March 12, 2025 • 45 mins
The power of women shines bright in this special episode dedicated to celebrating the female voices, characters, and influences that have shaped our lives. As we honor International Women's Day and Women's History Month, Darbi and Mikayla dive deep into the fictional and real women who've left indelible marks on their hearts and minds. Whether you're seeking to celebrate the women who've influenced your own life or discover new female voices to add to your reading list, this heartfelt conversation reminds us all of the profound impact women have across every facet of our culture and personal development.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Lazy Girl Library, the podcast, where
reading is a pleasure andcaptivating adventures happen
from the comfort of your couch.
I'm your host, darby, and I'mMikayla, and if you've ever
spent more time rearranging yourbookshelf than your priorities,
then you, my friend, are in theright place who run the world,
(00:32):
girls hi everyone.
No, beyonce is not with us,that was Mikayla oh, I wish
Beyonce was here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That'd be so cool.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Be really cool.
Thanks for tuning in, guys.
We're so excited to have you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Welcome back to another Lazy Girl Library
episode.
If you couldn't tell from mylittle intro, we are talking
about women.
This episode is dedicated towomen in honor of International
Women's Day that was on March8th and Women's History Month.
So fun, exciting for the girlstoday.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, and guys, boys, if you're joining us, I
hope you learned something.
Join the girlhood.
Yeah Well, let's do a littlecheck-in.
What are our five-star andone-star for the week, month,
day?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So my five-star happened on International
Women's Day.
I had my bridal shower.
Yeah, she did.
She was so pretty.
Thanks, so that was really fun.
My mom and my aunt likeco-hosted together at my aunt's
house and they did like a wholeBridgerton theme.
It was a complete surprise forme and they did like a whole
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bridgerton theme.
It was a complete surprise forme.
So I just showed up and theyhad like tea sets set up from
like my grandma's like chinacollection.
They were gorgeous.
Yes, it was really cool.
Like they see it all pulled outand like had little like lunch
kind of nibble things and somedesserts and cakes and cookies
and just showered with love.
And, on theme for the podcast,everybody gifted me a book or
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book themed gift.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It was so cute.
When I read that on the inviteI was like this is perfect this
is great.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, that was perfect amazing.
I loved it.
So many cool books, different,like cookbooks.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You got this one hosting book or dinner party
book.
I'm obsessed.
I literally like we're in themiddle of taking pictures and I
was like, can I go?
Look at this book?
I was like, just by myself,like combing through all your
things.
They were so good, yeah it wasso cool.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, that was a really cool one.
My sister got me like a like goto like how to massage
correctly like book, which iscool.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
She meant that for Josh.
Let me knowosh you need someoneto test it on.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You get lots of fun reads, so excited to jump into
those, um, but it was overalljust a really great day.
That's awesome, had such a funtime.
It's kind of like this, likethe true start of like
everything, because now we'relike we're getting real close,
like the, the festivities havebegun for this wedding and I
don't know we're gonna cometogether and be great.
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I'm like so excited and sostressed all at the same time,
so we're just running onadrenaline, basically you ride
that roller coaster.
So that was my five star.
My one star kind of related Iordered a dress for the bridal
shower and a dress for therehearsal.
That I thought like months agoI ordered it back in January
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Still has yet to come in.
So, I've been like in contactwith the company.
They're just having like a lotof delays or whatever, which is
really annoying, but didn't comein in time, so that was really
frustrating, despite the factthat I ordered it well in
advance.
So but that was kind of like aon the grander scheme of things,
an easy one star.
It was just kind of like amoment, but still it's a bummer.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We can accept the fact that it's a one star.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, what about you, darby?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, so I'll start with the low and with the high.
So my one star is that mystomach has been hurting the
past couple of days.
But you know what they say hotgirls have tummy issues.
So I guess I'm just gettinghotter this week just blushing
it all out yeah.
So, um, yeah, tummy problems aremy one star, and then my five
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star is probably that my dogturned two on friday.
Happy birthday, bogey.
Happy birthday bogey.
So we got her like a cake andit was, um, like a dog cake and
it had like little bones withlike sprinkles on them that like
made the border and it was pinkand then we literally put
candles in it.
She was so afraid of thecandles, like we tried to put it
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closer to her to sing to herand she like ran away and we
were like we're trying to get acute video.
Um, yeah, it was cute.
Um, she does have like thislittle like dog disease right
now she's okay, but, um, so shecan't be around other dogs
because she's like contagious.
So that was the only bummerabout her birthday.
But we got to take her on likea long trail walk and she loved
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it, so it was a good birthdayfor her good way to celebrate
together.
Yeah, the picture you got of herwith the cake so cute she also
looked sad in those picturesbecause I don't think she knew
that she could eat the cake soit was so funny she looks.
She looks like really sadbecause she's not eating it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But yeah, I think she did you enjoy it after like,
when she like?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
oh yeah, she was like it was so interesting she
didn't really know like how toeat it or how to like tackle it,
and so she was licking it atfirst, like licking everything,
and then she like licked one oflike the milk bones off like the
border, and then she ate that,and then I think somehow she got
like a little bit of like.
There was like this I don'tknow if it was, it looked like
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icing, but I'm sure it wassomething for dogs like, maybe
some type of like frozen, likeyogurt or something.
But she got part of that offand so then she was like eating
just that, and then she got tolike the cake part, um, whatever
that was.
But so it was just interestingthat she was eating it in like
pieces.
Yeah, because even after shelearned that she could bite into
it, she was still likedissecting it almost right.
(06:03):
So I don't know if that's a dogthing or just a bogey thing,
but we thought that was reallyfunny.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
We love a methodical queen, yeah, so particular.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But so that was my five star and one star my life
check-in.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I love happy birthday , bogey.
We love a good celebration yeah, lots of celebrations this.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, before we get into our episode for today, I
just want to say a reminder thatour book for this month is the
Women how Fitting by KristenHanna, so make sure to join us
on Fable to read along with us.
We love Kristen Hanna on thispodcast Obsessed, and I'm ready
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for my heart to be torn out andput through a shredder and then
stomped on.
So that's about right.
Yeah, yep that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That about covers it.
Yeah, um, but yeah, join us onfable at lazy girl library.
But this episode all aboutwomen discussing our favorite
women characters, authors,creators, etc.
And women who inspire us.
So let's go girls, um, allright.
So, starting in the literaryspace, who is your favorite
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female protagonist in a book andwhat makes her stand out?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
okay, we both said the same person because she's
phenomenal she is love alen.
Yes, and it's incredible fromthrone of glass yes, from third
of glass, which is an arguablylike perfect series, um, but
basically I love her because fora lot of female main characters
, I feel like they have like acrutch of like needing to depend
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on someone.
Like they, even if they arelike um, like spunky and like
independent independent, theystill rely on people.
And though Ailyn does rely on alot of people, I think she
doesn't need to depend on anyoneand though she doesn't depend
on anyone, she cares foreveryone.
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She's really selfless, but atthe same time, she knows when to
fill her cup up.
So I just think she's reallyselfless, but at the same time,
she knows when to fill her cupup.
So, I just think she's like verymature, she's so like smart.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
She's always got a plan, true mastermind, yeah,
yeah.
So I know you have notes too,but those are just some of the
things about.
Ailyn, that I love her.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
No, completely agree.
I also really love like herfaults and her flaws that I
think are written so perfectly,because I think that, like, by
showing that and how she's likeknows that she's not perfect in
the slightest and makes allthese mistakes, but it never
stops her from trying and likegiving her all for the people
that she loves, yeah, um, so Ithink that just adds like a
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realness to her.
That's really relatable.
Um, because it's like thetrials that she goes through
kind of thing.
Otherwise it'd be like too easy,she's too perfect.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's kind of like the opposite
spectrum of like.
So she doesn't depend on anyoneand it's almost like the
outside people are like but wewant you to let us in on the
plan, like we want you to knowthat you care for us and we care
for you just as much, which Ithink is sometimes things that I
think just in real life, peopleneed to know absolutely, yeah,
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it's so real, um, and she justembodies everything that I love
and want from like a female maincharacter.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Um, yeah, and her ultimate mastermind, like, oh,
the way her brain works.
I love it.
But I also love too how she cango from like being badass
warrior who to like stillembracing her femininity and
like loving, like pretty dressesand the glitz and the glam and
just like curling up with a goodbook.
Yes, because you don't need tochoose exactly, yeah, you can be
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.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
yeah, oh my gosh, I love that.
Yes, I feel I very much relateto that, because I'm someone who
loves to be girly and stuff,and then I'm someone who loves
to drink a beer.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, and you're so sporty too, you can get out
there and you can get down withthe boys too, Dudes and derbs.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Dudes and derbs I have worn that phrase into like
the ground, but yeah, but youdon't have to be like put in a
box.
I think that's another thing,especially for girls.
It's like you have to fit intolike one category and it's like
you don't.
I told actually my co-workerstoday that I'm like a hobby
hopper.
I love to try different hobbiesbut I'm not like locked in on
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any of them, so I'm mediocre ata lot of things.
I'm just not good at anything,jack of all trades, but anyway,
kind of like Ailyn, like she'sdoing it all, like she's just
trying.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, no, I think she's one of those characters
that's like so well developedthat I feel like every woman can
find something to relate to inher yeah, what do you relate to?
most in her oh, probably theasking for help, honestly, and
that fault because I take somuch on myself for sure you know
it's not that I and it's one ofthose things that I think with
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ayla is like you know that otherpeople are willing to help you
but you don't want to put that,the burden of what you're going
through on somebody else,because it's yours to care, that
you want to like take care of.
You don't want them to gothrough it, but it's like that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
They want to help, I know, but that's why it's like
such an eye-opening, so it'sgreat.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And then having her have a lot of these like faults
and things, um, for you to seeyourself in, that it like helps
you, like realize and like takethose messages back and being
like it's okay to have, likethat's why it's like it takes a
village for everything, and tolike to really utilize that and
like it's okay, yeah.
So yeah, what about you?
What do you think is like?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
the what I said before, like how, oh yeah?
Yeah if you rewind, soengrossed in what you're saying
that I didn't even realize youanswered your own question no,
you're good, you're good.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
um, I do also want to give honorable mentions to
Manon, also from Throne of Glass, and Nesta from A Court of
Thrones and Roses.
She's my girl and I love themboth.
I think they're also reallyamazing women, characters that
again have their faults andtheir flaws, but then also the
way they work through them.
So those are kind of myhonorable mentions.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'll give an honorable mention.
Addy larue is an honorablemention and then basically any
female main character by emily,henry or abby jimenez yes, she
does those girls well or they dothose girls well just love a
good, a good written fmc.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, um, so what is a book written by a
woman that changed yourperspective on something?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Speaking of Addie LaRue, I'm going to go with the
Invisible Life of Addie LaRue byVictoria E Schwab.
We read this as a book talk awhile back, so if you haven't
listened to it, listen to it,because I feel like we had lots
of thoughts and it was a reallyfun discussion.
But I think the like where itchanged my perspective is just
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kind of like on life, you know,there you always feel like
something's missing, or if Icould only change this one thing
, or if I could remove this onething from my life, then it
would be so much better.
But, as you see in the book,when they're just like please
don't let this happen, or likeplease let this happen, just
trying to change their life tomake it better, it essentially
makes it way way worse.
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If your life is already great,like you know, take a look
around and take in, like thethings that you're grateful for
and what does fill your cup upand how you are loved by certain
individuals.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, no, that's so good that actually I saw a
TikTok today of a woman talkingabout a TikTok.
She saw TikTok conceptionExactly.
But basically about this, this80 year old woman whose like
biggest advice was don't winyour life away, and so it's like
so good.
Her, like her whole story, islike um, when I have kids, then
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I'll be happy, when I'm married,then I'll be happy when I have
grandkids, and so, and then shejust that, and now she's 80 and
realized that like it'shappiness isn't like the
destination, it's like thejourney and to try to like, wait
for and like that's when thingsare going to get better, then
you're always going to be movingthat dial forward.
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You're never going to reachthat.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It's so true.
I think a lot of our babyboomer parents are recognizing
that, with, you know, retiringand saying like I'll do it when
I'm retired, and then there aresome things that they can't do
because of their bodies.
You know, so true.
It's just you have to do thingsnow.
It's not guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, that was a great choice.
Thanks, good pick.
Tell me yours, mine is theNightingale by Kristen Hanna.
I almost said the same one areyou guys?
tired of hearing us talk aboutthis one yet well, too bad um,
this book altered my brainchemistry forever in like so
many ways, but specifically forthis question it was really
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interesting reading about likeworld war ii from the
perspective of vianne, or likethe women who stayed home while
the men left to like fight.
It was so inspiring andfascinating and like a story
that you just didn't realizeneeded to be told it's something
that kind of like takenadvantage of, you forget about.
but like these women, um, it'slike a necessary perspective to
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like understand how much theywere fighting the war themselves
at home too, and like what theywere doing to help the war
efforts but having to also stillkeep up like the home and take
care of like these villages thatare being overrun by Nazis, and
like how they're surviving inthis precarious situation as to
like just being women.
So really loved that like newperspective.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
it wasn't even like a new perspective, but just like
bringing awareness to thatperspective yeah, just like a
good reminder, I think something, a perspective that kind of
shifted or changed, or that Iwas just reminded, enlightened
of, um well, how many buzzwordsdid I?
just say they're the same thing,um, was the fact that, like we
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haven't ever been in a positionlike that where there's been a
war that's been knocking on ourdoorstep that has affected like
like us in like a day-to-daybasis, but currently there are
people that being that are beingaffected by wars.
It's just like it was such likean ignorant feeling on my end,
(16:30):
like once like yeah, so yeah, Ijust like makes me want to care
for more of the world Absolutely, because, yeah, no one deserves
to like go through that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, that's such a good point.
As much as it's like world warii, but you're so right, it's
like even happening today andlike we're in such a privileged
spot to like not even bethinking about that and having
to worry about it, whereas, like, women are believing this every
day.
Yeah, so valid wow, great point.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
We will be saying prayers yes, okay, if you could
rewrite a male centered book orstory with a female protagonist,
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which one, would it be, cametoo easy for them and, like I
know, it would not have comethat easy for a girl.
And even there was another,there was a girl character in
there.
That it's definitely the bookis not centered around her, but
like her journey through thebook, which we're only getting
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tidbits of, sounded so much moreinteresting than this in some
ways.
I don't know, um, but I justthink maybe like the female's
perspective or like thatcharacter's perspective of the
girl in the book would havecaptivated me more.
And maybe it is just like abiological thing, like I'm just
not connecting with the man, um,because it wasn't like a bad
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book, but I just like, wantedmore and like like there was
depth but at the same time itjust like wasn't where I wanted
it.
I guess I don't know if that'sjust a me opinion, but that's my
opinion that makes total sense.
Yeah, it's hard to talk about itwithout getting into spoilers,
(18:20):
but I guess the best way that Ican put it is he had to go
through a journey and a trialand it just felt like everything
worked out for him.
Maybe it's kind of like therewasn't as many hurdles, like
like there were, I don't know.
Just like, yeah, it all workedout.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But maybe that's like the difference between like men
and women too is.
It's like we think so muchdeeper on a lot of these things,
so like we want more of thatlike in-depth complexity from
like our characters versus likemen don't necessarily not saying
that all men are like that, butgenerically speaking, don't
necessarily not saying that allmen are like that, but
generically speaking, don't havethat kind of like constantly
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thinking about the complexitiesof other people, their emotions,
things like that to where, likewe would want that.
So maybe that had something todo with it too, maybe, which
would make it interesting as afemale character.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, but tell me about your story.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So I am a big Greek mythology fan, so I would love
to see a retelling of like theIliad and the Odyssey, if the
men were actually women.
I think that would make it sointeresting for two different
reasons.
I would love to see, like thejuxtaposition of like the man in
a female role, because like inhistory, everything is written
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by men about men from the maleperspective and like how women
were perceived is very much fromthe male gaze versus like if it
was the reverse and the femalewould be yeah, but just like the
helplessness damsel in distressor like how things are
perceived that way.
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I would love to see a man put inthe female perspective and I
think it would show just howridiculous some of those like
things are when you're readingit as like putting the man in
there.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, like the flip-flop of it,um, so like part of me wants to
see that and just like to like,kind of like see the
ridiculousness of it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That would be funny to see it in like an extreme
sense.
I will say, though, in amoderate sense I love getting
help from Justin.
Oh, yeah.
I'm okay with being the damsel.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
But I feel like there's like a difference
between like getting help andlike the way that a lot of these
women are written so helplessly, because it's not that you're
helpless, you just like helpyeah, and I think that's like.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I just want to be taken care of exactly exactly,
but you're fully capable.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, and I feel like a lot of these things,
especially like ancient history.
It's like women are fullyincapable and stupid.
It's like how it's written,kind of thing.
So, versus, if you put a man inthat perspective, it would just
be funny to like I feel like ithits harder, like that
stereotype, if that makes senseI agree, um, but then I would
also love to see it as far aslike the difference in
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strategizing during, like thetrojan war.
If it was like kind of likerewritten, obviously because
it'd be more of a story, uh, butlike if women were the ones,
like at war, like how would likethe battle be different?
Or you know, like, um, thedifferent outcomes of the many
obstacles odysseus faced whentrying to get home, like if
versus if he was a woman, like awoman like how would he like,
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or she like attack those thingsdifferently and the outcome
might be different.
I don't know.
Uh, I kind of got like a tasteof this with cersei by madeline
middler, um, because obviouslyshe's a cersei, is a goddess and
part of the odyssey, so youonly get like her story and like
her part of the bigger picture.
Okay, but it was interestingcomparing like that perspective
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to the original.
So I'd love to see it likegender flipped yeah, that's very
interesting that would be mine,long-winded, but I like it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, shifting gears into other forms of media.
What's the most iconicportrayal of a woman in tv or
film that resonated with you?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
um, there are so many , so many, so many good ones, um
, but I'm I went with the firstone that came to my mind because
I reached recently re-watchedthe lord the ring series with
josh, so I'm gonna say it wasaon um, specifically in the
third movie, return of the king.
Um, so essentially like she, forlike people who like kind of
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don't know, just give a very,very high summary she's like a
noblewoman from one of the landsin like the series and she's
essentially told like to stayhome with all the women to like
take care of like the people andlike the place while the men go
off to war.
But she's like no, I want tofight.
So she pretends to dress up asa man and a soldier and go and
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fight in this war and then, uh,she like faces, like one of like
the big spirit generals, um,and uh, he essentially uh is
like you know, no man can everlike defeat me.
And then that's when she liketakes off her helmet and reveals
that she's a woman and she'slike I am no man and then kills
the guy.
Oh, it just hits so hard.
But I think what I love aboutit too is kind of like what we
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were talking about with ailyn isthat it shows the complexity.
Like you, throughout the movieyou can tell like she's really
scared and she's really likefrightened and like she and like
she's like did I do the rightthing?
But then she does it anyway.
Yeah, she pushes through thefear, and so it doesn't take
away from the fact that she'sscared, but it adds to, like
that, character growth and thenthe reveal and I am no man, just
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hits hard.
What did?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Josh think of that part.
He loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
No, he loved the whole series.
Yeah, so yeah, that that's mine, though that was just an iconic
one that just, oh, got me going, and women what about you?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
mine's a bit more lighthearted.
It's okay, because that's what.
That's what makes it fun.
um, so I thought of like acouple, but, um, gilmore girls
and new girl.
So so Lorelai and Jessica Day,I feel like they're all just
trying to live their lives inthis world, which is hard, but
they're also not like takinglife too seriously and they know
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when to have fun.
And like, specifically Lorelai,she is a strong, independent
woman raising Rory on her own,but like she's so quippy and she
still has fun with it, but shereally just gets her stuff done
and she doesn't have to be likeemotional about it and she puts
a good emphasis on food becausefood is so important absolutely
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to all women everywhere.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
um, those are such good ones.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, and then Jessica Day I just like relate
to her and like I feel like shejust like wants to, not that she
like wants to fit in and changeherself, but she wants to like
be herself and like be a part ofit, like she wants to be a part
of what the guys are doing andshe wants to, like, show up for
her friends and um, but likeshe's not gonna change, yeah,
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that she's wearing her polkadots or that she might be doing
silly voices, or even if youfind her annoying, well, that's
just her.
So I really I like both of thema lot.
And then an honorable mentionfor the Bring it On franchise.
All the love is so sassy.
I just that's so funny.
As a kid, I loved those movies.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I'm like those were my girls yes, no, I could
totally see that.
I love that, no those are thoseare really good ones.
Thanks, um, but like who wouldbe your ultimate female role
model in pop culture, would yousay?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
this was kind of hard and thinking of like role model
and I'm sure there are otherstoo, but the one that was coming
to my mind was like SadieRobertson good one, um, so she's
got like such a good head onher shoulders and what I really
like value in her, but she hasno like she couldn't plan this.
But we're around the same ageand I just really like align
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with her values and it's neat tosee like what she does and to
like take inspiration from it.
Um, and so, yeah, I just thinkshe's living a good life and
she's just like really sweet anddown to earth and vulnerable
with people.
Um, so I I just yeah, I think Ilike her a lot and I think
she's a a good role model for me.
(26:30):
Um, and then another honorablemention the pink power ranger I
love that.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
What about you?
Um, my forever queen, julieandrews oh yeah, that's a good
one.
Love her.
Princess diaries is like myfavorite movie of all time
growing up still is.
It's my comfort movie, um, andso she just had like a huge
impact on me from like a veryyoung age, not to mention like
mary poppins and the sound ofmusic, although I will say sound
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of music was not my favoritegrowing up, I wasn't like one of
those diehard fans.
Well, it's about war, yeah, um,but there are people that
really love it, like it is aclassic.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I do.
I do like singing the songs.
I will say that maybe I willplay that on my way home today.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I haven't heard them in a while.
Um, but definitely mary poppinsloved, but especially this
movie.
Um, she just is like so regaland the way she holds herself
and she's so graceful.
Um, and like just learning somany fun facts about her as I've
grown up.
She's just somebody that, likeI hold in such high esteem.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
What's your favorite fun fact?
Sorry, putting you on the spot.
It's okay if you can't.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
The song she sings in the Princess Diaries 2 is the
first time that she sang likebeing filmed singing, since she
had her botched like vocal cordsurgery surgery um back in like
1997 that is a fun fact which isso wild because like she
sounded so good.
You would have never guessed shesounded so good, yeah um, and I
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I feel horrible knowing, like Iguess she like I don't know the
full story, so they get to givecontext but I know that she
like had to undergo like vocalcord surgery or something on
those lines, um, obviously backlike in 97 and um it just went
horribly wrong, I guess, and soshe went from having like this
beautiful voice.
I remember reading like I thinkshe sung for queen elizabeth
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when she was 13 like had thisamazing voice and then all of a
sudden she like lost it becauseof I hope she puts out a memoir
one day me too.
If it doesn't already exist, Ishould look it up.
Yeah, um, but yeah, and so thefact that she's been able to
like still have like such anamazing career, and the fact
that she was able to sing, loveit, that's love her.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I do think she is someone who's so elegant like
she reminds me of a queen.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Maybe that's because of her diaries but it's just the
way she holds herself.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, she holds herself so like, highly, but at
the same time, like I feel likeI could walk up to her like it's
not unapproachable like, whichI think is an important trait to
have.
Absolutely yeah, to beapproachable is an important
trait to have yes, shedefinitely out of.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Pop culture has probably had the biggest impact
for the longest period of time.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
For me, yeah, that's good.
Okay, what's a song by a femaleartist that always makes you
feel powerful?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Uh man, I Feel Like a Woman by Shania.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Twain yeah, that one's so good.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Iconic.
It's a classic, been a staplesince I was a little girl.
The music is just like-.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
When you hear that beginning.
It's like let's go girl, yeah,girl.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
The music is just like that beginning.
It's like let's go, girls.
Or even yeah, yeah, yeah, themusic is just like.
It's kind of like it's fun, butalso like kind of powerful and
spunky.
But then the lyrics are justlike the epitome of girlhood,
womanhood.
It's just fun and it oh gets megoing.
I love it.
What about you?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
um, okay, I have three.
Yes, there's so many and Iprobably could list more, but um
, the first one that came tomind was Hayley Williams on
Paramore, or, with Paramore,misery Business that one is so
fun to just like belt out.
Yep, um.
And then Britney Spears.
Piece of Me that one makes mefeel like.
(30:10):
Like that one makes me feelpowerful.
Yeah, you're a big Britney fan,that's all I can say.
Well, I mean she just like.
I once watched this TikTokwhere this girl was saying her
therapist said um, to like danceto your music.
Like dance to music in front oflike a mirror, like conf, like
sexy, confident and like like Ido dance around in my house to
(30:34):
music all the time because I dothink it like helps with
confidence and just making youfeel good and like there's just
something about like the beatsof britney spears songs and just
like feeling like that like popstar, like diva energy, just
for a song that I can, that Ithink just like really does
something to you.
At least for me it does.
(30:55):
And then the final one, whichis kind of like a random one but
holding out for a hero byBonnie Tyler.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Oh my gosh, you're so right that one does get me
going.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh yes, such a good one that one, I feel like I
could ride like a chariot intobattle.
Oh yeah, it always reminds meof the original Footloose,
because that's in the soundtrack.
That's where I know it from,and yeah, just so good.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
That is such a good one that one makes me think of
the fan edit from the Star Warsmovie.
It was like the is it like Iforget the name of it?
Rise of Skywalker, I think,maybe.
Uh, whatever, the last one inthe most recent trilogy?
Uh, with kylo ren running tosave ray they like, added,
edited the song.
(31:43):
Oh, it gives me all the feels.
Love, yeah, great choice.
I think it's also in shrekiconic.
So many things Okay, but who isa real life woman that inspired
you personally?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
This one is also hard and it's like I feel guilty,
just like saying someone like,especially someone like that
like I know personally becauseit really is like all the women
in my life like, and especiallymy mom, which I don't want that
to like be a cop out, like it'sI mean, it's not a cop out, but
I don't want it to feel that waybut of course her because she's
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been like, she has been my rolemodel and like the biggest
woman in my life for so long,woman in my life for so long.
But I do think something that'sinteresting is that for role
models, for me it tends to likeshift as I get older.
So sometimes it's been like arandom girl in my class, like in
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middle school or high school.
I've just really resonated withthem or I've looked up to them
in some way, shape or another.
And then maybe it's been afriend's mom that I've been like
oh, I'm getting a goodperspective like from them.
Or you know, even though yourmom might tell you something,
hearing it from someone elselike, you're like, oh, yeah, so.
Or like, lately, colleagueslike.
There have definitely been somecolleagues in my life that I
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have looked up to as role models, especially those that are just
a couple years older than me,that can feel like my work mom
or like a cheerleader.
I feel like they're teaching meso much, um.
And then to like say a name ofa person, a real person I would
say Taylor Lautner, TaylorLautner's wife yeah, they're
both the same, but I've beenlistening to their podcast, the
(33:27):
Squeeze.
Um, I listen sometimes and shejust feels like very real and
very vulnerable and like likeshe's she cares.
It sounds like she just cares alot and is really interested in
mental health and creating aspace where people um can share
about that.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So that was kind of long-winded, but no those are
really good ones.
Um no, I totally agree withtaylor too, because, too,
because I've listened to acouple of hers and, yeah, she
does have that just authenticfeel of really caring about it
and not just doing it becausemental health is really popular
right now kind of thing.
Yeah, you're so right.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Thanks, what about?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
you?
Yeah, I'm with you.
My real and true answer is thewomen in my family, especially
my mother, is like the women inmy family, especially my mother,
like there's.
Obviously these are the peoplethat you grow up seeing and like
, who like embody being a womanand like who you want to emulate
growing up.
Um, but that just kind of feltlike an easy answer for me.
So I'm kind of thinking outsideof blood relation.
(34:26):
So right now, personally, uh,alona mayor and elise myers are
both very inspiring for me.
Um, both of them areinfluencers.
Alona, uh, she just won thebronze medal yeah, she's not
just an influencer, she's anolympian she won the bronze
medal, uh, in rugby, uh, thispast olympics, um, but I've been
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following her since theprevious Summer Olympics An OG
fan On TikTok yeah, I just thinkI found her because I thought
she was really funny and she wasposting like all the behind the
scenes stuff in the OlympicVillage and it was just like
funny and good content.
But she's really had like areally amazing impact on like
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how I view myself and likeself-confidence, because I feel
like there's a lot of things anda lot of people say the same
thing.
So it's not necessarily thatthe message that she's putting
out there is like new, but it'sjust taking the right person for
it to like sink in.
You know what I mean, andthat's what these two women do
for me.
So it's like theself-confidence and like what
beauty is and how you can belike strong and powerful and
(35:38):
like obviously she's such anamazing athlete, but then she
wears lipstick on the fieldbecause she's also super
feminine and and like embracesthat with her.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, I love similar to how we're talking about elin.
I love that crossover.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, it's so great and seeing it like I've seen um
different people post about liketheir little girls, like really
like resonating with her a lotand like seeing them like start
to realize and like soak in thatmessage too, is just like
really inspiring.
So I'm obsessed with her.
And then also elise, um, I'vebeen following her for a very
(36:10):
long time and she's the firstperson that helped me like kind
of realize what representationmatters like really sink in.
Obviously, like you understandthe concept and like you agree,
and like you and everybodyshould feel like represented and
like the media that they'reconsuming.
But again, it's just like one ofthose that she was the person
that really like let it sink infor me, um, specifically with
(36:32):
just like her neurodivergentstories, um, and it's not even
that she talks about it in a way, um, and like her journey she
kind of does, but it's not eventhat she talks about it in a way
.
And like her journey she kindof does, but it's just more like
the way she tells stories, theway she communicates when she
talks about like her socialanxieties or stress in like such
a funny way.
But it's like, oh my gosh, no,that's exactly how I feel and
(36:55):
that's exactly what I think, andlike you think that you're the
only one, but then seeingsomebody else talk about it,
you're like you think thatyou're the only one, but then
seeing somebody else talk aboutit, you're like, oh my gosh,
that's insane.
Like I really really connectedwith her in like a really good
way.
So, yeah, just like her dailystruggles, triumphs, the way
that she talks about it, it'sjust, yeah, really hits hard.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
They're both awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Those are good.
Those would be mine.
But what is the best piece ofadvice you've ever received from
a woman?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Again, that is so hard it is.
Most of these come from my mom.
One big one is that you don'tneed to worry about what others
think about you, because they'relikely thinking about
themselves.
And so so true thing that hasalways helped me in so many
different circumstances, fromgetting ready for a presentation
(37:42):
and knowing that like no one'sthinking about my presentation,
because they're thinking aboutremembering what to say for
theirs, to just like all facetsof life.
You know, not in like a meanway, but we're all very
self-centered people and thatlike it's our lives.
We all think we're the maincharacter and so you really
(38:04):
don't need to worry about howothers are like perceiving you
in most situations, becausethey're probably thinking about
themselves.
And I think this is so truebecause we'll have girl nights
and like we're all having agreat time, and then afterwards
it's like we all collectivelytext in the group and it's like,
hey, I'm sorry, you thoughtthat, yeah, and it's like I came
(38:27):
off across this way, yeah, andit's like we all are just
thinking about our own likefaults, so you don't need to
worry about like what others arethinking about, because they're
just thinking about themselvesyeah, so true and true.
And then another one which issuper similar, but fake it till
you make it kind of same thing.
It's like not a single personhas done this before, no one has
lived life before, so no oneknows what they're doing.
(38:50):
And even if someone's donesomething before, you're not
wrong for doing something thefirst time, or for making a
mistake or for learning, and sojust like, fake it, you know,
and then if you do make amistake, then it's a learning
opportunity.
It doesn't mean that, likeyou're bad or you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
So.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It's also like.
It's like law of attraction too.
Cause it's like whatever youput out is what you're getting
back.
So even if you're not confident, if you're faking that
confidence, then you're going tolike attract confidence and
like the perks of beingconfident kind of thing too.
Yeah, yeah.
So those are really good ones.
Thank you, um, for me at least.
Again, there's so many women inmy family who have like so much
(39:36):
advice.
But of course, when I'm sittingdown trying to think of
something for the question, yeah, all gone.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Oh my gosh it always happens.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, um, so because I just could not pull something
from my memory in my brain, um,I went with my favorite quote,
which is no one can make youfeel inferior without your
consent amen.
By eleanor roosevelt.
Um, this one I think about sooften, um, especially since I
learned it from my favoritecomfort movie.
(40:03):
This is from princess diaries.
Um, but it's just like you know, like, how we're perceived is
obviously like we talked about,like something that everybody
really struggles with,especially as women.
I feel like we're even moreconscious about, like what
people think of us.
So this has just really becomelike my mantra when I'm feeling
particularly self-conscious oflike nobody can truly make you
(40:25):
feel that way unless you letsomebody make you feel that way
yeah, I love that kind of thesame thing, but worded
differently.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
My mom used to say don't give them power over your
emotions or like why are yougiving them power over your
emotions?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
so it's like the same thing, but in different font
and it's obviously like harderor it's easier said than done
but I think, even justrecognizing like, oh, I'm upset
because I'm letting.
Yeah exactly it's like tryingto like teach yourself and
remember, like let things rolloff your back and like, yeah,
(40:58):
not let people affect youbecause, truly like, you're the
one that's letting them affectyou in that way what will be
will be exactly.
This was so good this was a goodone.
Yeah, I'm excited to talk aboutmore empowering women for our
book later if we'll be able totalk, I'll probably be crying
the whole time.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
True, I'm literally talking about.
The nightingale earlier made metear up.
I don't know if you noticed but, yeah, I was like, okay, pull
it together no, I'm only like.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I think I've read through like six chapters so far
and it's already like really Ihave to go get it, it's not this
.
Well, it is sad, but it's notlike like that hard-hitting,
like emotional sad, but it'sjust intent and so I can only
imagine, like as we go on whenyou're like connected to the
story of the characters, exactlyhow it's gonna hit.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well, speaking of reading and how far along you
are, what are your borrows andreturns?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Not much from me currently for borrows.
It's the Women by Kristen Hanna.
And then I am jumping back inmy book that's been sitting on
my nightstand for a very longtime untouched the adhd for
smart ass women by tracy atsuka.
Um, just again, this is one ofthose you pick up and read every
once in a while, but I haven'ttouched it.
So I'm gonna try to like pickit up and at least read like a
(42:13):
paragraph or two here and thereand try to, you know, get
through it, because I think itdoes have some good like
insights and tips and stuff, um,that I'd like to pull, but I
just have to make the time to doit.
Yeah, um, and then I have noreturns.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I have not been reading and they'll probably be
scarce for me here for the nextcouple months I know, until
after may and after june for youthe the second half of the year
we're really gonna ramp oh yeah, I mean second half of the year
.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I feel like, like we're going to be going in.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Cruising.
So for my returns I have RedRising by Pierce Brown, which I
touched on.
So I would give it like a 3.5stars.
It was a well-written, likesci-fi fantasy book.
It had some really greatelements.
I just personally wasn't ascaptivated or connected to it as
some other or as some otherbooks have made me feel um, but
(43:05):
it wasn't a bad book at all.
So even though I'm reading itlike in the middle, it's just
because I, for me personally,I've read ones that have
connected more um, but I'd stillrecommend people reading it
because it was really.
It was like an interesting,like concept and story.
And then obviously I'm going tobe borrowing the women and
reading that for book club.
(43:26):
And then I'm also doing firsttime caller by bk borson as an
audiobook.
So that's like interesting, alittle light-hearted romance,
yeah.
So I think that'll be fun.
I was listening to it on theway here and, um, I'm enjoying
the voice actors because thatmake or breaks an audiobook for
me.
So that's good, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
New author.
Be curious to hear yourthoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I really like the cover to it.
Well, you wouldn't, becauseit's cartoon people.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
But I just like the colors and yeah, oh fun.
I'll be excited to hear yourthoughts when it becomes a
return and we'll be excited tohear everyone's thoughts when
they join our fable club andparticipate with us, with the
women.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yes, come, come discuss, come talk um, and you
can connect with us there atlazy girl library or on
instagram at lazy girl library.
Leave us a comment atlazygirllibrarycom.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
We just want to talk to you all, yeah, and I'd love
for you all to either comment onthis podcast or DM us on any
women authors that you feelinspired by, or just women in
general, if there's any advicefrom women.
Basically, if you want toanswer any of the questions that
we talked about, I would be socurious and so honored to hear
(44:39):
what you have to say Me too, andhappy Women's History Month
everyone.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Happy Women's History Month, all right, thanks for
joining Bye.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Well, dear listeners, we find ourselves at the end of
another episode.
And remember, the Lazy GirlLibrary is not just a podcast,
it's a community.
We absolutely love hearing fromfellow book lovers, so don't
forget to share your thoughtsand your favorite reads with us
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You can find us on Instagram atLazy Girl Library.
Make sure to check out ourwebsite, lazygirllibrarycom,
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your one-stop shop for allthings Lazy Girl.
Before we go, we want to take amoment to thank all of our
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Thank you for making us a partof your day and for being a part
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So keep those pages turning,keep those imaginations
(45:36):
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Until next time time, stay lazyand happy reading.
Welcome to the Lazy Girl Library, the podcast, where
reading is a pleasure andcaptivating adventures happen
from the comfort of your couch.
I'm your host, darby, and I'mMikayla, and if you've ever
spent more time rearranging yourbookshelf than your priorities,
then you, my friend, are in theright place who run the world,
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girls hi everyone.
No, beyonce is not with us,that was Mikayla oh, I wish
Beyonce was here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That'd be so cool.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Be really cool.
Thanks for tuning in, guys.
We're so excited to have you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Welcome back to another Lazy Girl Library
episode.
If you couldn't tell from mylittle intro, we are talking
about women.
This episode is dedicated towomen in honor of International
Women's Day that was on March8th and Women's History Month.
So fun, exciting for the girlstoday.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, and guys, boys, if you're joining us, I
hope you learned something.
Join the girlhood.
Yeah Well, let's do a littlecheck-in.
What are our five-star andone-star for the week, month,
day?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So my five-star happened on International
Women's Day.
I had my bridal shower.
Yeah, she did.
She was so pretty.
Thanks, so that was really fun.
My mom and my aunt likeco-hosted together at my aunt's
house and they did like a wholeBridgerton theme.
It was a complete surprise forme and they did like a whole
(01:47):
bridgerton theme.
It was a complete surprise forme.
So I just showed up and theyhad like tea sets set up from
like my grandma's like chinacollection.
They were gorgeous.
Yes, it was really cool.
Like they see it all pulled outand like had little like lunch
kind of nibble things and somedesserts and cakes and cookies
and just showered with love.
And, on theme for the podcast,everybody gifted me a book or
(02:08):
book themed gift.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It was so cute.
When I read that on the inviteI was like this is perfect this
is great.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, that was perfect amazing.
I loved it.
So many cool books, different,like cookbooks.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You got this one hosting book or dinner party
book.
I'm obsessed.
I literally like we're in themiddle of taking pictures and I
was like, can I go?
Look at this book?
I was like, just by myself,like combing through all your
things.
They were so good, yeah it wasso cool.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, that was a really cool one.
My sister got me like a like goto like how to massage
correctly like book, which iscool.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
She meant that for Josh.
Let me knowosh you need someoneto test it on.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You get lots of fun reads, so excited to jump into
those, um, but it was overalljust a really great day.
That's awesome, had such a funtime.
It's kind of like this, likethe true start of like
everything, because now we'relike we're getting real close,
like the, the festivities havebegun for this wedding and I
don't know we're gonna cometogether and be great.
(03:03):
I'm like so excited and sostressed all at the same time,
so we're just running onadrenaline, basically you ride
that roller coaster.
So that was my five star.
My one star kind of related Iordered a dress for the bridal
shower and a dress for therehearsal.
That I thought like months agoI ordered it back in January
(03:24):
Still has yet to come in.
So, I've been like in contactwith the company.
They're just having like a lotof delays or whatever, which is
really annoying, but didn't comein in time, so that was really
frustrating, despite the factthat I ordered it well in
advance.
So but that was kind of like aon the grander scheme of things,
an easy one star.
It was just kind of like amoment, but still it's a bummer.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We can accept the fact that it's a one star.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, what about you, darby?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, so I'll start with the low and with the high.
So my one star is that mystomach has been hurting the
past couple of days.
But you know what they say hotgirls have tummy issues.
So I guess I'm just gettinghotter this week just blushing
it all out yeah.
So, um, yeah, tummy problems aremy one star, and then my five
(04:12):
star is probably that my dogturned two on friday.
Happy birthday, bogey.
Happy birthday bogey.
So we got her like a cake andit was, um, like a dog cake and
it had like little bones withlike sprinkles on them that like
made the border and it was pinkand then we literally put
candles in it.
She was so afraid of thecandles, like we tried to put it
(04:34):
closer to her to sing to herand she like ran away and we
were like we're trying to get acute video.
Um, yeah, it was cute.
Um, she does have like thislittle like dog disease right
now she's okay, but, um, so shecan't be around other dogs
because she's like contagious.
So that was the only bummerabout her birthday.
But we got to take her on likea long trail walk and she loved
(04:56):
it, so it was a good birthdayfor her good way to celebrate
together.
Yeah, the picture you got of herwith the cake so cute she also
looked sad in those picturesbecause I don't think she knew
that she could eat the cake soit was so funny she looks.
She looks like really sadbecause she's not eating it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But yeah, I think she did you enjoy it after like,
when she like?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
oh yeah, she was like it was so interesting she
didn't really know like how toeat it or how to like tackle it,
and so she was licking it atfirst, like licking everything,
and then she like licked one oflike the milk bones off like the
border, and then she ate that,and then I think somehow she got
like a little bit of like.
There was like this I don'tknow if it was, it looked like
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icing, but I'm sure it wassomething for dogs like, maybe
some type of like frozen, likeyogurt or something.
But she got part of that offand so then she was like eating
just that, and then she got tolike the cake part, um, whatever
that was.
But so it was just interestingthat she was eating it in like
pieces.
Yeah, because even after shelearned that she could bite into
it, she was still likedissecting it almost right.
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So I don't know if that's a dogthing or just a bogey thing,
but we thought that was reallyfunny.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
We love a methodical queen, yeah, so particular.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But so that was my five star and one star my life
check-in.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I love happy birthday , bogey.
We love a good celebration yeah, lots of celebrations this.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, before we get into our episode for today, I
just want to say a reminder thatour book for this month is the
Women how Fitting by KristenHanna, so make sure to join us
on Fable to read along with us.
We love Kristen Hanna on thispodcast Obsessed, and I'm ready
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for my heart to be torn out andput through a shredder and then
stomped on.
So that's about right.
Yeah, yep that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That about covers it.
Yeah, um, but yeah, join us onfable at lazy girl library.
But this episode all aboutwomen discussing our favorite
women characters, authors,creators, etc.
And women who inspire us.
So let's go girls, um, allright.
So, starting in the literaryspace, who is your favorite
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female protagonist in a book andwhat makes her stand out?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
okay, we both said the same person because she's
phenomenal she is love alen.
Yes, and it's incredible fromthrone of glass yes, from third
of glass, which is an arguablylike perfect series, um, but
basically I love her because fora lot of female main characters
, I feel like they have like acrutch of like needing to depend
(07:38):
on someone.
Like they, even if they arelike um, like spunky and like
independent independent, theystill rely on people.
And though Ailyn does rely on alot of people, I think she
doesn't need to depend on anyoneand though she doesn't depend
on anyone, she cares foreveryone.
(08:00):
She's really selfless, but atthe same time, she knows when to
fill her cup up.
So I just think she's reallyselfless, but at the same time,
she knows when to fill her cupup.
So, I just think she's like verymature, she's so like smart.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
She's always got a plan, true mastermind, yeah,
yeah.
So I know you have notes too,but those are just some of the
things about.
Ailyn, that I love her.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
No, completely agree.
I also really love like herfaults and her flaws that I
think are written so perfectly,because I think that, like, by
showing that and how she's likeknows that she's not perfect in
the slightest and makes allthese mistakes, but it never
stops her from trying and likegiving her all for the people
that she loves, yeah, um, so Ithink that just adds like a
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realness to her.
That's really relatable.
Um, because it's like thetrials that she goes through
kind of thing.
Otherwise it'd be like too easy,she's too perfect.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's kind of like the opposite
spectrum of like.
So she doesn't depend on anyoneand it's almost like the
outside people are like but wewant you to let us in on the
plan, like we want you to knowthat you care for us and we care
for you just as much, which Ithink is sometimes things that I
think just in real life, peopleneed to know absolutely, yeah,
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it's so real, um, and she justembodies everything that I love
and want from like a female maincharacter.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Um, yeah, and her ultimate mastermind, like, oh,
the way her brain works.
I love it.
But I also love too how she cango from like being badass
warrior who to like stillembracing her femininity and
like loving, like pretty dressesand the glitz and the glam and
just like curling up with a goodbook.
Yes, because you don't need tochoose exactly, yeah, you can be
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.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
yeah, oh my gosh, I love that.
Yes, I feel I very much relateto that, because I'm someone who
loves to be girly and stuff,and then I'm someone who loves
to drink a beer.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, and you're so sporty too, you can get out
there and you can get down withthe boys too, Dudes and derbs.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Dudes and derbs I have worn that phrase into like
the ground, but yeah, but youdon't have to be like put in a
box.
I think that's another thing,especially for girls.
It's like you have to fit intolike one category and it's like
you don't.
I told actually my co-workerstoday that I'm like a hobby
hopper.
I love to try different hobbiesbut I'm not like locked in on
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any of them, so I'm mediocre ata lot of things.
I'm just not good at anything,jack of all trades, but anyway,
kind of like Ailyn, like she'sdoing it all, like she's just
trying.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, no, I think she's one of those characters
that's like so well developedthat I feel like every woman can
find something to relate to inher yeah, what do you relate to?
most in her oh, probably theasking for help, honestly, and
that fault because I take somuch on myself for sure you know
it's not that I and it's one ofthose things that I think with
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ayla is like you know that otherpeople are willing to help you
but you don't want to put that,the burden of what you're going
through on somebody else,because it's yours to care, that
you want to like take care of.
You don't want them to gothrough it, but it's like that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
They want to help, I know, but that's why it's like
such an eye-opening, so it'sgreat.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And then having her have a lot of these like faults
and things, um, for you to seeyourself in, that it like helps
you, like realize and like takethose messages back and being
like it's okay to have, likethat's why it's like it takes a
village for everything, and tolike to really utilize that and
like it's okay, yeah.
So yeah, what about you?
What do you think is like?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
the what I said before, like how, oh yeah?
Yeah if you rewind, soengrossed in what you're saying
that I didn't even realize youanswered your own question no,
you're good, you're good.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
um, I do also want to give honorable mentions to
Manon, also from Throne of Glass, and Nesta from A Court of
Thrones and Roses.
She's my girl and I love themboth.
I think they're also reallyamazing women, characters that
again have their faults andtheir flaws, but then also the
way they work through them.
So those are kind of myhonorable mentions.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'll give an honorable mention.
Addy larue is an honorablemention and then basically any
female main character by emily,henry or abby jimenez yes, she
does those girls well or they dothose girls well just love a
good, a good written fmc.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, um, so what is a book written by a
woman that changed yourperspective on something?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Speaking of Addie LaRue, I'm going to go with the
Invisible Life of Addie LaRue byVictoria E Schwab.
We read this as a book talk awhile back, so if you haven't
listened to it, listen to it,because I feel like we had lots
of thoughts and it was a reallyfun discussion.
But I think the like where itchanged my perspective is just
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kind of like on life, you know,there you always feel like
something's missing, or if Icould only change this one thing
, or if I could remove this onething from my life, then it
would be so much better.
But, as you see in the book,when they're just like please
don't let this happen, or likeplease let this happen, just
trying to change their life tomake it better, it essentially
makes it way way worse.
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If your life is already great,like you know, take a look
around and take in, like thethings that you're grateful for
and what does fill your cup upand how you are loved by certain
individuals.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, no, that's so good that actually I saw a
TikTok today of a woman talkingabout a TikTok.
She saw TikTok conceptionExactly.
But basically about this, this80 year old woman whose like
biggest advice was don't winyour life away, and so it's like
so good.
Her, like her whole story, islike um, when I have kids, then
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I'll be happy, when I'm married,then I'll be happy when I have
grandkids, and so, and then shejust that, and now she's 80 and
realized that like it'shappiness isn't like the
destination, it's like thejourney and to try to like, wait
for and like that's when thingsare going to get better, then
you're always going to be movingthat dial forward.
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You're never going to reachthat.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It's so true.
I think a lot of our babyboomer parents are recognizing
that, with, you know, retiringand saying like I'll do it when
I'm retired, and then there aresome things that they can't do
because of their bodies.
You know, so true.
It's just you have to do thingsnow.
It's not guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, that was a great choice.
Thanks, good pick.
Tell me yours, mine is theNightingale by Kristen Hanna.
I almost said the same one areyou guys?
tired of hearing us talk aboutthis one yet well, too bad um,
this book altered my brainchemistry forever in like so
many ways, but specifically forthis question it was really
(15:00):
interesting reading about likeworld war ii from the
perspective of vianne, or likethe women who stayed home while
the men left to like fight.
It was so inspiring andfascinating and like a story
that you just didn't realizeneeded to be told it's something
that kind of like takenadvantage of, you forget about.
but like these women, um, it'slike a necessary perspective to
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like understand how much theywere fighting the war themselves
at home too, and like what theywere doing to help the war
efforts but having to also stillkeep up like the home and take
care of like these villages thatare being overrun by Nazis, and
like how they're surviving inthis precarious situation as to
like just being women.
So really loved that like newperspective.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
it wasn't even like a new perspective, but just like
bringing awareness to thatperspective yeah, just like a
good reminder, I think something, a perspective that kind of
shifted or changed, or that Iwas just reminded, enlightened
of, um well, how many buzzwordsdid I?
just say they're the same thing,um, was the fact that, like we
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haven't ever been in a positionlike that where there's been a
war that's been knocking on ourdoorstep that has affected like
like us in like a day-to-daybasis, but currently there are
people that being that are beingaffected by wars.
It's just like it was such likean ignorant feeling on my end,
(16:30):
like once like yeah, so yeah, Ijust like makes me want to care
for more of the world Absolutely, because, yeah, no one deserves
to like go through that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, that's such a good point.
As much as it's like world warii, but you're so right, it's
like even happening today andlike we're in such a privileged
spot to like not even bethinking about that and having
to worry about it, whereas, like, women are believing this every
day.
Yeah, so valid wow, great point.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
We will be saying prayers yes, okay, if you could
rewrite a male centered book orstory with a female protagonist,
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which one, would it be, cametoo easy for them and, like I
know, it would not have comethat easy for a girl.
And even there was another,there was a girl character in
there.
That it's definitely the bookis not centered around her, but
like her journey through thebook, which we're only getting
(17:38):
tidbits of, sounded so much moreinteresting than this in some
ways.
I don't know, um, but I justthink maybe like the female's
perspective or like thatcharacter's perspective of the
girl in the book would havecaptivated me more.
And maybe it is just like abiological thing, like I'm just
not connecting with the man, um,because it wasn't like a bad
(18:00):
book, but I just like, wantedmore and like like there was
depth but at the same time itjust like wasn't where I wanted
it.
I guess I don't know if that'sjust a me opinion, but that's my
opinion that makes total sense.
Yeah, it's hard to talk about itwithout getting into spoilers,
(18:20):
but I guess the best way that Ican put it is he had to go
through a journey and a trialand it just felt like everything
worked out for him.
Maybe it's kind of like therewasn't as many hurdles, like
like there were, I don't know.
Just like, yeah, it all workedout.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But maybe that's like the difference between like men
and women too is.
It's like we think so muchdeeper on a lot of these things,
so like we want more of thatlike in-depth complexity from
like our characters versus likemen don't necessarily not saying
that all men are like that, butgenerically speaking, don't
necessarily not saying that allmen are like that, but
generically speaking, don't havethat kind of like constantly
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thinking about the complexitiesof other people, their emotions,
things like that to where, likewe would want that.
So maybe that had something todo with it too, maybe, which
would make it interesting as afemale character.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, but tell me about your story.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So I am a big Greek mythology fan, so I would love
to see a retelling of like theIliad and the Odyssey, if the
men were actually women.
I think that would make it sointeresting for two different
reasons.
I would love to see, like thejuxtaposition of like the man in
a female role, because like inhistory, everything is written
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by men about men from the maleperspective and like how women
were perceived is very much fromthe male gaze versus like if it
was the reverse and the femalewould be yeah, but just like the
helplessness damsel in distressor like how things are
perceived that way.
(19:58):
I would love to see a man put inthe female perspective and I
think it would show just howridiculous some of those like
things are when you're readingit as like putting the man in
there.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, like the flip-flop of it,um, so like part of me wants to
see that and just like to like,kind of like see the
ridiculousness of it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That would be funny to see it in like an extreme
sense.
I will say, though, in amoderate sense I love getting
help from Justin.
Oh, yeah.
I'm okay with being the damsel.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
But I feel like there's like a difference
between like getting help andlike the way that a lot of these
women are written so helplessly, because it's not that you're
helpless, you just like helpyeah, and I think that's like.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I just want to be taken care of exactly exactly,
but you're fully capable.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, and I feel like a lot of these things,
especially like ancient history.
It's like women are fullyincapable and stupid.
It's like how it's written,kind of thing.
So, versus, if you put a man inthat perspective, it would just
be funny to like I feel like ithits harder, like that
stereotype, if that makes senseI agree, um, but then I would
also love to see it as far aslike the difference in
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strategizing during, like thetrojan war.
If it was like kind of likerewritten, obviously because
it'd be more of a story, uh, butlike if women were the ones,
like at war, like how would likethe battle be different?
Or you know, like, um, thedifferent outcomes of the many
obstacles odysseus faced whentrying to get home, like if
versus if he was a woman, like awoman like how would he like,
(21:28):
or she like attack those thingsdifferently and the outcome
might be different.
I don't know.
Uh, I kind of got like a tasteof this with cersei by madeline
middler, um, because obviouslyshe's a cersei, is a goddess and
part of the odyssey, so youonly get like her story and like
her part of the bigger picture.
Okay, but it was interestingcomparing like that perspective
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to the original.
So I'd love to see it likegender flipped yeah, that's very
interesting that would be mine,long-winded, but I like it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, shifting gears into other forms of media.
What's the most iconicportrayal of a woman in tv or
film that resonated with you?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
um, there are so many , so many, so many good ones, um
, but I'm I went with the firstone that came to my mind because
I reached recently re-watchedthe lord the ring series with
josh, so I'm gonna say it wasaon um, specifically in the
third movie, return of the king.
Um, so essentially like she, forlike people who like kind of
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don't know, just give a very,very high summary she's like a
noblewoman from one of the landsin like the series and she's
essentially told like to stayhome with all the women to like
take care of like the people andlike the place while the men go
off to war.
But she's like no, I want tofight.
So she pretends to dress up asa man and a soldier and go and
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fight in this war and then, uh,she like faces, like one of like
the big spirit generals, um,and uh, he essentially uh is
like you know, no man can everlike defeat me.
And then that's when she liketakes off her helmet and reveals
that she's a woman and she'slike I am no man and then kills
the guy.
Oh, it just hits so hard.
But I think what I love aboutit too is kind of like what we
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were talking about with ailyn isthat it shows the complexity.
Like you, throughout the movieyou can tell like she's really
scared and she's really likefrightened and like she and like
she's like did I do the rightthing?
But then she does it anyway.
Yeah, she pushes through thefear, and so it doesn't take
away from the fact that she'sscared, but it adds to, like
that, character growth and thenthe reveal and I am no man, just
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hits hard.
What did?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Josh think of that part.
He loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
No, he loved the whole series.
Yeah, so yeah, that that's mine, though that was just an iconic
one that just, oh, got me going, and women what about you?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
mine's a bit more lighthearted.
It's okay, because that's what.
That's what makes it fun.
um, so I thought of like acouple, but, um, gilmore girls
and new girl.
So so Lorelai and Jessica Day,I feel like they're all just
trying to live their lives inthis world, which is hard, but
they're also not like takinglife too seriously and they know
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when to have fun.
And like, specifically Lorelai,she is a strong, independent
woman raising Rory on her own,but like she's so quippy and she
still has fun with it, but shereally just gets her stuff done
and she doesn't have to be likeemotional about it and she puts
a good emphasis on food becausefood is so important absolutely
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to all women everywhere.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
um, those are such good ones.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, and then Jessica Day I just like relate
to her and like I feel like shejust like wants to, not that she
like wants to fit in and changeherself, but she wants to like
be herself and like be a part ofit, like she wants to be a part
of what the guys are doing andshe wants to, like, show up for
her friends and um, but likeshe's not gonna change, yeah,
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that she's wearing her polkadots or that she might be doing
silly voices, or even if youfind her annoying, well, that's
just her.
So I really I like both of thema lot.
And then an honorable mentionfor the Bring it On franchise.
All the love is so sassy.
I just that's so funny.
As a kid, I loved those movies.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I'm like those were my girls yes, no, I could
totally see that.
I love that, no those are thoseare really good ones.
Thanks, um, but like who wouldbe your ultimate female role
model in pop culture, would yousay?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
this was kind of hard and thinking of like role model
and I'm sure there are otherstoo, but the one that was coming
to my mind was like SadieRobertson good one, um, so she's
got like such a good head onher shoulders and what I really
like value in her, but she hasno like she couldn't plan this.
But we're around the same ageand I just really like align
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with her values and it's neat tosee like what she does and to
like take inspiration from it.
Um, and so, yeah, I just thinkshe's living a good life and
she's just like really sweet anddown to earth and vulnerable
with people.
Um, so I I just yeah, I think Ilike her a lot and I think
she's a a good role model for me.
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Um, and then another honorablemention the pink power ranger I
love that.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
What about you?
Um, my forever queen, julieandrews oh yeah, that's a good
one.
Love her.
Princess diaries is like myfavorite movie of all time
growing up still is.
It's my comfort movie, um, andso she just had like a huge
impact on me from like a veryyoung age, not to mention like
mary poppins and the sound ofmusic, although I will say sound
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of music was not my favoritegrowing up, I wasn't like one of
those diehard fans.
Well, it's about war, yeah, um,but there are people that
really love it, like it is aclassic.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I do.
I do like singing the songs.
I will say that maybe I willplay that on my way home today.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I haven't heard them in a while.
Um, but definitely mary poppinsloved, but especially this
movie.
Um, she just is like so regaland the way she holds herself
and she's so graceful.
Um, and like just learning somany fun facts about her as I've
grown up.
She's just somebody that, likeI hold in such high esteem.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
What's your favorite fun fact?
Sorry, putting you on the spot.
It's okay if you can't.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
The song she sings in the Princess Diaries 2 is the
first time that she sang likebeing filmed singing, since she
had her botched like vocal cordsurgery surgery um back in like
1997 that is a fun fact which isso wild because like she
sounded so good.
You would have never guessed shesounded so good, yeah um, and I
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I feel horrible knowing, like Iguess she like I don't know the
full story, so they get to givecontext but I know that she
like had to undergo like vocalcord surgery or something on
those lines, um, obviously backlike in 97 and um it just went
horribly wrong, I guess, and soshe went from having like this
beautiful voice.
I remember reading like I thinkshe sung for queen elizabeth
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when she was 13 like had thisamazing voice and then all of a
sudden she like lost it becauseof I hope she puts out a memoir
one day me too.
If it doesn't already exist, Ishould look it up.
Yeah, um, but yeah, and so thefact that she's been able to
like still have like such anamazing career, and the fact
that she was able to sing, loveit, that's love her.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I do think she is someone who's so elegant like
she reminds me of a queen.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Maybe that's because of her diaries but it's just the
way she holds herself.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, she holds herself so like, highly, but at
the same time, like I feel likeI could walk up to her like it's
not unapproachable like, whichI think is an important trait to
have.
Absolutely yeah, to beapproachable is an important
trait to have yes, shedefinitely out of.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Pop culture has probably had the biggest impact
for the longest period of time.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
For me, yeah, that's good.
Okay, what's a song by a femaleartist that always makes you
feel powerful?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Uh man, I Feel Like a Woman by Shania.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Twain yeah, that one's so good.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Iconic.
It's a classic, been a staplesince I was a little girl.
The music is just like-.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
When you hear that beginning.
It's like let's go girl, yeah,girl.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
The music is just like that beginning.
It's like let's go, girls.
Or even yeah, yeah, yeah, themusic is just like.
It's kind of like it's fun, butalso like kind of powerful and
spunky.
But then the lyrics are justlike the epitome of girlhood,
womanhood.
It's just fun and it oh gets megoing.
I love it.
What about you?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
um, okay, I have three.
Yes, there's so many and Iprobably could list more, but um
, the first one that came tomind was Hayley Williams on
Paramore, or, with Paramore,misery Business that one is so
fun to just like belt out.
Yep, um.
And then Britney Spears.
Piece of Me that one makes mefeel like.
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Like that one makes me feelpowerful.
Yeah, you're a big Britney fan,that's all I can say.
Well, I mean she just like.
I once watched this TikTokwhere this girl was saying her
therapist said um, to like danceto your music.
Like dance to music in front oflike a mirror, like conf, like
sexy, confident and like like Ido dance around in my house to
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music all the time because I dothink it like helps with
confidence and just making youfeel good and like there's just
something about like the beatsof britney spears songs and just
like feeling like that like popstar, like diva energy, just
for a song that I can, that Ithink just like really does
something to you.
At least for me it does.
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And then the final one, whichis kind of like a random one but
holding out for a hero byBonnie Tyler.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Oh my gosh, you're so right that one does get me
going.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh yes, such a good one that one, I feel like I
could ride like a chariot intobattle.
Oh yeah, it always reminds meof the original Footloose,
because that's in the soundtrack.
That's where I know it from,and yeah, just so good.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
That is such a good one that one makes me think of
the fan edit from the Star Warsmovie.
It was like the is it like Iforget the name of it?
Rise of Skywalker, I think,maybe.
Uh, whatever, the last one inthe most recent trilogy?
Uh, with kylo ren running tosave ray they like, added,
edited the song.
(31:43):
Oh, it gives me all the feels.
Love, yeah, great choice.
I think it's also in shrekiconic.
So many things Okay, but who isa real life woman that inspired
you personally?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
This one is also hard and it's like I feel guilty,
just like saying someone like,especially someone like that
like I know personally becauseit really is like all the women
in my life like, and especiallymy mom, which I don't want that
to like be a cop out, like it'sI mean, it's not a cop out, but
I don't want it to feel that waybut of course her because she's
(32:23):
been like, she has been my rolemodel and like the biggest
woman in my life for so long,woman in my life for so long.
But I do think something that'sinteresting is that for role
models, for me it tends to likeshift as I get older.
So sometimes it's been like arandom girl in my class, like in
(32:44):
middle school or high school.
I've just really resonated withthem or I've looked up to them
in some way, shape or another.
And then maybe it's been afriend's mom that I've been like
oh, I'm getting a goodperspective like from them.
Or you know, even though yourmom might tell you something,
hearing it from someone elselike, you're like, oh, yeah, so.
Or like, lately, colleagueslike.
There have definitely been somecolleagues in my life that I
(33:06):
have looked up to as role models, especially those that are just
a couple years older than me,that can feel like my work mom
or like a cheerleader.
I feel like they're teaching meso much, um.
And then to like say a name ofa person, a real person I would
say Taylor Lautner, TaylorLautner's wife yeah, they're
both the same, but I've beenlistening to their podcast, the
(33:27):
Squeeze.
Um, I listen sometimes and shejust feels like very real and
very vulnerable and like likeshe's she cares.
It sounds like she just cares alot and is really interested in
mental health and creating aspace where people um can share
about that.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
So that was kind of long-winded, but no those are
really good ones.
Um no, I totally agree withtaylor too, because, too,
because I've listened to acouple of hers and, yeah, she
does have that just authenticfeel of really caring about it
and not just doing it becausemental health is really popular
right now kind of thing.
Yeah, you're so right.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Thanks, what about?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
you?
Yeah, I'm with you.
My real and true answer is thewomen in my family, especially
my mother, is like the women inmy family, especially my mother,
like there's.
Obviously these are the peoplethat you grow up seeing and like
, who like embody being a womanand like who you want to emulate
growing up.
Um, but that just kind of feltlike an easy answer for me.
So I'm kind of thinking outsideof blood relation.
(34:26):
So right now, personally, uh,alona mayor and elise myers are
both very inspiring for me.
Um, both of them areinfluencers.
Alona, uh, she just won thebronze medal yeah, she's not
just an influencer, she's anolympian she won the bronze
medal, uh, in rugby, uh, thispast olympics, um, but I've been
(34:51):
following her since theprevious Summer Olympics An OG
fan On TikTok yeah, I just thinkI found her because I thought
she was really funny and she wasposting like all the behind the
scenes stuff in the OlympicVillage and it was just like
funny and good content.
But she's really had like areally amazing impact on like
(35:16):
how I view myself and likeself-confidence, because I feel
like there's a lot of things anda lot of people say the same
thing.
So it's not necessarily thatthe message that she's putting
out there is like new, but it'sjust taking the right person for
it to like sink in.
You know what I mean, andthat's what these two women do
for me.
So it's like theself-confidence and like what
beauty is and how you can belike strong and powerful and
(35:38):
like obviously she's such anamazing athlete, but then she
wears lipstick on the fieldbecause she's also super
feminine and and like embracesthat with her.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, I love similar to how we're talking about elin.
I love that crossover.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, it's so great and seeing it like I've seen um
different people post about liketheir little girls, like really
like resonating with her a lotand like seeing them like start
to realize and like soak in thatmessage too, is just like
really inspiring.
So I'm obsessed with her.
And then also elise, um, I'vebeen following her for a very
(36:10):
long time and she's the firstperson that helped me like kind
of realize what representationmatters like really sink in.
Obviously, like you understandthe concept and like you agree,
and like you and everybodyshould feel like represented and
like the media that they'reconsuming.
But again, it's just like one ofthose that she was the person
that really like let it sink infor me, um, specifically with
(36:32):
just like her neurodivergentstories, um, and it's not even
that she talks about it in a way, um, and like her journey she
kind of does, but it's not eventhat she talks about it in a way
.
And like her journey she kindof does, but it's just more like
the way she tells stories, theway she communicates when she
talks about like her socialanxieties or stress in like such
a funny way.
But it's like, oh my gosh, no,that's exactly how I feel and
(36:55):
that's exactly what I think, andlike you think that you're the
only one, but then seeingsomebody else talk about it,
you're like you think thatyou're the only one, but then
seeing somebody else talk aboutit, you're like, oh my gosh,
that's insane.
Like I really really connectedwith her in like a really good
way.
So, yeah, just like her dailystruggles, triumphs, the way
that she talks about it, it'sjust, yeah, really hits hard.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
They're both awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Those are good.
Those would be mine.
But what is the best piece ofadvice you've ever received from
a woman?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Again, that is so hard it is.
Most of these come from my mom.
One big one is that you don'tneed to worry about what others
think about you, because they'relikely thinking about
themselves.
And so so true thing that hasalways helped me in so many
different circumstances, fromgetting ready for a presentation
(37:42):
and knowing that like no one'sthinking about my presentation,
because they're thinking aboutremembering what to say for
theirs, to just like all facetsof life.
You know, not in like a meanway, but we're all very
self-centered people and thatlike it's our lives.
We all think we're the maincharacter and so you really
(38:04):
don't need to worry about howothers are like perceiving you
in most situations, becausethey're probably thinking about
themselves.
And I think this is so truebecause we'll have girl nights
and like we're all having agreat time, and then afterwards
it's like we all collectivelytext in the group and it's like,
hey, I'm sorry, you thoughtthat, yeah, and it's like I came
(38:27):
off across this way, yeah, andit's like we all are just
thinking about our own likefaults, so you don't need to
worry about like what others arethinking about, because they're
just thinking about themselvesyeah, so true and true.
And then another one which issuper similar, but fake it till
you make it kind of same thing.
It's like not a single personhas done this before, no one has
lived life before, so no oneknows what they're doing.
(38:50):
And even if someone's donesomething before, you're not
wrong for doing something thefirst time, or for making a
mistake or for learning, and sojust like, fake it, you know,
and then if you do make amistake, then it's a learning
opportunity.
It doesn't mean that, likeyou're bad or you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
So.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It's also like.
It's like law of attraction too.
Cause it's like whatever youput out is what you're getting
back.
So even if you're not confident, if you're faking that
confidence, then you're going tolike attract confidence and
like the perks of beingconfident kind of thing too.
Yeah, yeah.
So those are really good ones.
Thank you, um, for me at least.
Again, there's so many women inmy family who have like so much
(39:36):
advice.
But of course, when I'm sittingdown trying to think of
something for the question, yeah, all gone.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Oh my gosh it always happens.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, um, so because I just could not pull something
from my memory in my brain, um,I went with my favorite quote,
which is no one can make youfeel inferior without your
consent amen.
By eleanor roosevelt.
Um, this one I think about sooften, um, especially since I
learned it from my favoritecomfort movie.
(40:03):
This is from princess diaries.
Um, but it's just like you know, like, how we're perceived is
obviously like we talked about,like something that everybody
really struggles with,especially as women.
I feel like we're even moreconscious about, like what
people think of us.
So this has just really becomelike my mantra when I'm feeling
particularly self-conscious oflike nobody can truly make you
(40:25):
feel that way unless you letsomebody make you feel that way
yeah, I love that kind of thesame thing, but worded
differently.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
My mom used to say don't give them power over your
emotions or like why are yougiving them power over your
emotions?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
so it's like the same thing, but in different font
and it's obviously like harderor it's easier said than done
but I think, even justrecognizing like, oh, I'm upset
because I'm letting.
Yeah exactly it's like tryingto like teach yourself and
remember, like let things rolloff your back and like, yeah,
(40:58):
not let people affect youbecause, truly like, you're the
one that's letting them affectyou in that way what will be
will be exactly.
This was so good this was a goodone.
Yeah, I'm excited to talk aboutmore empowering women for our
book later if we'll be able totalk, I'll probably be crying
the whole time.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
True, I'm literally talking about.
The nightingale earlier made metear up.
I don't know if you noticed but, yeah, I was like, okay, pull
it together no, I'm only like.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I think I've read through like six chapters so far
and it's already like really Ihave to go get it, it's not this
.
Well, it is sad, but it's notlike like that hard-hitting,
like emotional sad, but it'sjust intent and so I can only
imagine, like as we go on whenyou're like connected to the
story of the characters, exactlyhow it's gonna hit.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well, speaking of reading and how far along you
are, what are your borrows andreturns?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Not much from me currently for borrows.
It's the Women by Kristen Hanna.
And then I am jumping back inmy book that's been sitting on
my nightstand for a very longtime untouched the adhd for
smart ass women by tracy atsuka.
Um, just again, this is one ofthose you pick up and read every
once in a while, but I haven'ttouched it.
So I'm gonna try to like pickit up and at least read like a
(42:13):
paragraph or two here and thereand try to, you know, get
through it, because I think itdoes have some good like
insights and tips and stuff, um,that I'd like to pull, but I
just have to make the time to doit.
Yeah, um, and then I have noreturns.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I have not been reading and they'll probably be
scarce for me here for the nextcouple months I know, until
after may and after june for youthe the second half of the year
we're really gonna ramp oh yeah, I mean second half of the year
.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I feel like, like we're going to be going in.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Cruising.
So for my returns I have RedRising by Pierce Brown, which I
touched on.
So I would give it like a 3.5stars.
It was a well-written, likesci-fi fantasy book.
It had some really greatelements.
I just personally wasn't ascaptivated or connected to it as
some other or as some otherbooks have made me feel um, but
(43:05):
it wasn't a bad book at all.
So even though I'm reading itlike in the middle, it's just
because I, for me personally,I've read ones that have
connected more um, but I'd stillrecommend people reading it
because it was really.
It was like an interesting,like concept and story.
And then obviously I'm going tobe borrowing the women and
reading that for book club.
(43:26):
And then I'm also doing firsttime caller by bk borson as an
audiobook.
So that's like interesting, alittle light-hearted romance,
yeah.
So I think that'll be fun.
I was listening to it on theway here and, um, I'm enjoying
the voice actors because thatmake or breaks an audiobook for
me.
So that's good, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
New author.
Be curious to hear yourthoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I really like the cover to it.
Well, you wouldn't, becauseit's cartoon people.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
But I just like the colors and yeah, oh fun.
I'll be excited to hear yourthoughts when it becomes a
return and we'll be excited tohear everyone's thoughts when
they join our fable club andparticipate with us, with the
women.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yes, come, come discuss, come talk um, and you
can connect with us there atlazy girl library or on
instagram at lazy girl library.
Leave us a comment atlazygirllibrarycom.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
We just want to talk to you all, yeah, and I'd love
for you all to either comment onthis podcast or DM us on any
women authors that you feelinspired by, or just women in
general, if there's any advicefrom women.
Basically, if you want toanswer any of the questions that
we talked about, I would be socurious and so honored to hear
(44:39):
what you have to say Me too, andhappy Women's History Month
everyone.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Happy Women's History Month, all right, thanks for
joining Bye.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Well, dear listeners, we find ourselves at the end of
another episode.
And remember, the Lazy GirlLibrary is not just a podcast,
it's a community.
We absolutely love hearing fromfellow book lovers, so don't
forget to share your thoughtsand your favorite reads with us
on our social media.
You can find us on Instagram atLazy Girl Library.
Make sure to check out ourwebsite, lazygirllibrarycom,
(45:16):
your one-stop shop for allthings Lazy Girl.
Before we go, we want to take amoment to thank all of our
wonderful listeners, whetheryou're listening from your cozy
bed, on your way to work oranywhere in between.
Thank you for making us a partof your day and for being a part
of our Lazy Girl family.
So keep those pages turning,keep those imaginations
(45:36):
flourishing and remember thebest stories are yet to be
discovered.
Until next time time, stay lazyand happy reading.
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