May 15, 2025 • 37 mins
What drives us to keep pushing forward when motivation fades? In this compelling conversation with Ben Furtwengler, owner of Anytime Fitness in Murrells Inlet, we uncover the powerful distinction between fleeting motivation and enduring self-discipline.
Ben shares a revolutionary perspective on joint pain and tendonitis that challenges conventional wisdom. Rather than complete rest, he explains how improper movement patterns often cause these issues, and how proper assessment can restore function while building strength. Through inspiring success stories—including a nonagenarian who progressed from struggling with curbs to performing single-leg TRX exercises, and a 63-year-old deadlifting over 500 pounds—we see how fitness transcends age barriers and transforms lives.
The heart of our discussion explores what happens when motivation inevitably wanes. Ben articulates how goal-setting creates the framework for self-discipline, which carries us through low-motivation periods. We examine how supplements, workout gear, and music serve as psychological triggers that reinforce commitment, and how finding enjoyment in exercise transforms it from obligation to anticipated pleasure.
Ben's personal journey from pharmacist to fitness entrepreneur offers valuable insights for anyone contemplating career transitions. After ten years watching patients maintain medications without improving health, he pivoted to fitness—his lifelong passion and personal approach to wellness. His advice? Start turning over rocks without waiting for perfect timing or flawless plans.
We conclude with a holistic approach to health, identifying five key elements: exercise, sunlight, nutrition, sleep (which Ben calls "the biggest stone left unturned"), and strategic supplements. Whether you're just beginning your fitness journey or seeking to rekindle motivation, this conversation offers practical wisdom for sustainable progress and personal transformation. Remember: the best motivation often comes from inspiring others.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome to the Leader Mentality Show.
This is Rob Clemens, and we areat a special location today.
For those of you who cannottell it's not the normal leader
mentality sign in the backgroundbecause it's even better we're
actually live at Anytime Fitnessin Merles Inlet, south Carolina
.
We've got a great guest, butbefore I get to him, I want to
talk a little bit about whatyou're trying to do as a leader.
(00:43):
Part of great leadership islearning yourself.
You've got to know yourselffirst and foremost if you're
trying to do as a leader, andpart of great leadership is
learning yourself.
You got to know yourself firstand foremost if you're in
leadership, and then you canspread your knowledge to other
people.
Sometimes it's encouragement,sometimes it's motivating people
, sometimes it's just helpingsomebody get grounded.
But what do we do when we'retrying to motivate ourselves?
Where do you find yourmotivation?
(01:05):
And so I've got a great guesttoday.
He is the owner of AnytimeFitness, mr Ben Furtwengler
Furtwengler.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I was so close.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh, you see now here's the thing, ben.
I spent some time in Germanyand it would be Furtwengler over
there.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It would, and it used to have an umlaut over the air.
An refert Wengler over there,it would, and it used to have an
umlaut over the end.
See, I'm trying to save it withmy German.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I spent like two weeks in Germany.
He sounded much more officialthan the actual man.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That was great.
Well, hey, man, welcome to theshow.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Good to have you by and by the way, everybody can
see what's going on in thebackground, so you know how
authentic this is.
It's really exciting to be here.
Ben even gave me my own hatearlier and you guys know I love
repping with a good hat.
So, man, this is cool man.
I really appreciate that.
Welcome on in.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, thanks for being on the show, man.
You've got a lot of stuff goingon.
Really cool club, greatlocation here.
I'm a fitness guy myself.
This is the kind of place youwant to go to if you're working
out what all has been going on.
Man, what have you been?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
up to yeah.
So we right now we're heavilyfocused on trying to build out
some of our training programs.
So we're big proponents ofhaving direction, using
assessments as a way to trackprogress.
One of the things we always sayis, if you're training without
assessing, you're just guessing.
Okay, all right.
And so we really stand truebehind how our training programs
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work.
We have one called the A12program.
It's its own separate businessthing, so it's all A12-branded
stuff and we have one trainerwho's certified in that.
It is a body transformation12-week program.
So it's the amazing 12 programbody recomp, building muscle,
losing fat and we've seen someincredible transformations in
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the club from that.
And then we have a secondseparate program that we're
working on building out rightnow, called Golf and Sports
Performance, and that isspecifically for our golfers in
the area as well as people thathave lower back pain, hip pain,
shoulder pain.
It's a little bit of a rehabprogram but also then turns into
power development, sorotational power.
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And again, all of it is backedby assessing the progress, as
we're going to make sure thatwhat we're actually doing is
what you want it to do.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, I got you.
Well, I like it.
If you're not assessing, you'rejust guessing.
I think, that could apply tomore than just fitness either.
Right, it sure does Metrics andlife and standards.
But you said something therethat was kind of interesting to
me.
You mentioned about people whomight be having joint pain and
things like that.
I find that very interestingbecause one of the things that
happens, especially if you arephysically fit, sometimes you
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get joint pains.
And what is something that youwould say to somebody who you
know they have some joint painsand they're trying to make them
better through the process offitness?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Sure, sure.
What is real easy and what alot of people will do is
completely stop.
Yeah, you know they'll haltprogress.
They'll have tendonitis is yourbiggest one, right?
Yeah, yeah, and it's painful.
Tendinitis is no joke, you know.
And they will just completelystop working out.
Rest ice, the rice protocol,rest ice, compression, elevation
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.
Unfortunately, that's probablyone of the worst things that you
can do.
What we focus on is workingwith connective tissue and soft
tissue, assessing movement,again assessment.
You're going to hear me say thata lot probably, and looking at
how the body is moving, a lot ofpeople when they get tendonitis
, it's actually from impropermovement.
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So either your knee is a bigone, right, if your hips are not
mobile enough, your knee willnot track properly.
And you get a?
Mobile enough, your knee willnot track properly and you get a
it's.
It's like a door hinge that'sbeing pulled down by a heavy
door and over time that movementwears down on.
You know the door hinge, or yourknee in this case and so we
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look at how is movement breakingdown?
How do we then manipulate thosetissues to allow for proper
movement in the hips and theankles Hips and ankles are two
very big ones to allow for thatjoint to then track in its
proper position.
A lot of times that in and ofitself takes time, which means
you're now stepping away fromheavy loads, which is where
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people typically tend toexperience that tendonitis, and
you're taking a look at overallfunctional movement, which means
okay, we've lightened the load,we're really assessing how our
body's moving.
That takes, you know, a fewweeks.
Usually, by the time that'sdone, the tendonitis has kind of
calmed down.
Now we have you moving properly.
Now we start adding the weightback on and all of a sudden,
(05:39):
magically, the tendonitis isgone.
We're now moving more weightthan what we had before and
we're doing it pain-free.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Man.
So if you're out there and youlisten, you have tendonitis.
Yeah, that would be one of thethings right there you should be
listening to, and that makes alot of sense.
I like what you said, becausewhen a door is too heavy on the
hinge, it has to relieve itselfsome way or another, and a lot
of times what you see is youmight see a little cracking or a
little pulling away from the,from the hinge, from because
it's got to give somewhere.
(06:06):
So our bodies are the same way.
Really cool, man.
Um, and then you talk about,kind of like fixing the problem
and then building up on top ofit.
Um, give me, give me a successstory.
That's happened at your clubhere.
You know what?
What's something that you'veseen.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Um, well, we've seen so one of our.
I don't know if I can say names.
We keep the names on the yeah.
So we have a lady.
She's in her 90s and she whenshe first started coming in here
, we have a little curb overthere.
She could barely step onto itby herself.
Now she comes walking up, shecan walk right up on top of that
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curve.
She doesn't have to go aroundto the ramp anymore.
She can open the door just fine.
And you know, with her itwasn't let's stack a bunch of
load on top of her.
With her it was more of aquality of life thing she wasn't
trying to beat up.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
She's not squatting 350.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's where I wanted this story to end up with.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
She's now bench pressing.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Professional bench pressing.
Professional power lifter.
Yeah, no, not at all.
Uh, but no.
But now she knows exercises todo on her own, as well as
stretching techniques andmobility techniques that allow
her to stand up and sit down onher own.
You know, we we have her overthere on the trx bands doing a
single leg squat, whereas shecouldn't even step up onto her
curve when she first came inhere.
Yeah, yeah, um, and so it'sthose small successes that
honestly make the biggest impactin people's lives.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I mean, I think it's like it's an amazing thing.
You know, the leader mentalityshow is about that, and that's
why, when we talked the otherday and we'll get back to some
of this stuff, but you know, wewere talking about what is
leadership and how do youinspire others, and that's part
of leadership it's inspiringothers and it's helping others
grow.
I think a good leader helpseverybody in their domain get
better, right?
So you're taking people whomaybe sometimes might feel like
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I don't know if I have any hope,and you're giving them hope
through this.
The coolest part of this story,though, is she was 90-something
, or maybe in her 90s.
Yep, that's incredible, man.
I feel like so many people.
They get to a point where theyfeel like, oh, you know, I'm too
old for this, I'm too old forthat, and she said, no, the heck
with that, I'm not too old foranything.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, well, we have one of our members who's
here every single day.
We track our members and howmany times they're swiping in
throughout the month.
Yeah, so on a day-to-day basis.
If you swipe in, that counts asone we three months.
He's been here every single dayfor three months.
He's 63 years old and hedeadlifts 518 pounds.
(08:26):
Wow, okay.
So, you have a mixture of thosethings.
You know, there's some peoplethat are in here for performance
, right, he's obviously on adifferent level than the other
lady we were just talking about.
But we're able to help everybody, and the reason that we're able
to help everybody is because wetake our time understanding
your goals, setting those smalland achievable goals, smart
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goals I'm sure you've heard that.
Yeah, for sure For sure, and ithelps us stay focused on what is
it that you're looking to getout of this place?
You know it's easy to come inhere and hop on the treadmill
for 10 minutes, do every singlemachine that's in here and walk
away from it, accomplishingessentially nothing except for
you know you've burned someenergy, but what was the actual
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goal behind that?
So we really help people sitdown and focus on.
I'm going to a gym three days aweek.
How do I maximize the potentialof that time that I'm putting
in already?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, I dig it, man Lay, the course Don't just come
in and kind of haphazardly dothings, but I had this image in
my head of, you know, the guywho comes in with a two liter
bottle of water or whatever.
It is a two gallon, I guess youknow and and and you know
they're, they're going to everymachine, but there's a whole lot
of talking involved and a wholelot of theatrics involved uh,
(09:41):
where, versus you know, justcoming in and being like here's
my game plan.
I believe sometimes a shortgood workout is better than a
long not good workout.
I know that sounds kind ofobvious, but I think that's a
problem sometimes.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well, and seeing that progress, then you know harking
back to what we initially weretalking about seeing that
progress then becomes its ownmotivator.
Yeah, it can be really tough inthe beginning if you come in
here Most people, if you've beensedentary for a while, you come
into the gym and kind of doanything and you'll find some
success.
But then it very quicklyplateaus and it becomes very
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hard to move the needle on thatunless you do have a plan in
place and unless you are focusedon what is the goal of me
coming in here?
And it's really easy to losemotivation if you start coming
in here, see a little bit ofprogress and then that progress
halts Whereas you create abehavior and create a habit and
it's centered around one goaland you start seeing that
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continued little progress.
Over time it becomes its ownmotivator.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well, and that's true .
I do think there's that naturalthing.
Or sometimes you don'timmediately start seeing success
, you know, and then you feellike, oh, what am I doing here?
But the metrics are more thanjust your weight 100%.
So I think there's a lot ofgreat stuff here.
Well, let's kind of move on tosome other topics, but before we
get into it, I do have to say,me and this guy, we did a little
(11:03):
bit of dragon boat a coupleweeks ago we did yeah, and we
did not win.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
No we did not.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But now here it goes.
So we're training all year long.
We're going to come back strongnext year.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's right.
That's right, you got to keepthe goal in mind.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right, got to keep the goal in mind.
We're going to have to get somestrokes going and the whole
nine yards, but anyway.
So yeah, but man, we're goingto hit the dragon boat.
We'll make sure we do some goodstuff with that.
Talk about just that scenario,though, when you have a because
this is all about motivationwhat is something you would tell
somebody that you know they'dcome in and maybe they haven't
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had that success right off thebat?
How's a way to motivate them to?
You know, make sure they arestaying in the gym and coming
back.
That.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
How's the way to motivate them, to make sure they
are staying in the gym andcoming back?
Sure, well, you run into thatsituation all the time.
You run into periods of highmotivation and periods of low
motivation.
Again, goal setting isabsolutely huge If you don't
have a goal and you're justcoming in here with nothing in
mind.
Some people are able to do that.
It's not like it's impossibleto do, but typically, once the
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motivation wears away, if thereis no goal in mind, a lot of
times you see people kind ofwalk away from it, right, um,
whereas our job in here is toreach out to those people.
So, that is something that we do, we will constantly.
We we have ways to track likewho's who's?
Uh, coming close to a training.
So, uh, and then we'll reach outto them and try to get them to
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come back in here All of ourmembers.
They get a monthly meeting witha coach so they can sit down,
but largely what we do in thatmonthly meeting is we have a
body comp scanner to kind ofcatch a baseline of where
they're at, yeah, and then we'reable to see if any progress has
been made and if it hasn't beenmade, we also can load a
program into their app and givethem something to follow.
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Now, as far as someone whodoesn't have any motivation at
all to come in here, it's atough one, you know.
You do have to findself-motivation and it can look
like a lot of different things,but honestly, the people that
are the most successful in hereare the people that have
self-discipline, which that iswhat will stand the test of time
, whereas motivation is fleeting.
(13:12):
And people see that in theirday-to-day life.
People see that in their gymlife.
People even see that in theirrelationships.
It's really easy to be a greathusband when everything's rosy
and both of you are in goodmoods and you have time for each
other.
It becomes very difficult whennow you both are stressed out.
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Maybe you have a new animal, ormaybe something's happened with
the house or with the finances.
The thing that holds all thattogether is the self-discipline
to one understand what the goalis In a relationship.
The goal is to be partners inlife and to lift each other up
and be successful In the gym.
Having a goal of is it weightloss?
Is it muscle gain?
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If it's building a healthyhabit, even just having that
goal in mind will then createthe self-discipline that will
get you through the times of lowmotivation.
I dig that dude.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, I mean that makes a lot of sense.
Well, because it's everybodydoesn't have the same goal.
Sure, you know I, you know, asyou know, I own a real estate
company too and I always tellpeople you know you.
When somebody says I want tosell my home, it's like the
first thing we have to know asan agent is well, what's your
goal?
Are you trying to maximize theprice of your home?
Are you trying to sell reallyfast?
Are you trying to meet somemidway in between?
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And if you don't know that, youcan't really guide them
properly.
Where do supplements come intoplay?
Because I've always kind offound and now you'll know, we
don't pre-talk about this stuffbecause he may be like
supplements, ah.
But, I've always found they're agreat motivator.
If you hit a little lull, youjust need that extra little
something.
I mean what?
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
yeah, uh, well, actually it's funny you say that
.
So when I when I was the guywalking around with my gallon of
water, jug doing all themachines in here all at once,
because I definitely lived thatlife for a long time uh, and
part of that is just the funbehind it.
Right, you have that likearnold schwarzenegger mentality.
That's what I wanted to be.
It's so true, though, man,because it does, it gets you in
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the mindset It'll carry youthrough six months.
It won't carry you through 10years, and I totally forgot what
you asked.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well, it was about supplements, Sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So yeah, he was taking a different form of
supplements than what you'retalking about?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh yeah, maybe All natural those are in their own
category.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But no, I think supplements are a great tool,
and I used pre-workouts when Iwas younger as a way to motivate
me, because and it's funny thisalso ties into several other
things.
But when I was in college Ididn't have a whole lot of money
.
So if I spent $60 on apre-workout supplement and then
I take a scoop of thatpre-workout supplement, you
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better believe I'm going to thegym.
Oh yeah, because there's skinin the game, right?
$60 doesn't sound like a lotnow, but when I was in college I
was scraping by.
Hey man, college students, wefeel you, I've been there, Yep
yep, and so that was somethingthat I found that was a
motivator.
It was like, all right, if Itake this thing, it means I'm
going to the gym and I went toschool in Toledo, ohio, so
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sometimes it was negative 13degrees out there and I was
walking a couple miles to thegym, oh yeah.
So motivation was low.
But if I take that it wasjacked was the supplement of the
day.
If I took that scoop of that,it was at least a mental trigger
of like, all right, this is inmy system now.
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I paid good money for this thing, I'm going to the gym, I'm not
going to miss.
And you can use supplements,you can use food choices as a
way to fuel healthy habits.
So a supplement doesn'tnecessarily a lot of them don't
do a whole lot, because a lot ofus lack sleep, a lot of us eat
poorly, a lot of us don't go tothe gym, and if you're not
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turning over those big rocks,the supplements aren't going to
turn them over for you.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I mean, I think I used to work at a general
nutrition center back in the day.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That was my college experience and you know.
But people come in and they'relooking for the supplements to
do all the work and I think it'smore of a tool.
And you know we're making somefun of the water guy and, you
know, maybe the big headphonesguy but the truth of the matter
is is, I think whatever you needto do to get yourself in the
mindset to go do work and Ithink sometimes you know as much
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as you know we're you know it'sfun to pick on them, but the
truth is, when you go out thereand your your, maybe your gym
attire makes you feel a way.
The music you're listening tomakes you feel a way that
supplement that you took thatyou're like man, this is going
to turn the corner.
That supplement that you tookthat you're like man this is
going to turn the corner.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That is where the best things happen.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely well,and it's the same thing, you
know, if you wake up in themorning and you have a giant
stack of pancakes with a bunchof syrup all over it, not that,
hey, I love pancakes.
No, no, I get you, but itstarts out your day kind of in
the hole.
You're like all right, my firstdecision out of the gate was
sugar and carbs, you know.
And if my goal is weight loss,I've already flown in the face
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of you've already done it andprobably that's your second
decision of the day.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Your first decision was hit the snooze button right.
Second decision was right,pancakes, it's like oh man well,
what turn around here?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
yeah, yeah.
So to me it supplements.
Honestly, they play a largepsychological role of and the
same thing with food where, like, if you start off your day and
you have some type of protein oryou know a healthy green shake,
or one healthy decisiontypically cascades into several
more, and how you start the daytypically is how you end the day
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.
So, starting off with thatright mentality, if you start
off and you have you know agreen supplement that you take
and it makes you feel likeyou're on top of the world when
you take it, who really careswhat it's doing internally If it
puts you in that mindset tocontinue making those healthy
decisions?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's a win for you at that point.
No, no doubt about it.
Well, cool stuff, man.
I mean we could talk about thisall day, but if we do, we won't
get to some of the reallyinteresting topics here.
Finding your motivation that isour theme of today's show.
We talked a little bit aboutthis so far, but for you, this
wasn't your first career, as Iunderstand it right.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Tell us a little bit about how you got here, man Sure
, so I shared.
I was in Toledo, ohio, forschool.
I went to the University ofToledo.
Shout out Toledo, there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Actually, we have a lot of Ohioans in the area.
I know there are a ton of them.
We're in Myrtle Beach for thosewho don't know.
But yes, it is crazy the amountof people Myrtle is in it, to
be specific.
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So I went to school to be a pharmacist.
I got my doctorate and thengraduated from that, worked for
Rite Aid, worked for Walgreens,did that for 10 years and over
the course of time I felt mymotivations waning.
Some of the things that we weredoing didn't feel like we were
setting people on the righttrack for health, which to me
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was the overall goal as apharmacist.
My mother growing up she hadcancer.
That's kind of what motivatedme to become a pharmacist.
My mother growing up she hadcancer.
That's kind of what motivatedme to become a pharmacist.
And so getting people healthy,explaining their medications and
kind of setting them on thatright track was what the whole
goal of this pharmacy thing wasFor sure.
Nice, Ten years into it I wasseeing the same people every
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single day, or at least once amonth.
Their lab values were stayingthe same, they were on the same
medications, they weren't reallymoving that needle at all.
It was the same thing as cominginto the gym and working out
without a clue of what your endgoal is, and to me that just
didn't feel right, and so I feltthat pull in a different
direction and at the time, andobviously still now today.
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This was always what I did formy own health to keep me off of
medications which to me shouldbe kind of.
The end goal of medications iswe should see people come off of
them and get healthier.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It makes sense to me.
You know you're not trying tosign a lifetime contract to take
whatever.
This thing is right, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And so, over the course of time just working with
different people and seeingthem in this kind of state of
unwell they weren't necessarilyon their deathbed, um, and they
were taking medicaid medicationsto keep them from being on
their deathbed, but they werenever really progressing into a
state of health.
Yeah, you know it was there's alot of miserable people day in
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and day out, and it wasn'teveryone, you know there were
definitely exceptions to thatrule, but, um, at some point in
time it just felt like, uh, Iwant to try something else.
Um, and this is what I'vealways done to keep myself
healthy, this is what I'vealways done that, uh, you know,
it's transformed my life in alot of ways, both mentally and
physically, no doubt.
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And so when COVID hit, a lot ofthings changed and we
definitely don't have to diveinto that.
Good old COVID, it keeps ongiving Right, but that was kind
of the catalyst for all rightlot about it.
But I really like anytimefitness as a franchise.
I really like what their viewon working out and health is,
(21:59):
and I think I want to open oneof those yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Tell me just in summarize their view on working
out.
Help, what would you describe?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
it.
So it's very much so.
It's the main motivator behindanytime fitness is making it
easy and accessible for everyone.
Okay, so, whether you're apower lifter or a bodybuilder,
or whether you're 90 years oldand just trying to walk up on a
curb, um, it's a gym foreverybody.
And the way we break down thosebarriers is by being open 24
(22:30):
seven.
Uh, it's by having, it's byhaving over 5,000 locations and
it's by making a personalizedplan for every single person
that comes in here.
I dig that man.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Look, I've been a workout guy for most of my life
and I think even for anybody.
Sometimes it's intimidating.
Walking into a gym for thefirst time, you don't know what
you're walking into.
You don't know if there's goingto be some guy named Brutus at
the front.
What are you looking, you know,and so you go in and you're
automatically like there's thatlittle aversion, even if you're
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do it all the time.
So if you're at home and you'rethinking I don't know what I'm
walking into, this littlenervous, I'd say you see a guy
like Ben here and you see hisother staff members.
They are inviting, they'rewelcoming.
There's nobody in here judginganybody.
You can tell it's just kind ofa good place to be man.
So I think that's powerful.
(23:22):
Talk a little bit about themedication.
Some people have it.
We know you need it forsomething or another.
But what are some things peopleare doing wrong instead of
doing like?
So, for example, you knowyou're focusing so much on the
medication and it's like well,this makes me feel better.
Therefore I need to do it Right, spend all this money doing it,
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see a doctor and get it alldone.
But what could they have beendoing?
Uh, you know, obviously workingout would be one, but what are
some other things that peopleare missing that you're seeing
out there Well, so you look at,I mean, there's a pill for
everything these days.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Right, we have cholesterol medication, we have
antidepressants, we havemedications for bone density, we
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have you know, there's a pillthat you can take for everything
, and the tough thing and itgoes back to motivation again is
it's really easy to have highcholesterol and take a pill
every day to try and fix it.
It is not easy to becomemotivated to change your diet.
Start resistance training, getsunlight, get good exercise,
move more.
Those are all habits that youhave to implement, but it's a
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choice that you have to make tobecome healthier, instead of the
doctor saying just take thisand you'll live, hopefully,
longer.
Um and and that is, it's toughbecause there isn't an easy
button Um, that none of thisstuff is easy.
You know, and that's one of thethings that, again, I think
anytime fitness excels in is, ismeeting people at that junction
of this.
Stuff is easy.
You know, and that's one of thethings that, again, I think
anytime fitness excels in is, ismeeting people at that junction
of all.
Right, you've made a choice.
Now let us support you in thatchoice.
Let us make it easy to come inthrough the doors.
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Uh, anything we can do to makeit easier for you to get in here
and at least just do something,um, is really our goal I think
it's super cool.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So so let let's make kind of like a top five list
Sure, things that you can do nottop five, but five things you
could do.
So you're talking about workingout whether that's anaerobic,
aerobic, whatever you need to doget the heart running a little
bit, get to the joints feelingbetter.
Sunlight you said that was kindof a biggie.
I think the sunlight is anunderrated factor.
The more research we do on it,the more we find in that vitamin
(25:32):
D received from the sun is thebest way to do it.
Three you talk about eatingright.
I think that's kind of a biggie.
I think that the problem withAmerica today is sometimes it's
so easy not to eat right.
Everything in front of you isnot right.
You got to spend a little bitmore time planning the other way
, say, maybe supplements.
Potentially it may help you getover that hump that you're at
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at one point.
And then I think that, just ingeneral, just restfulness is a
big thing.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Sleep is probably the biggest stone left unturned for
most people.
And it fuels a hormone cascadein your body that not only makes
you feel better mentally, butit also, you know, for men
people who get an average ofeight hours of sleep a day they
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have a significant bump intestosterone.
You know.
It's what allows your tissuesto heal.
So if you have that tendonitisand you're getting two hours of
sleep a night, it's going totake twice as long for that to
go away.
It also helps your mental state.
So it's been shown that peoplehave a higher propensity of
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depressive symptoms if they havea lack of sleep.
So it literally supportseverything in that ecosystem
that you were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Man, I love that, and even you talk about what
happens when you're working outmaybe a little dopamine release
from accomplishing a goal, thesekinds of things.
So, and I'm always a big fan ofto go back to, we talked all
about motivation today.
Set a goal, that sometimescreates the motivation in and of
itself, and I've had somebusiness leaders who came in to
me and they talk about impostersyndrome.
(27:11):
You ever hear about thisimposter syndrome, rob?
I'm feeling like everybody'slooking to me to be this thing
and I don't know if I'm thatthing.
It's like, well, you are, youare, you're just going through a
struggle.
But set yourself a goal and itmight be a small one, it might
be something like every day.
This week I'm going to walk onelap around the community.
Fine, there's a goal, go do it,you go, do it, you do it.
(27:34):
And, uh, it's been shown thatyou release a little bit of
dopamine.
Here's a little fun one andwe're gonna go on a different
path.
But you know, when you go tovegas, vegas has got this
figured out, so you're gonnaspend more money.
And what vegas figured out issometimes when you're playing
the slot machines.
Have you ever seen the onewhere, you know, maybe it's a
one dollar.
I don't even know how muchslots cost these days.
But let's say you put a dollarin and you pull the little lever
and it goes oh, you won.
And you win 50 cent, and whatthey figured is you're losing.
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But when you hear those bellsringing and the congratulations,
all of a sudden that littledopamine release comes out.
Oh, and you feel good.
So you do more of it, right?
And so they just figured thisout.
Figure it out for your own life.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Right, absolutely Well, and that's what we were
talking about with thesupplements.
Like the, the whole goal behinda supplement could just be one
small motivating factor that'seasy to do right in the day.
That then you know, you getthat little dopamine hit.
You go, hey, I'm, I'm startingout on the right track.
And then boom, you just keepgoing on the right track.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Keep taking those supplements, baby.
It was funny by one of theowners of GNC when I worked
there.
He used to say, and he wouldpick out other places that he
considered not to be legitimate.
And he'd say, yeah, you go overthere, you're just going to pee
it all out.
That's why, you know, I'm like,oh man, all right man.
That's a good sales tactic hey,whatever you got right.
So, man well, super cool stufftoday.
(28:50):
I think there's a lot of thingsthat we tell people that you
are doing for yourself on aday-to-day that I like to do on
a day-to-day, but this is aboutfinding your motivation For you.
This is such a part of yourlife it's probably not even
really that hard to get themotivation.
Yeah, sometimes it is.
But you and I were talkingduring the Dragon Boat Race and
(29:13):
we were talking to somebody whosaid, hey, what would you
recommend for me?
I'm trying to get into workingout.
I said well, here's my bigtakeaway Everybody has to have
their own little mantras.
I said when I work out as muchas I do, it's kind of a
lifestyle.
I have learned to be like that.
But sometimes you go home andyou don't want to work out.
You just honestly don't have itin you.
I said that is the time when Iknow I most need to work out.
(29:37):
It's not even close.
You know, if I go home and I'mfeeling like, yeah, let's go do
this thing, I just drank my youknow, whatever, then it's easy.
But when you come home and youknow, maybe you feel like the
world is on your shoulders.
Maybe something didn't go rightat work and you just want to go
get in bed and watch a TV show.
I'm like man this one is gameon.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I got to go do the workout.
That's my recommendation.
You know what I'm sayingAbsolutely Well, and I think a
lot of this can be grounded infun and play.
You know, it might sound weird,but as an adult having fun
playing it's huge.
That's why you see a lot ofgrown men like us.
We go out there and play golfright it's.
It's a mental break from allthe stresses of the day, and if
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you can start incorporating thatinto any type of healthy habit,
uh, it's.
For me, it's something thatI've been able to do over the
last 10 years in the gym.
I started out and you know Iwas not doing the assessment
part for myself.
I didn't have any specific planthat I was following it, but it
was just an enjoyable thing.
It was a social interaction.
(30:40):
Yeah so if you can find somepiece of this that is fun and
that is a break from your day today and turn it into almost
play, then it doesn't matter somuch what you're doing.
Almost play, then it doesn'tmatter so much what you're doing
.
Eventually, that will lead itsway into okay, we've made it
this far.
How do we start pulling thoselevers, maximizing things that
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you know again, taking our timein here?
How do we now get the most outof our time in here.
But if you can just make yourway into a gym or build a gym at
home, go take a walk outsidesomething.
Make some part of it enjoyable.
That way, when you hit thosetimes where, man, I really don't
feel like doing that today, itwas a long day at work, or man,
I'm exhausted because I justdidn't sleep right last night
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Once you find that enjoyment init, let that be the thing that
kind of leads you into the rest.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
If you can make it something you're looking forward
to for sure.
I agree completely, and there'sa thing that I tell a lot of
employees and I believe thatgreat businesses it starts with
a foundation of leadership thatunderstands human needs, and I
believe that in the businesssetting and we talked about this
the other day I believe thatyou have to take care of your
clients and your business people.
(31:53):
You have to make sure thatyou're making money and that you
have a great model, but youalso have to take care of your
family.
You can't just spend 24 hours aday at work.
You got to take care of yourfamily, but the third part of
that equation is you have totake care of yourself, and
sometimes that means look, youworked hard all day, you spent
some time with the family, butsometimes you need some personal
time too and, depending on howyou like to use your personal
(32:15):
time, do something constructive.
Man, Go to the gym, get thatblood pumping and you know it's
the old cliche like oh, I lovethe burn and it sounds silly and
people think it's cliche, buttruthfully, it is actually a
thing that you can start to lookforward to.
You know you're making progress.
The burn creates the processYep, yep.
Progress.
The burn creates the processYep, yep, absolutely so.
(32:35):
And then process leads toprogress and all that good stuff
.
All right, listen, man.
You know you, you get a lot ofvalue today, but one thing I
want to emphasize.
I don't maybe even want to kindof leave off.
You know we've got a fewminutes left.
You made that career jump, yeah, and the way I look at it is,
at one point in your life youknew very much that you want to
be a pharmacist.
You're probably a hell of apharmacist, and so you were
successful at it, and but youthen found that it wasn't really
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moving the needle, it reallywasn't where you're finding your
passion.
Tell me about that journey, forlet me rephrase that, give me
some tips you would have tosomebody who thinks they might
be making a journey, thatthey're not finding a
satisfaction in what theircareer is and they might need to
make a change.
Tell me about how you did it,what your tips would be for them
(33:18):
.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, absolutely Well , and it goes back to kind of
what we were just talking about.
If you've lost all enjoyment insomething, if you're finding
yourself at rock bottom in termsof your motivations behind
something, or maybe somethingthat you at one point in time
believed in is no longer thething that you believe in, you
(33:39):
just need to start turning overrocks.
It's going to be messy, it'snot going to be perfect, there
is no science to it.
I can't reach out to one ofyour viewers and be like this is
the step-by-step process forwhat changing your entire life
looks like, because nobody knowswhat that's going to look like.
Uh, but as you start to turnover those pieces for me it was.
(34:01):
I got my personal trainercertification while I was a
pharmacist, Cause I was like allright, I want, I want to take
some people and turn them intoclients and see if I can be
successful at this other thing,you know.
So I spent some money doingthat, found out, hey, I don't
really have time to do that, youknow.
(34:21):
So, oops, mistake one Soundedgood, but yeah, but it got
everything in my head turning,you know, it got all the wheels
turning towards.
You know, I really aminterested in this and I already
put some money down on tryingto make this happen and it just
it led into a bunch of otherdecisions that weren't
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necessarily easy to make andthey haven't all been perfect,
but it was just starting to dosomething.
You know, if you've beensitting on something that you're
like I think this would beawesome, I really want to do it,
but now it's just not the time.
There's never going to be aperfect time yeah.
And there's never going to be aperfect plan around it.
The important thing is just tostart the journey towards
(35:03):
whatever that thing is and justtake a chance on yourself.
Yeah, because nobody else isgoing to take a chance on you.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Man, I agree completely.
And you said you don't have astep-by-step, but the biggest
step-by-step should be the first, for everybody.
You know, the first thing isacknowledging that you do need
to make a change.
Sometimes it's just, you know,if you're not feeling the joy,
you're feeling like maybe thingsare going beyond your career,
into your personal life, that'sa good giveaway that maybe
(35:32):
something's not quite right.
The next thing is, you know,turn over some rocks.
I love that you said thatbecause, at the end of the day,
how do you know unless you starttrying some things and then
hopefully find something youactually have a passion about?
Maybe it's photography, maybeit's working out, maybe it's,
you know, for all we know,knitting sweaters.
I don't know, but you got tofind something and take that
little incremental step to it.
(35:53):
I really think that's powerful,because sometimes you're out
there, you feel like again theweight of the world's on your
shoulders and you say but, buthey, this is my little channel.
Human beings, man, they live onhope.
We live on hope, man, and.
And so if you have no hope,that might be the sense that
that's leading to yourdepression, and whatever may be
the case not saying anybody'sdepressed, but you get the idea.
(36:15):
So well, man, that's reallycool stuff.
Ben Mr Fertwinger Fertwingler.
You're so close God man, I don'tknow why I can't get this
Fertwingler.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's not that hard.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
We're going to have to edit that one.
Maybe I'll leave it in.
But no man, listen.
Anybody wants to get into yourgym.
Tell us about how they can findyou and what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Absolutely.
Yeah, you can look us up.
It's anytimefitnesscom and thenyou just search Merle's Inlet.
We're on Instagram, we're onFacebook.
Anytime Fitness, merle's Inlet.
Nice, check us out.
All right, man?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Awesome, thanks for being on the information today.
As always, thanks for the hat,and for those of you at home,
that's what I want you to takeaway.
Motivation is everywhere aroundyou and sometimes it finds so
hard to really to grasp.
But look at your life, look athow you can change it around and
always look to inspire others.
Sometimes the best motivationyou can get is in finding
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somebody else that you caninspire, and there's always
somebody you can inspire.
So go out and be your best, andI would like to say thank you
to all of our viewers.
Please make sure to continue tolike and share us on social
media of your choice, thanks tosome of our sponsors,
carolina-based real estate andconstruction, greg Rolls, legacy
Theater, and look, we'll seeyou all next time on the Leader
Mentality Show with Rob Clements.
(37:28):
You.
Welcome to the Leader Mentality Show.
This is Rob Clemens, and we areat a special location today.
For those of you who cannottell it's not the normal leader
mentality sign in the backgroundbecause it's even better we're
actually live at Anytime Fitnessin Merles Inlet, south Carolina
.
We've got a great guest, butbefore I get to him, I want to
talk a little bit about whatyou're trying to do as a leader.
(00:43):
Part of great leadership islearning yourself.
You've got to know yourselffirst and foremost if you're
trying to do as a leader, andpart of great leadership is
learning yourself.
You got to know yourself firstand foremost if you're in
leadership, and then you canspread your knowledge to other
people.
Sometimes it's encouragement,sometimes it's motivating people
, sometimes it's just helpingsomebody get grounded.
But what do we do when we'retrying to motivate ourselves?
Where do you find yourmotivation?
(01:05):
And so I've got a great guesttoday.
He is the owner of AnytimeFitness, mr Ben Furtwengler
Furtwengler.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I was so close.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh, you see now here's the thing, ben.
I spent some time in Germanyand it would be Furtwengler over
there.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It would, and it used to have an umlaut over the air.
An refert Wengler over there,it would, and it used to have an
umlaut over the end.
See, I'm trying to save it withmy German.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I spent like two weeks in Germany.
He sounded much more officialthan the actual man.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That was great.
Well, hey, man, welcome to theshow.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Good to have you by and by the way, everybody can
see what's going on in thebackground, so you know how
authentic this is.
It's really exciting to be here.
Ben even gave me my own hatearlier and you guys know I love
repping with a good hat.
So, man, this is cool man.
I really appreciate that.
Welcome on in.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, thanks for being on the show, man.
You've got a lot of stuff goingon.
Really cool club, greatlocation here.
I'm a fitness guy myself.
This is the kind of place youwant to go to if you're working
out what all has been going on.
Man, what have you been?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
up to yeah.
So we right now we're heavilyfocused on trying to build out
some of our training programs.
So we're big proponents ofhaving direction, using
assessments as a way to trackprogress.
One of the things we always sayis, if you're training without
assessing, you're just guessing.
Okay, all right.
And so we really stand truebehind how our training programs
(02:27):
work.
We have one called the A12program.
It's its own separate businessthing, so it's all A12-branded
stuff and we have one trainerwho's certified in that.
It is a body transformation12-week program.
So it's the amazing 12 programbody recomp, building muscle,
losing fat and we've seen someincredible transformations in
(02:48):
the club from that.
And then we have a secondseparate program that we're
working on building out rightnow, called Golf and Sports
Performance, and that isspecifically for our golfers in
the area as well as people thathave lower back pain, hip pain,
shoulder pain.
It's a little bit of a rehabprogram but also then turns into
power development, sorotational power.
(03:10):
And again, all of it is backedby assessing the progress, as
we're going to make sure thatwhat we're actually doing is
what you want it to do.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, I got you.
Well, I like it.
If you're not assessing, you'rejust guessing.
I think, that could apply tomore than just fitness either.
Right, it sure does Metrics andlife and standards.
But you said something therethat was kind of interesting to
me.
You mentioned about people whomight be having joint pain and
things like that.
I find that very interestingbecause one of the things that
happens, especially if you arephysically fit, sometimes you
(03:41):
get joint pains.
And what is something that youwould say to somebody who you
know they have some joint painsand they're trying to make them
better through the process offitness?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Sure, sure.
What is real easy and what alot of people will do is
completely stop.
Yeah, you know they'll haltprogress.
They'll have tendonitis is yourbiggest one, right?
Yeah, yeah, and it's painful.
Tendinitis is no joke, you know.
And they will just completelystop working out.
Rest ice, the rice protocol,rest ice, compression, elevation
(04:14):
.
Unfortunately, that's probablyone of the worst things that you
can do.
What we focus on is workingwith connective tissue and soft
tissue, assessing movement,again assessment.
You're going to hear me say thata lot probably, and looking at
how the body is moving, a lot ofpeople when they get tendonitis
, it's actually from impropermovement.
(04:35):
So either your knee is a bigone, right, if your hips are not
mobile enough, your knee willnot track properly.
And you get a?
Mobile enough, your knee willnot track properly and you get a
it's.
It's like a door hinge that'sbeing pulled down by a heavy
door and over time that movementwears down on.
You know the door hinge, or yourknee in this case and so we
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look at how is movement breakingdown?
How do we then manipulate thosetissues to allow for proper
movement in the hips and theankles Hips and ankles are two
very big ones to allow for thatjoint to then track in its
proper position.
A lot of times that in and ofitself takes time, which means
you're now stepping away fromheavy loads, which is where
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people typically tend toexperience that tendonitis, and
you're taking a look at overallfunctional movement, which means
okay, we've lightened the load,we're really assessing how our
body's moving.
That takes, you know, a fewweeks.
Usually, by the time that'sdone, the tendonitis has kind of
calmed down.
Now we have you moving properly.
Now we start adding the weightback on and all of a sudden,
(05:39):
magically, the tendonitis isgone.
We're now moving more weightthan what we had before and
we're doing it pain-free.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Man.
So if you're out there and youlisten, you have tendonitis.
Yeah, that would be one of thethings right there you should be
listening to, and that makes alot of sense.
I like what you said, becausewhen a door is too heavy on the
hinge, it has to relieve itselfsome way or another, and a lot
of times what you see is youmight see a little cracking or a
little pulling away from the,from the hinge, from because
it's got to give somewhere.
(06:06):
So our bodies are the same way.
Really cool, man.
Um, and then you talk about,kind of like fixing the problem
and then building up on top ofit.
Um, give me, give me a successstory.
That's happened at your clubhere.
You know what?
What's something that you'veseen.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Um, well, we've seen so one of our.
I don't know if I can say names.
We keep the names on the yeah.
So we have a lady.
She's in her 90s and she whenshe first started coming in here
, we have a little curb overthere.
She could barely step onto itby herself.
Now she comes walking up, shecan walk right up on top of that
(06:43):
curve.
She doesn't have to go aroundto the ramp anymore.
She can open the door just fine.
And you know, with her itwasn't let's stack a bunch of
load on top of her.
With her it was more of aquality of life thing she wasn't
trying to beat up.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
She's not squatting 350.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's where I wanted this story to end up with.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
She's now bench pressing.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Professional bench pressing.
Professional power lifter.
Yeah, no, not at all.
Uh, but no.
But now she knows exercises todo on her own, as well as
stretching techniques andmobility techniques that allow
her to stand up and sit down onher own.
You know, we we have her overthere on the trx bands doing a
single leg squat, whereas shecouldn't even step up onto her
curve when she first came inhere.
Yeah, yeah, um, and so it'sthose small successes that
honestly make the biggest impactin people's lives.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I mean, I think it's like it's an amazing thing.
You know, the leader mentalityshow is about that, and that's
why, when we talked the otherday and we'll get back to some
of this stuff, but you know, wewere talking about what is
leadership and how do youinspire others, and that's part
of leadership it's inspiringothers and it's helping others
grow.
I think a good leader helpseverybody in their domain get
better, right?
So you're taking people whomaybe sometimes might feel like
(07:49):
I don't know if I have any hope,and you're giving them hope
through this.
The coolest part of this story,though, is she was 90-something
, or maybe in her 90s.
Yep, that's incredible, man.
I feel like so many people.
They get to a point where theyfeel like, oh, you know, I'm too
old for this, I'm too old forthat, and she said, no, the heck
with that, I'm not too old foranything.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, well, we have one of our members who's
here every single day.
We track our members and howmany times they're swiping in
throughout the month.
Yeah, so on a day-to-day basis.
If you swipe in, that counts asone we three months.
He's been here every single dayfor three months.
He's 63 years old and hedeadlifts 518 pounds.
(08:26):
Wow, okay.
So, you have a mixture of thosethings.
You know, there's some peoplethat are in here for performance
, right, he's obviously on adifferent level than the other
lady we were just talking about.
But we're able to help everybody, and the reason that we're able
to help everybody is because wetake our time understanding
your goals, setting those smalland achievable goals, smart
(08:48):
goals I'm sure you've heard that.
Yeah, for sure For sure, and ithelps us stay focused on what is
it that you're looking to getout of this place?
You know it's easy to come inhere and hop on the treadmill
for 10 minutes, do every singlemachine that's in here and walk
away from it, accomplishingessentially nothing except for
you know you've burned someenergy, but what was the actual
(09:09):
goal behind that?
So we really help people sitdown and focus on.
I'm going to a gym three days aweek.
How do I maximize the potentialof that time that I'm putting
in already?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, I dig it, man Lay, the course Don't just come
in and kind of haphazardly dothings, but I had this image in
my head of, you know, the guywho comes in with a two liter
bottle of water or whatever.
It is a two gallon, I guess youknow and and and you know
they're, they're going to everymachine, but there's a whole lot
of talking involved and a wholelot of theatrics involved uh,
(09:41):
where, versus you know, justcoming in and being like here's
my game plan.
I believe sometimes a shortgood workout is better than a
long not good workout.
I know that sounds kind ofobvious, but I think that's a
problem sometimes.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well, and seeing that progress, then you know harking
back to what we initially weretalking about seeing that
progress then becomes its ownmotivator.
Yeah, it can be really tough inthe beginning if you come in
here Most people, if you've beensedentary for a while, you come
into the gym and kind of doanything and you'll find some
success.
But then it very quicklyplateaus and it becomes very
(10:16):
hard to move the needle on thatunless you do have a plan in
place and unless you are focusedon what is the goal of me
coming in here?
And it's really easy to losemotivation if you start coming
in here, see a little bit ofprogress and then that progress
halts Whereas you create abehavior and create a habit and
it's centered around one goaland you start seeing that
(10:37):
continued little progress.
Over time it becomes its ownmotivator.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well, and that's true .
I do think there's that naturalthing.
Or sometimes you don'timmediately start seeing success
, you know, and then you feellike, oh, what am I doing here?
But the metrics are more thanjust your weight 100%.
So I think there's a lot ofgreat stuff here.
Well, let's kind of move on tosome other topics, but before we
get into it, I do have to say,me and this guy, we did a little
(11:03):
bit of dragon boat a coupleweeks ago we did yeah, and we
did not win.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
No we did not.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But now here it goes.
So we're training all year long.
We're going to come back strongnext year.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's right.
That's right, you got to keepthe goal in mind.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right, got to keep the goal in mind.
We're going to have to get somestrokes going and the whole
nine yards, but anyway.
So yeah, but man, we're goingto hit the dragon boat.
We'll make sure we do some goodstuff with that.
Talk about just that scenario,though, when you have a because
this is all about motivationwhat is something you would tell
somebody that you know they'dcome in and maybe they haven't
(11:38):
had that success right off thebat?
How's a way to motivate them to?
You know, make sure they arestaying in the gym and coming
back.
That.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
How's the way to motivate them, to make sure they
are staying in the gym andcoming back?
Sure, well, you run into thatsituation all the time.
You run into periods of highmotivation and periods of low
motivation.
Again, goal setting isabsolutely huge If you don't
have a goal and you're justcoming in here with nothing in
mind.
Some people are able to do that.
It's not like it's impossibleto do, but typically, once the
(12:04):
motivation wears away, if thereis no goal in mind, a lot of
times you see people kind ofwalk away from it, right, um,
whereas our job in here is toreach out to those people.
So, that is something that we do, we will constantly.
We we have ways to track likewho's who's?
Uh, coming close to a training.
So, uh, and then we'll reach outto them and try to get them to
(12:25):
come back in here All of ourmembers.
They get a monthly meeting witha coach so they can sit down,
but largely what we do in thatmonthly meeting is we have a
body comp scanner to kind ofcatch a baseline of where
they're at, yeah, and then we'reable to see if any progress has
been made and if it hasn't beenmade, we also can load a
program into their app and givethem something to follow.
(12:50):
Now, as far as someone whodoesn't have any motivation at
all to come in here, it's atough one, you know.
You do have to findself-motivation and it can look
like a lot of different things,but honestly, the people that
are the most successful in hereare the people that have
self-discipline, which that iswhat will stand the test of time
, whereas motivation is fleeting.
(13:12):
And people see that in theirday-to-day life.
People see that in their gymlife.
People even see that in theirrelationships.
It's really easy to be a greathusband when everything's rosy
and both of you are in goodmoods and you have time for each
other.
It becomes very difficult whennow you both are stressed out.
(13:32):
Maybe you have a new animal, ormaybe something's happened with
the house or with the finances.
The thing that holds all thattogether is the self-discipline
to one understand what the goalis In a relationship.
The goal is to be partners inlife and to lift each other up
and be successful In the gym.
Having a goal of is it weightloss?
Is it muscle gain?
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If it's building a healthyhabit, even just having that
goal in mind will then createthe self-discipline that will
get you through the times of lowmotivation.
I dig that dude.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, I mean that makes a lot of sense.
Well, because it's everybodydoesn't have the same goal.
Sure, you know I, you know, asyou know, I own a real estate
company too and I always tellpeople you know you.
When somebody says I want tosell my home, it's like the
first thing we have to know asan agent is well, what's your
goal?
Are you trying to maximize theprice of your home?
Are you trying to sell reallyfast?
Are you trying to meet somemidway in between?
(14:26):
And if you don't know that, youcan't really guide them
properly.
Where do supplements come intoplay?
Because I've always kind offound and now you'll know, we
don't pre-talk about this stuffbecause he may be like
supplements, ah.
But, I've always found they're agreat motivator.
If you hit a little lull, youjust need that extra little
something.
I mean what?
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
yeah, uh, well, actually it's funny you say that
.
So when I when I was the guywalking around with my gallon of
water, jug doing all themachines in here all at once,
because I definitely lived thatlife for a long time uh, and
part of that is just the funbehind it.
Right, you have that likearnold schwarzenegger mentality.
That's what I wanted to be.
It's so true, though, man,because it does, it gets you in
(15:06):
the mindset It'll carry youthrough six months.
It won't carry you through 10years, and I totally forgot what
you asked.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well, it was about supplements, Sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So yeah, he was taking a different form of
supplements than what you'retalking about?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh yeah, maybe All natural those are in their own
category.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But no, I think supplements are a great tool,
and I used pre-workouts when Iwas younger as a way to motivate
me, because and it's funny thisalso ties into several other
things.
But when I was in college Ididn't have a whole lot of money
.
So if I spent $60 on apre-workout supplement and then
I take a scoop of thatpre-workout supplement, you
(15:45):
better believe I'm going to thegym.
Oh yeah, because there's skinin the game, right?
$60 doesn't sound like a lotnow, but when I was in college I
was scraping by.
Hey man, college students, wefeel you, I've been there, Yep
yep, and so that was somethingthat I found that was a
motivator.
It was like, all right, if Itake this thing, it means I'm
going to the gym and I went toschool in Toledo, ohio, so
(16:07):
sometimes it was negative 13degrees out there and I was
walking a couple miles to thegym, oh yeah.
So motivation was low.
But if I take that it wasjacked was the supplement of the
day.
If I took that scoop of that,it was at least a mental trigger
of like, all right, this is inmy system now.
(16:28):
I paid good money for this thing, I'm going to the gym, I'm not
going to miss.
And you can use supplements,you can use food choices as a
way to fuel healthy habits.
So a supplement doesn'tnecessarily a lot of them don't
do a whole lot, because a lot ofus lack sleep, a lot of us eat
poorly, a lot of us don't go tothe gym, and if you're not
(16:50):
turning over those big rocks,the supplements aren't going to
turn them over for you.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I mean, I think I used to work at a general
nutrition center back in the day.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That was my college experience and you know.
But people come in and they'relooking for the supplements to
do all the work and I think it'smore of a tool.
And you know we're making somefun of the water guy and, you
know, maybe the big headphonesguy but the truth of the matter
is is, I think whatever you needto do to get yourself in the
mindset to go do work and Ithink sometimes you know as much
(17:22):
as you know we're you know it'sfun to pick on them, but the
truth is, when you go out thereand your your, maybe your gym
attire makes you feel a way.
The music you're listening tomakes you feel a way that
supplement that you took thatyou're like man, this is going
to turn the corner.
That supplement that you tookthat you're like man this is
going to turn the corner.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That is where the best things happen.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely well,and it's the same thing, you
know, if you wake up in themorning and you have a giant
stack of pancakes with a bunchof syrup all over it, not that,
hey, I love pancakes.
No, no, I get you, but itstarts out your day kind of in
the hole.
You're like all right, my firstdecision out of the gate was
sugar and carbs, you know.
And if my goal is weight loss,I've already flown in the face
(18:00):
of you've already done it andprobably that's your second
decision of the day.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Your first decision was hit the snooze button right.
Second decision was right,pancakes, it's like oh man well,
what turn around here?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
yeah, yeah.
So to me it supplements.
Honestly, they play a largepsychological role of and the
same thing with food where, like, if you start off your day and
you have some type of protein oryou know a healthy green shake,
or one healthy decisiontypically cascades into several
more, and how you start the daytypically is how you end the day
(18:30):
.
So, starting off with thatright mentality, if you start
off and you have you know agreen supplement that you take
and it makes you feel likeyou're on top of the world when
you take it, who really careswhat it's doing internally If it
puts you in that mindset tocontinue making those healthy
decisions?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's a win for you at that point.
No, no doubt about it.
Well, cool stuff, man.
I mean we could talk about thisall day, but if we do, we won't
get to some of the reallyinteresting topics here.
Finding your motivation that isour theme of today's show.
We talked a little bit aboutthis so far, but for you, this
wasn't your first career, as Iunderstand it right.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Tell us a little bit about how you got here, man Sure
, so I shared.
I was in Toledo, ohio, forschool.
I went to the University ofToledo.
Shout out Toledo, there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Actually, we have a lot of Ohioans in the area.
I know there are a ton of them.
We're in Myrtle Beach for thosewho don't know.
But yes, it is crazy the amountof people Myrtle is in it, to
be specific.
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
So I went to school to be a pharmacist.
I got my doctorate and thengraduated from that, worked for
Rite Aid, worked for Walgreens,did that for 10 years and over
the course of time I felt mymotivations waning.
Some of the things that we weredoing didn't feel like we were
setting people on the righttrack for health, which to me
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was the overall goal as apharmacist.
My mother growing up she hadcancer.
That's kind of what motivatedme to become a pharmacist.
My mother growing up she hadcancer.
That's kind of what motivatedme to become a pharmacist.
And so getting people healthy,explaining their medications and
kind of setting them on thatright track was what the whole
goal of this pharmacy thing wasFor sure.
Nice, Ten years into it I wasseeing the same people every
(20:16):
single day, or at least once amonth.
Their lab values were stayingthe same, they were on the same
medications, they weren't reallymoving that needle at all.
It was the same thing as cominginto the gym and working out
without a clue of what your endgoal is, and to me that just
didn't feel right, and so I feltthat pull in a different
direction and at the time, andobviously still now today.
(20:37):
This was always what I did formy own health to keep me off of
medications which to me shouldbe kind of.
The end goal of medications iswe should see people come off of
them and get healthier.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It makes sense to me.
You know you're not trying tosign a lifetime contract to take
whatever.
This thing is right, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And so, over the course of time just working with
different people and seeingthem in this kind of state of
unwell they weren't necessarilyon their deathbed, um, and they
were taking medicaid medicationsto keep them from being on
their deathbed, but they werenever really progressing into a
state of health.
Yeah, you know it was there's alot of miserable people day in
(21:15):
and day out, and it wasn'teveryone, you know there were
definitely exceptions to thatrule, but, um, at some point in
time it just felt like, uh, Iwant to try something else.
Um, and this is what I'vealways done to keep myself
healthy, this is what I'vealways done that, uh, you know,
it's transformed my life in alot of ways, both mentally and
physically, no doubt.
(21:35):
And so when COVID hit, a lot ofthings changed and we
definitely don't have to diveinto that.
Good old COVID, it keeps ongiving Right, but that was kind
of the catalyst for all rightlot about it.
But I really like anytimefitness as a franchise.
I really like what their viewon working out and health is,
(21:59):
and I think I want to open oneof those yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Tell me just in summarize their view on working
out.
Help, what would you describe?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
it.
So it's very much so.
It's the main motivator behindanytime fitness is making it
easy and accessible for everyone.
Okay, so, whether you're apower lifter or a bodybuilder,
or whether you're 90 years oldand just trying to walk up on a
curb, um, it's a gym foreverybody.
And the way we break down thosebarriers is by being open 24
(22:30):
seven.
Uh, it's by having, it's byhaving over 5,000 locations and
it's by making a personalizedplan for every single person
that comes in here.
I dig that man.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Look, I've been a workout guy for most of my life
and I think even for anybody.
Sometimes it's intimidating.
Walking into a gym for thefirst time, you don't know what
you're walking into.
You don't know if there's goingto be some guy named Brutus at
the front.
What are you looking, you know,and so you go in and you're
automatically like there's thatlittle aversion, even if you're
(23:01):
do it all the time.
So if you're at home and you'rethinking I don't know what I'm
walking into, this littlenervous, I'd say you see a guy
like Ben here and you see hisother staff members.
They are inviting, they'rewelcoming.
There's nobody in here judginganybody.
You can tell it's just kind ofa good place to be man.
So I think that's powerful.
(23:22):
Talk a little bit about themedication.
Some people have it.
We know you need it forsomething or another.
But what are some things peopleare doing wrong instead of
doing like?
So, for example, you knowyou're focusing so much on the
medication and it's like well,this makes me feel better.
Therefore I need to do it Right, spend all this money doing it,
(23:44):
see a doctor and get it alldone.
But what could they have beendoing?
Uh, you know, obviously workingout would be one, but what are
some other things that peopleare missing that you're seeing
out there Well, so you look at,I mean, there's a pill for
everything these days.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Right, we have cholesterol medication, we have
antidepressants, we havemedications for bone density, we
(24:21):
have you know, there's a pillthat you can take for everything
, and the tough thing and itgoes back to motivation again is
it's really easy to have highcholesterol and take a pill
every day to try and fix it.
It is not easy to becomemotivated to change your diet.
Start resistance training, getsunlight, get good exercise,
move more.
Those are all habits that youhave to implement, but it's a
(24:41):
choice that you have to make tobecome healthier, instead of the
doctor saying just take thisand you'll live, hopefully,
longer.
Um and and that is, it's toughbecause there isn't an easy
button Um, that none of thisstuff is easy.
You know, and that's one of thethings that, again, I think
anytime fitness excels in is, ismeeting people at that junction
of this.
Stuff is easy.
You know, and that's one of thethings that, again, I think
anytime fitness excels in is, ismeeting people at that junction
of all.
Right, you've made a choice.
Now let us support you in thatchoice.
Let us make it easy to come inthrough the doors.
(25:03):
Uh, anything we can do to makeit easier for you to get in here
and at least just do something,um, is really our goal I think
it's super cool.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So so let let's make kind of like a top five list
Sure, things that you can do nottop five, but five things you
could do.
So you're talking about workingout whether that's anaerobic,
aerobic, whatever you need to doget the heart running a little
bit, get to the joints feelingbetter.
Sunlight you said that was kindof a biggie.
I think the sunlight is anunderrated factor.
The more research we do on it,the more we find in that vitamin
(25:32):
D received from the sun is thebest way to do it.
Three you talk about eatingright.
I think that's kind of a biggie.
I think that the problem withAmerica today is sometimes it's
so easy not to eat right.
Everything in front of you isnot right.
You got to spend a little bitmore time planning the other way
, say, maybe supplements.
Potentially it may help you getover that hump that you're at
(25:53):
at one point.
And then I think that, just ingeneral, just restfulness is a
big thing.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Sleep is probably the biggest stone left unturned for
most people.
And it fuels a hormone cascadein your body that not only makes
you feel better mentally, butit also, you know, for men
people who get an average ofeight hours of sleep a day they
(26:21):
have a significant bump intestosterone.
You know.
It's what allows your tissuesto heal.
So if you have that tendonitisand you're getting two hours of
sleep a night, it's going totake twice as long for that to
go away.
It also helps your mental state.
So it's been shown that peoplehave a higher propensity of
(26:42):
depressive symptoms if they havea lack of sleep.
So it literally supportseverything in that ecosystem
that you were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Man, I love that, and even you talk about what
happens when you're working outmaybe a little dopamine release
from accomplishing a goal, thesekinds of things.
So, and I'm always a big fan ofto go back to, we talked all
about motivation today.
Set a goal, that sometimescreates the motivation in and of
itself, and I've had somebusiness leaders who came in to
me and they talk about impostersyndrome.
(27:11):
You ever hear about thisimposter syndrome, rob?
I'm feeling like everybody'slooking to me to be this thing
and I don't know if I'm thatthing.
It's like, well, you are, youare, you're just going through a
struggle.
But set yourself a goal and itmight be a small one, it might
be something like every day.
This week I'm going to walk onelap around the community.
Fine, there's a goal, go do it,you go, do it, you do it.
(27:34):
And, uh, it's been shown thatyou release a little bit of
dopamine.
Here's a little fun one andwe're gonna go on a different
path.
But you know, when you go tovegas, vegas has got this
figured out, so you're gonnaspend more money.
And what vegas figured out issometimes when you're playing
the slot machines.
Have you ever seen the onewhere, you know, maybe it's a
one dollar.
I don't even know how muchslots cost these days.
But let's say you put a dollarin and you pull the little lever
and it goes oh, you won.
And you win 50 cent, and whatthey figured is you're losing.
(27:57):
But when you hear those bellsringing and the congratulations,
all of a sudden that littledopamine release comes out.
Oh, and you feel good.
So you do more of it, right?
And so they just figured thisout.
Figure it out for your own life.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Right, absolutely Well, and that's what we were
talking about with thesupplements.
Like the, the whole goal behinda supplement could just be one
small motivating factor that'seasy to do right in the day.
That then you know, you getthat little dopamine hit.
You go, hey, I'm, I'm startingout on the right track.
And then boom, you just keepgoing on the right track.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Keep taking those supplements, baby.
It was funny by one of theowners of GNC when I worked
there.
He used to say, and he wouldpick out other places that he
considered not to be legitimate.
And he'd say, yeah, you go overthere, you're just going to pee
it all out.
That's why, you know, I'm like,oh man, all right man.
That's a good sales tactic hey,whatever you got right.
So, man well, super cool stufftoday.
(28:50):
I think there's a lot of thingsthat we tell people that you
are doing for yourself on aday-to-day that I like to do on
a day-to-day, but this is aboutfinding your motivation For you.
This is such a part of yourlife it's probably not even
really that hard to get themotivation.
Yeah, sometimes it is.
But you and I were talkingduring the Dragon Boat Race and
(29:13):
we were talking to somebody whosaid, hey, what would you
recommend for me?
I'm trying to get into workingout.
I said well, here's my bigtakeaway Everybody has to have
their own little mantras.
I said when I work out as muchas I do, it's kind of a
lifestyle.
I have learned to be like that.
But sometimes you go home andyou don't want to work out.
You just honestly don't have itin you.
I said that is the time when Iknow I most need to work out.
(29:37):
It's not even close.
You know, if I go home and I'mfeeling like, yeah, let's go do
this thing, I just drank my youknow, whatever, then it's easy.
But when you come home and youknow, maybe you feel like the
world is on your shoulders.
Maybe something didn't go rightat work and you just want to go
get in bed and watch a TV show.
I'm like man this one is gameon.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I got to go do the workout.
That's my recommendation.
You know what I'm sayingAbsolutely Well, and I think a
lot of this can be grounded infun and play.
You know, it might sound weird,but as an adult having fun
playing it's huge.
That's why you see a lot ofgrown men like us.
We go out there and play golfright it's.
It's a mental break from allthe stresses of the day, and if
(30:20):
you can start incorporating thatinto any type of healthy habit,
uh, it's.
For me, it's something thatI've been able to do over the
last 10 years in the gym.
I started out and you know Iwas not doing the assessment
part for myself.
I didn't have any specific planthat I was following it, but it
was just an enjoyable thing.
It was a social interaction.
(30:40):
Yeah so if you can find somepiece of this that is fun and
that is a break from your day today and turn it into almost
play, then it doesn't matter somuch what you're doing.
Almost play, then it doesn'tmatter so much what you're doing
.
Eventually, that will lead itsway into okay, we've made it
this far.
How do we start pulling thoselevers, maximizing things that
(31:01):
you know again, taking our timein here?
How do we now get the most outof our time in here.
But if you can just make yourway into a gym or build a gym at
home, go take a walk outsidesomething.
Make some part of it enjoyable.
That way, when you hit thosetimes where, man, I really don't
feel like doing that today, itwas a long day at work, or man,
I'm exhausted because I justdidn't sleep right last night
(31:26):
Once you find that enjoyment init, let that be the thing that
kind of leads you into the rest.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
If you can make it something you're looking forward
to for sure.
I agree completely, and there'sa thing that I tell a lot of
employees and I believe thatgreat businesses it starts with
a foundation of leadership thatunderstands human needs, and I
believe that in the businesssetting and we talked about this
the other day I believe thatyou have to take care of your
clients and your business people.
(31:53):
You have to make sure thatyou're making money and that you
have a great model, but youalso have to take care of your
family.
You can't just spend 24 hours aday at work.
You got to take care of yourfamily, but the third part of
that equation is you have totake care of yourself, and
sometimes that means look, youworked hard all day, you spent
some time with the family, butsometimes you need some personal
time too and, depending on howyou like to use your personal
(32:15):
time, do something constructive.
Man, Go to the gym, get thatblood pumping and you know it's
the old cliche like oh, I lovethe burn and it sounds silly and
people think it's cliche, buttruthfully, it is actually a
thing that you can start to lookforward to.
You know you're making progress.
The burn creates the processYep, yep.
Progress.
The burn creates the processYep, yep, absolutely so.
(32:35):
And then process leads toprogress and all that good stuff
.
All right, listen, man.
You know you, you get a lot ofvalue today, but one thing I
want to emphasize.
I don't maybe even want to kindof leave off.
You know we've got a fewminutes left.
You made that career jump, yeah, and the way I look at it is,
at one point in your life youknew very much that you want to
be a pharmacist.
You're probably a hell of apharmacist, and so you were
successful at it, and but youthen found that it wasn't really
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moving the needle, it reallywasn't where you're finding your
passion.
Tell me about that journey, forlet me rephrase that, give me
some tips you would have tosomebody who thinks they might
be making a journey, thatthey're not finding a
satisfaction in what theircareer is and they might need to
make a change.
Tell me about how you did it,what your tips would be for them
(33:18):
.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, absolutely Well , and it goes back to kind of
what we were just talking about.
If you've lost all enjoyment insomething, if you're finding
yourself at rock bottom in termsof your motivations behind
something, or maybe somethingthat you at one point in time
believed in is no longer thething that you believe in, you
(33:39):
just need to start turning overrocks.
It's going to be messy, it'snot going to be perfect, there
is no science to it.
I can't reach out to one ofyour viewers and be like this is
the step-by-step process forwhat changing your entire life
looks like, because nobody knowswhat that's going to look like.
Uh, but as you start to turnover those pieces for me it was.
(34:01):
I got my personal trainercertification while I was a
pharmacist, Cause I was like allright, I want, I want to take
some people and turn them intoclients and see if I can be
successful at this other thing,you know.
So I spent some money doingthat, found out, hey, I don't
really have time to do that, youknow.
(34:21):
So, oops, mistake one Soundedgood, but yeah, but it got
everything in my head turning,you know, it got all the wheels
turning towards.
You know, I really aminterested in this and I already
put some money down on tryingto make this happen and it just
it led into a bunch of otherdecisions that weren't
(34:41):
necessarily easy to make andthey haven't all been perfect,
but it was just starting to dosomething.
You know, if you've beensitting on something that you're
like I think this would beawesome, I really want to do it,
but now it's just not the time.
There's never going to be aperfect time yeah.
And there's never going to be aperfect plan around it.
The important thing is just tostart the journey towards
(35:03):
whatever that thing is and justtake a chance on yourself.
Yeah, because nobody else isgoing to take a chance on you.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Man, I agree completely.
And you said you don't have astep-by-step, but the biggest
step-by-step should be the first, for everybody.
You know, the first thing isacknowledging that you do need
to make a change.
Sometimes it's just, you know,if you're not feeling the joy,
you're feeling like maybe thingsare going beyond your career,
into your personal life, that'sa good giveaway that maybe
(35:32):
something's not quite right.
The next thing is, you know,turn over some rocks.
I love that you said thatbecause, at the end of the day,
how do you know unless you starttrying some things and then
hopefully find something youactually have a passion about?
Maybe it's photography, maybeit's working out, maybe it's,
you know, for all we know,knitting sweaters.
I don't know, but you got tofind something and take that
little incremental step to it.
(35:53):
I really think that's powerful,because sometimes you're out
there, you feel like again theweight of the world's on your
shoulders and you say but, buthey, this is my little channel.
Human beings, man, they live onhope.
We live on hope, man, and.
And so if you have no hope,that might be the sense that
that's leading to yourdepression, and whatever may be
the case not saying anybody'sdepressed, but you get the idea.
(36:15):
So well, man, that's reallycool stuff.
Ben Mr Fertwinger Fertwingler.
You're so close God man, I don'tknow why I can't get this
Fertwingler.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's not that hard.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
We're going to have to edit that one.
Maybe I'll leave it in.
But no man, listen.
Anybody wants to get into yourgym.
Tell us about how they can findyou and what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Absolutely.
Yeah, you can look us up.
It's anytimefitnesscom and thenyou just search Merle's Inlet.
We're on Instagram, we're onFacebook.
Anytime Fitness, merle's Inlet.
Nice, check us out.
All right, man?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Awesome, thanks for being on the information today.
As always, thanks for the hat,and for those of you at home,
that's what I want you to takeaway.
Motivation is everywhere aroundyou and sometimes it finds so
hard to really to grasp.
But look at your life, look athow you can change it around and
always look to inspire others.
Sometimes the best motivationyou can get is in finding
(37:07):
somebody else that you caninspire, and there's always
somebody you can inspire.
So go out and be your best, andI would like to say thank you
to all of our viewers.
Please make sure to continue tolike and share us on social
media of your choice, thanks tosome of our sponsors,
carolina-based real estate andconstruction, greg Rolls, legacy
Theater, and look, we'll seeyou all next time on the Leader
Mentality Show with Rob Clements.
(37:28):
You.
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