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Mike (00:10):
Alright, so you guys ever
start spiraling at 2am based on
a headline that you saw, but youdidn't really dig into the
context, cause same.
I saw this article aboutscientists bringing back
direwolves.
Yeah, like actual, real lifedire wolves.
These things went extinct aboutwhat?
13,000 years ago and nowthey're back walking around like
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it's no big deal.
These things aren't even purered wolves, they're stitched
together, apex nightmares andwe're just calling it progress.
Because if perfection's the goal, I don't think that bringing
back dire wolves with attitudeproblems was really the way to
go, because, from what I did see, these wolves are just super
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standoffish and they don'treally engage with their
handlers, which like, yeah, noshit, you didn't fucking
resurrect Lassie.
These things would bite thehand that feeds them and then
gnaw off the rest of their armjust because they can.
Now look, I get it.
Dogs were domesticated fromgray wolves, but these dire
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wolves aren't even that.
They're basically justbioengineered nightmares,
because they took the DNA fromthe skulls or the teeth that
they found from these animalsand then they used a certain
type of dog to hold the embryothat they created.
So I don't even know what theplan is here.
And I've seen Jurassic Park andI'm good, like have those movies
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not taught us anything?
And sure, maybe this makessense for recently extinct
animals or endangered species,but what's the point of bringing
back an animal that wentextinct like thousands of years
ago, like I've seen that they'vebeen trying to do this with the
mammoth for how many years now?
And it's like dude.
That's why we have elephants,like that's what a mammoth
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evolved into.
It's not like apple'sre-releasing the ipod nano every
freaking year.
I mean, there's a reason why wemoved on.
Things die off.
That's just how nature works.
But yo real talk, if Apple diddrop the Nano again, let's not
pretend like we all wouldn'tfreak out for a second.
Well, you would feel thatnostalgia hit Like yo I'm about
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to throw on some Three DaysGrace and feel what I felt the
first time that I could feel.
But give it a week.
You'll be sitting there likewhy did I drop $200 on a shiny
paperweight that can't evenstream?
So that's what the mammoth willbe.
It'll just be a big walkingnovelty, a big hairy reminder
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that just because we can bringsomething back doesn't mean that
we necessarily should.
And dire wolves already are.
They're out there now, confusedas hell, like why the fuck is
it so hot and why the fuck isthe air so spicy?
Unless something went extinctstrictly because of humans
bulldozing their appetites justto build another dunkin donuts,
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maybe.
Let it stay gone.
We're already taking up toomuch space as is.
I don't even want half youfuckers breathing near me in a
bar.
You think animals want all 7trillion of us stomping through
their forests and who knows whatwe're about to ruin by bringing
back animals that naturallywent extinct.
From what I did look up,direwolves ultimately went
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extinct due to the complicationsof the ice age, unlike gray
wolves, which were the animalsthat humans did domesticate into
dogs, because those wolves weresmart enough to realize that
humans could help them get food.
So they were like, hey, fuck it.
You know what, if you can'tbeat them, join them, which is
also pretty much the slogan ofevery modern mba team right now.
But humans also then started tohand pick the wolves based on
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cuteness and aggression levels,kind of like how I choose my
girlfriends.
But now we're gonna bring theseunsolicited animals back into
an environment that theycouldn't last in initially and
is now 90% pavement and vapesmoke like.
What do we think is gonna happenhere?
You think these things arebuilt for, a society where
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people film themselves crying intheir cars, where even your dog
looks at you in those videos,like jesus.
I didn't see these red flags onpickup day, like, oh my gosh,
all we do is show up, make noiseand just ruin everything.
And these things are all true.
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And it just sent me down thisweird ass rabbit hole, like I
started thinking how long untilwe stop bringing back wolves and
start using this technology oneach other to start making
clones, or, worse, we startusing this technology to create
the quote-unquote perfect human,like we already have stem cells
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, regenerating organs and limbs.
And why, like, yeah, sure,nobody wants to be called stumpy
, but science can go too farwith what its goal is when it
comes to bioengineering humans,which, to me, is just another
way for us to try and livelonger.
And that's what also got methinking what is it that we're
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so afraid of, as to why we evenwant to live longer?
And look, I'm not saying thatdeath is not a totally
irrational fear to have.
I think death is a completelyrational fear to have, but I
don't think that's it.
I don't think we're afraid ofdeath's impact.
I think it's more the worry ofwhat comes after.
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Like, even with thesedirewolves, we have no idea what
impact this is going to have onin the future.
Like if we let these thingsloose in the wild.
I just don't see caesar milanjust being able to go and make
it out of this darwinisticnightmare, or worse, like what
if nothing happens after this?
Like what if we do all of thisand there are no consequences?
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Life moves on as normal.
It's just another thing runningaround in the ether of what is
this world?
Like what if life is justlights out and silence forever?
But even with me, what if thereis something and then I get up
there and God's just like youknow what, sorry bro.
Like way too many dick jokes.
Well, like what about all theother shit that I did?
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That was good, huh, you're justgoing to count all that out.
You know, if you're so perfectand I'm made in your image, then
why did you make me such a fuckup?
But maybe that's also why wetry to chase immortality, not
because we want to live longer,but because we're trying to
perfect what we think is broken.
Like our lives suck.
So what is it that we can do tomake it somewhat better.
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God gave us the puzzle pieces.
So how do we fix the imperfect?
Which, in a weird way I low-keyfeel like, is us telling God
that we know how to do his job alittle bit better than he does?
I mean, imagine telling yourboss you know a better way to
handle something.
50-50 shot, it works out andyou don't leave with a box in
your hands.
But you know what?
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Maybe the dire wolves thing isfixing an imperfection that we
don't know about.
Maybe it wasn't aboutenvironmental factors that took
out these animals and bringingthem back is actually us doing
it justice.
Maybe they'll learn how toadapt and maybe they'll be able
to create a new balance withinthe ecosystem.
Or maybe it'll all just bedetrimental and everything's
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gonna go to hell.
I don't fucking know.
It all just be detrimental andeverything's gonna go to hell.
I don't fucking know.
But with the things that wechoose to believe, do and follow
, it also has its purpose toeither improve or enhance the
imperfection within us.
And that's coming from me, bro.
I had a whole pod episode aboutdating profiles not giving full
body shots, so I know what I'dbe walking into when I got to
the restaurant, like I know whatmy imperfections are, and we
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can start with my vanity issues,but also when you're at the
buffet, you go for what youreally want.
I don't know what to tell you,but either it's science or it's
religion.
Human either evolved a certainway to not regenerate or God
made us so in that way for areason Like notice how science
looks to perfect, or ask can wedo this or is this possible?
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But unless I just suck atreading, can somebody please
explain why certain creatures,biologically, are able to do
things that others can't Like?
Why are lobsters biologicallyimmortal and why can a reptile
regenerate its leg or its paw orwhatever the fuck, but yet for
some other reason, other speciesand animals don't have that
ability Like why is it that someanimals have superpowers and
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other animals don't?
Explain to me that in theevolution process of humans, how
is it that the only thing thatwe get multiple sets of are
teeth, and you know what?
Maybe that's why we stay stuckin life too.
We get comfortable knowing whatwe have and that we don't need
to learn to adapt for ourselves,but we can adapt through the
use of others, and I think it'staking less out of the fear of
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the unknown.
But all right, let me ask youthis if we could resurrect
things, if we could regenerateour bodies, then why do we also
have incurable diseases?
Like maybe that's the payoffbecause some people did some
pretty ungodly shit for some ofthese stds to be coming out, and
a lot of them are animal based.
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But I think that's also to askourselves, like who would we be
without a certain level of fear?
And maybe that fear is also amatter of like, hey, fuck around
and find out.
I think it's an importantquestion to ask ourselves.
Like who would we all bewithout a certain level of fear,
whatever it is that's going onin your life, either external or
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internal, and maybe that's whygod gave me an opportunity to
play rugby.
For a reason, like you have toface your fears of getting hit
or making a hit, not reallyknowing what's going to happen.
And dude, that's just fuckinglife.
It's the ability to not justsay, alright, I am just a
fragile piece of meat pretendingto be tough.
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I legit am tough, and beingadaptable is also being able to
improve, right.
So even in comparison from lastweek's game, where I didn't
touch the ball at all, to thisweek's game, I thought that I
had a play where I had a prettygood run and I bodied this dude,
but in reality I ended up beingso far out of bounds and I
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ended up giving the guy a latehit.
So to whoever that was on thatteam, dude, I am so sorry.
I just need more awareness ingeneral.
And it's really amazing whatperception is versus reality,
because in the play I was like,oh shit, I'm a boss right now.
Then I went back and looked atthe tape.
I'm like Dude, none of this wasgood, but don't worry, I got
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mine too.
Like I got hit at the end ofthe play.
But my dumb ass thought that Igot hit out of bounds.
Not that I was already thereStory of my life but somewhere
in that hit, in that moment ofembarrassment and clarity, I
started thinking about the ideaof getting hit or being able to
make one, about the idea ofgetting hit or being able to
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make one, and whether it's inrugby or life or whatever, hits,
just equal pain, whether it'sphysical, emotional, whatever
pain goes away, but the struggledoesn't, and it's the struggle
of what you're going through inthat moment that either makes
you a boss, makes you a bitch,or makes you a boss ass bitch,
because there is nothing in lifethat will make you adapt faster
than struggle like.
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I had this thought about mygrandmother, who ended up being
in a wheelchair towards the endof her life, and with my knee
especially as of the past coupleyears it's been somewhat of an
issue, and my grandmother alsohad knee issues, so growing up I
never really empathized withher, but with my own aching
joints now I'm starting to kindof understand the pain or
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suffering that was one of themajor hits of her life and I
started to feel myself wonderingwhat my future will also be
able to hold physically.
I mean, I'm still going to dorugby and get my exercise in
until I can't, but that's myproblem.
I mean, what's it going to do?
Break me more than I am.
I already don't have healthinsurance anyways, so I'm going
to just fucking send it, luigi.
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But I had this moment where Iactually felt like I owed my
grandmother something and then Ifelt like I owed her an apology
Because I had this thought thatlife is kind of like AA you
can't really make peace withyourself until you make it with
others first.
Even if it's just praying to aloved one that's no longer here
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and just saying you know what?
I'm sorry that I didn't get itbefore.
I do now and I'll try and carrythat a little bit better.
And being able to reflect ishow I feel that we can all learn
to grow to better understandthe imperfections within
ourselves, and maybe that's whatbeing able to take hits and
having suffering does.
It kind of gives you access toother people's stories, like
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maybe it cracks something openwithin you and it makes room for
understanding standing.
You know, just recently I'vebeen asking the God for signs on
what I should be doing and arethe choices that I'm making and
is what I'm thinking of doingsending me down the paths that
you have in mind for me, andjust wondering if anything on
the pod that I've also said isworth a damn.
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And all of a sudden, I got acomment from somebody named
Tristan Women do actually likeme, but she commented on episode
60, which is, I think, my wholething about LinkedIn and
funerals and stuff and shecommented saying, okay, wow,
crazy timing because I lost mydad recently.
But you have solid points.
Thanks for making me laughthrough the grief, all right.
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Well, first of all, tristan, Iam so sorry to hear that about
your father.
I haven't personally lost aparent.
I have some friends who havelost parents.
I definitely know it's not aneasy process to be going through
.
So I hope that you and yourfamily are all doing okay.
But to not also be selfish,like thank you for the comment,
because I'm glad that thispodcast gave you a moment of
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laughter at an otherwiseunjoyous time that you're going
through, and I'm glad that I wasable to actually help you
through the process, even if itwas just a little bit.
And it's times like this fromwhat I've also learned from
rugby, as if I fucking know whatI'm talking about.
I've only been doing this for amonth, but I just kind of
realized that I start tohesitate when I'm going to make
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a hit.
When I have the ball, I have nofear of just plowing through
people, but when somebody'srunning at me it's a little bit
more of like a oh shit kind ofcam newton in the super bowl
fumble moment.
Like I just pull up, Ioverthink it, I get stuck in my
head like what if I go full send?
I just get juked.
Or what if I still go send?
I just get juked, or what if Istill go low and I'm the one
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that ends up looking like anidiot on my back?
Like that hesitation, it's notthe fear of impact, honestly,
it's more the fear of failure.
Like it's a fear that I'm noteven good enough to probably
even try.
But maybe that's the point,because adaptation isn't about
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being fearless, it's aboutshowing up anyway.
It's about trying to live in aworld that you weren't built for
and trying to figure it out onehit at a time.
Like that's what the direwolves are doing.
They were extinct for what?
13,000 years and now they'reback in a world full of vape
clouds and Uber Eats, andthey're just still figuring out
how to exist, same as the restof us.
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And maybe that's what pain does.
It forces you to adapt.
When I felt my knees startingto go, when I thought about my
grandmother being wheelchairbound, I finally started to
understand her struggle.
That pain cracked somethingopen.
It gave me access to somebodyelse's story.
That's what adapting really is.
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It's learning how to hit betterand, in the process,
understanding how others carrytheir hits.
And, tristan, your commentreminded me of that that even
when this podcast feels like I'myelling out into the void, I
might actually be helpingsomebody else adapt too.
So even when you're not sure ifanything's working, even when
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you're limping through it, youjust make the hit you commit.
It won't be perfect, it mightcome back and hit you harder,
but then you just get up and youstay in the game.
That's why I do this.
I don't do this to be perfect.
I don't have the answers, but Itry to adapt out loud, I try to
laugh at the mess, I try to askthe dumb questions and take the
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imperfect swings and maybe helpsomebody else take theirs.
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All right, thank you all.
So much for listening and wewill catch up next week.
Thank you.