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July 2, 2023 70 mins

Nathan Surendran is a Transition Engineer and principal consultant at Schema Consulting Limited, bringing with him an extensive knowledge of macro-scale systems and risks, and synthesising economic, energetic, and environmental factors.

Nathan is an active member of Degrowth Aotearoa New Zealand and passionately advocates for realistic, fact-based strategic decisions on issues of resilience and strong sustainability across all levels. Here Nathan helps bring much-needed understanding to some key concepts around energy efficiency and limits, degrowth, renewables and so much more!

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Nathan’s background and his work as a transition engineer
  • Biophysical constraints vs wishful thinking
  • Degrowth Aotearoa New Zealand and their advocacy work
  • Degrowth 101 – what is degrowth?
  • The challenges and limitations of green growth
  • The concept of net energy, and its decrease over time
  • The impact of renewables on total energy consumption
  • Are renewable energy technologies truly renewable or scalable?
  • Promoting and transitioning to a degrowth paradigm in Western societies
  • Percentage growth rates and the rule of 70
  • Taking action: Community level resilience and the fallacy of individual self-sufficiency


Nathan has also generously provided links to his ‘Distributed Energy Generation in Southland’ presentation and his recent submission to a draft regional energy strategy if you are keen to dig deeper into the facts, figures and scientific concepts mentioned in this episode.

Further resources mentioned by Nathan in this episode:


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