The Worst Best Man by Lucy Score - Book Talk

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Ever felt like a book's description promised one thing, but the pages delivered another? That's the heart of our discussion on Lucy Score's "The Worst Best Man," where Darbi and Mikayla peel back the layers of this romance with a critical, yet lighthearted touch. They talk about everything from wedding hijinks to character conundrums, and ponder the unintended paths characters can take, even to the surprise of their creator. So, whether you're here for the book banter, to find your next read, or just to be part of our Lazy Girl Library community, this episode is your invitation to join the conversation!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Lazy Girl Library, the podcast, where
reading is a pleasure andcaptivating adventures happen
from the comfort of your couch.
I'm your host, darby, and I'mMikaela, and if you've ever
spent more time rearranging yourbookshelf than your priorities,
then you, my friend, are in theright place.
Awesome, well, hey guys,welcome to our first book talk

(00:35):
and our second full episode.
Woohoo.
I just want to start off thisepisode by saying thank you so
much for all the kind words andsupport that we've gotten so far
.
It can kind of be vulnerable,you know, putting yourself out
there, but you guys have beenjust so kind.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's been really amazing seeing all the comments
and all the getting all thetexts and what not from all of
our listeners.
It's been so nice and sorewarding already.
So thank you for the support.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
The fact that we have listeners.
That's you guys.
That's wild.
So it actually wants to listento us.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
But yeah, this is our first book talk and we are so
excited.
Well, actually, I don't knowhow excited I am to talk about
this book, but we're going to betalking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
It'll be an interesting one, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, so the book that we read in February was the
Worst Best man by Lucy Score,and so kind of.
What this episode will entailis basically talking all about
this book.
So our thoughts on the book.
We're going to answer some bookclub-esque questions about the
book and kind of just give ourratings for it.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
This is like Goodreads audio version kind of
thing.
Basically, yeah, and it's a loteasier for me to vocalize my
thoughts than type it out, soyou're going to hear it all and
this is a great little snippetof what we talk about on the
daily all the time.
Which inspired this podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, this truly is book club.
This is exactly what wouldhappen if you were sitting with
us on the couch instead ofsitting on your own couch
listening to us.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Hi all, future McKayla here editing the pod.
I realized as editing this thatit might be helpful to add some
context to the book for thoseof you not looking to read but
still want to follow along.
So I'm going to read the bookdescription for you, just to add
a bit of context.
So the worst, best man, thebride is a doll, the groom is

(02:31):
the perfect gentleman, but therest of the wedding party?
They're the stuff of nightmares.
Rich check, vapid, double check, entitled not enough checks in
the world, but made of honor.
Francesca Borunski takes herduties seriously.
Kidnapped groom, she's got thisrude attendees, just watch her

(02:52):
handle them.
So when she meets the best manwith a big attitude and an even
bigger checkbook, yeah, there'sno way she's going to let that
pretentious, judgmental jackholeruin her friends wedding, no
matter how sexy he is.
At least that was the plan.
Aiden Kilbourne doesn't do longterm relationships.
He's busy ruling the businessworld and has yet to find a

(03:16):
woman he can get along with formore than a month.
Conquering the unconquerable isbasically his bread and butter,
and he hasn't met a challengethat he can't win.
But Francesca Borunski, thissmart mouth girl from Brooklyn,
may just be his downfall.
And now back to our regularlyscheduled program.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, on that note, let's hop on in Warning, while
spoilers ahead, please head tothe description and show notes
to find where to skip to.
You have been warned.
So, mikaela, what were yourinitial thoughts on the book?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
If I had one word to describe this book, I would say
it was lackluster.
Honestly, I think you and I canboth agree it did not live up
to expectations at all.
When you read the back of it itjust didn't match the whole
story.
It did, but it didn't.
Because it was one of thosethings that when I first read
the back of the book I had athought of what it was going to

(04:12):
be like, and then when you'rereading it you're like this is
absolutely nothing like the backof the book.
But then today I went back andread the back of the book again,
I'm like well, I guess it kindof is Okay, yeah, I was going to
mention that later.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
But yes, I feel the same way when I read the back of
the book.
Maybe I just like skimmed it,but I was like very excited.
I thought I knew what I wasgoing to read.
And then we started reading andI was like what is it?
Like this is not the book thatI wanted to read or thought I
was going to be reading.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
So it definitely.
Yeah, it threw me for a loop,for sure.
I had a bunch of theories as Ido about what was going to be
happening throughout this book,in which none of them happened,
but that's because reallynothing happened in this book.
No, yeah, it was prettydisappointing.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I read like multiple, like short stories,
yes, like it felt like it wasn'tone cohesive story to me.
It felt like two differentstories, and so this definitely
wasn't my favorite, but itwasn't my least favorite book
either.
I've definitely read worsebooks, but I think it just.
It's hard when yourexpectations aren't met, and my

(05:20):
expectations were not met.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I think that's a great like way to encapsulate
this book.
That's the right word.
Maybe I made a word up.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I know the meaning of your made up word Perfect.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
As long as that works , is it?
Yeah, expectations were not met.
It's not that it was a bad book, but you go in with certain
expectations and when they'renot met, then you get really
disappointed.
I think, yeah, that's exactlywhat happened with this book.
So did you like, did you have afavorite part?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
though for it.
So for this podcast, I tried tothink of a favorite part.
I really liked the beginning ofthe book with the wedding
content, because that's what Ithought the book was going to be
about was about these twoindividuals and their
relationship throughout the likewedding process.
So that was my favorite partwas the wedding content in the

(06:11):
beginning of the book, becausethat's what closely resembled my
expectations for the book.
And I also did like the uniquetwist of there being a kidnap
thing during the wedding.
Like yes, that was like weirdto me and was like, okay, I
guess this is where we're going,but I still liked it because it
was still part of the wedding.
And then a little side note oflike things I liked about the

(06:33):
book I did like whenever Aideninteracted with Frankie's family
, because Aiden was just sosweet yeah, he was.
He was really sweet.
So I liked him like as acharacter, like he was nice,
yeah, but again I didn't thinkhe was going to be enough, so it
did take some getting used to,but I liked when he was like
with her family, especially herbrothers.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, so that was definitely my favorite part of
this whole book.
Aiden was such a sweetheart.
But no, I agree with you.
The true favorite part of thisbook was the wedding, I think,
because it reminded me so muchof like the ridiculous rom-coms
you used to watch where it'slike the hijinks that was
ensuing was so like out of thebox, crazy.

(07:15):
The fact that like the groomwas getting kidnapped and
Frankie's just like I'm going todress up as a maid and like go
in and like try to save him andthey're all like so nonchalant
about this entire thing andmaking it more dramatic than it
was.
And then you had the little kidthat was like taking on a dirt
bike.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
That was definitely like rom-com out of the random
character.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
And so, but like, even though it was so ridiculous
, and like, out there, that wasthe best part for me because it
was just kind of like it wasjust fun it was funny and it was
very much like like what wewere kind of like expecting with
the wedding.
but it was shocking how quicklythe wedding ended in the book
and I was kind of disappointedbecause if the rest of the
wedding was going to be likethat and have all the hijinks,
then that would have been, Ithink, a little bit more

(07:57):
enjoyable for me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
When we, or when I started reading it and I like it
literally jumped from likeengagement party to like wedding
and I was like whoa and I waslike the wedding's happening
right now.
I wonder how she's going tomake it last the whole book?
Yep, well, it doesn't.
It doesn't even last like tillhalfway.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yep, I thought and like, as we were reading, I'm
thinking like, okay, well, maybelike the kidnapping goes long
or something like that, and sothey have to reschedule the
wedding.
So then it's like all thehijinks before, like the real
wedding at the end.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, no, that was not.
I don't know if you want totalk about this now, but what
were some of your theories, ordo you want to talk about that
later?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I can talk about it now.
Yeah, I had.
Okay, there's one, there's onetheory that I really had that I
think I read far too much intoit but I haven't marked.
It was on page 137, at the endof the wedding, when she's
talking with Aiden and shebasically is like he's acting
like so nonchalant about thewhole situation, like it wasn't

(08:54):
that big a deal, like he like mybrother, wasn't going to hurt
Chip at all, like and taking mytime to like figure out what was
going to happen, or like how tolike gain leverage back from
his brother.
Basically, aiden was andFrankie's like yeah, but you
could have, you didn't know forsure that that was going to
happen.
Like you left your friend indanger for hours before like

(09:19):
going and doing anything aboutit to save him, just assuming
that he was going to be safe,and like assuming within your
family that these things,because it's like so normal for
you, but news flash, like it'snot normal.
I thought for sure the way thatthe author was writing about
this was foreshadowing thishappening with Frankie that they
were going to go through thislove story, that they are, like

(09:42):
you know, falling in love,whatever.
Then maybe they get into areally big fight and then,
whether it's the brother orsomebody else kidnaps Frankie as
leverage for Aiden like whetherit's for money, for business,
whatever but that she was goingto be an actual danger and that
Aiden was then going to have tolike face that and like figure
out how to like work fast to getFrankie back and to save

(10:05):
Frankie, because it wasforeshadowing the beginning.
So I was that's what I wasexpecting fully going into this.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
It was way better than what did happen with the
brother.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I don't know it was yeah.
So, and this is a great likelittle snippet into like my
brain and how my brain workswhen I'm reading as the
conspiracy theorist- butsometimes I didn't think twice.
It works against me thoughbecause it makes you, like even
more disappointed when thingsdon't work out.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, so I do think that the groom what was his name
?
Do you remember?
chip I think chip, I do thinkthat chip and Aiden could have
explained a little bit more toFrankie, like During the kidnap,
being that, like, oh, like,yeah, this is insane.
But like we know the guy likeit's fine, absolutely, she
definitely seemed a little morelike crazy during that because

(10:51):
like I don't know there was,there was some miscommunication.
Yeah, it could have been alittle less hectic once.
They did know, like that it wasright, brother well, they kind
of like just Skimmed over it.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Even at the end, when it like after the wedding and
chips, fine, and Aiden's liketrying to explain the Frankie
like how this is normal, theyleft the reader I felt like a
little bit more confused.
Like it kind of clears thingsup so you like can make
assumptions about like okay, Iguess this is a thing, but they
didn't like truly explain, likeyeah, the nuances of why this

(11:22):
was like this happens all thetime, or like tell another story
of when this has happenedbefore.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Kind of thing.
Yeah, also the fact thatFrankie was like seething at
Aiden for like not knowing, orfor knowing and not telling.
Yet chip was like clearly happy, like and they got married and
stuff, but she was still soangry it was like okay, you're
literally angry for no reason.
Everyone else has moved on,like it's fine.
Yep, absolutely, that was, Ithink, when it started to like

(11:48):
really dig at me like oh, she'sannoying.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, and I think that gets into both our least
favorite part of this book,which was Frankie.
She holds these grudges overpeople for so long and, like you
said, like chip and pru who aregetting married, like did not
hold it against Aiden whatsoever, which is like, yeah, you
should stick up for your friendto a point, but the whole such a

(12:14):
grudge and like to be so angrywith him for so long about this
like throughout the whole bookand, like I don't know, she just
was.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's just like it was ridiculous also like making
other people's problems your ownyes, no offense.
Like I don't know if you'retrying to be a good friend but
you're not, like that's not yourissue To hold on to.
Or like, in the end, likeAiden's whole like issue if he's
the one that had broken up chipand what's her name?
Prue, prue, yeah, sorry, sorry.

(12:43):
Like how he had made chip andprue break up and she was so
angry that like that felt likesuch, like that shouldn't have
been an issue.
And I get that prue was likeDepressed during that time.
Are really sad, but like thatwas pru's issue, not your own.
Sure you helped her, but like Idon't know, all of it seemed
like woe is me and it's like oh,the entire book.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
It was constant.
Well, and what I hated too ishow, like she was almost so like
Pretentious about it and likehow she's a working-class girl
and you know she had, she can'tafford all these luxuries or
whatever, but she's the onealmost like holding the grudge
about it or like having the chipon her shoulder about it,
whereas, like a lot of thepeople throughout the book did

(13:27):
not care, yeah, like theyweren't judging her for it.
She was judging herself for itor putting the judgment of
herself in other people where itdidn't exist.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
And there's a way to do that character.
But have it be graceful.
Still, like there are plenty oflike the billionaire tropes
where the girl is like veryproud of, like you know, having
to work for stuff but it comesoff way better than Franky King
off.
Like it just did not.
It did not Correlate so.
Frankie for sure was my leastfavorite part of this book, as

(13:56):
well as the fact that thewedding was over before Well and
I even started.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
She ruined.
Like one of my favorite tropestoo, because I love the
billionaire's trope and it was asurprising version of it,
because Aiden what didn't end upbeing like you know, the bad
guy that they normally are yeah,but she just took me so much
out of the romance because shewas so concerned with, like, the
fact that he's like thisbillionaire, she's a working

(14:23):
girl or he's not looking for arelationship, so she's just
gonna get her heartbroken or shedoesn't want this or whatever,
but she does.
She's couldn't, I don't know.
The whole thing was justinfuriating for me to try to
read through and the fact thatthat was the majority of the
book made me like Dread pickingup this book.
The finish it kind of yeah,because I just didn't want to
deal with her.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, she like.
I also like the billionairetrope.
I think I've only ever readlike two this one and another
one, and I actually don't lovethe other ones.
Maybe I don't like thebillionaire trope, it's maybe
they just haven't been greatbooks, but Frankie for sure
ruined a lot of it for me.
I also was hoping for more oflike a grumpy sunshine vibe, but
what was not anticipatingFrankie being the grumpy one?

(15:06):
Yeah, so I thought like it wasgonna be more like brooding
billionaire and less likeSpoiled girl, right?
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah well, cuz that's normally what they are, and so
I wasn't mad about like the flopof it yeah, being like she was
the grumpy one and he was thesunshine cuz it's like it's when
you go into these booksExpecting what we expected, and
so the fact that the other kindof flipped the script on us I
appreciate like the kind of likethought of it, and it made me
love Aiden even more, yeah, butit made me hate Frankie even

(15:39):
more too, mm-hmm.
So, yeah, no, I do I love thebillionaire trope, so it's one
of my favorites, but I don'tknow just it was it was.
It wasn't the book, it wasFrankie, and the way it was the
fact that the plot didn't goanywhere.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Aiden helped, frankie did it and I think Frankie,
well, like every other character, helped and Frankie did it,
even the annoying bridesmaids,like they were better than
Frankie.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, something proo was like.
You're being absolutelyridiculous and stupid and being
like the reality.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm happy, I'm married.
I think she really says that atthe end.
She's like I'm okay, like we'retogether now.
It doesn't matter, yep, itdoesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
So what did you think about?
Like the writing styles,because I personally enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, I thought it was pretty simple, easy to
follow, like I could visualizethings well and I think each
character had a distinctpersonality, which I liked,
because I feel like sometimesyou read books and they like
almost like Blend, like they'retoo similar, but I felt each
person like had their own vibe,like they were their own person.
So I did like that.

(16:45):
But again going back to likewhere our expectations got
flipped, like rereading the backof the book where it says like
the bride is a doll, the groomis a perfect gentleman, but the
rest of the wedding partythey're the stuff of nightmares,
and like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
It definitely makes you think that she's going to go
into all the different nuancesof the wedding.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, and then I read the author's note, which made
me understand it a little bitmore.
I never read the author's note.
I read it sometimes, but so shetalks Honestly.
I'm just going to read it realquick, because it's like half a
page.
Dear reader, where do I start?
As always, I started this bookwith an idea of where it would
go.
I thought this was going to bejust a light, funny rom-com set

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in paradise.
Oh wow, we did too.
And then Frankie and Aiden gotdeeper.
Their conflict got more intense, their families got more
complicated.
Basically, I fell head overheels for these two and their
hot mess of a non-relationship.
I was so sure Frankie would gether heart broken and then she
ended up doing the breaking.
It's like I have no controlover these people.
I hope you loved them as muchas I did.

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I set the wedding in Barbadosbecause it's one of my favorite
places to go with Mr Lucy.
We went specifically so I couldsoak up the research for this
book and some sun and all therum.
The White Sandy Beach is theturquoise water, the insane
mini-van, public transportationit's amazing.
Anyway, if you loved Frankieand Aiden, please feel free to
hop over to Amazon.
Leave a gushing review.

(18:12):
If you hated them and you'restill reading this note, I
admire your commitment.
That's me.
Do you want to hang out and beBFFs?
Blah, blah, blah.
So after reading that it didlike I like understood the book
more After reading that note andI honestly like have a little
more respect for the book,because she's saying that like
this turned out different thaneven she expected, which that's

(18:35):
like okay, like that's cool, butmaybe like update, like the
expectations of readers, becauseit kind of like like I feel
like our expectations were setup for that, like like any
rom-com.
So I do like her writing styleand after reading the author's
note, I think I like her alittle bit more, but I don't
know?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, because the back of the book makes it seem
like it's all centered aroundthis wedding, versus really the
wedding was just how they metand then the rest of the book is
about them.
So I think if it wasn't sofocused on the wedding like
talking about the, you know,wedding party being stuff of
nightmares, whatever, which itdoes it makes you think that

(19:15):
it's going to take you throughthe whole wedding process and
they're going to where they'reforced, like to be together and
they're slowly learning abouteach other, kind of thing, isn't
that?
So you've set expectations alittle bit more than yeah, I
think maybe it would have beennot as disappointing as it was
yeah, I do like reading how shewent to Barbados for research.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, that's cool, and I really forget a lot about
how authors have to do so muchresearch, which I don't know why
.
I don't think about thatbecause it's like how would they
know all these things?
Right, but it's like so neat.
Like do you ever think abouthow they do so much research
just to help with, like, thesetting of a book or to make
things?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
accurate.
I forget about it too honestly,because when you think about
like reading fiction, you thinkabout it being like made up, so
like.
A perfect example of this is inPercy Jackson, Rick Riordan,
the author talks about the StLouis Arch and in the book
spoilers.
If you haven't read this, whichI mean it's been out for a long

(20:15):
time, I'm pretty sure mostpeople know.
There's multiple shows andmovies too.
It's fine.
It's been years, I think.
He where, like Percy, is likefighting a monster or whatever
at the top of the arch and hejumps out the window into the
river.
Well, rick had never been to StLouis and didn't realize how
far the arch actually is fromthe river for that to be a thing

(20:36):
.
So when they readapted it intothe show they had to find like a
workaround obviously, and likekind of update the story a
little bit so that way he canlike make it to the river in
time.
So things like that just make methink like, yeah, you can talk
about real places, but becauseit's fiction and you're making
things up, I never think thatlike people would actually go

(20:57):
and do research to make itrealistic, which I appreciate.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
So I'm good on her.
I think about it more when it'slike a story set in like
medieval time or when it's in acertain time period, but when
it's like something in thepresent, something like this
like a funny romance book, likeI do not think about people
doing research, so it is reallyme and I could never be an
author.
Oh, no, but yeah, so it's cool.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
The mind mapping that you have to do too, and so it's
so interesting to the way shetalks about how she started off
as one like the book going oneway, but then, as she's writing,
she starts taking it acompletely different way.
It's almost like the charactersare developing the book for her
and not her writing the bookitself, and I've heard of a lot
of authors that, like, have thathappen for them too, and so I

(21:45):
find that fascinating as welland that's going to be cool for
them, for kind of like avalidating feeling almost for
them that their characters havesuch a hold on them that I'm
sure that it'll have a hold onlike the readers too, If they
can influence the book that muchfor the person actually writing
it.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I mean our girl, Sarah J Mass.
Of course I'm going to bringher up, but I know I think it
was one of the Crescent Citybooks where she wrote it and
then she literally like shewrote the whole book and then
she started over because she waslike this isn't right and she
rewrote it.
They just know, yeah, so Idon't know.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I would love to like have like a deep conversation
with an author and like how theyplan out books too, because,
like you know that she had tohave like this written out
process.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
And.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I'm sure every author is different in like their
planning process.
But, like, do you like map itout?
Do you just like draft it?
Do you bullet point list it andthen like, as you're writing,
like and you realize that, okay,so it's not Aiden who's going
to be doing the breaking of theheart, it's Frankie Do you go
back and revise, then your likedraft or mind map and to then go

(22:50):
back and start writing thestory again, or do you just let
the story go and you're justwriting and you'll go back and
edit later, kind of thing I'd befascinated to learn more about
that.
Maybe we can interview someauthors yes, and the aspiring
authors out there hit us up.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, on Lazy Girl Library.
That's our Instagram, andeverything, yep, absolutely
everything.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Find us anywhere yeah .

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Lazy Girl Library.
Do you read another book byLucy Scor I?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
think I would and I looked up because I'm horrible
with author names, so I didn'trealize that I actually have a
couple of her books on my TBR onGoodreads until I was like
looking up other books by hairand then I came across them and
was like, oh, I didn't realize.
So obviously some of themintrigued me.
So I'm interested andespecially because for me if the

(23:37):
writing style wasn't bad, likeif I enjoyed like the writing of
it, and it was just the storyitself, I didn't have, I didn't
like I'm more willing to giveanother book by that author a
shot because maybe it's justthis specific story.
I mean, there's so many booksout there by authors where it's
like some are hits, some aremisses, so I'll give her like
maybe one or two more books tosee whether it's something I

(23:59):
want to like truly is like startpursuing or like keep up with,
like her latest releases.
But it seems like she has a lotout by the looks of it.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, I would definitely read another one of
her books because she does seemto be pretty popular, have a few
popular books.
So I don't know, part of me islike maybe we're being too hard
and we were just wanting adifferent story.
Like like maybe we just wentinto it with our own wants, yeah
, but we didn't write the book,so maybe we just got to read the
back because it wasn't that bad.

(24:28):
It was just different than whatwe expected, right.
Well, it did get boring, yeah.
Yeah, because at the beginningwas great, right, that wedding
part was so good and that's whatI hold on to.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
It gives me hope for, like all these other books, is
because it's again.
It's not the writing, because,like she obviously can write a
compelling story it's just theway that this story took off and
I feel like it lost its plot.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think it I feel like she was starting to use
like spice to keep the storygoing to, like make it move
along, which that doesn't workfor me.
It doesn't for me either.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I skimmed them because I just didn't.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Oh my gosh, I skipped them all.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, it doesn't work for me if I'm not connected to
the character.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's like the actual plot, like exactly what am I
waiting?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
for I don't know.
Nope, it wasn't for me in thatsense, but it does.
Yeah, the little beginning partgave me hope moving forward.
And just so you guys are aware,she is the author of the Things
we Never Got Over, which was onmy list.
I think that's one with theblue cover and the daisies on it
that I've seen all over TikTok.
So to go through the list thatshe has on her book, it's the

(25:30):
Knock them Out series, but theNevalence series, riley Thorne
novels, blue Moon series, standalone, bootleg Spring series
there's so many and within eachseries there's like at least
three to five books, if not more.
So there's a lot out there byher.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
So I wonder how old she is.
I don't know.
We can do a deep dive yeah.
I kind of want to look her upreal quick because, like that's
a lot of books and I'm wondering, like she's just whipping them
out.
Oh, she seems like younger.
Okay, authors are not likeother celebrities.

(26:08):
It doesn't just list their ageon when you look them up.
Lucyscoreage says at 13,.
She stole her first romancenovel off her mother's bookshelf
and never looked back.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh, she's cute, she's cute.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, she does look younger.
She was born January 30th 1980.
So let me do some math so she's44.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Wow, she's cranked out a lot of books.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
She has cranked out a lot of books Good for her.
Yeah, that is really cool, butthen also it makes me a little
weary of.
Are you taking enough timewhile you're writing the?

Speaker 2 (26:43):
books for the story Right?
Are you just whipping them outor are you thinking through it
all?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
But, as I said, I could never be an author, nope,
so I don't know the process.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Respect to them, for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
And I do want to give another one of her books to try
.
I think it could be better.
I really did like that weddingsection, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I think that's definitely something that we
both think like, wish happened.
More was just like more of thewedding or more of something,
just more plot than just therelationship and how Frankie
sucked throughout it.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, speaking of the relationship, did the romance
work?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, not for me, it didn't, and it's because Frankie
was too selfish, she was tooself-centered, she was just
awful, honestly, to Aiden thewhole time.
And so, as much as I, theromance worked for me, for Aiden
, like I fell in love with Aiden.
So in that romance way, yes, butfor the book itself, no, it

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wasn't.
I couldn't relate to them.
I couldn't, I didn't even likeon an emotional level, connect
with the relationship at all,which I think is important.
When you're writing a romanceto like, you feel it too and you
feel giddy when you're readingabout it.
But you know, she took me outof it.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, I mean for me.
I guess it works to an extentbecause the author makes it work
she's the one who writes it.
But Aiden totally deservedbetter and, like Frankie just
needed someone different.
Like if she was going to be sostuck up about someone who's so
nice to her, then like maybe shedeserved someone toxic.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
But you know what did work for me?
The bromance between Aiden andFrankie's brothers.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
That was like, like I said in the beginning, that was
one of my favorite parts, likeoh, it was such a good dynamic,
honestly, like well, I don'tknow her other books, but if she
did a spin off, like with oneof her brothers, as like the
romance, like one of the leadguys, I would read that because
they both seemed really likesweet and like cool and I loved
reading that part.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, I love the way that they were like really
protective of Frankie, but thenalso come could see her flaws
not so protective and so likeoverbearing about it.
That like when anythinghappened or Frankie got upset
with Aiden, like they didn'ttake it to heart against.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Aiden either knowing how.
Frankie can be.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Because I think that's a really fine balance,
just like in life too, becauseobviously people have flaws and
sometimes people are going to bewrong, and I feel like in a lot
of like books or romances ormovies, whatever that you watch
a lot of times, like especiallyfamily can can like take away
from the other character or likeshun them because of one thing
that happened that maybe wasn'teven their fault, because
they're only getting one side ofthe story, it's just because of

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their loved one, whichobviously you want to support
your loved one, but and they Ithink so I think that the
brothers handled that dynamicand that relationship
beautifully, by supporting theirsister but also recognizing the
flaws, and that there are twosides to each story.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, and I think it helped for Aiden's like
character arc in a sense of likeit was almost like found family
, like they were so kind to him,treated them as a brother
should when he had his own, likeawful relationship with his
brother or half brother.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
So I think for Aiden's development to like, the
brothers were so good for him,whereas Frankie was not good for
him.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Right, give him the family that he never had, but it
was still working on therelationship that he deserves.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, also something I wish that happened that I want
to share in the book.
I wish that we had started.
So this would have been myperfect expectations of the book
.
Like for this book to right,pay me a picture.
Yeah, for this book to have beenfive stars, it would have
started at the beginning of thewedding process and went through
like each wedding event.

(30:26):
So, yes, it started at theengagement party, but we could
even go back to like theproposal or like to when they're
being asked and like that'swhen they're introduced and then
, like each thing is its ownlike interaction and so, like,
maybe at the wedding dress orwhen the bridesmaids are buying
their dress, aiden shows up forsome like snobby, rich reason,

(30:47):
or vice versa, like Frankie hasto go to the suit fitting
because crew can't go, and thenthat's when, like Aiden like
does something, or that's whenthey have their like little
moments of getting to meet andlike Aiden's like kind of being
an asshole, but like like a hotone, yeah, and then that's when
they developed like a connection, like during those moments he

(31:08):
like buys her, her bridesmaidsdress for her and she gets so
mad at him.
She's like I can take care ofmyself, yes.
And finally, the weddings atthe end, and then, like, during
the kidnapping of the of thegroom, and at the ending, like
this is when they get deep.
And during the kidnapping iswhen they finally like
understand each other and likethe hating, like really like.

(31:29):
This is where it like finallylike goes away.
Yeah, so not like like.
That would have been my perfectsnare.
I don't know if I explained itwell.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Sounds like a five star book to me, honestly, that
is what I wanted.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
So basically a whole new story, except for the
wedding kidnapping part.
I just wanted that at the end.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Same same, like little bit, just like just.
We wanted all the extra detailsin between.
So, yeah, no, I completelyagree and I would read that book
.
Honestly, that's what weexpected, and I think that you
definitely should write a bookor something like that.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Because you know someone can steal my idea.
Take it and write it, because Ican't, but just send me a free
copy and I'll read it.
Do you want to kind of likebreak down each character, like
talk about maybe each characterand some of our favorite parts
about them and least favorite?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Sure Um.
My favorite part about Aidenwas never willing to give up,
like he knew what he wanted andhe was going to do absolutely
everything in his power to getit.
But contrary to typicalbillionaire trope guys, he was
so respectful about it too.

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He wasn't like super alpha maleLike you know.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
He's kind of like he's been reading Crescent City
Alpha male.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, he wasn't like I mean he starts off like some
of his thoughts in the beginninghere, kind of like I always get
what's mine, or like I justwant you whatever, like kind of
starting that, but you come torealize that it's like it's the
painting on the outside, notwhat's truly on his inside, and
that he's just like determinedthat he loves Frankie and is

(33:04):
going to do anything in once,frankie and I love that about
him.
I honestly I don't even know ifI have a negative for him.
The thing I don't like maybejust like the way that he dealt
with his family and like the wayhe dealt with the wedding,
where he's like so nonchalantabout it, like this is normal,
because it's clearly not normal,but even then I can't fault him

(33:28):
for that, because it's justkind of like the world that he
comes from and that's just howyou have to handle that in that
world, I guess.
Or the world that Lucy made.
Yeah, so yeah, no no flaws forme.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, I think my favorite part about Aiden was
like the way his insecuritiescame through when he would ask
Frankie's brothers for advice.
Like that was really cute andso I really liked.
I just liked their wholedynamic and the fact that he was
okay enough to like ask forhelp, Like he liked Frankie so

(34:00):
much and he wasn't like hewasn't a hypocrite or too snobby
to say like I need help, Likehow do I get her.
So I really liked that abouthim.
Something negative about Aiden,I guess that well, I guess a
flaw in his insecurities waslike being too scared to tell
Frankie certain things, or likeat the wedding when he wasn't

(34:21):
like explaining enough about hisbrother, which I get they had
just met then.
So it's like harder, but I guessthat would be a flaw.
So like he definitely couldhave explained, like he could
have dug himself out of theholes that he put himself in
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
But at the same time too, Frankie really didn't give
him the time of day to even try.
This is true.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
This is true.
I'm not going to list all thethings I didn't like about
Frankie, because it was a lot.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
It was too long.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Something that I did like was her family and friends
Yep.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
That about sums it up .
Yeah, so I'm trying to thinksomething I like about Frankie.
I appreciate that she iswilling to go to bat for her
friend and like put herself outon the line and like Make sure
that her friend is having themost amazing day.
Like I appreciate that, as muchas it kind of went too much to
the extreme and she wouldn'tlike believe her friend when her

(35:14):
friends like this is okay.
She kind of like she took thegrudge on that.
She thought that her friendshould have had yeah, and I
didn't appreciate that part.
But the intent behind inlooking out for her I can't
appreciate she was a very goodmate of honor.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yes, she did her duty , she did her role.
She found the groom.
Yes, I will give her propsthere.
She definitely cares for pru,sometimes a little too much.
Yeah, I did love pru, thoughPrue and chip.
I liked them both.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, I think Chip was just kind of a flat
character for me, but it didn't.
It was not not a bad way, cuzlike obviously he wasn't meant
to be like a super dynamiccharacter within the plot, so I
don't hold that against like thebook at all.
He was just kind of like thefun little golden retriever boy
that throughout the whole thinglike everything's fine and this
is fun and I love.
You know my wife.

(36:06):
Yeah, but prove for me I lovedbecause as much as she was part
of like the super rich societyand like is used to certain
things that like Frankie wasn't,she was never Afraid to like
invite Frankie, the things orthe pull Frankie into her world
and was never.
I never wanted Frankie to beanybody but herself in those

(36:28):
situations too, and like wouldstand up for her when necessary,
which I think was reallyimportant.
I think that she also wasn'tafraid to put Frankie in her
place.
So like on those times too,when Frankie's being stupid and
like holding the grudge for pruthat pru wasn't even having, she
would tell her like she wasbeing, she would let out, be
like you're being stupid rightnow, and I think pru was a

(36:50):
really good friend and I thinkit is a really good making of a
friend, like in the real worldtoo.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, have a lot of good qualities.
I liked how pru wasn't likeStereotypical, like rich girl,
like how the bridesmaids wereportrayed, like she was genuine
and, like you said, like she canjust Stand up for herself, have
her own like values, like be agreat girl and also really like
nice things, yeah, and reallyhave a good expensive taste, and
that's fine too, yep.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
So I liked how she was portrayed confident in her
own self, to not have to beworried about the insecurities
of anything else.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, and I like chip too.
But again he was also just kindof like pass her by.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, but the relationship was really cute.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, you can definitely tell that they loved
each other.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, yeah, it was cute though it was cute the read
through and you're kind of like, oh, and you could see it,
because it was, like I said, thewedding part really reminded Me
rom-com, so it was really easyfor me to picture it all and
like just seeing the puppy doglove between the two of them and
being their own bubble,regardless of what happened, is
such a rom-com thing.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
So it was so easy for me to like visualize to and be
like ah, I wish you could haveseen more of the bridesmaids and
the groomsmen Dynamic, like Ifeel like we learned nothing
about the groomsmen, but I feellike they had potential to be
like cool, fun characters, evenif they were like like snobby,
rich guys like they, I think,could have been portrayed like
funny and like they could haveAdded to the story and she kind

(38:11):
of sets you up in that way whereyou think that they're gonna be
more involved.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
She's telling you a little like giving you like bits
and pieces about them, but thenit never really comes to
fruition, other than like theone bridesmaid who like Causes
Frankie to like dip from therelationship because of what she
thought was happening, yeah,which you could kind of guess
was gonna happen too.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
The author does do a good job of setting up the
bridesmaids to make you hatethem.
Yeah, I definitely did not wantto spend a second with them, no
, but the groomsmen, they seemto cool, like I'd want to hang
out with them, but she did do agood job too with the
bridesmaids where you reallyhated the one that ended up
causing the problem later.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, the other two she made just and just annoying
enough for you to sympathizewith Frankie being in that
situation, but not hate themenough to where they're kind of
more like the comic relief or,like you know, the funny part of
the the book for, like whenthey did pop up occasionally,
mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
So and then for Aiden's family.
Obviously she wants, the authorwants you to love like bio mom,
and I definitely did love biomom.
She's like super oh yeah supernice, super sweet.
I felt almost like we didn'tneed Everybody else in the
family.
We only need like one of them,like just the brother or just

(39:27):
the dad, or just the step mom.
Like having all three of them belike the big bad family.
It was almost like too much,like I didn't, I didn't need
yeah, all of them like I got it.
I understand like he does onthis family, like they're not
great.
Right but I don't think Ineeded each of them.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
If that makes right to like still sympathize with
Aiden and like I don't see whyhe is insecure about things
right and it's kind of like shethrew them in there to help,
because it's kind of like thestereotypical thing with like
the billionaires trope to havein there.
But I agree, because she wasdoing something different with
the billionaires trope thanevery other book.
I don't think it was necessaryto pull in that thing that

(40:08):
everybody else does, becauseyou're you're switching, you're
switching it up a little bit, soyou stick with that like be
strong and that don't like takethe same things from other, like
books, like that kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't add to thestory at all, I don't think.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
And then finally, frankie's family.
I liked all of them.
I forget why she got annoyedwith her mom, but she was really
annoyed with her mom for, oh,because she would always like
Set her up.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, yeah and like constantly like not wanting her
to be by herself, which likeyeah, as annoying.
I think we all can like relateto that for at least not, maybe
not everybody, but it's like anormal thing for like moms to
want to do my mom definitely.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Anytime there was a cute guy would like say
something, or there's this onestory that comes to mind.
Sorry, I'm gonna know what I doit.
But there's this one time wewere at this store, like played
against sports, where they sellused stuff, and I'd asked the
the guy at the register who wasabout my age, maybe a little bit
older.
I was like, hey, do you guyshave a like a spike ball set?

(41:10):
And he was like, oh no, wedon't.
And then my mom was like, ohwell, maybe you could text us if
you get one in.
And I was like weird.
And then she was like okay,darby, give him your number.
And I was like mom, and so hedid text me, but I didn't text
him back.
I was like, okay, mom, maybelet me I'll hop in there.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
It's really funny.
It's funny to listening to thatbecause you're such an outgoing
person, so normally it's likethe moms with like the more shy
people that don't put themselvesout there, that they're putting
themselves out there for them.
But you're such an outgoing butlike personality, that's like
it's funny that your mom didthat for you.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
She's definitely.
She's a character.
She's funny.
I love her.
I wouldn't want to grow up anyother way.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I think it helped to make me as outgoing as I am,
seeing her be outgoing, and Imean, there's so many times my
sister and I would get so mad atmy mom Because, like we would
be out somewhere, whatever thegrocery store, and be like, oh
my gosh, that cashier is so cute.
And then we'd get to thecheckout line and my mom would
literally go.
My daughters think you're socute.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
We were just talking about it.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Oh my gosh, I think my mom would do that.
I would be mortified, like howcould you do this to us?
And it's like we're like middleschool too.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
So it's like even worse.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Or like oh my god, I'm gonna die right here, like
how could you?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
I feel like my mom was more insisting that we
thought they were cute, beinglike oh you're so handsome, dear
.
Like like her saying like ohyou're so cute.
And you mean like If she hadsaid that, like if my mom had
done that, I would have been IProbably not in my skin like she
never means anything wrong byit, like she was just trying to

(42:48):
make them feel good aboutthemselves, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
but oh my gosh In my sister that would get so mad at
her for it.
Yeah, I think everybody canrelate to that type of mom, but
I don't think I don't know itdidn't warrant all of the
annoyance that Frankie had aboutit too and like being so hard
on her mom about it.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, Also.
I get that like the dad wassupposed to be like distant, but
he was almost like too like-.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I don't even remember the dad which I think points in
your point Exactly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Cause when they go over for lunch I think he's like
sitting in front of the TV andhe literally says like nothing
the whole time.
But I feel like with thebrothers and the mom like I get
what she was going for, but Ifeel like he still needed to
have a little more like familypriority aspect to him.
I liked her family, yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Her family is great.
His family is not, but that'sokay because that was meant to
be.
Yeah, so it did its purpose.
So what are your like?
Final thoughts on the book.
Let's get to our star ratings.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
So I gave it 2.7 and I think that's being generous.
It just didn't meet myexpectations and I, like I said
earlier, I just I think it triedto have this spice and smut
carry it which, like it's an Ofor me, dog Aiden is what
carried it for me.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, yeah, for me too.
I gave it.
You were much more generousthan I was.
I gave it a one star, which wecan get into our star ratings
too.
I think in another episode weshould definitely do that, how
we rate books differently.
But yeah, overall I was not afan, it was just disappointing,
and for me if a book feels morelike a chore to finish, then
it's an immediate one star forme.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
That was the book.
It sucked it did.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
But it's okay, Lucy, don't take it personally.
We will try out other booksbecause we did enjoy your
writing.
It's just this specific storythat wasn't for us.
It's not our cup of tea, butlet us know if it was your cup
of tea.
If you read with us, leave uscomments on our Instagram, at
least the girl library.
You can also reach out at ourwebsite on our comments form

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blazygirllibrarycom.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Let us know what you thought yeah, I know this was a
little repetitive, becauseunfortunately this was a book we
didn't like, and so there werejust a few things that we really
didn't like about it.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
It was a lackluster book, so not a whole lot to talk
about.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, other things that we didn't like we are
getting ready to pick out ourbook for next month.
So, again, keep updated on ourInstagram, lazygirllibrary, so
you can be the first to knowwhat we are going to read next
month for our book club, and wewill probably mention it on the
next podcast as well what we'regoing to be reading.
Stay tuned.
But this was so much fun doingour first book club and book

(45:33):
talk together and I'm excited totalk about a book that we do
like with you guys.
That'll be fun.
And then stay tuned becausenext week will be a bookish
podcast.
So meaning we are not going tobe talking about books, or no,
we're going to talk about books.
But we're not going to betalking about a specific book

(45:54):
and doing a book club, but weare going to just be talking
about a bookish topic.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Stay tuned for that.
Come back, please.
We love you.
But speaking of books that wedo like or maybe don't, I don't
know we can get into ourboroughs and returns.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yes, okay, yeah, boroughs and returns.
So unfortunately, mine is theexact same as last podcast.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
It's hard, it's sometimes.
You know it just is what it is.
Yeah, you don't.
Sometimes you have a lot oftime to read, other times you
get no time to read.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
I was sick this past week and I had my birthday
before I got sick.
Yes, happy birthday, darby.
Thank you 26.
But so, yeah, not a lot of timeto be reading.
So House of Flame and Shadow isone of my boroughs that I'm
still reading, and that's almosta thousand pages, so I'm
halfway through with it, or alittle.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Wow, look at you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
So that one.
Just I knew that was going totake me a while.
And then how to Win Friends andInfluence People.
I'm still just like that.
One's more like a back burnerbook for me.
So this one might stay in myboroughs for quite some time,
because this one I'm just kindof like.
It's just like a touch and gobook.
Yeah, I feel like it's meant tobe that kind of book too.
I think so.
Yeah, Unless, like I'm surethere are some people that like

(47:07):
really want to hone in on thesehabits, but for me it's more of
like reminders.
So that's kind of why I'mreading the book, is just kind
of like a refresh and, yeah,good reminders for me.
And then Returns again.
Everybody Always was the LastBook that I finished by Bob Goff
.
I love that man.
I think of him as like anothergranddad.

(47:27):
He's so cute, yeah, and justlike sweet and loves.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Jesus, my boroughs.
Same one from last week, houseof Sky and Breath, but because I
did finish the book club book,I started reading that one a
little bit more.
That one's getting good.
It surprised me a little bitbecause normally or at least the
first book it took a while.
It was a long, like build up,whereas this one, I mean, I'm

(47:56):
like maybe 20% the way throughit and it already.
I had one of those like oh mygosh.
Moments when I was reading.
I was literally sitting here onthe couch and I read it and I
like I'm home alone and I'mtalking to myself out loud
because like that's what it waslike.
It shocked me.
I was like oh my gosh, I didn'tsee this coming, like what the
heck, what's?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
going on.
Well, get ready, because Houseof Flame and Shadow is all gas
and no brakes from the get go.
It's as if you're reading thelast 100 pages of a serenade.
Oh my God, like it's just it'sgoing.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I don't know if my heart can handle that Constantly
like like beating, like I'mhaving a heart attack.
So yeah, but like I said, I'mlike maybe 20% of the way
through that book, so still gota long way to go with it but I
am really enjoying it so far.
Another of my boroughs is 10%Happier by Dan Harris.

(48:45):
It has like it's one of thosebooks that's like 10% Happier
colon and it has a really longextra title.
But if you look up 10% Happierby Dan Harris, like it'll come
up.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
What kind of book is it?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
It's like a self help meets memoir kind of book.
I'm still I'm doing it onaudiobooks.
I found that I can't doaudiobooks for like these two,
like the worst best man or likeany, like serenade masks, but I
really enjoy an audiobook forlike a memoir or a self help.
It's easier for me to read itthat way than to read the

(49:18):
physical book and so it's kindof like a podcast in that way.
So I've started doing that.
I have like the one physicaland then like the one audio that
I'm kind of listening to.
So this is what I'm doing onaudio, still early on in it.
But Dan Harris is I don't knowif he still is, but he was, at
least when he was talking aboutit a reporter for ABC News and

(49:41):
it's basically a book about howmeditation helps with your
mental health and so he kind oftakes you through the story of
his life a little bit and howand the journey that he went on
to find and how he ended up onmeditation and how much it's
improved his life and hishappiness, mental health kind of

(50:02):
thing.
So it's not a full memoirbecause the stories that he does
tell about his life and what hegoes in the detail are like
there's a purpose to them andnot just like the word vomit of.
This is everything that'shappened to me in my life kind
of thing.
But it is.
It's kind of like a hybrid.
So I'm just now starting to getinto the part where he's like
finding and discovering thingsabout like how he was depressed

(50:24):
and like talking to a therapistand like you know, maybe he read
like this book that he thoughtwas going to be crazy because,
or like that the author was likepsycho, crazy person for like a
story that he was doing becauseI guess the author was from
like really highly rated andlike Oprah loves him, like had

(50:45):
her on his show, kind of thing.
But like when he like sees himand reads about like what the
book is about, he's like butthis guy seems crazy, like what
the heck is all the hype?
And so he reads the book andit's kind of like self
validating because he is crazy.
But at the same time as he'sreading it it's kind of eye
opening because it's talkingabout like the psyche and like
how the, basically how thelittle voice in your head is the

(51:07):
worst and how it causes you somany problems, and so now it's
starting to ramp up into.
Okay, I don't necessarily agreewith everything this guy says,
but he makes some really validpoints that hit home for me.
So he's starting to do moreresearch into it, and so now
we're kind of finding out thejourney on how he has gotten to
the place that he is with hismental health and like

(51:28):
meditation and how much it'smade him better and happier.
But it's very like, realisticand like.
In his little note in thebeginning he talks about how
it's not the cure all by anymeans.
But that's why he named thebook 10% happier, because it
helps make you just 10% happierthan where you were.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
That's really nice.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I think that's been kind of enjoyable and I've been
really.
I've been really enjoying thatso far and I'm curious to see
now that it's really startingthe rainbow we got all the
backstory out of the way Hisjourney to find meditation, like
where he's at right now.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Okay cool, that does sound really interesting.
You'll have to let me know Iwill, it's on.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Spotify.
I mean.
That's why I love the newaudiobooks Spotify unspotified.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
That's been great.
You know what else I love onSpotify?
This podcast called Crazy GirlLibrary.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I'm one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
No, that is really cool that Spotify has audiobooks
now that you can just listen toExactly.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Speaking of which, though, for my returns.
I did forget to mention it inour last episode as a borrow,
but it was another audiobookthat I found on Spotify.
It's Jessica Simpson's memoircalled Open Book.
I saw it after I'd finished theBritney Spears one that we had
read for our book club before westarted this podcast.
I decided to give it a shotbecause I enjoyed the Britney

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Spears one.
Oh my gosh, I cannot recommendthis book enough.
It was so good I preferred it.
It's hard to say you prefer amemoir because it's a jewelry
about a person's life, but theJessica Simpson one gave me
everything I was looking forfrom the Britney Spears one that
I didn't get.

(53:10):
She's the one that narrates itto you.
That's really nice.
It starts off kind of bizarreto me.
I don't know how this is goingto go, but then she eventually
comes back to the beginning ofher life and takes you through
everything that's happened.
But she does a fantastic job ofkeeping things real.
She holds herself accountablewhen she needs to hold herself

(53:32):
accountable.
Things are happening with otherpeople because obviously,
throughout her life withNicholas Shea and John Mayer,
there are things that happen shetalks about it and negative
things that have happened withinthose relationships, but in a
very respectful way of thesepeople too.
It's not just like a bashingthese people.
These people are the worst, andthis is why this happened to me

(53:54):
and whatever.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
That's interesting because I feel like Jessica
Simpson for us, or maybe justfor me.
I knew about her growing up,but I still feel like I was a
little too young.
Did you grow up being a bigJessica Simpson fan?
No, I was the same way.
It was one of those things thatwith you.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
One of my favorite songs to this day still is the
only really Jessica Simpson songthat I know, but it is.
It's one of those things.
You were just a little bit tooyoung so I kind of heard about
it.
Or like, when you're goingthrough the grocery store line
or check out, I'll you see allthe tabloids that's how I knew
of Jessica Simpson.
So that's funny when I'mlistening to this audiobook
because I remember seeing allthese stories and tabloids and

(54:32):
things that would pop up abouther and she addresses a lot of
women, talks about like thebehind the scenes of it all and
she gets really, reallyemotional their parts because
she's the one that's narratingit that you can tell like she's
crying and getting through itand it makes you feel really
emotional listening to her andyeah, she takes you just through
her whole life and everythingup until now in this point and

(54:56):
she has an amazing clothing linebusiness that I didn't even
know.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Oh, I actually have Jessica Simpson shoes.
Really, I got them in highschool.
I don't know if I have themanymore, but I didn't know that
she had a line, because I'veshocked it.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I had no idea.
I always thought like when Iheard, like at Jessica Simpson
line, it's like one of thoselike collabs with Kohl's kind of
thing.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Yeah, or like the Kylie Kendall Paxson.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Right, exactly.
Then you always see like abunch of celebrities do like
that's what I always thought,but then like listening to her
book and it's like no, sheactually has her own brand and
it's doing phenomenal.
It's like a billion dollarbusiness.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
So she's killing it.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yep, happy for her, proud of you, jessica.
But yeah, it was reallyinteresting to learn about these
things and I appreciated theway that she wrote it.
It is very much like readingher diary, which I guess is like
how it inspired, because shedoes keep diaries throughout it.
But she gave you a lot moredetail into things, which I
think is what I was missing fromlike the Britney Spears one, or

(55:55):
like she would skip overcertain parts that I wanted to
know more about that one was sosporadic, though I feel like
Britney Spears, you can'tcompare it to that one, because,
yeah, it's true but it kind oflike it left me wanting more.
so then when I went into thisone, it scratched that itch for
me a little bit.
You can't like, you can'tcompare, because it's different
lives but different people.
Britney Spears is a lot goingon, absolutely absolutely.

(56:18):
But it was interesting,especially because they come
from the same time too.
So Jessica would talk aboutcertain things like Britney
Spears and like competing withher and whatever, and having
just listened to that, I waslike, oh, I remember listening
to this kind of thing.
So yeah, overall I gave it afour stars.
It was really really good.
I enjoyed it and I do recommendit.
But I recommend the audiobookversion because you do get her

(56:40):
like emotional reading from itand it really makes you like
connect with her more and thestory that she's telling then
like reading it physically.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
No, I definitely want to try that out.
That sounds really cool.
Well, that was our burrows andreturns and, on that note, I
think it's time for us to go.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Another episode in the bank.
So proud of us.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
This was so fun.
I love Mikaela.
I love talking to her and Ilove that you guys get to hear
us talk.
But so that's it for thismonth's Book Club episode.
Be sure to keep updated on ourInstagram, Lazy Girl Library and
our website to hear about whatour next Book Club book is going
to be and what our next episodeis going to be about and when

(57:23):
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But just thank you so much forjoining us and for listening All
the support already.
It's been so, so kind.
I do want to ask you guys havebeen so kind and some of you
have texted us your thoughts,which have been really sweet If
you would love to leave us areview.
That would be really cool.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Huge help to us.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Especially because we are just baby podcasters trying
to make it in the podcast realm.
So that would be awesome, butthank you so much for listening,
for even giving us your time ofday, and we'll see you next
time.
Bye, guys.
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