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June 10, 2025 37 mins

Lawyers are busy! In-House lawyers don't need to do "extracurriculars," right? Think again. In this episode of The Legal Department, SVP and Senior Managing Counsel Kelley Barnett shares how building a nonprofit to help women lawyers helped her become a better lawyer and leader.


She also shares how making what became a viral LinkedIn post spurred a conversation about bullying women on maternity leave, which also helped her build influence inside her organization and out.


Kelley and Stacy share tips for making time for career development activities outside of your 9-5, while raising a family.


Additionally, Kelley addresses a listener's Office Hours question about how to get management experience in a flat legal department.


If you've been wondering whether you need to be "out there," this episode is for you.



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