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July 22, 2025 75 mins

What happens when you lead with humility, consistency, and care—instead of ego? In this uplifting and candid episode, Damon sits down with Peter Bissonnette, the former president of Shaw Communications and author of Count on Me. Peter pulls back the curtain on his remarkable leadership journey, from seminary days and military service to helming a $5.5B telecom powerhouse. Together, they explore the habits and values that shaped Shaw’s exceptional culture, why empathy and fairness matter most, and how leaders can be “counted on”—no matter their background. 

Jam-packed with real stories, hard-won tools, and lessons from both the boardroom and the bandstand, this episode is a blueprint for anyone looking to become a leader people believe in. Get ready to rethink what makes a lasting legacy—not just for companies, but for families—through the power of values-driven leadership. 

In this episode, you’ll learn: 

  • The culture-building power of shining a light on others, not yourself 
  • How Peter’s “Good Shepherd” philosophy (inspired by seminary days) became the foundation of his leadership style 
  • What it means to truly be “counted on”—and how personal adversity shaped Peter’s drive and fairness meter 
  • Practical tools for overcoming imposter syndrome and building self-belief, including the science of affirmations and visualization 
  • Why fit trumps credentials during hiring, and how to handle mis-hires with candor 
  • Inside Peter’s “leadership toolbox”—relationship-building, chameleon skills, candor, and the art of constructive feedback 
  • Behind-the-scenes negotiation stories, including a $2B Wall Street face-off and the lessons of win-win bargaining 
  • How music, photography, and creative passions make you a better leader and problem solver 
  • Tangible strategies to boost employee engagement—and transform dysfunction into unity 
  • Why leaders should be hero creators, not the heroes themselves 



Timestamps: 

00:00 – The power of focusing on the good in others 

00:24 – Damon introduces Peter Bissonnette and episode themes 

01:38 – How Shaw’s “we company” values fueled its success 

03:07 – First meeting with founder J.R. Shaw 

04:30 – The legacy-driven origins of Count on Me 

08:37 – Seminary days and the “Good Shepherd” approach to leadership 

11:09 – Peter’s tough childhood and the drive to be “counted on” 

15:57 – Advice for new leaders struggling with self-belief 

16:26 – Affirmations, visualization, and owning your own learning 

22:25 – How to handle a mis-hire (the “Dead Pillow” story) 

26:33 – Building your leadership toolbox: tools and traits that matter 

30:07 – How to accelerate leadership experience: Mentorship & reading 

32:01 – Lessons from Wall Street: The $2B Goldman Sachs negotiation 

44:29 – Taking risks, responsibility and earning founder’s trust 

47:57 – Win-win negotiations, fairness, and long-term relationships 

49:32 – How music and creativity fuel leadership 

54:59 – The role of photography and “extra languages” in solving problems 

57:32 – Transforming employee engagement at Shaw 

60:08 – Listening and acting on feedback to create belonging 

63:56 – Shining the spotlight and building trust-driven teams 

66:18 – How Peter personally connected with Shaw’s customers 

70:13 – Why Count on Me is a case study for young leaders 

72:50 – Where to find Peter and his book 

About Peter Bissonnette 

Peter Bissonnette is the former president of Shaw Communications, where he helped transform the...

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