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June 17, 2025 38 mins

What if the best leaders weren’t the ones at the center—but the ones who built teams that held each other accountable, coached each other up, and challenged each other to grow? 

In this episode of The Learn-It-All Podcast, Damon Lembi sits down with Keith Ferrazzi—#1 New York Times bestselling author and one of the most trusted voices in leadership transformation—to unpack his revolutionary new leadership model: Teamship

Ferrazzi lays out a clear roadmap for how to build teams that are high on trust, feedback, and co-creation—and low on ego, meetings, and top-down control. Whether you're leading a Fortune 500 company or a small business, this conversation will challenge the way you think about leadership, collaboration, and accountability. 


In this episode, you’ll learn: 


  • Why “Teamship” is replacing traditional leadership models 
  • How to build cultures of peer-to-peer feedback and shared accountability 
  • The three-layer framework every high-performing team needs 
  • How to engineer psychological safety, candor, and coaching into your team 
  • A simple practice to radically improve feedback and performance 
  • Why meetings might be your biggest bottleneck (and how to fix them) 
  • The difference between co-creation and collaboration—and why it matters 
  • Why AI should be treated like a team member, not a tool 
  • How Damon is applying Keith’s model to reinvent Learnit 
  • The power of redefining “team” around strategic rocks—not org charts 


Timestamps: 


00:00 – Keith on why we must reinvent leadership  

01:00 – The engineering mindset behind great team cultures  

03:00 – The rise of agile, Kaizen, and peer-led collaboration  

04:00 – From Never Eat Alone to Never Lead Alone  

06:00 – Building a challenge culture inside your team  

07:30 – The role of feedback, bonding, and trust  

09:00 – Damon’s college baseball story: peer accountability in action  

11:30 – Damon’s Learnit team diagnostic: from 2.8 to co-creation  

14:00 – Keith’s 3-column practice: achievements, struggles, and plans  

16:30 – The power of “Sherpas” vs. leaders  

18:00 – Real-time stress-testing: how to activate your whole team  

20:00 – Building feedback loops without meetings  

22:00 – Why frontline insight is gold  

24:00 – How Learnit co-creates training with customers  

26:00 – Peer-to-peer coaching and open 360s  

28:00 – Keith’s “layer cake” framework for Teamship  

30:00 – Applying Teamship to strategic rocks, not company culture  

32:00 – Reframing leadership as engineering  

33:00 – AI as a team member (not just tech)  

34:00 – Keith’s 8-week relationship course: Beyond Connections  

36:00 – The foster care story that changed everything  

37:00 – Final takeaways and Learnit’s 30-year anniversary


About Keith: 

Keith Ferrazzi is a #1 New York Times bestselling author, founder of Ferrazzi Greenlight, and one of the world’s leading experts on leadership, workplace transformation, and high-performance teams. His books include Never Eat Alone, Leading Without Authority, and his latest, Never Lead Alone. Through 20+ years of coaching executive teams at companies like General Motors, Delta, and Amazon, Keith has become a trusted voice for leaders who want to unlock bold growth through co-elevation and radical collaboration. 


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