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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Welcome to the deep
dive, where we turn your reading
list into, well, realunderstanding.
SPEAKER_00 (00:04):
Glad to be here.
SPEAKER_01 (00:05):
Today we're
exploring a really powerful
convergence.
Um, looking at the link betweenKundalini Awakening.
SPEAKER_00 (00:12):
Which is rooted in
ancient yogic tradition.
SPEAKER_01 (00:15):
Right.
And this more, I guess,contemporary phenomenon people
call light language.
And you shared some sourcematerial with us that's
fascinating.
It doesn't just define them, itinsists they often show up
together.
SPEAKER_00 (00:26):
They do.
And that's the mystery we'redigging into.
SPEAKER_01 (00:29):
So our focus today
is to really unpack why they
converge.
We'll look at how the physicalresults of Kundalini, you know,
the spontaneous movements, thegestures, are then interpreted
through these differentenergetic lenses.
SPEAKER_00 (00:41):
Aaron Powell From
the physical anchor to the most
abstract ideas of cosmiccommunication.
That's the journey.
SPEAKER_01 (00:47):
Okay, let's unpack
this.
Before we get to light codes andall that, we have to start with
the foundation.
SPEAKER_00 (00:51):
Kundalini.
SPEAKER_01 (00:52):
Exactly.
So for anyone just catching up,can you give us a clear
traditional yogic definition ofthis power?
SPEAKER_00 (00:59):
Aaron Powell Yeah,
of course.
It's uh essential to anchor theconversation in the physical
reality of kundalini first.
SPEAKER_01 (01:05):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
So yogic philosophy
describes it as this primordial
dormant energy.
It's coiled.
SPEAKER_01 (01:11):
The snake, right.
That's the classic image.
SPEAKER_00 (01:13):
That's the one.
Visualized as a snake justresting at the base of the
spine.
It basically represents thishuge reservoir of untacked
potential.
SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
Just waiting to be
activated.
SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
Precisely.
Yeah.
And when it awakens, themechanism is that this force
starts to rise up the centralenergy channel, the Sushamanati.
SPEAKER_01 (01:32):
And as it moves, it
hits the chakras.
SPEAKER_00 (01:34):
Yes.
And as it moves through thoseenergy centers, the sources
describe this profoundpurification.
It's designed to clear outdeeply ingrained blocks,
physical, emotional, you nameit.
SPEAKER_01 (01:45):
Triggering a massive
transformation.
SPEAKER_00 (01:46):
Aaron Powell A total
spiritual and physical rewiring.
SPEAKER_01 (01:49):
And the effects of
that, I mean, they're anything
but subtle.
The sources are very clear onthis.
It's an intensely physicalexperience.
SPEAKER_00 (01:55):
It's not a gentle
shift.
SPEAKER_01 (01:56):
No, not at all.
It's like an overwhelming bodilyprocess.
We see all these reports of hugeenergy surges or intense heat,
powerful vibrations runningthrough the body.
SPEAKER_00 (02:07):
That tingling up the
spine is a classic one.
SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
And also those
sudden, really dramatic
emotional releases.
It feels like the body's beingrewired under high voltage, you
know.
SPEAKER_00 (02:16):
That's a great way
to put it.
And if you look at that list ofsymptoms, one in particular
really stands out when we starttalking about communication.
Which is the spontaneousmovement.
They're often called creas.
SPEAKER_01 (02:26):
Ah, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (02:27):
This spontaneous
expression, it could be shaking,
strange yoga poses, involuntarysounds.
That's the first real clueconnecting the internal energy
of Kundalini to an externalstate like light language.
SPEAKER_01 (02:41):
Because the energy
is so intense, it demands an
outlet.
SPEAKER_00 (02:44):
An immediate
physical outlet, exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (02:46):
That makes perfect
sense.
The body is the engine, and thatenergy has to go somewhere.
So if Kundalini is the engine,this whole process and light
language is this channeled formof communication.
SPEAKER_00 (02:56):
With sounds,
symbols, gestures.
SPEAKER_01 (02:59):
Yeah.
Why do the sources insistthey're so tightly linked?
I mean, they're fundamentallyseparate processes, aren't they?
SPEAKER_00 (03:06):
They are separate,
yes.
But they have this profoundrelationship, especially during
times of intense change.
The material points to threecommon characteristics that sort
of bridge the gap.
SPEAKER_01 (03:17):
Okay, what's the
first?
SPEAKER_00 (03:18):
First, they both
rely on energy rising.
It doesn't matter if it's theKundalini force breaking through
blocks or the high frequencyneeded for the body to channel
information.
It's an upward movement.
SPEAKER_01 (03:30):
An elevation of
energy makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (03:32):
Second, they both
require a deep, non-analytical
opening.
You can't think your way intoeither of these states.
SPEAKER_01 (03:39):
You can't force it
with your logical mind.
SPEAKER_00 (03:41):
Exactly.
It has to bypass the critic inyour head.
SPEAKER_01 (03:43):
And what's the third
most critical link?
SPEAKER_00 (03:45):
The third is the
role of the nervous system.
This is huge.
They both involve the nervoussystem shifting into a
significantly heightenedexpressive state.
SPEAKER_01 (03:54):
Okay, so the body is
no longer just a container.
SPEAKER_00 (03:56):
It becomes the
antenna, an active conduit for
high frequency data.
SPEAKER_01 (04:00):
So that shift in the
nervous system, that's the
central mechanism here.
The kundalini activation isstrong enough to force the
subconscious open and, like yousaid, upgrade the whole system.
Right.
And the result of that upgrade,that spontaneous movement or
sound, that becomes the physicalvehicle for something like light
language to manifest.
SPEAKER_00 (04:20):
You've got it.
The energy is flowing, demandingrelease, and the body, now
running at a higher frequency,interprets that flow as
something more than justshaking.
SPEAKER_01 (04:30):
It sees it as coded
or communicative.
SPEAKER_00 (04:32):
Exactly.
Which explains why so manypeople who have a kundalini
awakening report that thesespontaneous sounds or hand
movements, these kriyas, juststart happening.
SPEAKER_01 (04:42):
And later they learn
to identify that as light
language.
SPEAKER_00 (04:45):
And even refine it.
SPEAKER_01 (04:46):
But this brings up a
really crucial point.
If the sources are clear thatthey're separate things, what's
the risk of mistaking a simpleenergetic release for you know
an intentional communication, aKriya versus light language?
SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
That is a critical
distinction to make.
The sources suggest thedifference often comes down to
the feeling and the coherence ofit.
SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
Coherence.
SPEAKER_00 (05:05):
Yeah.
A Krea can be chaotic.
It's purely for clearing, forrelease.
But true light language, even ifit's spontaneous, it has
characteristics ofcommunication.
It feels purposeful.
SPEAKER_01 (05:17):
Heart-centered,
maybe?
SPEAKER_00 (05:18):
Very heart-centered.
And it feels like it'sdelivering specific information,
even if your mind has no cluewhat it is.
And that feeling, that flowleads us directly into the
metaphysical side of things.
SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
And here's where it
gets really interesting.
Because once we accept thisspontaneous expression as
happening, we're moving past theyogic idea of just physical
clearing.
SPEAKER_00 (05:40):
And into the
metaphysical interpretation of
these movements, these dancinghands.
SPEAKER_01 (05:44):
Right.
So when the sources talk aboutinterpreting these things
through dimensional lenses, howare we supposed to think about
that?
It sounds a bit like jargon.
SPEAKER_00 (05:51):
It does, but we can
build a conceptual bridge.
In these traditions, dimensionsaren't physical places you go
to.
SPEAKER_01 (05:57):
Like in a sci-fi
movie.
SPEAKER_00 (05:58):
Right.
They're more like distinctlevels of frequency or
informational density.
Think about like tuning a radio.
Each dimension is a differentstation carrying a specific kind
of data.
SPEAKER_01 (06:08):
Okay, so different
traditions are basically
examining the movement.
SPEAKER_00 (06:12):
Its speed, its
fluidity, its purpose.
SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
To figure out which
radio station is playing, which
frequency is driving it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:19):
That's the perfect
analogy.
They're looking for patternsthat tell them what kind of
information is being relayedthrough this body antenna.
SPEAKER_01 (06:28):
And the reports from
people who are channeling light
language with their hands areremarkably consistent.
They list four specificcharacteristics.
SPEAKER_00 (06:35):
Yes, they do.
SPEAKER_01 (06:36):
They talk about a
feeling of profound higher
connection.
They say it's guided byintuition, not mental planning.
SPEAKER_00 (06:43):
No thinking
involved.
SPEAKER_01 (06:44):
Zero.
The experience is almostuniversally described as coming
from a heart-centered state.
And there's this feeling ofenergy just moving through them.
SPEAKER_00 (06:54):
Like they're a
translator, not the author.
SPEAKER_01 (06:55):
Exactly.
So how do those four thingsconnect to this idea of
dimensions?
SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
Aaron Powell Well,
when we look at the big picture,
those four characteristics, theyalign perfectly with the
definition of 5D consciousness.
SPEAKER_01 (07:08):
The fifth
dimensional frequency.
SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Yes.
That's considered thefoundational baseline for this
kind of expression.
SPEAKER_01 (07:13):
Why 5D?
What defines it?
SPEAKER_00 (07:15):
5D is defined by
heart energy, unity
consciousness, intuitive flow,and nonlinear communication.
SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
Which are the exact
four things people report
feeling.
SPEAKER_00 (07:26):
What's fascinating
here is that the intense,
spontaneous kundalini flow, onceit breaks past the analytical
mind, seems to default to this5D frequency.
It's like the body's nervoussystem, when it's cleared and
heightened, naturally tunes intothat heart-centered frequency
for its spiritual output.
SPEAKER_01 (07:44):
So the spontaneous
state starts running on that
intuitive, loving 5D frequency.
But the sources go further,right?
They suggest the complexity ofthe movement might push the body
to access even higher symbolicdimensions.
SPEAKER_00 (07:56):
Exactly, higher
overlays.
SPEAKER_01 (07:58):
So if 5D is that
smooth, heart-centered flow, how
do these higher overlaysactually look?
How do they manifest differentlyin the physical expression?
SPEAKER_00 (08:05):
That's where the
interpretation gets really
specific based on the structureand precision of the movement.
Okay.
If the spontaneous movementstarts producing these highly
organized, visible geometricpatterns, like the hands are
drawing these invisible, complexshapes in the air.
SPEAKER_01 (08:19):
Like sacred
geometry.
SPEAKER_00 (08:20):
Precisely.
That is linked to 6Dconsciousness.
The sixth dimension is oftencalled sacred geometry
consciousness.
It's the level of universalblueprints of structural
formation.
SPEAKER_01 (08:30):
Aaron Powell So
that's a huge jump in
information density.
The 5D flow suddenly getsstructured and codified into
geometry.
What happens if it goes evenhigher?
SPEAKER_00 (08:38):
Aaron Ross Powell
Moving up, if the expression or
the sounds start to feelancient, incredibly dense.
More like digital codes thanphysical shapes.
SPEAKER_01 (08:48):
Digital codes.
SPEAKER_00 (08:48):
Yeah, that's the
language they use.
Those are linked to 7D through9D consciousness.
This is often interpreted asarchetypal or even angelic
consciousness.
The movements carry thispowerful ancient weight.
SPEAKER_01 (09:00):
Aaron Powell So it's
not just geometry, it's like a
massive data transfer.
SPEAKER_00 (09:02):
Aaron Ross Powell
Significant data packets,
universal wisdom.
And then finally, we hit thehighest interpretation that's
detailed in these sources.
Which is if the movements becomeextremely fast, ultra precise,
almost mathematically perfect,hyper-organized to a degree that
seems, frankly, unbelievable.
SPEAKER_01 (09:19):
Aaron Powell That's
interpreted as accessing the 12D
crystalline grid energy.
So what does that even mean?
What's being communicated fromthe crystalline grid through
these mathematical movements?
SPEAKER_00 (09:28):
Aaron Ross Powell
The idea is that 12D represents
the highest structural frequencywe can access, the very
scaffolding of reality.
SPEAKER_01 (09:36):
Oh wow.
SPEAKER_00 (09:37):
So the body as a
receiver is temporarily tapping
into the universal structureitself.
And that mathematical precisiondoesn't mean calculus.
Right.
It refers to movements so exactand fast they seem flawless,
almost machine-like.
It's like they're transferringpure energetic structure right
into the person's energy fieldfor integration.
SPEAKER_01 (09:57):
The source material
really gives us a beautiful
framework for all of this, then.
The core frequency driving theexpression is 5D, that
intuitive, heart-centered flow.
SPEAKER_00 (10:06):
That's the baseline.
SPEAKER_01 (10:07):
But the sheer power
of the kundalini can push the
nervous system to act as aconduit for these possible
higher overlays all the way upto 12D.
SPEAKER_00 (10:15):
And it all depends
on how the spontaneous
expression manifests, asgeometry, as ancient codes, or
as that hyper-precise, purestructural information.
SPEAKER_01 (10:24):
It gives you a
roadmap, a way to understand not
just that this intense movementis happening, but what it might
actually mean based on how itlooks and feels.
SPEAKER_00 (10:32):
A functional
interpretation.
SPEAKER_01 (10:33):
So what does this
all mean for you, for the
listener?
We've gone from a coiledphysical energy through a
dramatic nervous system shiftall the way to interpreting a
hand movement as a dimensionaldata transfer.
SPEAKER_00 (10:47):
Aaron Powell The
primary takeaway, I think, is
that the purifying energy ofKundalini and the expansive
communication of light languagearen't the same thing, but they
share that critical element.
SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
That forced
elevation of the nervous system
into a functioning expressivestate.
SPEAKER_00 (11:01):
And these
metaphysical traditions use the
intuitive, heart-centered natureof that output to map it onto
these dimensional frequencies,with 5D as the baseline.
SPEAKER_01 (11:10):
It's the starting
point for that kind of
communication.
SPEAKER_00 (11:13):
Right.
And stepping back, whether wefocus on the ancient yogic
discipline of internalpurification with kundalini or
the more modern energeticinterpretation of external
communication with lightlanguage and dimensions.
The core activity is the same.
The nervous system enters asignificantly heightened,
nonlinear state to process andexpress information, information
(11:34):
that's necessary fortransformation.
SPEAKER_01 (11:37):
This raises an
important question, though,
before we wrap this up.
The sources leave us with thisincredible paradox.
We've established that thesemovements are totally intuitive,
they bypass the analytical mind.
The conscious self is just thevehicle, right?
Not the programmer.
SPEAKER_00 (11:51):
Correct.
The self is just observing.
SPEAKER_01 (11:53):
So if the conscious
mind is completely out of the
loop, how does the spontaneousactivation of raw energy know
how to form itself into thecomplex geometry of 6D?
SPEAKER_00 (12:03):
Or the pure
mathematical precision of 12D.
SPEAKER_01 (12:06):
Yes.
Without any conscious direction,how does the body just know the
code?
That is something worth mullingover.
SPEAKER_00 (12:11):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (12:12):
Thank you for
joining us on the deep dive.
We'll see you next time.