The Technological Takeover

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Have you ever stood in front of your door, keys in hand, only to realize you're trying to open it with your car remote? Ah, the charming blunders of our everyday lives! Join us as we toast to the seventh chapter of Lazy Girl Library, where we share these moments of delightful disarray and how they intertwine with the literary magic in our lives. In this episode, we'll unravel the impact of the digital age on our reading habits—from the convenience of ebooks to the bustling communities of Bookstagram and BookTok—and debate whether this tech invasion enhances or distracts from our cherished pastime.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Lazy Girl Library, the podcast, where
reading is a pleasure andcaptivating adventures happen
from the comfort of your couch.
I'm your host, darby, and I'mMikayla, and if you've ever
spent more time rearranging yourbookshelf than your priorities,
then you, my friend, are in theright place.
Hello, hello, episode sevenhere at your girls, lazy, lazy

(00:35):
girls in the house.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Crazy that we're already on episode seven.
It is crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's also crazy for those of you listening.
We just recorded our lastpodcast like three days ago, so
it's kind of deja vu.
I also am really reallyoverwhelmed at work, so I feel
kind of like a loose cannon.
So if I'm a bit hyper, I thinkthat's why I think I'm just like
ready to roll.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Meanwhile, I'm on the total opposite end of the
spectrum.
I just tried to unlock my frontdoor with my car keys, like
we're just not having a goodtime over here.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
We're on two extremes .
Right now I'm on like a sugarhigh.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
So it'll be a great episode for you all.
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
doing Darby.
Well, like I said, I'moverwhelmed, but I was telling
Michaela before we startedrecording.
On the way over here I had alittle pop punk session in the
car and I was dancing like crazyand at a stoplight I looked
over and this old man in histruck was looking at me and
rolled down his window and gaveme a thumbs up and I gave him a
thumbs back and I was like, yeah, sometimes you just got to

(01:39):
dance it out.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'm feeling good.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
But honestly, I'm really excited for this big
event that I'm planning at work.
I think it's going to be reallyfun and impactful.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You put a lot of work into it, thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
So we're just in crunch time, so my life has
really been work focused, but Idid get to start our book club
book Exciting, and I just readthe first chapter, but I am
intrigued already, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
How are you doing?
I'm good.
I haven't gotten a whole lot ofchance to read, just because we
are a little bit behind on thepodcast.
Sorry to you listeners, we area little bit behind schedule,
but it's okay, we're lazy, thereis no schedule.
So I've been doing that more.
So I haven't got a chance tostart the New Book Club book,
but I can talk about that laterwith our boroughs and returns.

(02:27):
Other than that, life's beenpretty pretty okay, works pretty
steady, so nothing crazy.
There gives me a chance to workon other stuff while I'm there
too, don't tell my boss.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
But yeah, it's been fun, that's fun and you have fun
plans this weekend, right?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, we're actually going to go see Luke Combs, me
and Josh, so it's going to be areal fun time.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Wait, did we see Luke Combs together one time?
We did last time he was here.
He's so good, yeah, we lovedthat concert.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's one of our favorites that we went to.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
And so we're really excited to go see him on his
world tour.
Now stadium tour world tour.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yep, so it'll be good .
Oh, that's exciting.
That'll be really fun for youall.
Yeah, I'm just doing a josh'sfavorite artist too, which I
love him too, don't get me wrong.
So.
But it's kind of funny becausejosh used to hate country music,
like when we first starteddating.
He would absolutely nothing todo with country I wonder what
changed.
He's like the biggest fan of it.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
He I bet it was justin, honestly no, uh.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
But it started off with like I don't listen to
country music.
Then it was like I onlylistened to luke combs, which,
like out of all the countryartists, is like one of the most
like country country artistsyeah, that is weird.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I started with um because I didn't like country
music until ninth or not ninthgrade, freshman year of college,
and I think it was.
I forget his name.
Maybe it's Sam, something, theone that sings yeah, body like a
baby, yeah, but the one thatgot me is yo ecstasy, ecstasy.
You know that one?
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
so that was what got me into country music, so at
least it got there.
Yeah, I mean into country music, so at least he got there.
Yeah, I mean like he's more.
He listens to more country thanI do nowadays, so he's got the
complete 180 there, that's stilllike the poke fun of it?
yeah, have you always likedcountry?
I have, yeah, my parents lovedcountry, so I listened to it
growing up.
Shania twain, I listened tolike her up album on repeat.

(04:19):
I burned that disc to theground, darby the amount of
shows I would put on for myfamily with that album.
Ooh, yep, that's so true, bigcountry gal.
Anyway, back to books.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Back to books.
Well, life's a story, so, oh, Ilove it, I love it, love it.
But the stories we're going tobe talking about now are the
ones that we see online.
We're talking abouttechnological takeover, ai so
scary, but kind of the mainthemes for today.
We're going to talk about thepros and cons of technology in

(04:54):
the literary space.
So that's ebooks, audiobooks,book talk, bookstagram, AI, fan
art and whatever else we thinkof along the way.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
It'll be a time.
Yeah, I feel like it's wellobviously today's day and age
like everything's become supertechnologically advanced and
like everything's online, soit's been interesting to watch
the book community and like theliterature world adapt to that
as well too.
Whether it's for the better orworse, that's for this episode
to decide.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, it is interesting, I've been thinking
lately I've been on a big boymeets world kick the tv show.
Did you watch that growing?
up love love, sorry headphonewarning.
Justin always says that in thehouse we yell it um.
But I was thinking about like,wow, sometimes life just seems

(05:45):
so much easier and simplerbecause obviously there are no
phones in that setting and wealthough it's hard to imagine
now, but we grew up without cellphones and social media and so
just watching those showssometimes I'm like, oh, I wish
we could go back.
For like a couple of years,simpler times, yeah, I think
like mentally healthier times.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
It just makes me like sad.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I could not imagine going through school without
like Google to do like researchpapers Google for sure, oh my
gosh.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
But like Instagram, yeah, you know.
Yeah, I get you.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
But yeah, just I think about that sometimes too,
where it's like could youimagine trying to do some of the
things that we're so used tonow without computers, having to
go to the actual library fornot fun books but to actually do
research on certain things orfind information, instead of
having it just at yourfingertips?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Oh, absolutely not.
It would be interesting.
It would force people to talkmore.
That's true.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
In social settings.
Maybe that's the introvert inme that's totally disgusted by
it.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Maybe that's the introvert in me, that's like
totally disgusted by it.
Maybe that's what I'm yearningfor.
Please someone.
A stranger talk.
That's funny.
Yeah, it is.
It is strange.
I've contemplated getting aflip phone.
Oh yeah, I know You've talkedabout that before.
Yeah, so maybe one day.
But then how will I post onLazy Girl Library.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
At Lazy Girl Library on Instagram Go follow us, but
anyway, so let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
What is your preferred method of reading?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I think it's no surprise.
A lot of this we kind oftouched on, I feel like, in our
Ix and Oz episode.
But we're going to dive deepspecifically into this.
I prefer my physical books.
I'm a physical book girly.
Deep specifically into this.
I prefer my physical books.
I'm a physical book girly.
I definitely get into myhoarding tendencies where I like
to have like the treasure troveof books in my own little

(07:32):
library.
There's like the serotonin rushof like opening a new book for
the first time, like the tactilefeel of having like the pages.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
And like putting it on your shelf in the perfect
spot.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, and it's like once you finish it, it's like
the trophy up there, you know,it's like I finished that and
then I have this big library forall my friends to come and
borrow books from.
I just love a good physicalbook.
Plus it's like you get all theextra details, like the little
artworks or things that you seein the books that you don't
necessarily get.
Maybe I'm speaking from nothaving used an ebook, audio or

(08:08):
and I don't really listen toaudiobooks.
Obviously audio is audio, notvisual.
But for ebooks that I'massuming, you don't really get
some of those little things youdefinitely don't get the tactile
feel of, like the pretty coversand whatnot.
So I love my physical books,but you could potentially sway
me.
I've started dabbling with theaudiobooks a little, but we'll

(08:29):
see.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
We'll see what about you, darby I am for sure my
preferred method of reading isphysical and even like more like
um, detailed paperbacks.
I'm not a big hard cover gal,but like I'll read it.
Like the fourth wing book Ihave is hard back but anyway.
So yeah, physical is mypreferred.
I don't know.
Kind of the same thing.
I like the feel of it.

(08:50):
It's like mine, like I havethis um.
But I've really gotten intoaudiobooks this year and it's
been nice because I love soundsand noise and I mean I can be in
silence too, but it's just sonice.
I'm the type of person on adrive, like on my way home from
work, I have like a list ofpeople.
I I love sounds and noise and Imean I can be in silence too,

(09:11):
but it's just so nice.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm the type of person on a drive like on my way
home from work.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I have like a list of people I call and oftentimes no
one on the list answers.
Or there just are some timeswhere I only get one or two
phone calls in there and they'requicker.
So then it's like who can Italk to or who can talk to me?
My audio book can.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Love it?
Shout out Spotify for that newfeature.
Honestly fantastic.
We both have been enjoying itvery much.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
It's been so good.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, I've noticed that you've been doing a lot
more audiobooks.
I'm glad that you're enjoyingit.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Thanks, I am enjoying it.
And then I've only ever donee-books on planes and that's
been on my phone, so like if Ifinished a book that I had
brought with me, or I didn'tbring a book and I I want one,
then typically I'll do one on myphone somehow, but those are my
least favorite yeah, I havebeen contemplating whether I

(09:58):
want to start dabbling in theebooks or not, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I go back and forth on it because I do.
I love my physical liketrophies, so I don't know, we'll
see.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, what are your pros and cons, as you're
thinking about ebooks or like akindle and stuff like that?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
um, well, there's a lot of them.
So I think, if we're going tostart with pros, it's cheaper
and easier to buy books becauseeverything's all right there for
you.
I think ebooks tend to be likewhat?
Like five, six bucks versuslike a physical book at cheapest
is like 15 sometimes and thehardcovers are like 30 yeah,
that's another reason why Idon't like them and for what

(10:37):
tangent on the hardcovers,because I thought about this too
when you brought up how youdon't like hardcovers.
I don't mind hardcovers, I likehardcovers, but if'm getting a
series, I need them all to bethe same, and so it drives me
crazy how the books will onlycome out with a hardcover for
like the first year, which makessense like get your bag Right.
But then I'm like but then Ihave to wait even longer if I

(10:57):
already have the series inpaperback to get the paperback
version, because I'm not gonnaget the hardcover version to go
with my series.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
So and you already know I don't like those dust
sheet things which taught me theword.
I don't like dust covers, dustjackets or something I don't
even know.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I don't like them but back to back to the kindles.
We're just all over the place.
I I'm really sorry, guys, I'mI'm feeling loopy right now
we're're good, we're back onKindles, so, yeah, cheaper and
easier to buy books isdefinitely a pro.
They're travel friendly.
I do like that you have so manybooks with you and this little

(11:36):
small device, instead of havingto bring like two or three like
big chunky books with youwhenever you travel the fantasy
books are already so thick.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
And going to that saves youspace in your house, because you
don't have a bunch of bookslying around and trying to find
the space to put them.
That's where I kind of gotstuck, which is where I'm
starting to contemplate maybemoving to a Kindle or an

(11:58):
e-reader, because my apartmentis running out of room for all
of these books, without thebooks completely taking over.
Let them take over.
I don't know how much Joshwould appreciate that one, but
you know it's not completely outof the question either for me,
because he could also deal.
But it does help save space inthat regard, when you don't have

(12:19):
the space for a massive librarythat I dream of having one day.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I will say I think my biggest desire are like prose
with Kindles or eBooks and Idon't know enough about eBooks
or Kindles, but I think I wouldhave less neck wrinkles.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh, from looking down .

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, when I use a physical book, I'm always like
looking down Like it's hard tohold it up and I see those
things on TikToks like thecontraptions that like for you
and you literally have theremote.
So that is lazy girl libraryapproved.
So I will say that that really,really intrigues me.
It is intriguing um, I I wantto use that contraption and I

(13:00):
want to save my neck from thewrinkles of looking down at
books.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I feel like I'd never get out of bed at that point.
Having one of those, I'd justsit there and read all day
because you don't have to, you'dhave to pee, you'd have to eat,
that's true, but in theory Icould eat in bed as well, while
I'm reading.
So I'd only have to get up topee Sounds like paradise.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Almost paradise Knocking on heaven's door.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I also like with the Kindle, too, how you can like
highlight within it withouthaving to mark up pages.
That's nice, because I cannever bring myself to do that in
a physical book.
I just like the pristine pages.
But on a Kindle it doesn'tmatter and it'll save all those.
For self-help books and likefaith-based books, I can mark

(13:51):
those all yeah, but likefictional books.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I am like ah, I can't invade the world, I can't touch
it exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It feels like it's it's like blasphemous in a way.
You're like I am not the author, I can't, I can't touch, yeah,
and it's almost like breakinginto the world, like breaking a
fourth wall, yeah, oh cringe, Iwill say, and again, I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
So I don't know if this is like accurate, I don't
know if there's a lot of bluelight emission from Kindles or
what, but I will say that makesme weary because we're already
staring at so many screens allday and so you're staring at a
book for hours.
When you read, at least, I'm aslow reader so definitely.
You're looking at that for along time and my eyes already I

(14:28):
feel like get sore from all thescreens.
So I don't think I'd like that.
I also don't know, do you know?
Can you lend books in a Kindle?
I don't think so.
Yeah, like I love being able togive out books or books that I
don't like.
I give those away too, becausesomeone will like them if I
don't.
And then also kind of like wewere talking about a bookshelf

(14:48):
Like I want to the ones I do,like I want to be able to see
them.
Like, if someone comes over andthey're like, oh yeah, thinking
of a book, I can easily pointit out and be like this one,
this one, this one read it RightVersus, like when you have the
Kindle.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I know so to where they like a book and then
they'll buy the physical book,but then you're buying two books
Then, when I could have justbought the one physical book and
be done with it.
The price of darn hardcoverthose hardcovers.
I totally agree with you on thescreens, though that's one of
my biggest cons in the bucket,because, yeah, we're staring at
screens constantly all day, andso just give your eyes a break

(15:20):
at some point, but it is adifferent type of screen.
I don't know, I don't know I goback and forth on it.
Honestly, it's got a lot ofyeah, a lot of pros and cons.
I'm trying to think, oh, Idon't like how the covers aren't
in color either.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
On a kindle, like, everything like on a kindle,
it's all black and white, whichI get it because I think it
helps with, like the blue lighttechnology the way that they
make the screen it is, it doeshave like a more yellow hue,
like from the ones I've seenright, but like I don't know it
just like takes away, like itfrom, like the covers for me
again it goes back into like thehoarding and happiness of

(15:55):
having the physical book.
Maybe if you get one you need toput like a fidget toy on there
to like, feel some sort oftexture, to like pretend have
like a yeah, like a fidget toyon the back or like those, uh,
how they have the um, like airbubble or the what's it called
the pop, the plastic, poppingthings.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Bubble wrap, bubble wrap, yeah yes, yeah, yeah, like
one of those on the back whereyou're playing.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yep, absolutely, I think that would work well for
you, I think, josh, christmasgift.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
There we go, I think also with Kindles too.
The one thing I've noticed alot from TikTok is Kindle
Unlimited is like the big thingthat everybody talks about.
What does that mean?
I think it's like, from myunderstanding and again, this is
from outside, looking in we arenot Kindle girl.
We are not experts on this byany means.
This is just what I havegathered from my online research
, that is, tiktok by research.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I haven't truly looked at anything.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Everything on TikTok is real.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Absolutely.
It's like a subscriptionservice that you can do.
If you have a Kindle where youget access to a bunch of free
books, oh, that's nice, um, andso you're not necessarily like
purchasing the books.
You don't own them, but youjust can access them whatever
and you have like this hugelibrary basically at your
disposal.
But part of that kind of goesinto like our qualms with like

(17:17):
the smutty takeover ofeverything and like it's almost
like oversaturating the market,like Like okay, I have access to
all these books, but how muchof them are quality versus just
the quantity of them too?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Is that also like I see on TikTok, sometimes like
Stuff your Kindle Day?
Yeah, exactly, is that likethat's what it is or something
similar, kind of?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
similar.
Yeah, I think it's like thesame thing, but it's like I
think Stuff your Kindle Daygives those who aren't
subscribed like access for thatday to like download a bunch of
those types of books for free.
To my knowledge, I don't um, butyeah, it's the same kind of
thing, but yeah, they're all thesame kind of books.
I feel like at that point, andI don't think you have to be

(17:56):
subscribed to kindle unlimitedif you have a kindle, but it's
like a big draw for people.
But how much of that is evenlike quality books, I guess it
depends on what you're looking Ican't even say quality exactly,
teach your own.
But for me it wouldn't be whatI would be looking for typical
type.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I know you're kind of dabbling in audiobooks.
I'm really into audiobooks.
Do you think audiobooks countas reading?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
yeah, this is a big debate that people have which I
don't know why I don't either.
I think we have the sameopinion on this.
Absolutely, it counts asreading.
Yeah, this is a big debate thatpeople have which I don't know
why I don't either.
I think we have the sameopinion on this.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Absolutely, it counts as reading.
I don't.
I actually don't even know whatthe counter argument would be
like.
It's all the same words, justsomeone's saying them to me
exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well, my thing is when you're learning how to read
and your mom or your dad orwhatever parental figure is like
reading you a bedtime story,does that count as reading?
Yes, when you're like inenglish class reading, uh,
whatever the great outsidersgreat gatsby or whatever, and
you have to do that popcornreading.
Does that count as reading?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
okay, yes, I loved popcorn reading.
I hated it.
I would like look ahead to likeprepare like a performance.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh my gosh, it was so fun oh, that's so funny because
, ahead to like prepare like aperformance oh my gosh, it was
so fun.
Oh, that's so funny because youlook at it as a performance
whereas, like, I'm going throughmaking sure I know how to
pronounce every single word thatI'm about to do and like read
it in my head a thousand timesso I don't mess up.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
But then you think about it Everyone's only
thinking about themselves andtheir own minds.
Absolutely we should popcornread one day?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Maybe, maybe Bedtime story read by the lazy girl
library.
Would you listen?
Let us know?
Uh, yeah, but I think I don'tunderstand the argument, because
if those things count, thenaudiobooks count as reading.
Yeah, you could make theargument that maybe you're not
processing the book as well ifyou're doing it on audio versus

(19:42):
reading, because your eyes aredistracted like multitasking
kind of thing, versus like whenyou're reading, like you're
doing it on audio versus reading, because your eyes are
distracted like multitaskingkind of thing versus like when
you're reading, like you'rephysically like looking at the
book.
But then again, I guess thenyour ears can be like listening
to other things too.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, so I don't know when justin plays tv, when I'm
on the couch reading.
Definitely that has an impact.
Does that mean I didn't stillread the page?
I just read it three times,right?
Sometimes I'll have to back upthe audiobook three times to get
that chapter or that lastminute, that's funny.
I kind of get it, but notreally.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It counts as reading, and anybody else that says
otherwise just doesn't know whatthey're talking about.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, Do you think you could ever be an audiobook
person?
No, could, I don't think Icould.
I used to think I could and nowI don't think I could.
Why it's difficult?
I pretended in practice for myyounger sister, riley, one time
on the phone I love that and shewas like she was giving me the
hard feedback and she was likeyou need more, like there needs
to be more, and I was like Ican't give more.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I was like I've read this three times it's true, I
guess, because you don't havethe visual to like help with,
like have those like visual cuesfor certain things like facial
expressions, whether they'reangry, sad, whatever, so you
have to be able to convey thatjust from your voice.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I don't know if I have enough inflection for words
and and also this is just likea me thing, but when I get angry
and you know this I sound thesame.
You know this I sound the same.
I look the same, I sound thesame, the tone is the same.
I'm just angry.
But it still sounds like this.
I don't know how I would dothat.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
You know, I don't know, with enough practice.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I would love to.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, you could Get an acting coach Absolutely.
Maybe one day a little sidehustle you a book, thanks.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
So, keeping on our technology track here, social
media has entered the chat in ahuge way with books, whether
it's on bookstagram, book talk,even like ai art starting to
jump in there too, likepinterest, I see it.
Pinterest book quotes all overthe place.
Twitter, I think too.
I think is even I deactivatedmy twitter, so I don't know, but
I believe it.
Uh, I follow good reads onthere, so I see I see more book

(21:52):
content anyway, but especiallyum akatar or like sarah j mass.
Obviously it's just likeeverywhere, but even I saw jj
watt started reading akatar umon twitter.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
I saw it on twitter.
Many celebrities are reading itright now, which we wouldn't
know without social media.
Yep, I think there's somethingbrewing.
I hope there's somethingbrewing we've talked about.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's been like rumored or like confirmed, not
confirmed for like the longesttime the meeting with margot
robbie and sarah j.
Oh, you know, something's goingon there.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
But social media is cool.
What do you Pros and cons yeah,pros and cons of social media.
What do you like about it?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Pros.
I think it's easy to find newrecommendations because they're
just all over the place Peopleconstantly talking about their
books, what they like, what theydon't like.
So you kind of find people thathave similar book tastes to you
and so you learn to trust, liketheir recommendations, because
there's so many options outthere, there's so many books,
there's so many options thatit's like overwhelming.

(22:53):
So when you find somebody thatcan like, truly like, that you
trust to recommend a book.
It helps narrow down thatdecision making so much quicker.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
So it definitely helps with that when we're
saying how many books do youthink are in the world?
Oh my god, I don't even know,you know what was that one
debate that was like are theremore doors or chairs or whatever
?
Doors or wheels, I think ohyeah, yeah, doors or wheels.
What could we?
What's a book comparison?
Are there more books or sharks?
I don't know books books, books, for sure yeah no, there have

(23:25):
to be.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Even if, like thinking about like all the
books that we lost in, like thelibrary of alexandria when it
burned down, like that existedprior to a history thing.
Where was this?
I now you're testing me.
Um, I want to say it was ingreece, or like rome, like
sometimes it was around likethat time period.
Like it was in Greece or likeRome, like sometimes it was
around like that time period.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Like 60%.
Sure it was like the RomanEmpire kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, but it was like this massive library where
basically all of the knowledgenot all, but like where they
tried to keep all of theknowledge of the world in like
this one spot and it burned.
I think it was like during again, historians, don't come after
me, I'm working off of verylimited knowledge that I'm
trying to remember from goingthrough really spaceship earth

(24:10):
at epcot but you could sayanything right now and I would
be like, oh my god, I don'tbelieve you it was either, like
the romans, like takeover kindof thing, like invasion and so
like, somehow they got lost,destroyed some sort of war
situation, um, and it got, uh,set on fire, like on purpose,

(24:33):
until, like, all of it went andburnt when they tried to, like
the scholars at that time triedto, yeah, salvage as much as
they could, save as many as theycould.
But just to imagine, like, howmuch knowledge we've lost from
that too, that like we wouldhave had to like make up for,
rediscover again that or maybethere's even things out there
that we don't even know at thistime, that we could have known

(24:54):
aliens exactly.
Who knows who knows what was inthose things that we don't know
now, as it's another one of myroman empires, I think about a
lot.
Every time I I go throughSpaceship Earth at Epcot we pass
by and talk about the burningof the Library of Alexandria.
I'm like, what do we not knownow?
What do we not know?
Anyway, that was a big tangent,I'm sorry.

(25:15):
Good, I love the tangents.
I'll go talk about whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Anyway, it is easy to find lots of books.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Easy to find lots of books online.
You can come across other booksyou might not have seen
otherwise, because I kind of gointo that, so it's like new
recommendations or genres.
Obviously, we're big fantasyreaders, but maybe there's a
nonfiction that gets thrown outthere that becomes super popular
that you would have neverpicked up regardless.

(25:49):
Well, even the Nightingale I hadnever heard of it until my
friend emily was reading it, andthat one I saw on goodreads um
which is another form of socialmedia absolutely, yeah, there's
like so many out there that likeif you were without social
media, you just kind of getstuck in like looking for the
fantasy you would never hearabout or know about some of
these other books outside yourrealm for you to like test out.
Yeah, um, and obviously likethe sense of community, like
good reads we've talked about inthat last episode.

(26:11):
You have all the differentfandoms, all the sarah j mass
book memes, all the memes I lovememes you get all the like
funny ones about just like manymemes to each other.
So many, so many tiktoks to eachother.
Um, yeah, it's just like fun.
You get a lot of it.
Is that sense of community forlike pros for it, what about?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
you like positives.
Yeah, I feel the exact same way, kind of like the same things
you said.
I love that people are sharingtheir favorites.
Um, like so many people, sofeel so passionately about books
and so it's cool to see likewhat they love or people that
you would have never guessedlike the same books as you.
That's also been cool.
I just added a bunch ofcoworkers on Goodreads, Um, and

(26:52):
it's cool seeing what they'veread.
I'm like, oh my gosh.
You know I don't know them aswell, Cause we work together,
but I'm like wow, we like thingstogether.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
It almost gives you a way to like know about
somebody's personality a littlebit more.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, and it's like you know you make new friends
that way, which is cool.
I like that there are so manyrelatable and hilarious memes.
Oh yeah, people are funny.
They are so funny, so creative.
Some of these TikToks have melike cackling and also like they
make me feel like validated,like the whole the spongebob

(27:27):
worm that I've mentioned.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
With akatar, I'm like yes, I'm not the only one you
know so yeah, I mean, I like howyou can relate as well.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Absolutely that's a big thing.
And then also something that'scool.
Um, what kind of niche.
And actually I've neverpartaked in this, it's not
necessarily my thing, but Ithink it's cool book merch, like
social media, so much book.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
How did I not even think of I know you are a huge
book.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I don't have any book merch, but I think it's like
it's cool, um, and it's neat,because then it's another way
for you to just like advertiseyour favorite things, you know
absolutely another creativeoutlet, another way to express
yourself.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Oh my gosh, I'm so mad myself.
I own so many t-shirts.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I know they're cute.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
No that's a great.
That's a great point too, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
As for cons for social media, what are your
thoughts there?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Bad recommendations.
So, so you know, people feel sopassionately and you're like,
oh my gosh, they love it.
Let me give it a try.
But then it's judgment yeah,but then like it's not for me,
so that would be like a badrecommendation for me.
But you don't necessarily know,because there's so many books,
um spoilers oh my gosh, so somany spoilers.

(28:43):
It's like you've got to closeyour eyes.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I will say I was really nervous for the third
Crescent City book to come outwith spoilers, but I haven't
gotten any knock on wood so far,because everybody's been really
good about labeling things orlike giving the warning before
you see something.
So I really appreciate thatpeople are starting to become
more aware of that.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I am feeling freer with Sarah J Mack.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Nothing can harm me.
Now I can see anythingliterally.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I'm like try and spoil something.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I know it all.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
But so spoilers, those obviously bother me, even
when they're little ones, like Iknow they're not necessarily
saying anything, but whenthey're like my favorite book
boyfriends and they say names ofcharacters that like I don't
necessarily know, like, oh, likethey're gonna be the book
boyfriend, like I try like ifit's not a name I recognize or
if I know it's from a book Ihaven't read, I try to like

(29:38):
scroll really fast because I'mlike I don't want to know, like
anything.
So those are cons.
And then also it's kind of likesurprisingly a saturated
environment, like it's niche,but saturated at the same time.
Like once you're in it, it'slike it's all you see.
And then sometimes it is a lotof the same stuff and, like you
know, we're we're at fault tothat too.

(30:00):
We are, I think we've mentionedit in every episode.
We love Sarah J Maas, we loveher books, and those are all
over the frickin' place.
So sometimes it's like, wow,like I've seen this meme seven
times on different accounts, yep, which it's okay, but it's like
I didn't realize that therewould be so many Right.
And sometimes I feel like a lotof the spicier books are the

(30:23):
ones that are highly, highlylike, publicized on social media
.
Which is fine, Like love, a bitof spice.
But I'm not.
I'm not a five chili pepperperson.
No, I don't think I'm a threechili pepper person.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I couldn't even tell you, cause it's funny, cause
everybody's opinions aredifferent on that what some
people think is a three chilipepper.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I'm like this is a 10 chili pepper.
It's like a five.
I'm like this is a ten chilipepper.
I'm like whoa Yep, absolutely,or vice versa.
They're like this is so spicyand I'm like they just kiss yeah
right, it wasn't even tongue,it wasn't even a make out.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yes, no, absolutely.
Yeah, I think it does.
It gets into.
That's one of mine as well.
Yeah, it gets into.
Like trying to make your waythrough because because,
obviously, if you like spice andsmut and whatever, then that's
like great for you.
Like not to take that away fromyou, but for people like us who
it's like not what we're tryingto read all the time, it's hard

(31:18):
to like get through the muddywaters of it all to find real
recommendations and that feelshard.
Sorry, I didn't mean to cut youoff and sometimes it's hard too
because it's like I do likespice, but it's just it's too
much and like it's too saturatedlike I can't get out of it yep,
absolutely, and so when you'retrying to find like those books
that don't necessarily have it,or like more of like about the

(31:40):
adventure and the story, it'sreally hard to like get through
all of that to find it, becausethat's all anybody wants to talk
about, because that's what'spopular and like the rage right
now yeah, I totally agree withyou there.
I also totally agree with thespoilers.
They're constant, everywhere itis.
It's like even when you're noteven trying because, like we're

(32:00):
spoiler alert for throne ofglass if you haven't read that,
maybe skip over like for 10seconds for this part um, seeing
things that mention like alienand like alien and rowan or
whatever.
But when you're on the partscene with selena and rowan
you're like it almost kind oflike gives a way.
The big part, which I assumedanyway when I was reading it,
that that worked out, but stilllike it gives it away in a

(32:22):
certain way, too, or confusing,or confusing or whatnot, I don't
know.
Just a lot of things out therefor spoilers that are really
frustrating.
Yeah, a lot of dudrecommendations, and that's
where it really gets into tryingto find people that you Like
the same things you like.
Yes, that like the same thingsyou like.
But it's hard to say that too,because you want to branch out.
Yes, yeah, and try new things.
But, and try new things, butthere's so many books in the

(32:43):
world.
You don't want to waste yourtime on something that's not
going to be your cup of tea whenyou could be reading something
else that you would really enjoy.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
So it's that hard balance between it all,
Especially because we'rephysical book people too.
So it's like to go out and buya book to then not like it and
then you have it.
It's like ugh.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Sometimes that's hard , absolutely, yeah, especially
and I've gotten to the point Iused to be a I have to finish
this book, no matter what person, because I bought it and like
I'm gonna get through it, like Idon't want to like put it down.
I have overcome that nowbecause that, thank you.
Um, it truly was the timingoutweighing the need to mark it

(33:28):
as finished or done, kind of forme, because there's only so
much time that I have to read,there's only so much time in the
day.
It sucks when you do spend themoney and you buy a book and
then you're only like a third ofthe way through.
You realize you're not going tofinish this book, so you like

(33:50):
have to like put it away, set itaside, and it's like a waste.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
And that's hard, I think, for you too, because we
were just talking about.
You don't like reading reviews,goodreads reviews before, so
it's even harder for you tofigure out like wait, will I
actually like this?
Are there?
Things that are going to comeup.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Absolutely, I try to do like the TikTok reviews or
like people.
If I know that there's a bookout there that I like, I'll try
to see, like, if other peoplelike like it or recommending it
from like my people that Ifollow.
And I do look at the Goodreadsstars to see.
So if I find something, andthen I go on there and it's like
two stars, I'm like, okay, well, I'm not gonna read that, but

(34:26):
yeah, no, exactly.
I don't read the reviews, though, and it can get difficult,
because I've definitely comeacross that whereas so many
books have been like, reallyrecommended, everybody loves
them.
I go pick them up and it's a donot finish so frustrating, yeah
.
So, yeah, definitely a lot ofpros and cons with it, and
they're kind of all theintertwined with it too, where
it's like what's also a pro is acon with, like the

(34:48):
recommendations kind of thing,or um, the memes are also can be
spoilers, so they all go handin hand with technology.
Really, yeah, it's kind offunny how they all connect.
Everything connects in thecircle of life it does in the
story of life.
But another thing that's beenreally like taking the social

(35:09):
media world by storm is ai art,which I know it's like not like
fan art is not a new concept byany means, but with the rise of
ai, I feel like that's becomereally popular and there's so
many different fan accounts thatcreate AI art for, especially,
fantasy books or so you see allthe time for like Sarah J Maas

(35:30):
books or, um, even like fourthwing, when fourth wing was like
on that super high too.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I haven't seen any of those, yet I'm trying to stay
so so shielded.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Now I skip them and it gets into my thoughts for AI.
But I'm kind of curious.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I want to hear your thoughts first um, so my
thoughts are that I don't reallyhave any.
Okay, like I just I don't mindit, it doesn't really affect me
much.
Um, it's neat to see what AIcomes up with and like how it
matches my brain, but I'm I'mvery quick to be like if it
doesn't match, I'll be like,okay, well, I think differently,

(36:05):
like I don't know, but I willsay, when someone is so die hard
and this is, I guess, less aiand more just like fan cast in
general, yep um, or I guess, aithe look of a certain one or
person, character, um, and theycan't accept any other ideas
that that gets to me sometimesI'm like all right, chill out.
I know everyone just likepraises this one photo.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Right, it's like the one that you see everywhere and
it's not even close to yourproof.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, we're thinking of the same one.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, but so sometimes, yeah, that bugs me.
I'm like chill out, Like yeahit's not going to be that.
That is not real Right.
Set the set the standards lower.
But no, for the most part itdoesn't really affect me.
I don't.
I honestly don't see that manyai ones I see more.
Channing tatum should be thisperson like oh interesting, I'm

(36:54):
the opposite.
Oh, I see way more of like.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
This is my fan cast, yeah and less ai well, I need to
start sending you my ai and youstart sending me your fan cast,
and then we'll have them both.
Perfect, I definitely get more.
Gotta fix our algorithms, yep,but it is.
It's like one of those.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
You see one or two and you go onto that page and
then all of a sudden, you likeone and then you have 17 in a
row, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
So yeah, I see a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Do you like them or what are your thoughts?
I do?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I have a little again .
Everything's like a littlemixed for me.
So I enjoy looking at AI artfor books that I've read so
already, like you know theACOTAR series or Throne of Glass
.
Like I enjoy seeing those and Ican appreciate them.
It is incredible what thesepeople can do with AI and what
they create.
It still scares me a little bit, but I'm trying to get over it

(37:43):
no, it is.
Send me back to boy meets worldno, it is terrifying because
some of them are super hyperrealistic.
It's crazy, but I mean likeshout out to them.
They're so talented and it'scool seeing what everybody
imagined for those characters.
And it's fun when you comeacross one that like fits the
image in your head like almostexactly, because it's something

(38:05):
that you can only imagine.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
So now that you're like physically seeing it, it's
like brings it to life almost ina whole new way yeah, I will
say it does help me, becausesometimes when I picture
characters they're like blurry,like it's like I kind of have an
idea, but I'm not sure.
So then it like refines it yeah, I'm like chris, like oh okay,
I can picture that, yep exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
But on the flip side of that, I try to avoid anything
that I haven't read because itcan totally ruin your perception
and your imagination whenyou're reading, because
everybody imagines things sodifferently that it's like what
most people think of, for likeone character, I could think of
something completely different,entirely different.
But if I go in already havingthat image, it takes away from

(38:51):
my interpretation of that.
So I really try to avoid like,yeah, books that I haven't read,
and if I, if I can, um, even ifI see things that like I don't
recognize, I just immediatelyskip.
I don't even try to look at thecaption of it, um, just in case
to avoid or whatever, yeah, but, and.
And then to get back on to thespicy thing, it's kind of taken

(39:12):
over that too, which I getfrustrated, because it's
definitely more the fans, lessthe artists what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (39:20):
oh, by like hyper sexualizing the characters.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Well, it's where, like the, it's become really
popular here recently.
I've seen with artists that Ifollow where they make like a
portrait of a character and thenthey say that to access the
like not safe from work version,you know, like subscribe to my
Patreon because people wereconstantly hounding them AI,

(39:45):
nudes, what?
Okay, we're on different.
We're on different feeds, I meanobviously I don't see it, but
like it's become like the thingand it's because people were
constantly asking for thesethings or like pushing them,
like, oh, I want to see thisscene, I want to see this thing
like chapter 55, like I want tosee that scene that it's like
okay, well, I mean no and nohate to the artists they're

(40:07):
getting their bag, they'regetting their coin.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I totally understand it from their side it sounds
like they have a good clientele.
People enjoy it.
But exactly you do?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
you boo, but I'm like , I don't.
It's like and it's constant andit's not like I'm seeing it.
But it's annoying when you'relike seeing a post and all of a
sudden it's like oh, if you wantto see the not safe for work
version, like, why is thatnecessary?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
like that reminds me I don't I might be singling
myself out, but when I did havea twitter back in like high
school, when you would scrolland you would see that like
someone liked something orsomeone retweeted something, and
it's some like very explicit,like gif, and I'm like whoa,
like I don't want, want to seeit.
That reminds me of that likewhoa it does.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
It gives you, just it makes you.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Even though I'm not seeing it, it still makes me
feel like well, yeah, and for me, spicy stuff is like it's nice
and personal and intimate in mybook, like, yeah, I think that
just makes it too real and alsoa mythical thing like that.
I don't know, I don't knowbecause we talk about like
wanting a TV show and stuff, butI think because I'm picturing

(41:11):
this cartoon or AI version to beway more explicit than what a
TV show would be, or a movie.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
It takes it to that next level that you're like you,
just really you're not at leastfor us, we're not looking for
that.
That is my one thing with AIthat I just I don't like, I
don't appreciate it.
But I do appreciate the artbehind it.
It is kind of cool to see yeah,have like taken this new
technology and completely runwith it in this whole new world
of fan art yeah and again, ifyou like that, that is so good,

(41:42):
I'm so glad that they have thatavailable for you so but yeah,
it's kind of cool, yeah, ai Imean, but it's also scary, ai, I
don't know.
That's a whole, whole otherthing yeah, yeah, that is crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Well, I think so.
I try to not have social mediaon my phone during the week and
then I use it on the weekends iswhat I try to do.
It doesn't always happen, butso I don't necessarily think I
follow like a ton of bookaccounts, even on like social
media, but I feel like you dofollow a lot or like you have
more than me like for me.
I was thinking about like shoutout time.

(42:13):
Yeah, for I was thinking aboutlike what or who are my favorite
bookish accounts?
And my all-time favorite has tobe Lazy Girl Library Instagram.
They're my favorite too.
No, but I could really onlythink of two that and they were
only Instagram ones I couldthink of.
I don't follow any book thingson TikTok, I just see a ton of

(42:36):
memes.
But on Instagram there's thisInstagram page called read with
a cup of joe, and actually thisis someone who I met through a
mutual friend.
It's like her book account andit just has such a pretty
aesthetic and I just love howshe themes it and stuff like
she's got a good grid.

(42:56):
I don't know, it's just likeit's very pleasing to the eye
exactly jinx, um.
But I also like uh, she'sposted like her tabbing method
before and like the colors of it, like matched the colors of the
cover and.
I liked how she organized it,and I've never tried tabbing,
but one day I might want to, andI think I would probably try to

(43:18):
do the same one that she does.
That's really cool.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I've never seen somebody like break down how
they tab before I'll have toshow it to you after.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
But again, that was read with a cup of joe on
instagram.
And then another one is I thinkit's Tara or Tata Life Pages
and that one she has very fastvideos, kind of like TikToks,
but on Instagram, and they willget me hooked on a book concept
and so I like those.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Where it's like those fast-paced image kind of slides
, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Or where they flip the pages in front of the camera
oh yeah Things turn.
I don't know, people get reallygood with their transitions, but
she does it.
She has like a really coollibrary, so like her whole back
wall is like shelves and it isfull of books.
So I don't know.
She just seems like fun and shehas a lot of recommendations on
there, but at the same timeshe's not too overwhelming.

(44:12):
Like sometimes, like whenpeople will show like seven
different books in one video,I'm like it goes too fast.
Yeah, I'm too confused, likeit's too overwhelming.
So I like that she'll focus onlike one book per post, right?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
That's nice.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Those are two for me.
Yeah, what about you?
I've got a lot more than two,yeah, yeah, I figured.
That's why I was like, let me,let me name drop my my people
real quick and then let you takethe floor.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Um you know I I have quite a few and that's because I
am on social media a lot andbook talk bookstagram has taken
over my feeds entirely, so I geta lot of the content.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
You send them to me.
It's true, I don't need to lookfor them you said I do spam
darby's tiktok for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Um, on instagram, though, my favorite ai artist is
called dream world dweller.
On insta, at dream worlddweller, uh, she, her art, I
think is the most captivating tome.
Um, I do follow her patreonbecause she creates, like, all
these really cool wallpapers foryou to use.

(45:14):
I'll show you them afterwards.
They're beautiful, like sceneryones too.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Scenery Okay, cool, she does a lot of scenery which
I love.
We didn't really touch on AIscenery.
I think we're mainly touchingon characters.
But just real quick, I do lovethe AI scenery.
I think I like that more thanthe characters Absolutely,
because the worlds are wayharder for me to like envision
Right.
So those are cool.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
And it's like fun seeing again all the different
like interpretations.
So that's what I like abouthers too.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Because she'll come up with like five different
versions of like one, like thecabin in the woods for Akatar.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah.
She'll come up with fivedifferent versions of it, oh
that, so you can kind of likefind the one that aligns with
you the most.
Yeah, oh cool and I love it.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
dream, dream world dweller, yes oh, okay I'm gonna
go look, she has some great.
She does do portraits as welland they are very good.
Some of them I agree with, someof them I don't.
That's just ai and it's funnyseeing all like the differences.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Like if she posts like uh will she do multiple of
the same?

Speaker 2 (46:10):
character too, doing different things.
They won't be like to back, butlike you can see on her feed,
like kind of how the charactersare different too depending on
how AI interpreted it at thattime.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Oh, I'm so intrigued now.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yes, highly recommend her page if you're looking for
some good AI.
My favorite brand on Instagramis a local one.
For us it's a little indiebookshop called Writer's Block.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Bookstore.
I should have put this one onthere.
I do follow them.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I do like them.
They have great content.
I feel like it's very engaging,it's very current, but it's not
overwhelming and it's not likepushy, like sales kind of.
It's just really fun.
It's like what you think offrom an indie bookstore.
I just really enjoy their page.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
And they have events that I want to try and go to.
Sorry that's an off-topic thing, but yeah, I do like they have
a good bookstore, they do.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, we should go to some of their events sometime.
Yeah, we should, but shout outthem.
They have a great page.
Now getting into my favoriteInstagram influencers Kristen
Williams at my Friends AreFiction she has an immaculate
fantasy vibe, similar to thegirl you were talking about.
Her library is extensive butthe way that she edits, like the

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filter, it's all very fantasy.
It's kind of like more dark andmoody.
She at one point took all ofher books and built like this
throne out of books and like didlike this whole photo shoot and
, like you know, fantasy gownlike on this throne of books.
It was so well done.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I just really enjoy seeing her content, when she
comes up with very creative,very fantasy, and I love it I
feel like a lot of fantasy bookinfluencers play a lot of dress
up and I, I want to get into it.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yes, cosplay a little bit, yeah I want to twirl
around a fun dress, yeah, butshe's at.
My friends are fiction um.
One of the people I've followedfor the longest time it's her
name's logan at logan's libraryshe does mostly romance so we
don't necessarily she does likelike sarah j mass and we do have

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some similarities in books, butless for recommendations for me
personally because I'm not ahuge romance girly um.
But her just like overall vibe,her content it's just like
really inviting.
It gives me warm feelings.
She just seems like a reallycool down-the-earth kind of girl
, like somebody I would reallylove to hang out with.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
She's got like texas girl vibes kind of I feel like
all girls named logan are coolgirls.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yes, I don't know.
I came across her on TikTok.
I ran into her one day.
She is on TikTok.
She just doesn't post on thereas much and everything I think
on her TikTok it's also a realon Instagram.
So I mostly keep up with her onInstagram and obviously she
posts more content on there.
It's just.
It brings me joy when I see herstuff because it's just like

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really fun and happy vibes andshe's cool and she comes up with
cool concepts and, yeah, reallike her a lot Nice.
My last favorite Instagraminfluencer is a girl called
Alice at Wonderland Book Corner.
Alice, yeah, I know.
Okay, I see you she, yeah, Iknow, okay, creative, creative,

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um, she has again theaesthetically pleasing kind of
feed where she does like thebook stacks all in like the same
kind of color, hue, vibe kindof thing.
For me as a visual personbecause I judge books by their
cover for sure, that's wherethat's what that does for me is
like it's less about what thebooks are about or like the
recommendations, it's more aboutlike the vibes and the feel and

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then seeing like a reallypretty cover, I'm like, oh, I'm
interested in that one, you know, kind of like dress shop, it's
like window shopping for books.
So that's what I like.
That account for, yeah, that'snice.
And then just a few from TikTokTikTok influencers.
There's Livi Isom.
It's at Livi Isom.

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I like her recommendation style.
She's cute little blonde withglasses.
Oh, no, sorry, different girl.
That's the next one.
Livi Isom does the stacks ofbooks and where she's like, if
you like this series, she does,yeah, just like she does a bunch
of them in back-to-back order.
So she's like if you like thisbooks, uh, these books, then you

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should try this series.
If you like vampires and youread this series, then you might
also like this vampire seriesand she does like a bunch of
them, but she gets more in depththan like what I'm talking
about.
Um, sit down a little more andthey're more like from the ones
I've seen, like where I've readboth what she's talking about
and the recommended.
They're very.
They're very in tune with eachother.

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So I kind of trust herrecommendations.
And then she does a bunch ofdifferent types of books too.
So I like her.
But they're quick, yeah onestoo.
They're not like the super longdrawn out-out like
recommendations.
They're very like here's this,here's this, here's this.
So I like that.
Neat Anna at Indiana Reads is alittle blonde girl with glasses

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.
She has really great taste inher books as well.
But it's more herrecommendations as like longer
form, like talking about thespecific books, like why I like
this, why I don't like this.
We have similar kind of vibesand how we treat books and like
review books and like ourthought process on a lot of
things.

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So I trust her reviews I like Ilike her reviews a lot and, last
but not least, probably myfavorite influencer, book talk
bookstagram influencer of alltime.
His name is daniel alexander.
You sent me a lot of his stuffI send you a lot of his stuff.
It's at dale c sander um.
He's the one that does like theactar in 60 seconds or like

(51:43):
funny skits, but he's very likeself-aware pokes fun at like all
the social media female maincharacter like he'll do, like a
skit about that exactly.
Or it's like oh, I'm lost in thewoods, I don't know what to do.
Big strong man comes out kindof thing he does, like those
types like olav short stories orwhatever.
That's exactly what it is it is.

(52:04):
Yeah, it's exactly what it isand I love both of those.
Yeah, his, his contents, and helike he pokes fun, like I said
at, like, yeah, like ourcommunity in general too, and
like tells people like calm down, yeah no, it's fine, don't
worry about it.
Like, would you like leavepeople alone for what they do,
like when they don't like thething?

(52:24):
Um so love, love, love him.
I do.
I spam everybody with his yeahwho reads books, he's great I.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
That reminds me we didn't really touch on.
I feel like book talk andsocial media with books has
really expanded the male bookcommunity which is fun it is fun
.
I'm happy for them.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
It's curious, like for me, seeing some of their
book recommendations.
Um, because, like a big onethat I know it's like I don't
want to say it's the maleversion of, because that's not
right, because there's a plentyof females who like this
author's books.
But Brandon Sanderson is a verypopular author, fantasy author,
who I've heard like ravingreviews about from everybody.

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But it's almost like the SarahJ Maas, but more geared towards
like a male brain, a maleperspective, without like all
the like fairies and like funfrilly stuff that we like and
ours.
But I really want to try them.
But it's fun seeing because,like I learned about him from
male book influencers on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
It'll be so neat when I see like a review of a
straight guy and he's like Iwon't say the names of
characters, but he'll be like,oh my gosh, I love this guy.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
He'll be like get it or like I'm taking the notes.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
It makes me laugh.
I'm like, yeah, take notes.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah, yeah oh, I love it.
So shout out everybody.
We'll try to tag all thesepeople on our instagram so you
can go follow them too um checkthem out.
Give them some love.
Uh, there's a lot of greatinfluencers.
If you have people that youreally like, let us know.
Send us your thoughts, opinions, favorite influencers, send us

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funny memes and TikToks.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
You'll find we love them so much.
If you have ideas for us tomake a funny meme or TikTok, let
us know we're a little lazy,but we'll try.
I guess, kind of summing up ourthoughts.
Social media, I think, is veryimpactful and very helpful, but
like anything, there's alsonegatives to it too.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
There's pros and cons to everything.
Like I said last episode, welive in a gray scale, yeah, so
there's always going to bepositives, negatives.
It's navigating what's best foryou and finding your own little
niche your own little path,your own little community.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
What works, what doesn't?
What about your borrows andreturns?
This week, okay, crazy, I didfinish a book.
I finished the emily henry book.
Uh, people, we meet on vacation, so now I'm all caught up with
emily henry besides her brandnew one that came out, so
excited about that.
But this book was really good.
I gave it a solid four stars.
I really don't think emilyhenry can do wrong.
Um, really don't think EmilyHenry can do wrong.
I don't think the story wassuper like realistic, of like an

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actual like.
I don't know if a romance wouldactually play out that way or
all the like little side thingsthat happen, but I still enjoyed
it.
I definitely wanted to keepreading it and again, I feel
like I always say this, but shejust makes me want to flirt.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I'm like, oh, it's so good and gets you in the mood
yeah, she makes me so giddy.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I'm like ah, like, yeah, that was such a funny
comeback, I don't know, sassyand fun, yeah, so that is one of
my returns.
And then my big borrow isFourth Wing, so like.
So, like I said at thebeginning of the episode, I'm
only one chapter in, but I amintrigued and we shall see.
I guess I'll kind of leave itat that.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
All right, I don't have any returns.
Still Haven't had the time,haven't gotten through it.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
That's okay.
You're doing all of the editingtechnology and the Emily Henry
book was audiobook, so yeah, I'mworking.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I'm really trying to finish my Wild by Cheryl Strayed
.
On just one of my borrowed, I'mdoing an audio.
I listen to it on my commute,really enjoying it.
I don't know why this one'staking me longer than most
audiobooks to get through.
It.
Just kind of is it happened.
But I'm still enjoying that.

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I was really trying to get backinto Circe by Madeline Miller
because it's been on hold sinceI was reading the Nightingale.
Yeah, I don't think I'm goingto.
I was going to try to finish itbefore we got into Fourth Wing.
I don't think I'm going to beable to because I do, that's
okay.
I want to give it.
You don't want to rush itExactly, I want to enjoy it.

(56:31):
It exactly, I want to enjoy it.
I want to give it the fair timethat it deserves to like,
appreciate and enjoy it so andnot just like, try to get
through it as quickly aspossible before I can get on to
the next book.
So I think I'm not going topush myself.
I'm still going to keep thatone on hold on the back burner
and then just go straight in thefourth wing yeah then we'll go
back to cersei so good, yeah, no, we want to read for fun.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
We don't want to rush things Because, again, this is
such reading is such a gooddecompressing thing.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
I don't know about decompressing for me personally,
because my heart rate goes upentirely too high.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
That's true, it does depend on the book, depends on
the scene, but I just mean, likeyou, don't want it to feel like
homework.
Yes, Read it at your own paceyeah, we'll get through it
eventually.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I'll keep you guys updated, but if you see that
consistently still under myborrows, don't judge me.
It's okay, we're not eventalking about the self-help book
that I haven't touched inmonths.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
I just don't bring it up anymore.
I'm gonna finish it eventually.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
It's fine, we're fine .
We'll get there in our own lazytime, yeah hopefully by the end
of the year.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
That's the goal.
There we go, but I think that'skind of a wrap for this episode
.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
It is.
I enjoyed this.
I enjoyed our little discussionhere and getting to hear your
thoughts.
I feel like I have so manythoughts that I really enjoy
your perspective and gettingyour perspective on a lot of
these things.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Well, I agree, because sometimes I feel like I
don't think about things enoughand so you give me more thoughts
and that helps a lot.
And so I didn't know how much Iwas going to like talking about
technology and social media,because, as much as I'm freaking
addicted to it, I like don'tlove it.
Like I'm saying I wish we couldgo back to where we didn't have
social media sometimes orthings weren't so in our face.

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But this was this was a reallyfun conversation and I liked it.
Yeah, let us know your thoughtsAt Lazy Girl.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Library.
Look up AI people.
If you find any more goodaccounts, send them my way.
You know I'll be looking atthem.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Thanks for listening, guys.
We'll see you again next time.
Bye, bye.
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