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August 8, 2024 42 mins

We all have those moments that change our lives forever. For us, it was the summer of 2000, at a high school party hosted by Brian, then affectionately known as BJ. Join us as we reminisce about the nerves, awkward moments, and the undeniable spark that ignited our love story. Laugh with us as we share some early memories set the stage for a love that has flourished over nearly a quarter of a century.

Fast forward through the years, and you'll find us navigating the ups and downs of young adulthood, from university students to budding entrepreneurs. Whether it's Brittany's career shift from pre-pharmacy to hair school and her life-changing experience joining Arbonne, or Brian's launch of his DJ business and the excitement of buying our first home, this chapter is filled with pivotal moments that shaped our lives and careers. Relive our engagement and the events of 2008, highlighting the unwavering support we've given each other along the way.

Our journey to parenthood was an emotional one, filled with fears, therapy sessions, and intuitive guidance. Discover how a letter to Brian's dad and a session with an intuitive led us to embrace parenthood and conceive our son Marty. We'll share the funny story behind his name, and how his arrival, 16 days overdue, transformed our lives in ways we could never have imagined.

Reflecting on 24 years together and 14 years of marriage, we'll explore the connection that defines our relationship, the joy of feeling truly at home, and our belief in a love that transcends lifetimes.

Julie Veresh - Innate dynamics intuitive energy coach

Peg Cleland - Human design, energetics and mindset coach

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
you're listening to the love movement with your
hosts britney and brian johnston.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're starting a movement centered around love to
help raise the vibration ofthis beautiful planet.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
If that's your vibe, hang out with us as we chat
about many topics all centeredaround three main pillars Loving
yourself, loving each other andloving the planet.
So if you're ready, let's jumpin.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Okay, babe, I think we should start this whole thing
off and we need to explain topeople how we met.
Since this whole thing is allabout love, love, we need to
tell our love story.
Okay, and you've got it alllaid out here, so I'm gonna let
you do most of it.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Where do we begin?
Because this is almost 24 yearsinto our journey, but I will
say, for anybody that doesn'tknow anything about us um, we do
everything but the decade.
So we started dating in theyear 2000.
We got married in 2010 and wegot pregnant in 2020 and here it
is 2024.
So let's just like set thescene here.

(01:14):
We'll go back circa 2000.
Isn't that so weird?
2000 doesn't seem that long ago, but like it was 24 years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
So weird.
Anyways, it was the mid to theend of summer.
I was between grade 9 and 10,and you were between grade 11
and 12.
Yeah, 11 and 12.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I was the old guy.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You were the old guy and I was just getting over.
You guys won't even believethis when I say it chicken pox,
worst time of my life.
Well, at that point it was theworst time of my life.
Anyways, brian BJ, as we calledhim in high school I didn't
even know his name was Brianthat's a story for later in the

(01:55):
podcast but he was having aparty at his house and I just
remember.
When I think of BJ, I have torefer to you as that because
that's what we called you inhigh school.
But I was like mildly obsessed,maybe more than mildly obsessed
.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
If there's posters of me, she would have had them all
over her wall.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I was just going to say that.
I had Backstreet Boys, nsync,jtt, devon Sawa posters on my
walls and then there was BJ inhigh school in the flesh, and I
remember I was always like kindof obsessed with this, with this
guy from afar, like afar,because I was like this shy,
quiet, little grade nine girland you were like this super

(02:36):
cool, popular, like life of theparty it seemed that was my
perspective like grade 11, andall I remember is your smile and
how it just reminded me of jimcarrey in the mask, stanley,
ipkiss stanley, ipkiss yeahanyways.
Um so this party.
I was like I could not believewe were going to your house for

(02:57):
a party.
I was like so excited, sonervous.
It was also like the year thatit was cool if you wore skate
skater shoes not that I rode askateboard, oh my god, could you
imagine or board shoes,whatever you call them I think
mine were blue sketchers anyways.
It was cool if you wore themwith no socks apparently, short
socks weren't invented by yet,or something.
But the thing is I grew updancing, you guys, and like, if

(03:20):
you know a dancer, they don'thave the best smelling feet
brian smelled my dance.
I found out later very smellyfeet not anymore it was
literally when I was dancingyeah, it was from dancing
anyways and I was like, okay,I'm gonna go to this party, but
like I'm wearing these coolshoes and I'm not don't have
socks on, so like obviously I'mnot taking these, I'm not taking
these shoes off.
And first thing he says we walkin the door is like you guys

(03:42):
want to take your shoes off it'slike, yeah, we don't wear shoes
in my house oh my god.
But who does like?
Why did I think I was gonnawalk into your house with shoes
on?
I would kill somebody if theydid that here, and so would you.
Anyways, I just remember I hadbody shop lemongrass spray.
I like went outside on theporch and sprayed my feet and
then I sat on my feet on yourcouch because I was so nervous

(04:03):
that you were just going tothink.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I remember that you were cross-legged on the couch
downstairs.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
You remember?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
that.
Oh yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Were you like.
Why is she sitting like that?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I just thought you were just chilling.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, well, I was really dying on the inside.
What was your memory of?
Like that party?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, it was my buddy's birthday and there was a
lot of whiskey going on and,yeah, I was just like, yeah,
bring bring on the girls, moregirls at the party.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Such a player, but he wasn't.
No, you hung out with players,but you were not a player no, I
definitely was not.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
It was a fun party, but we went our separate ways.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
But that was probably probably like first little yeah
, that's the first like memory Ihave really of like hanging out
.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, first little spark we had together.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
And then you were talking earlier about this, but
there was like a second party atI don't know whose house.
You were at Some basement.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah, some basement on the South side of
Swift Current, saskatchewan, andI came there with a couple
buddies of mine, brought somebeer, went down to this basement
and, yeah, pretty sketchybasement and there's a bunch of
girls sitting around this randombed that was pushed up against
the one wall.
It was kind of dark and Iremember seeing her sitting at

(05:18):
the edge of this bed and she hadwhite shoes on.
I don't know why.
I remember that yeah, I had goodshoes yeah, you had white shoes
on and I just remember talkingto you a little bit and then I
don't remember what was going on.
But we all went outside.
We were going across the streetto the park there's an
elementary school across thestreet and all of a sudden the
cops show up and I'm holdinglike a two, four of beer it was

(05:41):
pilsner and I ditched them in abush and I ran as fast as I
could over to the playground andthere was this monkey bar
structure that was like a giantdome we call it the boob, and
yeah, so it's in the middle ofthis playground here and there's
some people from the partysitting up on this thing.

(06:02):
And I ran up there and Brittanywas sitting there and I sat
beside her and I was just likehey.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
And then uh, I just remember you said hi to me and I
literally turned my head,looked behind me Cause I was
sure that he was not talking tome.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Anyway, the cops didn't get us.
I was all innocent over there,wasn't doing nothing.
Uh, our beer would end up stillbeing there later, after the
cops left.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I don't remember any of this because I had the
earliest curfews and my dad cameto pick me up early, which was
like such a vibe kill.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, but I do remember sitting beside you and
just being like, oh this girl'scool.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Which was crazy because for me I felt like I was
always the girl who was likeunseen, Like no one saw me but
they would see, like my friendswho were cooler than me.
It's kind of like I stood kindof behind my friends who were
the cool ones.
That's actually kind of how Ifelt too, so I guess that's why
we connected and then do youremember the strike we had at
school?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
yeah, there was.
So this is the start of thestart of school year.
There was like a teacher strikeor something like all the
students went from the highschool over to this like
administrative office thing,which was probably far, five,
six blocks away.
I'd say longer than that, evenmaybe longer, yeah, probably
longer than that actually.
So all this, all the kids werewalking on the sidewalk.

(07:14):
I had just replaced thetransmission in my car like the
night before, got it all backtogether and I'm driving, I'm
right near the back of thisconvoy of students and my car
dies.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
His red Honda Civic hatchback Red 82 Honda Accord
hatchback.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
It was an Accord, babe Accord, and my car dies
right there.
I'm like, oh crap, so I'm withmy buddy.
So, okay, we're going to getout and walk with her, with all
these students, over to thisadministrative building, and I
get out.
I started walking.
I'm kind of up on a hill and Ijust started looking for her in
this giant crowd and I seen herlike way close to the front.

(07:49):
She was really tiny, she wasreally far away and I just was
looking for her which I remember.
When he first told me that story, I was like yeah, right, you
were not looking for me yeah, Ijust pointed, I pointed her out
and I was like there's that girland I remember you were like
you've always been into music.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
So like then we all got to that building.
Everybody was hanging out doingwhatever we were doing
shenanigans.
You had your like hatchbackopen on the car and you were
playing like super loud musicand it just seemed like he was
just like the life of the party,like if you're watching a movie
of, like these high school kids.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
it was like he was the guy.
Yeah, I had a massive stereo.
I was in a stereo competition,so I ended up getting the car
over there and I was, you know,providing music for the whole
giant strike that was going onon this, like main road and
swift current.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I just, I just remember being like so I don't
know more obsessed all the timethat I was around you.
But you drove us home that day.
I sat in the back seat, not inthe front yeah, we went to
7-eleven got some slurpees yeahand then dropped.
I don't remember.
I could just remember being inthere thinking like, oh my god,
now I'm in his car like this iscrazy.
Little did I know, it juststalled earlier it was kind of

(08:54):
half-assed working but so thenschool would have started so
september of that year 2000, andI start grade 10, you start
grade 12 and I was at a friend'shouse one night and I remember
you picked me up in like a nicervehicle I guess it was your
uncle's suv, for some reasonyeah, we had my uncle's suv.
We were driving around and soyou took me to your house well,
you guys were in there.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I was on the lawn laying on the lawn waiting for
you to come out.
So you came out, we went foryeah, went from that place over
to my house I just remember yourmom sitting.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
It was dark.
Your mom was sitting on thefront porch like the light was
behind her from like in thehouse and she had the cord of
the telephone that was attachedto the wall a 25 foot curly
telephone cord.
Talking on the phone stretchedall the way out having a smoke
oh, I was so embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I absolutely detest smoking.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
My mom was smoking well, and so do I, but like my
dad smoked, so I yeah, I didn'tthink anything of it right, but
I did.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I was like, oh mom, why you gotta be smoking?
Which is so funny because likenow in 24 years.
I don't remember her eversmoking, except like that day,
yeah like she must have quitright early I was quitting all
along not long after that yeah,which is so funny that that was
my first memory.
I helped her with the quittingtoo.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Hypnosis, wasn't it?
It was hypnosis, yep, yeah,anyways, I just remember that.
And then somehow we just werein your room and here I'm
thinking like yeah, we'resitting in my room.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I'm laying sideways on my bed, leaned up against the
wall, and she was sitting kindof by like my pillow.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And me kind of like.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I don't remember looking at your face and you
asked me no, I was like facingout to the room and you were
facing like the side of me right, kind of and you asked if I
would be your girlfriend yeahand I think, before you finish
the sentence, I was like I'm yes, probably.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I was like is this?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
happening.
I was so nervous I was soexcited well, the weird thing
the night before.
Actually we were at like aparty out at this pit and I
drove you home and I wanted toask her out that night, but I
was too scared to ask her out.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And you should have, because the day you asked me out
happened to be my dad's weddinganniversary.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, I couldn't have known that.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
They're not married anymore.
But that's just funny that thatwas the day of 365 days in the
year.
Anyways, I just rememberlooking at you and your face was
so red yeah it would have beenvery red your cheeks were like
fire engine.
It was just so cute.
Anyways, it's just so weirdthinking back to like passing

(11:22):
notes in high school and inbetween classes and writing in
each other's yearbook, and likejust all the little things that
we don't have in this world.
Like today we would send a text.
Yeah, like back then we had likenotes are awesome so many notes
and folded them up really coolways and like all of this stuff.
And I remember the one timewhen I called your house and I
was like, hey, is bj there?
And you answered and then yousaid something to me at one

(11:45):
point and we were like, justcall me Brian.
And I was like, why would Icall you Brian?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
because that's my name and it was just the
weirdest thing.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's like you thinking my name is Brittany and
I'm just like, oh, call meJennifer, like it was so weird
to get used to calling you Brian, anyways, um, okay, let's fast
forward a little bit because wegot a lot of years together.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
We had our first kiss that night.
Oh yeah, we had our first kisswhen I drove you home from from
my house right, right.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
So you pick me up, ask me out, drove me home first
kiss yeah, I don't even think Islept.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
That night is sealed forever fate is sealed.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, it's crazy and I remember too, like, um, I was
in cosmetology and I would oneday, I remember just like,
floating into class andeverybody was like what is this
like shit eating grin on yourface about?
And I was like pj just said hito me, like I just was.
It was all so surreal, like Icouldn't believe it was
happening to me, becausenormally, like like I said, the

(12:38):
guys would like my friends not,but I just felt always seen with
you.
Um, so 2001, you graduated, andthen 2003, I graduated and I
think it was the summer before.
When did you move to Saskatoon?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
A few months before you did.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, and so I did two years of well, my goal was
to be a pharmacist, so somepre-pharmacy arts and science
classes at the university ofSaskatchatchewan, um.
I lived in res for two yearsand you lived in a little
basement suite not far away um,and then, 2005 I guess it would
have been my third year ofuniversity we moved in together

(13:17):
yeah, moved into.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I guess it was a three-bedroom house main floor.
House upper floor yep littlered door, cute little white
house big yard yeah, and we gotour first puppy yeah, that was
our first good first little girlfirst little girl, little
bailey.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I was almost 20, I was a teen mom.
I was 19, I was a teen mom.
Um, yeah, so we lived there.
I think I did a year ofuniversity, still there and then
you did yeah, and then andthat's when bailey was a puppy
because I remember going toschool and being like, oh my god
, I gotta leave this like cryingpuppy at home.
I was taking the bus back andforth to school like the city
bus yeah, and I went fromworking in an electronic store

(13:54):
to working, you know, like awholesale distribution store
order desk yeah, you were thesales guy yeah, I was a sales
guy yeah, and then I um ended upgoing to hair school for a year
at Marca College downtownSaskatoon, and it was in that
year I was introduced to umnetwork marketing in the company
that I later then joined.

(14:15):
But it took me a while to comearound to that idea, so my aunt
had to sort of introduce me toit.
But my plan in hair school wasjust to like have a skill that I
could acquire in 10 months sothat when I got into pharmacy,
which was four years ofuniversity, I could do hair on
the side.
But life often doesn't go asyou plan, and I got four
rejection letters from thecollege of pharmacy.

(14:37):
So I remember finishing hairschool that summer it was summer
of 2007.
I finished hair school, didreally well, but I didn't want
to pursue it as a full-timething at all.
And then I got my fourthrejection letter from pharmacy
and I was like, oh my gosh, whatis happening with my life?
Like I felt like I just dugmyself this huge pit, like I'm
not even 22 and I have fiftythousand dollars of student loan

(14:57):
debt and no career path that Iwanted to pursue.
I mean, it was just the worst.
I don't know what your memoryof that time was.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, that sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Just brutal, anyway.
So I decided I was going tojoin this network marketing
company, despite like a millionfears, hesitations, so much
doubt, so much uncertainty.
I was very shy, quiet, like notconfident.
No, and my aunt was my sponsorin this company.
My dad somehow believed that Icould do this and kind of help

(15:28):
me get started and you had somekind of belief in me.
I literally felt like I had toborrow it from all three of you
because I had none myself.
Anyways, I always say that,outside of saying yes to dating
you, saying yes to the networkmarketing company, which I'm
just going to say the name,because this is episode one and
I'm going to bring it up all thetime, but it's Arbonne and

(15:49):
actually next month, in realtime, it'll be 18 years I've
been with Arbonne.
But saying yes all those yearsago, with all of that fear and
all that uncertainty, it waslike the second best decision of
my life because it changedpretty much everything for us.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Everything.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, so what were you doing?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
2007.
You were 2007.
I was still working at theautomotive distribution place
and you were djing and, oh yeah,I just at 2007 I started my dj
company.
I'd always always been intodjing, but I actually started
doing it as like a business onthe side.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Why did you start that?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
why did I start that?
I think you're you doing?
Our bond, I think, gave me thecourage to to do it like she's
stepping out and doing thisthing.
I was always into djing andmusic.
I had turntables like speakersand I was like, well, let's make
some money on this thing.
She can, you know, conquer someof her fears.
Get out in public.

(16:42):
I'm gonna do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, that's kind of cool.
I didn't know that that was likepart of why I did that too,
until he told me, obviouslyyears ago.
But, um, 2008 was a big yearfor us.
I promoted within our companythere's only four levels of
management and I promoted to thethird level, which is where you
can earn.
It was just a.
It was a company car.
At that point, it was a whitemercedes-benz.
Today it's a choice you can getcash or a car, but visit

(17:06):
earningsarbonnecom to see what'stypical disclaimer.
Anyways, I had promoted to thatlevel of management.
We bought our first home on thewest side of saskatoon, yep and
we got engaged at my firstglobal training conference,
which that year was the onlyyear.
It was never in Vegas, thatyear was in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, in April and then he came home and eight days
later, or something like that,or three days later, I think it
was we moved into the new house.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's how it went.
Yeah, we got engaged, movedinto the new house and then that
fall I promoted to regionalvice president, earned my car.
Yeah, so, that's actually thetime I had the timeline wrong
with that.
Regional vice president earnedmy car, yeah.
So that's actually the time Ihad the timeline wrong of that.
Yeah, and brian um did thewhole nine yards like limo.
We did a hip-hop ballet.
You took me to what was thatband called outcast outcast.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, big boy, I think it was from yeah outcast.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
It was the producer of it and then a limo picked us
up from that.
Yeah, that's what it was, andwe went to the rose garden.
Yeah, and you proposed in arose garden went to the Rose
Garden.
Yeah, and you proposed in aRose Garden.
We went to the BotanicalGardens, yeah.
Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Botanical Gardens yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
And you proposed in a Rose Garden.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, I was very nervous.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I wish like there was phones back then.
I have no memory I actuallylost my phone that night.
You had a Motorola Razr.
I did the flip phone, the cab,as we were going to the Tim
McGraw which was the closingparty at our conference that
year.
Yeah, and then I was like Icouldn't tell anybody, I was
engaged like nothing because Ihad no phone and Facebook was.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I mean, it had only been.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Facebook was like a year old for us at that point.
Yeah, hardly anyone even had itreally yet.
Oh my gosh, it's so weird tothink of that world 2009,.
I quote, retired you?
Yeah, retire is I got to leavethe nine to five job to do what
I really wanted to do, yeah,which at that point, you knew
that you wanted to be in thesolar world somewhat.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, like I've always been a big advocate for
environmental everything, I justa big nature fan and, yeah, I
got to do solar.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Solar was on my on my radar and I think it was 2013,
2012, 2013 when I really startedforming the plan around solar,
but it was way too early, sosort of like in between that
space like 2009 to 2012, 13 orso that three, four year period
when you didn't have to have ajob because my business was, you
know, making more than enoughthat we needed.

(19:25):
You were still DJing and doingyeah.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I was DJing.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
You were also like installing, like.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I was doing remote car starters, remote car
starters Brian's like supertechie.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
If you know him, you know this.
You're so smart.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, a lot of random work on the side.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
He's like a MacGyver Jack Wilson definitely a
MacGyver.
2010 was awesome.
It was our literally dreamwedding.
We I always wanted to getmarried on a beach and we just
did it.
It was Jamaica.
December 10th, 2010.
It was so good.
We had about 30 of our friendsand family there, um, and then I
don't know, between that and Iwould say, 2014 was like the
next big milestone.
The end of 2014, um, I promotedto the top income level in our

(20:11):
company and a year followingthat promotion so the end of
2015, we moved into our likedream home in Saskatoon, on the
other side of town yeah dreamknowing what we know now, it
wouldn't be our dream homeanymore.
But then it was our dream home.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
But then at that time it was yeah, it was a huge
upgrade.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Huge, Huge.
I'm pretty sure the movers werelike do you guys sell drugs?
Like why?
Why?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
yeah, from like a 700 square foot house to this like
yeah, massive house 3 500.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I guess it would have been with the basement.
Yeah, and it was just awesome.
We were there for, I think,almost seven years, like eight
years, eight years yeah, almost,oh yeah, almost eight years but
our businesses really startedflourishing um when we moved
there.
Like I feel like everythingjust started really clicking and
going really well, like yoursolar started taking off, it's
just like the environment wasbetter when you have that space

(21:02):
to thrive in more.
And even though we'd both beenon a personal development kind
of journey since I startedArbonne really that started, so
we'd been on this journey formaybe a decade personal growth,
but sort of like this spiritualjourney started coming in for me
, and I don't mean like in termsof religion per se, but just
something bigger than myself,like whether you believe in the

(21:23):
universe or god or whatever thatis.
I started by seeing anastrologist.
I don't even know who referredme to him in 2017 and all I
remember was I was in this spaceof like am I supposed to have a
kid?
Like, are we going to have akid?
We're going to have a family.
Because I think we got socaught up in this life that we
were living with you know, ourbond, that it was like we were
earning incentive trips andmaking great income and like

(21:45):
having all this time andflexibility and freedom and not
a lot of other friends in ourtheir 20s.
We're living like that we justhad dogs we just had dogs and we
were like I'm pretty surepeople have kids because they
don't love their life and welove our life, so why do we want
to add a kid to the mix?
We literally had theseconversations and so I and
people were bugging us likecrazy because we've been married
for seven years.
When you're having kids, whenyou have, and together for 17

(22:07):
yeah, it's getting annoying.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Eventually we shut it down.
People stopped asking us yeah,we did.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
We were like we're not having kids.
But in 2017, when I saw thisastrologist, he said you have
one boy in your chart.
He's like it's not soon, butyou have one boy.
And I was like, huh interesting, 2018,.
I saw a tarot card reader,which I'm not really sure I'm
into that that much, but, um, alot of what she said came true,
and one of the things where shesaid you have a very special

(22:34):
bond with one boy and I was like, well, my neighbor was having a
baby at that time and I thoughtmaybe it's him, maybe it's my
cousin who's having a baby LikeI was trying to justify that it
wouldn't be my kid.
And then in 2019, I'll neverforget September 1st 2019, I saw
a girl I was recommended to seeby a friend.
Her name's Julie Verish.
She's amazing.
She's a body talk intuitive.

(22:55):
Amazing.
She's a body talk intuitive.
She's just multifaceted.
She's so incredible.
And I'll never forget it waswhat.
30 minutes into that session,and she said you don't have any
kids, do you?
And I said no.
And she's like and you don'tknow if you want any.
And now I'm like are you in mybrain?
And I was like no.
And then she says with so muchcertainty and confidence huh,
she looks into thin air, kind ofabove me, I'm laying on a bed,

(23:18):
and she's like you have a babyboy in your mom.
She's like you're gonna be amom and you're gonna love it.
And I was like I immediatelystart bawling, bawling, bawling,
because this is the thirdperson in three years.
Different modality, nobody knewanything, and all saying the
same thing.
And she goes oh my gosh, he'sbeautiful.
She's like he is an earth angel.
He's your guiding light, he'sthis, he's that she.

(23:40):
It's like she could see him.
It was so weird.
So, anyways, I come home,you're mowing the grass.
I was like stop mowing thegrass, like sit here listen to
this and I was freaking out.
And then I think, as youstarted seeing me do these
sessions with her, suddenly, allone time you just went yourself
yeah, I booked it myself whenzener and I'm like, and this was
you, weren't really into thepath of this kind of stuff,

(24:02):
really no, I was.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'm very analytical and like, everything's like
facts and it's got to have areason why it's happening like.
And so I I booked a session andI was like, okay, well, I'm
going to be open to this becauseI want to be on the same kind
of pages as she's on.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Because I always said , like when I started personal
growth, I was like we're goingto grow together, we're going to
grow apart.
You decide Like I'm going to begoing a bit early in reading,
you probably should do the same.
Yep, and you did.
And so it was kind of the samewith this journey, even though

(24:40):
you were a it.
But I think obviously she wasgood and telling you the right
things because you kept goingand for I had a team call on
Brian's 30.
What seventh birthday?
So Brian's birthday is May 3rd.
And this particular day was aSunday when we had our call and
I was like oh my gosh, like whatcan I do for him to like have a
good birthday when I'm upstairson my team call?
And you had a session withJulie because this was on zoom
yeah, it was a zoom was it COVIDtimes then?

(25:01):
or why yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
must have been just after just after.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, right, it was May 3rd 2020 and so I was so
jealous by that session, becausethat session you did a lot of
it was really powerful.
What do you want to say aboutthat session?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
um, it was a lot of stuff to do with my dad, a very
complicated relationship withhim, but uh, I actually just
started writing a letter to himearlier that week and then she
started telling me all the stufflike you need to, like you know
, get, get something out onpaper to your dad.

(25:36):
And I'm like weird, I'vealready started this process,
but she kind of pushed me to tofinish it and I got all these
thoughts out about my dad.
It was a basically needed to.
I don't know how you'd say it.
I had a lot of childhood woundsand stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I needed to kind of get over before I could even
think about having a kid andit's's weird, because this will
be maybe an episode for anotherday but I my mom didn't raise me
, so my I was raised by mygrandma and like I was kind of
like the family project.
My dad was in my life, so we'rekind of opposite, like where
you, well, you had your mom andyour dad, but you're close with
your mom, whereas I didn't havemy mom in my life, but I had my

(26:13):
dad, and so I had these issueswith.
I think, as I was thinkingabout becoming a mom, the fear
set in.
I'm like, well, I don't knowhow to be a mom.
I didn't have a mom, and eventhough I had mother figures, I
would just go there in my headLike I didn't have a mom.
So I was scared.
I was also scared of dying inlabor.
I had so much fear around havinga baby, and so Julie helped me
with a lot of that, because shejust kept saying, like you have

(26:35):
to get over this fear, becauseall the joy in your life is on
the other side of this fear.
And so I was so jealous of yoursession on your birthday that I
booked a session like five dayslater, on that Friday it was
May 8th I did this session withher and she starts laughing in
the beginning and I was likewhat?
And she goes baby, it's all Isee.
And like big, it's like bigshiny lights ahead, like above

(26:55):
me, that just baby.
And I was in my head I was likef this, like I'm going to see
somebody else, like Julie justwants me to have a baby.
And we got into a conversationthat night, maybe a bit of a
tiff about it, because it waslike we had to decide.
I mean, I was going to be 35and we had to make a decision
like are we, are we not?
And you guys, the next morningwas a snowy may 9th snowing,

(27:19):
snowing.
That's how I'll never forget it.
And that was the morning weconceived.
Yeah, it was magical so peopleoften think like we probably had
issues getting pregnant.
I think it's just an assumptionpeople make and I feel for
people who struggle in this areabig time and we know lots of
those people so I almost feelbad saying like how easy
happened for us.

(27:40):
But that's just the reality forus is it was like once we tried
once and he was there and itwas like oh my gosh.
So I always joked, I was like Iknow I got pregnant with my
husband, but I think I gotpregnant because of julie.
She helped us with blocks andthings and she also said that
you are going to have a son andhe's going to heal both of you

(28:01):
and it was just like full bodychills.
So 20 weeks into that pregnancywe confirmed that we were
having a boy.
We didn't really question itbecause, like, whatever Julie
says always happens.
She checked again.
She's like no it's a boy.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, she's so confident Like she just knows.
And it's a boy.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, she's so confident.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like she just knows, and it was a boy.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
And then do you want to talk about his name?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Oh, so he's.
So my favorite movie all timeis Back to the Future, and not
long after we started dating wewere joking that you know if I
ever, if we ever have a kid, wegot to name him Marty.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
And I was.
You know, if I ever, we ever,have a kid, we gotta name him
marty.
And I was like as if I just Iwill never name my kid marty.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
That is such a terrible name.
I just always love this name,marty.
So for 20 years it was thisjoke like oh yeah, we ever have
a kid name, name him martyobviously it got so planted in
my head that I was.
I even named him before I toldbrian yeah, so I played the long
game of planting this name inher head, in his subconscious,
for 20 years for her to be ableto tell me that he's be my

(29:03):
decision.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, it's her decision, but it's almost like
he named himself, like Icouldn't it it.
Could you imagine him beinganything else?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
no, couldn't imagine being a carl or a steve, he's
just nobody but a marty.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
so, anyway, our little marty man was born 16
days overdue.
He was supposed to come out onJune, or no, january 30th, and
he was born February 15th 2021.
And our lives have truly neverbeen the same since.
Like it's hard to think aboutlife without him.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, how lame it would be.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
And how much we really almost didn't do it like
I.
Really we were like what wouldyou say?
I'd say I was like 90 10 to noyeah, it was always no, it was
always no.
But there's always like that 10deep down, it's like yeah
that's why I feel like, unlessyou're 100, no, it's not
actually no at least.

(29:56):
That that's, I guess, what Iknow now looking back.
But so rewind a little bit topre-pandemic, I guess, because
in 2018, Arbonne brought all thenational vice presidents to
Bear Mountain in Victoria BC,and that was the first time I'd
ever been to the island I'd onlyever been to the Okanagan prior
to that and so I just, I thinkI was shocked by how much the
island was just so different andbeautiful.
It felt like a slice of Hawaiiwas just cut off and added to

(30:19):
Canada, Like it was justremember me calling you just
freaking out yeah.
Because you weren't here and Iwas like I remember thinking the
seed was planted about theisland because I thought if
Brian ever came here he wouldnever leave.
Like this weather is amazingall year round.
Like I couldn't believe it wasCanada but it was just bad
timing.
It was like we didn't know whatwas around the corner in terms
of a pandemic.
Having a baby.

(30:40):
You were totally tied and fullyimmersed in your business with
solar, which was booming at thattime yeah, there's no way I
could go anywhere you had trucksand trailers and crews and,
yeah, houses, and it was at areally weird season of life,
because I remember just thinking, like is this life?
Like I'm just here doing mybusiness and you're just
spending all of our only goodtimes of the year, which is the

(31:00):
summer, in Saskatchewan on otherpeople's roofs, putting solar
in, like it just felt my lifefelt empty, it felt unfulfilled,
it felt like there there had tobe more, but what was the more?
And anyways, then I think lifekind of hit everybody in a weird
way and so we spent ourpandemic days being pregnant and
having a baby and going throughall of the postpartum things
and all that.

(31:20):
But then post pandemic, postbaby, um, post solar business
that's again another story foranother day.
Brian's business kind of cameto an end right before the
pandemic.
I guess end of 2019, um, notreally because of your, your
reasoning, but government stuff,government stuff, yeah, anyway.
So 2022 we came, arvon broughtus back out to for a retreat,

(31:42):
back to the island, and it wasto oak baby chotel at this time,
and this was where I was likehuh, we could be here now like
you're, you're not, you don'thave the solar business.
We are totally flexible.
And now we have this humanbeing that, like he will be five
in 2026.
So like, where do we want to bewhen he starts kindergarten,

(32:03):
and just all these thoughts.
It was like we had a timer on.
Finally, by having a kid, isthat how you felt, kind of yeah.
And so I just remember myfriend said to me well, just
bring Brian out, just bringBrian and the dogs and Marty and
just like live out here and seewhat you think and like just
see if he likes it, becauseyou'd never been to the island
no so we booked this trip.
Three months later we drive out.

(32:24):
I just gotten a new mercedessuv, my first suv.
We took the two dogs and marty,who's 18 months old.
Three days took us to drive tothe island right it was a good
trip it was a good trip.
Anyways, we get to the island.
We stay out here at my friend'scottage.
It's oceanfront in souk.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's just beautiful and brian's like online looking
at rental yeah, I startedlooking at rentals, just yeah,
you know what's it like, what'sit gonna be like yeah, and you
went biking too, and you lovethe biking oh yeah, I was like,
I'm not coming out here, they'llbring my bike.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'm a big mountain biker and if you've lived here,
you could do it year round.
Yep, lived on the island, right?
So, anyways, um, things justhappen on different timelines,
because I think our goal was,like, my goal is to get you out
here to see it, to see if youliked it, so you could, like,
make a five-year plan and be outhere by the time marty starts
kindergarten or something likethat.
And you guys, day three of ourfour-day trip, we found a place

(33:17):
that we just everything fellinto place and we were like,
let's do this, and we called ourparents well, we woke up the
next day after we found it.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
The guy wanted to give us this place and I'm we're
thinking about actually pullingthe trigger.
And I woke up that next day andI was like oh yeah, I was like
fuck it, I'm 40 this coming year.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Let's do it.
You're like I wanted to live inbc my whole life.
What are we waiting for?
That's right.
You said that the next morningand you guys, brian's not the
decisive one in the relationshipI am, and so the fact that he
was that decisive.
I was like, okay, we're doingthis.
And so we, we said yes, we sentthe deposit.
We literally called our parentson the ferry on the way back to

(34:02):
the mainland and told them,like your mom didn't even
believe us, no, she thought Iwas joking.
I mean 20 years in arelationship.
We finally have this kideverybody wants us to have, and
now we're taking him fromSaskatchewan to the island in BC
, and so we had to go home.
And you know, when something'smeant to be, everything will
fall into place.
And so we went home.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Um, we sold our house like all our stuff it was crazy
, it was nuts, it was absolutelybonkers we had.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
So much help, thank god, from friends and everything
.
It just like.
I look to that season of ourlife and I think how did we do
that in two months with an 18month old?
It was insanity because weended up, from the day that we
said yes to that place on theisland to the day that we like
drove to the island was twomonths in one day yeah it's.

(34:52):
October 12th was the day that wegot to the island of 2022 and
you've never been back tosaskatchewan.
Since I have not been back.
It's been almost 19 months thatwe've now been here.
We just moved to our secondplace here in souk about a month
ago, just before easter.
Um, but it's just wild because,like you know, sometimes you

(35:13):
think you have a plan, but theuniverse has a different
timeline yeah, and being outhere I feel like I've been here
before, like I just like it'sjust a.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
It was a magnet we had to get.
We had to.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
We would have been ended up here somehow people
always ask like why I thoughtyou wanted to move to canmore
and I was like, well, that'skind of what we said, what we
talked about, but like nothingwas motivating me about getting
there and all of a sudden, thisjust happened and transpired so
fast and felt so right.
And actually, julie, back to myfriend Julie, who predicts my
whole life November of 2021.
I did a session with her andshe said weird, I see you living

(35:47):
on the west coast of Canada.
And I remember out loudlaughing to her and I was like
Julie, no, I was like we'vetalked about this.
We're moving to Canmore, wetalked with the Okanagan, but
that's too far west.
So when all this came to be, Iwas like, oh my god, brian julie
said this like months ago, likenovember to august, so however
many months, that is that's howlong ago.
She said it to me and Iremember messaging her and

(36:09):
saying, oh my god, we just didthis, like was this the right
move?
And she's like this is the bestthing you could have ever done
and she'd forgotten that.
She said that to me in thatsession.
She doesn't remember, but wecouldn't be more west coast of
Canada.
We literally live.
Essentially, we can see theocean out of our, out of our
window.
Yep, so it's so crazy to thinkthat this has been our journey.

(36:30):
And do you remember back inhigh school we were sitting on
your bed in your room and wewere saying when are we going to
be in 20 years?
Where do you think we're goingto be in 20 years?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, we had a couple moments like that.
I remember sitting in theparking lot at the high school.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
When you were still in high school, I was picking
you up and we were sitting thereand we were talking about the
future.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I feel like we were eating Burger.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
King Weird, just 20 years.
Where are we going to be?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
But that's like now.
That's the other thing too,when we moved here people were
like do you feel homesick?
Like because none of ourfamily's here.
No, I feel like I'm home.
Yeah, and I said I've neverfelt more home in my life.
This, this place, feels morelike home than any home has ever
felt.
It's the weirdest, mostundescribable thing.

(37:13):
And now people get to comevisit us and have a mini holiday
.
Yeah, love it, it's perfect.
I just, in closing, I wanted tosay when did you know that I
loved you?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
It's I don't know.
It's like this weird thing whenyou meet someone and you just
have a feeling, your heart is soopen and you just completely
trust them.
You want, you know, you thinkabout them as soon as you wake
up, before you go to bed, andjust like they're always in your
head all the time, living rentfree in my head, babe.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Rent free.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I just I don't know.
I just had this insane love foryou.
We'd only been, we'd barelybeen dating and I just felt like
so connected to you already,which is weird because I was
only 17.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
But now knowing more what we know, and like it's a
bit woo if you're not down thispath at all, but like we've had
other lifetimes together andwe've been told that by multiple
, multiple people.
Yeah, and it's obvious becausethere was no explanation why the
two of us, the most unlikelycouple because people remember
we started dating people werelike they're not even gonna last
two weeks.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
And like we're celebrating 24 years together
and 14 years of marriage thisyear and like life just keeps
getting, it feels like better.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, we're always on the upswing.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
And some people are like, don't you get sick of
being together all the time?
Like you both like work fromhome and no, like I hate being
apart.
Like some people are good whentheir husband works away, I like
I I hate it.
I don't even need to talk toyou, but just like knowing your
presence is around, you know.
Or like when I do travel withour bond, you're home and out
more with marty.
It's like you're fine, we'refine, but whenever I get home,
you're like, oh, just feels goodnow, yeah, complete, feels

(38:57):
complete.
And it's funny about that wholecomplete thing because, like I
knew when I was 16 years oldthat I was gonna marry you.
I knew I was like it was likethe weirdest thing and I almost
felt bad about it because I feltlike some people are, you know,
50 and don't even know who thatperson is.
And I knew at 16 yeah, Iremember.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
She is actually the one who wrote me a big long note
saying she loved me first,before I told her.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
And it was like very early in our relationship, two
months in, two months in, I'mlike 15 years old, you guys yeah
, oh my God, that's so weird.
I think a 15 year old now andI'm like you're just a child,
but in my head I was not a child, like I felt like I had it all
figured out, I knew all theanswers so funny.
But we were told to by thissame astrologist because we had
a session together with him andhe said that our charts when he
looks at our astrology charts,he said you two, it would be

(39:49):
hard for you to have not foundeach other in this lifetime Like
your charts are like magnets toeach other.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
I remember him saying that he's never seen two charts
that are more like connected.
Yeah, I feel like I want totalk to him again yeah, that was
a really interesting session wehad with him and my friend peg,
who we'll have on a laterpodcast.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
She is all about human design and I'm obsessed
with human design.
Me and marty are manifestinggenerators.
Brian found out marty's designabout an hour after he was born.
We were so into it.
Brian's a reflector.
He's's my unicorn.
The one percenter.
But what Peg also said withthree of our charts that our
charts complete each other, likethe three of us.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
And for anybody that's wondering no, we're not
having more kids.
Brian took care of that threemonths postpartum.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Now everybody knows my balls don't work.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
But just for anybody listening, are you going to have
more kids, don?
But just for anybody listening,are you gonna have more kids?
Don't ask us if we're gonnahave more kids.
We are not.
We are having one boy.
We feel so complete, it feelsso right and I just I'm so
grateful that we did it.
But it all started at afreaking party at your house,
with my stinky feet now.
I massage those feet all thetime yeah, he really does, but

(40:58):
it's crazy that is.
That is where our love storybegan, back in swift, current
saskatchewan, bringing it allthe way to souk bc wow, souk
saskatoon.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I know swift current saskatoon souk.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, we're staying here I said to people if this
island goes down, I'm going downwith it yep, like I'm so
committed to this island.
Anyways, you guys, I hope youenjoyed a little walk down
memory lane.
That was fun for us to evenlike reminisce on.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Put this in 24 years into well, I guess we're at 40
minutes, which is pretty long.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I wanted to keep it shorter, but hope you followed
along and had some fun with that, but at the end of the day, we
have lots more to say on thistopic.
There's a a lot of things wecan say, I think, after 24 years
of being together with the sameperson.
So stay tuned for anotherepisode.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, if you're still here listening this far in, we
appreciate you.
Yeah, stay awesome.
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