February 3, 2025 • 62 mins
Uncover the unsettling truth about the "chemical shit storms" we face every day and how they quietly infiltrate our lives. From microplastics lurking in snow to the insidious presence of "forever chemicals" in our cookware, this episode promises to leave you questioning every item you use daily. We'll guide you in understanding the massive impact these toxins have on both our health and the environment, revealing practical steps to reduce exposure and opt for safer, healthier alternatives.
Picture this: a world where synthetic turf harms biodiversity, and cigarette butts contribute to a growing pollution crisis. That's the reality we're facing. We tackle these pressing environmental concerns and highlight the dangers of PFAS—those persistent chemicals found in everything from raincoats to personal care products. By sharing relatable personal experiences and simple solutions, we inspire you to reconsider conventional household products and embrace a cleaner, more conscious lifestyle.
The relationship between our health and the planet's well-being is undeniable. Through engaging discussions, we emphasize the importance of informed consumption, from choosing non-GMO foods to understanding the ingredients in skincare and household items. Our aim is to raise awareness and empower you to be a voice for change, making thoughtful choices that benefit both you and the Earth. Engage with us and join a community committed to fostering a healthier future for all.
Links:
Diary of a CEO Podcast on Toxins
Dr Yvonne Burkhart Toxicologist
The Devil we Know Documentary on Teflon
Dark Waters Movie Trailer , Watch on Google or Apple
Products:
Arbonne Brittany's link if you don't already have an Arbonne Consultant
Our Place Non-Toxic Cook wear Discount link
Toxin Free Bandages from Amazon
Mark as Played
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
you're listening to the love movement with your
hosts britney and brian johnston.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're starting a movement centered around love to
help raise the vibration ofthis beautiful planet.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
If that's your vibe, hang out with us as we chat
about many topics all centeredaround three main pillars Loving
yourself, Loving each other andloving the planet.
So if you're ready, let's jumpin.
Well, hello everybody.
Welcome to our first episode of2025, episode 13.
I think we were keeping peopleon their toes like wondering if
(00:41):
we were doing a podcast thisyear.
What do you?
think we've been talking aboutdoing an episode for the longest
time and we're finally here andit's finally happening,
recording another one, one I'vebeen wanting to do for a really
long time yep, I think ourexcuse is really um, we have a
toddler, so there's like limitedamounts of time to do it, and
(01:03):
he was off for two weeks duringChristmas and then we were on
vacation in Hawaii, so you knowwhat it's like busy.
All of a sudden, two monthspass and here we are, but we
hope to deliver some goodinterviews and episodes as the
year goes on.
So we thought we would kick offepisode 13, our first one of
the year, with a topic, likeBrian said, he wants to talk
(01:24):
about and has wanted to talkabout for a long time, one that
I think will be a hot topic fora lot of people, and it's on
toxins.
We have another word for thatin our house.
What is it?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
you'll hear us talk about chemical shit storms all
the time.
It's like, oh, you know, wesmell something, some kind of
fake fragrance, like oh yeah,chemical shit storm.
Or looking at some food, likeoh yeah, chemical shit storm.
Everything is always chemicalshit storm, because that is,
unfortunately, the world we livein these days.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it's kind of all around us.
Why don't you ask the questionyou wanted to ask the audience?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah.
So what is something thateverybody wants to avoid at all
cost?
Uh, we eat it every day.
We don't always know it's there, but we willingly pay for it,
and it's toxins in all formsthat's crazy and this is a big
one.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Um, we'll link this in the show notes, but one
really good episode is by stevenbartlett, diary of ceo.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
He had a great interview on toxins yeah and
yeah, we'll link that for sure.
And then the doctor uh, I'mgoing to talk about her as well.
That, uh, he interviewed that,he interviewed her.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Her content's great so we're going to talk just
about a whole bunch of things onthis topic.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So, yeah, I started making some notes and then my
notes started expanding and allof a sudden I have notes within
notes, within tiny notes, andit's literally all over the
place.
There's so much stuff to talkabout here well, and since we
were going to record this,because we tried about four
times yeah, all these lifethings kept happening and I was
like oh, that can go on thepodcast yeah, and this is
(03:04):
something that's been on myradar I honestly since for for
years, like decades probably andwhen we talked about doing this
podcast, you said, like we haveto do this episode yeah, and
I'm what?
so what I want to do is I wantto just kind of bring people's
attention to places in your lifewhere you're exposed to toxins
(03:25):
that you might not know, andjust like little little tricks
how to avoid them, and then likewhat kind of harm they can be
doing to you, and just helpingpeople make the connection,
because I think we're in a worldthat's we're just sort of
unaware and it's so prevalentthat it's just gonna you can't
unhear this information.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So we're going to of unaware and it's so prevalent
that it's just gonna you can'tunhear this information.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
so we're gonna apologize in advance, but this
is for our own health andbenefit yeah, and, like me, I'm
a very sciencey guy, so I'malways reading articles about
stuff, like all the time, andI've come across this stuff and
I'm just like oh yeah, thisstuff's common sense, like
everyone knows this stuff.
And then I tell britney she'slike no, that's not common sense
.
No, like Everyone knows thisstuff.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And then I tell Brittany she's like no, that's
not common sense.
No, like literally today, liketalking about eating snow.
It's snowing on the island.
It doesn't ever.
It's been the first two daysit's snowed here.
And you see kids just likeeating snow, and I do.
You did you eat snow as a kid?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I ate snow as a kid, but it's very different than it
was, than it is today.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, cause you were just like he's at Dorset.
I'm like, don't eat that.
And then he brought a snowballin, put it in a in a bowl.
We watched it melt and it isactually disturbing what is in
that snow.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, so, speaking of that, the first thing I want to
talk about is actuallymicroplastics.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Okay, so there we go.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So microplastics, um, basically, it's plastic that
has been broken down into little, tiny pits, smaller than five
millimeters, and it's ineverything.
We ingest it, we inhale it.
Um, it's in the water, it's inthe soil, it gets in our food,
it's, it touches our food.
Um, in my plastic, like plastic, plastic is in everything.
(05:01):
It's like essential part of ourlife, right?
Um?
So we eat about a credit card'sworth of plastic every week,
every week, every week.
Okay, that is disturbing.
So what is that doing to us, asyou know, humans?
But, on the other hand, it'slike, with all this stuff,
(05:22):
everything I'm going to talkabout, it's also we're forcing
all of nature to be impactedfrom it too.
So, every animal that's outthere, they drink unfiltered
water, you know.
They're eating plants that are,you know, in ground.
That's toxic, that's beencontaminated, and this stuff is
every, everywhere, right?
So with plastics, um, so what'sin plastics?
(05:45):
There's phthalates, which islike an endocrine disruptor, uh,
bpas, bisphenols, there's heavymetals, and pfast or pfas, and
like tons and tons and tons.
The list goes on and on and on.
And well, like most plasticsthat, the plastics that were
first introduced in the 50s,they're still on the planet
today.
Wow, and I'm guessing thatthose plastics will be on the
(06:09):
planet long after humans have.
You know, we've killedourselves off from our stupidity
, from how we treat the planetBecause, like some of these
plastics, they you know, they'regoing to take over 400 years to
break down.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So when plastics were invented, was this not known
information?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes, it was all a big lie.
So the thing that really bugsme about plastics everything
that's you know, big pharma, bigoil, big everything, everything
that has a lot of money to bemade there's no integrity.
They know they have informationbut they go around that
information to make profits andit's always profits over people,
over planet, over everything.
And there's real worldconsequences for everything that
we do and people just they.
(06:57):
They don't connect those linksTotally.
So hopefully I'm going to, I'mgoing to connect some of that
here today.
So with like, withmicroplastics, where the most of
them end up is in the ocean.
So the ocean is complete.
You can't go anywhere on theplanet and get a ocean sample
without having plastic in it.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That is really sad.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Like we're talking the farthest reaches of the
Arctic, the Antarctic.
There's plastics everywhere.
So 75% of that plastic isactually from tires, tires From
tires.
Okay.
So here in British Columbia afew years ago there was a study.
They had a massive die-off ofsalmon and the salmon all died
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in the stream right after arainfall, after there'd been a
huge drought.
So tire pit bits and stuffaccumulated on the roadsides
near the.
The river finally rained,washed everything in the river.
Massive amounts of plastic andall those chemicals that go with
it kill all the fish.
(08:01):
So that's when they firststarted linking oh linking the
stuff with tires.
So yeah, tires um clothes.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So I've been hearing a lot about this lately yeah,
everything with clothes.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So everything, every piece of clothing.
That's not a natural like alinen yeah, like cotton, wool,
you know everything, likewhatever our our shirts made of.
They're polyester, everythingright.
There's some kind of plastic,um.
Every time you wash that, itbreaks down a little tiny pieces
and it goes into the sewagetreatment plant and ultimately
(08:35):
gets pumped into a river or anocean or wherever right lakes
like it's.
That's where they end up, andyou can get filters for your uh
washing machine that catch mostof that, which is kind of cool.
Yeah, clean them out weekly, soit'll stop those.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Come with them normally no, but they should
yeah they definitely should.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Um so, yeah, there's lint.
Um, another thing with lintlike when you do a load of
laundry, you put that stuff inthe dryer, all your clothes is
tumbling together and that makeslint and you get in your dryer
trap, right, yeah Well,everything the dryer chap
doesn't catch goes outside andevery single house is emitting
microplastics.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So, every single house that has a dryer is
putting microplastics in theenvironment at where they live
it's like everything that madebeing a human in this day and
age easier has is just reallydestroying it, because back in
the day you just hang it on theline yeah, so trying to hang dry
(09:43):
, I guess any of any of your gymclothes or anything that's not
a natural fiber would eliminatea lot of that, because it's all
rubbing together right, yeah,well, I think about when I dry,
like I am so quick when I takeout the lint from the trap and I
just throw it in the garbageand there's like this kind of
like cloud of stuff and I'msitting there probably breathing
(10:03):
it in, not even thinking.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That was actually.
My next point is talking aboutthat exact thing.
I don't know what's on his.
So when I, when I take that out, I I take a big breath, I take
it out.
I try to take it out inside thedryer I know, and then I put it
I put it in the in the garbage,close it and then, once I get
away from the area, I'mbreathing again.
I'm like that sounds silly, butyou're inhaling the tiniest
(10:28):
bits of fibers you couldpossibly have right there at the
site and that's an exposureright okay, we're all holding
our breath.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm doing the lint trap.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's note to self yeah, and people don't think
about this stuff, but it's likeI don't know, I'm weird like
that.
I think about the weirdestlittle things.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's why we're sharing it with people.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, so I'm just sharing this with people.
Fishing nets are anothermassive contributor.
A lot of fishermen, oncethey're done or a net breaks,
they just toss it in the oceanand then obviously it kills
animals all over the place.
Things get tangled, but asthose break down, it, uh, just
(11:08):
creates more plastic in theocean.
Um, so the plastic is alsogetting in the fish that we eat.
So you, any wild caught fishnow, or pretty much any fish you
can go and you know, dissect itand you'll find plastic in in
the meat is there anywhere thatthere isn't plastic?
in rocks that were formedbillions of years ago.
That's pretty much it.
(11:29):
Like how do we fix this?
So, speaking of that, so we'rein the age called the
Anthropocene, so that's like oneof the eras, right?
So Anthropocene is here.
I got a little thing here.
It's a period in Earth'shistory when humans have had a
significant impact on the planet, and some examples are climate
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change, pollution, biodiversityloss and the chemical
composition of, like the oil orthe soils, oceans, in the
atmosphere.
So we've impacted the planet onsuch a scale now that we're
living in a different, completeera oh my gosh, I love that for
us yeah, and there's actually amovie called anthropocene uh,
(12:13):
from 2018.
I remember watching it.
Back then I was like, oh my god, this is it's it's.
It's sad and bleak.
Is is what it is, but it's areality that we live in now,
unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So does that circle back to the snow?
Because that's coming out ofthe atmosphere.
You think it's clean.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So, yeah, kids, today it snowed here today.
Kids are eating snow and I'mjust like, no, do not eat the
snow, you don't know what's init.
So Marty took some snow hometoday, we put it in a bowl,
melted it.
And snow home today.
We put it in a bowl, melted itand in this one snowball he
grabbed beside the street.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The amount of microplastics in there and it
appeared to look like a fluffy,clean piece of snow yeah,
there's hundreds, hundreds ofpieces of plastic in there and
it's just there's like a cup ofit in a bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So then I went to the back deck and I picked a
pristine one that's never beentouched by anything, and it was
a lot, but there was stillplastic in it.
So there's plastic in rain,there's plastic in snow, every
reach of the planet, like onland even so I talked about like
(13:18):
Antarctic and stuff and theoceans but on land, a pristine
lake that's untouched by mansomewhere has plastic in it
because it's in the rain oh mygod, we can't escape it you
really can't escape it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
All we can do is do our best to avoid it there's one
thing in our house that I knowdrives you the craziest,
something that I still use, andI know I got to get rid of them.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
uh, I should know this.
I don't know what all themicrofiber?
Oh right yes, microfiber rags.
Okay, this is, this is a bigone.
So, britney years ago we'retalking like 15 years ago and we
bought all these microfiberrags and we're using them and
everything face cloths and facecleaning and glass cleaning rags
exactly and cloths we'rewashing, we're washing our
(14:06):
dishes with them.
We're, you know, drying offfruit with them.
And one day, um, I cleaned myglasses with them and I looked
at my glass.
I'm like what the heck is allover my glasses?
And it was like a light bulbmoment.
I looked and it was my glasseswere completely full of
microfibers off these cloths andI was like, oh my God, I wash
(14:29):
my apples with these stupidthings, dry them.
Every time I have an apple, Iwash my apple and I dry it, so
I'm putting microplastics onthem before you eat it, exactly.
So there's another thing avoidjust microfiber.
Cloths are microplastic makingmachines.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's funny because the marketing is like these are
micro fiber cloths, they're sogreat for you, and like if
you're a girl and you're usingthese for makeup removal, it
works.
Like they're nice.
They're not.
They don't tug and pull at yourskin.
But like what should we beusing?
Cotton, cotton uh bamboo like,or just good products that kind
of melt your makeup off, which Iuse now, but it's just, it's
(15:08):
inferior and you really can'tescape it anywhere um what about
in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
what are things that we did get rid of a long time
ago, but a lot of people usethese cutting boards, huge we
were at a friend's house earlierand they're probably listening
to this, but I seen they wereusing a plastic cutting board
and I said I just blame thecentury and I'll like you gotta
throw that in the garbage rightnow, like do not cut anything
else on that.
And you look at it and it's allchewed up and it's you know
(15:34):
from like the cut marks andusing an iphone, it's not flat
anymore.
It's got dips in it.
I'm like you've eaten all thatplastic.
Yeah, it's all.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You need two credit cards this week.
Yeah, exactly oh, so get rid ofthat and something else that if
you're a mom and you have likeyour little toddler plates brian
is always on me about I am notallowed to cut anything on a
plastic plate.
First you cut it on a regularplate or a wooden cutting
cutting board or whatever andthen put it on the kid plate.
(16:01):
And lots of times I'll go to myfriends houses or people's
places and I'll see like theirkids' plastic plates and just
cut marks every which way.
Again, we're feeding our kidsplastic but like I'm telling you
, no one's doing this on purpose.
We're not like oh, let's justadd microplastic to the meal.
People don't understand howit's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And another example salt shaker.
Remember that.
Oh my God, I forgot about thatone.
Oh my gosh this is over a yearago when, before we stopped
drinking, I was makingmargaritas and I had the salt
grinder and I was grinding somesalt on a plate and I'm like why
is there all this?
What's all this black stuff inthere?
And I look really closely andit was black plastic out of the
(16:45):
grinder.
So as you turn the salt, it wastaking plastic and grinding it
up inside and spitting it outthe bottom we can't help
ourselves.
It's so frustrating and youcan't use sea salt.
So if you're, if you're buyingsalt, don't buy sea salt,
because sea salt automaticallyhas plastic in it, because all
the plastic in the ocean youhave to buy himalayan, like pink
(17:06):
salt or a salt that comes froma rock that's been in like a
celtic salt, yeah, some kind ofsalt that's been in rock form
before humans were here, like ahimalayan salt is a great, oh,
my goodness, okay people areprobably gonna need to take
notes about this, or they'regonna stop listening because
they can't handle how it's justruining their lives at this
point well, you just got to beaware of it and stop doing it,
(17:27):
because, like humans are goingto pay for this, and like we
already are we already are.
I mean, you can't deny thatwe're sicker than we've ever
been yeah, well, and where?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
where else did microplastics show up?
Like weren't you saying at onepoint, like a fetus?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
it was in like fetuses oh it's in every organ
in our body.
It's in my balls, it's in your,it's in your skin, it's in,
it's in everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's in every part of your body and this is, like I
would say, for women too, or mentoo, but like major hormone
disrupting huge hormonedisrupting um it's been.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
They found it in placentas.
Now they've pretty much.
They've pretty much found inevery single placenta that
they've tested in the last fewyears.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Glad I did placenta encapsulation and also ate that
yeah, recycled plastics, oh myGod.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But, they're also finding it in the fetus and
they're finding it in people'sbrains, so it's going past the
blood brain barrier.
It's like what?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Who invented plastic?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't know that's.
You need a time machine.
I mean, there's been a lot ofbenefits from plastic, but we're
not doing ourselves any favors.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
No, and I think a lot of people that are just like
you know, kind of turn theirnose up to this stuff will
likely, a, they're not listeningto this, but b you know,
they're like we couldn't livewithout plastic yeah, um, a lot
of things that make plastic soft, like the bpas and stuff like
that are the hormone disruptor,so like vinyl is a bad one, uh,
shower curtains or another badone like and can we talk for a
(18:59):
minute about um black plastic?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
oh, black plastic.
Yeah, so a lot of black plasticis made from recycled
electronics.
You Electronics are naturallyfull of like flame retardants,
right Like PFAs and stuff likethat.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So where's black plastics, like, I think, every
time you buy like a chicken atthe store, like those chickens,
like the cooked chickens?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, cooked chicken, that's in like a black thing or
takeout dishes from like anyrestaurant.
Yeah, those are all blackplastic.
And then what do you do withthe food?
You put the black plastic inthe freaking microwave and make
your make it worse.
Well, that's another thing I'mgoing to get to.
Um, but like uh, utensils for,you know, making soup, and like
you know, the black kitchenutensils, oh, my god, we have
(19:39):
some of those.
Oh no, I got rid of a lot ofthem, but we still have a couple
, but I don't use them anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I just, but we shouldn have a couple.
But I don't use them anymore, Ijust use, but we shouldn't be
using them.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Just use wood ones.
Okay, use wood.
Um, bamboo is actually probablymy favorite thing to use in the
kitchen now.
Wow, anything else on blackplastic, um well, plastic in
general.
Don't heat it up.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah.
Cause you're just the chemicalsin it are just leing more into.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I've seen at the start of the day.
It was like a bag of broccoli.
Oh, just throw it in themicrowave, steam ready.
I'm like no.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I mean we've known this for years, Like I.
I mean we've been together for25 years and I remember when we
were in high school, like youyelling at your mom about like
take that, stupid, you know theplastic thing over you put over
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the food in the microwave, thatoff.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
why is and?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I remember being a kid growing up putting that over
think oh, I'm not gettingsplatter all over my microwave.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, we're putting we're killing ourselves with
plastic saran wrap on your stuffand heating.
Oh my gosh, I do remember that.
Never, ever, ever, heat plasticup, ever, ever, okay, when it's
touching your food because it'sinstantly releasing
microplastics and all the toxinsalong with it directly into
your food.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Okay, um cups starbucks go to timmy's oh, this
is where brian has.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Really, I'm gonna, you're not gonna unhear this,
you guys, you're not gonnaunhear this ever have you ever
gone a day in like your life, inthe last you know, 10, 15 years
, without seeing somebodyholding a?
Um disposable cup from like timhortons or starbucks or a
coffee shop and they're justsipping it and blah, blah, blah.
So it's a paper cup but it'slined with plastic.
(21:14):
What happens when you put heaton plastic is it releases all
those chemicals.
So one cup of coffee or onelittle thing of coffee or tea or
whatever, when you put thehottest liquid in possible, yeah
, like we're talking tens ofthousands of bits of
microplastic right there.
So every day you're plastic,microplastic maxing on every
(21:37):
single cup that you have microdosing microplastic yep, so you
know I purposely microdosemushrooms.
But every day we unintentionallyyeah, micro microdose plastic
and a bunch of other chemicals.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I'm not really a Starbucks drinker, but when I'm
at an airport I tend to get oneand I don't enjoy it anymore
because all I think about isthat.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
So just get yourself like a stainless steel go cup, a
Yeti kind of thing, and justgive them that.
Will they do that?
Yeah, a lot of places will theyshould.
I don't see why not.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, Well, and then it helps with, like, the litter
and all the things.
Because I just think of, likeme and Marty went for a walk a
couple weeks ago and I had acouple of dog bags.
Obviously, if the dogs went,number two and he just started
picking up garbage on the groundI mean he's three but he sees
you do taught, and he alwayssees you picking up garbage,
leaving things better than youfound it.
So he's like mommy, garbage,garbage.
(22:31):
And we had an entire dog bagfull of garbage after walking
like four blocks in a very niceneighborhood and you know like
most of that bag was full ofplastic Cups that people just
throw on the street.
First of all, littering.
Why are we littering?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Come on, yeah, we got to teach our kids better.
We have to teach our kidsbetter, like we've taught Marty.
Marty knows what's good and bad.
Now he's like that's not goodfor the earth, right, like that
hurts the earth.
I'm like, yeah, it doesn't justhurt the earth, it hurts
everybody, because a lot ofplaces, but what about the dog
bag?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well, it's plastic, yes, and they say it's
biodegradable, but most of themreally aren't.
But some people take their dogbag, they go in the woods and
then they put their poop in abag and then they just throw the
bag in the woods.
I'm like, well, what was thepoint of that?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Is that why people do it?
Because they think it's justgoing to be biodegradable.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yes, but yeah, it just doesn't make any sense, so
just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I should be taking what a paper bag to pick up my
garbage?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No, You're going to have to use the plastic bag in
that case.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I guess, yeah, I'm picking up more plastic than I'm
throwing out.
But anyways.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So just leave everywhere better than you found
it.
Pick up plastic.
It's Brian's golden rule Leaveeverything and everyone better
than you found it Like when wewent to rica, I went for a hike
up the beach and I purposelybrought bags with me, like big
garbage bags, because I knew Iwas going to find plastic on the
beach.
I could have brought back like10 giant garbage bags for
plastic easy.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I brought back as much as I possibly could well
then, we were just in hawaii andyou were out just swimming in
the water and you kept bringingall the stuff you're finding.
Oh, yeah, we'll post pictureson our instagram and keep it in
our highlights so you guys cansee it.
But yeah, it's like why is thisstuff just in beautiful nature,
in the most beautiful?
It doesn't belong.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
No we just have to be better stewards, and you know
this is a challenge I'm going toput out to everyone that's
listening.
Is you find plastic?
Just pick it up pick it up yeah, just be your role model for
everyone around you.
Just be that person, right?
That's good, good advice.
Uh, remember, we've been making.
I was making ghee the other day.
Oh my gosh, you guys, we makeghee.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
We've been making this for a long time.
I don't know what ghee is.
It's like clarified butter yeah, so you heat it up takes out
most of the micro or most of thedairy, yeah, milk solids and,
yeah, you literally heat up thisbutter on the stove until it
becomes clarified and to get theghee to separate the milk
solids from the liquid gold youput it through.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
What is it called?
Well, it's a nut milk bag, soit's a really fine bag, like a
cheesecloth right, and I'mpouring it through.
I'm like holy shit, this bag isplastic it's plastic.
I'm like, oh my god.
So now I'm maxing out myplastic dose on my ghee every
day.
So now, how do we make ghee?
Make ghee.
We have to get a natural fiberone.
Oh my gosh.
So another thing for us to do.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's like where in your day can you see that you're
unintentionally eatingmicroplastic?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
All right, while we're talking about bags, let's
talk about tea bags.
So tea bags are usually made ofsome of them are made of like a
type of paper, but a lot ofthem are made of actual plastic.
So when you take your hotteabag and you put it in your or
your teabag and you put it inyour hot water, instantly you
have microplastic soup.
(25:43):
So you need to look for teabagsthat are paper.
Or you can take like loose teaor open up a plastic tea bag and
and put it in one of thoselittle I don't like a little
stainless thing, thing orsomething that just goes into
your, into your cup, so you cansoak it, soak the tea that way,
instead of exposing yourself tothe plastic in the bag.
(26:05):
Uh, okay, another thing carpets,carpets.
Every carpet is made ofmicroplastics.
Okay, so they get in the air.
So our air inside our house, um, especially if you have like
moving air, like a furnace orsome kind of fan system, it's
blowing it around all the time.
I see it on our stove everymorning right when I wake up.
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And well, the kitchen utensils,you know.
And well, the kitchen utensils,you know.
Some people grab the kitchenutensils that it's beside the
stove just sitting out therelike your big spoons and all
that, and those grab it, and youknow.
Next, time you cook something,use it.
Well, I looked at them one day.
I'm like this is covered inplastics, microplastics.
So you rinse off that stuff,anything that's out that can get
plastic on it.
(26:47):
It's going to touch food.
Rinse it off, yeah, please.
But carpets yeah, carpets aremicroplastics.
Carpets are full of all kindsof chemicals, fire retardants
like stain-resistant chemicals,and yeah, it gets in the air.
We breathe it in.
So vacuum more as much as youcan.
I usually vacuum every two daysat least.
(27:08):
Yeah, you can Like.
I usually vacuum every two daysat least, yeah you do.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
We've always been on the carpets, you know get the
corners.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
And if you've got kids babies especially crawling
on the floor like their nose isright there sucking that stuff
up.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Or would you just say don't have carpets?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, I don't know.
Carpets are nice, but you canget natural fiber carpets too.
Okay, just pay a fortune forthem, but they're available.
Get a HEPA filter.
Is that what we have?
We have one in both our rooms.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So we can link our bedrooms.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, marty's bedroom , our bedroom.
We have HEPA filters and theyjust run all the time.
It catches insane amounts ofstuff.
So another thing right there um, floss, uh well, I'm going to
talk about that one when I talkabout pfas a little bit more, um
.
But let's talk about throughput.
(28:00):
No one knows what throughput is.
What is that?
Throughput is a term for whenyou buy something at the store,
it's the part of the item thatyou buy that is destined for the
trash.
It's all the packaging.
So sometimes you'll go and buysomething and there's more
packaging than product.
Actually, quite often, Right.
(28:20):
We ought to make everything lookso amazing in this packaging
and everything's destined forthe landfill.
What's an example?
Everything you go and buyrazors, you go and buy this
mouse that I got for thelandfill.
What's like an example?
Everything you go and buyrazors, you go and buy like this
mouse that I got for thecomputer.
Like everything, everythingcomes in plastic.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But I even think one simple thing that I was thinking
is silly is toilet paper.
Oh, toilet paper, likeindividually wrapped.
Oh yeah, toilet paper, justripping up all the plastic.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You go to Costco and they got plastic encased and
then plastic encased again onthe inside.
It's literally why you don'tbuy it there.
We like to pay money for ournice toilet paper yeah, we
actually have been using abamboo toilet paper and it's
really nice actually probablythe nicest I've ever used and
we're not cutting down trees andbamboo grows like crazy.
Yeah, it's very sustainable.
(29:06):
So, and that's not individuallywrapped and that.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
In plastic.
Okay, that's something to thinkabout.
What's it called Throughput?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Throughput.
So that's a thing that we canthink about in our chain of
consumerism on how we get stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So I know one thing when I was doing little yogurts
I thought, well, this would benice for Marty, just little
yogurts.
And you're no, it's like ahundred million little pieces of
plastic.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
buy the jug of yogurt yeah, and you know that
yogurt's touching food or likecheese like why cheese drinks or
that, uh any, all that food issorry, is touching the plastic
well, yeah, that's another thing.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
But yeah, you know, like cheese strings, like just
buy a block of cheese yeah, yeah, like think about the plastic
the packaging of things.
That's really a good I.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean, just look and be a little bit mindful in a
week's time as you're throwingstuff in a garbage can how much
plastic there is and you're besurprised.
Yeah, I wish I had that stat ofhow much plastic people use
every year.
It's mind-boggling like ourworld is now plastic.
There's plastic fossils now onbeaches that have melted from
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the sun and they've just becomeone with the earth because
they've just kind of melted intothe earth.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Something else with plastic, whenever, if you ever
do they do this anymore withcans, Like where they have, like
you have to take the cans offthat little six ring can thing.
You know what I'm talking about, oh yeah, the little holder for
a six pack and you you'd alwayssay, cut that before you throw
it in the garbage, because ifnot it's going to end up and
it's going to like kill a turtlewell, I could, and I've seen it
but things like that, like Ididn't even think of that.
I mean, I think of it all thetime now, whenever there's like
(30:40):
a round well, it's kind of likea little danny fishing net yeah,
think about it.
Right, I also got on plasticbecause it feels like a never
ending list.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Oh man, I know we're going to miss stuff on that, but
it's, I guess it's justeverywhere and we don't want it.
We don't want to be around it.
Yeah, we want to try to avoidit as much as possible and
hopefully what I some of thethings I just talked about will,
will help you do that.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Well, a couple of things, I guess, that have
happened since we were going torecord this episode and then
haven't, hadn't recorded.
It was our son was pretendingto be a puppy and he was had a
little stuffy like in his mouth,like a little um, what are
those called?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Like the gingerbread man thing.
Yeah, it was like a fleece,like a jelly cat type thing.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
And I didn't think anything.
I just thought, oh fun, he'splaying like being a puppy and
there's a thing in his mouth andhe's going around and barking
and you're like, get that out ofyour mouth.
And I was like, brian, it'sfine.
And you're like he's literallyeating plastic, he's sucking on
this stuffy and I think like howmany kids suck on stuffies?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, they're eating plastic right there.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So there's one weird thing.
And then we had neighbors we'llmove a house for sale beside us
and these people rolled up andBrian's like, oh great turf.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh yes, the neighbors putting in fake grass.
Fake grass is the biggest BSthing I've ever seen.
First off, you're taking awayall biodiversity.
Nothing's going to come upthrough the ground.
Nothing's going to go from thetop side into the ground.
You're creating microplasticsbecause now that's, every time
the sun hits it, it's breakingit down.
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Every time it rains, it'sbreaking it down, it's breaking
it into the soil, it's washingoff into wherever, just getting
in the environment.
It should be like, not allowed.
It should be completely illegal.
It's legal.
Littering is what it is.
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And cigarette butts.
Sorry for everybody, Okaycigarette butts.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
One cigarette butt is hundreds of thousands of
microplastics, because it'sliterally made of microplastics.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
There's one thing we have a little bit of tolerance
for, it's A smoking and Bthrowing your butts on the
ground.
Yeah, so if that's you and ifyou're smoking, just don't put
them on the ground, Just don'tsmoke, just don't put them on
the ground, just don't smoke.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Well, also that this is your year.
Don't love yourself a littlemore, love the planet a little
more.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's crazy, though that's a lot of microplastics in
that.
I keep coming back like this isa lot.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
This could be a microplastics, oh my god, okay,
well, let's talk about toxinsnext okay, part two, I'll try to
make this quick, so let's ornot.
Toxins, uh, pfas or pfas, whichare forever chemicals, so
they're a chemical bond thatjust never breaks down.
Okay, so this is per andpolyfluoroalkaline substances.
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There's over four.
There's almost 5 000 differentsubstances of these and they are
in every single person on theplanet's blood for one.
They, uh.
What do they do here?
They cause cancer.
They are hormone disrupting.
Uh, again, uh, liver, thyroidissues, reproductive issues on a
(33:41):
massive scale, so like theyreally mess with fetal
development.
When they were making thischemical, they told every female
on the line, uh, that theycouldn't be there anymore, but
they didn't give them a reasonwhy.
Oh my, they knew about this,but they allowed it to go
forward.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
So would this be contributing to like issues that
kids have when they're born, orwould it contribute to abortion
or like not abortion?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Miscarriages, Miscarriages.
I mean all this stuff adds upto a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And I think miscarriages too, and not that
we make any sort of claims orgive a stat, but like I don't
know if people just talk aboutit more, or was it always this
common, because I feel like it'svery common.
I don't know the stat on it,but like it makes you wonder,
like all of this has to beconnected, I mean when a baby or
someone miscarries that baby,just it's not developing because
(34:34):
it's not an environment that'sperfect for it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, so it's.
It doesn't progress.
Yeah, sadly, and all this stuffis a contributor that's right,
and it's little by little, bylittle, microdosing all these
things by a million cuts.
That's a hundred percent andit's.
It's so sad.
Um, so yeah, you'll find thisstuff in firefighting foam,
non-stick cookware like get ridof anything, t-fal, especially
(34:57):
like you scratch.
One little tiny scratch is like90 000 particles or something
like that of that's on thepodcast with yeah, it's it's
crazy, um, so we we've gone toum, always pan by our place.
Yeah, that's the one we're usingnow.
So they have a non-stick,non-toxic ceramic coating, which
(35:18):
is really great.
Um, any, a lot of packaging.
Takeout foods again.
So you get that, you knowcardboard thing with the the
liner inside.
Those are full of pfas, right,uh, straws, you get paper straws
.
Paper straws in the middle,pfas plastic in the middle of
paper straws.
Yes, so, so anything waterresistant, water resistant
(35:40):
fabrics you think raincoats umyour carpets, couches, uh,
anything water resistant uh ispfas umain resistant fabrics
like carpets, cleaning products,personal care products like
stuff we're meant to putdirectly on our body.
Yeah, and this stuff is insanelytoxic.
You guys like insanely toxicBand-Aids, so you got an open
(36:04):
cut with a direct path into yourbloodstream and there's pfas in
the band-aid that goes on yourcuff so what do you do instead
of a band-aid like what is theanswer here?
There are companies that arepfa free that you can get it's
mad, this is maddening.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, let's talking about?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
uh, nail polish.
It's a nail polish, it's an eyemakeup.
This is the dental fussingyou're talking about.
So we've been using this, uh,glide floss like six or ten pack
from costco.
Yeah like works really good.
And then one day I'm looking atthis, I'm like this looks like
teflon tape that you use whenyou're doing plumbing right, and
(36:46):
so then we've seen a thing allabout it and it's literally full
of pfa.
So you're putting these pfasdirectly in your mouth, on your
gums, and it's going directly inyour bloodstream, micro dosing
it every single day.
So we got a new floss recentlythat's uh made.
What is it?
Charcoal bamboo and there's avegan wax on it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
It's been amazing, and our dental hygienist, she
got it, she got it she loves itand she has, she loves it Makes
us think too about like I don'tknow if you have an answer about
this, but toothbrush bristles.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, like those are microplastics too, but they
don't really break down enoughto do anything.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
But we're all throwing out heads.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Oh, the heads yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Like we have electric toothbrushes and we're always
replacing the heads, or you'rehaving a toothbrush and you're
throwing the toothbrushes out.
Like think of everybody in theworld brushing their teeth and
how many toothbrushes in a life.
Do you have A?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
lot.
Like it's stuff like that.
So I recently found areplacement head for our Oral-B
electric toothbrush yeah, areplacement head for our Oral-B
electric toothbrush that's madeof bamboo and the bristles are
plant-based Interesting, and allbiodegrades, okay.
So that's what we're going tobe getting next, okay, another
place you'll find PFAs ismicrowave popcorn bags.
So, they're in there.
(38:05):
Plus, you're heating them up,which releases them more.
Now you have a toxic bowl ofpopcorn.
Awesome, those Ziploc plasticbags that you put food in.
There's traces of PFAs in thereBottled water.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Oh, you ruined bottled water for me.
You know the health is not tolike.
I need bottled water.
You go on a trip, I needbottled water.
It's like terrible, yeah.
So the bottled water also hasthe microplastics in it
Ridiculous amount ofmicroplastics in the bottled
water also has the microplasticsin it.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Ridiculous amount of microplastics in the bottled
water.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
So put your bottled water in glass or stainless
steel so when we travel, wealways just bring lots of
bottles um plastic.
Well, not glass, that's heavy,but like stainless steel, is
usually what we have, and youjust always refill them at the.
Well, sometimes you like find ahose behind the.
How do you explain?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
it.
The ice machine?
Yeah, yeah, sometimes I findlike filtered water.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, sometimes ice machines at hotels have a filter
in the back and you canactually there's a little
offshoot on it and you can getwater directly to that and I
think hotels are getting smarter, because we were just at the
hyatt in maui and they had likea station to fill up with water,
so so you just go and you'dalways take all of your bottles
fill them with water.
So we really avoided allbottled water.
Yeah, but that's like a goalnow is to avoid bottled water.
Or I go to the airport.
(39:16):
I'm like I'm just going to grabsome you know, expensive ass
bottled water and you're likehow do you like?
Sun will also also also leachmicroplastics.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
so there's another one there yeah, so just, I don't
know, this is a hard one.
They're starting to phase this,this stuff, out in places, but
(39:43):
when it's all phased out, it'sstill going to be in our system
and on the planet for for ages.
Uh, so, two documentaries ortwo films that people should
watch on this.
There's a documentary calledthe devil, we know, and that
one's all about, uh well, Ithink both these shows are about
the same thing.
Um, it's all about dupont andkind of what happened at their
(40:03):
main plant and when, when theywere making pfas.
And then there's a movie calleddark waters, and if you want to
know the truth about this andhow shady and corrupt large
companies are like there's,think about this.
There's people who made thesedecisions to move forward with
(40:23):
this stuff, knowing how bad itwas, but they can hide behind a
corporation and they'reprotected like the people are
protected.
People made these decisions todo this, yeah, knowing like no,
integrity no it's, it's horrible, all right.
Anything else that you want toadd for toxins?
No, I feel like for pfas.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
The only place that we've maybe had it sort of what
figured out is our personal hairproducts.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Do you feel Like when I think that's?
You know, when I started usingArbonne products, like 19 years
ago, I remember not having, Imean, and I was like 20, but I
remember thinking I neverconnected the dots about what I
put on my skin goes into my body, like I didn't even make that
connection.
I know that might sound sillybecause you're listening.
You're like well, duh, but somepeople might not even realize
(41:12):
that, like the lotions you uselike perfume.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, like VOCs.
So let me talk about that.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Okay, so that's the next section VOCs.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, let's talk about VOCs.
So VOCs are volatile organiccompounds, so it's basically
everything that has a smell,whether it's natural, from, like
you know, a tree, like thatnice pine smell when you go in
the forest, or a flower, oreverything man-made that has a
smell.
The difference is the man-madeones are toxic, the other ones
are fine.
(41:40):
Yeah, for the most part.
So you want to have noteverything natural?
Um, so vocs will.
Um, yeah, there's the.
Basically vocs are off-gassing.
So it's like oh, I love thatnew car smell, so you love
off-gassing chemicals I used toalways say that so everything
that has a smell.
(42:01):
Um, like when you, you know,start up a computer and computer
gets hot, you know, sometimesthat has a smell, right yeah
everything has a smell.
Right yeah, Everything has asmell.
It's in fuels, paints,basically everything that's
petrochemical based Cleaningsupplies, laundry detergents.
Oh, that's great.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
God, yes, all this stuff.
So, oh man, there's so manythings to talk about here too.
Let's talk about laundrydetergents here.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Quick Chemical shitstorm, that's a big chemical
shit storm.
Yeah, just walking outside andyou can just smell people doing
laundry like you shouldn't smellthat yeah, so if you smell
someone's laundry, it's chemicalshit, you're posing yourself to
vocs.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Um, like walking down the cleaning aisle at a grocery
store.
The worst instant headache andjust sick.
Yeah.
But some people, like someonewho's not hasn't removed that
stuff from their life yet, theywill walk down that aisle and
they're like, oh, whatever, itsmells great Once you've
restarted removing the stufffrom your life, and then you get
exposed to it again.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
You're like.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I remember back in the day I used to clean with
pine salt and the only way Ifelt like my house was clean is
if I smelt the pine salt.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Did you know?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
there's not any actual pine in pine salt I'm not
surprised at this point, butyou know what I mean like so
back years and years ago it tookme a while to realize you can
still clean without the smell ofa chemical shitstorm cleaner.
And then that translated intoour laundry soap and we switched
that years and years ago, neverusing fabric sheets or fabric
(43:32):
sheets are horrible.
They're basically coating yourclothes oh my gosh, why do those
exist?
um, those unstoppable littlebeads that to make your laundry
smell good just walk to yourlaundry room right now and take
any of this things that we'retalking about and throw them out
yeah, you're not doing anyone,like a lot of people have.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
You're not doing anyone any favors.
Yeah, like the smell is no good, especially if you have kids.
Like you have skinsensitivities like and this
stuff's absorbing it throughyour skin again, like there's so
many things.
It just infuriates me that youknow you watch if you see a
commercial or anything or anadvertisement about these.
Oh, the fresh scent of gain,the fresh scent of chemical shit
(44:13):
storm.
No, remove that out of yourlife.
Everything should be natural.
Like we've been forced intothis belief that the only way
anything is clean is with somekind of chemical and we
willingly pay money to thesechemical companies to expose
(44:36):
ourselves to it and just think,like when you use anything
liquid, um, you're putting it inthe laundry, you're putting it
down the drain, or soap orwhatever.
It's all going in theenvironment through the water,
yeah, so look, go, look down theaisle of the laundry detergent.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
All that stuff is going in the water, yeah one
thing that sucks the most is allthe stuff that you could swap
to that's a better alternativeis usually more expensive, but
not always that's true.
Your laundry or the dishwasherpods we've been using for a long
time are not no, they'reactually cheaper and they work
great.
Yeah, so like dishwasher podsthey're also like chemical shit
(45:12):
storm dishwasher pods, so badfor your guts, like actual gut
health, which is whateverybody's talking about right
now.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
It's who would have thought like that is something
to change yes, everything thatyou have in your house for
cleaning soap, everything, everykind of soap can be swapped
over to something natural.
We've been using Mel Luca.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, and Modera for a long time.
For a long time, modera soap.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, and there's a lot of natural stuff at most
stores now too.
Yeah, a lot of better options.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
But I think it's weird when you because for me it
was really weird to associateclean without the smell and so
if that's still you, you justgot to get used to it.
And the more you're, like yousaid, unexposed to it, the more
you'll notice it, because even Iused to be able to wear all
kinds of different perfumes.
We both did.
We had our favorites.
I had like a perfume collectionI know it's great.
Cologne, yeah, and then straightup phthalates, phthalates,
straight up phthalates.
And so then I was like well,there's only this brand that I
(46:12):
can use, or this brand.
I literally can use nothing,nothing anymore, because I get
such a headache.
And it's like interesting whenyou think about that, like if a
perfume lingers, if you smell it, it's full of the yeah,
everything, everything that has.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
If you you got to turn around, turn it around and
read the back of it.
If it says fragrance and itdoesn't say natural or no
phthalates that fragrance can belike.
I can't remember how manychemicals, like 4 000 different
chemicals or something like thatlisten to the, if you're, if
this is an interesting topic foryou.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Do go listen to the Diary of a CEO podcast, because
that was the one that really gotus our wheels spinning more for
this podcast too.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah, so it has to say natural fragrance.
Yeah, so you want everythingjust to be fragranced with
essential oil, basically.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
And for perfume, like I just love an essential oil
roller and just have it and putit on more often speaking of
things with smells candles, aswe're sitting here with one.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
yes, so candles also endocrine disruptors,
carcinogens, fragrances,formaldehyde, benzene, toluene,
pm 2.5, which is particulatematter5, which is a tiny, tiny
particles that go down into yourlungs when you breathe.
Yeah, so your candles, most ofthem, are made from um petroleum
(47:32):
wax.
Um, sometimes there's,sometimes there's lead in the
wicks.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
So you want to have cotton wicks, wood wicks um
beeswax is the best kind of ofwax um soy wax, coconut wax, any
kind of any kind of everythingnatural, and then no fragrance
in there.
So if you're trying to find adeal on a candle and you look at
the bottom and it doesn't sayum natural scents or whatever
(48:01):
essential oil scents, don't buyit well, remember, there's a
giant one from that brand Iliked at costco and I was like
I'm gonna get this and you turnit around, you're like no, it
said soy blend yeah, they try totrick you in the marketing yeah
.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
So soy blend is it's probably like one percent soy
and 99 percent especially, yougot kids in your house babies,
toddlers, whatever, yeah, I meanjust ourselves and you're
inhaling it yeah, those pluginsthat you put in your house to
make smell those I don't know.
Or like car fresheners, thatyou hang in your car like is it
1999 yeah, all that's chemicalshit store I remember having a
(48:34):
peach tree, like the trees thatyou hung in your on your rear
view mirror.
Yeah, like the peach smellingones, thinking like my car
smells good.
Yeah, do people still use.
Still use those today.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, I've seen.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
I literally I just can't believe that the things
that should be illegal, that arenot.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Oh, toilet bowl cleaners, that's another one.
You can get good toilet bowlcleaners in our.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
What's your take on bleach?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
There's people that are like I need bleach for this?
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Like what's bleach about, I wonder.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I don't know, I don't think it's really necessary,
because it ends up in the wateryeah, well, look at the process,
where it's made and what thatentails.
And yeah, you're also exposingyourself to the chlorine too,
which is not awesome so this isa real upper in terms of a
podcast.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, um.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
We talk about cooking , so natural gas stoves oh yeah,
um, unfortunately who?
Speaker 1 (49:28):
knew this was such a culprit.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
You're exposing yourself to benzene, carbon
monoxide and a bunch of otherchemicals.
So if you're, especially ifyour house isn't your hood, your
hood range or whatever isn'texhausted to the outside, it's
all collecting in your housewell, some people probably cook
on a on a gas range without thefan on yeah so if you have a gas
(49:53):
range stove, make sure you havethe fan on, turn the fan and
that it's vented outside rightaway um, but if you are shopping
for ovens, maybe don't pick gasyeah, we had one and it was
honestly a huge pain in the assto clean.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
We don't prefer it yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Induction is our preference.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, but we didn't realize it was so much for the
health benefit 100%, yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
So a great way to detox yourself from a lot of
this stuff first, exercisesweating really gets a lot of
this stuff out of you, so workup a really, really, really good
sweat.
So that's one way.
Another way is glutathione.
So this is an essential aminoacid that your body actually
makes, and they call this themaster antioxidant.
(50:39):
So this is from so your bodymakes this from sulfuric
vegetables mostly, so thingsthat are high is broccoli
especially broccoli sprouts is,I think, has the highest
concentration, like cauliflower,garlic, asparagus but by
organic probably, yeah, byorganic, and you know I'm going
to talk about uh food here in asecond too.
(51:03):
But um, bedding, that wasanother one.
So are you sleeping on a foammattress?
Yeah so your foam mattress isprobably be made from
polyurethane, which is alsoreleasing vocs as you sleep.
So your pillow should be madeout of natural fibers, because
this stuff's breaking downcontinuously too, right?
(51:25):
you're breathing it in for halfyour life yeah, so you get
exposed to it every night as yousleep.
So we bought a latex bed.
Yeah, we have cotton duvet.
Um, no, silk duvet, cottonduvet cover.
Our my main pillow now actuallyis latex with like cotton
pillowcase and tensile I don'tknow if it's tensile Bamboo,
(51:48):
bamboo sheets.
Yeah, that's what we got, sojust like another swap there.
And then food.
We can talk a little bit aboutfood.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
So some people think buying organic is overrated.
What do you say to that?
Speaker 2 (52:00):
No, for many reasons.
No, for many reasons.
First, like there is somechemicals on organic, but
they're not the same chemicalsthat you'll find on traditional
food.
But the chemicals, like peoplesay, there's like a two list,
there's the dirty dozen and theclean 15 or whatever.
(52:21):
I'm like okay, well, maybethose chemicals aren't soaking
into the skin on the clean 15 orwhatever.
I'm like okay, well, those,maybe those chemicals aren't
soaking into the skin, the skinon the clean 15, but they're
still going into the environmentaround those plants.
So if you got a tree from anavocado because avocados are on
the clean 15 list so you don'thave to buy organic, apparently
(52:42):
they still spray chemicals onthem.
Those chemicals still go in theground, infect the, the whole
environment, run downstream.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
So it's what lens you're looking at it from?
Right If you're looking at itfrom an environmental lens, why
would you want anything that issprayed?
Speaker 2 (52:52):
with that, but at the same time, maybe it doesn't
absorb through the skin, butit's going in the ground, into
the water.
What does a tree drink?
A tree drinks water, which goesup the tree into the fruit.
Yeah, so I'm pretty sure you'restill going to be exposed
either way.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
We have for a very long time buying organic
wherever we can 100% and like,won't even buy things that we
need if it's not organic.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, and you have to wash your vegetables and
there's ways to do it.
You can do it baking soda,vinegar, there's special
vegetable washes.
You just want to get that stuffoff of your vegetables and your
fruit Even if it's organic.
Even if it's organic, you stillget to wash it, but especially
if it's not, yeah, likestrawberries, I think, are one
of the worst, yeah, the worstculprits.
(53:38):
Another thing is glyphosate.
Glyphosate roundup is prettymuch sprayed on every single
crop all over the world thesedays, and what glyphosate does
is it kills the plant and theplant is able to produce.
It kind of goes into like apanic mode and it sends all its
(53:58):
energy up to, like the head ofthe wheat, say, so you get,
you'll get more yield.
It tries to survive, right, soit sends all the energy up.
You get more plant or morefruit out of it, and it makes
sure the crops are all dead anddry at the same time.
So when they're harvesting, youdon't have, like, some spots
(54:20):
that are green still so, so ithelps with harvesting, right,
right, but what this does is inhumans, it it blocks the uh,
it's called the shikimatepathway.
So this shikimate pathway iswhat makes amino acids in plants
, fungi and bacteria.
(54:41):
So what is the healthiest soilout there is full of like fungi
and bacteria.
So immediately, you've killedyour soil.
Yeah, you have no biodiversityin your soil.
You have plants that can't um,they're not talking to each
other because there's none ofthat mycelium or the fungi.
So these plants are lessresistant to bugs, so you need
(55:01):
more chemicals to throw on themto help with pests and all this
stuff.
And now we're eating this stuff.
And what is our microbiome?
our whole microbiome is bacteriaright so you're interrupting
our microbiome, which isessential to our whole overall
(55:23):
health, our mental health, it'severything.
So if you look at stats ofpeople that are, like gluten
intolerant, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Why has that become such a thing as?
Speaker 2 (55:35):
soon as people the crop started getting sprayed
more and more and more.
This people, who were Gotproblems.
Yeah, got problems.
People were gluten intolerant,like it's amazing.
You just have to look glutenintolerant like it's amazing.
You just have to look at thenumbers and it's like, okay,
well, obviously this isn't good.
So if you're going to buy anykind of wheat or anything um,
basically anything, everythingthat's that is gmo is usually
(55:59):
sprayed with with glyphosate.
So you buy something that'snon-gmo, it's going to not be
sprayed of glyphosate and youjust won't get that exposure
well, even with you.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
You are sensitive to gluten, you notice it and you
will eat like pizza or pasta ifyou know that the type of wheat
is if it's organic, I can.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
I can tolerate it.
You can imagine that imaginethat, imagine that so another
thing you just gotta look whereyour food food comes from we're
always looking at packagingwhat's sprayed on it.
Yeah, like we just have to turnthings around and educate
ourselves on what ingredientsactually are, because there's a
lot of bs out there.
Yeah, um, okay, can we justtalk about skincare a little bit
(56:38):
more?
Speaker 1 (56:39):
um, okay, well, this is getting long, you guys.
Thanks for listening.
We're at 55 minutes so I'llkeep this part short and sweet.
But I think I was saying Ithink that's one place that
we've sort of gotten like we'vefigured out over the last few
years, or the one place we'vemaybe done it more right than
others is with our personal careproducts.
Just because I started usingArbonne like 19 years ago and
it's always been like such astrict ingredient policy and
(57:00):
that's why I love Europe,because they have the strictest
ingredient policy in the worldLike they ban over 1400
ingredients when you put intoproducts and Arbonne like I'm
just talking specifically withproducts we use in my company
but ban another 600.
And so, like when you know thatyou're using products whether
it's going in your body or onyour body that is, two over 2000
ingredients that are banned youknow that at least that's one
(57:24):
area that I'm doing somethinggood and I don't need to worry
about the chemicals in thoseplaces, right?
So you think about lotions, mymakeup, all my skincare, body,
hair, not a lot of nutrition,all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
Like you can just trust.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
I can just trust the brand because, like right now,
our immunity sticks, for example, around back order because of a
global ingredient shortage,like I'm grateful that they
don't just go find something tofill it in so we can keep
selling it.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yeah, because they look to where things are
actually sourced yeah, 100 andlike even in the protein.
Yeah, a lot of proteins.
Protein powders out there areridiculously high in heavy
metals.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Our bonds tested like almost nothing I think it
tested 100 points or some 100something, I don't know what.
The measurement is below thesafe level when they were just
doing heavy metal testing, ppmsor something like that.
Yeah and yeah.
I mean that part for me is justlike okay, that's one easy,
like checkbox, and so it matters.
(58:25):
You guys like where you canmake the swaps, whether it's
your cutting boards or yourlaundry, soap or not wearing
perfume, picking up the litterwhen you're out for a walk,
swapping what you're putting onand in your body.
It all adds up and compoundsand will make such a difference
and we have to start takingresponsibility for this and when
we have the information, wehave to do better with it.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
And I think our governments ultimately make the
decisions of what gets producedand put out into the world.
So if you can be a voice topush that and make this place a
little bit better, I think it'sour duty.
Like we, we're not separatefrom nature.
We, we are nature, we're fromnature.
(59:01):
Um, humans, we try to separateourselves in so many ways, but
ultimately, the health of theplanet is the health of of us
yeah, 100.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
And this podcast is about, you know, spreading love
and raising the vibration of theplanet, and I think this is a
topic that is, you know, reallyimportant.
And there is another topic thatI will figure out at one point,
but it was even something assimple, as I was getting botox
for 10 years and I heard afriend say on a podcast why
would you be injecting a toxin?
(59:33):
because it is a toxin botulism,yep into the third eye and I'm
all about like energy work andchakras and all this stuff and
I'm like I've never thoughtabout putting into my third eye.
Like why would I want to putpoison in the part of my
forehead that I want to be clearand I've never done it since
and I won't.
I'm committed to you know,aging gracefully.
(59:56):
I'm going to age.
It would be weird for me tohave a grandma who had no
wrinkles and I feel like Botoxand fillers and all the things
they work and they they lookgood until a certain age.
When suddenly you're 35 but youlook 50, it does like a flip
almost, and we're just inundatedin this world that I'm getting
off on a tangent like this isliterally a whole other podcast,
yeah, but like that was evenanother area.
(01:00:17):
It's like we're purposely andpaying top dollar.
I paid 600 for my forehead thelast time I got Botox, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
With fillings too, is another one.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Oh my God, cavities.
Yeah, this could be neverending.
There has to be another episodeto this.
But there's things that we cando, like being mindful when it
comes to what is out ofalignment with you or what feels
like it's in alignment with you.
Yeah, and start making thoseswaps.
We can't do everythingovernight, but you're just more
aware, and if this podcastresonates with you, pass it on,
(01:00:47):
share it, tag us, send us amessage.
We'd love to hear from you.
If there are things that wemaybe missed, bring to our
attention.
We can do another episode.
Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, I'd love to hear when do you guys notice
things that should be, I guess,brought to everyone's attention
in this?
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Because to us, that's all about how we can raise the
vibration of the planet is bybringing this up to our
awareness.
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, it's such a low vibe thing, but being unaware
of it will make you lower vibe,literally yeah, literally yeah.
So let's rid ourselves of it asmuch as we can.
Let's spread this informationto other people so we can help
everyone and help the planet.
Just be a little bit cleaner.
(01:01:30):
Be a little bit cleaner.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Thanks for listening, guys.
We're awesome.
I mean, you missed us for acouple months, but here we are
back with a whole hour of Talksand Talk.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
We got another one coming up soon.
Yeah, Thanks for listening.
You guys Appreciate you guys.
Stay awesome.
you're listening to the love movement with your
hosts britney and brian johnston.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're starting a movement centered around love to
help raise the vibration ofthis beautiful planet.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
If that's your vibe, hang out with us as we chat
about many topics all centeredaround three main pillars Loving
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So if you're ready, let's jumpin.
Well, hello everybody.
Welcome to our first episode of2025, episode 13.
I think we were keeping peopleon their toes like wondering if
(00:41):
we were doing a podcast thisyear.
What do you?
think we've been talking aboutdoing an episode for the longest
time and we're finally here andit's finally happening,
recording another one, one I'vebeen wanting to do for a really
long time yep, I think ourexcuse is really um, we have a
toddler, so there's like limitedamounts of time to do it, and
(01:03):
he was off for two weeks duringChristmas and then we were on
vacation in Hawaii, so you knowwhat it's like busy.
All of a sudden, two monthspass and here we are, but we
hope to deliver some goodinterviews and episodes as the
year goes on.
So we thought we would kick offepisode 13, our first one of
the year, with a topic, likeBrian said, he wants to talk
(01:24):
about and has wanted to talkabout for a long time, one that
I think will be a hot topic fora lot of people, and it's on
toxins.
We have another word for thatin our house.
What is it?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
you'll hear us talk about chemical shit storms all
the time.
It's like, oh, you know, wesmell something, some kind of
fake fragrance, like oh yeah,chemical shit storm.
Or looking at some food, likeoh yeah, chemical shit storm.
Everything is always chemicalshit storm, because that is,
unfortunately, the world we livein these days.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it's kind of all around us.
Why don't you ask the questionyou wanted to ask the audience?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah.
So what is something thateverybody wants to avoid at all
cost?
Uh, we eat it every day.
We don't always know it's there, but we willingly pay for it,
and it's toxins in all formsthat's crazy and this is a big
one.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Um, we'll link this in the show notes, but one
really good episode is by stevenbartlett, diary of ceo.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
He had a great interview on toxins yeah and
yeah, we'll link that for sure.
And then the doctor uh, I'mgoing to talk about her as well.
That, uh, he interviewed that,he interviewed her.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Her content's great so we're going to talk just
about a whole bunch of things onthis topic.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So, yeah, I started making some notes and then my
notes started expanding and allof a sudden I have notes within
notes, within tiny notes, andit's literally all over the
place.
There's so much stuff to talkabout here well, and since we
were going to record this,because we tried about four
times yeah, all these lifethings kept happening and I was
like oh, that can go on thepodcast yeah, and this is
(03:04):
something that's been on myradar I honestly since for for
years, like decades probably andwhen we talked about doing this
podcast, you said, like we haveto do this episode yeah, and
I'm what?
so what I want to do is I wantto just kind of bring people's
attention to places in your lifewhere you're exposed to toxins
(03:25):
that you might not know, andjust like little little tricks
how to avoid them, and then likewhat kind of harm they can be
doing to you, and just helpingpeople make the connection,
because I think we're in a worldthat's we're just sort of
unaware and it's so prevalentthat it's just gonna you can't
unhear this information.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So we're going to of unaware and it's so prevalent
that it's just gonna you can'tunhear this information.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
so we're gonna apologize in advance, but this
is for our own health andbenefit yeah, and, like me, I'm
a very sciencey guy, so I'malways reading articles about
stuff, like all the time, andI've come across this stuff and
I'm just like oh yeah, thisstuff's common sense, like
everyone knows this stuff.
And then I tell britney she'slike no, that's not common sense
.
No, like Everyone knows thisstuff.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And then I tell Brittany she's like no, that's
not common sense.
No, like literally today, liketalking about eating snow.
It's snowing on the island.
It doesn't ever.
It's been the first two daysit's snowed here.
And you see kids just likeeating snow, and I do.
You did you eat snow as a kid?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I ate snow as a kid, but it's very different than it
was, than it is today.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, cause you were just like he's at Dorset.
I'm like, don't eat that.
And then he brought a snowballin, put it in a in a bowl.
We watched it melt and it isactually disturbing what is in
that snow.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, so, speaking of that, the first thing I want to
talk about is actuallymicroplastics.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Okay, so there we go.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So microplastics, um, basically, it's plastic that
has been broken down into little, tiny pits, smaller than five
millimeters, and it's ineverything.
We ingest it, we inhale it.
Um, it's in the water, it's inthe soil, it gets in our food,
it's, it touches our food.
Um, in my plastic, like plastic, plastic is in everything.
(05:01):
It's like essential part of ourlife, right?
Um?
So we eat about a credit card'sworth of plastic every week,
every week, every week.
Okay, that is disturbing.
So what is that doing to us, asyou know, humans?
But, on the other hand, it'slike, with all this stuff,
(05:22):
everything I'm going to talkabout, it's also we're forcing
all of nature to be impactedfrom it too.
So, every animal that's outthere, they drink unfiltered
water, you know.
They're eating plants that are,you know, in ground.
That's toxic, that's beencontaminated, and this stuff is
every, everywhere, right?
So with plastics, um, so what'sin plastics?
(05:45):
There's phthalates, which islike an endocrine disruptor, uh,
bpas, bisphenols, there's heavymetals, and pfast or pfas, and
like tons and tons and tons.
The list goes on and on and on.
And well, like most plasticsthat, the plastics that were
first introduced in the 50s,they're still on the planet
today.
Wow, and I'm guessing thatthose plastics will be on the
(06:09):
planet long after humans have.
You know, we've killedourselves off from our stupidity
, from how we treat the planetBecause, like some of these
plastics, they you know, they'regoing to take over 400 years to
break down.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So when plastics were invented, was this not known
information?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes, it was all a big lie.
So the thing that really bugsme about plastics everything
that's you know, big pharma, bigoil, big everything, everything
that has a lot of money to bemade there's no integrity.
They know they have informationbut they go around that
information to make profits andit's always profits over people,
over planet, over everything.
And there's real worldconsequences for everything that
we do and people just they.
(06:57):
They don't connect those linksTotally.
So hopefully I'm going to, I'mgoing to connect some of that
here today.
So with like, withmicroplastics, where the most of
them end up is in the ocean.
So the ocean is complete.
You can't go anywhere on theplanet and get a ocean sample
without having plastic in it.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That is really sad.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Like we're talking the farthest reaches of the
Arctic, the Antarctic.
There's plastics everywhere.
So 75% of that plastic isactually from tires, tires From
tires.
Okay.
So here in British Columbia afew years ago there was a study.
They had a massive die-off ofsalmon and the salmon all died
(07:41):
in the stream right after arainfall, after there'd been a
huge drought.
So tire pit bits and stuffaccumulated on the roadsides
near the.
The river finally rained,washed everything in the river.
Massive amounts of plastic andall those chemicals that go with
it kill all the fish.
(08:01):
So that's when they firststarted linking oh linking the
stuff with tires.
So yeah, tires um clothes.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So I've been hearing a lot about this lately yeah,
everything with clothes.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So everything, every piece of clothing.
That's not a natural like alinen yeah, like cotton, wool,
you know everything, likewhatever our our shirts made of.
They're polyester, everythingright.
There's some kind of plastic,um.
Every time you wash that, itbreaks down a little tiny pieces
and it goes into the sewagetreatment plant and ultimately
(08:35):
gets pumped into a river or anocean or wherever right lakes
like it's.
That's where they end up, andyou can get filters for your uh
washing machine that catch mostof that, which is kind of cool.
Yeah, clean them out weekly, soit'll stop those.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Come with them normally no, but they should
yeah they definitely should.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Um so, yeah, there's lint.
Um, another thing with lintlike when you do a load of
laundry, you put that stuff inthe dryer, all your clothes is
tumbling together and that makeslint and you get in your dryer
trap, right, yeah Well,everything the dryer chap
doesn't catch goes outside andevery single house is emitting
microplastics.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So, every single house that has a dryer is
putting microplastics in theenvironment at where they live
it's like everything that madebeing a human in this day and
age easier has is just reallydestroying it, because back in
the day you just hang it on theline yeah, so trying to hang dry
(09:43):
, I guess any of any of your gymclothes or anything that's not
a natural fiber would eliminatea lot of that, because it's all
rubbing together right, yeah,well, I think about when I dry,
like I am so quick when I takeout the lint from the trap and I
just throw it in the garbageand there's like this kind of
like cloud of stuff and I'msitting there probably breathing
(10:03):
it in, not even thinking.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That was actually.
My next point is talking aboutthat exact thing.
I don't know what's on his.
So when I, when I take that out, I I take a big breath, I take
it out.
I try to take it out inside thedryer I know, and then I put it
I put it in the in the garbage,close it and then, once I get
away from the area, I'mbreathing again.
I'm like that sounds silly, butyou're inhaling the tiniest
(10:28):
bits of fibers you couldpossibly have right there at the
site and that's an exposureright okay, we're all holding
our breath.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm doing the lint trap.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's note to self yeah, and people don't think
about this stuff, but it's likeI don't know, I'm weird like
that.
I think about the weirdestlittle things.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's why we're sharing it with people.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, so I'm just sharing this with people.
Fishing nets are anothermassive contributor.
A lot of fishermen, oncethey're done or a net breaks,
they just toss it in the oceanand then obviously it kills
animals all over the place.
Things get tangled, but asthose break down, it, uh, just
(11:08):
creates more plastic in theocean.
Um, so the plastic is alsogetting in the fish that we eat.
So you, any wild caught fishnow, or pretty much any fish you
can go and you know, dissect itand you'll find plastic in in
the meat is there anywhere thatthere isn't plastic?
in rocks that were formedbillions of years ago.
That's pretty much it.
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Like how do we fix this?
So, speaking of that, so we'rein the age called the
Anthropocene, so that's like oneof the eras, right?
So Anthropocene is here.
I got a little thing here.
It's a period in Earth'shistory when humans have had a
significant impact on the planet, and some examples are climate
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change, pollution, biodiversityloss and the chemical
composition of, like the oil orthe soils, oceans, in the
atmosphere.
So we've impacted the planet onsuch a scale now that we're
living in a different, completeera oh my gosh, I love that for
us yeah, and there's actually amovie called anthropocene uh,
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from 2018.
I remember watching it.
Back then I was like, oh my god, this is it's it's.
It's sad and bleak.
Is is what it is, but it's areality that we live in now,
unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So does that circle back to the snow?
Because that's coming out ofthe atmosphere.
You think it's clean.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So, yeah, kids, today it snowed here today.
Kids are eating snow and I'mjust like, no, do not eat the
snow, you don't know what's init.
So Marty took some snow hometoday, we put it in a bowl,
melted it.
And snow home today.
We put it in a bowl, melted itand in this one snowball he
grabbed beside the street.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The amount of microplastics in there and it
appeared to look like a fluffy,clean piece of snow yeah,
there's hundreds, hundreds ofpieces of plastic in there and
it's just there's like a cup ofit in a bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So then I went to the back deck and I picked a
pristine one that's never beentouched by anything, and it was
a lot, but there was stillplastic in it.
So there's plastic in rain,there's plastic in snow, every
reach of the planet, like onland even so I talked about like
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Antarctic and stuff and theoceans but on land, a pristine
lake that's untouched by mansomewhere has plastic in it
because it's in the rain oh mygod, we can't escape it you
really can't escape it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
All we can do is do our best to avoid it there's one
thing in our house that I knowdrives you the craziest,
something that I still use, andI know I got to get rid of them.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
uh, I should know this.
I don't know what all themicrofiber?
Oh right yes, microfiber rags.
Okay, this is, this is a bigone.
So, britney years ago we'retalking like 15 years ago and we
bought all these microfiberrags and we're using them and
everything face cloths and facecleaning and glass cleaning rags
exactly and cloths we'rewashing, we're washing our
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dishes with them.
We're, you know, drying offfruit with them.
And one day, um, I cleaned myglasses with them and I looked
at my glass.
I'm like what the heck is allover my glasses?
And it was like a light bulbmoment.
I looked and it was my glasseswere completely full of
microfibers off these cloths andI was like, oh my God, I wash
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my apples with these stupidthings, dry them.
Every time I have an apple, Iwash my apple and I dry it, so
I'm putting microplastics onthem before you eat it, exactly.
So there's another thing avoidjust microfiber.
Cloths are microplastic makingmachines.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's funny because the marketing is like these are
micro fiber cloths, they're sogreat for you, and like if
you're a girl and you're usingthese for makeup removal, it
works.
Like they're nice.
They're not.
They don't tug and pull at yourskin.
But like what should we beusing?
Cotton, cotton uh bamboo like,or just good products that kind
of melt your makeup off, which Iuse now, but it's just, it's
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inferior and you really can'tescape it anywhere um what about
in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
what are things that we did get rid of a long time
ago, but a lot of people usethese cutting boards, huge we
were at a friend's house earlierand they're probably listening
to this, but I seen they wereusing a plastic cutting board
and I said I just blame thecentury and I'll like you gotta
throw that in the garbage rightnow, like do not cut anything
else on that.
And you look at it and it's allchewed up and it's you know
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from like the cut marks andusing an iphone, it's not flat
anymore.
It's got dips in it.
I'm like you've eaten all thatplastic.
Yeah, it's all.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You need two credit cards this week.
Yeah, exactly oh, so get rid ofthat and something else that if
you're a mom and you have likeyour little toddler plates brian
is always on me about I am notallowed to cut anything on a
plastic plate.
First you cut it on a regularplate or a wooden cutting
cutting board or whatever andthen put it on the kid plate.
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And lots of times I'll go to myfriends houses or people's
places and I'll see like theirkids' plastic plates and just
cut marks every which way.
Again, we're feeding our kidsplastic but like I'm telling you
, no one's doing this on purpose.
We're not like oh, let's justadd microplastic to the meal.
People don't understand howit's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And another example salt shaker.
Remember that.
Oh my God, I forgot about thatone.
Oh my gosh this is over a yearago when, before we stopped
drinking, I was makingmargaritas and I had the salt
grinder and I was grinding somesalt on a plate and I'm like why
is there all this?
What's all this black stuff inthere?
And I look really closely andit was black plastic out of the
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grinder.
So as you turn the salt, it wastaking plastic and grinding it
up inside and spitting it outthe bottom we can't help
ourselves.
It's so frustrating and youcan't use sea salt.
So if you're, if you're buyingsalt, don't buy sea salt,
because sea salt automaticallyhas plastic in it, because all
the plastic in the ocean youhave to buy himalayan, like pink
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salt or a salt that comes froma rock that's been in like a
celtic salt, yeah, some kind ofsalt that's been in rock form
before humans were here, like ahimalayan salt is a great, oh,
my goodness, okay people areprobably gonna need to take
notes about this, or they'regonna stop listening because
they can't handle how it's justruining their lives at this
point well, you just got to beaware of it and stop doing it,
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because, like humans are goingto pay for this, and like we
already are we already are.
I mean, you can't deny thatwe're sicker than we've ever
been yeah, well, and where?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
where else did microplastics show up?
Like weren't you saying at onepoint, like a fetus?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
it was in like fetuses oh it's in every organ
in our body.
It's in my balls, it's in your,it's in your skin, it's in,
it's in everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's in every part of your body and this is, like I
would say, for women too, or mentoo, but like major hormone
disrupting huge hormonedisrupting um it's been.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
They found it in placentas.
Now they've pretty much.
They've pretty much found inevery single placenta that
they've tested in the last fewyears.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Glad I did placenta encapsulation and also ate that
yeah, recycled plastics, oh myGod.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But, they're also finding it in the fetus and
they're finding it in people'sbrains, so it's going past the
blood brain barrier.
It's like what?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Who invented plastic?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't know that's.
You need a time machine.
I mean, there's been a lot ofbenefits from plastic, but we're
not doing ourselves any favors.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
No, and I think a lot of people that are just like
you know, kind of turn theirnose up to this stuff will
likely, a, they're not listeningto this, but b you know,
they're like we couldn't livewithout plastic yeah, um, a lot
of things that make plastic soft, like the bpas and stuff like
that are the hormone disruptor,so like vinyl is a bad one, uh,
shower curtains or another badone like and can we talk for a
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minute about um black plastic?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
oh, black plastic.
Yeah, so a lot of black plasticis made from recycled
electronics.
You Electronics are naturallyfull of like flame retardants,
right Like PFAs and stuff likethat.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So where's black plastics, like, I think, every
time you buy like a chicken atthe store, like those chickens,
like the cooked chickens?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, cooked chicken, that's in like a black thing or
takeout dishes from like anyrestaurant.
Yeah, those are all blackplastic.
And then what do you do withthe food?
You put the black plastic inthe freaking microwave and make
your make it worse.
Well, that's another thing I'mgoing to get to.
Um, but like uh, utensils for,you know, making soup, and like
you know, the black kitchenutensils, oh, my god, we have
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some of those.
Oh no, I got rid of a lot ofthem, but we still have a couple
, but I don't use them anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I just, but we shouldn have a couple.
But I don't use them anymore, Ijust use, but we shouldn't be
using them.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Just use wood ones.
Okay, use wood.
Um, bamboo is actually probablymy favorite thing to use in the
kitchen now.
Wow, anything else on blackplastic, um well, plastic in
general.
Don't heat it up.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah.
Cause you're just the chemicalsin it are just leing more into.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I've seen at the start of the day.
It was like a bag of broccoli.
Oh, just throw it in themicrowave, steam ready.
I'm like no.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I mean we've known this for years, Like I.
I mean we've been together for25 years and I remember when we
were in high school, like youyelling at your mom about like
take that, stupid, you know theplastic thing over you put over
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the food in the microwave, thatoff.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
why is and?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I remember being a kid growing up putting that over
think oh, I'm not gettingsplatter all over my microwave.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, we're putting we're killing ourselves with
plastic saran wrap on your stuffand heating.
Oh my gosh, I do remember that.
Never, ever, ever, heat plasticup, ever, ever, okay, when it's
touching your food because it'sinstantly releasing
microplastics and all the toxinsalong with it directly into
your food.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Okay, um cups starbucks go to timmy's oh, this
is where brian has.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Really, I'm gonna, you're not gonna unhear this,
you guys, you're not gonnaunhear this ever have you ever
gone a day in like your life, inthe last you know, 10, 15 years
, without seeing somebodyholding a?
Um disposable cup from like timhortons or starbucks or a
coffee shop and they're justsipping it and blah, blah, blah.
So it's a paper cup but it'slined with plastic.
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What happens when you put heaton plastic is it releases all
those chemicals.
So one cup of coffee or onelittle thing of coffee or tea or
whatever, when you put thehottest liquid in possible, yeah
, like we're talking tens ofthousands of bits of
microplastic right there.
So every day you're plastic,microplastic maxing on every
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single cup that you have microdosing microplastic yep, so you
know I purposely microdosemushrooms.
But every day we unintentionallyyeah, micro microdose plastic
and a bunch of other chemicals.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I'm not really a Starbucks drinker, but when I'm
at an airport I tend to get oneand I don't enjoy it anymore
because all I think about isthat.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
So just get yourself like a stainless steel go cup, a
Yeti kind of thing, and justgive them that.
Will they do that?
Yeah, a lot of places will theyshould.
I don't see why not.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, Well, and then it helps with, like, the litter
and all the things.
Because I just think of, likeme and Marty went for a walk a
couple weeks ago and I had acouple of dog bags.
Obviously, if the dogs went,number two and he just started
picking up garbage on the groundI mean he's three but he sees
you do taught, and he alwayssees you picking up garbage,
leaving things better than youfound it.
So he's like mommy, garbage,garbage.
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And we had an entire dog bagfull of garbage after walking
like four blocks in a very niceneighborhood and you know like
most of that bag was full ofplastic Cups that people just
throw on the street.
First of all, littering.
Why are we littering?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Come on, yeah, we got to teach our kids better.
We have to teach our kidsbetter, like we've taught Marty.
Marty knows what's good and bad.
Now he's like that's not goodfor the earth, right, like that
hurts the earth.
I'm like, yeah, it doesn't justhurt the earth, it hurts
everybody, because a lot ofplaces, but what about the dog
bag?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well, it's plastic, yes, and they say it's
biodegradable, but most of themreally aren't.
But some people take their dogbag, they go in the woods and
then they put their poop in abag and then they just throw the
bag in the woods.
I'm like, well, what was thepoint of that?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Is that why people do it?
Because they think it's justgoing to be biodegradable.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yes, but yeah, it just doesn't make any sense, so
just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I should be taking what a paper bag to pick up my
garbage?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No, You're going to have to use the plastic bag in
that case.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I guess, yeah, I'm picking up more plastic than I'm
throwing out.
But anyways.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So just leave everywhere better than you found
it.
Pick up plastic.
It's Brian's golden rule Leaveeverything and everyone better
than you found it Like when wewent to rica, I went for a hike
up the beach and I purposelybrought bags with me, like big
garbage bags, because I knew Iwas going to find plastic on the
beach.
I could have brought back like10 giant garbage bags for
plastic easy.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I brought back as much as I possibly could well
then, we were just in hawaii andyou were out just swimming in
the water and you kept bringingall the stuff you're finding.
Oh, yeah, we'll post pictureson our instagram and keep it in
our highlights so you guys cansee it.
But yeah, it's like why is thisstuff just in beautiful nature,
in the most beautiful?
It doesn't belong.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
No we just have to be better stewards, and you know
this is a challenge I'm going toput out to everyone that's
listening.
Is you find plastic?
Just pick it up pick it up yeah, just be your role model for
everyone around you.
Just be that person, right?
That's good, good advice.
Uh, remember, we've been making.
I was making ghee the other day.
Oh my gosh, you guys, we makeghee.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
We've been making this for a long time.
I don't know what ghee is.
It's like clarified butter yeah, so you heat it up takes out
most of the micro or most of thedairy, yeah, milk solids and,
yeah, you literally heat up thisbutter on the stove until it
becomes clarified and to get theghee to separate the milk
solids from the liquid gold youput it through.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
What is it called?
Well, it's a nut milk bag, soit's a really fine bag, like a
cheesecloth right, and I'mpouring it through.
I'm like holy shit, this bag isplastic it's plastic.
I'm like, oh my god.
So now I'm maxing out myplastic dose on my ghee every
day.
So now, how do we make ghee?
Make ghee.
We have to get a natural fiberone.
Oh my gosh.
So another thing for us to do.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's like where in your day can you see that you're
unintentionally eatingmicroplastic?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
All right, while we're talking about bags, let's
talk about tea bags.
So tea bags are usually made ofsome of them are made of like a
type of paper, but a lot ofthem are made of actual plastic.
So when you take your hotteabag and you put it in your or
your teabag and you put it inyour hot water, instantly you
have microplastic soup.
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So you need to look for teabagsthat are paper.
Or you can take like loose teaor open up a plastic tea bag and
and put it in one of thoselittle I don't like a little
stainless thing, thing orsomething that just goes into
your, into your cup, so you cansoak it, soak the tea that way,
instead of exposing yourself tothe plastic in the bag.
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Uh, okay, another thing carpets,carpets.
Every carpet is made ofmicroplastics.
Okay, so they get in the air.
So our air inside our house, um, especially if you have like
moving air, like a furnace orsome kind of fan system, it's
blowing it around all the time.
I see it on our stove everymorning right when I wake up.
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And well, the kitchen utensils,you know.
And well, the kitchen utensils,you know.
Some people grab the kitchenutensils that it's beside the
stove just sitting out therelike your big spoons and all
that, and those grab it, and youknow.
Next, time you cook something,use it.
Well, I looked at them one day.
I'm like this is covered inplastics, microplastics.
So you rinse off that stuff,anything that's out that can get
plastic on it.
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It's going to touch food.
Rinse it off, yeah, please.
But carpets yeah, carpets aremicroplastics.
Carpets are full of all kindsof chemicals, fire retardants
like stain-resistant chemicals,and yeah, it gets in the air.
We breathe it in.
So vacuum more as much as youcan.
I usually vacuum every two daysat least.
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Yeah, you can Like.
I usually vacuum every two daysat least, yeah you do.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
We've always been on the carpets, you know get the
corners.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
And if you've got kids babies especially crawling
on the floor like their nose isright there sucking that stuff
up.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Or would you just say don't have carpets?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, I don't know.
Carpets are nice, but you canget natural fiber carpets too.
Okay, just pay a fortune forthem, but they're available.
Get a HEPA filter.
Is that what we have?
We have one in both our rooms.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So we can link our bedrooms.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, marty's bedroom , our bedroom.
We have HEPA filters and theyjust run all the time.
It catches insane amounts ofstuff.
So another thing right there um, floss, uh well, I'm going to
talk about that one when I talkabout pfas a little bit more, um
.
But let's talk about throughput.
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No one knows what throughput is.
What is that?
Throughput is a term for whenyou buy something at the store,
it's the part of the item thatyou buy that is destined for the
trash.
It's all the packaging.
So sometimes you'll go and buysomething and there's more
packaging than product.
Actually, quite often, Right.
(28:20):
We ought to make everything lookso amazing in this packaging
and everything's destined forthe landfill.
What's an example?
Everything you go and buyrazors, you go and buy this
mouse that I got for thelandfill.
What's like an example?
Everything you go and buyrazors, you go and buy like this
mouse that I got for thecomputer.
Like everything, everythingcomes in plastic.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
But I even think one simple thing that I was thinking
is silly is toilet paper.
Oh, toilet paper, likeindividually wrapped.
Oh yeah, toilet paper, justripping up all the plastic.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You go to Costco and they got plastic encased and
then plastic encased again onthe inside.
It's literally why you don'tbuy it there.
We like to pay money for ournice toilet paper yeah, we
actually have been using abamboo toilet paper and it's
really nice actually probablythe nicest I've ever used and
we're not cutting down trees andbamboo grows like crazy.
Yeah, it's very sustainable.
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So, and that's not individuallywrapped and that.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
In plastic.
Okay, that's something to thinkabout.
What's it called Throughput?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Throughput.
So that's a thing that we canthink about in our chain of
consumerism on how we get stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So I know one thing when I was doing little yogurts
I thought, well, this would benice for Marty, just little
yogurts.
And you're no, it's like ahundred million little pieces of
plastic.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
buy the jug of yogurt yeah, and you know that
yogurt's touching food or likecheese like why cheese drinks or
that, uh any, all that food issorry, is touching the plastic
well, yeah, that's another thing.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
But yeah, you know, like cheese strings, like just
buy a block of cheese yeah, yeah, like think about the plastic
the packaging of things.
That's really a good I.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean, just look and be a little bit mindful in a
week's time as you're throwingstuff in a garbage can how much
plastic there is and you're besurprised.
Yeah, I wish I had that stat ofhow much plastic people use
every year.
It's mind-boggling like ourworld is now plastic.
There's plastic fossils now onbeaches that have melted from
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the sun and they've just becomeone with the earth because
they've just kind of melted intothe earth.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Something else with plastic, whenever, if you ever
do they do this anymore withcans, Like where they have, like
you have to take the cans offthat little six ring can thing.
You know what I'm talking about, oh yeah, the little holder for
a six pack and you you'd alwayssay, cut that before you throw
it in the garbage, because ifnot it's going to end up and
it's going to like kill a turtlewell, I could, and I've seen it
but things like that, like Ididn't even think of that.
I mean, I think of it all thetime now, whenever there's like
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a round well, it's kind of likea little danny fishing net yeah,
think about it.
Right, I also got on plasticbecause it feels like a never
ending list.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Oh man, I know we're going to miss stuff on that, but
it's, I guess it's justeverywhere and we don't want it.
We don't want to be around it.
Yeah, we want to try to avoidit as much as possible and
hopefully what I some of thethings I just talked about will,
will help you do that.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Well, a couple of things, I guess, that have
happened since we were going torecord this episode and then
haven't, hadn't recorded.
It was our son was pretendingto be a puppy and he was had a
little stuffy like in his mouth,like a little um, what are
those called?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Like the gingerbread man thing.
Yeah, it was like a fleece,like a jelly cat type thing.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
And I didn't think anything.
I just thought, oh fun, he'splaying like being a puppy and
there's a thing in his mouth andhe's going around and barking
and you're like, get that out ofyour mouth.
And I was like, brian, it'sfine.
And you're like he's literallyeating plastic, he's sucking on
this stuffy and I think like howmany kids suck on stuffies?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, they're eating plastic right there.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So there's one weird thing.
And then we had neighbors we'llmove a house for sale beside us
and these people rolled up andBrian's like, oh great turf.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh yes, the neighbors putting in fake grass.
Fake grass is the biggest BSthing I've ever seen.
First off, you're taking awayall biodiversity.
Nothing's going to come upthrough the ground.
Nothing's going to go from thetop side into the ground.
You're creating microplasticsbecause now that's, every time
the sun hits it, it's breakingit down.
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Every time it rains, it'sbreaking it down, it's breaking
it into the soil, it's washingoff into wherever, just getting
in the environment.
It should be like, not allowed.
It should be completely illegal.
It's legal.
Littering is what it is.
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And cigarette butts.
Sorry for everybody, Okaycigarette butts.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
One cigarette butt is hundreds of thousands of
microplastics, because it'sliterally made of microplastics.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
There's one thing we have a little bit of tolerance
for, it's A smoking and Bthrowing your butts on the
ground.
Yeah, so if that's you and ifyou're smoking, just don't put
them on the ground, Just don'tsmoke, just don't put them on
the ground, just don't smoke.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Well, also that this is your year.
Don't love yourself a littlemore, love the planet a little
more.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's crazy, though that's a lot of microplastics in
that.
I keep coming back like this isa lot.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
This could be a microplastics, oh my god, okay,
well, let's talk about toxinsnext okay, part two, I'll try to
make this quick, so let's ornot.
Toxins, uh, pfas or pfas, whichare forever chemicals, so
they're a chemical bond thatjust never breaks down.
Okay, so this is per andpolyfluoroalkaline substances.
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There's over four.
There's almost 5 000 differentsubstances of these and they are
in every single person on theplanet's blood for one.
They, uh.
What do they do here?
They cause cancer.
They are hormone disrupting.
Uh, again, uh, liver, thyroidissues, reproductive issues on a
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massive scale, so like theyreally mess with fetal
development.
When they were making thischemical, they told every female
on the line, uh, that theycouldn't be there anymore, but
they didn't give them a reasonwhy.
Oh my, they knew about this,but they allowed it to go
forward.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
So would this be contributing to like issues that
kids have when they're born, orwould it contribute to abortion
or like not abortion?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Miscarriages, Miscarriages.
I mean all this stuff adds upto a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And I think miscarriages too, and not that
we make any sort of claims orgive a stat, but like I don't
know if people just talk aboutit more, or was it always this
common, because I feel like it'svery common.
I don't know the stat on it,but like it makes you wonder,
like all of this has to beconnected, I mean when a baby or
someone miscarries that baby,just it's not developing because
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it's not an environment that'sperfect for it.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, so it's.
It doesn't progress.
Yeah, sadly, and all this stuffis a contributor that's right,
and it's little by little, bylittle, microdosing all these
things by a million cuts.
That's a hundred percent andit's.
It's so sad.
Um, so yeah, you'll find thisstuff in firefighting foam,
non-stick cookware like get ridof anything, t-fal, especially
(34:57):
like you scratch.
One little tiny scratch is like90 000 particles or something
like that of that's on thepodcast with yeah, it's it's
crazy, um, so we we've gone toum, always pan by our place.
Yeah, that's the one we're usingnow.
So they have a non-stick,non-toxic ceramic coating, which
(35:18):
is really great.
Um, any, a lot of packaging.
Takeout foods again.
So you get that, you knowcardboard thing with the the
liner inside.
Those are full of pfas, right,uh, straws, you get paper straws
.
Paper straws in the middle,pfas plastic in the middle of
paper straws.
Yes, so, so anything waterresistant, water resistant
(35:40):
fabrics you think raincoats umyour carpets, couches, uh,
anything water resistant uh ispfas umain resistant fabrics
like carpets, cleaning products,personal care products like
stuff we're meant to putdirectly on our body.
Yeah, and this stuff is insanelytoxic.
You guys like insanely toxicBand-Aids, so you got an open
(36:04):
cut with a direct path into yourbloodstream and there's pfas in
the band-aid that goes on yourcuff so what do you do instead
of a band-aid like what is theanswer here?
There are companies that arepfa free that you can get it's
mad, this is maddening.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, let's talking about?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
uh, nail polish.
It's a nail polish, it's an eyemakeup.
This is the dental fussingyou're talking about.
So we've been using this, uh,glide floss like six or ten pack
from costco.
Yeah like works really good.
And then one day I'm looking atthis, I'm like this looks like
teflon tape that you use whenyou're doing plumbing right, and
(36:46):
so then we've seen a thing allabout it and it's literally full
of pfa.
So you're putting these pfasdirectly in your mouth, on your
gums, and it's going directly inyour bloodstream, micro dosing
it every single day.
So we got a new floss recentlythat's uh made.
What is it?
Charcoal bamboo and there's avegan wax on it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
It's been amazing, and our dental hygienist, she
got it, she got it she loves itand she has, she loves it Makes
us think too about like I don'tknow if you have an answer about
this, but toothbrush bristles.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, like those are microplastics too, but they
don't really break down enoughto do anything.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
But we're all throwing out heads.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Oh, the heads yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Like we have electric toothbrushes and we're always
replacing the heads, or you'rehaving a toothbrush and you're
throwing the toothbrushes out.
Like think of everybody in theworld brushing their teeth and
how many toothbrushes in a life.
Do you have A?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
lot.
Like it's stuff like that.
So I recently found areplacement head for our Oral-B
electric toothbrush yeah, areplacement head for our Oral-B
electric toothbrush that's madeof bamboo and the bristles are
plant-based Interesting, and allbiodegrades, okay.
So that's what we're going tobe getting next, okay, another
place you'll find PFAs ismicrowave popcorn bags.
So, they're in there.
(38:05):
Plus, you're heating them up,which releases them more.
Now you have a toxic bowl ofpopcorn.
Awesome, those Ziploc plasticbags that you put food in.
There's traces of PFAs in thereBottled water.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Oh, you ruined bottled water for me.
You know the health is not tolike.
I need bottled water.
You go on a trip, I needbottled water.
It's like terrible, yeah.
So the bottled water also hasthe microplastics in it
Ridiculous amount ofmicroplastics in the bottled
water also has the microplasticsin it.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Ridiculous amount of microplastics in the bottled
water.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
So put your bottled water in glass or stainless
steel so when we travel, wealways just bring lots of
bottles um plastic.
Well, not glass, that's heavy,but like stainless steel, is
usually what we have, and youjust always refill them at the.
Well, sometimes you like find ahose behind the.
How do you explain?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
it.
The ice machine?
Yeah, yeah, sometimes I findlike filtered water.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, sometimes ice machines at hotels have a filter
in the back and you canactually there's a little
offshoot on it and you can getwater directly to that and I
think hotels are getting smarter, because we were just at the
hyatt in maui and they had likea station to fill up with water,
so so you just go and you'dalways take all of your bottles
fill them with water.
So we really avoided allbottled water.
Yeah, but that's like a goalnow is to avoid bottled water.
Or I go to the airport.
(39:16):
I'm like I'm just going to grabsome you know, expensive ass
bottled water and you're likehow do you like?
Sun will also also also leachmicroplastics.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
so there's another one there yeah, so just, I don't
know, this is a hard one.
They're starting to phase this,this stuff, out in places, but
(39:43):
when it's all phased out, it'sstill going to be in our system
and on the planet for for ages.
Uh, so, two documentaries ortwo films that people should
watch on this.
There's a documentary calledthe devil, we know, and that
one's all about, uh well, Ithink both these shows are about
the same thing.
Um, it's all about dupont andkind of what happened at their
(40:03):
main plant and when, when theywere making pfas.
And then there's a movie calleddark waters, and if you want to
know the truth about this andhow shady and corrupt large
companies are like there's,think about this.
There's people who made thesedecisions to move forward with
(40:23):
this stuff, knowing how bad itwas, but they can hide behind a
corporation and they'reprotected like the people are
protected.
People made these decisions todo this, yeah, knowing like no,
integrity no it's, it's horrible, all right.
Anything else that you want toadd for toxins?
No, I feel like for pfas.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
The only place that we've maybe had it sort of what
figured out is our personal hairproducts.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Do you feel Like when I think that's?
You know, when I started usingArbonne products, like 19 years
ago, I remember not having, Imean, and I was like 20, but I
remember thinking I neverconnected the dots about what I
put on my skin goes into my body, like I didn't even make that
connection.
I know that might sound sillybecause you're listening.
You're like well, duh, but somepeople might not even realize
(41:12):
that, like the lotions you uselike perfume.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, like VOCs.
So let me talk about that.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Okay, so that's the next section VOCs.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, let's talk about VOCs.
So VOCs are volatile organiccompounds, so it's basically
everything that has a smell,whether it's natural, from, like
you know, a tree, like thatnice pine smell when you go in
the forest, or a flower, oreverything man-made that has a
smell.
The difference is the man-madeones are toxic, the other ones
are fine.
(41:40):
Yeah, for the most part.
So you want to have noteverything natural?
Um, so vocs will.
Um, yeah, there's the.
Basically vocs are off-gassing.
So it's like oh, I love thatnew car smell, so you love
off-gassing chemicals I used toalways say that so everything
that has a smell.
(42:01):
Um, like when you, you know,start up a computer and computer
gets hot, you know, sometimesthat has a smell, right yeah
everything has a smell.
Right yeah, Everything has asmell.
It's in fuels, paints,basically everything that's
petrochemical based Cleaningsupplies, laundry detergents.
Oh, that's great.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
God, yes, all this stuff.
So, oh man, there's so manythings to talk about here too.
Let's talk about laundrydetergents here.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Quick Chemical shitstorm, that's a big chemical
shit storm.
Yeah, just walking outside andyou can just smell people doing
laundry like you shouldn't smellthat yeah, so if you smell
someone's laundry, it's chemicalshit, you're posing yourself to
vocs.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Um, like walking down the cleaning aisle at a grocery
store.
The worst instant headache andjust sick.
Yeah.
But some people, like someonewho's not hasn't removed that
stuff from their life yet, theywill walk down that aisle and
they're like, oh, whatever, itsmells great Once you've
restarted removing the stufffrom your life, and then you get
exposed to it again.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
You're like.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I remember back in the day I used to clean with
pine salt and the only way Ifelt like my house was clean is
if I smelt the pine salt.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Did you know?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
there's not any actual pine in pine salt I'm not
surprised at this point, butyou know what I mean like so
back years and years ago it tookme a while to realize you can
still clean without the smell ofa chemical shitstorm cleaner.
And then that translated intoour laundry soap and we switched
that years and years ago, neverusing fabric sheets or fabric
(43:32):
sheets are horrible.
They're basically coating yourclothes oh my gosh, why do those
exist?
um, those unstoppable littlebeads that to make your laundry
smell good just walk to yourlaundry room right now and take
any of this things that we'retalking about and throw them out
yeah, you're not doing anyone,like a lot of people have.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
You're not doing anyone any favors.
Yeah, like the smell is no good, especially if you have kids.
Like you have skinsensitivities like and this
stuff's absorbing it throughyour skin again, like there's so
many things.
It just infuriates me that youknow you watch if you see a
commercial or anything or anadvertisement about these.
Oh, the fresh scent of gain,the fresh scent of chemical shit
(44:13):
storm.
No, remove that out of yourlife.
Everything should be natural.
Like we've been forced intothis belief that the only way
anything is clean is with somekind of chemical and we
willingly pay money to thesechemical companies to expose
(44:36):
ourselves to it and just think,like when you use anything
liquid, um, you're putting it inthe laundry, you're putting it
down the drain, or soap orwhatever.
It's all going in theenvironment through the water,
yeah, so look, go, look down theaisle of the laundry detergent.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
All that stuff is going in the water, yeah one
thing that sucks the most is allthe stuff that you could swap
to that's a better alternativeis usually more expensive, but
not always that's true.
Your laundry or the dishwasherpods we've been using for a long
time are not no, they'reactually cheaper and they work
great.
Yeah, so like dishwasher podsthey're also like chemical shit
(45:12):
storm dishwasher pods, so badfor your guts, like actual gut
health, which is whateverybody's talking about right
now.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
It's who would have thought like that is something
to change yes, everything thatyou have in your house for
cleaning soap, everything, everykind of soap can be swapped
over to something natural.
We've been using Mel Luca.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, and Modera for a long time.
For a long time, modera soap.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, and there's a lot of natural stuff at most
stores now too.
Yeah, a lot of better options.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
But I think it's weird when you because for me it
was really weird to associateclean without the smell and so
if that's still you, you justgot to get used to it.
And the more you're, like yousaid, unexposed to it, the more
you'll notice it, because even Iused to be able to wear all
kinds of different perfumes.
We both did.
We had our favorites.
I had like a perfume collectionI know it's great.
Cologne, yeah, and then straightup phthalates, phthalates,
straight up phthalates.
And so then I was like well,there's only this brand that I
(46:12):
can use, or this brand.
I literally can use nothing,nothing anymore, because I get
such a headache.
And it's like interesting whenyou think about that, like if a
perfume lingers, if you smell it, it's full of the yeah,
everything, everything that has.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
If you you got to turn around, turn it around and
read the back of it.
If it says fragrance and itdoesn't say natural or no
phthalates that fragrance can belike.
I can't remember how manychemicals, like 4 000 different
chemicals or something like thatlisten to the, if you're, if
this is an interesting topic foryou.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Do go listen to the Diary of a CEO podcast, because
that was the one that really gotus our wheels spinning more for
this podcast too.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah, so it has to say natural fragrance.
Yeah, so you want everythingjust to be fragranced with
essential oil, basically.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
And for perfume, like I just love an essential oil
roller and just have it and putit on more often speaking of
things with smells candles, aswe're sitting here with one.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
yes, so candles also endocrine disruptors,
carcinogens, fragrances,formaldehyde, benzene, toluene,
pm 2.5, which is particulatematter5, which is a tiny, tiny
particles that go down into yourlungs when you breathe.
Yeah, so your candles, most ofthem, are made from um petroleum
(47:32):
wax.
Um, sometimes there's,sometimes there's lead in the
wicks.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
So you want to have cotton wicks, wood wicks um
beeswax is the best kind of ofwax um soy wax, coconut wax, any
kind of any kind of everythingnatural, and then no fragrance
in there.
So if you're trying to find adeal on a candle and you look at
the bottom and it doesn't sayum natural scents or whatever
(48:01):
essential oil scents, don't buyit well, remember, there's a
giant one from that brand Iliked at costco and I was like
I'm gonna get this and you turnit around, you're like no, it
said soy blend yeah, they try totrick you in the marketing yeah
.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
So soy blend is it's probably like one percent soy
and 99 percent especially, yougot kids in your house babies,
toddlers, whatever, yeah, I meanjust ourselves and you're
inhaling it yeah, those pluginsthat you put in your house to
make smell those I don't know.
Or like car fresheners, thatyou hang in your car like is it
1999 yeah, all that's chemicalshit store I remember having a
(48:34):
peach tree, like the trees thatyou hung in your on your rear
view mirror.
Yeah, like the peach smellingones, thinking like my car
smells good.
Yeah, do people still use.
Still use those today.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, I've seen.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
I literally I just can't believe that the things
that should be illegal, that arenot.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Oh, toilet bowl cleaners, that's another one.
You can get good toilet bowlcleaners in our.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
What's your take on bleach?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
There's people that are like I need bleach for this?
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Like what's bleach about, I wonder.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I don't know, I don't think it's really necessary,
because it ends up in the wateryeah, well, look at the process,
where it's made and what thatentails.
And yeah, you're also exposingyourself to the chlorine too,
which is not awesome so this isa real upper in terms of a
podcast.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, um.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
We talk about cooking , so natural gas stoves oh yeah,
um, unfortunately who?
Speaker 1 (49:28):
knew this was such a culprit.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
You're exposing yourself to benzene, carbon
monoxide and a bunch of otherchemicals.
So if you're, especially ifyour house isn't your hood, your
hood range or whatever isn'texhausted to the outside, it's
all collecting in your housewell, some people probably cook
on a on a gas range without thefan on yeah so if you have a gas
(49:53):
range stove, make sure you havethe fan on, turn the fan and
that it's vented outside rightaway um, but if you are shopping
for ovens, maybe don't pick gasyeah, we had one and it was
honestly a huge pain in the assto clean.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
We don't prefer it yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Induction is our preference.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, but we didn't realize it was so much for the
health benefit 100%, yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
So a great way to detox yourself from a lot of
this stuff first, exercisesweating really gets a lot of
this stuff out of you, so workup a really, really, really good
sweat.
So that's one way.
Another way is glutathione.
So this is an essential aminoacid that your body actually
makes, and they call this themaster antioxidant.
(50:39):
So this is from so your bodymakes this from sulfuric
vegetables mostly, so thingsthat are high is broccoli
especially broccoli sprouts is,I think, has the highest
concentration, like cauliflower,garlic, asparagus but by
organic probably, yeah, byorganic, and you know I'm going
to talk about uh food here in asecond too.
(51:03):
But um, bedding, that wasanother one.
So are you sleeping on a foammattress?
Yeah so your foam mattress isprobably be made from
polyurethane, which is alsoreleasing vocs as you sleep.
So your pillow should be madeout of natural fibers, because
this stuff's breaking downcontinuously too, right?
(51:25):
you're breathing it in for halfyour life yeah, so you get
exposed to it every night as yousleep.
So we bought a latex bed.
Yeah, we have cotton duvet.
Um, no, silk duvet, cottonduvet cover.
Our my main pillow now actuallyis latex with like cotton
pillowcase and tensile I don'tknow if it's tensile Bamboo,
(51:48):
bamboo sheets.
Yeah, that's what we got, sojust like another swap there.
And then food.
We can talk a little bit aboutfood.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
So some people think buying organic is overrated.
What do you say to that?
Speaker 2 (52:00):
No, for many reasons.
No, for many reasons.
First, like there is somechemicals on organic, but
they're not the same chemicalsthat you'll find on traditional
food.
But the chemicals, like peoplesay, there's like a two list,
there's the dirty dozen and theclean 15 or whatever.
(52:21):
I'm like okay, well, maybethose chemicals aren't soaking
into the skin on the clean 15 orwhatever.
I'm like okay, well, those,maybe those chemicals aren't
soaking into the skin, the skinon the clean 15, but they're
still going into the environmentaround those plants.
So if you got a tree from anavocado because avocados are on
the clean 15 list so you don'thave to buy organic, apparently
(52:42):
they still spray chemicals onthem.
Those chemicals still go in theground, infect the, the whole
environment, run downstream.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
So it's what lens you're looking at it from?
Right If you're looking at itfrom an environmental lens, why
would you want anything that issprayed?
Speaker 2 (52:52):
with that, but at the same time, maybe it doesn't
absorb through the skin, butit's going in the ground, into
the water.
What does a tree drink?
A tree drinks water, which goesup the tree into the fruit.
Yeah, so I'm pretty sure you'restill going to be exposed
either way.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
We have for a very long time buying organic
wherever we can 100% and like,won't even buy things that we
need if it's not organic.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, and you have to wash your vegetables and
there's ways to do it.
You can do it baking soda,vinegar, there's special
vegetable washes.
You just want to get that stuffoff of your vegetables and your
fruit Even if it's organic.
Even if it's organic, you stillget to wash it, but especially
if it's not, yeah, likestrawberries, I think, are one
of the worst, yeah, the worstculprits.
(53:38):
Another thing is glyphosate.
Glyphosate roundup is prettymuch sprayed on every single
crop all over the world thesedays, and what glyphosate does
is it kills the plant and theplant is able to produce.
It kind of goes into like apanic mode and it sends all its
(53:58):
energy up to, like the head ofthe wheat, say, so you get,
you'll get more yield.
It tries to survive, right, soit sends all the energy up.
You get more plant or morefruit out of it, and it makes
sure the crops are all dead anddry at the same time.
So when they're harvesting, youdon't have, like, some spots
(54:20):
that are green still so, so ithelps with harvesting, right,
right, but what this does is inhumans, it it blocks the uh,
it's called the shikimatepathway.
So this shikimate pathway iswhat makes amino acids in plants
, fungi and bacteria.
(54:41):
So what is the healthiest soilout there is full of like fungi
and bacteria.
So immediately, you've killedyour soil.
Yeah, you have no biodiversityin your soil.
You have plants that can't um,they're not talking to each
other because there's none ofthat mycelium or the fungi.
So these plants are lessresistant to bugs, so you need
(55:01):
more chemicals to throw on themto help with pests and all this
stuff.
And now we're eating this stuff.
And what is our microbiome?
our whole microbiome is bacteriaright so you're interrupting
our microbiome, which isessential to our whole overall
(55:23):
health, our mental health, it'severything.
So if you look at stats ofpeople that are, like gluten
intolerant, yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Why has that become such a thing as?
Speaker 2 (55:35):
soon as people the crop started getting sprayed
more and more and more.
This people, who were Gotproblems.
Yeah, got problems.
People were gluten intolerant,like it's amazing.
You just have to look glutenintolerant like it's amazing.
You just have to look at thenumbers and it's like, okay,
well, obviously this isn't good.
So if you're going to buy anykind of wheat or anything um,
basically anything, everythingthat's that is gmo is usually
(55:59):
sprayed with with glyphosate.
So you buy something that'snon-gmo, it's going to not be
sprayed of glyphosate and youjust won't get that exposure
well, even with you.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
You are sensitive to gluten, you notice it and you
will eat like pizza or pasta ifyou know that the type of wheat
is if it's organic, I can.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
I can tolerate it.
You can imagine that imaginethat, imagine that so another
thing you just gotta look whereyour food food comes from we're
always looking at packagingwhat's sprayed on it.
Yeah, like we just have to turnthings around and educate
ourselves on what ingredientsactually are, because there's a
lot of bs out there.
Yeah, um, okay, can we justtalk about skincare a little bit
(56:38):
more?
Speaker 1 (56:39):
um, okay, well, this is getting long, you guys.
Thanks for listening.
We're at 55 minutes so I'llkeep this part short and sweet.
But I think I was saying Ithink that's one place that
we've sort of gotten like we'vefigured out over the last few
years, or the one place we'vemaybe done it more right than
others is with our personal careproducts.
Just because I started usingArbonne like 19 years ago and
it's always been like such astrict ingredient policy and
(57:00):
that's why I love Europe,because they have the strictest
ingredient policy in the worldLike they ban over 1400
ingredients when you put intoproducts and Arbonne like I'm
just talking specifically withproducts we use in my company
but ban another 600.
And so, like when you know thatyou're using products whether
it's going in your body or onyour body that is, two over 2000
ingredients that are banned youknow that at least that's one
(57:24):
area that I'm doing somethinggood and I don't need to worry
about the chemicals in thoseplaces, right?
So you think about lotions, mymakeup, all my skincare, body,
hair, not a lot of nutrition,all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
Like you can just trust.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
I can just trust the brand because, like right now,
our immunity sticks, for example, around back order because of a
global ingredient shortage,like I'm grateful that they
don't just go find something tofill it in so we can keep
selling it.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yeah, because they look to where things are
actually sourced yeah, 100 andlike even in the protein.
Yeah, a lot of proteins.
Protein powders out there areridiculously high in heavy
metals.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Our bonds tested like almost nothing I think it
tested 100 points or some 100something, I don't know what.
The measurement is below thesafe level when they were just
doing heavy metal testing, ppmsor something like that.
Yeah and yeah.
I mean that part for me is justlike okay, that's one easy,
like checkbox, and so it matters.
(58:25):
You guys like where you canmake the swaps, whether it's
your cutting boards or yourlaundry, soap or not wearing
perfume, picking up the litterwhen you're out for a walk,
swapping what you're putting onand in your body.
It all adds up and compoundsand will make such a difference
and we have to start takingresponsibility for this and when
we have the information, wehave to do better with it.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
And I think our governments ultimately make the
decisions of what gets producedand put out into the world.
So if you can be a voice topush that and make this place a
little bit better, I think it'sour duty.
Like we, we're not separatefrom nature.
We, we are nature, we're fromnature.
(59:01):
Um, humans, we try to separateourselves in so many ways, but
ultimately, the health of theplanet is the health of of us
yeah, 100.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
And this podcast is about, you know, spreading love
and raising the vibration of theplanet, and I think this is a
topic that is, you know, reallyimportant.
And there is another topic thatI will figure out at one point,
but it was even something assimple, as I was getting botox
for 10 years and I heard afriend say on a podcast why
would you be injecting a toxin?
(59:33):
because it is a toxin botulism,yep into the third eye and I'm
all about like energy work andchakras and all this stuff and
I'm like I've never thoughtabout putting into my third eye.
Like why would I want to putpoison in the part of my
forehead that I want to be clearand I've never done it since
and I won't.
I'm committed to you know,aging gracefully.
(59:56):
I'm going to age.
It would be weird for me tohave a grandma who had no
wrinkles and I feel like Botoxand fillers and all the things
they work and they they lookgood until a certain age.
When suddenly you're 35 but youlook 50, it does like a flip
almost, and we're just inundatedin this world that I'm getting
off on a tangent like this isliterally a whole other podcast,
yeah, but like that was evenanother area.
(01:00:17):
It's like we're purposely andpaying top dollar.
I paid 600 for my forehead thelast time I got Botox, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
With fillings too, is another one.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Oh my God, cavities.
Yeah, this could be neverending.
There has to be another episodeto this.
But there's things that we cando, like being mindful when it
comes to what is out ofalignment with you or what feels
like it's in alignment with you.
Yeah, and start making thoseswaps.
We can't do everythingovernight, but you're just more
aware, and if this podcastresonates with you, pass it on,
(01:00:47):
share it, tag us, send us amessage.
We'd love to hear from you.
If there are things that wemaybe missed, bring to our
attention.
We can do another episode.
Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, I'd love to hear when do you guys notice
things that should be, I guess,brought to everyone's attention
in this?
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Because to us, that's all about how we can raise the
vibration of the planet is bybringing this up to our
awareness.
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, it's such a low vibe thing, but being unaware
of it will make you lower vibe,literally yeah, literally yeah.
So let's rid ourselves of it asmuch as we can.
Let's spread this informationto other people so we can help
everyone and help the planet.
Just be a little bit cleaner.
(01:01:30):
Be a little bit cleaner.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Thanks for listening, guys.
We're awesome.
I mean, you missed us for acouple months, but here we are
back with a whole hour of Talksand Talk.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
We got another one coming up soon.
Yeah, Thanks for listening.
You guys Appreciate you guys.
Stay awesome.
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