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November 7, 2022 80 mins

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Vietnam War and Linebacker II veteran Ron Bartlett & aviation artist and filmmaker John Mollison bring you Episode 4 of the four-part series on Linebacker II, the Operation that effectively ended the Vietnam War for the United States (and brought the POWs home).

Each episode features a downloadable Educator's Supplement + the 1-2 minute recollections of veterans and their families.

In this Episode,  DFC recipients and POWs Robert Certain (B-52 Navigator) and George Allen “GAR” Rose (F-4 pilot)  describe the events of their shoot-downs, capture and captivity in the “Hanoi Hilton” prison system.  As an historically important addition, both men’s wives — Robbie Certain and Becky Rose also participate in the episode, bringing crucial insight into ’the lives back home.’

Certain’s B-52, “Charcoal 01,” was the first B-52 downed over Hanoi during Linebacker II, 18 December 1972.  Rose was already in the North Vietnamese prison system having been shot down earlier in 1972 when his F-4 Phantom was hit while performing the dangerous “chaff mission” role.

Special note:  Rose’s son Glen is featured in this Podcast’s icon as he greets his father upon return from Vietnam in 1973.  Glen also makes commentary as part of this episode’s pre-recorded sound clips.

CLICK HERE for the downloadable Educator's Supplement for Episode 4.


Ron Bartlett/The Distinguished Flying Cross Society — production support
John Mollison/Old Guys and Their Airplanes — words & pictures
Tom Steever — VoiceOver

The vet/family "Call in hotline" succeeded beyond expectations— to all who participated, THANK YOU X100!


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