December 15, 2024 • 65 mins
What should actors post on Instagram? How can you have fun with it while attracting the attention of casting directors?
Kevin Silvergieter, a talented German-Canadian actor, initially made waves as an influencer with over 100K followers. However, he eventually craved privacy and simplicity, stepping back from the spotlight. Returning to social media as an actor, Kevin redefined his approach—prioritising craft and authenticity over the addictive chase for likes and shares.
When podcast host and action actress Cindy Claes discovered Kevin’s Instagram, she immediately recognised his versatile talent and unique ability to stand out. Is this the formula actors need to create eye-catching content for casting directors?
In this episode, Kevin shares his minimalist yet impactful content creation philosophy. He emphasizes crafting genuine, artistic posts that showcase your talent while staying true to your goals. This episode is packed with insights for actors and content creators!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Loud Whisper Takeover podcast.
My name is Cindy Klaas.
As you know by now, I'm anaction actress, also emerging
filmmaker.
So one of the questions I'vebeen asking myself is how do I
create content for my Instagram?
As an actress, Somehow, itreally seems simple.
As a dancer and as a personthat does action or
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movement-based stuff, you justfilm yourself doing your thing.
But as an actor, it almostfeels like well, if you haven't
been working on a project andyou haven't been booked on doing
a film, a feature film, a shortfilm or a series, what the hell
do you post on your Instagramother than saying, hi, I'm doing
another casting.
So recently I met an actorbased in Germany called Kevin.
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I met him on a platform that iscalled the Actor's Home and
when I looked at his Instagram,I'm like, hmm, he might have
found a formula that works.
I must speak to him.
So please welcome Kevin fromGermany.
Hi, Kevin, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
doing.
Hi, cindy, I am fantastic.
Thank you so much for having me, and I love the introduction
because, yeah, I don't know, Idon't want to say I have the
answer, but I feel like formyself at least, I can answer a
big yes with your question formyself.
So, yeah, I love being here.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I was so excited because when I looked at your
Instagram, I thought okay, if Ihad to walk in the shoes of a
casting director or a filmdirector, I would get a sense of
who you are as an actorstraight away.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, that's the point right.
So, yes, good, good.
Thank you so much for thatfeedback.
Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I love it.
Yeah, no, I thought like yourcontent was just incredible and
really inspiring and I thought,okay, this guy is really finding
stuff, because I would say,usually, speaking, when I look
at you know, actors that kind ofyou know have a lot of
followers on Instagram.
Usually they do sketches andthey do really cool sketches and
(01:54):
but I'm like, okay, I'm notreally in that category as an
actress, but when I looked atyour Instagram, there was a
variety of of pieces of content,from sketch to simple acting to
, and you seem to just be in aflow creatively.
So let's start from the startwho are you as a human being,
(02:15):
where are you based and what ismaking your world as an actor?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
All right, my name is Kevin Silvagita.
I am a 36-year-oldGerman-Canadian actor.
I have both citizenshipsbecause my mom was born in
Netherlands but she moved toCanada when she was six and then
she came back when she studiedto Germany, anyway.
So I have the Canadiancitizenship from my mom, the
German citizenship from myfather.
I live in Germany.
(02:39):
I basically lived here all mylife.
I lived a year with my unclewhen I did grade 11 in Vancouver
.
My mom raised us bilingual.
Yeah, I live in the middle ofGermany, which is.
The town is called Großgira,which sounds very German, lots
of consonants, and I always sayit's Grand Giraud.
I make it sound French.
(03:01):
So it sounds more multicultural, but it's a really small town,
but it's close to Frankfurt andanyway.
So this is more multicultural,but it's a really small town,
but it's close to Frankfurt andanyway.
So this is me.
I live here on the outskirts ofFrankfurt, I guess you could
say, with my husband, two fosterkids, 10 chicken, two roosters
and three turtles.
I am a part-time flightattendant.
That's how my husband and I met.
(03:21):
I am a trained actor.
How my husband and I met.
I am a trained actor.
Yeah, and I just, I think,especially in the last two years
I made a big journey of findingmyself because I had a really
we'll go into that if you wantto, I don't mind.
We had a really tough break inour life and I went to therapy
(03:44):
and with the process of therapyI actually first I just, I think
a week ago I had the thought Ijust really now got to know
myself.
So, yeah, this is quite alreadydeep, but this is me.
Simple question, long answerthis is me.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I love it.
I absolutely love it becauseI'm sure that once I'm going to
ask you questions about howyou're creating your content,
it's probably very much inspiredby who you are as a human being
and your life journey.
First, I would love to ask yousome questions about fatherhood.
From our pre-podcastconversations, I understood that
becoming a father of two fosterchildren is that correct?
(04:23):
Becoming a father of two fosterchildren is that correct?
Seemed to have been a reallybig event in your life, so could
you talk to me more about whatit means for you to be a father
and how that maybe perhapsimpacted your acting career in
general or how you perceivedyour craft in general as well,
that's a nice, really reallynice and thoughtful question,
really really nice, thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That's a nice, really really nice and thoughtful
question, really really nice,thank you.
Well, being a queer man,children don't come easily and
naturally, of course, and whenmy husband and I met, we are
both we're 17 years apart, so Iwas 21 and she was 37, turning
38.
And having kids was a veryelemental part of our
(05:08):
relationship, although we didn'tknow, we didn't really talk
about it, but like thesefundamental things like family
loyalty, they were always partof our common sense, I'd say.
And then, when I turned 24,yeah, we talked about having,
wanting to have, have kids, andthe journey was just rocky.
Like, how do you do it?
(05:30):
Do you ask a friend?
Do you want to have a trianglerelationship?
Do you want to be like apatchwork family?
Do you do a surrogate, which isforbidden in Germany and
expensive?
Do you adopt?
Can you adopt?
Where do you adopt?
How many kids are there foradoption?
How many heterosexual couplesare there?
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And after almost a year, we feltlike we won't have kids at all.
And then, because we neverwanted to have foster kids,
because foster kids they'redifficult, you never know what
you're going to get, you alwayshave to handle the original
family.
And so we said, no, fosterfamily, no, no way.
(06:11):
But before not having kids atall, we decided to at least have
a glimpse to the road of fosterfamily.
And, yeah, we thought that kindof suits us even best, because
these are kids who who don'thave anyone to love them, not by
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fault of the biological parents, but just because of bad
circumstances or because of badbiological background of the
biological parents themselves.
So the more we went into theprocess of becoming foster
parents, we thought, okay, thisis going to be tough, but I
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think this is going to be ourway of becoming a family.
And, yeah, then, after a verylong journey of I think almost a
year, we decided to be ready.
And then the foster care peopledecided that we would be ready.
And then we had in September2015, we got our first child and
(07:22):
two years later, our secondchild.
And thinking that I would neverhave kids in the end, having
kids was, yeah, I don't know,unbelievable.
It's hard to describe.
I think I cried a lot in thattime, especially tears of joy,
because it was so we almostthought we would give up.
(07:43):
We almost thought, okay, thiswas worth a try, but we won't
have kids.
And then we did get kids.
It was so, I don't know, it'sdifficult to describe, because
you depend on people not likebiological, heterosexual, let's
say, or lesbians, who can justask for a sperm donator, which
is quotation marks easier.
(08:04):
You can just go and do it Sorryto say it that blunt and then,
of course, you have to be luckyto get pregnant, but you can at
least do it, and there's no onewho's sitting there and saying
you can't, you can, you can, youcan.
And there we are sitting,loving each other really a lot
and having a really strongrelationship, thinking we can do
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it.
And then there's people gettingto decide and judge who we are
and if we're worthy enough ofbecoming parents or not.
And then having kids and reallybeing able to give the love we
always wanted to give was yeah,was a life-changing moment
definitely, which also had a bigimpact as a human being, of
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course, because I think the mostimportant thing I learned as an
actor being a parent is itdoesn't matter at all, none of
the additions, none of the jobs,they don't matter.
What really matters is that mykids are healthy, that they're
happy, that they're protectedand that I can be there for them
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, and the rest is just.
It's nice to have, of course,and of course I'm ambitious and
eager and I really want to workas a film star and I want to be
in Hollywood and everything.
But it doesn't matter In theend.
At the end of the day, it justdoes not matter, and I think
that was the hardest and bestlessons I learned being a father
(09:35):
.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And may I ask so?
Because obviously in thefostering system it's not the
same as adoption, but in somefostering systems, like, kids
might have to change familiesquite often and then in some
fostering circumstances it canactually be a lifetime.
Uh, are you kids with you forprobably a lifetime, or are you
still in a temporary sort ofphase where, where it could, no,
(10:00):
no?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
there's never a hundred percent.
But I always have this veryharsh and black example.
But at one point I have to letgo of my child and when they
have an accident, a car accident, and they die, it's terrible.
But I, you know, like I neverhave 100%, I can never protect
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kids 100%, and that's how Idescribe being a long-term
foster parent.
Like I don't have 100% thatthey will stay with me Because
technically, by law, thebiological parents always will
have a chance of, at least bylaw, having them back.
But both kids have been with ussince now six and almost ten
(10:44):
years.
So no, six and eight years,sorry.
And there is no contact at allwith the biologic parents.
So after a certain time,psychologists and the court,
they really look deep and lookclose.
And then where's the center offamily of the kids?
And obviously it's with us.
Both found a sibling with eachother.
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They've been longer with usthan they have been with their
biological parents.
They've been with us basicallya lifetime.
So chances are zero, close tozero, but there's never a
hundred percent.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But yeah, we are their parents and they stay with
us till they are, till they canstand on their own feet,
whenever that may be beautifuland I want to ask obviously I
can hear in your story, um, thatyou had to overcome a lot of,
like you say, like the system issort of, you know, putting a
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judgment on you as as a couple,as two men, as everything that
sort of involves you as a humanbeing, if you will be a
responsible couple for thesechildren and stuff.
I'm sure that all the emotionalaspect has informed you as an
actor, all that journey, theemotional journey.
But you as a father, like therelationship between you and
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your kids, is that inspiring youto create content?
Or is your content nothing todo with being a father?
Like the relationship betweenyou and your kids, is that
inspiring you to create content,or is your content?
Has your content nothing to dowith being a father?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
um, that also changed .
Like um, I started instagrambecause of the kids, because my
husband and I uh wanted to beidols, representatives for
foster parents, for rainbowfamilies families as we say in
Germany I don't know if that'san international term and we
actually were the first Germangay couple with kids being like
(12:34):
a family influencer profile onInstagram.
That's how I even found my wayto Instagram.
And then, three years ago Ithink, we decided to stop and
our content was always verypolitical, obviously because
it's a political topic, whetherwe want to or not.
(12:54):
And then there's lots of rightmovements in Europe and, of
course, in Germany, sadly too,so we always felt like we had to
in Germany, sadly too, so wealways felt like we had to speak
up.
We almost had 100,000 followerson Instagram, so we always felt
like we had a responsibility aswell.
So not only showing our dailylife we never showed the kids up
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front, only from the back.
We were always very cautiouswith that but not only inspiring
gay men to to think abouthaving kids, but also for
society, opening up, givingdifferent perspectives.
So that was always veryimportant.
And then, when we stopped doingthe influencer profile as a
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family and I started taking overas an actor, I had the ambition
and the thought I have theresponsibility to do political
and important topics for thesociety.
So I started doing sketcheswhich concerned LGBTQ or foster
family.
And then I made another journeyand it kind of did not feel not
(14:06):
only right, not right anymore,but also it took so much time
writing down this, this scripts,and I felt like it was not
attached to being an actoranymore, but it was more
attached to being important orto trying to fight important
topics for society, trying tofind important topics for
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society.
And I made the switch insideand then outside that I thought,
no, I want this to be more of ajourney for myself as an actor.
And then I stopped doing thesesketches and I tried to find
other channels and now I'm justtrying to concentrate on just
being an actor.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And I also know that one of your children has a
disability I'm not sure if it'sa physical disability or
something else.
Are you open to maybe talkabout it a little bit and how
that actually impacts you aswell as a human being and as an
actor?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, well, that's basically.
That was the reason why westopped our family profile,
because it's an emotionaldisability.
It's caused by alcohol abuse inthe pregnancy.
It's called FASD I think FASDis the international term it's
fatal alcohol syndrome disorderand it affects huge parts of the
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brain, of the learning processof repetition.
It's huge and when we got thediagnosis we didn't feel being
that secure anymore to talkabout our private life.
My husband and I, we carry ourthoughts in our tongue.
We are open books.
That's fine.
It will always be like this.
(15:45):
It was always fine for us.
But when that happened, I haveto go back a little bit further.
When we decided to have kids,we said no disability, we can
handle lots of things a missingarm, missing leg but we cannot
rebuild our house for someonewith a wheelchair just because
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we don't.
We just can't.
We would love to, but we justcan't.
But emotional disabilities wecannot handle.
And then, after having thischild for so long, it turned out
to having a disability which wenever wanted.
So we were devastated like ourdream crushed.
Lots of future options wethought we would have never will
(16:30):
never happen, never.
That's why I said earlier theycan stay as long as they need to
.
They can stay as long as theyneed to.
This one child will probablystay with us forever, until we
decide to pick a care home.
Um, and that also, you know, oneone part is a shift.
(16:51):
It shifted the perspective ofwanting a big part of my life
private again, and it also putso many things into perspective
again Again.
So many things are just notimportant.
So, yeah, I guess also it mademe even more open to my emotions
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.
It made me connect even morewith myself, really look into
what's really.
What do I really want to spendmy time with?
Do I want to create sketches tomake people laugh, or create
sketches to to maybe helpsociety, or do I now want to
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grow as an actor?
And that's why that's why Ialso, yeah, changed with with
this big impact.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, thank you so much for sharing all of that
because I think, whether peopleare going, you know, through
parenthood or other, some ofsome of the challenging moments
of life, I think you touched ona lot of very strong topics when
it comes to content creation,it's boundaries.
Where do I say this is what I'mnot sharing.
This is where I want this partof my life to be private,
(18:11):
because, also, a lot of peoplein marketing say, oh, share your
authentic self, your real self,and you also have to know,
actually, which part of my realselves am I going to share and
which parts I'm not going toshare now, because this is part
of the private sector and that'swhy I want to jump in what you
described and said in thebeginning.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I don't share any big private things and yet you said
you get a perfect sense of whoI am as an actor, as a human
being.
So it is possible.
That's why I just want to jumpin.
It is possible.
You don't have to step overboundaries because you're afraid
that you may not be able toshow your best as a human being
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and an actor in this specificniche of acting people.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And I will ask you further, really in detailed
questions, about your content.
But first, I want people reallyto have, you know, an overview
of who you are so that we canreally see oh, that's how he
created his content or kind of,you know, build a bridge between
what he does in his everydaylife and what he posts on
Instagram.
So the second thing that is, Iguess, of some sort of influence
(19:20):
in your life is that you have apart-time job as a flight
attendant.
So I'm sure you must have tonsof anecdotes in regards to
flying all the time and managingschedules and being a dad.
But is there any content thatyou would say is influenced by
your job of being a flightattendant?
Or, again, are you totallystepping away from that and it
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doesn't really impact yourcontent?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
at all.
It does Like I do have a fewsketches as a flight attendant
and then, I don't know, I'llprobably do some sketches again.
It's just.
I really see, especiallyInstagram has a huge opportunity
to just play around and seewhat just happened, what suits I
mean.
Of course, if you ask theseInstagram gurus and coaches,
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they'd say pick a niche, stickto it, yay.
But I think we actors have tostep away.
We have to step away from thatperspective, because I think
that's important if you reallywant to grow a huge following
ship, which can be cool, ofcourse, but it's really
difficult nowadays having somany people do it.
(20:26):
I think important is that whathappens is what you described in
the beginning and that's alsowhat a writer feedback me.
There was a job for a reallycool commercial which is going
to air in September and theydidn't even look at my show reel
because they just went throughmy Instagram and saw the
sketches.
When I was cast for the job, Idid more sketches and he said he
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totally got the vibe and hewanted me to do the part, to
play the part because of thesketches.
Yes, I do have over 50,000followers, but he said they
don't care about the following.
It was just about my contentand the way I presented myself
that he said he wants to workwith me and that's why I'm
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saying I think we can, as actors, step away from this.
Okay, we have to pick a niche.
For some people it works.
I do have like two or threeGerman content creators who are
actors, who really stick totheir niche and it works for
them.
But they are already famous,they already have over 200,000
followers and sure they only canpost a sketch once every two
(21:39):
weeks and that's totally fine.
But for me, I really just Iwanted to go back to this.
Yeah, what do I want?
And so I did some flightattendant sketches, but then I
stepped away from it too,because, again, I felt like I
was forcing to do content justbecause people now expect me to
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do them.
Because I was.
I I didn't fly for over eightyears because I was on parental
leave and then I took, uh, some,um, two years, um, what's it?
Unemployed, uh, holidays, Idon't know what's the german or
the term like parental, on aparental leave, as if you have
the kids, but kids, but then youcan be on long-term leave
(22:24):
without being paid Sabbatical,yeah, but it's longer.
It's not like a sabbatical, is,I think, just a year, or is it,
I don't know.
Anyway, super long sabbatical,a two-year sabbatical exactly.
And then I came back doing theflight attendant thing and I
posted about it and then I hadthe feeling, ok, oh, people
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liked it.
And again I myself I fell.
I stepped into the trap of oh,people like the content of the
flight attendant thing, let's domore of it.
And then I again, I was like no, but now I'm doing it because
people expect me to do it moreof it.
And then again I was like no,but now I'm doing it because
people expect me to do it, butthat's not why and how I want to
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approach my Instagram.
So I stepped away from it.
I'll do some again, maybe, butbecause, yes, of course it does
inspire me, because I meet lotsof people, which is what acting,
I guess, is all about.
Looking at people, guess, isall about looking at people,
observing people.
It does inspire me always as ahuman being.
Yeah, but again I stepped awayfrom it because I didn't want to
be forced to do it, justbecause it's expected of me and
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you were talking about sketches,so I saw some sketches on your
Instagram and during our pre orpre-podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
We were also talking about the fact that you like
making people laugh.
Would you describe yourself asbeing a comedy actor, or would
you say no, no, no, I'm doingcastings and my dream roles are
both comedy and also loads ofother stuff.
Or would you kind of say, no,comedy is really my niche.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's really difficult .
I'm still trying to figure thatout because I haven't worked
Until two years ago.
I was out of the business, ofthe acting business and of
flight attendant businessbecause I took care of the kids.
And ever since then I'm tryingto figure out.
Like I always used to be theweird one or the strange one, so
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I always thought, ok, I one orthe strange one.
So I always thought, okay, I'lldo like the Heath Ledger roles,
like I'll be the weird one,I'll be the villain who's going
to have a crazy story and that'sgoing to be my thing.
But no, that's not me.
And then my husband always saidI'm really funny when I'm not
trying to be funny.
So I thought, okay, thisdoesn't make sense to be in the
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comedy business if I only can doit when I don't want to do it.
And now I want to do and wantto be funny for a casting.
I'm not, so that's not going towork.
But then kind of with I did lotsof advertisements, lots of
commercials and it was alwayskind of funny.
So I thought, okay, maybe I canbe this funny guy, but not like
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comedy, stand up funny, butlike really in a, in a, in a
nice funny way.
And then I did lots ofworkshops and discovered that I
was the rom-com guy, that Icould be like the love interest
which I never thought of myself,never I wouldn't.
But anyways, I got the feedbackyou could be kind of the love
interest, and so now I guess Istill don't know if that's
(25:25):
completely my niche, but I'd sayI'm the rom-com love interest
which combines the comedy, butnot in a so funny way, but in oh
my god, that that's really cuteor that that makes me smart,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, I think that's my niche and then you
also had a role in a germanseries like a police series
called yeah, it's but that, yeah, but that's it was for.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Like the tatort is um a movie like they, they, the,
the, the police officers, theyalways they stay for years and
years.
But all the other roles onlyappear in one movie.
And I had a supporting role inone of those Tatots, yes, which
is of course not comedy and notrom-com and not love interest
and nothing.
So, yeah, we'll see where thatgoes.
(26:12):
I think rom-com, love interestcould work, but I don't know.
The Tardot is airing in twoweeks on a festival and then in
October it will be airing inGerman television.
So we'll see.
I don't know, maybe after thatI'll be the.
I don't know, we'll see.
I don't want to spoil too much.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Okay, awesome, you are an actor.
You are still exploring whereyou could get most jobs, but
you're open to everything, butrom-com seems to be where people
like to see you in.
You are a flight attendant.
You are creating content.
So tell me about your contentnow, because there are different
pieces of content.
(26:53):
Do you have like categories ofcontent, um, or do you just come
up with stuff, or how does itwork?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I think it's always.
It flows and it's a journey.
Like you said, I had thesketches, or I have the sketches
, which is, of course it's onepart, but I haven't done them in
a very long time, I'd say,because it's just so much going
on.
Now we are, the kids are inholidays, so I don't have much
time to write down sketches orto write down any big things.
(27:24):
Plus, yeah, I felt stuck, so Iget.
I think it's what I learned isnot to do the content for
Instagram and the people, but todo it for myself, to grow and
experience.
I did.
What definitely is one of thethings I do is like a right-left
(27:45):
thing, like I lip syncsomething from a movie which is
on Instagram and then I do it intwo different versions.
Like I don't know, I smile tillone word and the other version
is I start smiling on that oneword and then just write down
what's.
Which one is more effective?
Or I do one with hate and onewith love, where one knows the
secret.
One doesn't like these sort ofthings.
(28:07):
I really like doing thesemyself because I really like to
see myself how such a big, likeit's not really open to just you
know, just do something.
It's it's really strict, likedo this and then do that, and
for me that's really nice workto see.
Okay, what would happen if adirector would come and say,
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okay, I really want it to bethis way, how can I do that,
still authentically?
And and I I give myself tasksto grow as an actor and and with
the left-right thing, it's forme to see, okay, how can I do it
as authentic as possible with areally strict objective and
then see how people respond andif it even reaches them.
(28:51):
What I want to do.
And now, one of the mostcontent I create is my daily
acting challenge, which is, just, I just pick a very famous
movie quote, or I didShakespeare to be or not to be,
and then I just play around withit.
I just I do my warmup, I just Itry to get into the groove and
(29:15):
then I just say the sentence 10times.
Sometimes I scream them,sometimes I give myself like,
okay, let's try to say itbecause my husband cheated on me
.
Or let's say, okay, I'll do itbecause I hate someone.
And then I just say the samesentence, but with a different
intention in my head.
(29:36):
And, yeah, I just play aroundwith one sentence and see how it
affects me, where I try to notbe stuck to the rhythm of the
obvious way of saying thesentence, but to just see how do
I feel inside.
Okay, I'll pronounce this nowdifferently, that sort of thing.
(30:01):
So it's basically, it's alwaysjust where, at least now.
It took me a long time to getthere, but now for me it's just
experiencing myself and, likethe reminder, reminding myself,
because that's what you said inthe beginning Dancers they
practice every day.
They dance.
Singers they sing every daybecause that's the instrument.
(30:22):
Other musicians they practicetheir instrument every single
day, but just actors don't, onlywhen an audition comes up or
when they're booked.
They just don't.
I didn't and I thought but Iwant to know my instrument by
heart and I want it to workwhenever it has to.
And so the daily actingchallenge was more like a thing.
(30:46):
I started doing it withoutInstagram.
I started doing it two monthsago, I think.
And then I thought that's weird.
You're on Instagram, everyonetells you to create content and
you're creating it basicallyevery day and you just don't
post it why?
And then I just thought come on, it's a movie.
It's a movie called.
Everyone Knows, it's not likeI'm copying something which is
not out yet, it's not from aself-tape which I'm not allowed
(31:10):
to post.
It's not something I cannotpost or I have to be like
secretly about.
No, it's something everyoneknows.
Or I picked some quotes fromBridget.
Maybe next time I'll dosomething from the Bear.
Whatever, I'll take somethingwhich is what I like, what I
feel good about, and then I'lljust record it and then I'll
just pick five differentversions and then I'll just post
(31:33):
it.
It's like it takes me five to10 minutes to create it which I
do anyways because I want topractice as an actor and then it
takes me maybe two or threeminutes to edit, because it's
not anymore about the.
Okay, I have to write a realcool caption.
No, I just do the subtitle withthe one line I do, and then I
(31:56):
do five hashtags or whatever,and then I'll just post it, and
sometimes only 50 people do aheart.
But the thing is, I think if acasting director goes on to my
profile, they'll see okay, cool,he's doing something and then,
even if they don't like it, itdoesn't matter, but they'll see
(32:17):
it.
There's something, because Idid this workshop with a social
media coach, for I don't thinkshe was especially for actors,
but she said for actors, shetransformed it for actors and
she said social media isbasically like Google search and
the SEO of social media is muchmore higher ranked than any
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other content we create, likeeven in our casting profiles.
They appear much lower thanYouTube or Instagram or whatever
.
So even if they don't go orthey don't look at us on
Instagram, what most castingdirectors today do, they'll do
it on Google and then my reelswill pop up from Instagram or
(33:03):
TikTok and they probably look onit, especially if it says 30
seconds, because usually youhave 30 seconds but sometimes
you don't have the three minutesfrom a whole reel.
You look and, yeah, sometimespeople actually want to work
with me, or I was invited forauditions because of my
instagram profile and and againit's it changes.
(33:27):
Maybe in in two months.
I won't do the daily actinganymore because I feel maybe I'm
bored of myself and I'll lookfor something else.
It's just a playground and Ithink there's no right or wrong.
It's just a matter of how youfeel.
But and you can always delete,like I did that two weeks ago I
thought oh God, this sketch isreally cheesy.
(33:48):
Cut it out and I thought oh myGod, that's not my best acting
in that sketch.
Take it out.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I really love how very how you're very clear on
okay, I'm creating content notjust to get followers, not just
to get likes, but just because Iwant to have flipping fun with
my acting and with my craft, andI think that's really what
attracted me to your Instagramaccount is, yeah, this guy is
practicing, learning, growingand having freaking fun with the
(34:14):
fact that he's an actor, and Ithink that we really see all
that.
So, just to summarize, I wouldsay that there are sketches on
your Instagram.
So the sketches.
You need a bit more time tothink about it, to write it and
to feel inspired.
You have this left right type ofcontent.
So same sentence, but bothcharacters have a different feel
(34:35):
about the sentence.
One is sad, one is happy, oneis cheeky and the other one is
you is happy, one is cheeky andthe other one is, you know, a
murderer or whatever.
And then you create these dailyacting challenges which is one
sentence and going throughdifferent whys of how you say it
, why you say it and so forthyesterday I even posted one with
just drinking, because I'mreading a book just right now.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's um respect for acting with by utah hagen, and
um, the one topic I just readyesterday was about actions and
doings and I thought that's cool.
Let's just see how I can drinkwater with different types of
behaving of, of work, likestereotypes, whatever.
You know like, maybe I'll dothat the other next time when I
(35:15):
cook, I'll chop the cucumber andI'll go like, okay, I was
betrayed.
Or you know like, yeah, I'mjust, but I'm just playing
around.
Yeah, but these are, I guessyou could say these are the
three topics I post about.
Then, of course, if I have ajob I was booked for and I get
content, I get to post, I postthat too.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, so I want to talk about production quality
and how big of a productionthere is behind the scenes,
because sometimes you have anormal background that we would
use as a self-tape backgroundand sometimes, as you said, I've
seen a few stuff of yours thatare being done in the kitchen,
for example.
So do you have just a cameraand a mic?
(35:55):
Do you set up lighting?
Do you have a whole crew thatwe are not aware of, or how how
much production is going on?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
no, it's just me, it's really just me, it's just
my cell phone.
I got the new, a new smartwatchfrom my husband for my birthday
, which is really cool, becausenow I don't do it with the front
camera anymore, but now I canum, they're, they're connected,
the phone and the, the, thesmartwatch.
So now I can take the maincamera, which of course has a
(36:24):
better quality, and then I canjust look onto my watch and see
okay, am I on in frame?
That's the one thing I changedto get a better quality of my
filming.
And then I just have one lightwhich I'm using right now too.
It's just on a stand and it hasa warm light and cold light and
(36:46):
I could just dim it.
I don't.
I have a microphone which I'mnot using right now.
Sometimes I use it.
Most times I forget about it,but honestly, it's fine.
I know nowadays theseinfluencers, they all they have
these cool thing and they talkabout it even with their in
their regular videos.
I know nowadays theseinfluencers, they all have these
cool things and they talk aboutit even in their regular videos
.
If you scroll through, I comingfrom this influencer background
.
I still have some influencers Ifollow, and then I see this and
(37:08):
I'm like, okay, do I have to doit too?
And then I listen to my videos.
I'm like I don't see the needof paying 200 euros or I don't
know 50 bucks for.
So it's very low profile.
I do have a colleague.
He has a studio with this hugeLED background and we're trying
to find a date to do contenttogether.
(37:29):
So maybe in two or three monthsthere will be content which is
definitely higher, betterproduced.
But basically it's just me.
I mean there's apps.
What do I use?
Mostly I just use InShot andthen you can have different
backgrounds.
I pick backgrounds fromaircrafts, I go on to Google, to
(37:51):
stock images, and then I just,if I do the sketches, I look for
backgrounds I want to use andthen with InShot shot, you can
just crop out your backgroundand then you can put the other
one behind.
That's a little bit more tricky, but still it's just.
At the moment the content on myinstagram is just me, myself and
my instrument, because that'sthat's another thing, because I
(38:13):
took so much, it took so muchtime to, to, to, to look for the
, for the backgrounds to go.
Okay, I don't like now thequality of the background and
the transition to myself did notwork.
Do I now buy, like, the proversion of InShot?
Do I buy another app which isbetter and it was like no?
(38:33):
Back to the basics.
I want to experience andexpress my instrument.
I want to see what I'm capableof without any big tum-tum.
There's other greatInstagrammers, content creators,
actors, actresses who doamazing videos with probably
(38:57):
either a team or really goodequipment, which is totally fine
, but no, I want to be the actorwhere people go like.
Isn't that the guy who doesjust the quotes and just does
the quotes?
Isn't that so cool that I wantto be that guy?
Maybe, I don't know, maybe I'llstop at half a year and I'll
never get to the point.
I want to keep it simple.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, that's why I invited you on the podcast.
This guy does doing these coolcodes, you know, on Instagram.
I find super interesting.
So I have another question foryou, an important one, because
you're a multilingual actor andI also speak several languages.
I'm sure there are manylisteners and actors that speak
different languages.
How do you decide which pieceof content you're going to do in
(39:40):
German and which piece ofcontent you're going to do in
English?
Is that just well, I feel thevibe, or is that more of well?
I want to book this kind ofjobs.
How do you make that choice?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I switched, I'd say, three or two weeks ago, recently
to English.
I did everything in German andI had a talk with my agent
because I had three or fourmajor international castings
this year, which none of them Ibooked.
But I got them.
And since I am good withEnglish, I thought I want to
(40:10):
work internationally.
And then I had this talk withmy agent.
We didn't talk about Instagram,but after that I thought, if I
want to represent myself as aninternational actor, or at least
a bookable international actor,I should make my content
international.
So let's just make it inEnglish and that's it.
(40:31):
I mean, what's the what's?
One of the quotes I read.
I didn't pick it, but frankly,my dear, I don't give a damn.
Germans will know which movieit's from and if not, they can
Google it.
They're like oh my God, calebwas gone with the wind, but it's
just a sentence.
So in the end, especially forthese contents, it's just a
sentence.
And even if a German castingdirector would look to my
(40:54):
profile and go like, oh my's,all english, but still it, it's,
it's my acting, you know what Imean?
Like I, I'm pretty sure germancasting directors would still
get ah, that's kevin silva,that's the vibe of him, that's
his essence and so, yeah, it'sjust recently I started to do it
in english everything, thecaptions, the hashtags, my
(41:18):
everything because I want towork and be booked
internationally.
So that's the reason.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
So you already shared that some casting directors
have called you in because ofyour content of Instagram, or
that you even booked jobsbecause a film director or
somebody that was casting for acommercial saw your Instagram
content and were like, yeah,he's the guy.
What does your agent think ofyour content?
Does your agent repost it?
(41:48):
Does that also generate youknow reposts and that sort of
things?
Or is there any enthusiasm thatcomes, you know, from your
content in that way?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Oh, I know that he is totally supportive about it and
then he loves everything I do.
He's just not the big posterhimself.
So he's always do whatever youwant.
Just don't be mad if I don'talways repost.
I actually I don't mark him.
Coming to think about it, Idon't like if it's something
booking wise, yes, I'll mark himor he'll even post something.
(42:21):
But just this daily things, I'mjust, I don't even.
I don't even add my agencybecause I'm like that's just,
that's.
It's part of the puzzle to getbookings or to get auditions,
but I feel it's not necessarilyattached to my agency.
(42:44):
I think it would even feelweird if he'd repost everything
I'm doing, because there, whenit comes to agency, I think
there's definitely thisprofessional cut where you go
okay, that's agency, so that'sbookings, because that's helpful
(43:17):
for the agency to showthemselves that they have
working, or actors, actresseswho are asked for additions.
But creating content like I'mdoing, I think has nothing to do
with the agency and is no needto be even seen on my agency's
side.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And so an additional question is about the call to
action.
So call to action is, you know,for listeners is when you do an
Instagram post or a post onsocial media and you ask your
audience to do something.
So, for example, please commentbelow, do you prefer A or B?
Click on the poll, that sort ofthings.
Does your content include acall to action and, if so, do
(44:01):
you do it with awareness orabsolutely not?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Never.
I think some of my or I think Istarted trying to do the
sketches with this in my mind.
Like I do a loop, I'd write itso that the ending would
directly lead back to thebeginning again, because I
thought that I actually there'sa few sketches which are really,
(44:26):
when I see them on othercontent creators pages, which
are really nice because they endwith, but and then they start
again with, because that sort ofthing.
So it's like a loop and you canwatch on and on, and sometimes
it takes three times to realizethat it's already, that it
already played three times.
I thought that was funny and soI started doing this again,
(44:46):
because I also knew thatInstagram liked replays a lot,
and then sometimes I tried toimplement a question into the
sketch, but then again I noticedit's really holding me back or
it's like I'm stepping into thisloop again, trying to do or to
create content for Instagraminstead of creating art.
(45:09):
And so now I just know I knowthat there's a lot of.
I think it comes from TikTokand I see it now on Instagram.
Sometimes, too, they go likeI'll take you with me on my
daily acting blog.
In German they say make theplus disappear for more.
(45:29):
Like it's the, it's the call toaction for follow.
Like, follow me for more.
Like they'll end every videowith follow me for more, because
eventually I get it.
I guess it will work, thatpeople will follow um, and which
is totally fine, I get it.
I was in that on in that huntinggame myself.
(45:50):
Like I will.
I.
We had 100 000 followers.
I was like, oh my god, this iscool.
And yes, I do get it.
And yes, I know that numbers domatter and that numbers can
also lead to bookings.
But that's the crucial part.
Like you can step so easilyinto that trap of just serving
(46:14):
Instagram instead of servingyour own craft.
And for me, I had the influencerthing.
I had the huge follower amountand I know how stressful it can
be.
So I guess I have a differentperspective.
Like, I still lose followers.
I don't grow because and it'ssimple as that and I can
(46:34):
understand it it's totally fineI had, like a magazine with the
topic of furnishing and then Ichanged the editorial of that
magazine to motorcycles from nowto the next day and of course,
the readers of the magazine withfurnishing are not interested
(46:55):
or didn't buy that magazinebecause of motorcycles, but
because of furnishing, andthat's what's happening with my
Instagram account still.
So it's totally fine that allthese people all these moms
mostly who still follow mebecause of our rainbow family
daily lives they don't want tosee acting or they're not
interested in me experimentingaround with one if they don't
want to see acting or they'renot interested in me
experimenting around with one,so that's totally fine.
(47:16):
But, yeah, so I do get it and Itotally understand why people
add these call to action things.
Yeah, I just sometimes I findthem really what do you say
nowadays cringe, like I findthem embarrassing or I find them
really so much on the nose andI'm like okay, now it's kind of
(47:39):
I feel like people understoodthe Instagram game by now that
you don't really need the callto action anymore.
People know how it works.
Like at some time, if I repostmy content into my story, I'll
do, I'll go to the gifs and putshare, and then I'll see the
heart, the share thing, the savething, and then I'll just add
it on the bottom or write share,comment, because sometimes
(48:02):
people need the reminder andthey also do the stories telling
people that it is important tointeract with me, to like my
stuff, because then thevisibility grows and that's
important for the business.
I do sometimes mention that inthe stories, but and that's the
thing I don't want to hindermyself, I don't want to serve
Instagram, because that's whatmostly happens the longer people
(48:25):
stay on my profile and on theapp, it helps Instagram.
It doesn't help me, but whatdoes help me is showing my best,
acting, and I think that's howI do it at the moment, with just
trying to take the time toactually act and play around.
(48:47):
So, yeah, no call to actionswith me.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
And I found it so important what you shared,
because it's strange that youhad this position of being an
influencer before pushing theplatform for you as an actor, so
you kind of experienced theother side, but you were able to
make more authentic choicesafterwards and I love that.
You said it's not about servingInstagram, it's about serving
(49:10):
my craft.
I think that's a very powerfulpiece of guidance and advice.
Let's talk about followersbecause, like you said,
followers is not all what weneed and that's not particularly
why we're doing what we'redoing either but it can help,
perhaps getting certain jobs or,eventually, if you have
(49:31):
something to sell, like a courseor whatever, some coaching
sessions or something else ormerch, you can help.
So you have quite a lot offollowers on Instagram.
You have, at this moment intime, about 55,000, 56,000
followers on Instagram.
How did you get those followers?
Is that still, you know, a partof like your influencers
(49:53):
journey?
That sort of brought followersto your page and, like you said,
you also lost many becauseyou're not talking about the
same topics.
And then my second questionthat is linked to that is do you
enjoy it having that amount offollowers or, on the contrary,
does that put pressure on yourshoulders?
Speaker 2 (50:09):
it, it used to.
On the switch it did okay.
So, um, we since I guess we wehad the very lucky position that
we were the first gay germancouple, so of course there was
no competition.
So all the moms who did the,the, the mom blogging, they
shared us and so we grew veryfast, very quickly, and that was
(50:30):
, of course, that was a niceposition, it was nice to have.
And then, with with the switch,lots of people went and in the
beginning I thought I have tokeep as many as possible because
of course I already two yearsago knew, especially coming from
the influencer business,knowing what's possible with a
huge amount of following, I knewhow much money you could earn
(50:55):
or how to which events you'rebeing invited and so I thought,
okay, this definitely must workas well as an actor.
So at the beginning was veryeager, I really wanted to keep
these followers.
I really was desperate everytime I lost a huge like.
Every time the number abovedropped.
(51:16):
I was like, okay, now peoplecan see it again.
Ah, if they're gonna, ifthey're gonna drop in every two
weeks and see, oh my god, he'slosing again, what are they
gonna think about it?
And then I went to events andthey were podium discussions on
film festivals and they're like,okay, starting with 60, 70 000
or starting with 100 000, it'sreally interesting.
(51:36):
As for a production company,and I're like, okay, starting
with 60, 70 000 or starting with100 000, it's really
interesting.
As for a production company,and I'm like, oh, my god, okay,
now I really have to beinventive again and try to find
something to explode again, tohave lots of shares so people
will follow me.
It started again and like that'sthe.
That that was one of thebiggest reliefs we had as a
family when we stopped.
Like we would try.
(51:57):
We would always make sure thatthe family of the kids would
come first, but what did happen?
As an influencer is our brainwould constantly go around
influencing because it was aprivate topic, so it was always
oh, look, the kids are playingnicely.
We could definitely make agreat picture from here, because
you wouldn't notice them.
And then we were like, butshouldn't we just watch our kids
(52:21):
Instead of thinking why wewatch our kids to create content
?
And so that was actually thebiggest relief we had when we
decided.
The reason why we decided tostop was not that I have to be
honest and.
But you know, so it's kind ofweird, but in the end I can say
(52:41):
we were lucky to have a childwith a disability, because it
made us realize a lot about lifeand to handle social media.
And then again that's why Imentioned this it happened again
.
Again I fell into the trap of,okay, what do I do, what's
special about my life, what canI share, to get more followers.
(53:02):
And it took me, I think, a yearuntil I really realized how
much time in my head I spendagain and I was like but that's
not what I want to do.
And it didn't help.
It didn't help my content, itdidn't help my following and it
didn't help my general emotionalstate.
(53:23):
I was just, I was angry, atleast concerning that part.
I was devastated, I wasfrustrated.
I didn't grow as an actor.
And then it was like, okay,let's stop.
It doesn't matter how manyfollowers you're going to lose.
Eventually they will come back,hopefully, and if not, who
(53:47):
cares?
I just want to have fun.
And yes, of course, now I dohave the nice experiences that I
was invited to an auditionbecause of my followers or that
I was booked because of mycontent not the followers, but
the content.
But yeah, now I think I'm in avery healthy state with
Instagram.
I got rid of the responsibility, or of thinking I should have a
(54:07):
responsibility to my followers.
I got rid of the wanting tokeep the following yeah, and now
I'm just.
I think, yes, it's nice tostill have them.
Yeah, I know that people whenI'm on a film festival and
colleagues are like, let'sconnect on Instagram, and the
first thing is, oh my God, whatdid you do?
(54:28):
Were you a serious regular?
And I'm like, eh, I was just afamily influencer.
But yeah, so I just made a hugereset, which took time, and now
I'm just yeah, I'm just playingaround for myself.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Thank you so much.
Like just listening to thislast part.
It really gave me a lot ofgrounding and calmness inside
Because, like you say, we canget so attached to the amount of
followers and keeping thefollowers and finding more
followers and blah, blah blah.
We're just in a machinery thatthat is not particularly good,
neither for our craft or mentalwell-being?
Speaker 2 (55:03):
no, absolutely not, and I think sorry, I want to add
this the thing is, the rightpeople will find us because,
having a huge following amount,most of these people won't be
industry professionals.
They won't give us jobs.
Yes, they will give us a hugeamount of reach and lots of
(55:25):
visibility.
So then, of course, people fromthe industry will see us again
and it will be interesting forproduction companies because of
money and sharing the project,of course.
But there's so many and that'salso what I want to add so many
colleagues who are not onInstagram and who are being
booked.
(55:45):
Do the math.
I think it's a great opportunityto do self-PR, to get yourself
out there, to connect withpeople, like I said, maybe even
connect with casting directorsor be invited, but most of all,
it's just a tool to experienceand express yourself.
(56:05):
Like, I think the most valuablething with Instagram right now
is reading the feedback aboutthe content I do.
If, whether what I intended toportray reached the people or
whether it doesn't matter what Ido.
If, whether what I intended toportray reached the people or
whether it doesn't matter what Ido, 10 people will see
something totally different andtotally grounded me also as an
actor, like people may go okay.
(56:27):
I can't make wrong choices foran audition.
I can't play a role wrong onstage, because everyone will see
differently Just because it'son stage and not 20 people come
afterwards and tell you theirfeedback.
They still have it in theirhead and that's what, basically,
what helps me with Instagramright now.
It doesn't matter what I do.
People will have their owninterpretation.
(56:48):
Anyways, I think it's not aboutthe following.
It's about having a way toexpress yourself as an artist
when you're not being booked.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
So, to wrap up this interview, kevin, can you share
with us one of the roles thatyou would like to get booked on,
or like something that youaspire to do, maybe as an actor,
or that you hope to do at somepoint, whether that's in theater
or film?
A particular role, a particulardirector you would love to work
with?
Do you have a specific goal, oris it something more vague in
(57:18):
regards to energies that youwould like to be surrounded by?
What does the future hold foryou?
Speaker 2 (57:25):
You planted a seed of thought in me that I haven't
had yet, with the energies Iwant to be surrounded with.
That's something I really willtake in and think about.
But I do have a very specificpicture and vision.
I definitely want to be onBridgerton one day.
I actually I'm totally into theaffirmation and manifesting
(57:47):
game and I was sure I was goingto be the gay love part of
Benedict Bridgerton in seasonfour.
Somehow I didn't manifest goodenough because it didn't turn
out into a gay love story butwith a Sophie Beckett or
something.
It's the character.
Now something was leaked sothat did not work.
But, dear universe, there willbe more seasons to come and I
(58:11):
really would love to be inBridgerton, and if not in
Bridgerton then something reallycool historical.
Really would love to be inbridgerton, and if not in
bridgerton then something reallycool historical.
I'd definitely love to do somequeer men portering.
Of course I'd love to do somequeer family, from rom-com to
drama, definitely.
Yeah, I think that's anotherpart where I change.
(58:33):
Maybe I'll change again, butright now I definitely love to
do rom-com and feel good movies,because there's so much going
on in the world.
I think we're coming or I feellike artists or me myself, want
to come back more to the, notonly showing people different
perspectives of life, but justgiving them a break, like I had
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it the other day.
I started what was it?
Fallout on Amazon, and afterepisode two I was like this is
too much blood, too much cruelty, too much corruption and I
stopped.
And then season three ofBridget came out and I was like,
oh God, I love it.
I watched it two times justbecause there's so much going on
(59:16):
in the world.
I just don't want to be throwninto another world of corruption
.
At the end of the day, when Ifinally brought my kids to bed
and hopefully without too muchscreaming around because there
were sibling fights or I was anerve wreck that day and so but
(59:36):
yeah, but that just camerecently that I thought, okay,
that's the content I like towatch.
I want to do that too.
So, yeah, I really would loveto do really good quality, feel
good content.
But yeah, actually really onthe Netflix, amazon Prime,
hollywood level, that would be.
That's my goal.
That's where I want to go.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
I was sending you all that energy you know it may
come from instagram you knowlike and all your beautiful
content that you're creating,thank you.
So do you have any sort ofmantra, guidance, top tip that
you would like to share to anyactor that is listening to us
right now and that is thinkingabout his or her content?
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
you mean specifically concerning instagram or content
on social media?
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
it could be content for other platforms as well.
You know we talked aboutinstagram a lot, but it can be
for other platforms as well, Ithink which is the hardest part,
but still the most importantpart, is just to start.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I think there is no wrong.
Yes, I mean, it depends onwhich generation you come from.
I was born in 88.
So I still have this mantra inmy head the internet never
forgets.
Wake up, today.
There's so much content.
The internet forgets every dayeverything.
(01:00:59):
You can just post something anddelete it five minutes later
and no one will care.
You can post something anddelete it a year later.
I'm doing this course.
It's called tech savvy actors.
It's marketing for actors oninstagram and heidi dean, she's
the coach and and she alwayssays go through your Instagram
or whatever social media once ina while and see, does it still
(01:01:21):
represent your best acting?
And that would be my adviceJust do it, do play around with
it, have fun, don't be scared ofbigger accounts, of better
accounts, of better quality.
Just do it.
And then go through it onceevery two months and see still,
if I watch it myself, do I stilllike watching my own content?
(01:01:41):
And if not, then just delete it.
And then just try until youreally do like your own content
and if you don't like it, thenchange, or if you decide that
you tried the social media gameand you just are not made for it
, then don't.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Stop Love it.
That is so important.
Yeah, that thought of oh, theinternet never forgets.
It's absolutely.
It's an old-fashioned way oflooking at it.
People are overwhelmed withinformation.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Maybe the internet does not forget, but I think the
internet is so overwhelmed thatthey tend to yeah, at least
skip things.
It's just.
That's another good part aboutbeing a small content creator.
Whether you have 50,000, whichis still small in comparison, or
500, really it could be hard.
(01:02:28):
But on the other hand, isn't ita relief?
You can just post it and if 10people saw it and didn't like it
, so what?
You may have a bad day on stageand people will go.
That was brave for him to go onstage, but I could have done
that too.
Of course, they couldn't have.
The most people who willcriticize you are the ones who
(01:02:49):
are not creating contentthemselves.
These are the ones who aregoing to be well.
Isn't that embarrassing to putyourself out there with 36?
Isn't that Instagram, somethingfor 12-year-olds?
But they don't have a publicprofile, they don't post things,
they don't try out.
I think trying something out onInstagram or any other platform
is brave because it could goviral and could lead to a lot of
(01:03:13):
criticism and feedback bothways, good and bad.
So putting yourself out thereis so brave, viral and could
lead to a lot of criticism andfeedback both ways, good and bad
.
So putting yourself out thereis so brave, and I think that's
one of the most important thingsI learned for myself as an
actor that I have to be brave,that I have to try and fail.
So, yeah, just go out there andfail terribly and do great the
(01:03:35):
next time.
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Thank you so much, kevin.
This was like really an awesomeconversation.
It inspired me, as well as anactress, so much.
So where can people find youand also Schauspiel Studio,
because I know you have your ownacting studio in Frankfurt as
well?
Where can they find more aboutyou and the studio you?
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
can find me on kevinsilvagita, my first and
last name on Instagram.
That's basically actually all Ido.
I have, I claimed my accountson all the other platforms, but
I only post on Instagram becauseI would get lost.
Different platforms, differentcontent I just do Instagram,
period, and if I have a showreel, I post it on my YouTube.
(01:04:16):
That's it.
And you can also find Sch.
And if I have a showreel, Ipost it on my YouTube, that's it
.
And you can also findSchauspielstudio Frankfurt,
which is my.
Yeah, it's a working space.
I founded it a year ago with adirector and we meet every week
and everyone is invited.
You can just, if you're fromGermany or if you ever visit
Frankfurt on a Tuesday, just hitus up on Instagram and ask and
you can just drop in and we canjust have a good time.
Welcome to the Loud Whisper Takeover podcast.
My name is Cindy Klaas.
As you know by now, I'm anaction actress, also emerging
filmmaker.
So one of the questions I'vebeen asking myself is how do I
create content for my Instagram?
As an actress, Somehow, itreally seems simple.
As a dancer and as a personthat does action or
(00:21):
movement-based stuff, you justfilm yourself doing your thing.
But as an actor, it almostfeels like well, if you haven't
been working on a project andyou haven't been booked on doing
a film, a feature film, a shortfilm or a series, what the hell
do you post on your Instagramother than saying, hi, I'm doing
another casting.
So recently I met an actorbased in Germany called Kevin.
(00:44):
I met him on a platform that iscalled the Actor's Home and
when I looked at his Instagram,I'm like, hmm, he might have
found a formula that works.
I must speak to him.
So please welcome Kevin fromGermany.
Hi, Kevin, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
doing.
Hi, cindy, I am fantastic.
Thank you so much for having me, and I love the introduction
because, yeah, I don't know, Idon't want to say I have the
answer, but I feel like formyself at least, I can answer a
big yes with your question formyself.
So, yeah, I love being here.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I was so excited because when I looked at your
Instagram, I thought okay, if Ihad to walk in the shoes of a
casting director or a filmdirector, I would get a sense of
who you are as an actorstraight away.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, that's the point right.
So, yes, good, good.
Thank you so much for thatfeedback.
Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I love it.
Yeah, no, I thought like yourcontent was just incredible and
really inspiring and I thought,okay, this guy is really finding
stuff, because I would say,usually, speaking, when I look
at you know, actors that kind ofyou know have a lot of
followers on Instagram.
Usually they do sketches andthey do really cool sketches and
(01:54):
but I'm like, okay, I'm notreally in that category as an
actress, but when I looked atyour Instagram, there was a
variety of of pieces of content,from sketch to simple acting to
, and you seem to just be in aflow creatively.
So let's start from the startwho are you as a human being,
(02:15):
where are you based and what ismaking your world as an actor?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
All right, my name is Kevin Silvagita.
I am a 36-year-oldGerman-Canadian actor.
I have both citizenshipsbecause my mom was born in
Netherlands but she moved toCanada when she was six and then
she came back when she studiedto Germany, anyway.
So I have the Canadiancitizenship from my mom, the
German citizenship from myfather.
I live in Germany.
(02:39):
I basically lived here all mylife.
I lived a year with my unclewhen I did grade 11 in Vancouver
.
My mom raised us bilingual.
Yeah, I live in the middle ofGermany, which is.
The town is called Großgira,which sounds very German, lots
of consonants, and I always sayit's Grand Giraud.
I make it sound French.
(03:01):
So it sounds more multicultural, but it's a really small town,
but it's close to Frankfurt andanyway.
So this is more multicultural,but it's a really small town,
but it's close to Frankfurt andanyway.
So this is me.
I live here on the outskirts ofFrankfurt, I guess you could
say, with my husband, two fosterkids, 10 chicken, two roosters
and three turtles.
I am a part-time flightattendant.
That's how my husband and I met.
(03:21):
I am a trained actor.
How my husband and I met.
I am a trained actor.
Yeah, and I just, I think,especially in the last two years
I made a big journey of findingmyself because I had a really
we'll go into that if you wantto, I don't mind.
We had a really tough break inour life and I went to therapy
(03:44):
and with the process of therapyI actually first I just, I think
a week ago I had the thought Ijust really now got to know
myself.
So, yeah, this is quite alreadydeep, but this is me.
Simple question, long answerthis is me.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I love it.
I absolutely love it becauseI'm sure that once I'm going to
ask you questions about howyou're creating your content,
it's probably very much inspiredby who you are as a human being
and your life journey.
First, I would love to ask yousome questions about fatherhood.
From our pre-podcastconversations, I understood that
becoming a father of two fosterchildren is that correct?
(04:23):
Becoming a father of two fosterchildren is that correct?
Seemed to have been a reallybig event in your life, so could
you talk to me more about whatit means for you to be a father
and how that maybe perhapsimpacted your acting career in
general or how you perceivedyour craft in general as well,
that's a nice, really reallynice and thoughtful question,
really really nice, thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That's a nice, really really nice and thoughtful
question, really really nice,thank you.
Well, being a queer man,children don't come easily and
naturally, of course, and whenmy husband and I met, we are
both we're 17 years apart, so Iwas 21 and she was 37, turning
38.
And having kids was a veryelemental part of our
(05:08):
relationship, although we didn'tknow, we didn't really talk
about it, but like thesefundamental things like family
loyalty, they were always partof our common sense, I'd say.
And then, when I turned 24,yeah, we talked about having,
wanting to have, have kids, andthe journey was just rocky.
Like, how do you do it?
(05:30):
Do you ask a friend?
Do you want to have a trianglerelationship?
Do you want to be like apatchwork family?
Do you do a surrogate, which isforbidden in Germany and
expensive?
Do you adopt?
Can you adopt?
Where do you adopt?
How many kids are there foradoption?
How many heterosexual couplesare there?
(05:50):
And after almost a year, we feltlike we won't have kids at all.
And then, because we neverwanted to have foster kids,
because foster kids they'redifficult, you never know what
you're going to get, you alwayshave to handle the original
family.
And so we said, no, fosterfamily, no, no way.
(06:11):
But before not having kids atall, we decided to at least have
a glimpse to the road of fosterfamily.
And, yeah, we thought that kindof suits us even best, because
these are kids who who don'thave anyone to love them, not by
(06:34):
fault of the biological parents, but just because of bad
circumstances or because of badbiological background of the
biological parents themselves.
So the more we went into theprocess of becoming foster
parents, we thought, okay, thisis going to be tough, but I
(06:57):
think this is going to be ourway of becoming a family.
And, yeah, then, after a verylong journey of I think almost a
year, we decided to be ready.
And then the foster care peopledecided that we would be ready.
And then we had in September2015, we got our first child and
(07:22):
two years later, our secondchild.
And thinking that I would neverhave kids in the end, having
kids was, yeah, I don't know,unbelievable.
It's hard to describe.
I think I cried a lot in thattime, especially tears of joy,
because it was so we almostthought we would give up.
(07:43):
We almost thought, okay, thiswas worth a try, but we won't
have kids.
And then we did get kids.
It was so, I don't know, it'sdifficult to describe, because
you depend on people not likebiological, heterosexual, let's
say, or lesbians, who can justask for a sperm donator, which
is quotation marks easier.
(08:04):
You can just go and do it Sorryto say it that blunt and then,
of course, you have to be luckyto get pregnant, but you can at
least do it, and there's no onewho's sitting there and saying
you can't, you can, you can, youcan.
And there we are sitting,loving each other really a lot
and having a really strongrelationship, thinking we can do
(08:25):
it.
And then there's people gettingto decide and judge who we are
and if we're worthy enough ofbecoming parents or not.
And then having kids and reallybeing able to give the love we
always wanted to give was yeah,was a life-changing moment
definitely, which also had a bigimpact as a human being, of
(08:51):
course, because I think the mostimportant thing I learned as an
actor being a parent is itdoesn't matter at all, none of
the additions, none of the jobs,they don't matter.
What really matters is that mykids are healthy, that they're
happy, that they're protectedand that I can be there for them
(09:12):
, and the rest is just.
It's nice to have, of course,and of course I'm ambitious and
eager and I really want to workas a film star and I want to be
in Hollywood and everything.
But it doesn't matter In theend.
At the end of the day, it justdoes not matter, and I think
that was the hardest and bestlessons I learned being a father
(09:35):
.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And may I ask so?
Because obviously in thefostering system it's not the
same as adoption, but in somefostering systems, like, kids
might have to change familiesquite often and then in some
fostering circumstances it canactually be a lifetime.
Uh, are you kids with you forprobably a lifetime, or are you
still in a temporary sort ofphase where, where it could, no,
(10:00):
no?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
there's never a hundred percent.
But I always have this veryharsh and black example.
But at one point I have to letgo of my child and when they
have an accident, a car accident, and they die, it's terrible.
But I, you know, like I neverhave 100%, I can never protect
(10:21):
kids 100%, and that's how Idescribe being a long-term
foster parent.
Like I don't have 100% thatthey will stay with me Because
technically, by law, thebiological parents always will
have a chance of, at least bylaw, having them back.
But both kids have been with ussince now six and almost ten
(10:44):
years.
So no, six and eight years,sorry.
And there is no contact at allwith the biologic parents.
So after a certain time,psychologists and the court,
they really look deep and lookclose.
And then where's the center offamily of the kids?
And obviously it's with us.
Both found a sibling with eachother.
(11:05):
They've been longer with usthan they have been with their
biological parents.
They've been with us basicallya lifetime.
So chances are zero, close tozero, but there's never a
hundred percent.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But yeah, we are their parents and they stay with
us till they are, till they canstand on their own feet,
whenever that may be beautifuland I want to ask obviously I
can hear in your story, um, thatyou had to overcome a lot of,
like you say, like the system issort of, you know, putting a
(11:39):
judgment on you as as a couple,as two men, as everything that
sort of involves you as a humanbeing, if you will be a
responsible couple for thesechildren and stuff.
I'm sure that all the emotionalaspect has informed you as an
actor, all that journey, theemotional journey.
But you as a father, like therelationship between you and
(12:02):
your kids, is that inspiring youto create content?
Or is your content nothing todo with being a father?
Like the relationship betweenyou and your kids, is that
inspiring you to create content,or is your content?
Has your content nothing to dowith being a father?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
um, that also changed .
Like um, I started instagrambecause of the kids, because my
husband and I uh wanted to beidols, representatives for
foster parents, for rainbowfamilies families as we say in
Germany I don't know if that'san international term and we
actually were the first Germangay couple with kids being like
(12:34):
a family influencer profile onInstagram.
That's how I even found my wayto Instagram.
And then, three years ago Ithink, we decided to stop and
our content was always verypolitical, obviously because
it's a political topic, whetherwe want to or not.
(12:54):
And then there's lots of rightmovements in Europe and, of
course, in Germany, sadly too,so we always felt like we had to
in Germany, sadly too, so wealways felt like we had to speak
up.
We almost had 100,000 followerson Instagram, so we always felt
like we had a responsibility aswell.
So not only showing our dailylife we never showed the kids up
(13:18):
front, only from the back.
We were always very cautiouswith that but not only inspiring
gay men to to think abouthaving kids, but also for
society, opening up, givingdifferent perspectives.
So that was always veryimportant.
And then, when we stopped doingthe influencer profile as a
(13:39):
family and I started taking overas an actor, I had the ambition
and the thought I have theresponsibility to do political
and important topics for thesociety.
So I started doing sketcheswhich concerned LGBTQ or foster
family.
And then I made another journeyand it kind of did not feel not
(14:06):
only right, not right anymore,but also it took so much time
writing down this, this scripts,and I felt like it was not
attached to being an actoranymore, but it was more
attached to being important orto trying to fight important
topics for society, trying tofind important topics for
(14:27):
society.
And I made the switch insideand then outside that I thought,
no, I want this to be more of ajourney for myself as an actor.
And then I stopped doing thesesketches and I tried to find
other channels and now I'm justtrying to concentrate on just
being an actor.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And I also know that one of your children has a
disability I'm not sure if it'sa physical disability or
something else.
Are you open to maybe talkabout it a little bit and how
that actually impacts you aswell as a human being and as an
actor?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, well, that's basically.
That was the reason why westopped our family profile,
because it's an emotionaldisability.
It's caused by alcohol abuse inthe pregnancy.
It's called FASD I think FASDis the international term it's
fatal alcohol syndrome disorderand it affects huge parts of the
(15:24):
brain, of the learning processof repetition.
It's huge and when we got thediagnosis we didn't feel being
that secure anymore to talkabout our private life.
My husband and I, we carry ourthoughts in our tongue.
We are open books.
That's fine.
It will always be like this.
(15:45):
It was always fine for us.
But when that happened, I haveto go back a little bit further.
When we decided to have kids,we said no disability, we can
handle lots of things a missingarm, missing leg but we cannot
rebuild our house for someonewith a wheelchair just because
(16:06):
we don't.
We just can't.
We would love to, but we justcan't.
But emotional disabilities wecannot handle.
And then, after having thischild for so long, it turned out
to having a disability which wenever wanted.
So we were devastated like ourdream crushed.
Lots of future options wethought we would have never will
(16:30):
never happen, never.
That's why I said earlier theycan stay as long as they need to
.
They can stay as long as theyneed to.
This one child will probablystay with us forever, until we
decide to pick a care home.
Um, and that also, you know, oneone part is a shift.
(16:51):
It shifted the perspective ofwanting a big part of my life
private again, and it also putso many things into perspective
again Again.
So many things are just notimportant.
So, yeah, I guess also it mademe even more open to my emotions
(17:16):
.
It made me connect even morewith myself, really look into
what's really.
What do I really want to spendmy time with?
Do I want to create sketches tomake people laugh, or create
sketches to to maybe helpsociety, or do I now want to
(17:38):
grow as an actor?
And that's why that's why Ialso, yeah, changed with with
this big impact.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, thank you so much for sharing all of that
because I think, whether peopleare going, you know, through
parenthood or other, some ofsome of the challenging moments
of life, I think you touched ona lot of very strong topics when
it comes to content creation,it's boundaries.
Where do I say this is what I'mnot sharing.
This is where I want this partof my life to be private,
(18:11):
because, also, a lot of peoplein marketing say, oh, share your
authentic self, your real self,and you also have to know,
actually, which part of my realselves am I going to share and
which parts I'm not going toshare now, because this is part
of the private sector and that'swhy I want to jump in what you
described and said in thebeginning.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I don't share any big private things and yet you said
you get a perfect sense of whoI am as an actor, as a human
being.
So it is possible.
That's why I just want to jumpin.
It is possible.
You don't have to step overboundaries because you're afraid
that you may not be able toshow your best as a human being
(18:51):
and an actor in this specificniche of acting people.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And I will ask you further, really in detailed
questions, about your content.
But first, I want people reallyto have, you know, an overview
of who you are so that we canreally see oh, that's how he
created his content or kind of,you know, build a bridge between
what he does in his everydaylife and what he posts on
Instagram.
So the second thing that is, Iguess, of some sort of influence
(19:20):
in your life is that you have apart-time job as a flight
attendant.
So I'm sure you must have tonsof anecdotes in regards to
flying all the time and managingschedules and being a dad.
But is there any content thatyou would say is influenced by
your job of being a flightattendant?
Or, again, are you totallystepping away from that and it
(19:41):
doesn't really impact yourcontent?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
at all.
It does Like I do have a fewsketches as a flight attendant
and then, I don't know, I'llprobably do some sketches again.
It's just.
I really see, especiallyInstagram has a huge opportunity
to just play around and seewhat just happened, what suits I
mean.
Of course, if you ask theseInstagram gurus and coaches,
(20:05):
they'd say pick a niche, stickto it, yay.
But I think we actors have tostep away.
We have to step away from thatperspective, because I think
that's important if you reallywant to grow a huge following
ship, which can be cool, ofcourse, but it's really
difficult nowadays having somany people do it.
(20:26):
I think important is that whathappens is what you described in
the beginning and that's alsowhat a writer feedback me.
There was a job for a reallycool commercial which is going
to air in September and theydidn't even look at my show reel
because they just went throughmy Instagram and saw the
sketches.
When I was cast for the job, Idid more sketches and he said he
(20:50):
totally got the vibe and hewanted me to do the part, to
play the part because of thesketches.
Yes, I do have over 50,000followers, but he said they
don't care about the following.
It was just about my contentand the way I presented myself
that he said he wants to workwith me and that's why I'm
(21:13):
saying I think we can, as actors, step away from this.
Okay, we have to pick a niche.
For some people it works.
I do have like two or threeGerman content creators who are
actors, who really stick totheir niche and it works for
them.
But they are already famous,they already have over 200,000
followers and sure they only canpost a sketch once every two
(21:39):
weeks and that's totally fine.
But for me, I really just Iwanted to go back to this.
Yeah, what do I want?
And so I did some flightattendant sketches, but then I
stepped away from it too,because, again, I felt like I
was forcing to do content justbecause people now expect me to
(21:59):
do them.
Because I was.
I I didn't fly for over eightyears because I was on parental
leave and then I took, uh, some,um, two years, um, what's it?
Unemployed, uh, holidays, Idon't know what's the german or
the term like parental, on aparental leave, as if you have
the kids, but kids, but then youcan be on long-term leave
(22:24):
without being paid Sabbatical,yeah, but it's longer.
It's not like a sabbatical, is,I think, just a year, or is it,
I don't know.
Anyway, super long sabbatical,a two-year sabbatical exactly.
And then I came back doing theflight attendant thing and I
posted about it and then I hadthe feeling, ok, oh, people
(22:45):
liked it.
And again I myself I fell.
I stepped into the trap of oh,people like the content of the
flight attendant thing, let's domore of it.
And then I again, I was like no, but now I'm doing it because
people expect me to do it moreof it.
And then again I was like no,but now I'm doing it because
people expect me to do it, butthat's not why and how I want to
(23:06):
approach my Instagram.
So I stepped away from it.
I'll do some again, maybe, butbecause, yes, of course it does
inspire me, because I meet lotsof people, which is what acting,
I guess, is all about.
Looking at people, guess, isall about looking at people,
observing people.
It does inspire me always as ahuman being.
Yeah, but again I stepped awayfrom it because I didn't want to
be forced to do it, justbecause it's expected of me and
(23:30):
you were talking about sketches,so I saw some sketches on your
Instagram and during our pre orpre-podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
We were also talking about the fact that you like
making people laugh.
Would you describe yourself asbeing a comedy actor, or would
you say no, no, no, I'm doingcastings and my dream roles are
both comedy and also loads ofother stuff.
Or would you kind of say, no,comedy is really my niche.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's really difficult .
I'm still trying to figure thatout because I haven't worked
Until two years ago.
I was out of the business, ofthe acting business and of
flight attendant businessbecause I took care of the kids.
And ever since then I'm tryingto figure out.
Like I always used to be theweird one or the strange one, so
(24:19):
I always thought, ok, I one orthe strange one.
So I always thought, okay, I'lldo like the Heath Ledger roles,
like I'll be the weird one,I'll be the villain who's going
to have a crazy story and that'sgoing to be my thing.
But no, that's not me.
And then my husband always saidI'm really funny when I'm not
trying to be funny.
So I thought, okay, thisdoesn't make sense to be in the
(24:39):
comedy business if I only can doit when I don't want to do it.
And now I want to do and wantto be funny for a casting.
I'm not, so that's not going towork.
But then kind of with I did lotsof advertisements, lots of
commercials and it was alwayskind of funny.
So I thought, okay, maybe I canbe this funny guy, but not like
(25:00):
comedy, stand up funny, butlike really in a, in a, in a
nice funny way.
And then I did lots ofworkshops and discovered that I
was the rom-com guy, that Icould be like the love interest
which I never thought of myself,never I wouldn't.
But anyways, I got the feedbackyou could be kind of the love
interest, and so now I guess Istill don't know if that's
(25:25):
completely my niche, but I'd sayI'm the rom-com love interest
which combines the comedy, butnot in a so funny way, but in oh
my god, that that's really cuteor that that makes me smart,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, I think that's my niche and then you
also had a role in a germanseries like a police series
called yeah, it's but that, yeah, but that's it was for.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Like the tatort is um a movie like they, they, the,
the, the police officers, theyalways they stay for years and
years.
But all the other roles onlyappear in one movie.
And I had a supporting role inone of those Tatots, yes, which
is of course not comedy and notrom-com and not love interest
and nothing.
So, yeah, we'll see where thatgoes.
(26:12):
I think rom-com, love interestcould work, but I don't know.
The Tardot is airing in twoweeks on a festival and then in
October it will be airing inGerman television.
So we'll see.
I don't know, maybe after thatI'll be the.
I don't know, we'll see.
I don't want to spoil too much.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Okay, awesome, you are an actor.
You are still exploring whereyou could get most jobs, but
you're open to everything, butrom-com seems to be where people
like to see you in.
You are a flight attendant.
You are creating content.
So tell me about your contentnow, because there are different
pieces of content.
(26:53):
Do you have like categories ofcontent, um, or do you just come
up with stuff, or how does itwork?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I think it's always.
It flows and it's a journey.
Like you said, I had thesketches, or I have the sketches
, which is, of course it's onepart, but I haven't done them in
a very long time, I'd say,because it's just so much going
on.
Now we are, the kids are inholidays, so I don't have much
time to write down sketches orto write down any big things.
(27:24):
Plus, yeah, I felt stuck, so Iget.
I think it's what I learned isnot to do the content for
Instagram and the people, but todo it for myself, to grow and
experience.
I did.
What definitely is one of thethings I do is like a right-left
(27:45):
thing, like I lip syncsomething from a movie which is
on Instagram and then I do it intwo different versions.
Like I don't know, I smile tillone word and the other version
is I start smiling on that oneword and then just write down
what's.
Which one is more effective?
Or I do one with hate and onewith love, where one knows the
secret.
One doesn't like these sort ofthings.
(28:07):
I really like doing thesemyself because I really like to
see myself how such a big, likeit's not really open to just you
know, just do something.
It's it's really strict, likedo this and then do that, and
for me that's really nice workto see.
Okay, what would happen if adirector would come and say,
(28:28):
okay, I really want it to bethis way, how can I do that,
still authentically?
And and I I give myself tasksto grow as an actor and and with
the left-right thing, it's forme to see, okay, how can I do it
as authentic as possible with areally strict objective and
then see how people respond andif it even reaches them.
(28:51):
What I want to do.
And now, one of the mostcontent I create is my daily
acting challenge, which is, just, I just pick a very famous
movie quote, or I didShakespeare to be or not to be,
and then I just play around withit.
I just I do my warmup, I just Itry to get into the groove and
(29:15):
then I just say the sentence 10times.
Sometimes I scream them,sometimes I give myself like,
okay, let's try to say itbecause my husband cheated on me
.
Or let's say, okay, I'll do itbecause I hate someone.
And then I just say the samesentence, but with a different
intention in my head.
(29:36):
And, yeah, I just play aroundwith one sentence and see how it
affects me, where I try to notbe stuck to the rhythm of the
obvious way of saying thesentence, but to just see how do
I feel inside.
Okay, I'll pronounce this nowdifferently, that sort of thing.
(30:01):
So it's basically, it's alwaysjust where, at least now.
It took me a long time to getthere, but now for me it's just
experiencing myself and, likethe reminder, reminding myself,
because that's what you said inthe beginning Dancers they
practice every day.
They dance.
Singers they sing every daybecause that's the instrument.
(30:22):
Other musicians they practicetheir instrument every single
day, but just actors don't, onlywhen an audition comes up or
when they're booked.
They just don't.
I didn't and I thought but Iwant to know my instrument by
heart and I want it to workwhenever it has to.
And so the daily actingchallenge was more like a thing.
(30:46):
I started doing it withoutInstagram.
I started doing it two monthsago, I think.
And then I thought that's weird.
You're on Instagram, everyonetells you to create content and
you're creating it basicallyevery day and you just don't
post it why?
And then I just thought come on, it's a movie.
It's a movie called.
Everyone Knows, it's not likeI'm copying something which is
not out yet, it's not from aself-tape which I'm not allowed
(31:10):
to post.
It's not something I cannotpost or I have to be like
secretly about.
No, it's something everyoneknows.
Or I picked some quotes fromBridget.
Maybe next time I'll dosomething from the Bear.
Whatever, I'll take somethingwhich is what I like, what I
feel good about, and then I'lljust record it and then I'll
just pick five differentversions and then I'll just post
(31:33):
it.
It's like it takes me five to10 minutes to create it which I
do anyways because I want topractice as an actor and then it
takes me maybe two or threeminutes to edit, because it's
not anymore about the.
Okay, I have to write a realcool caption.
No, I just do the subtitle withthe one line I do, and then I
(31:56):
do five hashtags or whatever,and then I'll just post it, and
sometimes only 50 people do aheart.
But the thing is, I think if acasting director goes on to my
profile, they'll see okay, cool,he's doing something and then,
even if they don't like it, itdoesn't matter, but they'll see
(32:17):
it.
There's something, because Idid this workshop with a social
media coach, for I don't thinkshe was especially for actors,
but she said for actors, shetransformed it for actors and
she said social media isbasically like Google search and
the SEO of social media is muchmore higher ranked than any
(32:41):
other content we create, likeeven in our casting profiles.
They appear much lower thanYouTube or Instagram or whatever
.
So even if they don't go orthey don't look at us on
Instagram, what most castingdirectors today do, they'll do
it on Google and then my reelswill pop up from Instagram or
(33:03):
TikTok and they probably look onit, especially if it says 30
seconds, because usually youhave 30 seconds but sometimes
you don't have the three minutesfrom a whole reel.
You look and, yeah, sometimespeople actually want to work
with me, or I was invited forauditions because of my
instagram profile and and againit's it changes.
(33:27):
Maybe in in two months.
I won't do the daily actinganymore because I feel maybe I'm
bored of myself and I'll lookfor something else.
It's just a playground and Ithink there's no right or wrong.
It's just a matter of how youfeel.
But and you can always delete,like I did that two weeks ago I
thought oh God, this sketch isreally cheesy.
(33:48):
Cut it out and I thought oh myGod, that's not my best acting
in that sketch.
Take it out.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I really love how very how you're very clear on
okay, I'm creating content notjust to get followers, not just
to get likes, but just because Iwant to have flipping fun with
my acting and with my craft, andI think that's really what
attracted me to your Instagramaccount is, yeah, this guy is
practicing, learning, growingand having freaking fun with the
(34:14):
fact that he's an actor, and Ithink that we really see all
that.
So, just to summarize, I wouldsay that there are sketches on
your Instagram.
So the sketches.
You need a bit more time tothink about it, to write it and
to feel inspired.
You have this left right type ofcontent.
So same sentence, but bothcharacters have a different feel
(34:35):
about the sentence.
One is sad, one is happy, oneis cheeky and the other one is
you is happy, one is cheeky andthe other one is, you know, a
murderer or whatever.
And then you create these dailyacting challenges which is one
sentence and going throughdifferent whys of how you say it
, why you say it and so forthyesterday I even posted one with
just drinking, because I'mreading a book just right now.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's um respect for acting with by utah hagen, and
um, the one topic I just readyesterday was about actions and
doings and I thought that's cool.
Let's just see how I can drinkwater with different types of
behaving of, of work, likestereotypes, whatever.
You know like, maybe I'll dothat the other next time when I
(35:15):
cook, I'll chop the cucumber andI'll go like, okay, I was
betrayed.
Or you know like, yeah, I'mjust, but I'm just playing
around.
Yeah, but these are, I guessyou could say these are the
three topics I post about.
Then, of course, if I have ajob I was booked for and I get
content, I get to post, I postthat too.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, so I want to talk about production quality
and how big of a productionthere is behind the scenes,
because sometimes you have anormal background that we would
use as a self-tape backgroundand sometimes, as you said, I've
seen a few stuff of yours thatare being done in the kitchen,
for example.
So do you have just a cameraand a mic?
(35:55):
Do you set up lighting?
Do you have a whole crew thatwe are not aware of, or how how
much production is going on?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
no, it's just me, it's really just me, it's just
my cell phone.
I got the new, a new smartwatchfrom my husband for my birthday
, which is really cool, becausenow I don't do it with the front
camera anymore, but now I canum, they're, they're connected,
the phone and the, the, thesmartwatch.
So now I can take the maincamera, which of course has a
(36:24):
better quality, and then I canjust look onto my watch and see
okay, am I on in frame?
That's the one thing I changedto get a better quality of my
filming.
And then I just have one lightwhich I'm using right now too.
It's just on a stand and it hasa warm light and cold light and
(36:46):
I could just dim it.
I don't.
I have a microphone which I'mnot using right now.
Sometimes I use it.
Most times I forget about it,but honestly, it's fine.
I know nowadays theseinfluencers, they all they have
these cool thing and they talkabout it even with their in
their regular videos.
I know nowadays theseinfluencers, they all have these
cool things and they talk aboutit even in their regular videos
.
If you scroll through, I comingfrom this influencer background
.
I still have some influencers Ifollow, and then I see this and
(37:08):
I'm like, okay, do I have to doit too?
And then I listen to my videos.
I'm like I don't see the needof paying 200 euros or I don't
know 50 bucks for.
So it's very low profile.
I do have a colleague.
He has a studio with this hugeLED background and we're trying
to find a date to do contenttogether.
(37:29):
So maybe in two or three monthsthere will be content which is
definitely higher, betterproduced.
But basically it's just me.
I mean there's apps.
What do I use?
Mostly I just use InShot andthen you can have different
backgrounds.
I pick backgrounds fromaircrafts, I go on to Google, to
(37:51):
stock images, and then I just,if I do the sketches, I look for
backgrounds I want to use andthen with InShot shot, you can
just crop out your backgroundand then you can put the other
one behind.
That's a little bit more tricky, but still it's just.
At the moment the content on myinstagram is just me, myself and
my instrument, because that'sthat's another thing, because I
(38:13):
took so much, it took so muchtime to, to, to, to look for the
, for the backgrounds to go.
Okay, I don't like now thequality of the background and
the transition to myself did notwork.
Do I now buy, like, the proversion of InShot?
Do I buy another app which isbetter and it was like no?
(38:33):
Back to the basics.
I want to experience andexpress my instrument.
I want to see what I'm capableof without any big tum-tum.
There's other greatInstagrammers, content creators,
actors, actresses who doamazing videos with probably
(38:57):
either a team or really goodequipment, which is totally fine
, but no, I want to be the actorwhere people go like.
Isn't that the guy who doesjust the quotes and just does
the quotes?
Isn't that so cool that I wantto be that guy?
Maybe, I don't know, maybe I'llstop at half a year and I'll
never get to the point.
I want to keep it simple.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, that's why I invited you on the podcast.
This guy does doing these coolcodes, you know, on Instagram.
I find super interesting.
So I have another question foryou, an important one, because
you're a multilingual actor andI also speak several languages.
I'm sure there are manylisteners and actors that speak
different languages.
How do you decide which pieceof content you're going to do in
(39:40):
German and which piece ofcontent you're going to do in
English?
Is that just well, I feel thevibe, or is that more of well?
I want to book this kind ofjobs.
How do you make that choice?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I switched, I'd say, three or two weeks ago, recently
to English.
I did everything in German andI had a talk with my agent
because I had three or fourmajor international castings
this year, which none of them Ibooked.
But I got them.
And since I am good withEnglish, I thought I want to
(40:10):
work internationally.
And then I had this talk withmy agent.
We didn't talk about Instagram,but after that I thought, if I
want to represent myself as aninternational actor, or at least
a bookable international actor,I should make my content
international.
So let's just make it inEnglish and that's it.
(40:31):
I mean, what's the what's?
One of the quotes I read.
I didn't pick it, but frankly,my dear, I don't give a damn.
Germans will know which movieit's from and if not, they can
Google it.
They're like oh my God, calebwas gone with the wind, but it's
just a sentence.
So in the end, especially forthese contents, it's just a
sentence.
And even if a German castingdirector would look to my
(40:54):
profile and go like, oh my's,all english, but still it, it's,
it's my acting, you know what Imean?
Like I, I'm pretty sure germancasting directors would still
get ah, that's kevin silva,that's the vibe of him, that's
his essence and so, yeah, it'sjust recently I started to do it
in english everything, thecaptions, the hashtags, my
(41:18):
everything because I want towork and be booked
internationally.
So that's the reason.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
So you already shared that some casting directors
have called you in because ofyour content of Instagram, or
that you even booked jobsbecause a film director or
somebody that was casting for acommercial saw your Instagram
content and were like, yeah,he's the guy.
What does your agent think ofyour content?
Does your agent repost it?
(41:48):
Does that also generate youknow reposts and that sort of
things?
Or is there any enthusiasm thatcomes, you know, from your
content in that way?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Oh, I know that he is totally supportive about it and
then he loves everything I do.
He's just not the big posterhimself.
So he's always do whatever youwant.
Just don't be mad if I don'talways repost.
I actually I don't mark him.
Coming to think about it, Idon't like if it's something
booking wise, yes, I'll mark himor he'll even post something.
(42:21):
But just this daily things, I'mjust, I don't even.
I don't even add my agencybecause I'm like that's just,
that's.
It's part of the puzzle to getbookings or to get auditions,
but I feel it's not necessarilyattached to my agency.
(42:44):
I think it would even feelweird if he'd repost everything
I'm doing, because there, whenit comes to agency, I think
there's definitely thisprofessional cut where you go
okay, that's agency, so that'sbookings, because that's helpful
(43:17):
for the agency to showthemselves that they have
working, or actors, actresseswho are asked for additions.
But creating content like I'mdoing, I think has nothing to do
with the agency and is no needto be even seen on my agency's
side.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And so an additional question is about the call to
action.
So call to action is, you know,for listeners is when you do an
Instagram post or a post onsocial media and you ask your
audience to do something.
So, for example, please commentbelow, do you prefer A or B?
Click on the poll, that sort ofthings.
Does your content include acall to action and, if so, do
(44:01):
you do it with awareness orabsolutely not?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Never.
I think some of my or I think Istarted trying to do the
sketches with this in my mind.
Like I do a loop, I'd write itso that the ending would
directly lead back to thebeginning again, because I
thought that I actually there'sa few sketches which are really,
(44:26):
when I see them on othercontent creators pages, which
are really nice because they endwith, but and then they start
again with, because that sort ofthing.
So it's like a loop and you canwatch on and on, and sometimes
it takes three times to realizethat it's already, that it
already played three times.
I thought that was funny and soI started doing this again,
(44:46):
because I also knew thatInstagram liked replays a lot,
and then sometimes I tried toimplement a question into the
sketch, but then again I noticedit's really holding me back or
it's like I'm stepping into thisloop again, trying to do or to
create content for Instagraminstead of creating art.
(45:09):
And so now I just know I knowthat there's a lot of.
I think it comes from TikTokand I see it now on Instagram.
Sometimes, too, they go likeI'll take you with me on my
daily acting blog.
In German they say make theplus disappear for more.
(45:29):
Like it's the, it's the call toaction for follow.
Like, follow me for more.
Like they'll end every videowith follow me for more, because
eventually I get it.
I guess it will work, thatpeople will follow um, and which
is totally fine, I get it.
I was in that on in that huntinggame myself.
(45:50):
Like I will.
I.
We had 100 000 followers.
I was like, oh my god, this iscool.
And yes, I do get it.
And yes, I know that numbers domatter and that numbers can
also lead to bookings.
But that's the crucial part.
Like you can step so easilyinto that trap of just serving
(46:14):
Instagram instead of servingyour own craft.
And for me, I had the influencerthing.
I had the huge follower amountand I know how stressful it can
be.
So I guess I have a differentperspective.
Like, I still lose followers.
I don't grow because and it'ssimple as that and I can
(46:34):
understand it it's totally fineI had, like a magazine with the
topic of furnishing and then Ichanged the editorial of that
magazine to motorcycles from nowto the next day and of course,
the readers of the magazine withfurnishing are not interested
(46:55):
or didn't buy that magazinebecause of motorcycles, but
because of furnishing, andthat's what's happening with my
Instagram account still.
So it's totally fine that allthese people all these moms
mostly who still follow mebecause of our rainbow family
daily lives they don't want tosee acting or they're not
interested in me experimentingaround with one if they don't
want to see acting or they'renot interested in me
experimenting around with one,so that's totally fine.
(47:16):
But, yeah, so I do get it and Itotally understand why people
add these call to action things.
Yeah, I just sometimes I findthem really what do you say
nowadays cringe, like I findthem embarrassing or I find them
really so much on the nose andI'm like okay, now it's kind of
(47:39):
I feel like people understoodthe Instagram game by now that
you don't really need the callto action anymore.
People know how it works.
Like at some time, if I repostmy content into my story, I'll
do, I'll go to the gifs and putshare, and then I'll see the
heart, the share thing, the savething, and then I'll just add
it on the bottom or write share,comment, because sometimes
(48:02):
people need the reminder andthey also do the stories telling
people that it is important tointeract with me, to like my
stuff, because then thevisibility grows and that's
important for the business.
I do sometimes mention that inthe stories, but and that's the
thing I don't want to hindermyself, I don't want to serve
Instagram, because that's whatmostly happens the longer people
(48:25):
stay on my profile and on theapp, it helps Instagram.
It doesn't help me, but whatdoes help me is showing my best,
acting, and I think that's howI do it at the moment, with just
trying to take the time toactually act and play around.
(48:47):
So, yeah, no call to actionswith me.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
And I found it so important what you shared,
because it's strange that youhad this position of being an
influencer before pushing theplatform for you as an actor, so
you kind of experienced theother side, but you were able to
make more authentic choicesafterwards and I love that.
You said it's not about servingInstagram, it's about serving
(49:10):
my craft.
I think that's a very powerfulpiece of guidance and advice.
Let's talk about followersbecause, like you said,
followers is not all what weneed and that's not particularly
why we're doing what we'redoing either but it can help,
perhaps getting certain jobs or,eventually, if you have
(49:31):
something to sell, like a courseor whatever, some coaching
sessions or something else ormerch, you can help.
So you have quite a lot offollowers on Instagram.
You have, at this moment intime, about 55,000, 56,000
followers on Instagram.
How did you get those followers?
Is that still, you know, a partof like your influencers
(49:53):
journey?
That sort of brought followersto your page and, like you said,
you also lost many becauseyou're not talking about the
same topics.
And then my second questionthat is linked to that is do you
enjoy it having that amount offollowers or, on the contrary,
does that put pressure on yourshoulders?
Speaker 2 (50:09):
it, it used to.
On the switch it did okay.
So, um, we since I guess we wehad the very lucky position that
we were the first gay germancouple, so of course there was
no competition.
So all the moms who did the,the, the mom blogging, they
shared us and so we grew veryfast, very quickly, and that was
(50:30):
, of course, that was a niceposition, it was nice to have.
And then, with with the switch,lots of people went and in the
beginning I thought I have tokeep as many as possible because
of course I already two yearsago knew, especially coming from
the influencer business,knowing what's possible with a
huge amount of following, I knewhow much money you could earn
(50:55):
or how to which events you'rebeing invited and so I thought,
okay, this definitely must workas well as an actor.
So at the beginning was veryeager, I really wanted to keep
these followers.
I really was desperate everytime I lost a huge like.
Every time the number abovedropped.
(51:16):
I was like, okay, now peoplecan see it again.
Ah, if they're gonna, ifthey're gonna drop in every two
weeks and see, oh my god, he'slosing again, what are they
gonna think about it?
And then I went to events andthey were podium discussions on
film festivals and they're like,okay, starting with 60, 70 000
or starting with 100 000, it'sreally interesting.
(51:36):
As for a production company,and I're like, okay, starting
with 60, 70 000 or starting with100 000, it's really
interesting.
As for a production company,and I'm like, oh, my god, okay,
now I really have to beinventive again and try to find
something to explode again, tohave lots of shares so people
will follow me.
It started again and like that'sthe.
That that was one of thebiggest reliefs we had as a
family when we stopped.
Like we would try.
(51:57):
We would always make sure thatthe family of the kids would
come first, but what did happen?
As an influencer is our brainwould constantly go around
influencing because it was aprivate topic, so it was always
oh, look, the kids are playingnicely.
We could definitely make agreat picture from here, because
you wouldn't notice them.
And then we were like, butshouldn't we just watch our kids
(52:21):
Instead of thinking why wewatch our kids to create content
?
And so that was actually thebiggest relief we had when we
decided.
The reason why we decided tostop was not that I have to be
honest and.
But you know, so it's kind ofweird, but in the end I can say
(52:41):
we were lucky to have a childwith a disability, because it
made us realize a lot about lifeand to handle social media.
And then again that's why Imentioned this it happened again
.
Again I fell into the trap of,okay, what do I do, what's
special about my life, what canI share, to get more followers.
(53:02):
And it took me, I think, a yearuntil I really realized how
much time in my head I spendagain and I was like but that's
not what I want to do.
And it didn't help.
It didn't help my content, itdidn't help my following and it
didn't help my general emotionalstate.
(53:23):
I was just, I was angry, atleast concerning that part.
I was devastated, I wasfrustrated.
I didn't grow as an actor.
And then it was like, okay,let's stop.
It doesn't matter how manyfollowers you're going to lose.
Eventually they will come back,hopefully, and if not, who
(53:47):
cares?
I just want to have fun.
And yes, of course, now I dohave the nice experiences that I
was invited to an auditionbecause of my followers or that
I was booked because of mycontent not the followers, but
the content.
But yeah, now I think I'm in avery healthy state with
Instagram.
I got rid of the responsibility, or of thinking I should have a
(54:07):
responsibility to my followers.
I got rid of the wanting tokeep the following yeah, and now
I'm just.
I think, yes, it's nice tostill have them.
Yeah, I know that people whenI'm on a film festival and
colleagues are like, let'sconnect on Instagram, and the
first thing is, oh my God, whatdid you do?
(54:28):
Were you a serious regular?
And I'm like, eh, I was just afamily influencer.
But yeah, so I just made a hugereset, which took time, and now
I'm just yeah, I'm just playingaround for myself.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Thank you so much.
Like just listening to thislast part.
It really gave me a lot ofgrounding and calmness inside
Because, like you say, we canget so attached to the amount of
followers and keeping thefollowers and finding more
followers and blah, blah blah.
We're just in a machinery thatthat is not particularly good,
neither for our craft or mentalwell-being?
Speaker 2 (55:03):
no, absolutely not, and I think sorry, I want to add
this the thing is, the rightpeople will find us because,
having a huge following amount,most of these people won't be
industry professionals.
They won't give us jobs.
Yes, they will give us a hugeamount of reach and lots of
(55:25):
visibility.
So then, of course, people fromthe industry will see us again
and it will be interesting forproduction companies because of
money and sharing the project,of course.
But there's so many and that'salso what I want to add so many
colleagues who are not onInstagram and who are being
booked.
(55:45):
Do the math.
I think it's a great opportunityto do self-PR, to get yourself
out there, to connect withpeople, like I said, maybe even
connect with casting directorsor be invited, but most of all,
it's just a tool to experienceand express yourself.
(56:05):
Like, I think the most valuablething with Instagram right now
is reading the feedback aboutthe content I do.
If, whether what I intended toportray reached the people or
whether it doesn't matter what Ido.
If, whether what I intended toportray reached the people or
whether it doesn't matter what Ido, 10 people will see
something totally different andtotally grounded me also as an
actor, like people may go okay.
(56:27):
I can't make wrong choices foran audition.
I can't play a role wrong onstage, because everyone will see
differently Just because it'son stage and not 20 people come
afterwards and tell you theirfeedback.
They still have it in theirhead and that's what, basically,
what helps me with Instagramright now.
It doesn't matter what I do.
People will have their owninterpretation.
(56:48):
Anyways, I think it's not aboutthe following.
It's about having a way toexpress yourself as an artist
when you're not being booked.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
So, to wrap up this interview, kevin, can you share
with us one of the roles thatyou would like to get booked on,
or like something that youaspire to do, maybe as an actor,
or that you hope to do at somepoint, whether that's in theater
or film?
A particular role, a particulardirector you would love to work
with?
Do you have a specific goal, oris it something more vague in
(57:18):
regards to energies that youwould like to be surrounded by?
What does the future hold foryou?
Speaker 2 (57:25):
You planted a seed of thought in me that I haven't
had yet, with the energies Iwant to be surrounded with.
That's something I really willtake in and think about.
But I do have a very specificpicture and vision.
I definitely want to be onBridgerton one day.
I actually I'm totally into theaffirmation and manifesting
(57:47):
game and I was sure I was goingto be the gay love part of
Benedict Bridgerton in seasonfour.
Somehow I didn't manifest goodenough because it didn't turn
out into a gay love story butwith a Sophie Beckett or
something.
It's the character.
Now something was leaked sothat did not work.
But, dear universe, there willbe more seasons to come and I
(58:11):
really would love to be inBridgerton, and if not in
Bridgerton then something reallycool historical.
Really would love to be inbridgerton, and if not in
bridgerton then something reallycool historical.
I'd definitely love to do somequeer men portering.
Of course I'd love to do somequeer family, from rom-com to
drama, definitely.
Yeah, I think that's anotherpart where I change.
(58:33):
Maybe I'll change again, butright now I definitely love to
do rom-com and feel good movies,because there's so much going
on in the world.
I think we're coming or I feellike artists or me myself, want
to come back more to the, notonly showing people different
perspectives of life, but justgiving them a break, like I had
(58:55):
it the other day.
I started what was it?
Fallout on Amazon, and afterepisode two I was like this is
too much blood, too much cruelty, too much corruption and I
stopped.
And then season three ofBridget came out and I was like,
oh God, I love it.
I watched it two times justbecause there's so much going on
(59:16):
in the world.
I just don't want to be throwninto another world of corruption
.
At the end of the day, when Ifinally brought my kids to bed
and hopefully without too muchscreaming around because there
were sibling fights or I was anerve wreck that day and so but
(59:36):
yeah, but that just camerecently that I thought, okay,
that's the content I like towatch.
I want to do that too.
So, yeah, I really would loveto do really good quality, feel
good content.
But yeah, actually really onthe Netflix, amazon Prime,
hollywood level, that would be.
That's my goal.
That's where I want to go.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
I was sending you all that energy you know it may
come from instagram you knowlike and all your beautiful
content that you're creating,thank you.
So do you have any sort ofmantra, guidance, top tip that
you would like to share to anyactor that is listening to us
right now and that is thinkingabout his or her content?
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
you mean specifically concerning instagram or content
on social media?
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
it could be content for other platforms as well.
You know we talked aboutinstagram a lot, but it can be
for other platforms as well, Ithink which is the hardest part,
but still the most importantpart, is just to start.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I think there is no wrong.
Yes, I mean, it depends onwhich generation you come from.
I was born in 88.
So I still have this mantra inmy head the internet never
forgets.
Wake up, today.
There's so much content.
The internet forgets every dayeverything.
(01:00:59):
You can just post something anddelete it five minutes later
and no one will care.
You can post something anddelete it a year later.
I'm doing this course.
It's called tech savvy actors.
It's marketing for actors oninstagram and heidi dean, she's
the coach and and she alwayssays go through your Instagram
or whatever social media once ina while and see, does it still
(01:01:21):
represent your best acting?
And that would be my adviceJust do it, do play around with
it, have fun, don't be scared ofbigger accounts, of better
accounts, of better quality.
Just do it.
And then go through it onceevery two months and see still,
if I watch it myself, do I stilllike watching my own content?
(01:01:41):
And if not, then just delete it.
And then just try until youreally do like your own content
and if you don't like it, thenchange, or if you decide that
you tried the social media gameand you just are not made for it
, then don't.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Stop Love it.
That is so important.
Yeah, that thought of oh, theinternet never forgets.
It's absolutely.
It's an old-fashioned way oflooking at it.
People are overwhelmed withinformation.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Maybe the internet does not forget, but I think the
internet is so overwhelmed thatthey tend to yeah, at least
skip things.
It's just.
That's another good part aboutbeing a small content creator.
Whether you have 50,000, whichis still small in comparison, or
500, really it could be hard.
(01:02:28):
But on the other hand, isn't ita relief?
You can just post it and if 10people saw it and didn't like it
, so what?
You may have a bad day on stageand people will go.
That was brave for him to go onstage, but I could have done
that too.
Of course, they couldn't have.
The most people who willcriticize you are the ones who
(01:02:49):
are not creating contentthemselves.
These are the ones who aregoing to be well.
Isn't that embarrassing to putyourself out there with 36?
Isn't that Instagram, somethingfor 12-year-olds?
But they don't have a publicprofile, they don't post things,
they don't try out.
I think trying something out onInstagram or any other platform
is brave because it could goviral and could lead to a lot of
(01:03:13):
criticism and feedback bothways, good and bad.
So putting yourself out thereis so brave, viral and could
lead to a lot of criticism andfeedback both ways, good and bad
.
So putting yourself out thereis so brave, and I think that's
one of the most important thingsI learned for myself as an
actor that I have to be brave,that I have to try and fail.
So, yeah, just go out there andfail terribly and do great the
(01:03:35):
next time.
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Thank you so much, kevin.
This was like really an awesomeconversation.
It inspired me, as well as anactress, so much.
So where can people find youand also Schauspiel Studio,
because I know you have your ownacting studio in Frankfurt as
well?
Where can they find more aboutyou and the studio you?
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
can find me on kevinsilvagita, my first and
last name on Instagram.
That's basically actually all Ido.
I have, I claimed my accountson all the other platforms, but
I only post on Instagram becauseI would get lost.
Different platforms, differentcontent I just do Instagram,
period, and if I have a showreel, I post it on my YouTube.
(01:04:16):
That's it.
And you can also find Sch.
And if I have a showreel, Ipost it on my YouTube, that's it
.
And you can also findSchauspielstudio Frankfurt,
which is my.
Yeah, it's a working space.
I founded it a year ago with adirector and we meet every week
and everyone is invited.
You can just, if you're fromGermany or if you ever visit
Frankfurt on a Tuesday, just hitus up on Instagram and ask and
you can just drop in and we canjust have a good time.
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