33. The Betrayal of Innocence: Jenkins and Ehrlick's Cruelty Unveiled

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Stephanie (00:30):
Welcome back to The Lethal Library.
I am Stephanie.
And I'm Danny, and today we'rehere to tell you another true
crime tale out of Idaho.
So just an FYI guys.
This is one of our first casesinvolving a child or children,
which we typically don't coverjust because it's not really our

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gig.
But, we're in for the ride.
And so Danny, what do we gottoday

Dani (00:57):
on a hot July 9th.
In 2009, 8-year-old RobertManuel vanished from a Boise
apartment complex.
His mom's boyfriend called 9 11, claiming Robert wandered off
around seven 30 that evening.
Within hours, the neighborhoodwas swarming with cops,
helicopters, and volunteers.

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It became one of the largestsearches Boise had ever seen.
Wow.
Tips poured in ponds weredrained.
Police combed through apartmentsand fields for days.
The city was desperate to findRobert alive, but behind this
massive search was a darkerstory, one of abuse,

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dysfunction, and a system thatfailed to protect a little boy
who never stood a chance.
Sources used today are articlesfrom the Idaho Statesmen and
K-I-V-I-T-V.
All right, we're in for it.
Yeah.
So at 10:08 PM on Friday, July24th, 2009, Daniel Ehrlich

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placed a call to nine one one toreport Robert Manuel, age eight
missing.
He tells 9 1 1 that Robert hasbeen missing since around seven
30 that evening from their OakPark Village apartment in Boise,
Idaho.
And just so you have an idea ofwhere this at, the apartment
complex is located off of Vista,less than a half mile from I 84.

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Are you picturing it?

Stephanie (02:33):
I am.

Dani (02:34):
Okay.
Ehrlich reports that he was lastseen on the playground and that
he hasn't been able to find him.
Authorities arrive andimmediately start the search
efforts for the boy right.
And the community is out indroves to look for this little
guy.
By Sunday, approximately 75volunteers came out to search

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for Robert and with no luck,over a hundred volunteers Joined
the search on Monday, which is aweekday Yeah, Boise Police Chief
Michael Masterson said, quote,this is the most important
investigation we have had in along time.
Police have received over 75tips since that Friday evening.

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They even drained a pond in OakPark, but no evidence was found.
And

Stephanie (03:25):
that's, I mean, typically when this happens.
There are, there's so many caseswhere ponds are nearby and a kid
and canals

Dani (03:33):
are notorious here.

Stephanie (03:35):
We have tons of canals and large ones.
Yeah.
My dad worked for the, like,canal irrigation, irrigation
department.
And let me just tell you thatprobably one of the worst
punishments and parents beingdisappointed in me was when me
and my friends.
Were decided we had a canalright in our backyard.

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We could go feed the ducks andeverything, and there's like a
little road that the canal, youknow, irrigation service uses.
so we'd go hang out there andfeed the ducks and one day we
decided we were gonna go wanderand try to cross the canal in
tires, like actual tires thatwere on the bank of the canal.
yeah, that was a bad one.
Okay, let's just say my parentswent ahead and took everyone

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home and went and spoke toeveryone's parents about the
dangers of canals.

Dani (04:22):
They are very, very dangerous.
Kids get

Stephanie (04:24):
found in them all the time, and what a terrible thing
to find a kid in a canal

Dani (04:30):
and, and we live in a high desert here like we, but it's,
there's fields everywhere.
We have a lot of agriculture,but it's due to this complex.
Irrigation system that we have.

Stephanie (04:45):
Yeah.

Dani (04:45):
to bring that mountain, snow, water, all the way down
into the valley.
and they're, they are literallyin people's backyards.
Mm-hmm.
So, and, I remember growing up,they didn't even hardly like
tend to them.
They were all bushy, and youcould literally stroll upon one
and not even know that you weregonna be hitting a canal in a
field.

(05:05):
Right.
Because it was.
And now they spray everything.
No more wild asparagus, uh, dangit.
But, yeah, so they're verydangerous.

Stephanie (05:15):
and so that's one of the first places, absolutely.
That people are looking in theselittle ponds that are in like
neighborhoods and canals.
And, because even at eight, oh,there's some of these, you know,
you think about these

Dani (05:28):
toddlers.
I mean, there's been severaltoddlers over the past few years
that have wandered off and it'shorrific, but.
Even at eight years old, even apond would let alone go canal,
go

Stephanie (05:39):
swimming and get tired like water, dangerous.
So I'm glad that they did drainit, but it sounds like it was
immediate, the response, whichis great to see.

Dani (05:50):
Police spokeswoman.
Lynn Hightower said, quote, thefamily has said that he likes to
sneak around and crawl intolittle places.
He's an inquisitive little kid.
The Idaho National Guardhelicopter searched over the
nearby New York Canal and therailroad tracks.
Police are also interviewingregistered sex offenders in the

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area.
Yek

Stephanie (06:15):
sounds like they were hitting this at all angles,
which is.
Good to see.

Dani (06:20):
Robert lives with his father, Charles Manuel in New
Plymouth full time.
But Robert was on his summerbreak visiting his mother,
Melissa Jenkins.
At the time of hisdisappearance, Jenkins lived,
with her boyfriend, DanielErlich and her other young son,
Aiden, at the apartment complex.

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And Charles had custody ofRobert since January of 2008.

Stephanie (06:46):
Okay.
Jenkin, that's rare in thisarea, in especially in that, in
that time too.
Especially at that time.
It's a default to the mother.
And this is in general.
but especially in that time,unless the mom is like shooting
up at the, in the courthouse,right.
The mom is going to get at least50% custody, if not full.

Dani (07:10):
well, this all came about because Jenkins had been
admitted to the hospital forearly pregnancy complications
and was unable to find care forRobert.
Hmm.
and I think that, that, I justthink his dad was like my
perfect chance.
Yeah.
Oh, you can't tend to him.
Okay.

(07:31):
I'll take him.
Thank you.
Bye.
which good for him, but Jenkinsdoes have visitation rights.
Sure.
the affidavit filed by Charlesat the time said that Jenkins
told him she was being abused byher ex-boyfriend, the father of
the unborn child, and thehospital kept the admission of

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Jenkins, her room number.
A secret because she wasconcerned that the ex-boyfriend
might storm into the hospitaland cause some drama.

Stephanie (08:02):
And hospitals will do that in these type of situations
where they are not even listedthere by name.
They have an alias.
You have to have a secretpassword and have Id sometimes
to check in and it's very muchunder wrap.
So they do this in, in a lot ofdifferent cases when whoever's
in the hospital is in danger ofsomeone coming to them.

Dani (08:25):
And Ehli was by her side the whole time she was in the
hospital tending to her.
So Ehrlich isn't her

Stephanie (08:35):
baby's father that she's carrying at this time?
Correct.
Okay.

Dani (08:42):
Correct.
Okay.
The community is asking why wasthere no Amber alert for Robert?
I dunno if it's a fun fact, butfun fact, the US Department of
Justice has rules regardingissuing an amber alert and I, I

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figured there were some right,but just a child disappearing, I
think that would qualify.
Okay.
But apparently it didn't becauseI know

Stephanie (09:13):
there've been other cases and other like judicial
cases maybe in our state orothers where they're modifying
because.
Something slipped through thecracks because of the,

Dani (09:22):
I just think this would, this would be a reason to send
out an amber alert.
Yeah.
but these, at the time, thesewere the rules.
there has to be a reasonablebelief.
The child was abducted, thechild is in imminent danger of
serious bodily injury or death.
There is enough descriptiveinformation about the victim and

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the abduction that it will behelpful to release it.
And the child has to be 17 oryounger,

Stephanie (09:51):
so they don't know that it's an abduction for sure.
Which, if anyone's gotten Amberalerts, it always has who they
think it is or the car or what.
Like there's always a goodamount of information to be
like.
Look out for these, this car, orlook out for a person that looks
like this with a kid that lookslike this plus this car.

(10:11):
There's always car info.
I didn't even realize that untilyou just said it, but there's
almost always car info

Dani (10:17):
and they have an idea of who.
Yeah.
Had AB objected them.
Them or who object to them, orat least, even if it's a
complete stranger, somebody sawthe child being abducted.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know.
Maybe there should be anotherkind of an alert for just
missing children.
Right.
You name it, Robert.

Stephanie (10:34):
Robert's alert,

Dani (10:35):
like Yeah, because how scary.
I mean, and the possibility ofhim wandering off and getting
hurt.
Yeah.
It's a real thing.
But gosh, I'd want, I still wantpeople looking for him.
Right.
If you don't know who took thekid or if he's just, if he fell
into the canal.

Stephanie (10:55):
Yeah.

Dani (10:55):
You still want people keeping an eye out.

Stephanie (10:58):
Exactly.
No, I a hundred percent agree.

Dani (11:01):
Police said the family is cooperating with authorities.
Tricia Burrell, the familyspokesperson and Robert's aunt
set it at a press conference.
We are a joined family.
At this time in crisis, we areacting as one with one goal in
mind to bring Robert back.
And I'm just, from my reading,I'm ex, I am just telling you,

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Charles dad, I don't think hadthe utmost respect for Jenkins
and vice versa.
And so she's just saying rightnow.
None of that shit.
Letting bygones be bygones.
Yeah, none of that shit matters.
We're here to find Robert, whichis good.
during the investigation, theinvestigators talked to a

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neighbor Kimberly, who wasseven.
She told her parents that shewas playing with Robert that
evening.
She said that she was on thegreen swing and Robert was on
the red one, which is totally a7-year-old thing to say.
Yeah, very descriptive too.
Kimberly said that Robert jumpedoff the swing and played on the
playground motorcycle for alittle bit, and then he headed

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to his mom's apartment.
Kimberly left the playgroundshortly after, and her parents
believed that she came homearound seven 30 that night,

Stephanie (12:21):
and the phone call was at ten oh eight, right?
Correct.

Dani (12:26):
Mm-hmm.
But he did.
Orli did say he, he was unableto locate him from around seven
30 that evening, so it couldhave been, yeah.

Stephanie (12:37):
And according to them, he likes to hide places
and so I guess I, it's easy tolook back and say,

Dani (12:47):
but

Stephanie (12:48):
yeah, still,

Dani (12:49):
I just like that.
I, I, I believe, I don't know ifthat was the right timeline.
But she definitely had enoughdescription in there that that's
something that is said.
Mm-hmm.
I was on this swing and he wason that swing.
You know, I could totally seeher.

Stephanie (13:02):
It's definitely

Dani (13:03):
believable.
Six days after Robert wasmissing.
On July 30th, a forensic teamsearched Jenkins and Erlich's
apartment.
They removed items from the homeand towed a vehicle.
And later that day, CharlesManuel choked back tears at a

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news conference.
He said, quote, my heart goesout to the community for all the
help and support we've receivedto find my lost son.
He was

Stephanie (13:33):
heartbroken.
Well, and seeing people cometogether, like you said, people,
a hundred people were there on aMonday.
people just wanting to try togive their time and help where
they can.

Dani (13:44):
On Friday, July 31st, over 2300 volunteers join in the
search, and police announcedthey have evidence indicating
Robert May have been injured orcould be a victim of a tragic
event.

Stephanie (13:59):
Oh, no, that's not good news.
Yeah.
Especially given the recentsearch.

Dani (14:07):
but the community is coming out in force.
Clearly

Stephanie (14:10):
2300 people.

Dani (14:13):
That's a lot of people.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Police also search the HiddenHollow landfill, looking at the
trash from the Saturday morningtrash run.
Like they're trying.

Stephanie (14:24):
Yeah.
They're exhausting everypossible way they can, it sounds
like.

Dani (14:31):
police search the home of Evan Wallace near Five Mile Road
in Ada County.
Wallace is known by Erlich andJensen and I never got like how
well known they were if theywere like besties or just
friends.
But for some reason that was aninterest, right?
Authorities dug up a portion ofhis backyard after Bloodhounds

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picked, sent at his house.
That's not good, but this iskind of suspicious.
So Wallace said his Chevysuburban.
Was stolen Wednesday, July 22nd,two days before Robert
disappeared, but he found it theMonday after Robert disappeared.

(15:18):
Mm.
Don't be suspicious for sure.
Don't

Stephanie (15:22):
be suspicious.
Don't

Dani (15:23):
be suspicious.
That is very suspicious.
so Five Mile Road.
We all know long.
So I just wanted to kinda giveyou an idea where this is at in
town.
It's at the end of Columbiawhere the only kink in five mile
is.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Yeah.
There's like the little jog, alittle jig jog in that
neighborhood.
Mm-hmm.
That's where it was at, is thatthe jig jog?

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Jig jog on Monday, August 3rd.
So we're like 10 days into this.
Two people were walking alongthe New York Canal in South Ada
County.
When they saw a body floating inthe canal?
No.
An 80 county deputy that was thefirst to arrive on the seam

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jumped into the canal and pulledthe body to the side.
More authorities arrived andthey were able to pull the body
out.
This area of the New Yorkcanal's huge here.
Oh, enormous.
It's, it's like a little miniriver.
This area of the New York Canalis 14 miles downstream from the

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Vista area and the Oak Parkapartments.

Stephanie (16:33):
Oh my gosh.

Dani (16:35):
14 miles.
Yeah, because if you, if youlook at an aerial map, the New
York canal's almost running atsome point, like by the freeway.
Yeah, and their apartmentcomplex was just like a half
mile from the freeway, so it'sright there.

Stephanie (16:56):
14 miles is a long ways.
If you're driving 60 miles anhour, that's 14 minutes at that
speed.

Dani (17:03):
Yeah, that's a long ways.
I was surprised to find out thatthere are no gates or grates
between the apartment complexand where the body was found.
There is a only a single set ofbody gates at Cloverdale, but
the canal company must lowerthem into place manually.

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And what these gates are for isto catch big things.
Yeah.
In the canal,

Stephanie (17:33):
because people throw all kinds of things into canals,
couches, like truly.
Yep.
Mattresses.
dead animals, sometimes smallvehicles, lawnmowers, riding
lawnmowers.
You don't need it anymore.
Just drive it into the canal.
and every year, once the canalsare empty, that's a huge part of

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their work is to go and get allthe, they literally make an
enormous pile, like a mountainof the trash that they get, and
then try to recycle anddistribute or whatever, it is
huge.
Amount of trash,

Dani (18:09):
but I would just think there would be more in a 14 mile
stretch.
Right?
I think that there would be moregates.
I

Stephanie (18:16):
know I wanna ask my dad about this now.
what, what determines where thegates are and why can't they
just push a button?

Dani (18:24):
Oh God, I know they don't do that.
We're still opening S one andthen your,

Stephanie (18:28):
then your irrigation costs are going to go up, and
then everyone's mad.
We can't forward that aroundhere.
We've gotta pay someone to goout there in person.
Yeah.
I'm also

Dani (18:37):
curious why they didn't even think of that.
I mean, half mile away is notfar.

Stephanie (18:42):
No.

Dani (18:43):
Why didn't they think about putting down the gates
just in case?
I mean, they're draining ponds.

Stephanie (18:49):
And then well.
No, I think they should havebecause you will have to clear,
'cause you have to clear BRbrush.
If it's all the weeds and brushare gonna go in there and they
have to go out there with thesefricking big rakes.
It's just part of the jobthough.
Yeah.
If there's a kid missing, let'sgo anyway.
Now I have something to ask mydad about.

Dani (19:09):
three hours later, after the body is found, Jenkins
appeared to be crying as sheleft the Boise Police station.
And on August 5th, the coronerpositively identifies Robert's
body with dental records.
The autopsy showed Robert'sdeath was not an accident.

(19:30):
Mm, and they're beginning ahomicide investigation, not
good.
Robert's funeral was held onSunday, August 10th.
Letters from Robert's father andJenkins were read to the
mourners.
And I'm gonna round up reallyquickly, Charles.

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He was basically like, I'm gonnafind you.
I'm gonna get you.
I love you son.
Yeah.
Kind of like a Batman style.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Yeah.

Stephanie (20:05):
I cannot imagine No,

Dani (20:08):
but Jenkins letter, I'm gonna read to you.
Oh, let's hear it.
I want to tell you I love you,Robert.
I dearly miss you.
My favorite time with you, youwere just lying on the couch,
watching Tom and Jerry watchingyou play on the swings,

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listening to you make sillywraps.
How you could eat ice cream andnot make a mess is still beyond
me.
My memory that I will holdtightly is of you in the ocean.
You were frolicking in the wavesand shrieking with delight when
I called for you, and so mommyhad to hold you and you

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screamed.
So as you go and make yourjourney to a wonderful place in
heaven, I will always rememberyou playing in the ocean
shrieking with such delight andjoy.

Stephanie (21:10):
Hmm.
Uh, no comment so far.

Dani (21:14):
Robert was buried with his grandfather and his half brother
because this isn't the firsttime Charles Manuel has faced
tragedy.

Stephanie (21:27):
Yeah.
What the hell is going on?
You can't even write

Dani (21:29):
this.
You in 1993.
His wife, silky Manuel, during afight and in the heat of passion
stabbed their 4-year-old sonMichael, in the chest.

Stephanie (21:46):
I wanna punch my, I I don't know what to do.

Dani (21:50):
What?
Yeah, who gets what?
I'm really mad I'm gonna killour kid.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Stabbed in the chest.
This is just like.
Heated passion.
No, she's fucking crazy.
she was charged with firstdegree murder, but ended up
pleading guilty to voluntarymanslaughter in Louisiana.

Stephanie (22:14):
Oh

Dani (22:14):
god.
She served 10 years in prisonand was released in 2002.

Stephanie (22:18):
This should not happen.

Dani (22:21):
Who only gets 10 years for killing a kid Your own child.

Stephanie (22:30):
I, I don't even know.

Dani (22:34):
Look, I know men like some crazy women, but this is too
crazy.
That crazy.
Another level.
and to get only 10 years.
Yeah.
It's'cause she was a woman.
I'm, I'm totally judging thisright now.
It's'cause she was a woman.
I don't care.
Or she had to be.
And so many

Stephanie (22:52):
of the voluntary manslaughter things are so
lenient.

Dani (22:56):
Yeah.

Stephanie (22:56):
I cannot believe they couldn't get a second.
Like you couldn't get somethingelse.
10 years is not enough.
It's not taking a child's life.
Your own child's life.
Something's fucking wrong withyou.
If you can do that to someonewho you grew and birthed, and
I'm not even a mother of my ownbiological children.

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If you grew a baby and birthedit and could stab it at what?
4, 4, 4 years old?
A 4-year-old little toddleraround tiny child.
Ooh, oh, I can't, Danny, like 10years.
That's like a tax evasion.

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Like, and I don't give a shitabout people evading their
fucking ta.
I don't give a shit.
I, I do care about people.
Christy's

Dani (23:48):
got worse.

Stephanie (23:50):
Hello?
Hello.
No, that's wild.
And just knowing that Charles.
Already had one of his kids

Dani (24:02):
fucking, and so you know what?
I bet you Robert was even morespecial.
Special to him.
Yeah.
Because he had already lost ason and he got the custody and
you wanna stab a motherfucker.

Stephanie (24:19):
I just wanna shake my microphone violently.
Like, I wonder how much you canhear that.
How good are our shockresistors?
Let's test it.
Oh, okay.
I'm regulating my emotions

Dani (24:34):
regulate.
Okay.

Stephanie (24:36):
Because you're so, if that pissed you off, it makes my
skin prickly.

Dani (24:41):
Oh.
Wait,

Stephanie (24:46):
I don't want to, Danny, I don't wanna even do it
now.
Like this is gonna fucking pissyou up about to call it.
Okay.
Let's go.

Dani (24:53):
On August 18th, an ADA County grand jury indicted
Jenkins and Ehrlich on chargesof first degree murder.
They're also charged withfailing to report a death.

Stephanie (25:09):
So it's becoming very clear what's going on here.

Dani (25:15):
Staff, according to court documents, Robert was beaten
over weeks and it escalated withhis death from Blunt Force
Trauma.
And this is the biggest detailsI'm gonna give you.
There was evidence of, becausewe just don't.

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It's horrible and sad.

Stephanie (25:37):
We, we don't usually get into all the nitty gritty
and the details.
That's just not us.
That's not our podcast.
You won't hear that really onany, unless we just need to
explain what's happening and whyit was important to a case.
So there are probably podcastsout there that have the nitty
gritty.
It's not gonna be us.

Dani (25:56):
Not gonna be us, but there was evidence of blunt, blunt
force trauma to his abdomen andhead hands, knees and fists.
Everywhere.
Everywhere.
These fucking assholes

Stephanie (26:12):
shake your

Dani (26:13):
microphone.
It made me feel better.
Let me tell you about'em.
Let me tell you how Not only didthey fail Robert, but a system
put in place to protect childrenfailed him as well.

Stephanie (26:29):
And we've heard that a few times before.

Dani (26:33):
Daniel Dick Ehrlich.
Age 36 is a 260 pound piece ofshit.
He is a stay at home dad, butrelies on his father for
financial support.
You mean you're a fucking loserwho doesn't wanna fucking work?

(26:55):
Oh, that's a good way to put it.
Okay, thank you.
Erlich's brother David saidtheir father would quote, bail
him out.
So dad was there just trying topick up the pieces for this guy.
I don't want you to rememberthat.
Okay.

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Noted in 1992, early, spent sometime in prison for burglary,
battery and possession of drugparaphernalia.
And in 1998, Ehrlich wassentenced to another four years
in prison.
You fucking Dirtbag.

(27:36):
He has spent nearly seven yearson and off in the Idaho
Correctional facilities and atleast 10 years on probation.
But the motherfucker had dreams.

Stephanie (27:50):
Of what?
Like being a rapper or somethinglike, I'm already that's, I'm
already like, what were thedreams?

Dani (27:58):
Ehrlich wanted to be a wildland firefighter, but that
was not going to happen due tohis drug and legal problems.
He did work as a wildlandfirefighter, as part of a prison
work crew.
Yeah, I was just gonna say, doesthat count as

Stephanie (28:14):
making your career dreams come true?
Maybe for a time And listen.
He, I'm, I'm gonna put in thispoint, and this isn't for
criminals of this caliber, butthere are so many where
prisoners can do firefightingand especially prisoners where
it's like a marijuana possessionof a small amount or everything,

(28:35):
and they go out and do the work.
And they are the reason inCalifornia and a lot of places I
West Coast.
No, I agree.
Mm-hmm.
They are really, it's, it's a.
It's a fuck ass job.
You're dirty as fuck for weeks.
It's a dangerous job.
It's a hard labor job.
But then because of theirrecord, it isn't an option for

(28:56):
them to ever even go intofirefighting.
Mm-hmm.
As a career.
So it's, for me, for criminalsthat are nonviolent, I feel like
they should get some type ofcertificate or training that
fast tracks that this is someonewilling to do the work.
Imagine if you were passionateabout it and you sold some weed
one time when you were 21 andyou can't do it one of the

(29:18):
hardest jobs.
They should let them.
Not really this fucker.
Not this

Dani (29:22):
fucker.
But no.
Um, and I actually know somebodythat, uh, was in prison and did
the firefighter.
He, and he said he loved itbecause you're not in a cell,
like you're out there.
Yeah.
You're like one of the guys youhave.
And he, he said it was reallyhard work.
He said it, you know, he isdrained every day.

(29:42):
Like it kicks your ass becauseit was, I loved it like I was
out there and they do make adifference and it, and it is,
you're caring

Stephanie (29:49):
for your community.
Like maybe we're creating asense of empathy here.
Mm-hmm.
A sense of I want to protect mytown or these towns, or
whatever.
Why would you for nonviolentcriminals not want to help them?
Again?
Is it about rehabilitation ornot?

Dani (30:07):
No.

Stephanie (30:08):
It isn't.
So anyway, just my 2 cents.
Let's change that.

Dani (30:22):
court documents, from 2008 state, Jenkins visitation rights
with her two and a half year olddaughter.
but that, that girl should neverbe left alone with Danny
Ehrlich, which is Ehrlich, butit doesn't say why.

Stephanie (30:39):
Interesting.

Dani (30:42):
Hmm.

Stephanie (30:44):
Why would it not say why?

Dani (30:46):
Well, they're court documents.

Stephanie (30:48):
Sure, sure, sure.
But, and you know, it's, it'senough.
If I was

Dani (30:51):
rich and had a, you know, a forensic journalist out there
pulling all these FOAs for me,we would, we would know, but we
don't.
So leave it at your owndiscretion to think why, but I'm
telling you for.
Some for that to be written incourt documents that he can't be
around a two and a half yearold.
Probably not.
Kind of serious, kind of, kindof a big deal.

(31:13):
Yeah.
Yeah.
but neighbors say that Ehrlichwas a dotting father to Aiden,
which is their baby, not theirbaby, but baby their

Stephanie (31:23):
youngest.

Dani (31:24):
Yes.
The one that he,

Stephanie (31:27):
and I don't know where this is going,'cause Danny
does his, I always come inblind, but.
I am already sensing even beforethis, a lot of times in these
very bad abuse cases likeGabriel Frees, and we even had a
very similar one in Meridian,there is one child that's the

(31:47):
target and even is encouraged bythe other children and is
basically the punching bag, thewhipping boy or girl, and it's
sounding like that.

Dani (32:00):
It and it is a psychological phenomenon.
They don't understand itcompletely, but yeah.
Mm-hmm.
It's a real thing.
Oh, I wish I could remember thename of it, but it is a real
thing.

Stephanie (32:10):
No, and it's, it's with these really bad abuse
cases with multiple children,it's almost always only one.

Dani (32:17):
The neighbor said that, Aiden, remember Erlich was a
full-time dad, and I'm justtelling you full-time, dad, this
fucking cunt didn't have someimportant.
Fucking career.
She was all over the map withher jobs.
She had no career ofconsequence.
She was just work.
So if she was, you know, a, acorporate, gal getting it done

(32:42):
mm-hmm.
And working 60 hours a week andcould afford to pay the bills,
that's not the case here.
He was a lazy fuck, but,

Stephanie (32:50):
and she was slightly less lazy.

Dani (32:52):
Slightly as, sorry, that's my assumption.
She, yeah, she, she went up andgot, went to work a regular job.
She could

Stephanie (32:58):
hold a job more than he could.

Dani (33:01):
That's basically it.
and he was a convicted felon, sothat probably, who cares?
You can still get a job doingthat.
Maybe not the job you want.
You can't be a wild landfirefighter.
You don't have to give up oneverything.
Go mow some

Stephanie (33:13):
lawns.

Dani (33:15):
God.
But he was a dotting father tothe, to that baby.
That wasn't even his, by theway.
And he knew that.
He knew it.
It was no secret that it wasn'this baby.
but the neighbor said he wasalways, the baby was clean and
he was very attentive to thatbaby.
Like, that's great.
I for the, for Aiden?

(33:36):
Yeah, great.
For Aiden.
Was it though?
My God.
so let me just tell you aboutMelissa piece of shit.
Jenkins.
Let's hear it.
She has had several quickrelationships during her 30
years.
She's 30?

(33:57):
Yes.
Flat.
Flat.
33 0.
Okay.
And those relationships resultedin three children, Robert.
A younger half-sister who wastwo and a half time, two and a
half at the time, and youngerbrother Aiden, who is age one.

(34:18):
Jenkins pled guilty to amisdemeanor charge of injury to
a child in October of 2008 dueto an incident that left her
infant son Aiden with afractured skull.
Court documents show thatJenkins did willfully inflict

(34:40):
the wound by striking thechild's head on a surface
causing a fracture to thechild's skull.

Stephanie (34:47):
What in the literal fuck striking a child's head of
that age on a surface?
What are we doing here?
What, what, what,

Dani (35:00):
what, what, what?
So court documents said that,and what, consequences happened
when prosecutors said, when theparents brought Aidan to the
hospital, the child had swellingto the side of his head.
The side of his head was K kindof felt mushy and swollen, and

(35:22):
he was in distress.
X-rays revealed that Aiden had athree to four centimeter
horizontal fracture to the sideof his head.
Neither Ehrlich or Jensen couldprovide a history as to what
would cause that kind of injury.
What could possibly do that?
I don't know.
Jenkins eventually told thepolice that she had been

(35:45):
frustrated and tired because shewas unable to take a nap.

Stephanie (35:51):
That is the hugest red flag.

Dani (36:00):
And, while she was burping the child, she flipped him over
and hit his head on a table.
Let me just tell you this.
The baby was eight months old.
Yeah.
You're not aggressively burpingan eight month old child versus

(36:22):
like, well, and she says, I hitthe head on a table, not

Stephanie (36:26):
like I was burping.
My hand slipped.
I accidentally hit the How, howis this?
Are you throwing the child down?
Like are you, like, did you joltthe child into a hard surface?
No, she

Dani (36:40):
just flipped him over onto what?
Oh.
A doctor that examined the baby,set a great deal of force was
needed to cause the fracture ofthat magnitude.
So a great deal of force.
And we all know that babies

Stephanie (36:56):
have tons more bones than we do.
'cause they're more malleable.
They're growing together,they're fusing together.
So for a great deal of force tobe needed, what in the literal
fuck

Dani (37:06):
is going on

Stephanie (37:07):
here?

Dani (37:08):
After an agreement with prosecutors, she was sentenced
to 29 fucking days of workrelease and fined$75 and 50
cents and was put on probationfor two years.
This is gonna sound callous, butfor

Stephanie (37:24):
only$75 and 50 cents plus 29 days of community
service.
Yeah, you can, you can whackyour baby's head on a, on any

Dani (37:34):
hard surface that you please.
What the fuck?
Yeah, we are moving onStephanie's.
Regulating emotionally.
The prosecutor, Fafa Al Johnny,I probably butchered that.
I know I did, said that she madethe deal with Jenkins because

(37:57):
she didn't have forensicevidence enough to disprove
Jenkins' version of the storybeyond a reasonable doubt, which
I don't know, nobody was gonnatestify against her, what she
did.
Right.
It was her and her buddy, Eli.

(38:17):
Yeah.
The baby can't talk.
Mm-hmm.
Eight month old baby can't say,yeah, this bitch fucking whacked
my dog in.
What the fuck?
The child was still in the careof the Idaho Department of
Health and Welfare untilFebruary of 2009.
Jenkins and Erlich had to workto get the baby back.

(38:40):
They were taking court orderedparenting and anger management
classes.
And earn their custody back instages.
So they earn custody.
They can earn their custody backin stages, and commonly it
starts with supervised visitsaway from their home.
Mm-hmm.
And then supervised visits attheir home, which

Stephanie (39:06):
there are processes in place and there are times and
circumstances where this isappropriate.
My opinion is that it's notappropriate because why are you
whacking a tiny baby's head on ahard surface?
Because you wanna take a nap.

Dani (39:27):
And

Stephanie (39:27):
just

Dani (39:28):
so I Now, if, if you don't want, if you don't wanna be a
mom and listen, I know that this

Stephanie (39:32):
is back further, if you don't wanna parent children,
don't be a parent.

Dani (39:37):
It's totally okay.
And there's, so you can end apregnancy or you can give a
child up for adoption to twowonderful people Yes.
That are just waiting

Stephanie (39:51):
Yes.
To raise a child.
A hundred percent.
And listen, I don't have any ofmy own children.
I, I do have stepchildren and Iview them as, as like part
definitely my family.
I've never wanted to birthchildren though.
And I will say that one of thequestions I get so often is,
what do you think?
If you'll regret it not havingkids.

(40:12):
I think that everyone should askthemselves that question.
What if I regret having my kidshaving, especially if you're a
piece of shit, my decision isnot gonna hurt anyone else.
Right.
People that really regret havingtheir kids.
The likelihood of somethingterrible like this happens
because you're regret

Dani (40:33):
it.
You are not emotionally preparedto parent.
Yes, go live your life.
Don't do

Stephanie (40:39):
the parent thing.
Like it's so much moreconsequences if you regret
having your children.
So if that's the risk I take,

Dani (40:49):
I don't give a fuck.
Well, Ehrlich finished hisclasses first, so the baby was
able to stay overnight with him,but only if Jenkins stayed
somewhere else.

Stephanie (41:04):
This is so fucking weird.

Dani (41:07):
Oh, and just another fact of show.
What a piece of shit she is.
Jenkins met Robert's father,Charles.
While he was dating her sister,Trish, sorry, my brain's having
trouble keeping up.

(41:28):
Trish is the aunt of Robert andalso Jenkins's sister.
So she stole her sister'sboyfriend.
What?
Our lives can't play all her,but still, what's happening here
still?
Who does that?
Who creeps in on their sister'svan?

(41:50):
Some, apparently, apparentlypieces of shit.
Literally the young and therestless was happening right
here in Idaho.

Stephanie (41:58):
So sister's a boyfriend stealing bitch.

Dani (42:01):
Mm-hmm.
But guess who was still therefor the family when Robert was
missing her sister?
She was this family spokeswoman.
Mm-hmm.
The drama on September 3rd,Jenkins and Ehrlich did not
enter a plea at their hearing,and this triggers an automatic,

(42:24):
not guilty plea entered by thejudge.
Automatic default.
Shortly after prosecutorsannounce they will not seek the
death penalty for the pair.
Mm.
Separate trials were requestedbecause Jenkins made
incriminating statements againstEhrlich during the
investigation.
Oh, it wasn't me.

(42:49):
Ehrlich asked for a change ofvenue due to the extensive media
coverage.
You mean the 2300 volunteers?
Yeah.
That were looking for yourmissing, yeah, the whole
community banding together.
Because you said that your sonwas taken from a fucking
playground.
The helicopters, the ponddraining you fucking cock.

(43:11):
earli is represented by defenseattorney Mehin and Cahill.
And if you recall, they've beenrepresented in other, they've
been, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
In other episodes, familiarnames.
March, 2010 LIC filed a motionasking for new attorney.

(43:32):
In the documents filed, he saidhis public defenders quote lied
and misguided me on my case.
Earli is upset because they didnot challenge the grand jury's
findings after a closed hearing.
Everything seemed cleaned up andearly, continued with his
current counsel.

(43:52):
We've seen this before, othercases too.
Yes.
They try to raise a rup.
They're not paying enoughattention to, this isn't about
you, motherfucker.
Well, and you're gonna get whatyou get.
And are you rich?
Oh no you're not.
You are a loser if you have alegitimate complaint.
But when you're dealing with apublic

Stephanie (44:12):
defender, whether you're guilty or innocent,

Dani (44:15):
they only are, and it's better than no attorney.
Mm-hmm.
Because we've seen that shittoo.
Or people that opt to be theirown attorney.
Yeah.
Stop that.
Isha and Cahill were verycapable attorneys.
Mm-hmm.
They were prominent, experiencedpublic defenders here.
Mm-hmm.
So, shut your fucking mouth.
You get what you get and youdon't throw a effect.

(44:37):
Aw.
It was discovered that threetimes a week for a number of
weeks, employees of the IdahoDepartment of Health and Welfare
visited the home of er, LincolnJenkins in June and July of
2009.

(44:58):
While Robert was staying there,there was a court order that
banned Jenkins from living inthe home with baby Aiden due to
his injuries.
This was simply not enforced,and Robert was never inspected
for signs of abuse.

(45:19):
I just have to say.
If the state is saying that aman who is not the biological
father, are they married?
No unmarried, not the biologicalfather, and he's the one that
can see, can be in contact withAiden.
I, I do think, let me just, heassumed he told everybody he was

(45:42):
the father.
The baby had the father's name,so, but he wasn't really right.

Stephanie (45:51):
But I'm, I feel like since, since there was basically
protection for her while she

Dani (45:56):
was pregnant, someone should have known, nobody knew
on paper.
He was the dad though.
I hate this.
All of it.
I told you, be pissed.
Well, Jenkins had been reportedthree times to the health and

(46:18):
welfare department.
The reports are called ChildProtective Referrals, and the
results of those reports wereunsubstantiated, insufficient
evidence or information andreferral.
These reports were made beforehealth and welfare.

(46:41):
Finally did something in 2008after Aiden was hurt.
So the, the fuckery and childabuse started before that baby
was even born, and I'm sure, I'msure

Stephanie (46:55):
that it did it again.
People that are incapable ofbeing around children just don't
fucking do it.

Dani (47:03):
Aiden was placed in the custody of Ehrlich after he
completed the required classes,but Jenkins did not have her
rights restored.
She was allowed to visit thebaby, but not allowed to live at
the apartment with Ehrlich andthe baby.

Stephanie (47:16):
And I'm sure they were living together.
That there the whole time.

Dani (47:20):
I know it.
I know.
It's just how it goes.
The health and welfare workersknew about this order and they
also knew Jenkins was livingthere.
Oh, did they?
They did.
Did they Like fuckingbridesmaids.

Stephanie (47:37):
Oh you do.
Fuck

Dani (47:40):
my life.
Contractors that work withhealth and welfare, that
provided canceling and trainingfor families knew of this order
but could not enforce it.
They're third party.
Yep.
They have no power.
Yep.

Stephanie (47:56):
No matter what they, all they can do is recommend and
advise and clearly the adviceand recommendations weren't
taken.
Miss

Dani (48:04):
anybody home.
Hello?
Knock knock.
During the visits from thehealth and welfare department,
Jenkins and Ehrlich would hideRobert in a closet to prevent
them from seeing bruises on him.

Stephanie (48:22):
Why aren't they asking where this child

Dani (48:24):
is if it's not school hours?
Just weeks before the murder,Jenkins and Ehrlich told social
workers that Robert had beensent home to his father's when
he was actually being hidden inthe home.
Disgusting.
And the department neverfollowed up with Robert's
father.

(48:46):
Get eyes on the child.
Like

Stephanie (48:49):
if you're gonna say, oh, he's at a friend's, he's
spending the night, and ithappens two or three times in a
row.
Great.
Where's the friend?
I just need to get eyes on him.
Yeah.
Just a quick little, how youdoing, Robert?

Dani (49:00):
Jen?
'cause it's a fucking cunt.
You are gonna hear more.
The trial for Eli is set forOctober, but is rescheduled due
to the prosecution, missingdeadlines for turning over
evidence to the defense.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm just including thatbecause, dude, get your fucking
life to get, these people arehorrible.
People turn over the evidence.

(49:21):
Let's go file the procedures.
Like don't fuck around and not,not, not release things.
Because what that cause is whata mistrial or an

Stephanie (49:31):
appeal, hand it over go by the book.
You gotta be by the book or elseyou open

Dani (49:37):
it up for these fuckers.
On January 31st, 2011, Jenkinspleads guilty to aiding and
abetting murder of the seconddegree.
And this is a plea down fromfirst degree murder.
She admitted to the court shefailed to protect Robert from

(49:58):
Ehli and hiding him from familymembers and the Idaho Health and
Welfare Department.
Jenkins said she saw Ehrlich hitRobert with his hands and
aboard.
Robert had told Jenkins thatEhrlich had trigger warning, had
dropped a knee onto Robert'sstomach.

(50:21):
This punishment was called deadbugging.
What?
It's, it's so common.
We have a name for it and that'swhat they called it.
And so, and I've never heardthat before.
It's not like Pile driver whereyou're

Stephanie (50:35):
like, obviously anyone calls it that dead
bugging.

Dani (50:38):
Yeah.
the plea deal is for a 25 yearsentence.
Well, it's better than 29 daysor 10

Stephanie (50:48):
years.
I mean, I guess we're graspingfor straws at this point.

Dani (50:55):
On May 17th, Erlich's trial began in opening
statements.
Prosecutor Jill Longhurst saidRobert spent his final days with
a man who beat and tormented himand a mother that didn't care.
Ugh, sounds I, it's fuckingawful, but real.
She stated, Ehrlich forcedRobert to sleep in a crib, in a

(51:18):
junk room, in the familyapartment, and made him eat food
he hated and hid him with aboard on his buttocks and back.
Ugh.
Robert would often throw up theoatmeal and raisins.
He was forced to eat'cause hedidn't like it.

Stephanie (51:41):
And I think we all know as a kid especially, and I
was not a picky kid, I couldn'tbe, there was one or two things
that I just couldn't do.
And if you're forced to eatthem, it is a traumatic thing.
And what a fucking terrorizingthing to do to, how about

Dani (52:03):
you buy a different fucking flavor and oatmeal, you
fucking dip or feed'em?

Stephanie (52:07):
What are the other kids eating?
He, he, they were purposelyfeeding him foods that he hated.

Dani (52:13):
Yeah.

Stephanie (52:13):
This is intentional.
I don't

Dani (52:14):
like cinnamon raisin oatmeal either, bro.
And if it gimme some applecinnamon, I'm down.
Yeah.
Brown sugar.
I'm down.
I'm not eating that.
Get those fucking raisins outtamy face.
Warm raisins.

Stephanie (52:30):
What?
You're like trying to rehydratea dead grape at that point.
Yeah.

Dani (52:33):
Stop.

Stephanie (52:36):
But yeah, it's, it's sounding a lot like other kids'
cases that we've seen where aadults who are fucking sick in
the head want to be creative infinding ways to harm.
I'm gonna punish you by making achild.

Dani (52:52):
Yeah.

Stephanie (52:54):
Ugh.
Taking out all of theirdisgustingness

Dani (52:58):
on a baby.
Earli could told a health andwelfare caseworker that Robert
was a problem.

Stephanie (53:09):
Mm.

Dani (53:09):
The caseworker gave Ehrlich literature about how to
be a better caretaker since hewas the stay at home prize dad.
But the caseworker becameconcerned when Robert was never
home when he visited and orderedJenkins and Ehrlich to have
Robert home for a session so hecould talk to Robert alone.

(53:29):
And when the time came, the pairtold the caseworker that Robert
had been sent back to hisfather's house in New Plymouth
and nobody checked.
On June 23rd, Ehrlich toldJenkins he had a big blow up
with Robert because he didn'teat his dinner, and the next
morning there was a hole in thesheet Rock of the House and

(53:52):
traces of FAU and it,

Stephanie (53:56):
we hear this again and again when it comes to child
cases where it's not only.
The parents provoking so theycan punish.
Yeah.
They are doing things and havesuch a strict set of rules for
this one kid that basicallythey're looking for any
opportunity to just use this kidas a fucking punching bag.

(54:20):
And that's what this is reallyfucking sounding like.
I'm sorry for all the F words,

Dani (54:26):
but I am not.
Okay.
Defense attorney Cahill saidthis is a lack of proof case.
There is no evidence Daniel didthis trying to humanize the
motherfucker.
There is no confession oreyewitness.
Daniel told anyone who wouldlisten, he didn't do this.

(54:51):
Wow.
And that

Stephanie (54:53):
if someone is telling everyone who will listen that
they didn't do it, that's theticket.

Dani (54:59):
Innocent right away.
Put the stamp on it.
Evidence was presented of a notefound in the home by police a
few days after Robert wasmissing.
And I just, I'm, the reason I'mtelling you this is to visualize
what the sick fucks were, theshow that they were putting on.

(55:22):
So the note stated, quote,Robert, please stay here and
watch tv.
We went looking for you.
We will keep checking in.
Mom and everyone loves you.
We miss you.
Love Mom and daddy Danny,

Stephanie (55:42):
when you dumped him in a canal,

Dani (55:45):
oh, I think this would be an appropriate time to show you
their whiny crying pictures.
Please show me.
So there's Robert.
He's so cute.
I

Stephanie (55:58):
think I remember this now.
Seeing him,

Dani (56:00):
oh.
Okay, murders.
Please look up on Google.
These two fuckers, here they are

Stephanie (56:09):
with find Robert t-shirts on, holding hands in
solidarity.
We're looking for our son

Dani (56:18):
and that's his dad, Charles, and I believe that's
his wife, but I, I'm, it mightbe her sister, I'm not sure.
Oh, I think that's her sister.
aw, crying.
You are so sad.

Stephanie (56:33):
We wish we knew what happened to our son.
Looking up.
Just absolutely broken, puke,fucking cunts.
Dude, please look at it.
And, and we've seen this before.
There's many people who havewent and done interviews for
their missing kids and you feelthe same reaction where you look

(56:53):
at it and you're like, you arejust playing it up and.

Dani (56:59):
Wow.
Writing fake notes to your sonthat are, that you know is dead.
that's why I took snippets ofthose because I was like the
fucking fuckery to put on such afacade.
And how do these people stilllive with themselves?
Robin Ehrlich Ehrlich's niecetestified that their family was

(57:23):
worried about Robert's weightloss in the summer of 2009.
She said, Ehrlich's father.
Daniel Sr.
Offered twice to take Robert tothe doctor.
Children shouldn't be losingweight in a, at an alarming pace
ever.

(57:43):
Ehrlich and Jenkins refuse theoffer saying that Robert was
just vomiting on purpose to getattention'cause that's what kids
do.
Yeah, sure.
Robin also testified that shesaw a bruise on Robert's back.
This is a fail a failure on somany levels.

Stephanie (58:04):
Yeah,

Dani (58:05):
I mean, I, the dad trying to get help, like the boy looks
sick.
Yeah.
Well, I'll take him.
Why is a child looking like askeleton?
And guess what?
With Daddy Earli staying homeand not having a job, I'm pretty
sure they probably qualified forMedicaid.
The bitch could have took herson to the fucking doctor if

(58:26):
there was a reason she didn't

Stephanie (58:29):
because she knew what the problem was.
Whatever she

Dani (58:30):
had early senior was like, who was basically grandpa at
that point, right?
Mm-hmm.
It was like, I'll pay for him togo.
And they're like, oh, no, no.
He's just being a little brat.
You know?
Kids, they like to justprojectile, vomit, vomit, vomit
for attention, not likely.

(58:53):
Robin also said that Rob, Robertwould get in trouble for doing
things like asking for a drinkof water or to go to the
bathroom and that he was alwayson restriction or grounded.

Stephanie (59:04):
Yep.
This is a child that no matterwhat you do, cannot do.
Right.
A, a terrible existence, afucking terrorized existence
that they are literally haveadults that.
Are getting off on being pissedoff because the kid is asking to

(59:25):
go to the bathroom or get water.
They're enjoying

Dani (59:27):
the punishment.

Stephanie (59:28):
Yeah.

Dani (59:29):
It's gross.
A caseworker for Ida, the IdahoDepartment of Health and
Welfare.
Angela Hudson testified that sheobserved Ehrlich tending to
Aiden, but ignoring Robert.
Big surprise.
He felt like the daddy.
'cause

Stephanie (59:48):
he was there before this baby was born.
So he felt like he was thedaddy.

Dani (59:53):
Well, and he had to win him so hard by taking all those
classes.
Yeah.
It was his trophy.
Mm-hmm.
You know that that was fuckingit.
And this is the other

Stephanie (01:00:00):
kid that he never had that infant type of bond with.
He couldn't.
And you know what?
He couldn't pretend that thiswas his kid.

Dani (01:00:07):
And Robert loved his dad.
He didn't need or to be hisdaddy.
And I bet you that pissed himoff.
Oh yeah.
So Angela Hudson, department ofHealth and Welfare, she brought
a game to the house during avisit so that she could observe
the family, interact together,but Erlich refused to play Big

(01:00:30):
Red Flag.
Why?
Yeah.
Quote with Robert Ehrlich reallydidn't have much to do with him.
There just wasn't a strongattachment.
I think that's anunderstatement.
He couldn't even fake it.
No.
That he's like, I'm not playingwith that kid.
Could you imagine even as afriend being like, let's all
play this game.

(01:00:51):
Like, oh no, Robert's here.
No, I refuse.
What?
Jenkins and Ehrlich.
Asked her for advice on how todiscipline Robert, because he
wasn't listening very well.
Yes.
We're just two very responsibleparents just trying to raise
this kid who's such a problem.

(01:01:12):
What do we do?
The caseworker referred them toa parenting program called Love
and Logic, and suggested Erlichand Robert spend more one-on-one
time to help them bond.
Which is a stand away maybelike, I think that's like a
standard.
Yeah.
You know, you're, you're notseeing the full picture.

(01:01:34):
Like No, they just need to getlike their bond going, right?
Mm-hmm.
But also remember there's, thereason that they're there is
because there was an abusedchild.
Yeah.
So let's remember that.
Cracked Noggins and all, in lateJune, Robert was not around
during her visit.
It's once the para said thatRobert was too sick to attend

(01:01:58):
and another time they said hewas outside.
And I've been like, go get him.
Yeah.
Cool.
Let me just get eyes on him.
Husband said she becameconcerned when Jenkins told her
that Robert said he wanted thefamily to be just him and his
mom.
No, Aiden, no Ehrlich.

(01:02:19):
Right.
Okay.
And that triggered Hudson totell Jenkins to make sure that
Robert was at the next visit soshe could talk with him alone.
Jenkins told her this huge redflag.
Jenkins told her Robert wasn'tthe reason she was there.

(01:02:41):
She was there because of Aiden.
Listen, I didn't crack Robert'sskull.
So mind your

business.
I cracked the eight month oldskull.
You see the eighth month old

Dani (01:02:52):
mind, your business.
What a fucking cunt dude.
Hudson questioned why shewouldn't want me to meet with
Robert alone.
Yeah.
What's the deal?
What's the issue?
Says I, I think I, Jenkins backdown, agreed to let Hudson meet
with Robert, but Hudson wouldnever see him again.

(01:03:13):
During the next severalmeetings, Jenkins said Robert
was with Ehrlich at the pool orat the skate park.
He wouldn't even play a gamewith him, dude.

could you imagine being like, Hey, let's play
Connect four, all of us.
I'm not playing No.
That little fuck's here.
I know he didn't say that, butif it was that apparent that he.
Would interact with the, withAiden and not like, why could
you not for show?

(01:03:44):
Because that, that's what, whensome, when CPS is visiting you,
you better get whether you'reguilty or innocent, obviously
you're putting your best footforward.
when you're, if you have alandlord that needs to inspect,
obviously you're not gonna behaving a house party while your
landlord has a scheduled.
Mm-hmm.
You know?

(01:04:05):
So if you can't even play thepart to a simple game, this
isn't like, show me yourparenting skills and what type
of parenting?

Dani (01:04:17):
No.
Just play a game with the kid.
Yeah.
We're just sitting here playingbecause Earli is a fucking bitch
and

you refused.
What the fuck is going on here,Danny?
Yeah.

Dani (01:04:30):
On July 17th, Jenkins sold Hudson that Robert had moved
back to his father's house inNew Plymouth, but nobody
checked.
Hey, pick up the phone.
Just verify the phone.
Just verify.
Three different formergirlfriends testified.
All three said Ehrlich was proneto sudden fits of anger.

(01:04:54):
He was controlling andemotionally abusive.
All three said Ehrlich hadchoked them.
Huge red flag.
We've said it before.
We'll say it

again.
Choking.
Get yourself out of thereimmediately.
You have like a 7 millioncajillion.
I don't even know what thepercentage is.
Does it matter if someone chokesyou, their next step is to kill
you?

Dani (01:05:19):
I think one of the big reasons that.
These women weren't harmedfurther is because the
motherfucker was in and outtajail consistently.
Yeah.
Remember.
So they were able to like, ohbye.
Not have the risk of Yeah.
'cause he was going to fuckingjail.
Yeah.
Consistently

Put the motherfucker in jail.
Y'all do not ever let someone dothat to you without
consequences.
Build up your resources,

Dani (01:05:50):
get out, do what you need to do.
Get out.
a security officer for the OakPark Village Apartments stated
he saw Earli calling out forRobert on the night of his
disappearance.
And he was the one that waslike, dude, why don't you call 9
1 1?
So he said he encourag early tocall the police Maybe.

(01:06:12):
Yeah.
You're out here at 10 o'clock atnight calling for a missing kid.
Don't you think it's, and itstays light here till 10 30 in
the summer.

Yes, we, it does.
But dude,

Dani (01:06:21):
his desk, you've been looking for a kid for over two
hours.
Don't you think it's time tocall the cops?
He's like, it seems like you'reputting on a play right now.
Yeah.

Love the performance.
Great.
No notes.
what do they win at Tony?
Is that for plays?
I don't know,

Dani (01:06:36):
but don't ask me those fucking sophisticated questions,
stuff.
I'm not,

I know the names.
I don't know what they're for,but yes.
A word for you.
Maybe reach out to theauthorities.

Dani (01:06:49):
You have an 8-year-old missing.
I'm about to literally stab mynotebook.
Okay.
Forcefully, several officerstestified that the pair seemed
off for having a missing child.
Oh, Jenkins was stoic andEhrlich was unstable.
This fucking bitch, lemme justtell.

(01:07:10):
He was sweating, agitated, andthen he was angry.
One minute and calm the next.
He's eating at you.
You can't, it's going to destroyyou as it should.
And in one report, I read likeearly, threw himself on the
ground and like threw a tempertantrum.
Fucking

someone get us the footage.
Mm.
Y'all, if you can, if there isfootage, please tag us in it.
You post it.
You post it, take it tag.
Just let us know when you postit.
Find, find the body buddy.
I wanna see this tan becauseit's clear.
This, this man is a, is anactor.

Dani (01:07:53):
Well, the primary investigator that night,
Schlagel said that he wasfrustrated that Jenkins and
Erlich seemed to wanna help withthe investigation.
They wish they could, they wouldnot answer any direct questions.
I wish I could help you.
Ya.
And he said they wouldn't, he,they wouldn't even look him in
the eye.
My kid.
I haven't met the guy.

(01:08:16):
And officers were like,suspicious.
They're like, yeah, they fuckingdid it.
Yeah.
officer Rosson was out on thescene that night and he
testified that Jenkins would notgive him the phone number of her
ex-husband, Frank, who's thebaby daddy of the two and a half
year old.
The girl.
Yeah.
And didn't want her to call hersister or other family members

(01:08:40):
to see if anybody maybe pickedup Robert earlier.
Yeah.
I'm like, Hey, did we, I mean myplans, right?
Like, did we make plans?
Were you supposed to like, pickup?
What is this?
No, don't call my sister.
They, they don't want any press.
They're very famous.
Don't what?
Don't call my sister as a, as amother.

(01:09:00):
That's one of the first phone,my mother, my sister, my
aunties.
What a fucking ding bat.
No, don't call.
And because these people areacting so fucking shady.
Three days after reportingRobert missing police.
Put them under surveillance.
Yeah.
Watch'em.
Because obviously they'refucking weird.

(01:09:23):
You gave off weird vibes.
You fucking psycho.
Don't be fucking weird.
I don't think they could have ifthey tried.
Ehrlich's.
Father Daniel Sr.
Testified that he wasinvestigated for the
disappearance of Robert.
Why?
Because piece of shit Ehrlichsaid his father was involved.

(01:09:49):
Oh.
So not only are they just

denying any involvement, they're actively
pointing to other people thataren't

Dani (01:09:58):
involved, and they know that they, they aren't, but
detectives had Daniel'stimeline.
Thank God.
Thank God for receipts,literally.
Right.
he left the nursing home aftervisiting his wife at 6:30 PM
that night, and then he stoppedat the tobacco connection on

(01:10:21):
State Street.
Been there?
Yep.
Cameras.
Well,

yeah, probably

Dani (01:10:28):
He headed over to Erlich's apartment at 7:00 PM to help his
loser son pay his electric bill.

And this is before he's even missing, right?
Yeah.

Dani (01:10:39):
Yep.
And to help him pay that powerbill.
Daniel said he didn't see Robertwhile he was there.
Nobody had and he was told hewas playing outside.
Receipts and video showed Danielarrived at the WinCo at 7 39 and
he left at 8:08 PM when hearrived home at his home on

(01:11:01):
Bock, a neighbor helped himunload groceries around eight
30.
Daniel then drove his neighbordown to the Maverick store and
then brought her back.
I think he rock.
He's solid alibi.
He's a, he's a good dude.

He's helping many people.
He's helping pay a power bill.
Neighbors are helping him.
He was

Dani (01:11:20):
visiting his wife at the nursing home

and everything that he's doing has a video recede.
Yeah.
So how terrible for your own sonto be like

Dani (01:11:31):
such a piece of shit.
Maybe.
I don't know who, who rememberoffered to take Robert to the
doctor because he was so skinny.
Yeah.
Why is his kid so fuckingskinny?
then he left and went and pickup to pick up his other son,
David, at a friend's house.
And while he was driving, therewas a phone call between Daniel

(01:11:53):
and Ehrlich at 9:08 PM Ehliagain, called his father again
at 9 58 and told him Robert wasmissing.
So I imagine this nine oh eightphone call was just to feel his
dad out.
Like I think he wanted to tellhis dad that something had

(01:12:16):
happened, but he didn't have theballs to do it'cause he's a
pussy bitch and he couldn't doit.
And he was clearly missing at

this time.
Like yeah, he'd been holleringall around the neighborhood.
Yeah.
And you didn't mention it toyour dad.
Not at 9 0 8.
You waited till the 9 58?
Yep.
Interesting.
so you didn't, you didn't tellhim when you've been shouting
around the neighborhood for afew hours, you didn't think to
mention it to your father whowas just there like, since you
left, we found out that thekid's messing.

(01:12:44):
We've been out here screamingfor hours.
No, not until everyone getsinvolved.
Mm-hmm.

Dani (01:12:52):
When he was at Dyer's Trace, because he talked to his
dad, it was 9 58.
And what time did he call thepolice?
Ten oh two.
10 0 8?
Yeah.
So interesting.
I bet Dad said, you better callthe police son.

Yeah, son.
you've been shouting for hours,just like the security guard
told you, like, maybe fuckingcall the police.
Maybe you should be calling

Dani (01:13:12):
the cops.
It's fucking getting dark.
Robert's father Charlestestified that the night that
Robert disappeared, Jenkins hadleft him a voicemail saying
Robert's missing.
Bye.
Robert's missing you fuckingweirdos.
I have to tell you this, lemmejust tell you.

(01:13:33):
So she, Jenkins left work likeat 9 45 or something.
It was, she started work at two30 and left at like 9 45.
and said she had to leavebecause her child was missing.
Meanwhile, I'm gonna tell youthere is, and I didn't write
this all down, uh, well I can 42text messages that day between

(01:13:56):
Jenkins and Ehrlich.
Oh, I'm sure they deleted'em.
So many of them.
But there was a lot ofconversation going on and the
ones that weren't deleted werebasic.
I'm doing okay, love you, blah,blah, blah.
but also a detective ended upfucking deleting some of the
messages.
So that's why I didn't put it ina detective ended up deleting

(01:14:20):
some of the messages.
Mm-hmm.
So they were never like.
By mistake.
Yeah.
but fun fact,

since we're having so much fun here,

Dani (01:14:32):
one of our coworkers hated Jenkins so much that they called
9 1 1 to make sure that I was anactual child missing.
'cause he didn't, or theydidn't, I don't know if it was a
male or female.
didn't believe her when she saidshe had a child missing.
Which red flag, if

you're like, I've never, you've never even talked
about this child.
This is your oldest child.

Dani (01:14:59):
Sure.
Is this some type of hoax?
Wow.
To have a coworker her be like,I'm gonna check this bitch out.
She's lying.

Even people that didn't want anything to do with
her didn't wanna know about her.
Like, something's fucking fishyabout this.
The red flags were red flagging

Dani (01:15:19):
at like a.
they were fireworks in the air.
So to have a coworker think so,less of you.
That'd be like, she doesn't

even

Dani (01:15:29):
have a kid that age.
That'd be like, let me say, mymom's in the hospital.
I need to go.
And, and then they're callingthe hospital to make sure my
mom, I'm like, you really don'tlike me.
Yeah.

Like, we, I wanna get this bitch fired.
No, we're gonna, I need to seesome doctors notes.
I need to see some police reportreceipts,

Dani (01:15:50):
please.
And thank you.
She's like, no, this bitch isweird.
Wow.
Wow.
You, wow.
so Charles and his wife, upongetting that voicemail message
after 10 o'clock at night,right.
They're like, we're coming toBoise to help find Robert.
So Charles and his wife decidedto drive to Boise to help find

(01:16:14):
Robert.
On the trip to Boise.
'cause New Plymouth, that's 45.

Yeah.

Dani (01:16:21):
55 minutes.
Something like that.
I mean, missing child isprobably more 40 minutes, right?
Yeah.
But uh, Charles had calledJenkins twice on the drive to
Boise and she discouraged himfrom coming.
How Do not come here.

Yeah, the kid's gone, but like, go,

Dani (01:16:40):
we got this.
If you could go away though,like, I don't come here.
Don't.
And Charles was fully aware ofwhat happened with baby Aiden.
Oh.
Because he also testified thathe had spoke with health and
welfare about Robert staying forthe extended time with Jenkins.

(01:17:01):
And they reassured him it wasfine.
Oh.

Again, someone trying to do what they can in their
power and it is

Dani (01:17:11):
overlooked.
FBI, agent Jeffrey Blevinstestified Erlich had stopped
four interviews over the sixdays.
Like, get up, walk out.
That's not weird.
It was all, when they werepressuring him about his
timeline.
And you know, when youmotherfuckers lie, you know, you

(01:17:35):
can't remember what you fuckinglied about, especially when
you're throwing yourself on theground like a fucking toddler.
Mm-hmm.
And throwing a fit.
But during that fourthinterview, er told him that he
would come back in the morningand tell him the truth.
Let him know what happened.
That's not weird, but thatdidn't happen.

Of course it didn't.

Dani (01:17:57):
Instead, Ehrlich was hospitalized for a drug overdose
the next day.
Oh no.
He spent more than a week atIntermountain Hospital, but
refused to give urine samples tothe nurse and became agitated
when asked to do so.
Hmm.
But blood tests proved he fate,the overdose.

(01:18:22):
Oh,

I'm just dissociating, actively
dissociating.
I'm so sorry.

Dani (01:18:31):
So everybody was waiting for Jenkins to testify, right.
Even the judge said that theprosecution could compel her to
testify.
Mm.
But she didn't.
Prosecutors and even her owndefense attorney said she was a

(01:18:51):
habitual liar.
Wow.

For a defense attorney to admit that, that's
pretty severe.

Dani (01:18:58):
I think they didn't wanna muddy the waters'cause they felt
like they had a good case andlet's not, who knows what she
was gonna say up there becauseshe's a fucking fat mouth.

Correct.

Dani (01:19:12):
The defense does call three different witnesses, and
they state that they all sawRobert after 7:30 PM that night,
but the prosecution was able topoke holes in their testimony,
and two of the three were underthe age of 18.
Okay.
So basically they hadconflicting stories about the

(01:19:34):
time, their timelines, when theysaw Robert, just somebody in the
waters again.
Yeah.
And they're like, and one gal,that testified was like, I saw
him blah, blah, blah in thestaircase.
And then the prosecutor waslike, you already told us you
were at work at that time.
That kind of stuff.
Yikes.
E.

(01:19:55):
so yeah.
And then, one kid had eventalked to the media.
And had told his story.
And then in court he said adifferent story.
So they were just poke, poke,poking, like, and it's sad'cause
these kids probably really weretrying to do their best and they
might have believed and youknow, and they were subpoenaed

(01:20:16):
to testify and then they go upthere and testify.
Yeah.
They weren't, they weren'trooting for Ehrlich or anything.
They were just, they had to bethere.
Yep.
And then this piece of shittestifies in his own defense.
Brilliant.
Attorney Cahill asked Ehrlichtwice if he had anything to do

(01:20:38):
with Robert's death ordisappearance.
And twice he said no.

Well that does it, folks wrap it up.

Dani (01:20:48):
He told the jury how he was a stay-at-home dad while
Jenkins worked.
He said that Jenkins was thedisciplinarian in the home and
followed her direction.
Oh, and prosecutor slammed himwith questions regarding his
con, his constantly changingstories, like he couldn't keep a

(01:21:11):
timeline straight.
He had lied so many times hedidn't know up from down.
So it takes the jury only threehours to find early guilty of
first degree murder by tortureand aggravated battery.
And I'm telling you, I thinkthis, trial lasted over four

(01:21:35):
weeks and there was a hundredpeople that testified.
Okay, they, he three hours.
Well, he guilty

by torture as we referenced earlier.
We're not gonna get into thenitty gritty details, but, To
have that kind of a conviction.
It's well deserved.

Dani (01:22:00):
So go fuck yourself, Ehrlich.
Yeah.
Do your buddies know what you'vedone?
Jenkins, quick shout out.
Do y'all get podcasts in there?
Let's go.
What they've been like.
Ask'em for their papers.
I told I was, I, I read.
Okay.
I saw on TikTok that that was athing.

(01:22:21):
You can

get what you need to get.

Dani (01:22:22):
Yep.
They're assholes at hissentencing early.
Didn't say a word.
Mm.
Gus Cahill asked that ear beeligible for parole after 10
years.
No.

No.
Thank you.

Dani (01:22:41):
I love this.
Judge.
Are you ready?
Yes.
I'm so ready.

Danny

Dani (01:22:46):
Judge Williamson said society needed protection from
Ehrlich, who had been in troublewith a law since he was 12 years
old.
Judge Williamson said Earli didsubstantial pain to a 50 pound
child during a time when therewas no one there to love him or

(01:23:07):
protect him.
The kind of sentence that mightbe the most appropriate for Mr.
Earli, I can't impose, I can'timpose a sentence that would
require that he endure the deadbug by somebody five times what
he weighs.
I can't impose occasionalaggravated battery on Mr.

(01:23:29):
Ehrlich, or is only once thecourt can impose.
I love that.
Like I just can't have somebodycome beat your fucking ass every
once in a while'cause you won'teat your fucking oatmeal and
raisins.
You fucking bitch.
Unfortunately,

I am

Dani (01:23:48):
unable to

order people to rip your

Dani (01:23:51):
ass to shreds at will fucking her.
The so much best I can do is I'mso, isn't that beautiful?

This is one of the most, and for a judge to put it
in legalese is where it's like,it's very proper.
I just fucking love this shitWhen a judge does this where
they're like, no, it's

Dani (01:24:15):
beautiful.

If I could rip you from asshole to nose hole, I
would.

Dani (01:24:21):
But they do it in a proper Wasn't that so Chef's kiss,
chef's fucking Kiss.
That

was Williams, I think,

Dani (01:24:29):
right?
Williamson.
Judge Williamson.
Judge Williamson, thank you.
And she was a badass.
She's like, Nope, this is thebest I can do.
I wish I

could do more.
Especially this specific thingto you.

Dani (01:24:47):
Oh man.
E was sentenced to life and hecried like a fucking baby when
leaving the courtroom.
Oh no.
Enjoy your life, bitch.
Literally put those tears in myfucking cup.

Cheers.

Dani (01:25:02):
Cheers.
I'm just, wouldn't that beawesome though, if she really
could have like random assbeatings?
My

sentence is that every inmate on your block has
their cells open to yours and noone can see a thing.
So whatever happens happens.

Dani (01:25:19):
Every morning it's Vegas baby.
Yeah, that's what I was gonnasay.
Every morning the biggest,baddest motherfucker on your
block gets to roll some dice,and if he rolls a seven, you're
getting your ass beat.
Thank you.
Wouldn't that be every singlefucking day

till the rest of your life?
I'm sorry guys.
I'm very like,

Dani (01:25:41):
wouldn't that be awesome all over this?
Yeah.
But gosh, in a perfect world,wouldn't it be great.
Anyway, Hui love the judge.
Yes.
And later the same day, Jenkins.
Has her sentencing hearing.
Oh, does she?
Yeah, because she had her littleplea deal.

(01:26:01):
Melissa, how you doing?
Sis?
Jenkins spoke to Charlesdirectly.
I would have wished that if Iwas Charles, I'd be like, no,
thank you.
You're fucking she said quoteChuck.
I pleaded guilty because Ididn't want to put you through
another trial.

(01:26:22):
I know.
All I had to do was ask forhelp.
It's my fault Robert is not withus anymore.
I want to go back, but I can't.
Chuck, please don't blameyourself.
You need to blame me for notprotecting Robert.
I'm going to prison where Ibelong.

I'm not often wordless.
I was there for a split second.
please don't blame.
You didn't need to say that,sis.
No one was you fucking, youthink this is a Hallmark movie?
You're writing a Dear JohnLitter.
Hey, Chuck.
Suck my dick.

(01:27:07):
Sorry.
That was, I've had, I've hadsome outbursts today and

Dani (01:27:12):
this is a case to be outburst.
I'm not a

professional journalist.
I'm just, I hope y'all knewthat.
I'm gonna state it for therecord here.

Dani (01:27:20):
but you're gonna love this judge again.
You're gonna hurt her.
Williams.
What you got for me?
Williamson?
Yes.
Said quote.
You come into this courtroom intears like, you are so sad about
all of this.
I am not buying it.
That you have had all thisremorse.
I just don't think that that issincere.

(01:27:42):
I don't think that you cared.
Parents would die for theirchildren.
Parents who love their childrenwould do that.
Charles Manuel would've donethat for Robert.

Get it.
This, oh, I'm just,

Dani (01:27:58):
I'm, this is what

every case, especially with children needs,
but even of other murder caseswhere they, it's so clean cut
sometimes when you hear thejudge's verdict and you're like,
couldn't you slice a little?

Dani (01:28:13):
Williamson is slicing a lot.
Dicing.
Boom.
So Jenkins had pled guiltythrough a rule two plea
agreement.
That is a special arrangementwith the prosecutors, where
Jenkins agreed to plead guiltyin return for a 25 year prison
sentence.

(01:28:35):
If the judge does not agree tofollow that exact punishment,
the agreement is over and itgoes to trial.
So with that in mind.

Yes.

Dani (01:28:45):
Judge Williamson said, quote, you deserve the world of
punishments for what you allowedto happen to Robert.
The bottom line is, I'd like toimpose a greater sentence than
25 years.
No appeals are allowed underthis agreement.

(01:29:07):
Jenkins will have to serve all25 years without the possibility
of parole.
Still not enough, but I lovewhen a judge does this.
Mm-hmm.
Though, when they're like, Iwould sentence you basically, I
think she would be like sendingsome them to both to death, like
mm-hmm.
If she could.

She literally said, if I could have other inmates
whoop your fucking partner'sass, I'd do it.
Yep.

Dani (01:29:32):
Let's go every

fucking day, bitch.

Dani (01:29:34):
Let's roll the dice.
Williamson, you're that girl.
Alright, so.
In 2012 K-I-V-I-T-V obtainedphone rec recordings of Jenkins
in prison.

Oh

Dani (01:29:51):
God.
The report gave insight to thefirst six weeks that she was in
prison in 12 hours of audio.
Not once did she say she wassorry.
No, she's not.
She did complain that she didnot have a photo of Robert, whom

(01:30:14):
she called Boo.
Why do you want a photo?
You killed that baby.
Yeah.
He did not protect, even if shedidn't do the final blow, she
watched, she knew of the abuseand she hid and she knew that

(01:30:37):
that motherfucker dropped thatbaby in the New York Canal.
She knew she made it possible.
Yeah.
If she wasn't there, it would

not have been possible.

Dani (01:30:51):
She said quote, I play cards and we walk and when we
have rec, we can go outside andlay in the sun if we want to.
We can walk outside, we can playvolleyball, which I do.
We actually get homemade bakedbreads, rolls.

(01:31:15):
The cakes are actually madefresh every day.
It's fun.
I love it.
Oh, do you?

I hope they get podcasts

Dani (01:31:27):
in

prison.
I.

Dani (01:31:32):
Do those ladies know what you've fucking done?
In September of 2012, Jenkinsfiled for a post-conviction
relief.
She said her attorneys RobChastain and Deb Crystal did not
do a good enough job on hercase.
This is how this is.

(01:31:53):
They never did.
No.
Just listen to the, this isverbiage.
This is how she's a fuckingidiot.
They didn't do a good enoughjob.
Jenkins said her attorneys didnot tell her about DNA evidence
that would've exonerated her anddid not present good enough
mitigating evidence during hersentencing.

(01:32:15):
And they also didn't try hardenough to get her case moved to
another county.
Uh, ma'am.
First of all, love your legalease.
Second of all, did you hearthat?
Judge?
Were you in the same room?
And guess what?
'cause he gets to hear thatpost-conviction relief.

(01:32:36):
Oh, our bitch Judge Williamson.
in 2013, Jenkins asked for thepetition to be dropped.
Which, and look, you should havethought about that when you
thought about the judge that wasgonna be looking at your shit
and it wasn't good enough.
That's not legal.

(01:32:56):
That's whatever.
Go fuck it.
You have to have some actualbacking Yeah.
To prove it.
It wasn't good.
You did a.
But not good job.
But she cannot file thispost-conviction relief again.
So you're fucked.
Glad you wasted your fuckingchance, cunt.

Sorry guys.
You know, we swear.
I'm sorry to throw that outthere.
I'm

Dani (01:33:17):
not sorry for this one.
You know, I'm not

okay.
I really am not.
I really, we have, we have someof our followers that are like,
I love listening to this aroundmy kids.
And I'm like, don't though.
No, we don't.
We don't want to, we don't wantthe the c word to be your kids.
Next word.
No.
Take some you time, butsometimes you need some time for
you sis.

Dani (01:33:41):
Um, and yeah, some people actually deserve the C word, and
I can think of bettercandidates.
You earned it sis 2015 early,appeals his conviction.
But the conviction is upheld, gofuck yourself.
Oh goodness.
And in 2025, Ehrlich is 52 andcurrently residing at the Idaho

(01:34:08):
Correctional Institution inOrofino.
He's up North.
Wonder why he's so special.
You know, I love that though,because even if his family
forgave him, all of his family'sdown in the valley, and so he's
so lonely all by himself.
Poor I I do think they do thaton purpose.
Fuck yeah.
I'm in.
I Well, we've had, see, don'tfeel bad.

(01:34:30):
Yeah.
Somebody's inmates shipped outtastate.
I'm like, I love this.
I love this for me because yourfamily's here and you get no
fucking visitors.
I don't know.
Visit with yourself.
Yeah.
I bet you there's some cellies.
I would like to visit you formurdering a fucking child.
Yeah.
Do you guys get any internetaccess?

(01:34:52):
If you wanna subscribe, knowabout your cellmates.
and Jenkins is 46 and living inthe South Idaho Correctional
Institution where Vallow is soonto return.
I wonder if they have the littlecult together.
yeah.
Oh, baby killers, you fuckingassholes.

(01:35:13):
Mm-hmm.
Um, but she does have a releasedate, and that's August, 2034.
Mark your

calendars.
Mm-hmm.

Dani (01:35:25):
And that's how an innocent 8-year-old boy slipped through
every safety net.
We like to pretend actuallyworks.
Robert didn't just fall victimto two garbage humans.
He fell victim to a system thatsaw red flags and somehow still
managed to fuck it up.
Complete fuckery.

(01:35:46):
Daniel Ehrlich will rot inprison for life, and Melissa
Jenkins will be outta jail justin time to ruin everyone's 2034.
You know, I've heard, I don'tknow

for sure, but I have heard of people coming up on
their release date and thingshappen that extend it.
It would be a tragedy, but onlytime will tell.

Dani (01:36:18):
If you take anything away from this, it's this.
Kids need people who willactually do something when they
see a problem and not ignore theobvious.

Yep.

Dani (01:36:32):
A hundred percent.

And there was people that tried, there was, that only
got a glimpse like the grandpa.
Yeah.
He, he did not see this kid allthe time, but he saw enough to
say, why the fuck aren't wetaking this kid to the doctor?
And you know, what's so

Dani (01:36:49):
sad is that, Charles, his dad was like, he loved his mom
so much that, and that's reallywhy he let him go, because he's
like, he loves his mom so muchbecause they're yearning for
that acceptance.
Yeah.
all I can say

is if you don't want kids, don't have kids, because
regretting not having kids is alot better than regretting
having kids and something likethis shit happens.

Dani (01:37:17):
And hey, Ehli Jensen, he shouldn't die.
Bitch, please and thank you.
Enjoy your dinner tonight.
I hope

it's full of rot.
Anyway, thank you for listening.
This was an incrediblytraumatizing episode.

Dani (01:37:36):
Um, ten four rubber ducky.
Fuck yeah.

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