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March 23, 2025 44 mins

Caitlyn Whitmoyer shares her journey from burnout as an educational consultant to becoming a wellness coach and entrepreneur helping educators find freedom and balance through holistic health practices.

• Owner of Hand in Health Wellness, helping educators find their pathway to freedom
• Co-founder of Thread Education, bringing well-being into schools to strengthen culture
• Defines holistic health as multidimensional, addressing spiritual, relational, financial, and vocational wellness
• Experienced severe burnout and health issues that led to her career transformation
• Offers Access Bars therapy, a technique involving gentle touch on 32 points on the cranium
• Teaches mindfulness as simply being present rather than complicated practices
• Prefers "work-life harmony" over "work-life balance"
• Uses cognitive behavioral therapy to help clients build neuroplasticity
• Growing Thread Education to secure district contracts and expand impact
• Working with Reach University to help fast-track education degrees

Connect with Caitlyn on Instagram @Hand.in.health_wellness and @Thread_edu or visit their websites.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Because it's a free technique.
Once you learn where thesepoints are, you can have your
partner do it at home.
You can teach your kids how todo it.
It's a pretty.
If you look it up, there'spretty amazing videos of people
doing this all over the world.
But work-life balance is, Ithink, kind of overrated.
I think people say that andit's so taboo.
Now and then there's this ideathat you really shouldn't have

(00:20):
to work, but like no, you dohave to work.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome back to another episode of the let's Get
Comfy podcast, florida's numberone healthcare entertainment
station.
And and yes, I'm back withanother special guest, miss
caitlyn whitmoyer, owner of handin health wellness and
co-founder and owner of threadeducation, wonderful insight
that she's going to share withus today.
Uh, thank you for joining usand, as I do always, I'm gonna

(01:04):
let her introduce herself, allright.
Uh, she has a great story toshare.
Uh, and I'm so excited to haveher here, traveled all way from
saint pete to be with me on asaturday.
Tell us, tell the audienceabout who you are.
Uh, miss whitmoria, uh and justuh, what do you do in your

(01:25):
companies and organizations?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Thanks, Norman, it's awesome to be here and I'm super
excited to chat with you today.
So I, like you said, right nowI'm the owner of Camden Health
Wellness.
So there I am a wellness coach,primarily for educators and
educational leaders, helpingthem to find their pathway to
freedom.
So a lot of people in educationright now are faced with
decisions about do I stay, do Ileave?

(01:48):
Financial security, and a lotof people are really passionate
about being in education as I am, and I just guide them towards
what that freedom looks like ofnot being stuck and feeling like
we have to do this job.
We get to do this job and Ilove it.
So that's very fulfilling.
That's my, that's my passion,that's more of my full-time work
.
But I'm also, like you said, theco-owner and founder of Thread

(02:11):
Education.
So there we have a similarmission and we are bringing
well-being into schools forteachers, for all staff,
including administration, andhelping weave that into the
fabric of the culture of theirschool.
So we help strengthen schoolculture, we help systems and
organization and things thatimpact well-being and burnout.

(02:32):
We help strengthen those on theadministrative side through
leadership coaching, but we alsowork with staff through
wellness events and workshopsand things like that, so truly
passionate, so passionate aboutwhat I do.
It's such a mouthful to say.
I've kind of gotten used tobeing like these are all the
things that I do and trying tocapture it in a job title.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's hard right, you did it, though.
You put it all together becauseI would have been stumbling
over my words and everything.
So educational, leadership andwellness.
Now I know you take things froma holistic approach and that's
like a wave now, like holistichealth and for the audience and
people may not be familiar withthat, can you define what

(03:13):
holistic health is and what itmeans to you?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, so I like to think of health as multifold,
multidimensional.
There's lots of different waysyou can describe or define
holistic health.
Multifold, multidimensionalthere's lots of different ways
you can describe or defineholistic health.
But for me it's about attendingto not just you know, am I
eating the right foods?
Am I being physically active?
Am I going to the doctor when Ishould?
But am I spiritually healthy?
Are my relationships healthy?
Are my finances healthy?

(03:37):
Are my vocations healthy?
So all these parts ofwell-being that influence really
who we are and how we interactwith the world every day and
that is what I do in both of mybusinesses help bring those
things to the forefront sopeople can really find
authenticity in what they do andlove, essentially for how they
engage in the world.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right, right.
So you went into two businesses.
You said both of yourbusinesses.
Entrepreneurship is hard as itis, and I know this show is a
health care edutainment rightflorida's number one, by the way
, uh.
But I do want to talk about uhentrepreneur.
I'm an entrepreneur myself,just starting out, but that's

(04:16):
hard, a hard thing to do whenyou have two of them.
If you just tell us just thestory behind uh, a hand in
health, wellness, but alsothrough education as well yeah,
okay.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, it's kind of funny because they both started
around the same time.
I was going through this hugelike I call them like cocoon
experiences, where we like goand hibernate and kind of let
parts of us die and then we comeout and we're a little bit new
and renewed in a sense, and Ihad just had this big

(04:50):
realization when I was at I wasstill very much like in a
school-based education position.
I was working as a consultant,very high pressure, high stakes
job, and I just had thisexperience with burnout that led
me to a state of disease andjust complete breakdown.
And it's a huge part of Ineeded it to happen, to birth
what I do now.

(05:10):
But I think at the time that,like crossroads I was at, paused
me to force and think aboutwhat am I contributing in my
life that feels authentic andreal and fulfilling?
And I couldn't say that what Iwas doing felt like all three of
those and nor did I really know.
All three of those were likethe most important thing and
like the thing that wouldsustain me through life of you

(05:33):
know, working in this field andjust being the person.
I feel like I'm meant to beRight.
I know, earlier we talked aboutspirituality a little bit and
you know I'm, I was born andraised Catholic.
Um, I don't identify as Catholicnow and I still have a very
strong sense of spirituality,but that guides a lot of what I
do.
I feel like I have this biggerpurpose and, um, I think we all

(05:55):
have that and um, you know,whatever you call it the
universe, god or higher power um, I truly have learned like the
need to rely on that and letthat be a guide and fill myself
in as things start becomingevident.
And that's called likesurrender right.
So, I got to this point with myhealth where I was so sick and

(06:17):
so frustrated with my work and Ihad no choice but to surrender,
because what else do you do atthat point?
So I took a little bit of asabbatical, I waited tables for
a year and did a yoga teachertraining and just really tried
to find out like more about meand what I was passionate about.
I read, I did tons of researchand I initially considered just

(06:38):
like finding a business or anorganization to work for, that
like was multi-passionate in theway that I am about education,
and I couldn't find it.
And or I couldn't find, youknow, the one that felt like it
would align, like fuel mefinancially and like feel like
the right fit.
So you know, being a projectoror that human design that we

(07:01):
talked about, the projectorsthey see the way and they go and
I just I just went.
I didn't see any other option.
I was like this doesn't exist,it needs to exist, versus like
this doesn't exist, let me gofind something else, right?
So I just stuck with what Ifelt I was being called to and
it's grown into these twobusinesses.
They kind of both started atthe same time when became more

(07:23):
clear, when it became fuzzy,then clear.
And now I just really get toenjoy the work that I do every
day.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Right.
Right, you found your messageright, you found your purpose
and it took a journey.
It took a journey, so does thatthe way you found your journey?
Does that impact your coachingprocess, like when a patient or
a client comes to see you?
How do you, if you can walk usthrough, like like your

(07:52):
personalized coaching processfor any client if they was to
come to Hand in Health?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, that's a loaded question, right Like how does
my journey influence what I doand how do I coach.
So I think you know, startingwith, how my journey influenced
what I do.
It is a reminder that, like inyoga, there's the saying to
always be a beginner when youstep onto your mat, and that's

(08:20):
just the philosophy that everyday is a new day, every you know
.
Every day you wake up like witha new part of your soul,
awakened or part closed off, oryour physical body is different
and changing, and so you have tobring that body to the mat when
you practice.
And I think the beginner'smindset, like when we can be in
that mindset and understand howit feels to be a beginner, how

(08:42):
it feels to feel stuck and notknow where you're going, even
though I'm farther and fartherremoved from it by the day.
I just constantly remind myselfof how that feels and I think
it it helps me coach withempathy and also with intuition,
because I kind of I can senselike where my clients are if,
even if they don't have thewords to say it.

(09:04):
And just naming that andhelping bring that awareness to
light is, I think, part of why Ifind coaching so effective and
what I really like about it,because you can get there fast
If people already come to youwith awareness of, like, what's
going on and they suspect, likeI think it's because of this and
I know I have this deeper woundhere, or even if they haven't
done that, but they can tell mehow they're feeling, like I can

(09:26):
relate with both of thosebecause I've been there, right.
But I don't forget like it'sjust like my fertility journey.
I, you know almost two yearsremoved from the experience of
giving birth, and I don't forgethow hard that was to even be on
that journey and remember whatit was like to not be able to
get pregnant right away and togrow my family when I saw it fit

(09:50):
Right.
So, yeah, I think it's just allabout like remembering how that
beginning feels and always beingable to connect with that
feeling like so much of and I'llstop at the end of the sentence
because I could go on and on,but so much of what I see in
coaching with my new clients isthis disconnection from feeling

(10:13):
and all that like embodimentright you can feel how our body
is presenting in terms ofemotion, and there's a lot of
really cool info and research onthat.
but that's also a big skill thatI have, that I learned myself
to feel and still do.
You're never like once you'rethe teacher of it, you're never
not the student.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
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(11:16):
We like to do an interactiveportion here.
Oh cool, yeah, I got a surprisefor you.
Okay, all right.
So you indicated to me thatyour favorite show was the
Office, right, so I have specialpeople that I know in Hollywood
and they said that they would.

(11:37):
I told them about you and theysaid they would give you a shot
to audition for a new episodecoming up.
All right, so if you could,they're gonna watch this show oh
my gosh if you will participatehere.
We have a part here that we'regonna do an audition here, all
right, so I hope you're readyI'm ready.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I was, all right, born already, all right so
here's All right.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
So here's the setting , all right.
Here's the.
It says we are in the office,in the break room.
Kelly is sitting in the breakat the break room table.
So you're, kelly, scrollingthrough her phone.
I'm Jim.
Jim walks in holding a bowl ofcereal.
He pauses when he sees herlooking upset.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
So I'm more concerned about the fact.
Have you seen the Office?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
No.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Okay, I'm more concerned for you than me,
honestly.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Really yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
You're going to butcher this.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm going to butcher this so you know this scene
right here.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yes, I love the Office.
It's like one of my favoriteshows dang, I do watch the
office.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
You know, I watch the office.
I'm lying, I don't watch theoffice, but okay so okay, I got
it well, you tell me, what doyou judge me then, after I do
this?
All right.
All right, so you tell it goahead okay, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
So I start.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
It says no, I start.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, hey, everything's okay no, my life is
like a mess right now.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Oh, it's hard to hear that what's going on?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I just found out that brad pitt is single again, and
I'm like here in scranton that'srough.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
You're basically two missed flights away from destiny
exactly?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
and do you know what r Ryan said when I told him?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Let's guess cool.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Worse.
He said Brad Pitt's probablynot into reality TV.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, that sounds like Ryan.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Do you think he's right?
Should I start like readingbooks or something?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, maybe just one.
Like they say, you've done it.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
But books are so long .
Do they have like a TikTokversion of Shakespeare?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
You mean a summary?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yes, that's what I need A summary.
You're so smart, Jen.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Just another day helping Kelly with her Brad Pitt
strategy.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay, I'm starting with Romeo and Juliet.
It's like a love story, right?
Brad would love that.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Just walks out shaking his head.
That's the scene Cut.
So how do you?
I guess you gotta do it.
How do I do?
Well, was I Jim?
No, I was terrible, you weren'tJim.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
You weren't his character.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
How's his character?
Well, was I.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Jim.
No, I was terrible.
You weren't Jim, you weren'this character.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
How's his character, jim?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
is like a little awkward and it's what's his name
?
John Krasick or whatever.
That's the actor's name.
Do you know him?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Not at all, he plays like a lot of movies.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Look him up.
You would know if it look atmore I'll look at more.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'm good with faces too, so, yeah, I'll have to look
at more yeah thanks, I'd be aterror.
What you'll grade me like froma to l okay, so not knowing the
character yeah that's a big partof it that's a big part.
I should look it up.
I'm a bad host, it'll all good.
I might have to cut this out.
No, honestly, no activity wasso fun, okay, oh yeah, I know
we'll do right there, okay.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, that was so fun , I loved.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh yeah, I know what we'll do right now.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
That was so fun.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I loved doing that.
Don't cut it out.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
So the office, please have look up on Ms Caitlin
Whitmoyer.
All right, we're going backinto the show.
All right, so we're going intohand and health wellness.
We want to get into some ofyour techniques and programs
that you offer.
Yes, and one interesting one isAccess Bars.
It's one of the techniques youuse.

(15:28):
Can you explain that techniqueand how it benefits your clients
?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yes, so Access Bars is a I call it an assistive
meditation technique and it iswhen you are laying on a gravity
chair or massage table and I'mjust placing gentle touch points
over 32 different places onyour cranium and these points
are associated with differentparts of our brain where we

(15:54):
actually store thoughts, beliefs, ideas, feelings in 32
different primal emotions thatwe are wired for.
Essentially, every emotioncomes from love or fear, but a
lot of times we're wired for thefear-based ones.
It doesn't mean that that's allI'm touching, like.
I touch points of joy andcreativity and creating
connections, but also pointslike fear and sadness and

(16:17):
control.
So it's a crazy effectivetherapy.
I have seen just things frompeople having very deep, rich
meditation experiences wherethey're seeing colors and
visions even and those arepeople typically who already
have a strong meditationpractice in place.

(16:39):
But I also see things likepeople who just come because
they're looking for, you know,that solution, that something to
try to cure or heal.
You know the thought that keepsreoccurring or the situation
that they can't get over, or theanxiety, and it just allows the
brain to get into thisparasympathetic mode, which is

(16:59):
the mode that we call rest anddigest, and we're really able to
slow the brain waves.
And when we do that and we'reat the same time pressing on
these points, it stimulates arelease response.
So these thoughts, feelings,ideas that we hold, just by
touching those and getting thebody in a state of calm, we can
let those go.
And so people get up from youknow, the chair, and it's not

(17:21):
like right away.
They're like, yeah, all of asudden, don't worry about these
things, it's within the nextweek.
I get messages like no, I'vefelt really light this week and
I haven't done anythingdifferent, but like I'm sleeping
better and just things feelbetter, I'm communicating better
, and just all these crazytestimonies of what it does in
their life.
So it's truly like a beautifultherapy, wow.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
And so this is touching your head right.
Wow, I can see that's beingvery relaxing too.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yep, we do it with schools, with teachers.
We offer it as a workshopbecause it's a free technique.
Once you learn where thesepoints are, you can have your
partner do it at home.
You can teach your kids how todo it.
It's a pretty if you, if youlook it up, there's pretty
amazing videos of people doingthis all over the world.
But yeah, it's, it's somethingunlike anything else I've ever

(18:11):
experienced.
And we do it with schools, wedo it with teachers, and one
time we were hosting a workshopand the principal was the one
receiving his bars and heactually fell asleep after like
three minutes, I think it was,and he was snoring and we just
were laughing because you knowit's clearly what he needed.
But it was great, it was such afun.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's how I like me.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
It was such a fun work.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, so mindfulness is a big part of you know your
process, part of you know yourprocess, and so how give us some
of your techniques in regardsto your mindfulness and how does
it reduce stress overall?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
So let's get on the same page, I think, when we talk
about that word right.
Because mindfulness, you know,I think a lot of us think, who
are far disconnected from thatword or don't practice it, think
it means, you know, sitting inlotus, pose and yoga and you
know, waiting for a spirit tospeak to you or whatever, and
really mindfulness is just aboutthe idea of presence.

(19:13):
So it's, you can be mindful.
We're being mindful right nowbecause we're present and
engaged and involved in thisconversation and we're not
thinking about anything else,past or future, and that's what
mindfulness means to me.
So, with my clients, I alwaystry to start by having them,
when they walk in the door, inthe virtual door, just recognize
that embodied feeling of whatare they noticing?

(19:33):
Are their shoulders tight, youknow?
Do they feel like their mind isracy?
Do they feel tired?
Why could that be Just reallyexploring that mind body
connection and thenstrengthening that through
different exercises that arerooted in building awareness.
So that's when I coach, that'susually the first chunk of what

(19:54):
I do with people is strengthenthat awareness, because once you
have that, it's game over, youcan do, do anything.
It's what you choose to do withthe awareness right, right.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Have you ever looked into like partnering with any
different like assisted livingfacilities are seeing living
communities like to do differentsessions like that, whether
it's meditation or yoga or evenindependent living, where people
maybe still can get around ontheir own to participate like
that?
You know where people may stillcan get around on their own to
participate like that you know?

(20:24):
Or look at it from a businessavenue as well.
Like they still pay you to come.
You know what I mean.
I don't know that, just poppedin my head right now because I
think they could really benefitfrom.
You know some of the agingadults to be able to join that,
whether it's a session.
You go and do that once a month.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I just thought about it like this yeah, you're so
right.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
There is definitely a niche.
I have a client who's 63, andthere's definitely a niche of
people who are, you know, thosecouple generations older that
are seeking all of a sudden likethis is trending everywhere to
slow down, to be present, toenjoy life.
It's they don't, you know,often know how to do that
because they're not used to that.
That's not the life they livedup to retirement and they don't

(21:07):
know what to do in retirement.
I see this with my own parentsand they want to have peace and
joy, but they don't know how toget there.
So that's definitely a greatpoint.
I actually used to do hospicevisits.
I would do like visits withpeople who were actually used to
do hospice visits.
I would do like visits withpeople who were nonverbal or you

(21:27):
know, in like a comatose stateand you know, just sit, talk,
and I loved it.
It was so fulfilling just to beable to go and spend that hour.
I haven't done that in a while.
So that's.
Thank you for bringing that up,yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
That is really good, even families and their that up.
Yeah, yeah, that is really good, even families and they're
they're, uh, the caregivers orfamilies that are having someone
that is on hospice, that can bea great, a great avenue, uh,
for for you as well.
Yeah, uh, just relief, like that, you know, because mindfulness
I had to like research it aswell, and mindfulness it just,
but it's, it's deeper, you know,it really is, and even with

(21:59):
meditation, doing it the properway, it's, it sounds simple, but
to understand the true value ofit is is really understanding.
Like just watching yourinstagram, like I was like you
know what, maybe I should trythis, like you do it everywhere
too.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Outside I'm like man, I sweat too easy and I one
thing that really it's a petpeeve of mine to see us
overcomplicating and glamorizingmeditation Like it is this
thing that you have to do andlook pretty doing or and be
perfect at doing.
And it's not about that.
It's just like prayer or anyform of sitting and pausing and,

(22:36):
you know, receiving or whateverthat time looks like for you,
and receiving or whatever thattime looks like for you.
So I personally will never notbe the person that's like no,
this is actually simple.
I have a deep reverence for itand I hope to grow in it.
I mean, I'm almost 32.
I definitely have a lot tolearn, but I will always keep
that accessibility piece at thefront.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
You do I can't say that too Watching your social
media.
You don't mind where you do itat Like, and you make it very
accessible and just showingpeople that, hey, it is okay to
do it wherever you want to do itat.
And just speaking on that.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Okay, on November 21st you shared an interesting
story on IG Instagram.
The topic of your story wasabout how you were told you
couldn't have work get pregnantbecause your job as an
educational consultant.

(23:32):
Can you share this journey oftriumph with the audience?
I was like that's prettyinteresting because I never
heard of a situation like that.
So if you can, share like uhand I know that's a little
transitioning, but I wanted tohear that story For sure.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, so, um, the consulting job that I was in the
last um couple of years that Iwas in a school-based position,
like I mentioned earlier, it wasvery high stakes, it was
extremely high stress and it ledme to a state of disease.
So that particular health issuethat I dealt with at the time,

(24:13):
one of the kind of side effectsor cascade effects from that was
just my cycle being disruptedand my hormone levels were not
stable, and so I was essentiallyjust given the fast track
option to go get IVF, because Ithink that's what we tell a lot
of women these days that have ahard time trying to conceive,

(24:35):
instead of helping them, youknow, heal and support the whole
body, which is the route I took.
I think Wyatt took two years,but at that point was the point
of that whole post was to say,like you know, I was making my
job, the reason that I couldn'thave the fertility success.

(24:55):
And you know, my doctor wastelling me all of these things
because of the choices I made tobe in that job and to be on
that career track that I was onand, um, it was, like I
mentioned earlier, just areckoning.
Um, it led me to a place ofdeep self-discovery and, um,
just raw vulnerability andhonesty and having to face a lot

(25:18):
of things that my whole life Ihad just believed I would be and
I no longer was going to bethose things.
And that was hard because Ikept fighting myself to like,
just do the thing that you knowI was raised to do, which was,
like you know, stay in thestable job.
You know, get your 401k and allof that.
Like you know, just time thingsout in the way that it was

(25:42):
expected of me to do.
So, when I went off that pathand you know it started with my
yoga teacher training and then I, you know, started the thread
and the other business, like Isaid earlier, they were like
fuzzy and then they came intofocus.
They were all starting and Ithink I saw people around me and
be like, what are you doing?
You know, like, um, how is thisgoing to turn out?

(26:06):
And like, are you making money?
And that was a huge.
People would always ask like,how are you making money and how
are you getting through this?
And I'm like money is aresource and I'm fine
financially with resources beingreallocated at times to do what
needs to happen, like for me tobe able to live a life and my
family's be able to live a lifethat we love, so didn't take

(26:26):
vacations for a while.
We're very frugal and that'sfine, figured it out and like
we're still figuring it out.
But I would never go the otherway of just conforming because
that was the other option.
Right, you struggle for alittle bit and just figure it
out, or do you conform?
And, um, you know, I even Ijust went home for Christmas.
My parents are asking me abouthow are things going financially

(26:49):
and I'm like great, honestly,do y'all need any help?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Because we're good over here.
So, with that being said, uh,what advice would you give
someone that's stuck in theirpersonal or professional life?
Uh, to get out of that rut.
What would you give someonethat's stuck in their personal
or professional life to get outof that rut?
What would you say?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, I would just have them understand that they
have a choice, like, do youunderstand that you're making a
choice by saying yes to beinghere or by only looking at this
opportunity?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And just if you can come to that, you know that
thought and believe that yesthat really helps because I know
for me, one thing I strugglewith is the best understanding
that work-life balance.
People always talk about work,life balance, work-life balance,

(27:38):
work-life balance.
When you're trying to besuccessful, it's like it can
drive you and it bleeds over.
How do you really balance likeunderstanding work and still be
successful in your job?
That's so demanding, and Ithink a lot of corporate leaders
and people that are, you know,running their own businesses and
owners, and maybe even yourselfsometimes.

(27:59):
How do you balance your life?

Speaker 1 (28:02):
yeah, I was reminded, as you were asking that
question, that I think the firsttime we talked, I think we were
both in our cars like on on avideo call yeah and you know,
honestly, to me it's likework-life balance is, I think,
kind of overrated.
I think people say that and it'sso taboo now.
And then it's this idea thatlike you really shouldn't have

(28:24):
to work, but like, no, you dohave to work and like, no matter
what you do, whether you stayin the thing that somebody else
is paying you to do or you doyour own thing, it's equally, I
think, more challenging at times, the hard work.
But you know, I like thissaying of like work-life harmony
, like there's this harmoniousum, back and forth or ebb and

(28:44):
flow.
There's a busy season, there'sa slower season, and I think, as
an entrepreneur, like justunderstanding that.
So I don't mind having seasonswhere I'm slower in the morning
and busier in the evenings, orI'm taking a call when I have 15
minutes to quickly touch onsomething I need to, because to
me efficiency is always best andI'm not going to need to
schedule a formal meeting andconform and do the other things

(29:06):
that you know, jobs told us weneed to do.
So, um, I think enjoying whatyou do is huge when it comes to
work life harmony too, becauseyou know we still work a lot of
hours as entrepreneurs and Idon't mind that hustle and those
hours that I put in because Igenuinely love it.
It doesn't take away what Ilove to do.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
So, with your wellness business, what industry
, would you say, a lot of yourclients work in?
Is there a particular industrythat you see a lot of your
clients work in?
Is there a particular industrythat you see a lot of your
clients?
Is it healthcare orconstruction, or do you have any
particular?
It's just all.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, that's a great question.
I think primarily, like 90%,would be education, so
principals, assistant principals, teachers, and then the other
10% is a huge mix.
Like I mentioned, I have a63-year-old that I work with.
I have, you know, a couplewomen in their early 20s,

(30:07):
post-college trying to figure itout, really wanting that
clarity.
I have some people that are adecade or two into their career
and they just are not sureanymore.
So you know they're at thisplace, though the theme with all
of them is like I have tofigure this out right, Similar
to where I was and I wentthrough this two year struggle

(30:28):
of like things being fuzzy andout of focus and finally I
figured it out.
But now I know the questions toask somebody who were following
in my you know, similar journeyto help them get there faster.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Right, right, but what I found interesting about
your services and your businessis when I was like reading it,
like when I first found you, Iread before I reached out to you
, like why isn't this somethingmore prominent in health care?
And I figured that was going tobe your answer.
That's why I just thought ofthis in my head just now, like
because I feel like yourservices with with the treatment

(31:03):
for the access bars and thosethings can be beneficial to
people with high stress jobs.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's on their feet all day, or that's dealing with
aqua surveys and dealing withdifferent you know that's
working a 12 hour shift and youknow, know, having stressful
families that they're workingwith, uh, even caregivers, for
instance, that's dealing withtaking care of mom all the time,
just living with them.
That's this thing be verybeneficial in this area and it's

(31:32):
something that I wanted tointroduce, uh, to a lot of to
the audience that actually, thattunes into this podcast, that
this is a service that can bebeneficial in our field, in
healthcare, and should be moreprominent, and that's why I
wanted to bring you on the showfor sure.
So, if you could just take methrough, just a normal client

(31:57):
just coming in through, just goover your services that you
offer, yeah, just every, justfrom top to bottom yeah, so I'm
actually I'm in the process ofchanging a little bit how I work
with people.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
So I am reserving every quarter of the year a
certain amount of spots forin-person clients.
So those clients I see for boththe access bars, therapy and
the coaching, and I truly amshifting that for the benefit of
my client, because I've justseen the power of combining the
two and it's hugelytransformational.

(32:29):
So I'm reserving a few of thosespots and then I serve virtual
clients.
I do that both through myone-on-one and then I also work
with Reach University, which isan online university, and take
some clients through there.
But they're a really specialschool, I have to shout them out
.
They help take people who arelooking to fast track their way

(32:50):
to a degree in education withouthaving to get separate
internship time outside of theirjobs.
They're not having to take timeaway from their job.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
What's the?

Speaker 1 (32:58):
university, reach University.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Reach Reach University.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yes, and so they essentially help keep them in
their jobs and allow them toaccumulate those course hours
while they're working.
So it's very manageable forteachers, for paraprofessionals,
for whoever is doing thatdegree track.
But I love it and I love thatwellness coaching is part of
what they offer.
So, um, that's another platformthat I do.

(33:26):
But, uh, and then thread is youknow, all the time we're
interfacing with school leadersand in a way it's um, a bit of
wellness coaching too.
But I think the themes that wetalked about in the beginning
are around awareness, like Imentioned earlier.
So it's just building thatunderstanding of you know.
Here's the mirror.
Do you see this?
I'm.
Am I seeing this?
Are we all seeing this?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Right.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
And um, just coming to terms with those truths of
you know what needs to be openedso that you can get to the
place you want to be, or heal,or whatever that looks like for
you.
And then walking the path ofcreating new habits, which I do
using this cognitive behavioraltherapy tool, and it's

(34:09):
essentially thought work is thelayman's terms for it, but it's
all about buildingneuroplasticity in the brain.
So our brains are the onlyorgan in our body that can
actually rebuild or repairthemselves.
You know your liver can't bethe new liver.
You have the one you have, butyour brain can do that.
And it's really awesome to getto experience that with clients

(34:30):
for the first time andunderstand like this is a real
way to change the way I am inthe world.
And then from there we lookinto like how do we make this
last?
So that's, you know, a generalsynopsis.
We do lots more mindfulness andother sorts of mind body
embodiment techniques tofacilitate that process,
especially since we're online.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
But it's totally doable and I'm loving it.
I'm loving seeing the resultsmy clients are having.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
OK, all right.
Well, that's our sign again.
Another surprise for you.
Uh, miss caitlin, I like toplay games.
I like to play games.
So, uh, this here is aquestionnaire.
All right for us to learn alittle bit more about you, all
right?
So, uh, it's called.

(35:18):
Uh, that's my answer.
All right, you only get, let'ssee how many seconds.
I want to give you Threeseconds.
Three seconds to answer, allright.
If you had one thing to eat,one dish that you could eat for
the rest of your life, you hadto eat it every day.
What would it be?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Spaghetti.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Spaghetti all right, With meat or with.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
With tomato sauce.
That's it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
And yeah no meat.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I mean, yeah, but I guess I need it for survival,
right?
Yeah, I guess that may be meat,spaghetti and a meatball.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
A meatball.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, a big meatball, Like we're Italian, so the
meatballs we make are big Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Okay, all right.
If you could have a superpower,what would it be?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Fly.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
To fly.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Fly, fly.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Why do you want to fly?
It's just cool.
You're only giving me threeseconds.
I'm not thinking critically,I'm just coming.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I'm a hard person.
If you could start a rumorabout yourself, what would it be
?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
A rumor about yourself.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, we're not cutting it out either three
seconds.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I don't know, I still play with dolls you still play
with dolls.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
All right, uh, what's the most hilarious um uh secret
you have about yourself?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
okay, the first thing that comes to mind is when I
was in middle school, like I wasseven, like I was a straight
teenager.
I laughed so hard at lunch thatI peed myself.
But I had to act like it wasjust my time of the month so I
made everybody around me like goget me sweatshirts and
everybody felt so bad for me andnobody asked me questions.
But really I had to speakmyself.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Oh, we are friends from middle school.
That they know.
Shout them out on the internet.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Make sure you send them the episode say you know,
jenna, hey, you all know whathappened yeah, they know what
happened.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Make sure you send them the episode too, so they
you know you confess.
Okay, um, what's?
Let's see what else I'm goingto ask you.
All right, if you could be anyanimal, what would it be and why
?
That's the last one I have Anyanimal.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Probably a dolphin.
They're so smart and they knowhow to evade sharks and they all
like team up to make the sharksfeel dumb.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
That is true, so, but dolphins are dolphins to make
the sharks feel dumb, that istrue.
Dolphins are Dolphins arecrooked too.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
They're what.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Dolphins.
What was the dolphins atSeaWorld, they said, took the
lady down all the way to thebottom of the little tank and
just drowned her.
Was that like a sea At a zoo?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well yeah they're in a zoo, they're like not right in
their minds.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Because they're in captivity.
You ever been to SeaWorld?

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, no, actually I would never go to SeaWorld,
Really why?
Because I don't like going tothe zoo.
The aquarium's different.
It's like it's fish, but biggerfish, like whales and like
animals that are, you know,super intelligent.
I just feel bad that they're incaptivity.
Really they're not in theirnatural habitat.
I know I'm like a weird person.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
You're not.
You're not at all.
It's a lot of people like that.
It's an unpopular opinion.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Like am I going to take my kid to the zoo?
Yes, Do I like it?
No.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
You know, going to the zoo, but I'm sorry, let me
not say that.
No, you can like it.
I'm not offended by it, I know.
But uh, all right, back on withthe show, okay, so looking
forward, uh, what's next forhand, and health, uh, wellness,
uh, and thread yeah, um.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Well, I want to start with thread, because I feel
like I haven't bragged about herenough.
We are, so we are actuallygoing to be pitching at 1
million cups in the next month,which is a part of St Petersburg
has this nonprofit called thegreenhouse, and they offer
business mentorship and justpathways to help you take your

(39:22):
business from idea to launch andbeyond.
So we've been partnered with amentor from the greenhouse for
the last two years Shout out toSean and gel, she's amazing and
we are going to formally presentthread to the 1 million cups.
What do you call it?

(39:43):
It's, it's done worldwide, it'san event and it's really just
an opportunity for you to getfeedback on your business and
eventually ask for funding,looking for our sponsors too.
But, yeah, we want to be able tobe serving more schools in more
districts.
We're really looking to gaindistrict contracts.

(40:03):
So we want to be able to takewhat we have and, you know, put
it in the hands of principalsand be able to impact teachers
every day, and I feel like goingto the district level is the
best way to do that.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
So we're excited to grow that in 2025.
And then for Hand and Health.
Like I said, I'm switching acouple of things around,
continuing to save and reservemy energy for creative things
with my business, because that'sreally important to me
balancing that client load andtaking care of myself.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
So all that, all those good things really, you
have already your goals out loudfor this year.
Uh, what does it call?
It been seeing a lot, lot of itThrive in 2025.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Oh, I haven't heard that one.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
You haven't I haven't seen it but Thrive in 2025.
And I think and I'm praying,and I'll pray for you and hope
that that happens for all yourbusinesses.
But you're already on the rightpath.
You have mentorship going,you're reaching out with
resources and I can't wait forthat presentation.
Is it open to the public at all?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
You can come.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
One Million Cups.
They present every Wednesdayfrom 9 to 10 am.
I think you can sign up topitch Really.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
And I don't have to live in Pinellas County.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
I don't believe, so you should look into it.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, yeah, what's up , sean, I want to come on there.
I'm going to get up.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, Sean is a mentor through SCORE, which is
one of their organizations.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Oh, I am familiar with SCORE.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, I'm familiar with SCORE yes, yeah, so that's
how we were connected throughthe greenhouse.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Through the greenhouse.
Okay, well, thank you for that.
Can I shout out?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
another one of my mentors.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Please do Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
So I talked a lot about my journey and fertility
being part of that, and I wouldbe remiss not to shout out
Hilary Talbot-Roland.
She is a life coach andacupuncturist and owner at Art
of Acupuncture in St Pete, andnot only has she been super
influential to me just as ahuman and friend, but she's the

(42:18):
one who encouraged me in thefirst place to take this step
and start coaching and startstepping into, like this new
Caitlin that I didn't reallyknow how to relate to when I
first met and, uh, I, just Ishe's an amazing person.
If you're looking foracupuncture and you're in the
takeaway area, please drive tosee her.

(42:39):
It's worth the 50 minute driveover the bridge.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Um she's amazing.
Thank you.
That's a very nice of you.
Big shout out to you, madam, aswell.
Love what you do, providingrelief, and I have actually
fallen in love with massages too.
Massages Likewise, andpedicures, because I'm from the

(43:06):
country, so I never was raisedlike a male getting pedicures.
You know, because I'm from thecountry, so I never was raised
like a male getting pedicuresand stuff never, ever.
That's awesome, yeah, for real.
So before we wrap up thingshere, where can listeners learn
more about you, your programs,if you can share your socials
and websites?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
yeah, so you can follow Thread on Instagram at
Thread underscore edu.
You can also follow me at Handin Health at Handinhealth,
underscore wellness.
Got to work on that and thenalso wwwsame names of both of
those organizationscom.

(43:46):
And yeah, we'll be very vocalon socials, on LinkedIn as well,
and I would love to connectwith more of your listeners out
there.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yes, for sure.
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