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May 2, 2025 54 mins

In this episode, Craig McGrouther interviews Gerrit Van Maanen, co-founder of Playground and a key figure in the self-storage industry. He discusses the importance of retail capital in real estate, the challenges and opportunities in self-storage, and introduces his new venture focusing on garage condos. The conversation highlights the evolution of the self-storage market and the innovative approach Gerrit is taking with Playground.

Craig McGrouther and Gerrit Van Maanen delve into the intricacies of condo development, the importance of pre-sales in de-risking investments, and the unique challenges of navigating niche markets in real estate. They discuss their innovative approach to investment strategies, focusing on minimizing development risks for LPs, and outline their future plans for expansion into rental models.

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