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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you're a local
business, well, you know it's
tough out there.
You know trying to get thosecustomers in the door.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, it's super
competitive these days, isn't it
?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It really is, and you
know everyone's looking for an
edge.
You know something to reallyboost their visibility.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
For sure.
And when it comes to localvisibility, you know what's the
first thing that comes to mind.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Well, I mean, it's
Google Maps, right.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Google Maps Exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Well, I mean, it's
Google Maps, right, google Maps,
exactly that's where everyone'sgoing to find a plumber, a
restaurant, a shop, whateverthey need.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, I mean think
about it.
When you need something local,where's the first place you turn
to?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Google Maps every
time.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Exactly.
And for businesses, they knowthey need to be on there.
But just being listed isn'tenough.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Right, you see so
many businesses.
They're putting in the work.
You know they're updating theirGoogle business profile,
they're posting, they'reuploading photos, they're
chasing those reviews, but arethey actually seeing results?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's the big
question, right.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's the million
dollar question, because you can
be busy, you know you can bedoing all these things.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, you can be busy
, but are you actually effective
?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Are you actually
moving the needle and that's
what we're going to talk abouttoday, right?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That's what we're
diving into, because it's like
you know, working out withouttracking your progress.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, good analogy.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
You might feel like
you're doing something, but you
have no idea if you're actuallygetting stronger.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Exactly, and your GPP
.
It deserves the same level ofyou know, measurement and
attention.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Absolutely so.
Today we're going to providesome clarity.
You know we're going to breakdown how to actually measure
your GBP performance so you canstop guessing and start making
you know real progress.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, data driven
decisions.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Exactly Data driven
decisions.
So we're going to cover threekey areas, ok.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Sounds good.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
First we'll talk
about you know what's a
realistic time frame to seeresults on Google Maps.
Then we'll look at why some ofthose common metrics in your GBP
dashboard those can be kind ofmisleading.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, vanity metrics,
we'll dive into that.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Exactly, and what you
should really be focusing on
instead.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
The real deal.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And finally, we'll
talk about why monthly reporting
is so important.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You know keep
yourself on track.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Keep yourself on
track.
Make sure you're moving in theright direction.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Love it, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
All right, so let's
jump right in.
You know, the first thing wesee a lot of businesses doing is
they expect instant results.
They make a change to their GBPand they're checking their
ranking like the next day.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Instant gratification
.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Exactly.
And then they're disappointedwhen nothing's changed.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But it's not like
that, is it?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's not like that at
all.
Google's algorithm.
You know it takes time to youknow process information to
figure out where you sit in it'sa complex system right.
It's a complex system.
They're looking at all sorts offactors.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Signals and all that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Exactly, and so you
know.
That's why we always emphasizethis 90 day minimum, you know,
to really assess the impact ofyour efforts.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
OK, 90 days.
Why is that so important?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, for one thing,
you know local rankings.
They can fluctuate quite a bitin the short term.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
They can jump around,
can't they?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They jump around all
the time.
So you know, if you're onlylooking at a week or two of data
, it's easy to get the wrongidea.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You might see a
little spike and think, oh, I've
made it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Exactly, or a dip,
and you think, oh no,
everything's falling apart.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, got to look at
the bigger picture.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
The 90 days gives you
that bigger picture.
You know, you can see thetrends, you can see the patterns
.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Okay, makes sense.
So it's about seeing thoselong-term trends, not just the
little blips.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Exactly, and the
other thing is Google.
You know they like to seeconsistency.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Trust.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, they need to
trust your information.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Especially if you've,
you know, had some issues in
the past.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Right If you've had a
suspension or you've made, you
know, some drastic changes.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
They want to make
sure you're legit.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
They want to make
sure you're legit, that you're
here to stay, so that 90 days ofconsistent activity that builds
trust.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Signals to Google
that you're serious about your
business.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Exactly.
And of course, we can't forgetabout the competition.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh yeah, the other
players in the game.
They're not sitting.
Still Always trying to one upeach other.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Exactly so.
It takes time to you know, tooutrank them to to get that
visibility.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
The local search.
Landscape is always shifting.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Always shifting.
So you know that 90 day period.
It gives you a chance to seehow things are moving see where
the opportunities are.
And adjust your strategy.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Adapt.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Adapt Exactly All
right.
So let's say you're a businessowner, you're just starting out
with your GBP.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Okay, branding.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Or you're making some
big changes.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
What should they be
doing in those first 90 days?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
What are the
priorities?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Priorities.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
First and foremost,
consistency is key.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Consistency.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, you know, you
want to be making regular
updates to your GBP.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
How often are we
talking?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Ideally weekly.
You know, share some posts,upload some photos.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Fresh content.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Fresh content, you
know, encourage those customer
reviews.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Keep things active.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Keep things active.
Show Google that you're aliveand kicking.
I like it.
You're alive and kicking, Ilike it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
What else?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And the other thing
is don't over-optimize.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh yeah, I've seen
people do that.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's tempting.
You know you want to tweakevery little thing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They're in there
every day changing things.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But that can actually
backfire.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Confuses Google.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Confuses Google.
They don't know what to make ofit.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So pick a strategy
and stick with it.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Exactly For that
90-day period.
You know, give it time tobreathe.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Okay, makes sense.
So consistency, no,over-optimizing anything else.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, you mentioned
tracking some data points early
on.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh yeah, got to
measure, got to measure.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
What should
businesses be keeping an eye on?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So even in those
early stages, start taking what
we call ranking snapshots.
Ranking snapshots Okay,basically, you're checking where
your business appears on GoogleMaps.
For your main keywords, foryour main keywords, for your
main keywords Exactly, you know,in your service area.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
So I'm a plumber in a
certain city, yeah.
I'm going to check where I rankfor plumber in that city.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Exactly, and you can
do this manually, you know, just
search and see, or you can usea tool.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
There are tools for
this.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh yeah, Tons of
tools out there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, and how often
should you be doing these
snapshots?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You know, weekly is a
good starting point, weekly
Okay.
So I get my baseline, you getyour baseline, and then you can
see how things change over time.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Okay, makes sense.
And you also mentioned trackingmap coverage data.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yes, this is
important.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
What is that exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So map coverage data.
It basically shows you howvisible you are across your
entire service area.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Okay, so not just in
one specific spot.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Not just right around
your business location.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But like the whole
city.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, the whole city
or wherever you serve customers.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And why is that so
important?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, because you
know you might rank really well
right near your shop, uh-huh,but a few miles away you might
be invisible.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh, I see.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So map coverage data,
it gives you that complete
picture.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It helps you identify
those gaps.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Exactly the blind
spots.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay.
So we've got consistentactivity, no over-optimizing and
tracking, those rankingsnapshots and map coverage.
That's a good plan for thefirst 90 days.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Solid foundation.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Now, what about
expectations?
You know, during this time,yeah, what's realistic.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
What's realistic?
Well, don't expect miraclesovernight.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Right, you're not
going to go from page two to the
map pack in a week.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
No, it takes time
Building that authority.
It takes time.
Seo is a long game.
It's a long game.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So be patient, focus
on those consistent actions
Trust the process.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Trust the process.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, so we've talked
about the timeframe.
Now let's talk about metrics.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay, the numbers.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
The numbers, because
everyone loves to see you know.
Website clicks, phone calls,direction requests.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh yeah, it feels
good, doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It feels good, it
feels like you're making
progress.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But are those numbers
telling the whole story?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's the question
Are they really giving us an
accurate picture of our GoogleMaps performance?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Sometimes yes,
sometimes no.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Sometimes no.
So what's the problem withthese metrics?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, we call them
vanity metrics sometimes.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Vanity metrics.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Because they can make
you feel good, but they might
not reflect actual improvementin your ranking.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh, I see.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So you might see a
jump in website clicks, but your
visibility on the map might nothave changed at all.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So what are some
things that can skew these
numbers?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, seasonality is
a big one.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Seasonality okay.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Like if you're an ice
cream shop, you're going to get
more traffic in the summer.
That doesn't mean your rankingsuddenly got better.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Right, it's just the
time of year, exactly, or?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
if you're running
Google Ads.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Those clicks and
calls.
They're coming from your ads.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Not from your organic
listing Exactly, so it can be
hard to separate the two.
You need to know what's comingfrom your paid efforts versus
your organic efforts.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Absolutely.
And then there are randomspikes, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Like what.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Maybe you got
mentioned in a blog post or
someone shared your business onsocial media.
You might see a temporary boost, but it's not sustainable.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So those vanity
metrics, they can be deceptive.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They can be a
distraction.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So what should we be
focusing on instead?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
We need to look at
what we call heat map visibility
.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Heat map visibility.
Okay, that sounds interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's basically a
visual representation of how you
rank for specific keywordsacross your entire service area.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Okay, so it's like a
map.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It is a map with
different colors showing your
ranking in different locations.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So I can see where I
rank number one, where I rank
number 10.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Exactly.
You get a much more detailedview than just an average
ranking.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So I might rank
really well in my neighborhood,
but a few miles away I might benowhere to be found.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Exactly that's what
the heat map shows you.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Those visibility gaps
.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The blind spots.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And that's crucial
information.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Absolutely, because
if you're not visible, you're
not getting those customers.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Right, so map
coverage.
It's directly tied to potentialcustomers.
Unlike those vanity metrics,Okay, so how do we track these
heat maps?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, there's some
great tools out there.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Like what.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Like RankGenius Local
Falcon.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh, okay, I've heard
of those.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
They allow you to run
these heat map audits for your
keywords.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So I can see my
ranking for plumber across my
entire city.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Exactly, and they'll
show you changes over time.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So I can see if my
visibility is improving or
declining Month over month.
So I can see if my visibilityis improving or declining.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Month over month.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And they can help me
identify specific areas where I
need to improve.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Zip codes
neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So it's all about
getting that granular view.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, forget those
fluffy numbers.
Focus on the map Focus on whereyou're actually showing up.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
That's where the real
opportunities are.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's where the
customers are.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
All right.
So we've talked about the timeframe, the metrics.
Now let's talk about reporting.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Okay, keeping track
of it all.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Keeping track of it
all, because why is it so
important to review this dataregularly?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, if you're not
tracking your progress, you're
basically flying blind.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You don't know what's
working.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You don't know what's
not working.
You're just guessing, and youmight be making changes that are
actually hurting you.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Oh, that's, scary.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It is, and remember,
google's algorithm is always
changing.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Always evolving.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Your competitors are
always making moves.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So you need to stay
on top of it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Monthly reporting is
like your GPS it keeps you on
course, exactly.
So what are the benefits ofmonthly reporting?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, for one thing,
you can identify trends over
time.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
See the big picture
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Is my visibility
improving overall or is it
declining?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Are those changes you
made actually having an impact?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Exactly, and then you
can measure real progress.
Not just random fluctuations,yeah, you know, are those
ranking snapshots moving in theright direction?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Is your map coverage
expanding?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And then you can make
informed decisions.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Data-driven decisions
.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Based on what the
data is telling you.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Not just your gut
feeling.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And of course you can
stay ahead of the competition.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, if you're not
tracking, they are.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
So monthly reporting
it's essential.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Now what should be
included in a good monthly
report.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well, the core of it
should be those heat map
comparisons.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, so I'm
comparing this month to last
month.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You want to see how
many zones you're ranking in.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Are those numbers
going up?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Are you seeing broad
improvement or is it just for a
few keywords?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Okay, heat maps got
it.
What else?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Review activity is
important.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Okay, those customer
reviews.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You want to track how
many you're getting Mm-hmm, but
also the keywords they're using.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And where those
reviewers are located.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So are they local
customers.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Local and relevant.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Because those reviews
carry more weight.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay reviews.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You want to track
your profile, updates and
content.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Okay, so how often am
I posting?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Are you adding new
photos, videos you can get fresh
, keeping it fresh, and then youcan see if those actions
correlate with any changes inyour ranking.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
So I can see what's
moving the needle.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Exactly Cause and
effect.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Okay and lastly,
Competitor analysis.
Keep an eye on the competition.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
See if anyone's
jumped ahead of you.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Or if there are any
new players in the game.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Exactly, stay
informed.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So monthly reporting,
it's all about understanding
what's working, what's not.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And using that data
to make better decisions.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So that you can
dominate your local market.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
That's the goal.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
All right.
So to wrap things up, you knowwe've talked about the
importance of that 90-day timeframe.
We've talked about thosemisleading metrics and the power
of heat map visibility.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And, of course, the
absolute necessity of monthly
reporting.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Monthly reporting.
It's your secret weapon it is,and the big takeaway here is
that just being busy with yourGBP it's not enough.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
No, you gotta be
strategic.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You gotta measure the
right things.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Data-driven.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Data-driven exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So you can actually
see those results, those
customers coming in the door.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Because Google Maps.
It's the front door to yourbusiness these days.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It is for local
businesses.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So don't just hope
for the best.
Take control, Take control.
Track your progress.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And dominate your
local market.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Exactly.
All right, that's all we've gotfor today.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Great stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
We hope you found
this helpful.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Super helpful.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Now go out there,
start measuring and start
winning.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Good luck everyone.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
We'll see you next.