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July 2, 2025 34 mins

In this episode of The Legal Lens Podcast, host Angela Reddock-Wright welcomes back legal minds Tony Tolbert and Adam Radinsky, co-hosts of the Pay the Tab podcast and co-teachers of what is believed to be the only law school course on reparations in the United States at UCLA School of Law.

This episode dives into the national and state-level movements for reparations for African-Americans, including updates on California’s legislative efforts, Tulsa’s controversial Greenwood Trust, and the broader political backlash against racial justice, truth-telling, and higher education.

Together, Tony and Adam break down what reparations really mean, why they must begin with truth and apology, and why half-measures like “roads to repair” are not enough—but still a step forward.

Key Topics Covered:

✅ What reparations are—and aren’t

✅ Tulsa, Oklahoma’s Greenwood Trust and critiques of “half-reparations”

✅ Updates on California’s reparations bills and why language matters

✅ UCLA’s pioneering course on reparations: how law students are being activated

✅ How “Pay the Tab” is building public will for truth and justice

✅ National bills, state momentum, and why the movement isn’t going away

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