January 17, 2025 • 31 mins
Ethan shares his experiences with psilocybin mushrooms, highlighting the clarity gained through nature that drove self-reflection and environmental awareness. The episode also navigates modern dating dynamics, and some NFL commentary.
• Ethan's experiences with psilocybin mushrooms
• Acknowledgement of nature's impact on mental clarity
• Environmental concerns and the plight of shrinking natural landscapes
• The challenges of dating in today's world and social media dynamics
• Commentary on NFL coaching changes and player controversies
• The contrast of the league's disciplinary actions among players
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
all right, what's going on?
Everybody, welcome back.
Thank you for tuning into thisepisode of the lmbe podcast,
where lmbe stands for literallynothing but everything.
I'm mike rispoli and I got areoccurring guest my very, very
first one.
Ethan decided to drop by.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thanks for having me.
Mike, very honored to be yourfirst recurring guest.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
No man, I'm just happy that you stopped by.
I haven't seen you since July,since the last time you were on.
What were we doing in July?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Was that the Yankees game?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, that was actually .
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I think it was Was that yeah, my first time in
Yankee Stadium.
I really liked going there.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
No, I think that was last.
That wasn't this past summer, Ithink that was the summer
before it.
Okay, last time I think weliterally just hung out.
You just came for the day.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's right.
Yeah, I just came for the day.
Yeah, but something that youhave done that.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I have not done because I mentioned it that's a
short list but because Imentioned it on the pod.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You brought it up to me.
You have actually tried shroomson multiple occasions.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
What is it that you like about them?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
because I want people to tell me what their
experiences are, but I it's notsomething I ever think I'm gonna
try, so so to everybodylistening, anybody that's
curious about trying shrooms, Ialways say, obviously talk to
your doctor before if you haveany medical issues.
But I am always Look at thatlittle PSA.
Always be on the safe side.
(01:32):
I have never been a bigexperimentation person.
I didn't start drinking until Iwas in college I started.
I can't smoke because of myasthma, but I have done edibles.
But, like you know, mytolerance is very low.
But I just I wanted to try itand I got to say it was a
beautiful experience.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But not being a big experience or experimental guy
like what made you go.
Oh yeah, that's something thatI want to check out, so I work
in the food service industry.
And what the chef brought overthe wrong container.
It may be a big shock, but alot of people use drugs in the
food service industry.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I know I'm really like the odds over here, but I
would just speak with mycoworkers.
They had really excellentexperiences and I just tried it.
It was one of those chocolateshrooms.
I tried a little cube and itwas in the summer, it was a
beautiful day.
I just went outside woods inthe back of my house.
I just spent hours in the woodsjust looking at everything,
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taking all the sites in For me.
I didn't have anyhallucinations or anything like
that.
I didn't see any imagesinationsor anything like that.
I didn't see any images, buteverything was more defined.
And I did have a lot of claritywhen I was thinking, because I
did some writing when I wastaking the trip but I just
listened to music and it wastruly wonderful.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But clarity on what Like?
Clarity on what you were seeing.
Clarity about yourself Likeself-introspective stuff.
Clarity about yourself likeself introspective stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Introspective, I would say.
I can't recall exactly what itwas because it was a few months
ago but I did write it down andwhen I went back and read it it
did make a lot of sense and I dorecall just a little bit how I
was so grateful to.
I love nature.
I was so grateful to grow up inthe woods as a kid, but my
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parents developed a lot of theland we live on like an acre and
a half, okay, and everybodyaround us the woods is like
constantly shrinking and I justI think it's horrible.
Uh, all the trees are gettingcut down.
So I I made a note like if Iever had the opportunity to buy
a wonderful piece of land withwoods, I would buy up several
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acres so nobody could touch it.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Honestly, that's very commendable because it's funny.
You watch these naturedocumentaries or stuff on
Netflix like whatever DavidAttenborough's got going on.
He's got a great voice oh yeah,but they actually listed his
fear.
What was that the genre?
Like I was watching some naturefear.
What was that the genre?
Like I was watching some naturedoc.
I think it was like Our Planet2 or something.
Oh yes, like there's a seriesor whatever.
(04:11):
And the genre was labeled asfear because it was about
climate change?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, it is.
I think that's an appropriatelabel.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, I mean, it really is.
I mean, for people who don'tcare, they're probably like, oh,
like, whatever, it's justwhatever.
But it really is kind ofamazing how much smaller like
our world is becoming and it'sdue to like bill burr says it
best like population control,yes, like, like.
Honestly, at what point do welook back on ourselves like we
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are the problem?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
like you, remember that scene in the office where
they're just surrounded bypeople dwight's looking around
we, there's too many people.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
We need a new play I'm like oh, he's not wrong,
it's like isn't the whole pointof going to therapy just
realizing what your faults arelike?
Yes, isn't that what somewhatof the role of government should
be?
Like, guys, you are the fuckingissue here.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We do what you want.
You're the problem.
But just to wrap up the shroomsconversation, I highly highly
recommend it for everybody.
To be completely transparentI'm not a narcotics person.
I'll never do cocaine oranything like that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh, what you don't like that pile of sugar that's
just sitting in the kitchen atwork.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, you just don't know what it's laced with,
especially now I've got fentanyland shit.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, exactly, you couldn't pay me to touch that
shit.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And yeah, I just have a fear of overdose.
Do you know Len Bias?
Yeah yeah, I watched thatdocumentary when I was 10 and I
have ptsd from that, so but justlogically thinking, if a six
foot nine in this prime athletedies, what's gonna happen to me?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
skinny white boy, or then then you look at a guy like
lawrence taylor.
It never affected never, and heplayed better.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
He was like I played better when I was like when
you're already fucking crazylike you've got a crazy enhancer
.
Yeah, like dude became bobbyboucher out there no, but if
anybody is ever thinking aboutit on the fence, about shrooms,
I really highly recommend I didit alone.
I don't recommend it doing.
(06:23):
I had a wonderful time but justin case something goes haywire.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Well, you're also home.
Yeah, yeah, I was home, but Ilive with my mom, I'm out in
nature, my house is right there,yeah, yeah but.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I was like I live with my mom, so I'm not going to
be like Mom, I'm having a panictrip.
I would never say that.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Oh, you mean like the person who wrote it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
yeah, yeah, just do it, um, do it with a friend or
do it with a significant other,but highly recommend it's a
really wonderful time I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I just know myself and I know how my mind is and I
just know that that trip wouldnot go as planned.
Yeah, I would not reach thedestination.
I'd be like freakingchristopher columbus I'm in
india, just fucking lying totelling them that I ended up
where I wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, I mean, you really don't know, until you
know, that's all speculation,but of course I never peer
pressure you.
Yeah, well, thank you Iappreciate that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I mean, especially having worked in service, I've
definitely seen it.
I've definitely been offered.
I never accepted it justbecause drugs really just are
not my thing.
I've smoked weed which was,like honestly, the hardest
substance I've done.
I used to drink quite a bit,but in service, like you
definitely know that drug use isvery prevalent.
Because you got to think of itthis way like a lot of people's
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version of going out is going tobars or going to clubs, xyz.
But then all of those guys whoare working or all those women
who are working, like theirnightlife is work, yeah.
So then what do they do onceeverything is shut down?
They just go out on the streetsand find their fun.
Yes, exactly so.
Like that people in the serviceindustry or whatever, just very
(07:59):
, be very careful with whatyou're getting, with what you're
trying to do, like seriouslyand honestly I'm just going to
extend this out to anybody who'sinvolved with any sort of drugs
Like, if that is what you liketo do for fun, just be very
careful with what you're doingand what you're getting.
But like getting sketchy shitoff of like some guy named
Spider is not my ideal use of afun time.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Come on, neck tattoo.
He looked like a nice guy.
Did he looked like a nice guy?
Did you ever hear the?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
study.
Oh, you're saying people withneck tattoos are nice guys.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, I'm not saying that, just saying it's a bit of
a yellow flag.
Maybe Did you ever hear theresearch that came out and said
the true test of somebody thatyou can trust will they pick you
up from the airport on time.
Just think about it.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm chronically late to everything, everything so on.
Time is a bit of a stretch, butI'll pick you up from the
airport.
I might be an hour late becauseyou call me.
I'm still hitting snooze, butI'll get there.
I'll get there when I get there.
Hey, you called me for this.
Maybe that's the Greenwich in meat this point you need me a
little bit more than I need you.
(09:02):
Oh my gosh, you ever freaking,you ever like on shrooms and
you're swiping through datingapps and you're just like, oh my
gosh, is this the type of beastthat I'm seeing?
Or is this what this?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
job looks like Right, exactly Like.
Who am I actually swiping onover here?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, granted, women could also be thinking the
same thing when they're comingacross my profile, not even
under the influence I didn't doit, I never.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I didn't go on any social media or dating apps when
I was probably for the best.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Probably for the best .
Yeah, I can only imagine thisshit.
My trip.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Instincts are pretty good no but you're also off the
dating apps too, right,completely off.
I go through phases like on andoff.
Since, uh, I broke up with mylong-term girlfriend about two
and a half years ago, I've beenon and off with it.
I've just done a lot ofresearch and it's really hard
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for both men and women.
Let's just be honest, it'sharder to date.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I think it's easier for women, holy crap.
There was this chick who, whenI was at a bar like actually
last week I was hanging out withone of my friends and there was
this girl who comes in andshe's just like, oh, I'm not
really on dating apps.
And then she pulls out herphone, opens up a dating app.
It's all dating apps.
She's got a thousand peoplethat have liked her, she's got a
(10:22):
thousand notifications and I'mjust like how the fuck do you
keep up with that?
I'm lucky if I get one match aweek or one like a week.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'm like am I the hunchback of Notre Dame?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
What the fuck is wrong with me, dude.
It is a totally differentanimal for women, I truly think,
because more men are on them,because, I mean, men are
honestly like the definition ofthe bills and the lines, just
desperate for a win.
Yeah, so it's very true.
Is it just because, like Idon't know, I don't want to say
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this and like, say somethingtotally ignorant?
But is it just because womenaren't in as much of like, like
they're not on the hunt, as muchlike they don't really need to
put?
I'm not saying they don't needto put in as much effort, but
they know that as long as you'reattractive, you're gonna get
that.
Like some random person oninstagram that pops up on your
feed with a giant ass, you knowyou're gonna like it.
(11:14):
You, you have no chance of evermeeting this woman, but on, on
the off chance, oh, maybe she'llsee my like.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, I don't have a personal opinion on it.
I just know what people thatresearch this have said it's.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Dude.
If you're looking into datingapp research, Dude.
I'm like, that's how I amYou're trying to rig the system.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I'm like a logical driven person.
That's what I do.
It's different for women inthis respect.
Well, because A women havehigher standards, which makes
sense, because the consequencesfor them are greater right yeah.
So men can just pull out andhit the road right, or I mean,
let's be real here.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Look at the news.
Yeah, men can be not thegreatest sometimes.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Absolutely.
It's just with women.
They may get more likes andthey may get more matches, but
it's can be an overwhelmingamount of guys.
You don't know who's a good guy, who's a douchebag.
So guys were begging to get asingle match, but for girls they
have this overwhelming amount.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So that's why you get like the generic hey, hey yeah
you get no personal connection,so it's difficult for both
parties I mean it's funny,because then I'm like, as I said
, I was watching naturedocumentaries and how they're
labeled as fear um which that'sso interesting.
Dating apps are fearful in a lotof ways for multiple reasons,
but it is at a certain pointdating apps kind of bring out
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that animalistic nature whereit's just like women truly have
the pick of the litter, like mencould do all of these things to
come off as attractive.
Like in nature, it's about ifyou're the strongest, you've got
the most colors, like xyz, toprove your genetic worth.
But, um, at the end of the day,it's up to the, the female, to
choose which one they want tomate with.
(12:56):
So, in essence, like, humansstill are animals in that regard
because, like men go out on thehunt but women are, we're
ultimately at the helm of whatwomen choose.
Women are the ultimate decider.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
They are Growing up.
My dad always called my mom thecommander in chief of the house
, cause she was.
She ran the house, and that'swhy I'm migrating away from the
dating apps, because, at the endof the day, I think most people
want to meet somebody in person, like in real life is but dude,
how do you do that?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
you ever watch super bad where it was just like, yeah
, you never want to meet a chickat a bar.
And then he goes on to say thatlike four of his ex-wives were
met at a bar I don't personallytake my advice from super bad,
but maybe maybe I should.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So what I'm gonna do is I'm being serious like just
volunteer more.
I've been looking into the bestbuddies, which is, uh what tom
brady did special olympics, thattype of thing.
Just to meet people in reallife versus.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I can't stand the virtual yeah, I mean, even as a
guy, I struggle with it.
Personally I struggle with ittoo because I I truly think it
ultimately to edit to a degree.
It is another form of socialmedia and I do wonder if a lot
of people are on it.
I mean, how many dating apps doyou go through with a profile?
The bio is just the person'sInsta all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So I do wonder if, for a matter of it, it is a
slight bit of attention seekingwhere men and women like not
just women, but men and women,absolutely Are just looking to
see, like, how many likes theycan acquire without actually
like, like, or even peopletrying to reach into your DMs
and stuff, like it's nodifferent.
(14:36):
Um, but I definitely think thevolunteer route is a good idea.
That was something on my agendafor 2025 as my own personal
resolution is just to try andget not even, uh, volunteering
to be a good person, but just ingeneral, just to maybe meet
somebody because it can be atwo-for-one, it can have
multiple uses.
(14:57):
Exactly so I mean the benefit isthere is something a little bit
out of it for me, but alsohopefully the good news is you
also put something back out intothe community as well.
Exactly my big thing was Iwanted to do an animal shelter,
yeah.
So I mean I don't want to do itright now because it's dead of
winter and I'm not walking afucking dog in eight degree
weather.
I mean it's fucking colder thana witch's tit outside.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, some of these facilities, some of these animal
shelters have indoor facilities.
So you may not know.
I don't know how the local oneworks.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean honestly, maybe dosomething, Maybe I do do it now,
and that way it's just like oh,you don't have to take them for
walks, but you can play withthem Like dog.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
yes, everybody and that has more mental health
impact for you, because justpetting a dog like reduces
stress.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's incredible yeah, but I mean you could also just
look at a pair of titties thoseare a bit more uh, a bit harder
to get no, that's a legit stat,though, like if men um either
see or touch titties.
Apparently it can decreaseanxiety in one way or another.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Something about it.
Where was that research?
Where can I volunteer for thisstudy group?
I'll look it up.
Hang on.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Alright, After a quick little Google research
here, I found something fromVanguard.
No joke, Quote unquote.
I'm going to Hang on.
The study, which was carriedout over a period of five years,
involves 500 men, half of whomwere instructed to stare at
women's breasts in a lustfulmanner for no less than 10
minutes every day In a lustfulmanner.
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The other half were instructedto abstain from doing such, Did
they?
I wouldn't be able to Dude.
I got a friggin' naked womanjust in the room.
You expect me not to look?
Give me a break.
Just in the room.
You expect me not to look.
Give me a break.
It concluded that men whostared at breasts more often
showed lower rates of heartproblems, slower resting heart
rate and lower blood pressure,all of which enable a healthy
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living and long life.
The study said men should stareat breasts for 10 minutes a day
to improve the wellness oftheir hearts and live longer.
But if you're gay, does thattranslate to man titties?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So, ladies, if you catch me gawking, it's not
because I'm a creep, it'sbecause I value my health, it's
for my health what I'm notallowed to live longer.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Come on, I mean the research says I should.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
It's a science.
You can't debate the science.
We are not science deniers overhere.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
No way, Dude.
Honestly, you could run forpresident on that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Everybody's staring titties, climate change and
titties.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh man, All right, but wait.
In other news, how excited areyou that the Patriots hired Mike
Vrabel to be their head coach?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
excited are you that the Patriots hired Mike Vrabel
to be their head coach?
Not only am I ecstatic thatthey hired Mike Vrabel, who's a
highly intelligent guy, has hadsuccess in the league.
They didn't waste any time.
They didn't interview thiscoordinator that coordinator.
They did interview a coupleguys, but but right away, the
season's still going on.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean they interviewed a couple guys, but
honestly there's a little bit ofcontroversy with it because I
think they did it just to adhereto the Rooney rule.
Oh, you're talking about theother interviews, yeah there
were a couple coordinators thatthey hired who were minority,
and it was literally just due tothe Rooney rule.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But at the end of the day I think they got the right
guy.
A he's a culture builder,absolutely.
We've got to be completelyobjective on this the culture.
When Bill Belichick left he'sthe greatest coach of all time
it was a bit in shambles, ohyeah, and now I think Mike
Vrabel will repair that for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Part of that makes me wonder how much of that was
Bill and how much of that wasjust Mac Jones.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
being Mac Jones, like Mac, much of that was bill, and
how much of that was just macjones being mac jones, like mac
baby jones.
Yeah, mac can't play.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I think we're seeing that now, I still swear to god I
think I could throw a ballfarther than that guy could this
summer we're gonna do that allright, we'll test it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Just gonna do, uh, 50 curls a day just pump up your
arm.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
No, it's not even just a matter of like building
up, it's all in the hips yougotta do the tb.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You got to be completely dedicated for six
months, no, but seriously, Ithink it's all about.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It's more about the mechanics than it is your
strength.
I mean strength comes into apart of it, but it's a lot in
same with golf, like you couldbe the biggest guy, but if your
mechanics aren't good, thatball's going nowhere.
So I mean look at BakerMayfield in comparison to Josh
Allen.
Josh Allen is what?
6'5", 230?
(19:21):
Like the dude's a beast.
Look at Baker he's like what?
6'1"?
And he's like 210?
And Baker throws a 60-yard ball.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, I mean all these guys got candidates.
But just circling back toBelichick, I think he was a
victim of hubris.
I mean Brady left because ofBill and we know about the draft
.
I think it was a little bitmore than that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I think it was a matter of also because Brady, I
think, wanted to stay because heloved the Kraft family.
That's also because Bradywasn't the one giving Kraft a
massage, Ayo.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, can I just say Robert Kraft has the best PR
team in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Well, even in the roast, Jeff Ross makes a joke.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Don't talk about that and Brady went right up right
away.
So you know that's the line.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Something, something happened.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
You can talk about my ex-wife all you want, but not
Robert Kraft's sex ring.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I don't know, man, there's something happened with
that, but he was a great owner.
Man that there's somethinghappened with that, but, um, but
he was a great owner, he, um,but no, I think there was other
things with that Cause.
Um, it wasn't just the BradyBelichick thing, I think it was
also Brady wanted to stay, butBrady just didn't have the
weapons and Belichick is anotoriously bad drafter.
So I think at the end of theday it also came down to the
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cash that Brady knew he wasworth.
And Brady was like yo, ifyou're not going to pay me, at
least get me a guy who you'rewilling to pay to help, like,
get me a weapon here.
And Belichick was just like,well, no, I don't want to pay
you.
Because at that point it's alsolike well, you've been taking
cuts, why now, all of a sudden,do you want to get paid?
And it's like, I don't know,maybe because I won you fucking
six rings here, buddy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, exactly, and it was there's, you're right, A
lot of a lot of factors.
Belichick was upset with theGaroppolo trade because, Kraft
got involved, and that was Brady.
Brady wanted Garoppolo out.
In hindsight, Brady was rightBecause Garoppolo's not that
good, no, right, yeah, scrappleis not that good no, he's not.
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But I'm just really lookingforward to a new era, new blood
and, I think, mike rabel isgoing to do a great job.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I think I mean rabel brings the tennessee titans,
made them the number one seedwith ryan tannahill at the helm.
I mean grand, you also haveprime derrick henry, but you
also had aj brown that offenseunder.
I mean freaking ryan tannah.
It was looking like a bust onMiami.
He goes over to the Titans,better coaching and all of a
(21:43):
sudden now he's making a ProBowl.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
And the AFC too.
The Bills with Josh Allen, theChiefs with Patrick Mahomes
that's a feat.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Josh Allen technically wasn't Josh Allen
because everybody slept on him.
Yeah, he was pretty young.
His first season he threw 56%of his passes and people were
just like, oh, this guy's notgoing to pan out.
But then you look at a guy likeTrevor Lawrence who throws the
most amount of interceptions andeverybody's like, oh well, like
Peyton Manning also had a shitton of interceptions his rookie
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season, Like let's see how thispans out.
And Trevor Lawrence, you canadmit to this, I told you this
when he came in.
Yeah, everybody said, oh, it'slike the payton manning effect.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I was like no, he's not gonna pan out mike has been
on the trevor lawrence sucksbandwagon for several years and
just because he was so dominantin college he's a historically
great.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
He went number one overall for a reason and he's
got all the physical tools.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
but you, you're right , he is just not produced, look.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback.
There are quarterbacks that Iwould not take Top 15.
He's top 15, but that's mid.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
There's only 32 teams in the league and they just
signed him $200 million fullyguaranteed.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
They're going to rename his stadium after this
guy.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
They're just so desperate.
They, they're just so desperate.
They're like please, anyonewho's somewhat decent.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
No, I think Trevor is a good talent.
I just don't think he's A-pluscaliber level.
I don't think he's worth the$230 million contract.
No way, I mean, there are worsethings.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Deshaun Watson, easily the worst situation in
the league Honestly probably oneof the biggest falls from
graces I've ever seen, besidesAntonio Brown.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
A video surfaced of him his rookie year.
He's like giving out his checksto the lunch ladies, like he's
this community oriented guy, andthen boom, 25 women.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
No, he wasn't handing them checks because he was a
great guy.
He was handing them checks tobe fucking quiet.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No, no, no, they were lunch, ladies.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Oh, you think quiet?
No, no, no, they were lunchladies, oh you think he?
No, it's legit you think hisdick has any bounds.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's legit that motherfucker, it's legit.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I hate this fucking guy, I really do.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I don't know why he's still allowed to play.
That's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Because the Browns do what the fucking Browns do.
No, that's the league.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That comes down to the league's decision.
You have this predator on thefield and that's disgraceful.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'm so happy.
Honestly, I'm just going tocome out and say it I'm so glad
that this guy's not playing in2025 because somehow, somewhere,
I saw something that hesuffered an ACL injury.
I don't know if this was duringthe season, but it just came
out a week ago and I'm just like, oh great, I don't have to see
this fucking guy in 2025.
I'm happy to do it.
People getting pissed off thatthe fans were cheering when he
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went down.
What the fuck else do youexpect them to do?
The guy sucks.
He's a fucking rapist.
Yes, why is he allowed to toucha fucking field?
Why is he allowed to be 100yards within a fucking stadium?
Every fucking stadium shouldhave a restraining order on this
guy.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's disgraceful.
And then Tom Brady isrelatively aware that the balls
are deflated and they.
That's like a media circus.
He went to the court.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
The NFL has always had disciplinary problems, but
this is like top of the game.
Make it make sense, ray.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Rice gets into trouble for beating the shit out
of his girlfriend in anelevator Not direct cold, but
trouble for beating the shit outof his girlfriend in an
elevator.
But then she comes out and saysoh no, it's okay.
Whatever which it's not okay, Idon't give a fuck what anybody
says.
But the league still ousted himlike that was that, never even
went to trial, like nothinghappened.
But the league themselves arelike we're not dealing with this
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.
Meanwhile the sean watson howfucking bill cosby of the nfl,
bill Cosby?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
of the.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
NFL and the Browns are just like 265 up front
Guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
No, I think it's a fully guaranteed contract.
Is it fully guaranteed?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, so what happened was when they traded
him from the Texans, they rippedup his Texans contract, gave
him a brand new deal, fullyguaranteed, and it totally
upended the contracts why?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
because they knew that he would need money to pay
out these women like Jesus.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Christ, because Jimmy Haslam is the worst owner in
NFL football now that Dan Snyderis gone.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
He's the worst owner.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Oh my god, and I feel bad because Browns fans, they
love their team, they lovefootball and now they have to
suffer through this terribletime and baker's killing it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Like how does that make you?
Look?
You sign this fucking guy to xamount of money to suck, not
even play two full seasons.
He's played one season in twoseasons because he's only played
eight games every year thathe's been on this fucking team,
yeah, and can't play, and hecan't play anymore.
Meanwhile, baker's down intampa, the playoffs, making the
playoffs, killing itBack-to-back years.
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It's unreal.
I'll take Baker over TrevorLawrence right now.
I would take Baker over DeshaunWatson, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You'd take some backups over Deshaun Watson, for
sure.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Oh yeah, I mean, I would definitely take Joe Flacco
over Deshaun Watson, eventhough he's 41.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I don't care, he still has a cannon.
He still has a cannon.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Hey, he brought the Browns to the playoffs.
That was the whole reason theydidn't get rid of him, because
that was a quarterbackcontroversy.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Besides the fans, I really feel for kevin stephansky
because he's really a top, anelite coach I know he's working
with.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
He's like what do I have to work?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
yeah, I feel bad, but he's gonna get blamed, he's
gonna get fired right, eventhough it's jimmy haslam who
wanted this trade, wanted thiscontract, even though they
traded for him and signed tothat contract when they knew
these allegations were comingout.
Just a horrible, horrible owner.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I just can't.
Your name is the Browns.
You have a shitty name.
It makes sense that you guys—.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Get a logo man.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Another guy I think should be fired just to kind of
deviate off of this.
I still think Sean McDermottshould be fired.
Dude, we were watching thatgame today.
You're up by three scores.
In the fourth quarter you stillgot Josh Allen playing and he's
throwing the ball.
You got five minutes lefttaking hits.
Why are you making this guythrow the ball?
You got a big game coming upnext week, the fuck.
(27:43):
This is why Sean McDermott, youcan say he's a great coach.
He's made the playoffs, hasn'tbeaten the Chiefs in the
playoffs.
He's a great coach.
He's made the playoffs, hasn'tbeaten the Chiefs in the
playoffs.
He's kind of like Andy Reid onthe Eagles.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
He just can't get over that hump.
Andy Reid went to five straightNFC championships with Donovan
McNabb.
True, that's elite, but Iunderstand where you're coming
from and it's not hisquarterback.
His quarterback's one of thebest in the league.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Exactly, it's him, it's his defense.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
It collapses.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But it's shit like that where I'm just like why are
you not just running the ball?
You got James Cook, who'salready got.
He almost had I think theyscrambled for 182 yards at that
point in the game.
You got James Cook.
I think he's a top running backright now.
Why wouldn't you just run outthe ball, eat up the clock, make
the team use their timeouts?
You're down three scores.
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They're not coming back.
There's no way.
I completely agree and not tototally deviate, but it reminds
me because we were also talkingabout this earlier.
It's like how many guys?
Because we're talking aboutMike Tomlin, and if the Steelers
should move off of him, how doyou move off of a guy that's had
what?
15 straight or winning seasons,never had a losing season.
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He's gone eight and eight a fewtimes.
And I mean there's a couplegames the last couple seasons.
I mean you're playing mitchtrubitsky, you still get over
500 wins.
Can he pick it?
Can he pick it like um, how doyou move off of that?
And I just don't think thatmike tomlin is actually the
problem.
And you could argue oh well, hedoesn't really have the
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postseason success.
It's like how many Super Bowlswould the Steelers have won with
Big Ben?
Or how many Super Bowls wouldPeyton Manning have won if Brady
was not in the league?
Because Brady ruined a lot,like he cut a lot of playoff
appearances short.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's like Tiger Woods in golf or Michael Jordan in
basketball Charles Barkley wouldhave a ring, Karl Malone would
have a ring if it weren't forMichael Jordan.
So yeah, Tom Brady has thateffect.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Reggie Miller would probably have a ring.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Reggie Miller for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I mean Reggie Miller, probably the greatest player of
all time without a ring in theNBA.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
No, it's got to be Charles Barkley.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He has an MVP, so yeah, reggie doesn't have an MVP
.
Oh then, never mind, I retractthat.
I know nothing about NBA ball,so there's that.
Yeah, no, I am looking forwardto the Patriots, though.
Moving on to next season.
We got our guy, we got ourcoach.
It's just going to depend onwho they get for OC and DC.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But those are the building blocks.
That's the foundation.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
T Higgins coming off a free agency, hopefully.
I mean the Patriots got a lotof cap money they can use.
Pay a guy, build your O-linewith the draft, see what happens
.
I think I thought it was goingto be at least 10 years before
the Pats were back in it.
But we get a decent widereceiver, we fix this O-line, we
get some competent coaches,we'll be back in there within
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three.
Yeah, easy, I'm very optimistic.
All right, and with that littlenote of optimism, thanks for
popping by, ethan.
I really appreciated you comingon.
Always a pleasure seeing you.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Thank you for having me, mike, and I know this is
going to be episode 52.
And I just want to say howproud I am of you for sticking
through this.
I'm very proud to be yourfriend.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Oh, I got to be honest, I was not expecting that
, but thanks, man, I alsoappreciate being your friend too
.
All right guys.
Thank you for listening to thisepisode.
If you guys enjoyed it, pleaseshare it with a friend, like,
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You guys know the deal.
If you want to reach out, feelfree to send me an email at
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Thank you.
all right, what's going on?
Everybody, welcome back.
Thank you for tuning into thisepisode of the lmbe podcast,
where lmbe stands for literallynothing but everything.
I'm mike rispoli and I got areoccurring guest my very, very
first one.
Ethan decided to drop by.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thanks for having me.
Mike, very honored to be yourfirst recurring guest.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
No man, I'm just happy that you stopped by.
I haven't seen you since July,since the last time you were on.
What were we doing in July?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Was that the Yankees game?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, that was actually .
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I think it was Was that yeah, my first time in
Yankee Stadium.
I really liked going there.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
No, I think that was last.
That wasn't this past summer, Ithink that was the summer
before it.
Okay, last time I think weliterally just hung out.
You just came for the day.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's right.
Yeah, I just came for the day.
Yeah, but something that youhave done that.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I have not done because I mentioned it that's a
short list but because Imentioned it on the pod.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You brought it up to me.
You have actually tried shroomson multiple occasions.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
What is it that you like about them?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
because I want people to tell me what their
experiences are, but I it's notsomething I ever think I'm gonna
try, so so to everybodylistening, anybody that's
curious about trying shrooms, Ialways say, obviously talk to
your doctor before if you haveany medical issues.
But I am always Look at thatlittle PSA.
Always be on the safe side.
(01:32):
I have never been a bigexperimentation person.
I didn't start drinking until Iwas in college I started.
I can't smoke because of myasthma, but I have done edibles.
But, like you know, mytolerance is very low.
But I just I wanted to try itand I got to say it was a
beautiful experience.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But not being a big experience or experimental guy
like what made you go.
Oh yeah, that's something thatI want to check out, so I work
in the food service industry.
And what the chef brought overthe wrong container.
It may be a big shock, but alot of people use drugs in the
food service industry.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I know I'm really like the odds over here, but I
would just speak with mycoworkers.
They had really excellentexperiences and I just tried it.
It was one of those chocolateshrooms.
I tried a little cube and itwas in the summer, it was a
beautiful day.
I just went outside woods inthe back of my house.
I just spent hours in the woodsjust looking at everything,
(02:38):
taking all the sites in For me.
I didn't have anyhallucinations or anything like
that.
I didn't see any imagesinationsor anything like that.
I didn't see any images, buteverything was more defined.
And I did have a lot of claritywhen I was thinking, because I
did some writing when I wastaking the trip but I just
listened to music and it wastruly wonderful.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But clarity on what Like?
Clarity on what you were seeing.
Clarity about yourself Likeself-introspective stuff.
Clarity about yourself likeself introspective stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Introspective, I would say.
I can't recall exactly what itwas because it was a few months
ago but I did write it down andwhen I went back and read it it
did make a lot of sense and I dorecall just a little bit how I
was so grateful to.
I love nature.
I was so grateful to grow up inthe woods as a kid, but my
(03:27):
parents developed a lot of theland we live on like an acre and
a half, okay, and everybodyaround us the woods is like
constantly shrinking and I justI think it's horrible.
Uh, all the trees are gettingcut down.
So I I made a note like if Iever had the opportunity to buy
a wonderful piece of land withwoods, I would buy up several
(03:47):
acres so nobody could touch it.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Honestly, that's very commendable because it's funny.
You watch these naturedocumentaries or stuff on
Netflix like whatever DavidAttenborough's got going on.
He's got a great voice oh yeah,but they actually listed his
fear.
What was that the genre?
Like I was watching some naturefear.
What was that the genre?
Like I was watching some naturedoc.
I think it was like Our Planet2 or something.
Oh yes, like there's a seriesor whatever.
(04:11):
And the genre was labeled asfear because it was about
climate change?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, it is.
I think that's an appropriatelabel.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, I mean, it really is.
I mean, for people who don'tcare, they're probably like, oh,
like, whatever, it's justwhatever.
But it really is kind ofamazing how much smaller like
our world is becoming and it'sdue to like bill burr says it
best like population control,yes, like, like.
Honestly, at what point do welook back on ourselves like we
(04:42):
are the problem?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
like you, remember that scene in the office where
they're just surrounded bypeople dwight's looking around
we, there's too many people.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
We need a new play I'm like oh, he's not wrong,
it's like isn't the whole pointof going to therapy just
realizing what your faults arelike?
Yes, isn't that what somewhatof the role of government should
be?
Like, guys, you are the fuckingissue here.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We do what you want.
You're the problem.
But just to wrap up the shroomsconversation, I highly highly
recommend it for everybody.
To be completely transparentI'm not a narcotics person.
I'll never do cocaine oranything like that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh, what you don't like that pile of sugar that's
just sitting in the kitchen atwork.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, you just don't know what it's laced with,
especially now I've got fentanyland shit.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, exactly, you couldn't pay me to touch that
shit.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And yeah, I just have a fear of overdose.
Do you know Len Bias?
Yeah yeah, I watched thatdocumentary when I was 10 and I
have ptsd from that, so but justlogically thinking, if a six
foot nine in this prime athletedies, what's gonna happen to me?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
skinny white boy, or then then you look at a guy like
lawrence taylor.
It never affected never, and heplayed better.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
He was like I played better when I was like when
you're already fucking crazylike you've got a crazy enhancer
.
Yeah, like dude became bobbyboucher out there no, but if
anybody is ever thinking aboutit on the fence, about shrooms,
I really highly recommend I didit alone.
I don't recommend it doing.
(06:23):
I had a wonderful time but justin case something goes haywire.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Well, you're also home.
Yeah, yeah, I was home, but Ilive with my mom, I'm out in
nature, my house is right there,yeah, yeah but.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I was like I live with my mom, so I'm not going to
be like Mom, I'm having a panictrip.
I would never say that.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Oh, you mean like the person who wrote it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
yeah, yeah, just do it, um, do it with a friend or
do it with a significant other,but highly recommend it's a
really wonderful time I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I just know myself and I know how my mind is and I
just know that that trip wouldnot go as planned.
Yeah, I would not reach thedestination.
I'd be like freakingchristopher columbus I'm in
india, just fucking lying totelling them that I ended up
where I wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, I mean, you really don't know, until you
know, that's all speculation,but of course I never peer
pressure you.
Yeah, well, thank you Iappreciate that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I mean, especially having worked in service, I've
definitely seen it.
I've definitely been offered.
I never accepted it justbecause drugs really just are
not my thing.
I've smoked weed which was,like honestly, the hardest
substance I've done.
I used to drink quite a bit,but in service, like you
definitely know that drug use isvery prevalent.
Because you got to think of itthis way like a lot of people's
(07:38):
version of going out is going tobars or going to clubs, xyz.
But then all of those guys whoare working or all those women
who are working, like theirnightlife is work, yeah.
So then what do they do onceeverything is shut down?
They just go out on the streetsand find their fun.
Yes, exactly so.
Like that people in the serviceindustry or whatever, just very
(07:59):
, be very careful with whatyou're getting, with what you're
trying to do, like seriouslyand honestly I'm just going to
extend this out to anybody who'sinvolved with any sort of drugs
Like, if that is what you liketo do for fun, just be very
careful with what you're doingand what you're getting.
But like getting sketchy shitoff of like some guy named
Spider is not my ideal use of afun time.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Come on, neck tattoo.
He looked like a nice guy.
Did he looked like a nice guy?
Did you ever hear the?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
study.
Oh, you're saying people withneck tattoos are nice guys.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, I'm not saying that, just saying it's a bit of
a yellow flag.
Maybe Did you ever hear theresearch that came out and said
the true test of somebody thatyou can trust will they pick you
up from the airport on time.
Just think about it.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm chronically late to everything, everything so on.
Time is a bit of a stretch, butI'll pick you up from the
airport.
I might be an hour late becauseyou call me.
I'm still hitting snooze, butI'll get there.
I'll get there when I get there.
Hey, you called me for this.
Maybe that's the Greenwich in meat this point you need me a
little bit more than I need you.
(09:02):
Oh my gosh, you ever freaking,you ever like on shrooms and
you're swiping through datingapps and you're just like, oh my
gosh, is this the type of beastthat I'm seeing?
Or is this what this?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
job looks like Right, exactly Like.
Who am I actually swiping onover here?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, granted, women could also be thinking the
same thing when they're comingacross my profile, not even
under the influence I didn't doit, I never.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I didn't go on any social media or dating apps when
I was probably for the best.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Probably for the best .
Yeah, I can only imagine thisshit.
My trip.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Instincts are pretty good no but you're also off the
dating apps too, right,completely off.
I go through phases like on andoff.
Since, uh, I broke up with mylong-term girlfriend about two
and a half years ago, I've beenon and off with it.
I've just done a lot ofresearch and it's really hard
(09:56):
for both men and women.
Let's just be honest, it'sharder to date.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I think it's easier for women, holy crap.
There was this chick who, whenI was at a bar like actually
last week I was hanging out withone of my friends and there was
this girl who comes in andshe's just like, oh, I'm not
really on dating apps.
And then she pulls out herphone, opens up a dating app.
It's all dating apps.
She's got a thousand peoplethat have liked her, she's got a
(10:22):
thousand notifications and I'mjust like how the fuck do you
keep up with that?
I'm lucky if I get one match aweek or one like a week.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'm like am I the hunchback of Notre Dame?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
What the fuck is wrong with me, dude.
It is a totally differentanimal for women, I truly think,
because more men are on them,because, I mean, men are
honestly like the definition ofthe bills and the lines, just
desperate for a win.
Yeah, so it's very true.
Is it just because, like Idon't know, I don't want to say
(10:53):
this and like, say somethingtotally ignorant?
But is it just because womenaren't in as much of like, like
they're not on the hunt, as muchlike they don't really need to
put?
I'm not saying they don't needto put in as much effort, but
they know that as long as you'reattractive, you're gonna get
that.
Like some random person oninstagram that pops up on your
feed with a giant ass, you knowyou're gonna like it.
(11:14):
You, you have no chance of evermeeting this woman, but on, on
the off chance, oh, maybe she'llsee my like.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, I don't have a personal opinion on it.
I just know what people thatresearch this have said it's.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Dude.
If you're looking into datingapp research, Dude.
I'm like, that's how I amYou're trying to rig the system.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I'm like a logical driven person.
That's what I do.
It's different for women inthis respect.
Well, because A women havehigher standards, which makes
sense, because the consequencesfor them are greater right yeah.
So men can just pull out andhit the road right, or I mean,
let's be real here.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Look at the news.
Yeah, men can be not thegreatest sometimes.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Absolutely.
It's just with women.
They may get more likes andthey may get more matches, but
it's can be an overwhelmingamount of guys.
You don't know who's a good guy, who's a douchebag.
So guys were begging to get asingle match, but for girls they
have this overwhelming amount.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So that's why you get like the generic hey, hey yeah
you get no personal connection,so it's difficult for both
parties I mean it's funny,because then I'm like, as I said
, I was watching naturedocumentaries and how they're
labeled as fear um which that'sso interesting.
Dating apps are fearful in a lotof ways for multiple reasons,
but it is at a certain pointdating apps kind of bring out
(12:34):
that animalistic nature whereit's just like women truly have
the pick of the litter, like mencould do all of these things to
come off as attractive.
Like in nature, it's about ifyou're the strongest, you've got
the most colors, like xyz, toprove your genetic worth.
But, um, at the end of the day,it's up to the, the female, to
choose which one they want tomate with.
(12:56):
So, in essence, like, humansstill are animals in that regard
because, like men go out on thehunt but women are, we're
ultimately at the helm of whatwomen choose.
Women are the ultimate decider.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
They are Growing up.
My dad always called my mom thecommander in chief of the house
, cause she was.
She ran the house, and that'swhy I'm migrating away from the
dating apps, because, at the endof the day, I think most people
want to meet somebody in person, like in real life is but dude,
how do you do that?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
you ever watch super bad where it was just like, yeah
, you never want to meet a chickat a bar.
And then he goes on to say thatlike four of his ex-wives were
met at a bar I don't personallytake my advice from super bad,
but maybe maybe I should.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So what I'm gonna do is I'm being serious like just
volunteer more.
I've been looking into the bestbuddies, which is, uh what tom
brady did special olympics, thattype of thing.
Just to meet people in reallife versus.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I can't stand the virtual yeah, I mean, even as a
guy, I struggle with it.
Personally I struggle with ittoo because I I truly think it
ultimately to edit to a degree.
It is another form of socialmedia and I do wonder if a lot
of people are on it.
I mean, how many dating apps doyou go through with a profile?
The bio is just the person'sInsta all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So I do wonder if, for a matter of it, it is a
slight bit of attention seekingwhere men and women like not
just women, but men and women,absolutely Are just looking to
see, like, how many likes theycan acquire without actually
like, like, or even peopletrying to reach into your DMs
and stuff, like it's nodifferent.
(14:36):
Um, but I definitely think thevolunteer route is a good idea.
That was something on my agendafor 2025 as my own personal
resolution is just to try andget not even, uh, volunteering
to be a good person, but just ingeneral, just to maybe meet
somebody because it can be atwo-for-one, it can have
multiple uses.
(14:57):
Exactly so I mean the benefit isthere is something a little bit
out of it for me, but alsohopefully the good news is you
also put something back out intothe community as well.
Exactly my big thing was Iwanted to do an animal shelter,
yeah.
So I mean I don't want to do itright now because it's dead of
winter and I'm not walking afucking dog in eight degree
weather.
I mean it's fucking colder thana witch's tit outside.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, some of these facilities, some of these animal
shelters have indoor facilities.
So you may not know.
I don't know how the local oneworks.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean honestly, maybe dosomething, Maybe I do do it now,
and that way it's just like oh,you don't have to take them for
walks, but you can play withthem Like dog.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
yes, everybody and that has more mental health
impact for you, because justpetting a dog like reduces
stress.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's incredible yeah, but I mean you could also just
look at a pair of titties thoseare a bit more uh, a bit harder
to get no, that's a legit stat,though, like if men um either
see or touch titties.
Apparently it can decreaseanxiety in one way or another.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Something about it.
Where was that research?
Where can I volunteer for thisstudy group?
I'll look it up.
Hang on.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Alright, After a quick little Google research
here, I found something fromVanguard.
No joke, Quote unquote.
I'm going to Hang on.
The study, which was carriedout over a period of five years,
involves 500 men, half of whomwere instructed to stare at
women's breasts in a lustfulmanner for no less than 10
minutes every day In a lustfulmanner.
(16:25):
The other half were instructedto abstain from doing such, Did
they?
I wouldn't be able to Dude.
I got a friggin' naked womanjust in the room.
You expect me not to look?
Give me a break.
Just in the room.
You expect me not to look.
Give me a break.
It concluded that men whostared at breasts more often
showed lower rates of heartproblems, slower resting heart
rate and lower blood pressure,all of which enable a healthy
(16:47):
living and long life.
The study said men should stareat breasts for 10 minutes a day
to improve the wellness oftheir hearts and live longer.
But if you're gay, does thattranslate to man titties?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So, ladies, if you catch me gawking, it's not
because I'm a creep, it'sbecause I value my health, it's
for my health what I'm notallowed to live longer.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Come on, I mean the research says I should.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
It's a science.
You can't debate the science.
We are not science deniers overhere.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
No way, Dude.
Honestly, you could run forpresident on that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Everybody's staring titties, climate change and
titties.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh man, All right, but wait.
In other news, how excited areyou that the Patriots hired Mike
Vrabel to be their head coach?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
excited are you that the Patriots hired Mike Vrabel
to be their head coach?
Not only am I ecstatic thatthey hired Mike Vrabel, who's a
highly intelligent guy, has hadsuccess in the league.
They didn't waste any time.
They didn't interview thiscoordinator that coordinator.
They did interview a coupleguys, but but right away, the
season's still going on.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean they interviewed a couple guys, but
honestly there's a little bit ofcontroversy with it because I
think they did it just to adhereto the Rooney rule.
Oh, you're talking about theother interviews, yeah there
were a couple coordinators thatthey hired who were minority,
and it was literally just due tothe Rooney rule.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But at the end of the day I think they got the right
guy.
A he's a culture builder,absolutely.
We've got to be completelyobjective on this the culture.
When Bill Belichick left he'sthe greatest coach of all time
it was a bit in shambles, ohyeah, and now I think Mike
Vrabel will repair that for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Part of that makes me wonder how much of that was
Bill and how much of that wasjust Mac Jones.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
being Mac Jones, like Mac, much of that was bill, and
how much of that was just macjones being mac jones, like mac
baby jones.
Yeah, mac can't play.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I think we're seeing that now, I still swear to god I
think I could throw a ballfarther than that guy could this
summer we're gonna do that allright, we'll test it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Just gonna do, uh, 50 curls a day just pump up your
arm.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
No, it's not even just a matter of like building
up, it's all in the hips yougotta do the tb.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You got to be completely dedicated for six
months, no, but seriously, Ithink it's all about.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It's more about the mechanics than it is your
strength.
I mean strength comes into apart of it, but it's a lot in
same with golf, like you couldbe the biggest guy, but if your
mechanics aren't good, thatball's going nowhere.
So I mean look at BakerMayfield in comparison to Josh
Allen.
Josh Allen is what?
6'5", 230?
(19:21):
Like the dude's a beast.
Look at Baker he's like what?
6'1"?
And he's like 210?
And Baker throws a 60-yard ball.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, I mean all these guys got candidates.
But just circling back toBelichick, I think he was a
victim of hubris.
I mean Brady left because ofBill and we know about the draft
.
I think it was a little bitmore than that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I think it was a matter of also because Brady, I
think, wanted to stay because heloved the Kraft family.
That's also because Bradywasn't the one giving Kraft a
massage, Ayo.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, can I just say Robert Kraft has the best PR
team in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Well, even in the roast, Jeff Ross makes a joke.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Don't talk about that and Brady went right up right
away.
So you know that's the line.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Something, something happened.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
You can talk about my ex-wife all you want, but not
Robert Kraft's sex ring.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I don't know, man, there's something happened with
that, but he was a great owner.
Man that there's somethinghappened with that, but, um, but
he was a great owner, he, um,but no, I think there was other
things with that Cause.
Um, it wasn't just the BradyBelichick thing, I think it was
also Brady wanted to stay, butBrady just didn't have the
weapons and Belichick is anotoriously bad drafter.
So I think at the end of theday it also came down to the
(20:39):
cash that Brady knew he wasworth.
And Brady was like yo, ifyou're not going to pay me, at
least get me a guy who you'rewilling to pay to help, like,
get me a weapon here.
And Belichick was just like,well, no, I don't want to pay
you.
Because at that point it's alsolike well, you've been taking
cuts, why now, all of a sudden,do you want to get paid?
And it's like, I don't know,maybe because I won you fucking
six rings here, buddy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, exactly, and it was there's, you're right, A
lot of a lot of factors.
Belichick was upset with theGaroppolo trade because, Kraft
got involved, and that was Brady.
Brady wanted Garoppolo out.
In hindsight, Brady was rightBecause Garoppolo's not that
good, no, right, yeah, scrappleis not that good no, he's not.
(21:18):
But I'm just really lookingforward to a new era, new blood
and, I think, mike rabel isgoing to do a great job.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I think I mean rabel brings the tennessee titans,
made them the number one seedwith ryan tannahill at the helm.
I mean grand, you also haveprime derrick henry, but you
also had aj brown that offenseunder.
I mean freaking ryan tannah.
It was looking like a bust onMiami.
He goes over to the Titans,better coaching and all of a
(21:43):
sudden now he's making a ProBowl.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
And the AFC too.
The Bills with Josh Allen, theChiefs with Patrick Mahomes
that's a feat.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Josh Allen technically wasn't Josh Allen
because everybody slept on him.
Yeah, he was pretty young.
His first season he threw 56%of his passes and people were
just like, oh, this guy's notgoing to pan out.
But then you look at a guy likeTrevor Lawrence who throws the
most amount of interceptions andeverybody's like, oh well, like
Peyton Manning also had a shitton of interceptions his rookie
(22:11):
season, Like let's see how thispans out.
And Trevor Lawrence, you canadmit to this, I told you this
when he came in.
Yeah, everybody said, oh, it'slike the payton manning effect.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I was like no, he's not gonna pan out mike has been
on the trevor lawrence sucksbandwagon for several years and
just because he was so dominantin college he's a historically
great.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
He went number one overall for a reason and he's
got all the physical tools.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
but you, you're right , he is just not produced, look.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback.
There are quarterbacks that Iwould not take Top 15.
He's top 15, but that's mid.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
There's only 32 teams in the league and they just
signed him $200 million fullyguaranteed.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
They're going to rename his stadium after this
guy.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
They're just so desperate.
They, they're just so desperate.
They're like please, anyonewho's somewhat decent.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
No, I think Trevor is a good talent.
I just don't think he's A-pluscaliber level.
I don't think he's worth the$230 million contract.
No way, I mean, there are worsethings.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Deshaun Watson, easily the worst situation in
the league Honestly probably oneof the biggest falls from
graces I've ever seen, besidesAntonio Brown.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
A video surfaced of him his rookie year.
He's like giving out his checksto the lunch ladies, like he's
this community oriented guy, andthen boom, 25 women.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
No, he wasn't handing them checks because he was a
great guy.
He was handing them checks tobe fucking quiet.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No, no, no, they were lunch, ladies.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Oh, you think quiet?
No, no, no, they were lunchladies, oh you think he?
No, it's legit you think hisdick has any bounds.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's legit that motherfucker, it's legit.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I hate this fucking guy, I really do.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I don't know why he's still allowed to play.
That's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Because the Browns do what the fucking Browns do.
No, that's the league.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That comes down to the league's decision.
You have this predator on thefield and that's disgraceful.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'm so happy.
Honestly, I'm just going tocome out and say it I'm so glad
that this guy's not playing in2025 because somehow, somewhere,
I saw something that hesuffered an ACL injury.
I don't know if this was duringthe season, but it just came
out a week ago and I'm just like, oh great, I don't have to see
this fucking guy in 2025.
I'm happy to do it.
People getting pissed off thatthe fans were cheering when he
(24:23):
went down.
What the fuck else do youexpect them to do?
The guy sucks.
He's a fucking rapist.
Yes, why is he allowed to toucha fucking field?
Why is he allowed to be 100yards within a fucking stadium?
Every fucking stadium shouldhave a restraining order on this
guy.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's disgraceful.
And then Tom Brady isrelatively aware that the balls
are deflated and they.
That's like a media circus.
He went to the court.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
The NFL has always had disciplinary problems, but
this is like top of the game.
Make it make sense, ray.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Rice gets into trouble for beating the shit out
of his girlfriend in anelevator Not direct cold, but
trouble for beating the shit outof his girlfriend in an
elevator.
But then she comes out and saysoh no, it's okay.
Whatever which it's not okay, Idon't give a fuck what anybody
says.
But the league still ousted himlike that was that, never even
went to trial, like nothinghappened.
But the league themselves arelike we're not dealing with this
(25:11):
.
Meanwhile the sean watson howfucking bill cosby of the nfl,
bill Cosby?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
of the.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
NFL and the Browns are just like 265 up front
Guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
No, I think it's a fully guaranteed contract.
Is it fully guaranteed?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, so what happened was when they traded
him from the Texans, they rippedup his Texans contract, gave
him a brand new deal, fullyguaranteed, and it totally
upended the contracts why?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
because they knew that he would need money to pay
out these women like Jesus.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Christ, because Jimmy Haslam is the worst owner in
NFL football now that Dan Snyderis gone.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
He's the worst owner.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Oh my god, and I feel bad because Browns fans, they
love their team, they lovefootball and now they have to
suffer through this terribletime and baker's killing it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Like how does that make you?
Look?
You sign this fucking guy to xamount of money to suck, not
even play two full seasons.
He's played one season in twoseasons because he's only played
eight games every year thathe's been on this fucking team,
yeah, and can't play, and hecan't play anymore.
Meanwhile, baker's down intampa, the playoffs, making the
playoffs, killing itBack-to-back years.
(26:19):
It's unreal.
I'll take Baker over TrevorLawrence right now.
I would take Baker over DeshaunWatson, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You'd take some backups over Deshaun Watson, for
sure.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Oh yeah, I mean, I would definitely take Joe Flacco
over Deshaun Watson, eventhough he's 41.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I don't care, he still has a cannon.
He still has a cannon.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Hey, he brought the Browns to the playoffs.
That was the whole reason theydidn't get rid of him, because
that was a quarterbackcontroversy.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Besides the fans, I really feel for kevin stephansky
because he's really a top, anelite coach I know he's working
with.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
He's like what do I have to work?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
yeah, I feel bad, but he's gonna get blamed, he's
gonna get fired right, eventhough it's jimmy haslam who
wanted this trade, wanted thiscontract, even though they
traded for him and signed tothat contract when they knew
these allegations were comingout.
Just a horrible, horrible owner.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I just can't.
Your name is the Browns.
You have a shitty name.
It makes sense that you guys—.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Get a logo man.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Another guy I think should be fired just to kind of
deviate off of this.
I still think Sean McDermottshould be fired.
Dude, we were watching thatgame today.
You're up by three scores.
In the fourth quarter you stillgot Josh Allen playing and he's
throwing the ball.
You got five minutes lefttaking hits.
Why are you making this guythrow the ball?
You got a big game coming upnext week, the fuck.
(27:43):
This is why Sean McDermott, youcan say he's a great coach.
He's made the playoffs, hasn'tbeaten the Chiefs in the
playoffs.
He's a great coach.
He's made the playoffs, hasn'tbeaten the Chiefs in the
playoffs.
He's kind of like Andy Reid onthe Eagles.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
He just can't get over that hump.
Andy Reid went to five straightNFC championships with Donovan
McNabb.
True, that's elite, but Iunderstand where you're coming
from and it's not hisquarterback.
His quarterback's one of thebest in the league.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Exactly, it's him, it's his defense.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
It collapses.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But it's shit like that where I'm just like why are
you not just running the ball?
You got James Cook, who'salready got.
He almost had I think theyscrambled for 182 yards at that
point in the game.
You got James Cook.
I think he's a top running backright now.
Why wouldn't you just run outthe ball, eat up the clock, make
the team use their timeouts?
You're down three scores.
(28:31):
They're not coming back.
There's no way.
I completely agree and not tototally deviate, but it reminds
me because we were also talkingabout this earlier.
It's like how many guys?
Because we're talking aboutMike Tomlin, and if the Steelers
should move off of him, how doyou move off of a guy that's had
what?
15 straight or winning seasons,never had a losing season.
(28:51):
He's gone eight and eight a fewtimes.
And I mean there's a couplegames the last couple seasons.
I mean you're playing mitchtrubitsky, you still get over
500 wins.
Can he pick it?
Can he pick it like um, how doyou move off of that?
And I just don't think thatmike tomlin is actually the
problem.
And you could argue oh well, hedoesn't really have the
(29:12):
postseason success.
It's like how many Super Bowlswould the Steelers have won with
Big Ben?
Or how many Super Bowls wouldPeyton Manning have won if Brady
was not in the league?
Because Brady ruined a lot,like he cut a lot of playoff
appearances short.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's like Tiger Woods in golf or Michael Jordan in
basketball Charles Barkley wouldhave a ring, Karl Malone would
have a ring if it weren't forMichael Jordan.
So yeah, Tom Brady has thateffect.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Reggie Miller would probably have a ring.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Reggie Miller for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I mean Reggie Miller, probably the greatest player of
all time without a ring in theNBA.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
No, it's got to be Charles Barkley.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He has an MVP, so yeah, reggie doesn't have an MVP
.
Oh then, never mind, I retractthat.
I know nothing about NBA ball,so there's that.
Yeah, no, I am looking forwardto the Patriots, though.
Moving on to next season.
We got our guy, we got ourcoach.
It's just going to depend onwho they get for OC and DC.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But those are the building blocks.
That's the foundation.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
T Higgins coming off a free agency, hopefully.
I mean the Patriots got a lotof cap money they can use.
Pay a guy, build your O-linewith the draft, see what happens
.
I think I thought it was goingto be at least 10 years before
the Pats were back in it.
But we get a decent widereceiver, we fix this O-line, we
get some competent coaches,we'll be back in there within
(30:32):
three.
Yeah, easy, I'm very optimistic.
All right, and with that littlenote of optimism, thanks for
popping by, ethan.
I really appreciated you comingon.
Always a pleasure seeing you.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Thank you for having me, mike, and I know this is
going to be episode 52.
And I just want to say howproud I am of you for sticking
through this.
I'm very proud to be yourfriend.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Oh, I got to be honest, I was not expecting that
, but thanks, man, I alsoappreciate being your friend too
.
All right guys.
Thank you for listening to thisepisode.
If you guys enjoyed it, pleaseshare it with a friend, like,
comment, subscribe.
You guys know the deal.
If you want to reach out, feelfree to send me an email at
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(31:09):
Thank you.
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