Murphy Bug - Community Reinforces Intuition (#ProtectOakFlat)

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Musician and Activist Murphy Bug has been on an intuition-led journey to discovering and living his truth. He shares his experience road-tripping across the country in the month leading up to the election, how his marketing career made him a better artist, and the was in which community reinforces his intuition. The episode ends with Leo giving advice on how to be yourself in any room and Murphy expressing how we can help protect sacred Apache land, Oak Flat.

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Episode Transcript

(00:14):
Hello, and welcome to anotherepisode of the Leo Yockey show,
the show where I Leo Yockeyinterview guests about how their
unique life path led them todefine success and fulfillment.
The goal is to provide all of uswith some relief from our
existential dread. But here's asecret, that feeling. It's just

(00:36):
telling us that life isfleeting, you know what I mean?
We got to we got to do what welove, we got to find connection.
And I think that's what I'mdoing here. Right? Anyway, big
news. I am officially a ticktalker. Is that what we call

(00:56):
people that do Tick Tock? Idon't even know what is
happening. Why am I on TickTock? Oh, my God, change is a
real thing, y'all. I alwayshated social media, never
understood influencers. And nowhere I am creating content. But
you know what I'm doing it forI'm doing it for connection. I
really believe in the stuff thatwe talk about here on the

(01:19):
podcast, and I want to findother people that are just as
excited about it. But one thingthat Arlen Hamilton said is, you
have to show up and be who youare, so that people looking for
you can find you. So I'm excitedto get this community growing.
You can follow me at Leo Yockey.
The link is in the show notes.
And yeah, you know, through allof the change in the move and

(01:43):
the breakup, like I didn't thinkthat I was going to get this
going as quickly as I did. Butyou know what, honestly, again,
I can't say it enough. Thank youfor being on this journey with
me, this podcast ended up beinga huge anchor for me through all
of the changes that I've beennavigating, not just in the last
few weeks, but also really inthe last six months. You know,

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it's been great to havesomething to just kind of be
accountable to and focus on andto kind of get just to keep me
responsible and accountable. Idon't I don't know, words are
hard right now. But speaking ofaccountability, another thing
that kept me grounded and waskind of an anchor, through all
this change, honestly, has beenvolunteering. And that's always

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been a big value of mine is, youknow, when you're going through
a lot of stuff, who can youhelp? And, you know, it's not to
say that your problems should beignored, right? It's not to say
that they you should be overexerting yourself in giving more
than you're able to, but beingable to volunteer and to just

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right size, my problems has beena huge anchor for me. And it's
it's helped me develop somecommunity in my neighborhood,
which is great. I love having,you know, friends and other
people that live around me andto have community and to feel
like I know, my neighbors, bothhoused in unhoused. So actually,

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the organization that Ivolunteer with know, whoa, home
Alliance. We're actually in themiddle of a summer fundraiser
right now. And you know, thisorganization, like I said, it's
meant a lot to me, it's been ahuge anchor for me. And it's
helped me build community withall of my neighbors. And I don't
know if you know this, okay, Imight shock you guys. The best

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way to solve homelessness is tohelp people experiencing
homelessness. What Oh, my God,is that the sound of everyone's
minds being blown. But no,seriously, we add nahama Lyons
we provide, you know, housingreferrals, DMV vouchers,

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showers, food, books, clothing,basically anything and
everything that a personexperiencing homelessness needs
to be able to bridge that gapand just get their life back on
track. And it's been really coolto just be able to talk to
people and to see that thishomelessness issue here in LA is

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one very complicated and two,there's no single route to
experiencing homelessness. Andthree that hey, just a few hours
every week is providing atangible difference, which I
think is really cool. So ifyou're able to give, especially
if you're in the LA area, buteven if you're not, you know, as

(04:32):
little as $5 can go a long way.
I have the link in the shownotes. And anyway, thank you any
any little bit counts. Butanyway, Murphy bug, my guest
today is actually someone that Imet through noho home Alliance,
and he's a musician and anactivist and he actually plays
music every Monday when he'savailable at noho. Home Alliance

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and to be able to bridge the gapwith are neighbors, you know,
and using music as a way to kindof help people connect has been
really cool to see, you know,the atmosphere is very
different. When the music isthere versus when it's not. I
don't think all of that is justfrom the showers because you
know, the showers are there whenhe's not there anyway, we get to

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talk about, you know, followingour intuition and community and
how, you know, friends on thesame path as you can kind of
help you understand that you'reon the right track. So, anyway,
that was already a lot of ADO.
So I'm not gonna add any more.
Here is Murphy bog.

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Let's Murphy, how are you doingtoday? I'm doing well. I'm doing
well. How are you? I'm good. I'mgood. I feel like man, you know,
I went from what was it twomonths ago, not even knowing
that you were a person thatexisted. And now I feel like I
see you pretty much more than Isee anybody else.
I was thinking the same thing.
And I had that discussion withsome of the people at the place

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where I volunteer at nh h A. Nohome Alliance for those of you
don't know. It's like, yeah,shout out. No, it's like, those
are the people I see the most inmy life. Like, yeah, regardless
of whatever else I'm doing.
Yeah, yeah. Same for thelisteners, because I would

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imagine that virtually none ofthem know who you are yet. Who
are you?
What do you do? Who am I? I amMurphy bug. The one and only
never has been another one.
Probably won't be another one.
Unless I name someone that orsomeone likes me enough to name
their child after me. Born andraised Swarthmore, Pennsylvania,

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little suburb of Philadelphia.
They're pretty much my wholelife. Yeah, shout out, shout out
the mall. Shout the sixth oneout to one, five, the 484 was
another one that I learnedrecently, but shout out Philly.
Went to school in Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania, the Carnegie
Mellon University. After that,moved to Boston, Massachusetts,
where I worked at a financialservices company, and decided

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that was not what I want to do.
Because it wasn't what I wantedto do. I took a job working at
an ad agency that specializes inmusic and entertainment, because
I'm a musician, I'm anentertainer, someone, some would
say some might not. But that'sfine. That's their prerogative
and worked there for a whileloved it got to experience got

(07:33):
to live in London for a littlewhile working Sony UK as kind of
being the point person there forall the advertising campaigns
that would come through. So Igot to just work on like, the
biggest names in music, digitaladvertising, like Drake, Justin
Timberlake, Red Hot ChiliPeppers, everyone also got to
see a lot of like, smallerartists when they're just

(07:55):
starting out. But awesome. Like,I think I ran like colleagues
first touring campaign likedigital advertising for it. And
then, I mean, he blew up prettyquick. But it was really cool to
just get to be on both ends ofthe spectrum. And also just be
around music, because that'swhat I love. And that's what I
do. And then after being there,for plus, amazing, fulfilling

(08:18):
years, had some kind of, youknow, went through a bunch of
things just in my personal life,and also just was at a place
where I was like, I think I wantto take the next step. And take
what I've learned here, kind ofdo it on my own, but also give
the music thing a try. And soquit there was doing the kind of

(08:43):
individual consulting foradvertising for bit. And like
kind of building my own brandaround there, while also
focusing on becoming like moreof an artist performer in
Boston, and had been doing thatfor a year, maybe a little bit
more than a year and thenpandemic. And so, as we all kind
of did, for us, a lot of peoplethat took that time to look

(09:05):
inward and do a lot of selfevaluation and introspection and
growth. And along that journey,realized that I'd really always
wanted to be in LA and do musicin LA and kind of explore
Hollywood and that lifestyle.
And if there's one thing I thinkmyself and a lot of people took
from the pandemic, it's thatlife is short, and you never
know when things are going tojust get completely turned on

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their head or shut down. So whynot do the things you've always
wanted to do and trust yourintuition and trust yourself and
go for it. So two month roadtrip out to California? I mean,
we can get into all thespecifics. Did you want a short
answer? Am I just like giving along answer to a short answer
question?
No, no, this is great. Give me agive me the whole rundown. And

(09:47):
then we'll break we'll kind ofdissect it piece by piece
afterwards. You're right. You'reYou're almost at the end anyway.
So you might as well that'strue. I'm almost I'm almost at
the present. So planned, a Kindof two months, like about 58 day
6000 mile 100 hour of drivingroad trip from Yeah, it was a it
was a hog. It was a it was areal a real haul across country

(10:12):
right in time for Halloween andthe election and then the next
shutdown and then a slowreopening. And here we are.
And here we are. That soundslike quite an adventure. Do you
think that so you know, we'rewe're kind of in similar boats
right now where we both havekind of left corporate jobs laps

(10:35):
these you know, quote unquotecareers, said kind of pursue
creative endeavors. And, youknow, it already sounds like
just from the little bit thatyou've told me that, you know,
this wasn't so much a huge,sudden sharp turn as much as it
was a gradual transition, youknow, because you went from,
from financial services to an adagency those specifically in the

(10:58):
realm of music to consulting onyour own and getting you know,
some experience building yourown brand to now you're finally
here. Do you think that thatkind of grounded you going into
the movie, did you feel lesscrazy, I guess, cuz I feel like
that long road trip for a movelike that i there be so many
times in my head that like Iwould be in it, I'd be excited.

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But I feel like I would also belike, what am I doing? Am I did
I just throw my whole life away?
Like, is this a mistake? BecauseI feel like that with the stuff
that I'm doing right now?
Hmm. No, that's a greatquestion. And I think it started
to really kind of come togetherslowly. And then in terms of the

(11:40):
move, and then the more I was,the more that things like kind
of went well or fell into place,the more reinforced I felt about
it. And that was also a lot ofjust kind of like, we're gonna
get into the real woowoo hippiedippie stuff, but like, just
trusting kind of my intuitionand trusting that, like the path
I was on was the right path. Andthings would kind of fall into

(12:01):
place when you kind of put outinto the universe, what you want
and what you what you're goingfor, like, I met, I met nd and
she was like, I'm doing this,like, I want to do the same
exact thing. And I was like, Oh,okay. And that was like, a
reinforcing. Kind of that wasone piece of reinforcement. I
was like, you know, you are boththinking the same thing at the

(12:22):
same time. Like, that's a goodsign that you're not completely
out of, out of your mind doingsomething that is like
ridiculous. And then even like,like, I when I started playing
this, I didn't have a car, whichI needed a car to drive across
the country. I didn't have anapartment in LA, like I hadn't
planned it at all. And withintwo months, it all came
together. Like I had told someof my friends out here that I
was thinking moving. And thenone of them. she she she called

(12:46):
me She's like, hey, my roommateneeds a roommate. Someone
dropped out, can you fill thisspot, like kind of sight unseen?
Like I need to know right now.
And I was like, yep, like, Sure,I trust it. And that's where I'm
at now. And it's beautiful. It'sa perfect place. It's like great
location, reasonably priced.
Like it's everything I wouldhave wanted. But like it just
kind of fell into my lap as Iwas planning this. So like, when

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things like that kept happening,it was really reinforcing that.
Like, just keep, you know,believing at what you want to
do. And trusting the processthat you have, and things will
work out. And if they don't.
That was another thing that Ikind of learned in my last, you
know, what are we gonna callthis like, year and a half two
year period of great selfreflection and understanding

(13:29):
that people have had like thegreat The Great Awakening. I
mean,I think we're gonna call it a
pandemic, but okay.
pandemic, you know what it isback to the hippie dippie stuff.
You know what it is? It's thedawning of the Age of Aquarius.
Yeah, it is. The dawning of theAge of Aquarius started. I think

(13:53):
the solstice of last year itstarted somewhere between May
and March of last year, let'ssay
yeah, it was either right, rightbefore George Floyd died or like
right, as those protests werestarting to really intensify
somewhere in there.
And for those of you who don'tknow, or don't believe in
astrology, which I don't know,I'm kind of like halfway in
there. There's something to it.
Basically, astrological agescome about once every, I think

(14:16):
21 the numbers aren't right,somewhere around 2100 years and
it's basically the shifting ofwhatever constellation in the
sky is like the mainconstellation. Anyone knows
astrology is going to tell meI'm way off but like this is the
gist of it. And it's basicallywhatever constellation is the
main constellation in the skyfor that like period. And so

(14:37):
that constellation or that likeZodiac or astrological sign is
supposed to be the kind ofoverarching one that dictates
kind of everything. So I don'tknow if you ever seen here
they're talking about thedawning of the Age of Aquarius
but the actual Age of Aquariusis like happening now. And it's
supposed to be the the It's thechange it brings about the

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beginning and end ofcivilizations and social
constructs. That is what thedawning of the Age of Aquarius
supposed to bring. SoHell yeah, shadow. What it's
worth shout out to. I'm also anAquarius. Hell yeah, yeah. We
just learned our birthdays areas a single day apart. Yeah. In
February.

(15:24):
That's true. We did that. Canyou tell I I moved to West
Hollywood. I immediately broughtup Yes, you are right. where you
belong in Los Angeles. Welcome.
We're still work here.
Oh, yeah. I thought they neededanother sis white male talking
about astrology and lso.
Yeah, of course. Welcome. Andtalk to talking out of his ass

(15:45):
about astrology. I don't haveanywhere else to talk out of. I
agree with you though. I mean,it does feel like there is a
shift happening. And it feelslike everybody notices it.
Everybody is aware of it. Andyou know, kind of depending on
how life was going for youbeforehand, I suppose is kind of

(16:06):
the the litmus is, you know,you're either excited about it.
or you're not. Yeah. And I forone, I'm very excited about it.
Yeah, no, I think and we Yeah,we've talked about as a bunch
because we're both kind of inthe performing speaking, you're
speaking your heart speakingyour truth, right? Like not
being afraid of having bearingwhat is like inside of you to

(16:30):
the world as like art orwhatever you want to call it.
That's kind of it's been veryreinforcing. And just like kind
of fulfilling to know that,like, you can do that and you
can trust that and it's, it'sgonna be okay. Because we
survived a pandemic and we'realive honestly versus alive.

(16:51):
Like it's, I went to I went tothe Dodgers game last night.
Shout out Phillies one though.
Shout out fails. And All right,well, who's your team
Dodgers? I will name the y'allbeat us like two three years in
a row in the playoffs and I'vehated you ever since back to the
Dodgers. 10 2011 something likethat.
That's right. Yeah, actually,everyone gave me first of all,

(17:12):
everyone loved the chase lajersey, which I really
appreciated how nice everyone atDodger Stadium was considering I
was wearing on the way jerseybut how can you not love chase
Utley?
Yeah, but smart move on yourtoes. You know, I'm a strategic
dresser. Those of you who don'tknow Chase, Utley was a was a
beloved member of the Dodgersand went to Philly. I think for

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like his last year. other wayaround. Right in Philly. My path
I've long. I could have sworn hedid one season in Philly before.
Yeah, tired?
No, it was weird that I think hedid retire as a Dodger, which
was weird because he was alifelong Philly. And then once
the Dodgers for like a year anda half and retire the Dodgers.
So who knows always love Chase,though.
I got fans screaming at me now.

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No, it's fine. But I guess thepoint of that was that I kept
looking around, like, we had towait in like, an hour to park
for traffic, and then likeconcessions, like half an hour.
And I like kept creeping in likethis, like, this is annoying.
But then it was this newrealization that kept snapping
and be like, wait, I'm at abaseball game haven't been like

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allowed to do anything. Andlike, you're not. Moreover, I'm
just alive right now, like beingalive as the new kind of bar
that has been set after thepandemic. And it's so cool to be
able to, like, bring oneselfback to that and just like,
appreciate being alive. Like, ifthat's your baseline, you're

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golden. I mean, as long asyou're still alive.
But yeah, I mean, that's true. Imean, there's definitely plenty
of people who were alive at thebeginning of this of this
period, who no longer are, youknow, and yeah, I think you're
absolutely right, you know, tobe alive at all is absolutely a
gift. And we forget thatsometimes in those moments of

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frustration, you know, I'm upsetabout a line when the reality
is, this line is is indicativeof something much better. Yeah,
precisely. I love that. So. Sowhat what exactly was the I
know, you said you wanted tokind of like, see what the

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Hollywood lifestyle was, like,you know, kind of pursue music
from here. Did you have like aspecific vision in mind of what
you thought you wanted to looklike? Like, what what exactly
kind of was your goal? You know,for, let's say, the first year
here in LA. First year?
Well, yeah, that's aninteresting question since I've

(19:42):
been here for what like eightmonths, nine months, and the
majority of the first year hasbeen like the pandemic like
locked up, share. Heknew you knew you were moving in
a pan.
Yeah, great. Yeah. No, totally.
I you're asking me that. You'reasking me the questions that I
should be better at. Long Middleto long term goal planning.
No, that's great. Let's work itout right here,

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it's on my to do list to get myone year plan, but I have, it's
like to just to be able to beconsistently performing and
sharing my music and my, what isinside my head and my heart with
the world and have that resonatewith other people and use my

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experiences and understanding tohelp other people with their
experiences. And just in life,like I, you know, that was that
was a big part of why I did theroad trip out here was because
it was like, I need to gainboth, like, experiences to write
about but also insight for like,people that I don't really know,

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like, I've never been to, likeso many places in the middle of
country. And it's like, that wasalso a very divisive divided
time. This was like, yeah,months leading up to the
election. So I'm driving throughlike the reddest parts of the
country. And I don't know, ifyou could tell anyone who's
listening, pretty blue type guy,pretty liberal guy over here,
really the guy that just went onand on about that Dawn of the

(21:11):
Age of Aquarius, flew.
Go figure.
But it was like I, I reallywanted to be able to kind of
understand what other peoplewere, like, where they're coming
from, or where they're going,what they're going through. Cuz
I mean, you can't really speakto people if you don't

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understand what, where they'recoming from, like as an
advertiser, and a marketer. Andone of the most important things
I always learned was like, firstthing is to know your audience,
if you don't know, youraudience, or the people you're
talking to, nothing you say isgoing to resonate, nothing you
say is going to make any sense.
And you can't cater a message tosomeone when you don't really
understand their perspective. Sothat was a big part of like,

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that trip coming out here was togain the insight on like, what's
going on with other people wholike don't have my perspective.
And so yeah, my goal is to justreally be able to share what I
understand what I go throughwith other people to help kind
of, it's gonna sound prettycliche, but you know, make the
world a better place and helppeople who are struggling, like

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that's the beauty of music, isthat it, it can kind of unite
people against or unite peoplein the things they go through
and kind of give peoplesomething to really look at and
say, okay, someone else is goingthrough a similar thing. This is
it gives like a universal natureto the struggles that people go

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through everything I like, kindof do i do nowadays through like
the guise of mental health andlike how we see things, because
like, anything that happens toyou or anything that you like,
experience or process, it's theonly like, you you everything
you see, you see through yourown kind of brain, right, like
through your mind. And that's,that's like that his mental

(23:09):
health, right, the way that yousee things and the way that your
mind functions in your brainthat that is all kind of mental
health, right? So like, if itjust like a way of looking at
pretty much anything that goeson. So I'm always trying to like
zoom out and be like, Okay, whatis like the overarching way I
can like consider something Ican consider anything that goes

(23:30):
on under like, the like, youknow, all the the George Floyd
riots and the civil unrest,everything that went on with
that. And while I mean is stillgoing on, even the pandemic,
like the way that people werereacting, and the way that
people were kind of hoarding andscared, like, that's all still
mental health, like people arescared because of the way they
perceive something or what theythink is going to happen.

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Yeah, totally. What was the mostsurprising thing that you
learned from the people that youmet? In your travels on your way
from Boston to LA? As a reallygood question.
I mean, there was, I'm trying tothink through each of the stops
and like what stuck out? It was.
Unfortunately, it wasn't superunexpected. But well, I mean, it

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wasn't not unexpected, though.
The thing in terms of meetingpeople that stuck out to me the
most was when I was camping inwhen I was camping in the Smoky
Mountains. I was just like, bymyself, and it was like a
campsite was a bunch of otherpeople. And it was like a
campfire with a couple people. Ithink it was there's two girls,

(24:41):
two girls and a guy sittingaround it. And they had like a
fire and playing music and we'relike drinking and I like went
over it like I'm by myself andI'm like hey, like do you guys
mind if I like sit down and chatwith you? cuz I've just been
like trying to talk to people asmuch as I could, like, sure. And
they're always super nice. Ithink they're two nurses from
Minnesota and they were talkingabout how like They were like
dealing with all the pandemicnursing stuff and like just

(25:02):
needed to get away. And also,like Minnesota was very
interesting because like, it wasin Minnesota, or was it?
Yeah, it was, it wasMinnesota. And so then they were
talking about, you know, againabout race and George Floyd. And
at first, like, we were like,just seemed very similar getting
along, I got a lot in commonjust talking about that. And
then I got to that, and theykind of got really angry about
it and had very differentideological ideas about what was

(25:26):
going on than myself. And that,for me was like, kind of the
first instance I'd had oftalking to someone face to face.
Who was that vehemently. I don'tsay racist? Because I don't like
kind of putting labels onthings, but they're not well,

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okay. Yeah, they're very,they're racist as hell. And I
was like, trying to still have aconversation with them with out
kind of, you know, being like,you know, chastising them for
being like, obviously racist,but it just got to a point where
I was like, Okay, these peopleare kind of set in their, their
ways, and there's not going tobe any, like, can't go any

(26:09):
farther with this open exchangeof ideas. So I think that was
something that really resonatedwith me and I, I saw it a lot
more, I think it spoke to thebigger picture of like, how
everyone is just kind of beentrapped inside, or had been,
we're all outside now. But howit had been trapped inside for a
while, and people kind of gotstuck in these. And this was
like me extrapolating on it, butI'm pretty sure I'm right.

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People got stuck in these echochambers, because you didn't
have an open exchange. And it'sa combination of social media,
and the kind of fact that theworld was shut down. But like
people were just really stuck intheir own beliefs and had no
other counter beliefs to kind ofopen their eyes to what was
going on. And I'd kind of sawthat same thing a couple more
times. And I'd rather have thoseconversations in other places.

(26:53):
So it was was a little, itwasn't like, surprising, it was
more reinforcing something, Iguess I would have assumed but
it was, it was kind of shocking,I guess, to just experience it
firsthand.
Yeah. And I'm sure it wasespecially jarring, because, you
know, like, up until that point,they, you know, they seem like
cool people. And then yeah, itgot to the point where you could

(27:16):
even have a conversation withthem.
Well, I'm sure everyone's hadthat experience, right, or
anyone who tries to have thoseconversations is probably how
that experience.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, youknow, it's interesting, I think
about this a lot with how peoplerespond to homelessness, but I'm
almost I almost feel like italso applies here, too, with,

(27:38):
with the George Floyd thing,and, and on a on a more general
scale, like police brutality,whether or not the way policing
works needs to be changed inAmerica, which I obviously think
it needs to be, you know, withhomelessness, you know, there's,
there's people who, you know,they, they drive by a homeless
encampment and practically spiton the unhoused, from their

(28:01):
Mercedes, you know, and the morethat I think about it, the more
that I realized that people whoact like that, they, they need
to live in a world where to behomeless makes you lesser than,
because if you've created all ofyour self worth, and everything
that you have, around this ideathat you worked hard for

(28:24):
everything you got, there wasn'tany kind of privilege involved.
And that and or that the amountof money that you had, or your
accomplishments are, you know,kind of the basis for your self
worth. Once you kind of look atit from a different angle, and
understand that, you know,there's some systemic forces
that are, you know, that eithercause people to experience
homelessness or keep them there,or that, you know, in a lot of

(28:47):
cases, we're closer to beinghomeless than we are to being
millionaires, when you reallystop and think about that stuff.
And you think about how, youknow, people who are
experiencing homelessness arereal people who deserve respect,
and all that, it, it takes awaythe one thing that you had, that
you build all of your self worthon. So in order to feel any kind
of self worth, you have to feelbetter than the homeless, you

(29:11):
know what I mean? And I feellike this is almost the same
thing, you know, like when youwhen you have, you know, kind of
lived in this bubble, where thepolice were always friendly,
always safe, always theprotector. And you, I don't
know, might have used the policeto, you know, to call on people
who were, you know, making younervous, or whatever the case

(29:34):
may be, or you know, what Imean, like, when you're when
you're in that world where thepolice are good, you have to
continue to believe that becausethere's so much else in society
that you have to then examinewhere if all of that was working
for you, that's a lot of workthat's very overwhelming, and
it's so much easier to cling onto the to this idea that things

(29:57):
are fine that things are workingand It's like, the more the more
that everything has beenhappening with the George Floyd
protests and everything that'scome out pretty much since Trump
got elected, the harder it is, Ithink, to hold on to that,
because there's so much evidenceto the contrary, that the system
is broken, the system needs tochange. And that people who
aren't ready to make that changeare going to cling on to their

(30:18):
old beliefs for dear life.
Because you know, as we said,we're in this dawn at the Age of
Aquarius, things are changing.
And like I said, depending onhow you felt about the world
before, this is either the bestthing that could have ever
happened, or the worst thing andit sounds like you're running
into people who felt like thisis the worst thing that could be
happening. Totally, totally,that's 100% what it is people

(30:40):
are, people are scared of changepeople like the status quo, but
you have to believe that thingsbecause it's the you don't have
to think about, you know, it didjust, it's easier, it's easier.
People are okay with that,because it's easier to kind of
explain things away. You know,this is the way it's always
been. They're different than me.
I that could never be me,because that's scary, right?

(31:00):
Like, you're you could be ahomeless person that's scary to
some people.
Yeah. And if and if you know,George Floyd was innocent, which
he very obviously was, that isalso scary, you know, because it
could, you know, it could happento you. And you know, and so
these, you know, these peoplewho, you know, are still saying,

(31:21):
Oh, you know, he died of a drugoverdose, which to me, I like
that. That's like saying thatKobe Bryant died because he
wasn't wearing a seatbelt, like,maybe it could have helped a
little bit, but like, thathelicopter was still going down
No matter what, you know, like,there's nothing he could have
done to save himself at thatpoint. You know, so it's just,
it's, it's really, it's reallyinteresting. And, you know, for
some people, it's, it'sunavoidable to think about that

(31:43):
kind of stuff, you know, like Ihave, in my own experience,
being biracial, and having, youknow, on one hand, the immigrant
parent, who, you know, dealtwith a lot of systemic racism,
all his life, both in Africa,under British rule, and here in
America, and then to have myother half be white and
completely privileged in everysingle way possible. And, and

(32:05):
the government has just workedfor them for generation upon
generation upon generation. It,it's it, it, I have no choice
but to but to examine all thatevery day. I mean, it's been my
entire life since before all ofthis. So you know, so these
people who can't imagine thatmaybe there's a there's a

(32:26):
different way of looking at,it's like, I can't I get it, but
I can't relate to it. Because,you know, like, I don't, I don't
have that luxury of being ableto pretend like this isn't the
case. You know, it's reallyinteresting, though. It's really
interesting watching how, howmuch people will will cling on
to an old idea, even to theirown detriment, you know, yeah.

(32:48):
to the grave. Exactly. You said,you said something else.
Interesting that I wonder, Iwonder what your take is on
this. Because you mentionedsomething at the beginning about
or not at the beginning. Butrecently, you mentioned
something about when you were inadvertising, when you were in
marketing, you know, it wasimportant to know your audience.
And that's also kind of what youwant to do in your music

(33:11):
because, you know, you want tounite people and allow people to
relate. And I heard, I wish Iremember who told me this
because it was it was sobrilliant, and I want to give
proper credit where it's due.
But someone recently told methat oh, I think it was my
friend Tatyana Tatyana max shoutout to Tatyana I'm pretty sure
it was them. Yeah. What theysaid, if this is who I think was

(33:34):
his art ERD sorry. Marketingdoes intend Yeah. Man. I don't
remember how they said, Okay.
Tatiana said something like,what advertising does is is take
it is, is commodity commoditize.
Or make a product out of whatthe effect that art has on the

(33:59):
mind and the spirit, you know,and I've been kind of, you know,
toying around with this concepta lot about how everything has
kind of like a dark and a lightside, like there's a good and a
bad to everything, you know, andthat being said, Do you think
that your time in marketing andadvertising made you a better
artist? Yeah,I would say, so. I think any

(34:22):
time that you can be more, itwas funny when I started working
at the I started, like actuallyworking in the ad agency, like
actually doing, you know,running campaigns and it was
funny because I would tellpeople or talk to you about it.
It's like most people's reactionUsually, it's like, you know,

(34:42):
you Everyone hates like YouTubeads. I'm like, I'm gonna skip
it. That kind of thing. LikeYeah, that's like the big joke
is like, you know, Facebook'salways listening, Amazon's
always listening and they'restealing your data so they can
show you these things. I wasthought that was funny because
that to me was like That thatwas always like kind of bad
advertising like, it is betterto if you see an ad, or you're

(35:04):
showing a product or if youlike, are given a message that
you either don't want or like,don't enjoy or isn't presented.
Well, that's bad advertising. SoI was like a good advertiser,
you always want to be actuallytalking to people who either
know that they want what you'reselling, or providing and don't
know about it, or need it, butdon't even know they need it.

(35:27):
And you're like, opening them upto something new that actually
is beneficial to them. So allboth of those things are about
understanding how to communicatewith people how to communicate
something important to peoplethat either they they want
already, and they just hadn'tbeen able to find or that they

(35:48):
would you would find useful ifthey knew and just didn't know
already. And that's true. Andlike, that's true. And music,
it's an art. It's about it'sabout communication. I i've been
recently trying to blast throughevery masterclass ever, because
I absolutely love them. Andthey're just so informative, and
which one it was Neil deGrasseTyson, who I already loved

(36:11):
before his master class, butlove even more, he did one on or
he does one not on, not on likephysics and astronomy, which is
a physicist, but more oncommunication and his
methodologies for communication.
And he talks a lot about howbeing able was as a corollary of
love. It's wisdom is knowledgedistill down into like, an

(36:35):
acceptable form or an easilytransferable form. Yeah, or
like, you can very conciselyimpart very complicated things
to people. And he just, he justtalks a lot about how like, the
communication is the mostimportant thing for no matter
what you're doing, like you needto be able to talk to your
audience, you need to understandyour audience, you need to

(36:56):
understand, like, what, what ispalatable and what isn't like,
you can't give too muchinformation at once, people you
can't really tell people to do.
Honestly, if you try to tellpeople to do more than one thing
or learn more than one thing atonce. It's gonna be tough. So
like, just keeping things likesimple and concise, but still
making them resonate. That'sadvertising, that's music.

(37:20):
That's our that's everything.
That's communication.
Yeah, absolutely. You know, Ilove how all that is connected.
Because even even coming from myworld coming from software
engineering, my friend ej said,it said it really well. You
know, they said, I'm really gladthat I got into tech, because it

(37:41):
taught me, it taught me how tobe bad at things. And what they
what they mean by that is thatoften in engineering, you know,
it's like, you go into a newproduct, or you go into, you
know, fixing a bug, and youdon't really know what you're
doing yet, or you don't reallyknow what the final product is
gonna be. And you're kind ofiterating over it over time. And
you start out with like thisproof of concept. And then from

(38:03):
there, you kind of have like, aminimal viable product. And then
from there, you have, you know,version one, version two, and so
on, and so on. And it constantlyevolves, as technology improves,
as the engineers understandingof the product improves. And as
the company's understanding ofthe customers using the product
also improves, you know, and so,comedy has a very similar

(38:25):
cadence to it, where, you know,like, you kind of start out with
an idea that you're bringing onstage. And you're kind of
gauging how the, how theaudience reacts to it, and
you're just constantly finetuning it over time. And, you
know, for me softwareengineering, I thought at first,
you know, I was like, Well, I'mglad that I had this, you know,

(38:46):
this this career that allowed meto be able to afford to move
back to LA from Vegas. But otherthan that, like, to hell with
it, like, I don't need it, Idon't want it. And now I have
this newfound appreciation forit, because I can see how that
engineering experience made me abetter artist, and I find it so

(39:06):
fast. It's like no, noexperience goes wasted, even if
it's a job that we cannot stand,you know, huh. No, I
totally. I totally agree withyou on that. It's, and I guess I
actually had a question for youthat that just made me think of
this in terms of stand up andperformance. And I was thinking

(39:26):
myself in when you're whenyou're like deciding what to
write or what to talk about thejokes to say, how much of it is
like, how do you balance justsaying exactly what's in your
heart and what's true to youwith saying things that you
know, will resonate with theaudience. Because I go back and

(39:50):
forth with that a lot. I'malways being like, should I just
like completely ignore theaudience and just stream of
consciousness, everything I'mgoing through, or cut off
anything I'm going through andSay what I know they want to
hear like, Well, how do you dealwith that push and pull?
Yeah, well, I think I thinkthere's a middle ground where
I'm able to say, what's true tomy heart in a way that is

(40:14):
connecting to to any audience.
So like, for example, the veryfirst open mic that I did, was
in front of this group of like,older, like 50 year old,
straight white men, like theythought their idea of funny was
to hurl a bunch of super vulgarjokes at the one woman in the
audience. And me, am I am I?

(40:36):
Yeah, pretty much. This is righthere in LA. So who, and it
turned out that one of them getsbooked in LA, all the time, he
is all over the place. But yeah,it is what it is. But he was
looking at my, my comedy, buddy,you know, Tyler, we're looking
at each other, you know, becauseI have a bunch of jokes about
being trans and he has a bunchof jokes about being gay, and
we're like, Are we going to getmurdered today? Like, is this is

(40:59):
going to be bad? And, and I wasactually thinking about, you
know, should I should I take outsome of these trans jokes,
should I put something a littlebit more generic in there. And I
decided not to, I decided I wasstill gonna speak my truth. But
I added a couple of little adlibs in there, that, that made

(41:20):
it so that I could kind ofconnect a little bit better, you
know, so like, the very firstthing I walked on stage, which I
did not plan on saying this isnot a prepared part of the joke
is, I just walk up and I lookaround, and I say, I don't think
I don't think I have the samebackground as a lot of as a lot
of you. And it was so funny,because I said that to you know,

(41:42):
as a reference to, you know, howI look and how I present and it
compared to them, and, and, youknow, and some of the stuff that
I was obviously going to saylater in the joke, or in the
set. But the what wasinteresting about it was the
very next thing I said afterthat was meant to be a setup and
kind of turned into a punchline. So I look around and I
say, I don't think that I that Ihave the same background as all

(42:05):
the rest of you. It's importantto me that y'all know that I
come from a small town. And theythought that was hilarious,
because obviously that was notwhat they were thinking when I
said, I think because you know,there were people that came on
and said, I don't believe indefund the police, there was
people that, you know, made abunch of transphobic jokes, like
all this stuff. And so to say,you have to say I'm from a small

(42:28):
town was the original start ofthat set. But because this was a
different audience, you know,having it just like that, it
made it funny. And there wereother little moments in it
sprinkled throughout that in anormal audience, or not a normal
audience, but an audience that'sa little bit more like my
people, the things that they'vefound funny, aren't probably the

(42:48):
thing, it wasn't a lot of mywhat I would consider to be my
punch lines, but because I kindof was willing to, like, meet
them where they're at, you know,like, I could be, I can live,
you know, I can I could speak mytruth in a way that, that
connected to them, you know, andbecause in some rooms, I can
say, you know, I can make thesejokes, I can make a joke about

(43:08):
how Ariel the Disney Princesshas a lot in common with trans
men. And, and it hits in one wayin one room and a different way
and in another room, but I cansay that same thing. And you
know, in one room, it's funny,because I'm like, oh, here I go
again, with my you know, with mymillennial jokes in front of all
these old men, you know, talkingabout Disney Disney movies. And

(43:31):
then in a roomful ofmillennials, they, they, they
just find it relatable becausethey liked Disney movies, you
know. So, I think I thinkthere's a middle ground where
you can definitely like, speakyour truth, but but presented in
a way where it's like you, youknow that this is not going to
be just an echo chamber, youknow,
totally that. That is that justcompletely kind of connected it

(43:55):
for me that it's like, you, youkind of you're putting yourself
out there and you're speakingyour truth, and you're
connecting it to them, but younever know how anyone else is
going to receive it. Because youeven though like you're you
know, you're thinking abouttheir lens, you can never really
understand how someone is goingto take something or like the
connections that will happen insomeone's brain when they see or

(44:19):
hear something because we've allhad such different experiences.
Like maybe some people in theaudience had like a really weird
experience with the LittleMermaid and they're laughing at
that you would never know that.
So it's like you put thesethings out there and yeah, you
like get a joke at a setup andnot at the punch line. But then
you're like, Okay, well maybethat is funny to people because
of x. Like you never really knowuntil you like practice it and

(44:41):
you like put it out there howpeople are gonna take it like
it's, it's so true. And that islike, that's just one of the
things that I just think youanswered the question perfectly
and really drew it for me. Yeah,it's like, just put it out there
and you'll never like People aregonna react to it somehow.

(45:03):
Yeah, exactly. And and, youknow, I think me meeting them
where they're at halfwaydefinitely house because there,
there was another moment in thatset where I really could have
like leaned into it, howdifferent we were in and it was
a moment where I could I shouldyes and did a little bit better
because I said some stuff lateron about my dad being from

(45:23):
Tanzania, and I'm used to peoplehaving never heard of that
country before. And soespecially in my mind with this
crowd, I'm like, okay, for sure.
They will not have heard ofTanzania. Right. And, and so,
you know, like I said, you know,like, my dad's from Tanzania.
Has anybody ever heard of it?
And I had no preparation forthem having saying, Yeah, so I

(45:43):
was just like, see, see, like,no one's ever heard of it, blah,
blah, blah. They said yes. Andone of them was like, yeah, it's
in Africa, like all proud ofhimself because people hear
Tanzania and they're like, oh,like Tasmania, like the
Tasmanian devil. I'm like, No,my dad's not Australian. Like,
I always thought it was Tanzaniafor like, a long time.
Yeah, I've heard bothinterchangeably, but I've never

(46:04):
heard of Tanzania and sayTanzania.
Yeah, I don't think that'sright. Yeah, it just, you think
Tasmanian Tasmania? Yeah. Yeah.
I'm gonna trust you on how topronounce the place where your
family's from.
Thank you. Yeah, so so when whenpeople were saying yes, I said
something about like, Oh, wow.
So we have like a bunch of liarsin the audience. It's totally

(46:24):
like not connecting with them,you know, but first time on
stage, it is what it is. But ofcourse, immediately after, I was
like, Oh, my God, if I had donelike a yes. And in this moment,
I could have had a greatcallback and said, and been
like, shots been like, Oh, mygosh, this has never happened
before. You see, like, this iswhy I left the small town that I
came from. Because Yeah, thisbecause even this group is heard

(46:47):
of it. Because we're, you know,we're in the city or something
along those lines, you know,like, again, like, you know,
playing to the fact that we'reall different. Like there's a
there's a way to do that. Sohopefully, if that comes up
again, I will respond to itbetter. Yeah, I'm on stage. I
think I did. Okay.
Yeah. I mean, it sounds like youdid always, always just send one

(47:08):
end up. Always. Yes. And,yeah, for sure. I think that's
the, that's the main takeawayhere is when in when in doubt,
always send because I think theother thing too, and that's kind
of the point that I wanted tomake earlier. Because, you know,
when I first met you, and wefirst were talking, you know,
you kind of said, you know, likeI had this job in advertising,
which at the time, I did notknow, that it was in the music

(47:30):
industry at all, I just knewthat it was digital advertising.
So I figured it was some sort ofagency that was a catch all for
any industry. And, you know, soI figured that you took his big
leap, you know, huge pivot fromone thing to a completely
unrelated thing. And it turnsout that that wasn't so much the
case, you know, that with eachmove, you kind of inched your

(47:51):
way closer to where you're atnow. And so in, in kind of
hearing that everything feltreal, everything kind of fell
into place, everything feltright. I think that the
preparation of having thatexperience leading up to that
moment is part of why I feltright. You know, like if you had
just been, you know, like, forexample, I don't know, like, I'm

(48:13):
trying to, I'm trying to thinkof something that isn't gonna
throw shade at anybody. But ifyou had been doing something
completely out, like Sage hasbeen working at a bank all this
time, you know what I mean? Likeyou just been working at a bank,
this whole time staying infinancial services didn't didn't
pivot into any of these otherplaces. And then all of a
sudden, in 2020, you wanted todrop everything moved to LA

(48:33):
become a musician. I don't knowif you would have ever even had
that thought. I don't know ifthat would have felt right,
because it wouldn't have beenright for you. Because you
wouldn't have been prepared forit. You know. So it's like, you
know, sometimes we worry aboutthe timeline of things, I think,
and whether we're doing thingstoo early or too late. But I
think going back to what yousaid before, trust your

(48:54):
intuition if something feelsright, you know that there's a
reason for it. And sometimes wedon't even realize we have as
much preparation as as we do.
You know, like, I didn't realizehow much work I'd been doing on
Comedy without labeling it untilI dove into it. And I was like,
I don't know, it feels right.
And I've found I've found notesMurphy, I found notes of comedy
sets that I was trying to dothat dated back as far as nine

(49:17):
years. I just found an old file.
That was literally comedyquestion mark was the name of
the file. And it's from March of20. Oh,
it's just something questionmark. As if, like, you didn't
know what you're talking about,like, almost all my notes are
this question mark. Like, Idon't know. Like, what what?

(49:38):
Yes, not question mark. Likethis. Trust yourself.
Exactly. Trust yourself. Trustyourself. Trust yourself. Yeah,
I love that. You know, go ahead.
No, no, please, please.
Well, I was saying I love thatyou brought that up because that
was an exact conversation I hadthe other day about um, you
didn't realize you were workingon Comedy so much in until You'd

(50:00):
like pick these things up, I hadthe exact conversation the other
day about, like how I want to bedoing more creative writing to
kind of stimulate that part ofmy brain in terms of like lyric
writing. And like, I keep a verystrict, like, keep very strict
when it shouldn't be as strictbut I keep a very extensive like
Journal of like what I'msupposed to do of my habits and
all that stuff. And I was goingback through and saying, like,

(50:20):
Oh, I didn't creative, right,like these days these days. And
I was talking to someone, andthey were like, well, you, you.
Just because you didn't checkthe box of what you thought was
supposed to be your creativewriting time doesn't mean that
it wasn't that like writing justlike weird, like notes in my
phone are like one offs ofstuff. Yeah, where I'm just like
thinking, but I didn't like sitdown and have structured

(50:43):
Creative Writing time. I thinkmentally we all don't like
really, man, I won't speak foreveryone. I know myself, I don't
do a great job of accounting forthat and giving myself credit
for that. And you know,celebrating the win of actually
doing something that I've beenmeaning to doing. Do because I
didn't do it in the exact boxthat I wanted to do it. So

(51:04):
exactly what you said, likeyou've been working on it, the
things that we know we want todo, and then we know we're good
at and that are like ourcallings you've been working at
your entire life. Yeah, may notalways realize it. And it may
not always be overt. But ifyou're passionate about it, and
you have the drive to do it,it's always been somewhere in
your mind, it's always beensomewhere within what you're

(51:26):
doing. And what you just do on adaily basis and your experiences
and the way you you live yourlife, it's always in there
somewhere whether or not youreally kind of are like overtly
aware of it. And you start torealize that once you start to
realize that and actually acceptthat, and like, really own that,
that becomes then that's thatjust like snowballs, and then

(51:48):
that becomes even morereinforcing. Because you realize
that you are you know, you getmore confidence because like I'm
I know what I'm doing becauseI've been doing this because
this is intertwined. In everypart of my life. This is who I
am, this is what I love is whatI want to do. 100%.
And yeah, it's like the answeris always inside of us. It's
like we're doing it without evenrealizing. And sometimes we just

(52:09):
need other people to help usbring it out. Like you were
saying, you know, when you meetother people who are on the same
path as you, it's reinforcing.
And that that's exactly why Istarted this podcast, honestly,
it's like, I wanted to hearother people's stories to see
where I fit into it and where Idon't. And even earlier today, I
was sending an email to someone.
And I was kind of telling themabout kind of an idea that I

(52:31):
have for my platform. And Ithink I like came up with my
three main pillars for formoving forward, just in the
middle of writing that email,you know, it's like, connection
is everything.
And yeah, we reinforce eachother. That's the beauty of it
is that you find people andthey're doing it doing like,

(52:51):
Okay, cool. And you learn youlearn from them. Also you learn
what works, what doesn't what,what their insights, and we're
all just a big community helpingeach other kind of, because
everyone wants, like, when youmeet people who are also doing
that, you realize that they wantyou to succeed, because by then
helping you succeed, it'sreciprocal, you know that if

(53:11):
you're in a community of peoplewho are all helping each other
succeed, and you're helpingeveryone succeed, they're gonna
do the same exact really, itreally reinforces it.
Exactly. 100%. And I'm gratefulthat you were you're part of
this new circle of mine, andthat we're able to reinforce
each other. Man, I got to startbeing careful when I yeah, I'm

(53:33):
happy to have you here, too. Gotto start being careful when I
bring artists on CDs. I thinkyou might have now beaten both
Marshall and Addy woolridge asas the longest Interview
Artists, I could talk man, wewent from baby Hawk. I think we
covered like two of thequestions on my list. But this
is great. Man. I love thisinterview. I knew that we would

(53:55):
have plenty of material to talkabout. We'll have to do it
again. Absolutely. We'll start apodcast and have you on it. 100%
Yeah, because there's that therewere actually some other things
that I really wanted to get tothat the we get to at all. So
yeah, we'll have to do a followup of some sort. It's such a
completely different subject.
But I'm like, we can't startthis. Now. My listeners have to
do I want to respect their timetoo. So yeah, we'll do it. We'll

(54:17):
do a follow up for sure. Youknow, we literally see each
other at least twice a week wewill for sure make it happen. So
aside from from promos, we'll dothat in a second. Is there
anything else that you want tosay that you'd be remiss if you
if you left it out? Oh, nopressure. If the answer is Yeah.
Look that just showed your face.

(54:42):
Just believe in your belief inyourself. And remember that even
when you don't believe inyourself, it's okay because
sometimes we don't sometimessometimes you doubt yourself
sometimes you're not feelingthat's okay. That's okay. These
things come in waves. Justalways come back with Even
yourself. Maybe take three deepbreaths. Let it go. Yeah. And

(55:04):
yeah, I don't know. I'm a selfhelp guru now
I guess. Welcome to LA myfriend. He fit right in with
your daily Runyon Canyon runs.
I'm actually gonna go do thatright after this. Oh, you were
correct. That's great. Murphy,thank you so much for coming on.
I had a great conversation withyou. As always, I'm always happy
that we got to record one forone.

(55:27):
Yeah, right. Oh, man, this hasbeen great. I love it. I'll see
you. I'll see you on Monday.
Absolutely. But in the meantime,is there anything that you would
like to promote? Where where canour listeners find you? Oh, um,
we got a new video thathopefully is coming out. June
25. Now it looks like got thecall. It's promoting. It's

(55:48):
raising awareness for what'sgoing on in Oak flat, Arizona,
the US government is trying tosell sacred tribal Apache land
to a foreign mining company. Andthey're going to tear it all up.
I went down there with Marshall,who you've already on the show,
and Turin frost who's also inanother major, amazing artist
and activist. And we we kind ofwanted to see what's going on

(56:11):
for ourselves. We checked itout. We learned from kind of the
people who were camping there.
We also met some of the peoplewho were there for like a ritual
celebration over the weekend.
Basically, videos coming out.
25th more instructions, butcheck out the link in my bio for
what you can do. You can writeyour senator, you can call your
senator, tell them don't destroythis beautiful oasis in the

(56:31):
desert to mine for copper. Yeah,save oak flat, hashtag
protective flat, hashtag saveoak flat?
Absolutely. You want to hearsomething very funny. The thing
that I said I wanted to get intothat we didn't have time for was
literally that. So listeners,please segue, please, please

(56:53):
check out the video, pleasecheck out the hashtags I do. I
do want to have you on again totalk more in depth. And maybe
we'll do a joint thing with youand Marshall, about just using
using our platform as artists toshine a spotlight on things that
we think are really importantbecause one of the things that
I've been learning a lot aboutin this pandemic or not a lot,

(57:15):
probably not enough, but but alittle bit is about, you know,
some of the stuff that'shappened to the indigenous
people here in America. And Ifeel a lot of I feel a lot of a
kinship with them, you know, andlisten, people are like, Oh, are
we supposed to just give themthe land back? And I'm like,
Yeah, yes, yes. Please give theland back to the people who

(57:37):
protect the land. Yeah, respect.
People like me who aretransgender, like shit. What
What do I have to lose? Right?
Yeah, let's let's Yeah, let'sgive the land to the only people
who aren't destroying it andactually know how to use it and
make it Yeah, like, What a crazyidea.
Exactly. Yeah, so definitelycheck that out. I'm sure I'm
sure there'll be a link toMurphy's direct Instagram

(57:59):
account as well as as the linksfor learning more about oak
flats and what's going on overthere. Yeah, sorry. Is there
anything else that you want topromote?
And if you want to get COVIDpandemic laugh check out at
Freddie Mercury COVID. For allparity needs. How many? How many
listeners are like 4050 plus ofthis podcast made? It might be

(58:23):
more than genre? I've found.
Yep. Dating kids these days?
Don't listen to Queen. That'strue. Yeah, you
cut out for just a second but Icould fill in it was it's a
comedy parody account, where Mr.
Murphy bug plays Freddie Mercuryand he made Queen parody songs
based on COVID It's great.

(58:44):
Definitely check that out aswell. That's a clever one. Have
a great day. I believe inyourself. Absolutely. Thank you
so much. Murphy. I will see yousoon. My pleasure. See in real
life. Alright, once again, thatwas Murphy bug. Thank you again

(59:05):
for coming on the show. Murphy.
It's always a pleasure talkingto you. And hey, listener,
you're still here. What's up?
How's it going? How do you likethe show so far? Let me know.
I'm thinking about closing outthe season soon just to give
myself a little bit of a breakin between you know, the move
and and getting my contentcreation off the ground? Aye.

(59:30):
Aye. Kind of getting a littlebit overwhelmed with my schedule
here. So I want to take thattime to both give myself a break
and also just kind of reallyfocus in on the direction that I
want this show to go so youknow, follow me on social media.
And you know, let me know hit meup. Let me know which episodes

(59:51):
you liked the best and what yourwhat you're really liking about
the show because the more inputthat I get from y'all, the
better I can make the show foryou. So yeah, thank you again
for being on this journey withme. If you haven't already,
please leave me a five starrating and review especially on
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evolving.