat from these shows, and so it
was like really interestinglike hearing about like all the
behind the scenes drama fromthese people, but then also the
(48:04):
business side of it, because itnot only goes into like the
details of the show, but likethe business side of disney
channel as a whole and like howit really started and then how
it like grew into like what itis known as today.
So it's really fascinating tohear.
So really really recommend allfive star returns for me.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Loved so good that is so good.
I love that.
That makes me happy.
So that's our borrows, andreturns, and returns.
That's our thanksgiving episode, and I think it would be nice
with just ending by saying I'mgrateful for you, michaela as am
I for you, darby, thank.
I'm grateful to everyone who islistening right now or if
(48:43):
you've ever listened.
I'm grateful for people whowill never listen, because I'm
grateful for everyone.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Just grateful.
All around Tis the season forthankfulness, so we're thankful
for you.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Thanks for extra thankful for you listening today
.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yes, Taking the time to listen to us, and we'll see
you in the next one.
Woohoo, bye.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Well, dear listeners, we find ourselves at the end of
another episode.
And remember, the Lazy GirlLibrary is not just a podcast,
it's a community.
We absolutely love hearing fromfellow book lovers, so don't
forget to share your thoughtsand your favorite reads with us
on our social media.
You can find us on Instagram atLazy Girl Library.
Make sure to check out ourwebsite, lazygirllibrarycom,
(49:32):
your one-stop shop for allthings Lazy Girl.
Before we go, we want to take amoment to thank all of our
wonderful listeners, whetheryou're listening from your cozy
bed, on your way to work oranywhere in between.
Thank you for making us a partof your day and for being a part
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So keep those pages turning,keep those imaginations
(49:52):
flourishing and remember thebest stories are yet to be
discovered.
Until next time, stay lazy andhappy reading.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
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