June 8, 2025 • 50 mins
Dani and Stephanie serve up another unsettling episode, this week about the grim and twisted story of Alofa Time, a man whose approach to relationship problems led to hideous violence and tragic accidents. From strangling and decapitating his estranged wife Theresa to causing a fatal car crash while under the influence, Alofa's actions are recounted with the blend of true crime intrigue and commentary you're here for. Join us for an episode that unearths the shocking chain of events and courtroom drama in Boise, Idaho. Grab a drink and brace yourself for a tale of broken marriages and broken lives.
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Stephanie (00:30):
Welcome back to the Lethal Library, where the drinks
are strong, but the decisions ofour killers are not.
Dani (00:38):
Danny,
Stephanie (00:39):
what
Dani (00:39):
do you got for us today?
Today's story is about a Lofateam A, and I'm telling you,
I'm, it's spelled like theclock, TIME, time clock.
Uh.
So if I accidentally do that, myapologies.
Uh, it's Team A, a man whosomehow thought the best way to
(01:03):
work out relationship issues waswith threats, violence, and
eventually unthinkablebrutality.
After marrying Theresa T, thereI go.
After marrying Theresa team a.
I apologize.
Divorcing her six months laterand then re reuniting for some
reason.
(01:23):
Will never understand this lovestory.
Took a nose dive straight intowhore spoiler.
If your idea of resolvingconflict includes a K bar knife
and a suicide note, you're not aromantic.
You're just a walking felony.
Yeah.
Stephanie (01:38):
Um, red flags, were literally shooting across the
sky like fireworks for that.
Dani (01:45):
So grab your drink and buckle up because this story
starts with a bad marriage andends with multiple lives,
shattered, severed, andsentenced.
A Alofa and Theresa Time weremarried in March, 2004.
The couple had been together forabout four and a half years
before they got married.
But just after a few months,they were divorced in October of
(02:09):
2004.
Yeah,
Stephanie (02:10):
six months is extremely fast.
Just'cause you know how long theprocess of both marriage and
divorces.
So,
Dani (02:19):
yikes.
The couple ended up getting backtogether, but they did not
remarry.
And we've seen this, you know,people that have done this.
I, I
Stephanie (02:28):
do know people who have done this.
Dani (02:30):
My parents.
On March 19th, 2006, Alofa Timewas charged with misdemeanor
domestic battery.
He had thrown Theresa on the bedand tried to choke her.
Just five days later, Theresaasked the judge to terminate the
(02:50):
no contact order that prohibitedTime from talking or meeting
with Theresa.
We need to work things out.
And that's hard to do with a nocontact order was written in a
request to the judge.
I just
Stephanie (03:06):
gotta pop in here.
I know you guys have heard ussay it several times, but I
don't think it can ever be saidenough, especially if someone
chokes you.
This doesn't discount any otherforms of domestic violence,
whether it be physical oremotional.
That's all still incrediblyrelevant and.
Please get out.
(03:28):
But if someone is choking orattempting to strangle you, your
odds of the next incident beingyour death are increased.
I don't even know what thestatistic is.
It's probably very, very high.
It is incredibly high.
So that is not even, I can'teven call it a red flag that is
(03:49):
literally a red firework tryingto blast in in your face, and I
know.
It is not easy to leave.
As we can see, she wantedreasons to cut the no contact,
make it work.
But please, if this ev this typeof thing ever happens to you
know how serious thatimplication is and how likely it
(04:15):
is that you could also become astatistic.
You may not, and if you don't,that's wonderful, but it's.
The risk with it has beendocumented.
Dani (04:29):
Absolutely.
But the judge did do something.
Really?
He, yeah.
Theresa was required to attenddomestic violence and safety
planning courses at the ValleyCrisis Center in Nampa before he
would lift the no contact order.
So to help inform, right?
Correct.
(04:49):
Theresa attended five classesand then the judge approved her
request.
So he did, he, it wasn't like,oh, nevermind, she doesn't want
it.
He's like, no.
He tried to do his duediligence.
Yeah, he did.
Do I, I feel like, hey, you needto go take these classes.
And that was good on him.
Um, but Times still has a courtdate for choking Theresa on July
(05:11):
25th of that year because thestate will take it.
So it's not, yeah, it's thewoman.
It's not over versus the man.
Right.
It's the state versus the man.
It's, it's not.
Over at six 30 in the morning onJune 15th, 2006, a Boise police
officer was driving on FranklinRoad to help another officer
Meridian with an accident.
(05:34):
The officer was driving aboutsix to eight car lengths behind
Time's.
2001 Dodge Ram.
As he got closer to Time.
Time drove across the centerlane and straight into the path
of a Nissan Sentra.
What the two vehicles collided.
Stephanie (05:55):
Oh, a big truck versus a Nissan Sentra.
Dani (05:59):
Yeah.
Not good.
The Nissan was smashed and thetruck had flipped over but had
landed back on its wheels.
It was a stunt truck like it.
Mm-hmm.
Like flipped over all the way.
The officer ran over to theNissan to find 36-year-old
Samantha Murphy and her4-year-old daughter Jalen dead.
(06:20):
Oh fuck.
Samantha's 8-year-old daughterSydney was alive and crying for
help in the backseat of thecrumpled car.
A witness to the accident cameover and the officer asked them
to help Sidney while he checkedon the other vehicle involved in
the accident.
(06:40):
The officer approached the truckand seen the occupant.
Was conscious, which you don'twhen you're seeing mm-hmm.
That kind of a traumaticaccident, you
Stephanie (06:49):
don't assume like, no, no.
Dani (06:53):
The officer noticed several broken beer bottles
littered.
The scene
Stephanie (06:59):
that had been tossed around because it was tossed
around a little flip.
Dani (07:05):
He asked Time to get out of the truck.
Time was very excited andstarted talking about how he
killed his girlfriend and thatthere was a severed head in his
truck.
Oh my God, I'm remembering this
Stephanie (07:19):
now.
Ah, I remember this Now.
Dani (07:25):
The officer thought Time was delusional because of the
accident.
Fair?
Stephanie (07:31):
Yeah, because obvi, you would never, you'd be like,
okay, excuse me.
What concussed?
Sure.
Yep.
Super concussed cussed
Dani (07:41):
Time who had blood on his shirt and hands pled for the
officer on the scene to shoothim because he had just murdered
his wife.
Stephanie (07:50):
Which would cause confusion.
'cause you're like, what did yousee your wife and you crashed
into her?
Like is that when you're firstcoming onto a scene, you don't
know what the hell's going on.
I'd be like, excuse me.
Slow,
Dani (08:02):
slow, slow down.
I imagine that a lot of that wasgo like, what is going on?
The fuck are you talking about?
Oh
Stephanie (08:10):
my
Dani (08:11):
God.
Another officer arrived on thescene and followed a trail of
blood left on the road.
At the end of the trail,approximately 30 feet from the
truck was a severed head on theside of the road.
Stephanie (08:25):
And to, to find that and it be true, that would even
be so hard for me to even, like,I'm trying to put myself, I'd be
like, and now we're finding noway, this can't be real, but
Dani (08:39):
also.
Some thoughts to the O.
The officers thought maybe itbelonged to somebody involved in
the accident, right?
Stephanie (08:49):
Because a violent wreck like that, the truck
flipped, two people are dead.
It's not unheard of to see thattype of carnage in a wreck,
Dani (09:01):
especially a big Ram pickup versus a ra.
Yeah.
But after checking the victimsthoroughly, they realized it
didn't belong to anyone on thescene.
Mm.
Can you imagine those officers?
Stephanie (09:17):
Yeah.
'cause I would never believewhen they say he came out of the
truck excited.
First of all, you're like, thisis such an a weird response.
You must have hit your goddamnhead, right?
Mm-hmm.
Like there's.
You, you clearly, whatever yousay it ha, it has got to be just
nonsense.
Dani (09:37):
And then they have
Stephanie (09:38):
to process, oh wait.
Oh shit, we di oh, and you dohave blood on you and you're not
bleeding.
And now we found a head.
That would be very tough for meto process or to even get on
board of like, what if andrealize like, oh shit.
Chaotic.
Dani (09:57):
Oh my god.
Team a age 50 was arrested atthe scene when he was searched.
The arresting officers found asuicide note in his wallet.
It stated he had$300 set asidefor his cremation and he wants
his ashes spread over tablerock.
When they searched the truck,they found another lengthy
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suicide note that detailed whyhe killed Theresa.
At the top of his note, he wrotemotive and underlined it.
The note indicated he was tiredof his wife hitting him, calling
him names and making fun of hismanhood.
Okay, police also located a 12inch K bar knife at the scene.
Stephanie (10:46):
Oh, we've heard about a K bar knife recently.
Haven't.
Yeah.
Yeah,
Dani (10:49):
we have.
It's been coberg sheaths,
Stephanie (10:52):
Amazon.
So look up ca to know what styleof knife it is.
Look it up.
What's a K bar knife?
It's,
Dani (11:02):
it's a large hunting yeah.
Style knife.
It's meant for gutting things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Police then went to the couple'shome located in Nampa, where the
officers discovered a gruesomescene.
Theresa Time's body was foundsitting up in the driver's seat
of a car parked in the garage.
Stephanie (11:23):
That is unimaginable, like I'm imagining it, but I'm
just like sitting up a bodywithout a head.
Dani (11:36):
This
Stephanie (11:36):
is
Dani (11:36):
insane.
Yeah, this was, this one's beenon my list since day one.
Um, but it's taken me this longto, and I can see why Theresa
age 46 was born in Samoa, whereshe was raised and educated.
(11:57):
She moved to California in thelate seventies where she raised
her three sons.
In 2000, she moved to Idaho.
Theresa was a support worker fora self-reliance team at the
Idaho Department of Health andWelfare for over two and a half
years.
Theresa's family said how lovingshe was.
She was very helpful and enjoyedentertaining.
(12:20):
Her three sons were ages 11, 16,and 19 at the time of her
murder.
That is terrible.
Their babies still.
Stephanie (12:31):
no, I fucking remember this now.
But it's one of those ones whereI was the age that I would just
hear it secondhand on.
I knew it was a huge deal'causeit was like a months long media
thing that you hear every night.
My, my parents listen to thenews and stuff, but I never,
(12:51):
it's pretty gruesome.
Yeah.
Dani (12:53):
earlier that morning around 5:30 AM Time had called
his sister Rita and told her hehad killed Theresa.
His sister begged him not tokill himself and tried to call
the police.
Barita lived in California.
Stephanie (13:11):
So to get, especially at that time to be like, you
need to transfer me to the Idaho
Dani (13:18):
like and.
Uh, find a number like so fast,the panic.
Rita lived in California, so shetried to reach out to another
brother.
Samati.
He lived in Boise, so Ritathought he could notify the
police.
Yeah, way easier.
but she couldn't reach him, soshe ended up calling Sumits
(13:39):
daughter.
And if I'm saying that namewrong, I apologize.
So the family knew something badwas terrible, and, and I think
if.
I had a sibling call me and saythat they killed their sp I
(14:00):
would probably have a hard timebelieving it.
I probably think it was like amanic break.
Yeah.
And like, you know, and, andyour, your siblings threatening
to kill themselves.
You know, like, wait, wait,wait.
Time is charged with firstdegree murder for the death of
Theresa and second degree murderfor the death of Samantha and
(14:22):
Jaylin, the pa, the people thathe ran into.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Samantha Murphy was 36.
She was driving her girls todaycare the morning she died.
That's just an average fuckingday.
Every day you're doing yourroutine.
(14:43):
She was employed at Baird's drycleaners in Boise and was just
promoted to office manager.
Stephanie (14:49):
I think Baird's is very close to my work.
That's so crazy.
Dani (14:53):
Yeah.
And they're, they're pretty, uh,they might have multiple
Stephanie (14:56):
offices.
Dani (14:56):
Yeah, I do believe that.
They're pretty, um.
Stephanie (15:01):
Well known like Yeah, they're like the dry cleaner of
the area.
Yeah,
Dani (15:05):
they have several locations here.
Samantha was born in Jerome,Idaho, and later her family
moved to the Spokane, Washingtonarea and that's where she
graduated from high school.
She graduated from SpokaneCommunity College.
her three daughters were the joyof her life, and she was a
wonderful mother.
(15:26):
She had just recently relocatedback to the Boise area about a
year before with her twoyoungest girls, Sydney, age
eight, and Jaylen age four.
Her 16-year-old daughter Kayleeremained in the Spokane area.
Fair.
She's like, Uhuh, I'm notleaving high school.
Right.
I don't blame her.
Yeah.
(15:46):
A sixteen's a rough age to bepicking up and starting over.
Mm-hmm.
A couple more years with your,with your friends.
So yeah.
You want that?
Uh, Samantha enjoyed taking hergirls to church and just
recently had picked upcrocheting and she had made some
really cool things for herdaughters and she picked it up
really fast.
So, and her girls were her worldand little Jaylen loved to play
(16:12):
in the water and ride her bike,and she loved Dorothy Explorer.
She was full of laughter andfun.
The picture I saw a picture of,of Samantha and Jaylen, and she
was cutie patooty.
Stephanie (16:29):
And just knowing, like I'm on TikTok a lot, but I
get a lot of those videos oflike just the most ridiculous
car crashes.
And let me just tell you, carcrashes are one of my only fears
in life.
I think that's why I'm such adiligent driver.
Like I commute you and I commutea lot.
(16:49):
Mm-hmm.
And so we see, and I think thatwe, when you've done it for so
many years, you know, to lookout for, someone's gonna pull a
bullshit move here.
Like you know what to look forand just, this is one of those
things that there is nothingthat you could do to prevent it.
(17:12):
No, there's nothing, there's nodefensive driving that you could
likely do when a Dodge Ram wantsto veer into your shit.
He was doing it
Dani (17:21):
on purpose.
Yes,
Stephanie (17:22):
exactly.
Dani (17:23):
It was a suicide mission for him.
And so
Stephanie (17:25):
it's, it's not one of those things where you're like,
even if the light green checkboth sides, which is a great
practice because some people runvery, very, very red lights.
This is not something that youwould normally be looking for.
And even if you were.
Where the fuck would you go?
So that's what pisses me offabout this is this is just as we
(17:47):
said, someone just doing theirregular
Dani (17:49):
and in 2007 Franklin Road looked a lot different than it
does now.
It was almost, it was country.
Stephanie (17:57):
Yes.
Dani (17:57):
Where you're cruising 45, it's better than the freeway.
There's
Stephanie (18:01):
nothing.
Yeah.
Dani (18:02):
Better than the freeway.
Actually, less risk.
You think?
You
Stephanie (18:08):
would think?
Yeah, unless you've got afucking psycho with his wife's
head, ex-wife, whatever youfucking wanna call it in the
trunk on a weird suicide missionwhere not only you can't just
kill yourself, you gotta killother people about it.
I don't understand that.
(18:30):
I think a lot of people havedepression or whatever, and.
But why would you ever hurtsomeone else?
Why?
Dani (18:39):
It just baffles me a little.
FYIT may have been charged inCalifornia 10 years previous for
abusing a spouse in California.
Some of these men, y'all
Stephanie (18:53):
don't like women at all.
They just don't like women.
Dani (19:00):
So in June, Time pled not guilty for the murder of Theresa
prosecutors said, okay, we'regonna seek the death penalty.
Yeah, you wanna do that?
Yeah,
Stephanie (19:12):
let's go.
And how brazen is that?
Yeah, I, you've essentiallyadmitted it.
What the fuck?
Dani (19:20):
I, yeah.
But I do think that, um, uh, ifI was a defendant, I would
immediate, even though I knew, Iwas just like, you always do
that.
Sure.
It's just a natural, likecompulsory, let's go not guilty
and let me figure out my lifefirst.
Yeah.
In August, the autopsy reportfor Theresa came back.
(19:44):
Time had strangled her beforeshe was beheaded.
Think, I mean, can you,
Stephanie (19:51):
yeah.
Yeah.
You don't want that to happenwhen you're alive, but once
again, someone chokes you.
It's a very personal thing.
Absolutely.
And so that's why it's astatistic.
It is not a myth, it's not afantasy.
(20:11):
Statistically, run, get out.
Please find a way out.
Dani (20:18):
Theresa also had stab wounds to her chest, but no
other wounds to her body.
I really feel like, and there's,there's gonna be a little bit
more later in the story.
I.
I really feel like she came homeand she like open, like she
opened her car door and like,'cause there's no defense
(20:39):
wounds.
Yeah.
There was no other wounds.
It, he just stabbed her.
Stephanie (20:44):
That's fucking terrible, dude.
I'm not saying it's, it isrelevant at any point.
It's not like they werejustifiable.
Right?
Dani (20:52):
It's not like they were fighting and this happened.
No, like.
Yeah, fucking awful.
in December of 2006, Time pledguilty to first degree murder to
avoid the death penalty.
Oh.
Which is good because it, whichif
Stephanie (21:07):
you wrote a, here's my thing.
Oh, here we go.
I'm passionate about this.
Mm-hmm.
You wrote a suicide note.
You were supposedly gonna killyourself and kill two innocent
people that have nothing to dowith you and left another child
motherless.
But you don't want the deathpenalty.
To me, it just doesn't compute.
(21:29):
You want it to die so fuckingbad.
We know that prison isn't acakewalk.
It is not fun.
I would not like prison.
So what's the problem with thedeath penalty?
Me personally, I would never doany of this, but I try to put
myself and say to myself.
(21:50):
What would lead me there?
Why would I do it?
What would be my mindset?
And if it was me, why?
If I was willing to kill myself,wrote two notes, I would be
welcoming it.
You're ready to go.
Let's
Dani (22:05):
go then let's go.
Give me some sheets, bro.
Yo, is that too harsh?
I'm sorry.
Stephanie (22:12):
Sorry.
Let's get that firing squad setup.
Find the fucking drugs, which weknow Idaho took years and years
to, to produce maybe some, tofind, they had to find the black
dog.
Some, some.
Somehow you find a will to livein prison, which is so weird to
me.
I don't think that's where I'dfind my will to live of
anywhere.
(22:32):
Mm-hmm.
But now, now we, we just we'rewilling to give up certain
things because we want to livein prison.
It will never make sense to me.
I know that was a tangent.
But I just, I can't likelogically make the dots connect.
Dani (22:55):
And I would just like to say, thank you Harry, for
fucking up our recording.
that my dog.
So you heard a
Stephanie (23:02):
small little dog?
No, you didn't.
Dani (23:04):
No you didn't.
We'll see.
All right.
In 2007, ADA County prosecutorsand Times defense team work on a
plea agreement for the murdersof Samantha and Jaylin.
Prosecutors dropped the twocharges of second degree murder
and recharged him with twocounts of vehicular manslaughter
(23:26):
and one count of aggravated DUI.
Stephanie (23:29):
I don't like that.
I understand you have to giveand take and everything, but
truly that.
If you're willing to drive intosomeone and you know, having a
truck, who's gonna win in thefight.
Right.
You know who's gonna win?
Dani (23:44):
I know Who's gonna lose Yeah.
On my vehicle that I personallydrive every day.
Yeah.
Well, it's metal.
Well, and do you fight?
Do you fight with a semi?
No.
You're never going to win.
Do you know that?
It took me an hour and 15minutes to get home yesterday.
Fuck.
Were you in that bullshit?
I
Stephanie (24:03):
was.
It took me longer.
I didn't take the freewayyesterday because my thing Oh,
because you,
Dani (24:07):
you use your maps.
Yeah.
I don't, I just get on.
So I was on the connector and Iget a phone call from Jared who
never calls me.
Oh.
I was on the phone with mymother.
I'm like, uh, I wasn't evenquite on the connector actually.
I better just pick up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, uh, Jared said a motorcycle.
(24:28):
Oh my God.
Hit the back of some type of aconstruction vehicle.
I've heard that it was, Adamsaid it was a concrete truck.
My mom said it was, but Adam sawthe guy weaving in and out of
traffic.
Yes, yes, yes.
I am so scared of motorcycle.
And I was just saying yesterdaymorning before the accident.
(24:52):
I had three differentmotorcycles weaving in and out
on the freeway, and I'm like,you are going to die.
You're gonna hurt yourself.
And I'm very conscious, I'm veryaware, but I can't be, when
you're weaving in and out of meat 70, you at 70 miles, if
you're going a
Stephanie (25:06):
hundred and everyone else is going 30 and you're
passing people at that, you, youdon't, people don't have time to
accurately judge a lane change.
Dani (25:15):
No.
Stephanie (25:16):
So if you're, anyways, it's just, oh my God.
But
Dani (25:18):
that was back to the big versus small, like.
Unfortunately, you're not goingto win the guy, the guy lived,
Stephanie (25:25):
thank God.
Because usually you don't, moster, you know those tiktoks where
it's like ER people or doctors?
What would you do?
Things I would never do.
Ride a motor.
Motorcycle.
Yeah.
I don't care if you've got yourhelmet and all the gear.
He's like, if I could tell youthe amount of times where
someone's head comes to me in ahelmet and is in perfect
condition, but it's attachedfrom the body.
Dani (25:47):
Yeah.
It doesn't
Stephanie (25:49):
matter.
Yeah.
Dani (25:51):
So it was deliberate and I, but I also, you're going to,
there's gonna be some more inthis story while they're just
like, let's get this done.
And so if there's somesatisfaction,
Stephanie (26:07):
sometimes you have to settle.
Yeah, no, I get it.
And I understand why thishappens.
It's just, it makes, it's notfair.
I, I feel like words matter and.
What you're charged for matters.
And this was not vehicularmanslaughter.
Dani (26:23):
I cannot wait for you to hear what the judge has to say.
Oh, judge, tell me.
So during an arraignment hearingfor the new charges, prosecutors
said that Time was under theinfluence of phentermine when he
slammed his pickup into Samanthaand her kids.
Stephanie (26:40):
Now I gotta turn the table over because any.
Any millennial knows whatphentermine is.
Gen X probably knows too.
extremely popular weight lossdrug.
Little bit kraish, I'm not gonnalie.
I tried it, it helped me loseweight of a little bit, kraish,
(27:01):
a little bit, a sprinkle ofmessiness.
Sure.
Are you, you're
Dani (27:06):
very thirsty.
Stephanie (27:07):
You're very thirsty and, and I think it does have a
propensity for abuse.
Sure.
That.
I'm sure there's people thatabuse it.
Yeah, but that's the reason youplow your huge ass truck into a
Nissan Sentra.
Dani (27:22):
Well, maybe well Time admitted to taking an excessive
amount.
Probably.
Listen, listen how excessive.
And all those beer bottles.
He was probably trying to,
Stephanie (27:36):
he's clean, kill himself.
Dani (27:38):
Clean, which I don't know how much French you mean you'd
have to take to kill yourself?
I probably really a lot.
But then he was drinking beer,obviously.
I mean, I'm assuming those beerbottles were and decided to kill
other people about it.
That's
Stephanie (27:50):
where most suicidal people, they already are very
ashamed of the effects that it'sgonna take on their families.
Yep.
And to, to kill other people init unless they're in a cult or
some type of religious sect orsome type of, or a terrorist
Weird political Yes.
Like a political thing wherethey're like, this is a right.
(28:11):
Wanna be mortar, righteousmartyr.
Mortar martyr.
Sure.
That, that, for the most part,suicidal people would never hurt
another person.
Dani (28:23):
No.
That's not their goal.
No, they're no.
Oh, when the judge asked him whyhe was pleading guilty, he said
he didn't remember causing theaccident, but agreed it was his
fault.
Stephanie (28:39):
Convenient
Dani (28:40):
quote.
I took my medication, drove mycar, and got into an accident,
took my medication asprescribed.
I just wanna say I don't recallwhen, when this happened.
Convenient.
Sure.
And Time bled guilty of thosecharges.
I mean, that's,
Stephanie (28:58):
at least they get something.
Sure.
But I think that we all know,like even if you don't remember
it, you were functioning anddoing things to lead up to this.
You had the foresight to writenotes.
You knew what your purpose was,so fuck off
Dani (29:18):
his sentencing hearing was held in March.
He begs Samantha's family forforgiveness.
Quote, I am consumed with grief.
There are no words I can say.
Your pain is embedded deep in mysoul.
I am deeply sorry.
I hope you find it in your heartto forgive me.
Fourth district Judge Debra Balesentenced Time to 45 years in
(29:42):
prison.
The maximum sentences for allthree charges,
Stephanie (29:46):
thank goodness.
'cause sometimes you can getlike three or four on a
vehicular.
Yeah.
Dani (29:50):
She told Time, he quote, forfeited all rights to be among
free people.
There is no point discussingrehabilitation when it comes,
when, uh, a crime goes this far.
Judge Bale said Time's crimestemmed from uncontrollable rage
and she considered him guilty ofmurder, not manslaughter for
(30:12):
killing Samantha and Jaylen.
Thank you, judge.
Go Judge.
Bail.
Geez.
Yeah, that's why I was, I mean,they agreed on this and I know
that there's reasons and justwe're gonna continue, but I
mean, the judge was like, thiswas.
This was fucking murder.
Yeah.
Everyone knows it.
Sure.
(30:33):
You're fucking murderer.
Nevermind your wife.
Yeah.
But these poor, innocent, uh,this poor, innocent mother and
child
Stephanie (30:43):
that were just on the way to fucking daycare, dude.
Ooh,
Dani (30:48):
Samantha's father, Lloyd Puckett told Time, quote, Mr.
Time.
I want you to look at thesepictures.
Every time I look at you, I feelmy blood pressure go up.
I can't help it, which is so.
That's so real.
Like imagine that happening toyour best friend,
Stephanie (31:09):
sister, your mom.
Dani (31:10):
I, but he was so controlled in saying that
because I've been like, yeah,motherfucker.
But I would and maybe had to
Stephanie (31:18):
have the bailiff escort.
Sure.
Dani (31:20):
Classy Mr.
Puckett.
And I love that last name by theway.
Mm-hmm.
Just'cause Yeah.
I love that last name.
Um, Lloyd stated that he forgavehim for his crimes, even though
their family is still mourningthe loss of his daughter and
granddaughter.
Quote, Jaylen was the sweetestthing.
You have taken her from me.
(31:42):
This is so good.
Lloyd said Time was lucky he wasgoing to prison for life because
he had time to possibly pay forhis sins on earth instead of in
hell quote, don't blow it.
Ooh.
Stephanie (31:58):
I love that.
You know what?
That's probably one of the bestlittle, like, made a
Dani (32:02):
good Lloyd fucking arguments.
You could
Stephanie (32:05):
have
Dani (32:07):
Samantha's stepmother.
Marcy asked why Time didn't picka, a telephone pole or dump
truck if he wanted to killhimself.
Inanimate object.
Sure.
She also spoke of Sydney, who isnow being raised by her
grandparents.
It's
Stephanie (32:22):
a tiny baby.
Dani (32:25):
Marcy says Sydney is played by nightmares and
continues to be devastated bythe loss of her mother and
sister at eight.
Can you not poor?
I will say this, I did do alittle research on her.
Uh, she, I think she was 18.
(32:48):
she was doing very well.
She was a rodeo queen and veryinvolved with her horses and
stuff.
I mean, I'm not saying that thiswasn't a horrible thing, but for
her to overcome that and besuccessful Yeah.
As a child.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kudos, kudos, Sydnee.
I can't imagine no.
(33:09):
Rita Time's sister told thecourt that she and her family
were praying for Samantha andJaylin and the rest of the
victim's family every day.
She said that they appreciatedthat Puckett.
The Puckett's had forgiven herbrother.
The love that I'm just after thehearing was over, both families
(33:30):
exchanged, tearful, embraces inthe hallway of the court.
Because it has messed up all thefamilies.
Yeah.
And for them to, it was verysweet that, um, that they were
like able to reach Yeah.
And not hate and
Stephanie (33:45):
understanding, not
Dani (33:46):
hate each other.
And because yeah.
That's all they had, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Stephanie (33:53):
Ugh.
Dani (33:55):
A few days later, Time was back in court this time for the
sentencing, for the first degreemurder, plea of Theresa.
Theresa's son, Abraham t Lily,sorry, age 17 said, I miss her
every day, and I wish her lifedidn't have to end in such a
(34:16):
brutal way.
This awful man has taken one ofthe most precious gifts in our
lives.
This was his stepdad.
His stepdad.
Oh, so you think about the, soit's someone that he probably
tried to welcome and.
Yeah, they probably, so let'sjust say four and a half year.
(34:36):
Like he probably have known himsince he was like 10 or 11.
And you maybe
Stephanie (34:40):
had some apprehensions at first, but he's
part of your life now.
Yeah.
And knowing that they were incourt and stuff, he had probably
seen some shit.
Oh, absolutely.
Even if it wasn't super seriousshit, he had seen some shit and
then knowing that he escalatedit.
Ooh, it makes me so mad.
(35:01):
But as
Dani (35:02):
a 17-year-old, a young man to go in there and sound just
was very put together.
Mm-hmm.
Because me, at any age be like,you sound of a bitch.
All you can say is fuck you, andfuck you and fuck.
Like truly way to have thesepeople have class.
(35:25):
Yeah, a lot of class anddignity, so, and it's so much
Stephanie (35:31):
to be in a court because public speaking is like
the number one big fear.
Right, right.
And then add in the emotion ofit being regarding your loved
one that you lost.
To be able to talk.
Ooh, it's getting me a little,Ooh,
Dani (35:47):
no, they're very, I mean, they held themselves very well
and the just, they're veryclassy.
'cause at 17 I would've saidthey did it at 30.
I would've said it.
I mean, I just, no.
So, gosh, what gracious peopleseriously, Theresa's sister
(36:07):
Roberta testified that thefamily has decided to forgive.
Quote, we cannot live withbroken hearts in time.
We have to accept these thingshappen to us.
And with tears falling down herface, she stated, quote, I want
him to tell us why.
Why did you do this to mysister?
(36:28):
I
Stephanie (36:29):
fair a hundred percent because completely
unnecessary.
What could lead you, especiallyknowing how.
You completely
Dani (36:39):
ridiculous.
It ended, you fucking chokedher, first of all.
So if he was trying to get outtacourt, murder is not the way to
do that.
'cause he still had that courtdate.
And then
Stephanie (36:49):
to decapitate someone.
Mm-hmm.
You know, they always say like,stabbing is a more personal
thing than like a shooting oranything.
Decap.
I strangling, I feel bad eventalking about it.
But like decapitating someone.
Dani (37:06):
And then putting her head in his
Stephanie (37:09):
truck and just tossing it in there and writing
some notes.
Listen, I don't, I don't knowhow much phentermine
Dani (37:21):
even, even if we're, let's go Walter White blue, our meth
headss don't do this shit.
The way
Stephanie (37:27):
the meth don.
They don't do this.
So, and they're on that purecrystal.
So what the fuck is the problemhere?
Like,
Dani (37:36):
this is a brutal one.
Stuff I told you.
I mean, this is, I, I told stuffearlier, like this is the first,
I mean, I've, I've gottenemotional about other ones.
This is the first one.
Like I had tears running down myface and I told Danny, like,
Stephanie (37:53):
I remember hearing about this case'cause I was
younger when this happened.
And it was all over theheadlines.
'cause it's a very salaciousstory.
I mean, it is a decapitated headcoming out of a, a truck bed, it
sounds like made up too crazy tobe true.
Right?
Like, not even fit for movies.
Right.
(38:13):
So I remember hearing aboutthis, like, you know, you're a
kid.
Yeah.
Par parents are watching thenews.
Anyway, but it was a big dealand now I'm like, oh, this is
the, this is the shit thathappened.
Dani (38:30):
Team A stated during his hearing.
It's not easy to sit here todaybecause I was a part of your
family, and yet I caused thepain that brought you here.
I have no words to express howsorry I am.
He also apologized to his ownfamily for the shame and pain he
(38:51):
brought to them a.
They are so is yes, Theresa'sfamily, but also he drug his
family.
They seem very close, by theway.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And they're in there and, good.
You should feel fucking shameyou Dick.
Stephanie (39:12):
And I'm like, why didn't you feel shame before?
Because it feels like in a lotof these cases, if the suspect.
Would have felt shame forchoking his wife or remote
remorse, or even justembarrassment because some of
these folks act like they don'tknow.
(39:34):
People can see them like, bringback embarrassment.
Bring back a little bit ofshame.
Dani (39:40):
Fuck yeah.
Prosecutor Victoria Bond.
She sounds like a villain.
I love it.
Stephanie (39:47):
Yeah.
Dani (39:48):
Prosecutor Victoria Vaughn said Team A had made a conscious
decision to kill Theresa.
Clearly.
He purchased the knife and wroteletters before the attack.
Oh, Vaughn said quote, he waitedfor her that night.
Neighbors say he sat on thetailgate of his truck singing
(40:08):
that night like he wasintoxicated.
So it
Stephanie (40:11):
wasn't even an argument, which wouldn't excuse
it.
I know we all know this wasn't aheat of the moment, like arguing
over money or whatever.
As you know, most relationshipsdo to wait for someone when
there isn't a trigger.
And someone that's your partner.
(40:32):
And is he the father of any ofthese kids?
Dani (40:34):
No.
Stephanie (40:35):
Okay.
So he's a stepdad, but anyway,he's been a father figure.
Yep.
To sit and wait.
Yep.
For someone to like come homeafter work.
That's what he did.
To do that extreme of an act.
No, never out, please.
Mm-hmm.
Please just never be in societyagain because that is so toxic.
(41:01):
Can you imagine, ah, where youjust think, oh, our relationship
because we've been in toxicrelationships and you think,
man, this whole week we haven'teven fought.
And I don't know if that's thecase, but imagine that it was,
she pulls into
Dani (41:17):
the her
Stephanie (41:17):
driveway.
I haven't got the shit beatoutta me recently.
Well, I told the judge to dropthe restraining order.
We are working on it.
We've talked and some of thesenarcissists.
We've talked about a plan.
They've admitted to this, this,and that.
Everything's going good.
It's a random Tuesday,Wednesday, whatever the fuck day
(41:37):
it is, and someone is waitingfor you with that intention.
That is supposed to be yourpartner.
Disgusting.
Dani (41:48):
You ready to get more disgusted?
Oh my God, I'm not, but let's goPathologist, Dr.
Joseph Kranz testified.
That Theresa was alive when shewas cut twice with a knife in
the upper chest.
The cuts were deep enough toleave abrasions from the knife
(42:09):
handle.
Stephanie (42:13):
Okay.
I don't, I don't even know whatto say to that except just to be
appalled.
Dani (42:19):
She also suffered an internal blunt force trauma
wound on the back of her head asshe struggled in her car.
She was trying to get out of hercar.
Stephanie (42:28):
Yeah, you're kind of in a compromised area, like I'm
trying to imagine this andespecially I think we all are in
like.
Routine mode, pull into thedriveway, grab purse, blah,
blah, blah.
And she probably saw him sittingthere and then, then someone
attacks you that you're like, ofcourse this person can't be
attacking me.
We're not even fighting.
Dani (42:48):
Fighting.
They probably have been havingtheir issues, you know?
And she pulls up and she's like,great, he's fucking here.
Probably
Stephanie (42:57):
intoxicated.
Great.
Took a few too many phentermineand alcohol.
Who the fuck is getting.
Obliterated on phentermine.
What a loser.
Dani (43:08):
Her official cause of death was strangulation and the
knife wounds to her chest,
Stephanie (43:14):
and so everything else was just extra like how
Dani (43:18):
she ping to me.
She was barely alive when Timecut her off her head.
Stephanie (43:26):
I wanna fucking
Dani (43:27):
windmill this bitch like.
He's a big boy too.
He's a big samo boy.
I think he's Simone.
I
Stephanie (43:37):
would like to duct tape oars to my arms and
windmill.
The fuck.
'cause I'm a short person.
Sure.
I would like to make up for thathandicap.
Um, I will train and practicefor it because what in the fuck?
I'd love to bitch slap a personwith a full force.
(43:59):
You become karate
Dani (44:00):
kid with oars.
Let's
Stephanie (44:01):
do it.
Could you imagine the force?
Let's go.
And it would just be vehicular.
Manslaughter.
'cause I could plead down.
I'm in a vehicle.
I'm on a boat.
Oops, sorry.
Oh, these fucking bitches.
Oh, I had to giggle.
'cause this is know it's jokefucking heavy.
It's not joke.
This is so heavy.
(44:22):
It's not a joke, but
Dani (44:22):
fuck.
I just don't You think this islike the heaviest episode that
we've done?
It's one
Stephanie (44:27):
of, yes.
Yeah.
And it's so personal and I thinkthat it's because we know people
been affected as well, wherewe're like,
Dani (44:35):
oh yes, domestic violence, this
Stephanie (44:37):
is why this shit happens, is because of these
fucking.
Broken men, like it is not allmen, a hundred percent.
I will say it a hundred times,but you gotta be a special type
of fucked up man to do this.
And this is, it's not even thatrare is it is a
Dani (44:57):
thing.
So he has 45 years under hisbelt, right?
For Samantha and Jaylen.
But he was also sentenced.
This is in the plea agreement tolife in prison without the
possibility of parole.
Good die rot bitch.
And that's why the 45 yearsreally wasn't,'cause it was,
(45:18):
there's no appeals, there's nonothing good.
So, and the judge knew that whenshe sentenced and the
prosecutors knew that when they,when they pled everything down
to that some of their
Stephanie (45:28):
rulings are symbolic
Dani (45:30):
and Right.
They're just like.
Let's say the heartache.
Mm-hmm.
Of the families.
All the families.
Truly, yes.
Because we've seen these casesdrag on decades.
Literally decades.
And it's like, no, just have himplead life and then he stuck in
fucking jail forever.
Stephanie (45:48):
And I don't ever have to go to another court execute
for
Dani (45:51):
20, 30 years anyway.
Yeah.
Oh, and wait.
That doesn't never happen here.
Even if they try, they fuck itup.
So, um.
Yeah.
Fuck
Stephanie (46:00):
you Time.
Dani (46:02):
How?
Absolutely
Stephanie (46:04):
disgusting.
Dani (46:06):
Well, he's and currently,
Stephanie (46:11):
uh, preach.
I don't like you, but could youpay him a visit?
Do you have any janitor dutiesin this area?
I don't know.
Got
Dani (46:20):
any erasers on you?
Uh.
Time is currently 69 years oldand resides at the Idaho Maximum
Security Institution in Boise,Idaho.
Aw.
And that folks was the tragic,twisted tail of a lofa Time.
The man who turned kidding backwith your ex into a multi felony
(46:45):
disaster.
Yeah.
Honestly, if murder was his lovelanguage, we'd rather stick to
texting red flags and sippingvodka.
Stephanie (46:55):
A hundred percent agree.
And I am curious to know,especially since I was younger
in this, or just, I mean, notpaying attention to news media
sources or updates, like no onehad a smartphone that was giving
them local updates, but Iremember hearing.
(47:16):
Because, I mean, it's such asalacious title of a severed
head came out of the truck on anon-related offense of someone
like they didn't get pulled over'cause they were in a high speed
chase for murder.
They got pulled over becausethey were part of a wreck and
the like, their murder happenedto get exposed in this.
(47:39):
So I remember this, but I was soyoung and not in tune to this
like thing.
I am curious, like people aroundour area, you have to remember
this case and if you haveanything interesting to share or
you knew anyone, let us knowbecause now that I know the
(48:02):
whole story, this is wild shit.
This is, it's
Dani (48:06):
wilder than I could have imagined.
And I am pretty sure, so I justwanna say, I did not say this in
the beginning and I'm, so mysources for this story Yeah.
Were the Idaho Statesmen.
It all was from the statesmenand KTVB.
So, uh, because you have a but,but I am pretty sure,'cause I
tried to find it.
(48:26):
Um, I'm pretty sure there's adateline on this or 2020 I
think, because it was, Icouldn't find it.
'cause I really, where do you
Stephanie (48:33):
get a headline like that?
A severed head pops out of atruck bed on a different charge
because I wanted to get
Dani (48:41):
more, uh.
Yeah, I wanted to get more fromthe families and that's where
you get a lot of those is whenyou get episodes of talk about
Snap or Dateline or anythinglike that.
But I couldn't find it.
I mean, I didn't dig deep, but Iknow I have heard, I'm sure it
probably has it.
Maybe it was another podcastthat I heard it on.
'cause I am a junkie, literallyshout out to y'all stories.
(49:04):
But I didn't listen to anypodcasts to do this.
I mean, it was way back, but I,I tried to find like a dateline
on it and I couldn't, but.
So mine is all fromnewspapers.com.
I just read papers.
Um, so the next time you'rethree margaritas deep and
thinking about unblocking yourtoxic X, maybe don't thumbs
Stephanie (49:24):
down, zero out of 10 stars.
Don't do it.
And you broke up for a reason
Dani (49:30):
instead.
Pour yourself another vodka.
We promise it's safer than anyreunion alofa ever had and toast
to lessons learned withoutneeding a trial transcript.
Ten
Stephanie (49:44):
four rubber ducky.
Dani (49:45):
Join us next week from our crimes, cocktails, and
questionable life choices.
Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
Welcome back to the Lethal Library, where the drinks
are strong, but the decisions ofour killers are not.
Dani (00:38):
Danny,
Stephanie (00:39):
what
Dani (00:39):
do you got for us today?
Today's story is about a Lofateam A, and I'm telling you,
I'm, it's spelled like theclock, TIME, time clock.
Uh.
So if I accidentally do that, myapologies.
Uh, it's Team A, a man whosomehow thought the best way to
(01:03):
work out relationship issues waswith threats, violence, and
eventually unthinkablebrutality.
After marrying Theresa T, thereI go.
After marrying Theresa team a.
I apologize.
Divorcing her six months laterand then re reuniting for some
reason.
(01:23):
Will never understand this lovestory.
Took a nose dive straight intowhore spoiler.
If your idea of resolvingconflict includes a K bar knife
and a suicide note, you're not aromantic.
You're just a walking felony.
Yeah.
Stephanie (01:38):
Um, red flags, were literally shooting across the
sky like fireworks for that.
Dani (01:45):
So grab your drink and buckle up because this story
starts with a bad marriage andends with multiple lives,
shattered, severed, andsentenced.
A Alofa and Theresa Time weremarried in March, 2004.
The couple had been together forabout four and a half years
before they got married.
But just after a few months,they were divorced in October of
(02:09):
2004.
Yeah,
Stephanie (02:10):
six months is extremely fast.
Just'cause you know how long theprocess of both marriage and
divorces.
So,
Dani (02:19):
yikes.
The couple ended up getting backtogether, but they did not
remarry.
And we've seen this, you know,people that have done this.
I, I
Stephanie (02:28):
do know people who have done this.
Dani (02:30):
My parents.
On March 19th, 2006, Alofa Timewas charged with misdemeanor
domestic battery.
He had thrown Theresa on the bedand tried to choke her.
Just five days later, Theresaasked the judge to terminate the
(02:50):
no contact order that prohibitedTime from talking or meeting
with Theresa.
We need to work things out.
And that's hard to do with a nocontact order was written in a
request to the judge.
I just
Stephanie (03:06):
gotta pop in here.
I know you guys have heard ussay it several times, but I
don't think it can ever be saidenough, especially if someone
chokes you.
This doesn't discount any otherforms of domestic violence,
whether it be physical oremotional.
That's all still incrediblyrelevant and.
Please get out.
(03:28):
But if someone is choking orattempting to strangle you, your
odds of the next incident beingyour death are increased.
I don't even know what thestatistic is.
It's probably very, very high.
It is incredibly high.
So that is not even, I can'teven call it a red flag that is
(03:49):
literally a red firework tryingto blast in in your face, and I
know.
It is not easy to leave.
As we can see, she wantedreasons to cut the no contact,
make it work.
But please, if this ev this typeof thing ever happens to you
know how serious thatimplication is and how likely it
(04:15):
is that you could also become astatistic.
You may not, and if you don't,that's wonderful, but it's.
The risk with it has beendocumented.
Dani (04:29):
Absolutely.
But the judge did do something.
Really?
He, yeah.
Theresa was required to attenddomestic violence and safety
planning courses at the ValleyCrisis Center in Nampa before he
would lift the no contact order.
So to help inform, right?
Correct.
(04:49):
Theresa attended five classesand then the judge approved her
request.
So he did, he, it wasn't like,oh, nevermind, she doesn't want
it.
He's like, no.
He tried to do his duediligence.
Yeah, he did.
Do I, I feel like, hey, you needto go take these classes.
And that was good on him.
Um, but Times still has a courtdate for choking Theresa on July
(05:11):
25th of that year because thestate will take it.
So it's not, yeah, it's thewoman.
It's not over versus the man.
Right.
It's the state versus the man.
It's, it's not.
Over at six 30 in the morning onJune 15th, 2006, a Boise police
officer was driving on FranklinRoad to help another officer
Meridian with an accident.
(05:34):
The officer was driving aboutsix to eight car lengths behind
Time's.
2001 Dodge Ram.
As he got closer to Time.
Time drove across the centerlane and straight into the path
of a Nissan Sentra.
What the two vehicles collided.
Stephanie (05:55):
Oh, a big truck versus a Nissan Sentra.
Dani (05:59):
Yeah.
Not good.
The Nissan was smashed and thetruck had flipped over but had
landed back on its wheels.
It was a stunt truck like it.
Mm-hmm.
Like flipped over all the way.
The officer ran over to theNissan to find 36-year-old
Samantha Murphy and her4-year-old daughter Jalen dead.
(06:20):
Oh fuck.
Samantha's 8-year-old daughterSydney was alive and crying for
help in the backseat of thecrumpled car.
A witness to the accident cameover and the officer asked them
to help Sidney while he checkedon the other vehicle involved in
the accident.
(06:40):
The officer approached the truckand seen the occupant.
Was conscious, which you don'twhen you're seeing mm-hmm.
That kind of a traumaticaccident, you
Stephanie (06:49):
don't assume like, no, no.
Dani (06:53):
The officer noticed several broken beer bottles
littered.
The scene
Stephanie (06:59):
that had been tossed around because it was tossed
around a little flip.
Dani (07:05):
He asked Time to get out of the truck.
Time was very excited andstarted talking about how he
killed his girlfriend and thatthere was a severed head in his
truck.
Oh my God, I'm remembering this
Stephanie (07:19):
now.
Ah, I remember this Now.
Dani (07:25):
The officer thought Time was delusional because of the
accident.
Fair?
Stephanie (07:31):
Yeah, because obvi, you would never, you'd be like,
okay, excuse me.
What concussed?
Sure.
Yep.
Super concussed cussed
Dani (07:41):
Time who had blood on his shirt and hands pled for the
officer on the scene to shoothim because he had just murdered
his wife.
Stephanie (07:50):
Which would cause confusion.
'cause you're like, what did yousee your wife and you crashed
into her?
Like is that when you're firstcoming onto a scene, you don't
know what the hell's going on.
I'd be like, excuse me.
Slow,
Dani (08:02):
slow, slow down.
I imagine that a lot of that wasgo like, what is going on?
The fuck are you talking about?
Oh
Stephanie (08:10):
my
Dani (08:11):
God.
Another officer arrived on thescene and followed a trail of
blood left on the road.
At the end of the trail,approximately 30 feet from the
truck was a severed head on theside of the road.
Stephanie (08:25):
And to, to find that and it be true, that would even
be so hard for me to even, like,I'm trying to put myself, I'd be
like, and now we're finding noway, this can't be real, but
Dani (08:39):
also.
Some thoughts to the O.
The officers thought maybe itbelonged to somebody involved in
the accident, right?
Stephanie (08:49):
Because a violent wreck like that, the truck
flipped, two people are dead.
It's not unheard of to see thattype of carnage in a wreck,
Dani (09:01):
especially a big Ram pickup versus a ra.
Yeah.
But after checking the victimsthoroughly, they realized it
didn't belong to anyone on thescene.
Mm.
Can you imagine those officers?
Stephanie (09:17):
Yeah.
'cause I would never believewhen they say he came out of the
truck excited.
First of all, you're like, thisis such an a weird response.
You must have hit your goddamnhead, right?
Mm-hmm.
Like there's.
You, you clearly, whatever yousay it ha, it has got to be just
nonsense.
Dani (09:37):
And then they have
Stephanie (09:38):
to process, oh wait.
Oh shit, we di oh, and you dohave blood on you and you're not
bleeding.
And now we found a head.
That would be very tough for meto process or to even get on
board of like, what if andrealize like, oh shit.
Chaotic.
Dani (09:57):
Oh my god.
Team a age 50 was arrested atthe scene when he was searched.
The arresting officers found asuicide note in his wallet.
It stated he had$300 set asidefor his cremation and he wants
his ashes spread over tablerock.
When they searched the truck,they found another lengthy
(10:20):
suicide note that detailed whyhe killed Theresa.
At the top of his note, he wrotemotive and underlined it.
The note indicated he was tiredof his wife hitting him, calling
him names and making fun of hismanhood.
Okay, police also located a 12inch K bar knife at the scene.
Stephanie (10:46):
Oh, we've heard about a K bar knife recently.
Haven't.
Yeah.
Yeah,
Dani (10:49):
we have.
It's been coberg sheaths,
Stephanie (10:52):
Amazon.
So look up ca to know what styleof knife it is.
Look it up.
What's a K bar knife?
It's,
Dani (11:02):
it's a large hunting yeah.
Style knife.
It's meant for gutting things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Police then went to the couple'shome located in Nampa, where the
officers discovered a gruesomescene.
Theresa Time's body was foundsitting up in the driver's seat
of a car parked in the garage.
Stephanie (11:23):
That is unimaginable, like I'm imagining it, but I'm
just like sitting up a bodywithout a head.
Dani (11:36):
This
Stephanie (11:36):
is
Dani (11:36):
insane.
Yeah, this was, this one's beenon my list since day one.
Um, but it's taken me this longto, and I can see why Theresa
age 46 was born in Samoa, whereshe was raised and educated.
(11:57):
She moved to California in thelate seventies where she raised
her three sons.
In 2000, she moved to Idaho.
Theresa was a support worker fora self-reliance team at the
Idaho Department of Health andWelfare for over two and a half
years.
Theresa's family said how lovingshe was.
She was very helpful and enjoyedentertaining.
(12:20):
Her three sons were ages 11, 16,and 19 at the time of her
murder.
That is terrible.
Their babies still.
Stephanie (12:31):
no, I fucking remember this now.
But it's one of those ones whereI was the age that I would just
hear it secondhand on.
I knew it was a huge deal'causeit was like a months long media
thing that you hear every night.
My, my parents listen to thenews and stuff, but I never,
(12:51):
it's pretty gruesome.
Yeah.
Dani (12:53):
earlier that morning around 5:30 AM Time had called
his sister Rita and told her hehad killed Theresa.
His sister begged him not tokill himself and tried to call
the police.
Barita lived in California.
Stephanie (13:11):
So to get, especially at that time to be like, you
need to transfer me to the Idaho
Dani (13:18):
like and.
Uh, find a number like so fast,the panic.
Rita lived in California, so shetried to reach out to another
brother.
Samati.
He lived in Boise, so Ritathought he could notify the
police.
Yeah, way easier.
but she couldn't reach him, soshe ended up calling Sumits
(13:39):
daughter.
And if I'm saying that namewrong, I apologize.
So the family knew something badwas terrible, and, and I think
if.
I had a sibling call me and saythat they killed their sp I
(14:00):
would probably have a hard timebelieving it.
I probably think it was like amanic break.
Yeah.
And like, you know, and, andyour, your siblings threatening
to kill themselves.
You know, like, wait, wait,wait.
Time is charged with firstdegree murder for the death of
Theresa and second degree murderfor the death of Samantha and
(14:22):
Jaylin, the pa, the people thathe ran into.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Samantha Murphy was 36.
She was driving her girls todaycare the morning she died.
That's just an average fuckingday.
Every day you're doing yourroutine.
(14:43):
She was employed at Baird's drycleaners in Boise and was just
promoted to office manager.
Stephanie (14:49):
I think Baird's is very close to my work.
That's so crazy.
Dani (14:53):
Yeah.
And they're, they're pretty, uh,they might have multiple
Stephanie (14:56):
offices.
Dani (14:56):
Yeah, I do believe that.
They're pretty, um.
Stephanie (15:01):
Well known like Yeah, they're like the dry cleaner of
the area.
Yeah,
Dani (15:05):
they have several locations here.
Samantha was born in Jerome,Idaho, and later her family
moved to the Spokane, Washingtonarea and that's where she
graduated from high school.
She graduated from SpokaneCommunity College.
her three daughters were the joyof her life, and she was a
wonderful mother.
(15:26):
She had just recently relocatedback to the Boise area about a
year before with her twoyoungest girls, Sydney, age
eight, and Jaylen age four.
Her 16-year-old daughter Kayleeremained in the Spokane area.
Fair.
She's like, Uhuh, I'm notleaving high school.
Right.
I don't blame her.
Yeah.
(15:46):
A sixteen's a rough age to bepicking up and starting over.
Mm-hmm.
A couple more years with your,with your friends.
So yeah.
You want that?
Uh, Samantha enjoyed taking hergirls to church and just
recently had picked upcrocheting and she had made some
really cool things for herdaughters and she picked it up
really fast.
So, and her girls were her worldand little Jaylen loved to play
(16:12):
in the water and ride her bike,and she loved Dorothy Explorer.
She was full of laughter andfun.
The picture I saw a picture of,of Samantha and Jaylen, and she
was cutie patooty.
Stephanie (16:29):
And just knowing, like I'm on TikTok a lot, but I
get a lot of those videos oflike just the most ridiculous
car crashes.
And let me just tell you, carcrashes are one of my only fears
in life.
I think that's why I'm such adiligent driver.
Like I commute you and I commutea lot.
(16:49):
Mm-hmm.
And so we see, and I think thatwe, when you've done it for so
many years, you know, to lookout for, someone's gonna pull a
bullshit move here.
Like you know what to look forand just, this is one of those
things that there is nothingthat you could do to prevent it.
(17:12):
No, there's nothing, there's nodefensive driving that you could
likely do when a Dodge Ram wantsto veer into your shit.
He was doing it
Dani (17:21):
on purpose.
Yes,
Stephanie (17:22):
exactly.
Dani (17:23):
It was a suicide mission for him.
And so
Stephanie (17:25):
it's, it's not one of those things where you're like,
even if the light green checkboth sides, which is a great
practice because some people runvery, very, very red lights.
This is not something that youwould normally be looking for.
And even if you were.
Where the fuck would you go?
So that's what pisses me offabout this is this is just as we
(17:47):
said, someone just doing theirregular
Dani (17:49):
and in 2007 Franklin Road looked a lot different than it
does now.
It was almost, it was country.
Stephanie (17:57):
Yes.
Dani (17:57):
Where you're cruising 45, it's better than the freeway.
There's
Stephanie (18:01):
nothing.
Yeah.
Dani (18:02):
Better than the freeway.
Actually, less risk.
You think?
You
Stephanie (18:08):
would think?
Yeah, unless you've got afucking psycho with his wife's
head, ex-wife, whatever youfucking wanna call it in the
trunk on a weird suicide missionwhere not only you can't just
kill yourself, you gotta killother people about it.
I don't understand that.
(18:30):
I think a lot of people havedepression or whatever, and.
But why would you ever hurtsomeone else?
Why?
Dani (18:39):
It just baffles me a little.
FYIT may have been charged inCalifornia 10 years previous for
abusing a spouse in California.
Some of these men, y'all
Stephanie (18:53):
don't like women at all.
They just don't like women.
Dani (19:00):
So in June, Time pled not guilty for the murder of Theresa
prosecutors said, okay, we'regonna seek the death penalty.
Yeah, you wanna do that?
Yeah,
Stephanie (19:12):
let's go.
And how brazen is that?
Yeah, I, you've essentiallyadmitted it.
What the fuck?
Dani (19:20):
I, yeah.
But I do think that, um, uh, ifI was a defendant, I would
immediate, even though I knew, Iwas just like, you always do
that.
Sure.
It's just a natural, likecompulsory, let's go not guilty
and let me figure out my lifefirst.
Yeah.
In August, the autopsy reportfor Theresa came back.
(19:44):
Time had strangled her beforeshe was beheaded.
Think, I mean, can you,
Stephanie (19:51):
yeah.
Yeah.
You don't want that to happenwhen you're alive, but once
again, someone chokes you.
It's a very personal thing.
Absolutely.
And so that's why it's astatistic.
It is not a myth, it's not afantasy.
(20:11):
Statistically, run, get out.
Please find a way out.
Dani (20:18):
Theresa also had stab wounds to her chest, but no
other wounds to her body.
I really feel like, and there's,there's gonna be a little bit
more later in the story.
I.
I really feel like she came homeand she like open, like she
opened her car door and like,'cause there's no defense
(20:39):
wounds.
Yeah.
There was no other wounds.
It, he just stabbed her.
Stephanie (20:44):
That's fucking terrible, dude.
I'm not saying it's, it isrelevant at any point.
It's not like they werejustifiable.
Right?
Dani (20:52):
It's not like they were fighting and this happened.
No, like.
Yeah, fucking awful.
in December of 2006, Time pledguilty to first degree murder to
avoid the death penalty.
Oh.
Which is good because it, whichif
Stephanie (21:07):
you wrote a, here's my thing.
Oh, here we go.
I'm passionate about this.
Mm-hmm.
You wrote a suicide note.
You were supposedly gonna killyourself and kill two innocent
people that have nothing to dowith you and left another child
motherless.
But you don't want the deathpenalty.
To me, it just doesn't compute.
(21:29):
You want it to die so fuckingbad.
We know that prison isn't acakewalk.
It is not fun.
I would not like prison.
So what's the problem with thedeath penalty?
Me personally, I would never doany of this, but I try to put
myself and say to myself.
(21:50):
What would lead me there?
Why would I do it?
What would be my mindset?
And if it was me, why?
If I was willing to kill myself,wrote two notes, I would be
welcoming it.
You're ready to go.
Let's
Dani (22:05):
go then let's go.
Give me some sheets, bro.
Yo, is that too harsh?
I'm sorry.
Stephanie (22:12):
Sorry.
Let's get that firing squad setup.
Find the fucking drugs, which weknow Idaho took years and years
to, to produce maybe some, tofind, they had to find the black
dog.
Some, some.
Somehow you find a will to livein prison, which is so weird to
me.
I don't think that's where I'dfind my will to live of
anywhere.
(22:32):
Mm-hmm.
But now, now we, we just we'rewilling to give up certain
things because we want to livein prison.
It will never make sense to me.
I know that was a tangent.
But I just, I can't likelogically make the dots connect.
Dani (22:55):
And I would just like to say, thank you Harry, for
fucking up our recording.
that my dog.
So you heard a
Stephanie (23:02):
small little dog?
No, you didn't.
Dani (23:04):
No you didn't.
We'll see.
All right.
In 2007, ADA County prosecutorsand Times defense team work on a
plea agreement for the murdersof Samantha and Jaylin.
Prosecutors dropped the twocharges of second degree murder
and recharged him with twocounts of vehicular manslaughter
(23:26):
and one count of aggravated DUI.
Stephanie (23:29):
I don't like that.
I understand you have to giveand take and everything, but
truly that.
If you're willing to drive intosomeone and you know, having a
truck, who's gonna win in thefight.
Right.
You know who's gonna win?
Dani (23:44):
I know Who's gonna lose Yeah.
On my vehicle that I personallydrive every day.
Yeah.
Well, it's metal.
Well, and do you fight?
Do you fight with a semi?
No.
You're never going to win.
Do you know that?
It took me an hour and 15minutes to get home yesterday.
Fuck.
Were you in that bullshit?
I
Stephanie (24:03):
was.
It took me longer.
I didn't take the freewayyesterday because my thing Oh,
because you,
Dani (24:07):
you use your maps.
Yeah.
I don't, I just get on.
So I was on the connector and Iget a phone call from Jared who
never calls me.
Oh.
I was on the phone with mymother.
I'm like, uh, I wasn't evenquite on the connector actually.
I better just pick up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, uh, Jared said a motorcycle.
(24:28):
Oh my God.
Hit the back of some type of aconstruction vehicle.
I've heard that it was, Adamsaid it was a concrete truck.
My mom said it was, but Adam sawthe guy weaving in and out of
traffic.
Yes, yes, yes.
I am so scared of motorcycle.
And I was just saying yesterdaymorning before the accident.
(24:52):
I had three differentmotorcycles weaving in and out
on the freeway, and I'm like,you are going to die.
You're gonna hurt yourself.
And I'm very conscious, I'm veryaware, but I can't be, when
you're weaving in and out of meat 70, you at 70 miles, if
you're going a
Stephanie (25:06):
hundred and everyone else is going 30 and you're
passing people at that, you, youdon't, people don't have time to
accurately judge a lane change.
Dani (25:15):
No.
Stephanie (25:16):
So if you're, anyways, it's just, oh my God.
But
Dani (25:18):
that was back to the big versus small, like.
Unfortunately, you're not goingto win the guy, the guy lived,
Stephanie (25:25):
thank God.
Because usually you don't, moster, you know those tiktoks where
it's like ER people or doctors?
What would you do?
Things I would never do.
Ride a motor.
Motorcycle.
Yeah.
I don't care if you've got yourhelmet and all the gear.
He's like, if I could tell youthe amount of times where
someone's head comes to me in ahelmet and is in perfect
condition, but it's attachedfrom the body.
Dani (25:47):
Yeah.
It doesn't
Stephanie (25:49):
matter.
Yeah.
Dani (25:51):
So it was deliberate and I, but I also, you're going to,
there's gonna be some more inthis story while they're just
like, let's get this done.
And so if there's somesatisfaction,
Stephanie (26:07):
sometimes you have to settle.
Yeah, no, I get it.
And I understand why thishappens.
It's just, it makes, it's notfair.
I, I feel like words matter and.
What you're charged for matters.
And this was not vehicularmanslaughter.
Dani (26:23):
I cannot wait for you to hear what the judge has to say.
Oh, judge, tell me.
So during an arraignment hearingfor the new charges, prosecutors
said that Time was under theinfluence of phentermine when he
slammed his pickup into Samanthaand her kids.
Stephanie (26:40):
Now I gotta turn the table over because any.
Any millennial knows whatphentermine is.
Gen X probably knows too.
extremely popular weight lossdrug.
Little bit kraish, I'm not gonnalie.
I tried it, it helped me loseweight of a little bit, kraish,
(27:01):
a little bit, a sprinkle ofmessiness.
Sure.
Are you, you're
Dani (27:06):
very thirsty.
Stephanie (27:07):
You're very thirsty and, and I think it does have a
propensity for abuse.
Sure.
That.
I'm sure there's people thatabuse it.
Yeah, but that's the reason youplow your huge ass truck into a
Nissan Sentra.
Dani (27:22):
Well, maybe well Time admitted to taking an excessive
amount.
Probably.
Listen, listen how excessive.
And all those beer bottles.
He was probably trying to,
Stephanie (27:36):
he's clean, kill himself.
Dani (27:38):
Clean, which I don't know how much French you mean you'd
have to take to kill yourself?
I probably really a lot.
But then he was drinking beer,obviously.
I mean, I'm assuming those beerbottles were and decided to kill
other people about it.
That's
Stephanie (27:50):
where most suicidal people, they already are very
ashamed of the effects that it'sgonna take on their families.
Yep.
And to, to kill other people init unless they're in a cult or
some type of religious sect orsome type of, or a terrorist
Weird political Yes.
Like a political thing wherethey're like, this is a right.
(28:11):
Wanna be mortar, righteousmartyr.
Mortar martyr.
Sure.
That, that, for the most part,suicidal people would never hurt
another person.
Dani (28:23):
No.
That's not their goal.
No, they're no.
Oh, when the judge asked him whyhe was pleading guilty, he said
he didn't remember causing theaccident, but agreed it was his
fault.
Stephanie (28:39):
Convenient
Dani (28:40):
quote.
I took my medication, drove mycar, and got into an accident,
took my medication asprescribed.
I just wanna say I don't recallwhen, when this happened.
Convenient.
Sure.
And Time bled guilty of thosecharges.
I mean, that's,
Stephanie (28:58):
at least they get something.
Sure.
But I think that we all know,like even if you don't remember
it, you were functioning anddoing things to lead up to this.
You had the foresight to writenotes.
You knew what your purpose was,so fuck off
Dani (29:18):
his sentencing hearing was held in March.
He begs Samantha's family forforgiveness.
Quote, I am consumed with grief.
There are no words I can say.
Your pain is embedded deep in mysoul.
I am deeply sorry.
I hope you find it in your heartto forgive me.
Fourth district Judge Debra Balesentenced Time to 45 years in
(29:42):
prison.
The maximum sentences for allthree charges,
Stephanie (29:46):
thank goodness.
'cause sometimes you can getlike three or four on a
vehicular.
Yeah.
Dani (29:50):
She told Time, he quote, forfeited all rights to be among
free people.
There is no point discussingrehabilitation when it comes,
when, uh, a crime goes this far.
Judge Bale said Time's crimestemmed from uncontrollable rage
and she considered him guilty ofmurder, not manslaughter for
(30:12):
killing Samantha and Jaylen.
Thank you, judge.
Go Judge.
Bail.
Geez.
Yeah, that's why I was, I mean,they agreed on this and I know
that there's reasons and justwe're gonna continue, but I
mean, the judge was like, thiswas.
This was fucking murder.
Yeah.
Everyone knows it.
Sure.
(30:33):
You're fucking murderer.
Nevermind your wife.
Yeah.
But these poor, innocent, uh,this poor, innocent mother and
child
Stephanie (30:43):
that were just on the way to fucking daycare, dude.
Ooh,
Dani (30:48):
Samantha's father, Lloyd Puckett told Time, quote, Mr.
Time.
I want you to look at thesepictures.
Every time I look at you, I feelmy blood pressure go up.
I can't help it, which is so.
That's so real.
Like imagine that happening toyour best friend,
Stephanie (31:09):
sister, your mom.
Dani (31:10):
I, but he was so controlled in saying that
because I've been like, yeah,motherfucker.
But I would and maybe had to
Stephanie (31:18):
have the bailiff escort.
Sure.
Dani (31:20):
Classy Mr.
Puckett.
And I love that last name by theway.
Mm-hmm.
Just'cause Yeah.
I love that last name.
Um, Lloyd stated that he forgavehim for his crimes, even though
their family is still mourningthe loss of his daughter and
granddaughter.
Quote, Jaylen was the sweetestthing.
You have taken her from me.
(31:42):
This is so good.
Lloyd said Time was lucky he wasgoing to prison for life because
he had time to possibly pay forhis sins on earth instead of in
hell quote, don't blow it.
Ooh.
Stephanie (31:58):
I love that.
You know what?
That's probably one of the bestlittle, like, made a
Dani (32:02):
good Lloyd fucking arguments.
You could
Stephanie (32:05):
have
Dani (32:07):
Samantha's stepmother.
Marcy asked why Time didn't picka, a telephone pole or dump
truck if he wanted to killhimself.
Inanimate object.
Sure.
She also spoke of Sydney, who isnow being raised by her
grandparents.
It's
Stephanie (32:22):
a tiny baby.
Dani (32:25):
Marcy says Sydney is played by nightmares and
continues to be devastated bythe loss of her mother and
sister at eight.
Can you not poor?
I will say this, I did do alittle research on her.
Uh, she, I think she was 18.
(32:48):
she was doing very well.
She was a rodeo queen and veryinvolved with her horses and
stuff.
I mean, I'm not saying that thiswasn't a horrible thing, but for
her to overcome that and besuccessful Yeah.
As a child.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kudos, kudos, Sydnee.
I can't imagine no.
(33:09):
Rita Time's sister told thecourt that she and her family
were praying for Samantha andJaylin and the rest of the
victim's family every day.
She said that they appreciatedthat Puckett.
The Puckett's had forgiven herbrother.
The love that I'm just after thehearing was over, both families
(33:30):
exchanged, tearful, embraces inthe hallway of the court.
Because it has messed up all thefamilies.
Yeah.
And for them to, it was verysweet that, um, that they were
like able to reach Yeah.
And not hate and
Stephanie (33:45):
understanding, not
Dani (33:46):
hate each other.
And because yeah.
That's all they had, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Stephanie (33:53):
Ugh.
Dani (33:55):
A few days later, Time was back in court this time for the
sentencing, for the first degreemurder, plea of Theresa.
Theresa's son, Abraham t Lily,sorry, age 17 said, I miss her
every day, and I wish her lifedidn't have to end in such a
(34:16):
brutal way.
This awful man has taken one ofthe most precious gifts in our
lives.
This was his stepdad.
His stepdad.
Oh, so you think about the, soit's someone that he probably
tried to welcome and.
Yeah, they probably, so let'sjust say four and a half year.
(34:36):
Like he probably have known himsince he was like 10 or 11.
And you maybe
Stephanie (34:40):
had some apprehensions at first, but he's
part of your life now.
Yeah.
And knowing that they were incourt and stuff, he had probably
seen some shit.
Oh, absolutely.
Even if it wasn't super seriousshit, he had seen some shit and
then knowing that he escalatedit.
Ooh, it makes me so mad.
(35:01):
But as
Dani (35:02):
a 17-year-old, a young man to go in there and sound just
was very put together.
Mm-hmm.
Because me, at any age be like,you sound of a bitch.
All you can say is fuck you, andfuck you and fuck.
Like truly way to have thesepeople have class.
(35:25):
Yeah, a lot of class anddignity, so, and it's so much
Stephanie (35:31):
to be in a court because public speaking is like
the number one big fear.
Right, right.
And then add in the emotion ofit being regarding your loved
one that you lost.
To be able to talk.
Ooh, it's getting me a little,Ooh,
Dani (35:47):
no, they're very, I mean, they held themselves very well
and the just, they're veryclassy.
'cause at 17 I would've saidthey did it at 30.
I would've said it.
I mean, I just, no.
So, gosh, what gracious peopleseriously, Theresa's sister
(36:07):
Roberta testified that thefamily has decided to forgive.
Quote, we cannot live withbroken hearts in time.
We have to accept these thingshappen to us.
And with tears falling down herface, she stated, quote, I want
him to tell us why.
Why did you do this to mysister?
(36:28):
I
Stephanie (36:29):
fair a hundred percent because completely
unnecessary.
What could lead you, especiallyknowing how.
You completely
Dani (36:39):
ridiculous.
It ended, you fucking chokedher, first of all.
So if he was trying to get outtacourt, murder is not the way to
do that.
'cause he still had that courtdate.
And then
Stephanie (36:49):
to decapitate someone.
Mm-hmm.
You know, they always say like,stabbing is a more personal
thing than like a shooting oranything.
Decap.
I strangling, I feel bad eventalking about it.
But like decapitating someone.
Dani (37:06):
And then putting her head in his
Stephanie (37:09):
truck and just tossing it in there and writing
some notes.
Listen, I don't, I don't knowhow much phentermine
Dani (37:21):
even, even if we're, let's go Walter White blue, our meth
headss don't do this shit.
The way
Stephanie (37:27):
the meth don.
They don't do this.
So, and they're on that purecrystal.
So what the fuck is the problemhere?
Like,
Dani (37:36):
this is a brutal one.
Stuff I told you.
I mean, this is, I, I told stuffearlier, like this is the first,
I mean, I've, I've gottenemotional about other ones.
This is the first one.
Like I had tears running down myface and I told Danny, like,
Stephanie (37:53):
I remember hearing about this case'cause I was
younger when this happened.
And it was all over theheadlines.
'cause it's a very salaciousstory.
I mean, it is a decapitated headcoming out of a, a truck bed, it
sounds like made up too crazy tobe true.
Right?
Like, not even fit for movies.
Right.
(38:13):
So I remember hearing aboutthis, like, you know, you're a
kid.
Yeah.
Par parents are watching thenews.
Anyway, but it was a big dealand now I'm like, oh, this is
the, this is the shit thathappened.
Dani (38:30):
Team A stated during his hearing.
It's not easy to sit here todaybecause I was a part of your
family, and yet I caused thepain that brought you here.
I have no words to express howsorry I am.
He also apologized to his ownfamily for the shame and pain he
(38:51):
brought to them a.
They are so is yes, Theresa'sfamily, but also he drug his
family.
They seem very close, by theway.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And they're in there and, good.
You should feel fucking shameyou Dick.
Stephanie (39:12):
And I'm like, why didn't you feel shame before?
Because it feels like in a lotof these cases, if the suspect.
Would have felt shame forchoking his wife or remote
remorse, or even justembarrassment because some of
these folks act like they don'tknow.
(39:34):
People can see them like, bringback embarrassment.
Bring back a little bit ofshame.
Dani (39:40):
Fuck yeah.
Prosecutor Victoria Bond.
She sounds like a villain.
I love it.
Stephanie (39:47):
Yeah.
Dani (39:48):
Prosecutor Victoria Vaughn said Team A had made a conscious
decision to kill Theresa.
Clearly.
He purchased the knife and wroteletters before the attack.
Oh, Vaughn said quote, he waitedfor her that night.
Neighbors say he sat on thetailgate of his truck singing
(40:08):
that night like he wasintoxicated.
So it
Stephanie (40:11):
wasn't even an argument, which wouldn't excuse
it.
I know we all know this wasn't aheat of the moment, like arguing
over money or whatever.
As you know, most relationshipsdo to wait for someone when
there isn't a trigger.
And someone that's your partner.
(40:32):
And is he the father of any ofthese kids?
Dani (40:34):
No.
Stephanie (40:35):
Okay.
So he's a stepdad, but anyway,he's been a father figure.
Yep.
To sit and wait.
Yep.
For someone to like come homeafter work.
That's what he did.
To do that extreme of an act.
No, never out, please.
Mm-hmm.
Please just never be in societyagain because that is so toxic.
(41:01):
Can you imagine, ah, where youjust think, oh, our relationship
because we've been in toxicrelationships and you think,
man, this whole week we haven'teven fought.
And I don't know if that's thecase, but imagine that it was,
she pulls into
Dani (41:17):
the her
Stephanie (41:17):
driveway.
I haven't got the shit beatoutta me recently.
Well, I told the judge to dropthe restraining order.
We are working on it.
We've talked and some of thesenarcissists.
We've talked about a plan.
They've admitted to this, this,and that.
Everything's going good.
It's a random Tuesday,Wednesday, whatever the fuck day
(41:37):
it is, and someone is waitingfor you with that intention.
That is supposed to be yourpartner.
Disgusting.
Dani (41:48):
You ready to get more disgusted?
Oh my God, I'm not, but let's goPathologist, Dr.
Joseph Kranz testified.
That Theresa was alive when shewas cut twice with a knife in
the upper chest.
The cuts were deep enough toleave abrasions from the knife
(42:09):
handle.
Stephanie (42:13):
Okay.
I don't, I don't even know whatto say to that except just to be
appalled.
Dani (42:19):
She also suffered an internal blunt force trauma
wound on the back of her head asshe struggled in her car.
She was trying to get out of hercar.
Stephanie (42:28):
Yeah, you're kind of in a compromised area, like I'm
trying to imagine this andespecially I think we all are in
like.
Routine mode, pull into thedriveway, grab purse, blah,
blah, blah.
And she probably saw him sittingthere and then, then someone
attacks you that you're like, ofcourse this person can't be
attacking me.
We're not even fighting.
Dani (42:48):
Fighting.
They probably have been havingtheir issues, you know?
And she pulls up and she's like,great, he's fucking here.
Probably
Stephanie (42:57):
intoxicated.
Great.
Took a few too many phentermineand alcohol.
Who the fuck is getting.
Obliterated on phentermine.
What a loser.
Dani (43:08):
Her official cause of death was strangulation and the
knife wounds to her chest,
Stephanie (43:14):
and so everything else was just extra like how
Dani (43:18):
she ping to me.
She was barely alive when Timecut her off her head.
Stephanie (43:26):
I wanna fucking
Dani (43:27):
windmill this bitch like.
He's a big boy too.
He's a big samo boy.
I think he's Simone.
I
Stephanie (43:37):
would like to duct tape oars to my arms and
windmill.
The fuck.
'cause I'm a short person.
Sure.
I would like to make up for thathandicap.
Um, I will train and practicefor it because what in the fuck?
I'd love to bitch slap a personwith a full force.
(43:59):
You become karate
Dani (44:00):
kid with oars.
Let's
Stephanie (44:01):
do it.
Could you imagine the force?
Let's go.
And it would just be vehicular.
Manslaughter.
'cause I could plead down.
I'm in a vehicle.
I'm on a boat.
Oops, sorry.
Oh, these fucking bitches.
Oh, I had to giggle.
'cause this is know it's jokefucking heavy.
It's not joke.
This is so heavy.
(44:22):
It's not a joke, but
Dani (44:22):
fuck.
I just don't You think this islike the heaviest episode that
we've done?
It's one
Stephanie (44:27):
of, yes.
Yeah.
And it's so personal and I thinkthat it's because we know people
been affected as well, wherewe're like,
Dani (44:35):
oh yes, domestic violence, this
Stephanie (44:37):
is why this shit happens, is because of these
fucking.
Broken men, like it is not allmen, a hundred percent.
I will say it a hundred times,but you gotta be a special type
of fucked up man to do this.
And this is, it's not even thatrare is it is a
Dani (44:57):
thing.
So he has 45 years under hisbelt, right?
For Samantha and Jaylen.
But he was also sentenced.
This is in the plea agreement tolife in prison without the
possibility of parole.
Good die rot bitch.
And that's why the 45 yearsreally wasn't,'cause it was,
(45:18):
there's no appeals, there's nonothing good.
So, and the judge knew that whenshe sentenced and the
prosecutors knew that when they,when they pled everything down
to that some of their
Stephanie (45:28):
rulings are symbolic
Dani (45:30):
and Right.
They're just like.
Let's say the heartache.
Mm-hmm.
Of the families.
All the families.
Truly, yes.
Because we've seen these casesdrag on decades.
Literally decades.
And it's like, no, just have himplead life and then he stuck in
fucking jail forever.
Stephanie (45:48):
And I don't ever have to go to another court execute
for
Dani (45:51):
20, 30 years anyway.
Yeah.
Oh, and wait.
That doesn't never happen here.
Even if they try, they fuck itup.
So, um.
Yeah.
Fuck
Stephanie (46:00):
you Time.
Dani (46:02):
How?
Absolutely
Stephanie (46:04):
disgusting.
Dani (46:06):
Well, he's and currently,
Stephanie (46:11):
uh, preach.
I don't like you, but could youpay him a visit?
Do you have any janitor dutiesin this area?
I don't know.
Got
Dani (46:20):
any erasers on you?
Uh.
Time is currently 69 years oldand resides at the Idaho Maximum
Security Institution in Boise,Idaho.
Aw.
And that folks was the tragic,twisted tail of a lofa Time.
The man who turned kidding backwith your ex into a multi felony
(46:45):
disaster.
Yeah.
Honestly, if murder was his lovelanguage, we'd rather stick to
texting red flags and sippingvodka.
Stephanie (46:55):
A hundred percent agree.
And I am curious to know,especially since I was younger
in this, or just, I mean, notpaying attention to news media
sources or updates, like no onehad a smartphone that was giving
them local updates, but Iremember hearing.
(47:16):
Because, I mean, it's such asalacious title of a severed
head came out of the truck on anon-related offense of someone
like they didn't get pulled over'cause they were in a high speed
chase for murder.
They got pulled over becausethey were part of a wreck and
the like, their murder happenedto get exposed in this.
(47:39):
So I remember this, but I was soyoung and not in tune to this
like thing.
I am curious, like people aroundour area, you have to remember
this case and if you haveanything interesting to share or
you knew anyone, let us knowbecause now that I know the
(48:02):
whole story, this is wild shit.
This is, it's
Dani (48:06):
wilder than I could have imagined.
And I am pretty sure, so I justwanna say, I did not say this in
the beginning and I'm, so mysources for this story Yeah.
Were the Idaho Statesmen.
It all was from the statesmenand KTVB.
So, uh, because you have a but,but I am pretty sure,'cause I
tried to find it.
(48:26):
Um, I'm pretty sure there's adateline on this or 2020 I
think, because it was, Icouldn't find it.
'cause I really, where do you
Stephanie (48:33):
get a headline like that?
A severed head pops out of atruck bed on a different charge
because I wanted to get
Dani (48:41):
more, uh.
Yeah, I wanted to get more fromthe families and that's where
you get a lot of those is whenyou get episodes of talk about
Snap or Dateline or anythinglike that.
But I couldn't find it.
I mean, I didn't dig deep, but Iknow I have heard, I'm sure it
probably has it.
Maybe it was another podcastthat I heard it on.
'cause I am a junkie, literallyshout out to y'all stories.
(49:04):
But I didn't listen to anypodcasts to do this.
I mean, it was way back, but I,I tried to find like a dateline
on it and I couldn't, but.
So mine is all fromnewspapers.com.
I just read papers.
Um, so the next time you'rethree margaritas deep and
thinking about unblocking yourtoxic X, maybe don't thumbs
Stephanie (49:24):
down, zero out of 10 stars.
Don't do it.
And you broke up for a reason
Dani (49:30):
instead.
Pour yourself another vodka.
We promise it's safer than anyreunion alofa ever had and toast
to lessons learned withoutneeding a trial transcript.
Ten
Stephanie (49:44):
four rubber ducky.
Dani (49:45):
Join us next week from our crimes, cocktails, and
questionable life choices.
Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
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