Ep 14: Human Design: Unlocking your true self with Peg Cleland

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Welcome everybody to episode 14of the Love Movement.
I'm so excited to be here today.
We are so excited to be heretoday.
Brian's here.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm here.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
With our really good friend, peg Cleland, who is here
to talk all about human design.
If you know us, you probablyhave heard of Peg talked to Peg
she's already read your chartbut there are really so many
people that have no idea whathuman design is when I talk
about it.
So I'm very excited for thisepisode.
And just to give you guys a bitof background, peg and I
realized we've known each otherfor 15 years already.
That's weird.

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That is weird, yeah, long time.
And I feel like it took me abouttwo years to even get the guts
to talk to you, because, if youdon't know, this Peg was my
instructor at Good Life Fitnessand I would go to the gym every
morning and like think to myselfbecause, you know, I have my
own business too, and I was likeI really want to tell her about
it.
And so, long story short, Isigned up for I don't know like

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a boot camp.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, it was a boot camp.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
And I think the first session you were like I think I
want to learn more about whatyou're offering here.
And then I was like do I haveto keep doing this boot camp
class?
Anyways, now we Now we've beenin business together for 12,
over 12 years, and through thatyou also got involved with human
design, which is what we'rehere to talk about today.
So Peg is a mom, a really goodmom, and she has two kids that I

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think of sometimes.
I mean, when we met, what werethey?
Five and seven, six and eightsomething.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Not well, almost, I guess, yeah, seven and nine,
maybe Seven and nine.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
That sounds more accurate.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
But they were little, my littles.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, 20 and 22.
Now, right, you said.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, my son is 22 and living in New Zealand, so
they're all grown up and movedas far away as possible, but I
just booked my tickets.
We're going to visit them inMay.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh so good, Awesome yeah, love that.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
My daughter's 20.
And my daughter's, mydaughter's 20, and yeah, so
they're they're my world.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yes, I love it, and Peg is a woman full of wisdom
and many accolades, which I'mgoing to get you to like list
off as much as you hate doingthat.
But I just think it's so coolhow, how much you've done in
your life and how, like you said, the thread through all of it
is kind of like educating, and Imet you through fitness and
then we do that through ourother business, and then now
you're doing this big time withhuman design.

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So I feel like it's just, it'swho you are, it's your human
design.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah it is, and I, um, I did get into education
right out of high school, wentto university, and so educating
it started as a teacher.
I did teach school and I taughtphys ed, taught little grade
one kids, and that was.
I also have a love of children,and so obviously that's what
has helped me be, as I say, anexceptional mom.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
You're also very youthful.
It's helped you stay veryyouthful.
Stay very youthful, that'sright.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Thank you, brian.
So, true, yeah, and soeducation in the school system
then turned into fitness, andthen my love of sort of fitness
and that kind of educating tookover and it really turned into
my life's work.
I traveled the world, manyinteresting places I was going
through photo albums the otherday, so great pictures of me

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doing a Nike event in MoscowTraveled through Brazil a little
bit for some work, went toPerth, australia, for five weeks
, lived in Germany, so I'vereally had and it's funny, I
forget these things.
And every once in a while Haleysays mom, you've been to a lot
of places, which is true, and inall those places it's always
been about people, and so Ithink that's where energy.
I just love the energy ofpeople, even though I am and

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it's in my chart I'm a bit of ahermit.
I can be on the introverted side, but when I'm doing what I love
to do, which is what comesthrough as a generator, I yeah,
I can be an extrovert.
And so the thought of teachingfitness when I was in my
twenties was like I could neverdo that.
I could never stand in front ofa group of people, and now you
couldn't get me off the stage,like I love to share it with

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people.
So it's all about energy, andthen human design kind of came
in about well, 2020, when noneof us were doing much of
anything for a while yeah.
And I took an online course andshe was.
It wasn't about human design,that first one, but she
mentioned it and I'd it was likethe second or third time I'd
heard this human design thing,and so I just got curious and

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looked into it and that was thestart of this.
I just got so interested I tooka certification course and now,
you know, I do readings andcourses for various different
topics.
Because human design, becauseit's about humans and energy and
we're all humans with energyand we relate to other people,
we're in relationships, we're inwork environments, we have

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children.
There's so many ways that Imean you can use it in your life
and benefit from knowing aboutit.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So that's kind of how I got started and, yeah, Well,
and when you were learning Idon't know if you were teaching
some of your early courses orsomething, but I got all caught
up in that and it was perfecttiming because I was very
overdue with my son and I justremember that I remember my
visions just being like bouncingon my ball and doing learning

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human design.
It was such a great distractionfor me and when we had our son,
it was well, how quickly didyou?
You went on your phone and likefigured out his human design.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
We were so into it.
It must have been within hoursof him being born.
Yeah, I pulled the phone outand pull up his human design and
it's like cool brian's a reallyrare breed which we'll talk
about um being a reflector.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
So we were kind of like, do you think he's a
reflector?
And he was, like his mom, amanny gen manifesting generator.
So we're gonna jump in and tellyou what all this is about.
But I first peg like whensomeone says to you what is is
human design, because I don'twant anybody on here thinking
like this is too woo, becausethere's a lot of science behind
this.
How do you describe it?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, I guess we sometimes say it's a blend of
science and spirituality, butit's yeah.
So some of the modalities Iguess that are blended in there
are astrology, and you know,astrology is scientific, but a
lot of people might viewastrology as the woo-woo side,
but it is some science.
So astrology the Chinese IChing, which is centuries old,
so ancient Chinese wisdoms comethrough the Kabbalah tree of

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life, the chakra system, which Ithink is often what people,
when they see their chart, theysee those little energy centers,
and so the chakra system issomething most people have heard
about.
They see those little energycenters, and so the chakra
system is something most peoplehave heard about.
So, and with that in mind, ifanybody wants to pause the
podcast and go get their chartdone so they can see what their
little you know chakra centerslook like, you can actually go

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to mybodygraphcom and just lookup your chart.
You need your birth time, placeand date, so, and it needs to
be as close as you can get toyour time of birth, because it
makes a difference.
And so back to what human designis based on astrology.
It's where the planets line upwhen you're born, so that's
where the astrology comes in.
But instead of just being oneof the 12 star signs, human

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design takes it to the next,next, next level.
So I say it's like astrology oncrack.
But that's why your birth timeis important is because at the
moment of your birth, when yourskin comes into the world,
that's when a baby is imprintedwith the energy of the stars and
the planets lined up in thatparticular order.
And this is also where thescience part comes in, because

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quantum physics has proven thatin our atmosphere there are
things called neutrinos and it'slike the smallest subatomic
particle around and they're justfloating around us like
stardust floating through us.
They're there and so at themoment of your birth, those
neutrinos are what give you yourblueprint.
And because neutrinos have beenproven to have a mass

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scientifically, they have a mass.
Anything with mass carriesinformation.
So the information in theatmosphere at the.
Moment of your birth is whatimprints you with your unique
blueprint.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, so that's the science.
Yeah, so yeah.
When I first heard about this,I thought it was going to be
like everything else, likeastrology and Myers Briggs and
all those different things.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And then when we actually got into it and I seen
how dead on it was about me andyou and everyone, I'm like, wow,
okay, well, this is way deeperthan I thought.
It's.
Yeah, it's very accurate.
It's not a surface levelgeneric thing.
It's some legit stuff to it.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
So yeah, and I think that's um, like I said,
sometimes I call it astrology oncrack because it takes
astrology and then itdifferentiates you more and more
and more.
So, you know, with the, withthe Zodiac signs, I'm a, I'm a
Virgo, other people are Virgos,but we could be very, very
different Virgos and there's noreal explanation for that.

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It's you're kind of lumped intoone generic Virgos.
This is what a Virgo is mostlylike, but in human design we
have so many different.
You know, there's centers,there's gates, there's channels,
there's profile lines, there'sall the different planetary
things.
It's just so much that makesyou unique and I often think of
the word homogenization.
Much that makes you unique.
And I often think of the wordhomogenization because, as I've

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said, this human design isreally designed for children.
If we can catch kids early,like Marty, two hours into his
birth, you knew who he was,because then you can start to
parent.
I know you have Parentaccording to who he is truly at
birth, not who he has beenconditioned to be, because
that's what happens to us afterwe're born is.
You know, our parents nurtureus, but nurturing is a form of

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conditioning, because the wayyou parent is maybe the way your
parents parented, so you wereconditioned by them and so and
there's traditions and there'ssociety and there's education
systems and there's teachers,and then there's your peer group
and every little bit of stuffthroughout your life conditions
you and changes you maybe just alittle bit from who you were
naturally at birth.
So human design was really it'sreally promoted to be used for

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children, to keep them asauthentic as they were born and
not change them over time, canyou?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
imagine if we all just walked around life in our
full, authentic selves, howdifferent the world would be.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
It would be amazing, so different.
Yeah, and I think human designis an opportunity, kind of a
permission slip.
We say it's a permission slipto experiment with, maybe who
you were, because when I doreadings, when I do readings,
sometimes people think, well,that doesn't really sound like
me, but if maybe they playedaround with it a bit, they'd go.
It doesn't maybe sound like me,but it sure sounds like

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something I could get on boardwith.
And maybe it's a gift that I'veforgotten because somebody
conditioned it out of methroughout my lifetime and has
changed me and shut me down inthat way that I was meant to
shine.
So, yeah, it's really awonderful way to move away from
homogenization andgeneralization of you know,
you're a Virgo, you're a Leo,you're a this to no, you're so
much more than that.
Instead of homogenizing ourchildren through their lifetime,

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we can differentiate them andtreat them so much more
individually.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I think that's where Understand them so much better.
You know, when I learned aboutBrian being as unique as he is,
you call him a unicorn.
It's like everything makessense, honestly, and so I think
in a partnership it's soimportant, and for sure, raising
kids and if you're in businesswith other people, it just
allows you to understand whypeople are the way that they are
and to be like great, like, letthem be like that, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, exactly, can you?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
explain quickly, because I love when you share
the difference between humandesign and say like a
personality test.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, because there's a lot of tests out there
and they're fun.
I like to take them too, butyou know, a lot of people know
what their Enneagram is.
They've done the Myers-Briggsor the DISC personality test.
But the thing with those isit's it's a test, like you're
taking a quiz and you'reanswering the questions, whereas
human design, it's given to youin your birth, it's your birth

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information, it's it's um.
The universe gave it to you,basically the energy around you
at your birth.
So with personality tests, if Itook it in my 20s, I would
probably choose differentanswers.
I was a different person in my20s.
I've grown a lot since then.
We don't need to know how manyyears away from there I am, but
a lot of years, um, and so Iknow that if I took the test

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again same test I would havedifferent answers or I might
choose answers according to whatI think sounds good.
And that's something thatinfluences a lot of us in our
daily lives, as we make choicesbased on what we think we should
choose what would sound good.
We make vision boards based onwhat we think Doesn't everybody
want this type of life.

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You know we try to homogenizeour vision boards.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
It's like externally influenced instead of internally
.
What's true?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yep and external validation, where we're so often
looking outside of ourselves,when everything, all your power,
is inside you and human design,really get kind of digs into
what that is.
What are your little secretgifts in there?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I love that.
I think, if you're listening tothis, you guys, I would stop
and encourage you to get yourchart and to see, because what
you're first going to notice,one I don't know, peg, how you
want to go into this, but likethe defined and undefined,
because I think it's humannature, we see a chart that's
colored in and we're like, oh, Ihave a better chart than you.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yes, that's not the case.
So let's jump in Like, let'stalk about the actual chart,
because this is so fascinating.
Yeah, and I think it is a humancharacteristic to that whole
comparison thing and we we are,so we do this is good, this is
bad, this is better, this isworse.
And what you said is so true.
When people look at their chartand I was guilty of this when I
got my chart most of my centersare white.
Seven of them are white and Ihave two of them that are

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colored in and we call thosecolored ones defined, and the
white ones are undefined or open.
There's a slight difference,but they're undefined and I
looked at it and I thought, well, they're not colored in, that
means it's unfinished, I'mincomplete, I only have two.
I ran my daughter's chart.
She has seven colored and onlytwo white ones.
So of course, hers must bebetter.

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It looks better.
It's like a coloring book yeah,mine's not finished and hers is
looking great.
And it would be the same thingfor, like, marty has every
single center defined We'll talkabout him and Brian has every
single center white, but it'sperfect for Brian.
It's who Brian is and, as hesaid when he learned more about

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it.
It's like, oh, that makes sense.
Oh, totally, everything clicked.
And then you heard about you.
It's like, yes, that's so true.
Oh, that's Brittany.
Like it's just so bang on sooften that I don't think you can
argue with it.
You know once you learn more.
So, yeah, the defined andundefined.
And so when your centers aredefined, they're colored.
It means that you are emittingthat energy, you have access to

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it, it's coming out of you 24-7.
You're born with it and it'scoming out when the centers are
white, it means that you aremore taking in the energy of
other people in those centers.
So, brian, as an example, withall white centers being a
reflector, he takes in energyfrom everybody.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's hard to walk around, as me some days.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Let me tell you True, so true and we will talk about
reflectors and we'll dive moreinto that a little bit.
But yeah, that's what yourcenters are, what you're giving
out and maybe what you're takingin and the centers that are
white.
At first you might think, well,that's you know.
Again, that's bad, because I'mnot.
I don't have my own energy togive out in those centers.
But I've learned to really lovemy centers that are open

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because you can sample and youcan let it go Like you can take
in some thoughts from otherpeople and their perspectives,
but you can also be veryopen-minded and let their
thoughts go and choose somethingdifferent.
Like it's there's.
There's benefit to both andit's just perfect for you.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
There's no good or bad.
Charts are like a fingerprint,right Like.
Every one is different.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Everyone is different .
We sometimes say like afingerprint or a snowflake.
Or I often, you know, say thatwe're like a big puzzle, an 8
billion piece puzzle in theworld, and everybody has their
own piece.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's a good way.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
And so, instead of all trying to fit into somebody
else's piece oh, I want to bethat, I should be that.
No, if you try to be everybodyelse, then we don't have your
piece to finish this puzzle.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
So we all need to live into our own little unique
part of the puzzle.
Yeah, I've been looking at lifemore like every single person
is like another uniqueexpression of this.
You know intelligence.
That's right.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, exactly, I love that.
Oh my gosh, this is already sogood, just learning about this
and getting a refresher.
So if you're looking at yourchart, you can kind of see, okay
, so that's what this means,yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
And then there's also maybe just to describe when.
When the centers light up yeah,I'll say light up.
When they color, the colors inparticular don't matter, because
some charts are different.
So if the if you're looking atyellow or green or Brown, that
doesn't matter.
That's just to sort of separatethe chart so we can visually
see it.
The color itself doesn'trepresent anything, just that
it's either, you know, definedor it's undefined.

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And the reason the centersbecome defined is because
there's a channel between them.
It's like a little bit of anelectric current and if it goes
completely from one to the other, those two centers on either
end light up and become defined.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay, before we go into the five energy types, is
there anything else that youwant to describe about, like the
actual looking of at a chart,or like what all those centers
are, or no?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Well, we could just briefly go through them, I guess
.
So at the very top you meanlike the crown center, and I
always use my hands.
But if you're not watching this, so at the very top you mean
like the crown center, and Ialways use my hands.
But if you're not watching this, but at the very, very top
you'll see a triangle at the top.
That's your crown or your headcenter, and that's a center of
inspiration, like taking inideas from the world around you.
The next center, down from thatand it looks right mid face or

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mid head, that is your mind.
It's also called your Ajna, butif you just want to think of it
as your mind, it's like acomputer processor.
It's where you process things,information that comes in.
And the one thing with thatcenter that is not good
sometimes is that we do a lot ofthinking in our heads about

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some of our decisions and we'regoing to talk.
We don't make we shouldn't makedecisions from our head,
because it's a processing center.
And the other thing that's upthere is a lot of limiting
beliefs or just beliefs,conditioned beliefs, things you
learned as a kid that you'vecontinued on with.
That maybe aren't true, you'venever questioned them, but it's
a processing center.
That one, the one at the throat, is the throat center, so

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there's a little square there.
And that one is the center ofmanifestation.
We call it, but it doesn't meanthat if you don't have it you
can't manifest.
It's sort of a differentmeaning to it and again, we
can't go as deep as it would befor 12 hours talking about
everything, but it is the centerthat brings things out into the
material world, whether that'scommunication, activation,

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manifestation, so, and a lot ofthe channels we say all channels
lead to the throat, or allroads lead to the throat.
When you look at a chart, theyall end up there.
The one underneath it which isa diamond shape, and on the
mybodygraphcom it's a yellowcolor.
If yours is defined, that's theidentity center or the G center
, and it is a center that hasthe energy of self-love,

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direction and identity in life.
Um, and again, I want to justmake sure that everybody knows
just because yours is white andit's undefined, it doesn't mean
that you have no self-love oryou have no identity.
It just, it just shifts thingsa little bit, but you still have
it.
Humanity, it just, it justshifts things a little bit, but
it you still have it.

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We all have the whole chart.
If that helps anybody, we allhave the whole.
Brian's chart is complete.
He's got all the centers.
He uses them differently thanmarty, whose chart is fully
defined.
Yeah, so we all have the chart.
Um, the little tiny one that'sright close to that diamond
shape is the heart and it'scolored red on the my body graph
, like a little heart would be.
And the heart is the center ofwillpower.

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It's also called the ego centeror the will center, but it's
the center of drive, desire,commitment.
So it's a very yeah, it's avery driven center.
Only 30% of the population haveit defined, so most people
don't.
It's the center of value aswell, so that's a big one that
can be conditioned because it'sour sense of self-worth and so

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it's a really tricky.
I've often done courses on thatin itself.
Just the heart center becauseof self-worth issues that we
have, you know, comparison andcompetition for the sake of
competition and where we don'tneed to have that.
We are enough because we areenough, and that's what the
heart center message is.
The big one in the center, nearthe bottom, the red one, is a

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major center.
It's the sacral and it's red onthe my Body Graph chart and if
it's defined, it means you're agenerator or a manifesting
generator.
That is the generator centerand the sacral is all about life
force, energy.
It's also about sexuality, thatcenter, but if it's defined,

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then you're automatically one ofthe generators generator or
manifesting generator.
There's two triangle shapes oneither side of the sacral.
One of them is the emotionalsolar plexus.
So if you're looking at yourchart, the one on the right hand
side is the emotional solarplexus, which is all about
emotions and that's what makesus human and it's interesting.

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That's a very important centerfor relationships and in houses.
Who's got the emotions in thefamily and who's absorbing the
emotions in the family.
So that's an important one.
On the other side, the browntriangle is the spleen and
that's this.
It's an awareness center aboutsurvival and instinct.
It's your health and wellness.
And the thing I love about thatcenter too is that it's all

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about the five senses and thesixth sense.
That's where intuition lives.
So it's very intuitive.
And then the bottom one, thevery bottom, is the root.
The root center is a bit of anadrenaline center.
It's where you're, it's apressure center and it's
sometimes where stress can liveor how we handle stress can
sometimes be based on what wehave going on in that center.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I love that overview.
That was even a good littleoverview for us, I think.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, and it helped for us because we have our
charts in front of us so we cansee what's going on.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
So do that if you're listening, for sure.
So let's just jump into thefive actual types, because I
think that's the thing is whenpeople start to know what human
design which I do think it'sbecoming a bit more common- A
lot of times I can say to peopleyou know what's your human
design, and they're like I'm amani-gen or I'm a generator.
They know.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, I've been hearing about it too in some
pretty surprising circles ofpeople.
I'm like, oh wow, these peopleare talking about this thing.
It's funny.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I always think you know the old pickup line hey,
what's your sign?
Yeah, Now it is.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Hey, what's your human design?
Yeah, so true, which tells youa whole lot more about a person
than their sign does.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I love it.
So should we start withmanifestors?
Yeah, so there are fivedifferent energy types and the
energy types.
Everything is determined bythose centers that we just
talked about, depending whichones are lit up, whether it's
the sacral or some of the motorsor the throat, which ones are
lit up, whether it's the sacralor some of the motors or the
throat, and we're not going togo into all of the reasons why,
but those centers are whatdetermine your energy type.

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So the five types are themanifester generator.
Manifesting generator, which ismore, it's mostly generator but
it's got a little bit ofmanifesting tendencies the
projectors and the reflectors.
So those are the five, andmanifestor is about I'll give
you the percentages too.
About 8% of the population aremanifestors, so it's a fairly

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rare one.
Manifestors are.
They have big, bold energy andthey are the just do it people.
So I mentioned before aboutchildren.
If kids are manifestors,they're the ones that are kind
of hard to parent, because theydon't need parents.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Manifestors don't I remember you saying that Like
whenever I see a manifestor, I'mlike oh, you're the one that
can parent yourself.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, they just like to do their own thing.
They're very independent, havetheir own ideas.
They're the one energy typethat we don't have a strategy to
wait.
So every energy type has astrategy that helps it move
through the world.
The energy type is like youraura, your energetic aura, and
the strategy is how you movethrough life with the least

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resistance and the mostalignment.
So for manifestors, theirstrategy is to inform.
They don't really have to waitfor much, I guess, except an
idea or an urge to do something.
But their strategy is to informand the reason for that is
because they're just go-gettersand they're just going to do
things and they don't want toask permission.
They just want to do it byinforming the people around them

(25:04):
.
Hey, I'm going to do this.
It takes away some of theresistance, People get out of
their way so they can just go dotheir thing.
And again, it's not asking forpermission, which is hard when
you're parenting a manifestorchild.
But if you can teach themanifestor child to inform you,
or especially with smallchildren, it's a little bit of
asking for permission.
But it's also just sort oftelling you mom, I'm going to go

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play at Susan's house insteadof them just going, Cause the
manifestor child will just dothat.
They decide they're going to goplay with their friend Susan
and they're gone down the street, three houses down, Cause
that's where they know Susanlives and the parent is freaking
out.
So if they, if parents, cankind of get them to inform, then
at least the parent knows andthey can say oh, I'll walk you
down there, or we can't go rightnow, but let's do it right

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after lunch.
Anytime a parent can say yes toa manifestor.
That's just like music to theirears, because a manifestor
loves freedom.
It's like get out of my way.
I want to do what I want to do.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I feel like our son is more manifestor than
generator.
He hates no, yeah, okay.
So it's something that you'veeven taught me to say, like
don't say no, say yes, you cando that, but first let's do this
.
So you've taught me how to likephrase it differently, so that
he is hearing the yes, but maybenot right now.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, cause the more you can say yes,
the more they'll be on boardwith even listening to you.
So if you say yes, we're goingto do that as soon as we get
dressed.
Yeah, yes, we're going to, yeah, lead with a yes, yeah, exactly
.
But even for grownups, likemanifestors have big, bold

(26:39):
energy.
When they walk into a room,their aura can be a little bit
repelling, which sounds bad, andit's not a bad thing, but it's
a little bit like people sensetheir powerful energy and just
sort of step aside like whoa,because manifestors are leaders
and they will.
Yeah, they take their ideas andthey just they have lots of

(26:59):
impact and power.
The problem is a lot of adultmanifestors are no longer living
as manifestors.
They've lost their boldness.
They've forgotten it because aschildren it was stifled.
It was.
You know they're like a wildhorse as a child, but it's been
and I don't mean this againstparents, because you know
parenting is hard man, but it'sbeen beat.

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You know they've been broken.
They're a wild horse that'sbeen tamed and taught to sit in
a desk and do it this way andlisten to others and always ask
permission, and you know allthose things.
It's.
It's very interesting, and I'mnot saying that we just let
manifestor children run theworld.
But if you know they're amanifestor, there are things you
can do to help give themfreedom, help give them choices,

(27:42):
help them continue to be thatbold personality that you want
later on in life.
Because it's funny as childrenwe push down the manifestors, we
try to tame them and train them, but as adults we praise them.
If you could see somebody intheir bold power taking action
in the world.
We want everybody to bemanifestors, even when they're

(28:03):
not.
We all think we should bemanifestors even when we're not.
Like I'm not designed to be amanifestor.
I'm a generator and I do thingsdifferently.
But we have so many peopletrying to push to be manifestors
as adults but in children wejust don't like that behavior.
It's interesting.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
That is very interesting.
I think this is going to be sofascinating for people listening
, knowing if, like you know,they're the manifesto, for
example.
Right, because, two things thatjust make us laugh.
Our mutual friend Lindley sheis a manifesto and she's
definitely the get it doneperson.
She's a leader.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
But I would make like I would get so annoyed with her
when we would do events becauseall of a sudden I turn over
around and like she's gone, likewhere did she go?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
she's ninja dust out of the house all the time, like
so yeah, yeah, exactly.
But now I understand her, likeit doesn't annoy me, like it did
because I get it.
Or when I would sit there andsay you need to smile, like I
think people think that you'regrumpy or you're not nice, and I
would have to like smile andshe's, and now I it, like that's
just who she is, and even mysister-in-law she's a manifester
and so it's just so funny how Ihave all these manifestors
close to me.

(29:11):
But I can.
When you understand it, ithelps you to understand them and
hopefully for them tounderstand themselves, most
importantly, exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
And that's where I find you know, when I do
readings for couples, or if I doit for parents with their
children, the family situationit's now they understand and you
can find ways then toaccommodate, to relate, to get
along better energetically.
It's funny and I often attachanimals and you've heard this

(29:38):
before but to the differentenergy types and the manifestor
would really be like a lone wolfand a wolf has.
There's a leader of the packpack and the lone wolf.
That is the leader of the pack,cause they have ideas and they,
you know the pack will followthem.
But sometimes the lone wolfwill just peace out and go off
and sit on the top of themountain and howl at the moon.
You know, like he just gone,doesn't need the well, he needs

(30:01):
the pack, but he doesn't really,he doesn't rely on them.
They should just follow him.
That's, it's the lone wolf ideaand I have this written in my
notes and maybe then we'll haveto kind of move on to the next
thing, or we could be.
There's so many things but inbold I put down for in my
programs I teach you are nothere to please other people
manifestors, for sure, For sure.
You are not here to care whatother people think, for sure

(30:23):
You're not here to seek others'opinions or their approval and
you're not here to askpermission, Like that's big,
bold, big bold energy.
You know, and it applies to allof us a little bit.
None of us should really carewhat others think, but
manifestors, that's totallytheir thing, Love it.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Step into your power.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Exactly, yeah, because the rest of us are
waiting for that.
That's inspiring to us.
So if we lose our manifestorsand they, you know, they just
don't want to be too boldbecause as a kid they were told
you know, you're a little bittoo much.
Um, we've lost those rolemodels that we could just rise
up and follow.
The one thing I don't want toforget to say too, with each
energy type is they have a alittle barometer or a signal of

(31:03):
when they're in a good frequencyand when they're a little bit
low on the frequency.
So, for manifestors, their goodside is peace.
When they're feeling at peace,they know that they're doing
what they want to do when theywant to do it and they're not
being interrupted and all thatstuff.
Very peaceful Things are well.
On the other end, it's anger.
So manifestors who are notbeing allowed to do their things

(31:26):
will be angry, and we call itmanifestor rage sometimes.
So if you have a kid who throwstemper tantrums, like it is,
that's the manifestor.
Somebody's getting in their way, stopping them from doing what
they want, taking away theirfreedom, saying no, no, no, no.
They've heard it one too manytimes and they're just going to
throw a fit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
That's so helpful to know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
And for parents, I mean, if your child has that,
find ways that they can releasethe anger because it may come up
from something that happened atschool.
But you know, get them a littlepunching bag, let them punch
some pillows, let them gooutside in the backyard and
scream a nursery rhyme at thetop of their lungs.
You know, whatever it is, butget the anger out.
And for adults, I think theyhave rage rooms.
Now you can rent a rage room ifyou're a manifester and you're

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having some issues.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, I think, if you haven't done this for your
whole family yet, you shouldprobably go do that yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's the starting point for sure.
Like know yourself, know yourpartner, know your kids for sure
who's living in the same house?
Yeah, okay, so that's 8% of thepopulation.
8%, yeah.
Are you ready to go togenerator?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Sure, so let's talk just first of all about gens,
and we'll say gens and mannygens, it's shorter and easier to
say.
So generators are 37% of thepopulation and manny gens are
about 33% and both of themcombined, 70% of the population
have the generator, life force,energy.

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Their sacral is lit.
So that's 70% of the populationthat we're the builders, we've
got the energy.
We're the doers, we do things,we're full of energy, especially
for the things that light us up.
So we're going to talk aboutthat a little bit.
But generators should be doingthings that they want to do.

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But so many of those 70% peopleare doing things that they
don't really want to do forvarious reasons, because they
felt they should or they had toor whatever.
But just think about the energyof the world shrinking when 70%
of the people are not followingtheir passions and doing what
they love.
So I always like to share thatmessage because it's important

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that we trust our sacral.
And the sacral, as we'll getinto, is the.
It's the indicator of what you,what's a yes and what's a no,
and you know people may haveheard this If it's not a hell
yes, it's a no, and that is agenerator slogan.
What we do in our lives needsto be a hell yes.
It needs to turn us on andlight up our sacral with a hell
yes.
So we'll separate the two alittle bit because they are

(33:52):
different.
So pure generator we'll talkabout first.
That's what I am, so I don'thave any of the manifesting in
me, but generators.
Our strategy is to respond.
So, like I said with themanifestors, their strategy is
just to inform people and goforward with their ideas.

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Generators we respond to thethings around us.
So there's something in yourenvironment that will.
It's almost like it activatesyour sacral for a yes or a no.
Do I want to follow this, do Inot?
And maybe the best way I candescribe this is by giving the
animal first.
So for gens and mani-gens, Iwould say it's a dog, an

(34:33):
energetic dog.
Dogs have lots of energy.
You take them to the park, theygot lots of energy.
They want to burn off all thatenergy, and that's important for
people too.
We need to burn off our sacralenergy through the day so we
sleep well.
At night, we need to be and notjust physically active, but
mentally, spiritually, whateverit is, whatever's lighting us up
.
We're doing it through the dayso that at nighttime we're like

(34:56):
a dog, we're tired, we want torest.
But if you think of a dog at thepark and this idea of the
strategy being to respond, a dogwill see a ball and if it's the
ball he wants, like it's hisred ball, he'll chase it.
If it's a yellow ball, maybeit's a no, or it's too big,
maybe it's a no.
So that's his, like sacral,saying yes or no.
He responds by following thered ball, chasing it down.
He's got it.
He gets the red ball and then,oh, he smells something over.

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This way, it's a rabbit, hesmells.
He's responding yes, I want tochase that rabbit.
He goes that way.
So it's responding to thingsoutside of himself.
That's what generators andmanifesting generators do.
Something outside of us willspark us in a way that makes our
sacral go.
Oh, you know, maybe it's asmell of a food.
Oh, I'm hungry now.

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That's what sparks it.
Or, you know, you've beenthinking about doing a retreat
and suddenly you see a billboardof a palm tree on a beach in
the Bahamas.
You think I want to do thatretreat and I'm going to set it
up in the Bahamas.
Do you know what I mean?
Like it's something that sparksit.
It's not just your idea thatyou initiate, because that's
what manifestors do.
They just initiate.

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Generators respond to thingsaround us, in our environment.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Okay, interesting, that makes sense.
Yeah, that makes total sense.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Because sometimes the strategies are interesting.
But I think if you the way Ithink about it is yeah, things
come to me, I don't have tochase things down.
They'll come into my life andI'll respond yes or no, and then
, I just make my choices.
So the thing with the yes, nosacral is it's great because

(36:31):
it's really good guidance in ourlives to follow the right path.
The problem with we don'tlisten to it.
I guess that's the problem.
So your sacral is gut and ifanybody who's a gen or a mani
gen in your gut can you feelwhen you like something or when
you don't like it.
And sometimes it's good topractice with food.
You know, if someone, if Ioffered you some sardines, what

(36:53):
did you feel in your stomachright away when I said, do you
want a can of sardines?
If it kind of went and shrunkdown, it's kind of a no, it's
icky, it's uh-uh, uh-uh,guttural sound, uh-uh.
And if I said do you want to gofor a walk outside?
It's a sunny day, and yousuddenly lit up in your stomach,
said yes, like it felt like anexpansive uh-huh, uh-huh.

(37:15):
Even my eyebrows go up when Isay uh-huh.
Those are the guttural feelingsthat you get when you start to
trust your sacral and it's trulyjust like an on-off switch,
your sacral, and it's truly justlike an on-off switch.
So it's good for gens andmani-gens to practice using that
as much as you can, feelingyour gut.
Learning to trust your gut,because so often we don't trust

(37:36):
ourselves and our bodies.
I mentioned earlier that that'show we make decisions is within
our bodies, not up here betweenour ears, where there's lots of
limiting beliefs and stories.
So getting in touch with yourgut is so important for sacrals.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
When I look back and think of like different
decisions, like houses we'vegotten, or even the move out
here, like I've always been,when I look back, I have had
that quality where I'm like.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I know.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
And when we get to Brian, you'll understand why he
takes off in it.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, you're very good at knowing what you want
and following through with it.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, and that's good and trusting it, because it we
just don't trust it so often.
So, and that's the thing is, ifwe, if we don't say yes to the
things that are a hell yes, thenour sacral energy kind of dims
a little bit.
The more we say yes to thethings that really light us up,
or the foods we want to eat, orthe places we want to go or move

(38:29):
, or jobs you want to take, orpeople you want to have a
relationship with or go forcoffee with, the more we say yes
to the right things, the moreyour sacral it almost like it
just refuels its energy.
And the more we're saying yesto things that we don't really
want to do, the more it shrivelsdown and diminishes.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
It's kind of like a muscle It'll atrophy or it'll
get stronger.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Absolutely, and because most well sorry, most
many people don't listen totheir sacral and I often like to
point out the word should it'sa swear word for gens and
mani-gens Because how many timeshave you well, because we have
so much energy, you think, well,I've got the energy.
I should say, yes, I could dothat, so I should.

(39:13):
We take on all this work, thisextra work?
People ask us to do thingsbecause they feel your energy.
Our energy is open andenveloping.
We draw things to us and that'sfine to draw things to us, but
we can always say no when it'snot aligned with our sacral.
But so often we want to pleaseother people.
We know we get praised everytime we agree to do something.
We've learned it through ourwhole childhood.
When you say yes, you're a goodgirl, you're a good person,

(39:35):
you're helping other people andthat's.
It's nice to help other people,but not if it shrinks you and
your light.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
I have like I'm not going to get into it, but like I
feel like there's examples, asa recent for me, where it's like
, oh, I should do this, thatfeeling, and then I do it, and
as I'm doing it, I'm justcursing it because it's like I
know that I shouldn't be doingthis.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Why did I say yes to this?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yes and I.
It's funny, but I've sometimessaid I, because I'm a generator
and now that I know this aboutmyself and I'm a huge was a huge
people pleaser, I'm gettingbetter.
Yeah, but I've learned toalmost.
I use my human design as a likea scapegoat.
Yeah, even if it's, even ifit's just in my own mind.
It doesn't have to, but I couldtell other people I'm a

(40:17):
generator and I really feel likein my gut, this is a no for me
right now.
I just don't feel that it's agood choice to say yes to this
opportunity or whatever it is.
Or I can just in my own head,when I say no, it's like it's
okay to say no, peg, becauseyour gut said no, it's okay.
The other thing that helps mesometimes is if you think of,
let's say, somebody offered me aspeaking engagement at a

(40:37):
conference, like that's awonderful opportunity.
But what if, for me, at thatmoment in time or maybe it was
the topic or the whatever my gutwas telling me no, I really
don't want to do that, I reallydon't, but I should.
And I caught myself sayingshould and I thought, nope, I'm

(40:58):
going to say no For me.
Also, I think, if I say no,because the energy I bring to
that conference would be okay,but maybe not my best.
I'd have to push hard to makeit my best energy.
If I say no, though, I'mleaving space for that other
person that's on their list whois dying to say yes, that job
was meant for somebody else, andif I say yes, I'm taking it
away from them.
So I sometimes think about itas a universal it's universal
goodness.

(41:19):
Every yes that I feel yes for isdoing good for everybody.
Every yes.
If I say yes to something,that's truly a no for me.
I'm not helping any of us.
It's bad energy.
I'm not giving you my best.
Other people are missing out onsomething.
So, yeah, it's interesting.
Another example could be you'reasked to be the room mom at

(41:39):
school, be the room mother andorganize the something or other,
and you don't want to do it.
You say, okay, sure, I'll do it.
What if there was a new mom whojust would love to do that
because that's her thing, andyou said, yes, you took it away
from her.
She could have been way betterthan you at it, but you said yes
.
And if we can get thosethoughts into our head that it's
not, it's not just that we'resaying no and disappointing

(42:01):
somebody we might actually bemaking it better for somebody
else.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Totally.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, so it's just all kind of mindset stuff, I
guess how we look at it.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
That makes so much sense.
So 37% are generators.
Yeah 8% are manifestors, yep.
And then you said the mani-genis 33%.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, so mani-gens are like, mostly generator
because they've got that energy,but they do have in their chart
and we won't go deep but one oftheir centers is like they've
got some motor centers.
A motor to the throat is whatmakes them a generator, but
manifesting generator Okay.
So it just means they move alittle bit faster.

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Does it mean we talk too much?
Some of the differences betweena gen and a mani gen are that
mani gens move faster.
Does it mean we talk too much?
Some of the differences betweena gen and a mani-gen are that
mani-gens move faster.
So I often compare us a littlebit like the tortoise and the
hare, and the generator is thetortoise has the energy, just
keeps moving forward, movingforward steadily, moving forward
to master whatever it is that'slighting them up.

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The mani-gen is like the hareruns ahead, skips some steps,
jumps right into it and then,oops, they missed a step.
They got to go back a few stepsbecause they need to catch up,
but anyway, they just move fastand then they sometimes have to
retrace their steps.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
That's accurate Even at the beginning of this podcast
.
Hey, peg.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
It's like I'm just going to jump in, I'm just going
to do it.
And the other thing is andoftentimes I think mani gens can
be called flaky, or otherpeople make them feel flaky
because they do move quickly andthey change their mind.
Sometimes they like to domultiple things, so they've got
their foot in a lot of differentor what is it your hand?
In a lot of different pots, alot of different doors, whatever
it is.

(43:46):
But they've got a hobby andthen they've got this job and
then they signed up for that andthey're going to do this over
here and that they can handle it.
They're they're mastermultitaskers, whereas I think
generators are a little bit morefocused.
Many gens can kind of juggle alot of things and they also
might drop something.
If it doesn't interest themanymore, they will drop it Right

(44:06):
, whereas generators are alittle bit more like if they
said yes, I'm sticking to this.
Because I said yes, I'm goingto follow it through right to
the finish, right, so yeah, Didwe say oh yeah, you said it's an
energetic dog, was bothgenerator and mani-gen.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Anything else about mani-gen,both generator and manager.
Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Anything else about manager?

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Multipassionate, I think, is a big one Again.
Oh, sorry I didn't cover thetwo barometer ends.
Oh, yes, and this goes for bothof them.
But for generators it'ssatisfaction is when I'm because
I'm a generator, if I'm in goodalignment, any generators
feeling good about things aregoing to feel satisfied.
They're doing things that lightthem up.
You know, everything's good.

(44:50):
Frustration is the other end.
That's our red flag.
So if I'm feeling frustrated,you kind of check in on yourself
and is it something?
Did you say yes to somethingyou should have said no to peg?
Hmm, I wonder.
So it's those kinds of things.
When we're feeling frustratedthere's something kind of off in
our energetic alignment.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
That is the most accurate thing for me oh, you
can't get the printer to work,brittany, nothing sets me off so
immediately as technologyissues.
It's like the most annoyingthing.
I was like yelling and snappingat him.
He's like calm down.
Okay fast, dog, just slow downhere, let me pet you a little
bit.
Annoying thing.
I was like yelling and snappingat him.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
He's like calm down, hey fast, dog, just slow down
here, let me pet you a littlebit, we'll get you back, oh
that's funny, funny, but so true.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
And even like, just because I'm picking on lindley
or her being a manifester andher being, you know, goes to
anger.
It's when we learned that fromyou, it was like it's so true.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
She immediately goes mad and I immediately go
frustrated, like it's yeah, yeah, I hope, if you're listening,
you're just getting epiphanyafter epiphany because it's so
true yeah, the other thing aboutmanifesting generators I was
going to say because they havethat manifester kind of I can do
it, do energy, do do.
Yeah, they have a.
They have some difficulty withdelegation and feeling like they

(46:06):
see things that need to getdone, they do it because they've
got the energy to do it.
So they're doing all the things, whereas you know, especially
if you're doing the things thatmaybe you don't necessarily love
to do, delegate those tosomebody who would love it.
Like whether it's technology,like you hire a virtual
assistant if that's insomebody's business who they
hate, all that technical stuffyou can delegate.

(46:27):
But manifesting generatorsstruggle a little bit with that
because they feel like, well,I've got the energy, I can do it
.
It'll take more time to explainto somebody else what to do
than if I just do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, that is bang on also, yeah, okay, this is an
interesting one.
I love learning aboutprojectors.
Tell us about projectors.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Okay, hey, this is an interesting one.
I love learning aboutprojectors.
Tell us about projectors.
Okay, and both my kids areprojectors, which was
interesting.
I thought and maybe this was afirst realization that I had
that because projectors are whatwe call non-energy beings,
because they don't have theirsacral, which is that you know
life force, energy, and they'renot like a manifestor.
Manifestors don't have a sacral, but they have surges of energy
, so they are more drivenbecause of their motor center to
the throat.

(47:10):
But projectors oftentimes thinkthat they're lazy.
When they hear about themselves, they're like oh, sounds like I
don't have any energy.
I'm not an energy being, it'sjust that you use it differently
.
One of the things aboutprojectors is they're far more
efficient.
They get twice as much done inhalf the time so they can rest,
because they're designed to needsome rest.

(47:33):
So projectors are 21% of thepopulation and maybe I'll get to
their strategy in just a minute.
I'll keep talking about theirenergy because I think I mean
our life is set up not reallyfor projectors, because school
is set up, you know, nine tothree, four o'clock, whatever

(47:53):
and because they're not anenergy being, they don't have as
much energy as sacrals, butbecause their center is open.
Remember I said how the opencenters are where you absorb.
So you can be absorbing energyfrom sacral beings around you
and that's good.
You can borrow some energy andget through the school day maybe
, but it's not your energy tohold as a projector, because it
doesn't really belong in yoursacral, and so they can get

(48:15):
really burnt out.
So a full day of school or anine to five job is a lot for a
projector to sit through.
They just don't have it.
So they need, you know, a halfday of work would be great I
think 2020 and whether or not wecan say the word of what
happened there but it put peopleon a pause and for a lot of
projectors might've saved theirlife.
They suddenly got to go homefrom work and be at home for a

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while and just get some rest andthen maybe decide that they
could work two days from homewhen life was back at normal.
Or maybe they decided theydidn't, could never handle that
job again and they quit.
Or you know, they worked halfdays at work because they
realized they got so much moredone when they were rested.
So projectors need some rest.
The one thing that I want to sayabout projectors?
I'll give you their animal.
They're like a cat, and catsare very observant and kind of

(49:09):
just.
They have this aura of justbeing around you.
They're not always doing,they're not excited, they're not
jumping on your leg, they'renot scratching at the door to
get out for their walk like dogs.
Cats are just a little bit morechill, and that's what
projectors are.
Projectors their aura is veryfocused and penetrating.
They can see into other people.

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They really make wonderfulcoaches and guides, healers,
energy work because they seeinto other people.
They know others and they knowother people a lot better than
themselves.
They're can't really, they'renot as self-aware of who they
are, but they very much can seeinto other people.
So their strategy is to waitfor the invitation, which is

(49:56):
also something challenging toget your head around.
That has helped me a lot inbusiness.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I will say just you saying that, because I have a
lot of projectors on my team andit's like, okay, well, someone
said this to you.
Well then, just say that tothem, but they wouldn't if they
weren't invited.
It's like I have to understandif they're a projector, they're
waiting for the invitation.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Whereas I'm just in there like a dirty shirt saying
whatever I got to say.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yeah, yeah, so it's.
And the interesting thing aboutthat, waiting for the
invitation.
I'll give an example of the catagain.
But it doesn't mean that you'renot seen.
So, like in a businesssituation, because sometimes
projectors will think, oh, Ihave to wait to be invited to a
business meeting, to a call tobe, I can't apply for a job

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because I need to wait for themto invite me, but nobody's going
to invite you if they can't seeyou.
So projectors do need to be seen.
So showing what they love, whatthey're good at, what their
wisdom.
Like they can be seen, they canbe heard.
Like a projector could have apodcast, it's fine, nobody has
to invite them to have thepodcast.
But they can share their giftof speaking and their wisdom and

(51:03):
whatever.
And somebody else might invitethem then to speak at a
conference, invite them to be aone-on-one coach, invite them to
share more.
But you need to be seen still.
So it doesn't.
If you're a projector listeningto this, don't hide yourself
away and wait for the phone toring with people inviting you to
stuff.
You have to be seen.
So on social media, be seen,post things, do stuff.

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You don't have to wait to beinvited to show who you are
Right.
That makes sense, yeah, thatmakes sense.
The example of a cat.
I think a cat out of alignmentprojector cat out of alignment
kind of comes into the room andjumps right into your lap.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah, not typical.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
You're like I didn't invite you into my lap, Get off.
And you'd kind of just pushthem off Like that's annoying.
That's a projector cat out ofalignment.
A projector cat who is inalignment would just walk into
the room quietly, observe thesituation, hop up on the couch
sort of beside you, sit downuntil you notice them hurrying
beside you and then you'dprobably start to pet them and

(52:01):
then you'd invite them onto yourlap.
It's like you see them, yourespect their gift of softness
or whatever.
It is like you want to pet them.
They're just so calm and thenthey come onto your lap because
you invited them.
So, projectors, show whatyou're good at be seen and
people will invite you.
A really good quote forprojectors is I don't chase, I

(52:23):
attract.
What's meant for me will cometo me.
I mean, it's a quote that weall use sometimes, but it's
definitely for projectors.
You don't need to chase orforce or look needy.
One of the problems thatsometimes projectors can get
themselves into is unsolicitedadvice, because they're very

(52:43):
good at seeing into others.
They know what needs to be said, they know how to help their
friend with this relationshipissue.
But if the friend didn't askthem, they shouldn't just give
their advice unsolicited, Right?
So instead they could say hey,you know, I see you're
struggling, I hope you getthrough this.
Okay, If you ever need me, I'mhere.
And then they wait If thefriend doesn't call them and say

(53:07):
I'm glad you're here because Icould use your advice.
But if the friend just saidthanks, that's, that's no
invitation, so you don't giveyour advice until you're asked.
So what?

Speaker 1 (53:15):
about?
What does that mean for, say,the mani-gens like myself,
because I feel like I'm overhere giving advice all the time
when it's probably not offeredor asked for.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Well, it's not really out of your nature.
It would be.
It's not as much a problem fora mani-gen, it just doesn't come
off as wrong.
Okay, it's kind of like yourenergetic nature.
People would be like, oh cool,like yeah, because your aura as
a gen mani-gen is open andenveloping.
You're kind of like a warm hug.
So you almost invite people tocome and they wouldn't be
offended if you gave them advice.
It's all that how the energyworks.

(53:48):
But as a projector, the energyyou have is that you're sort of
probing.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Is that part of why?
And I don't know if this is amanifest or like a mani-gen
thing, but I mean, brian we werejust talking about this the
other day how I feel like I canmeet somebody and like within
five minutes they tell meeverything, like I feel like
probably, why does?
Everybody tell me everything soquickly.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yep, like a warm hug, I'm like a warm you are, it
could be deeper layers too, likeyou might have certain gates or
channels, that um, that havethe, the um energy of a listener
.
Okay, because sometimes that'swhen we have the gate of the
listener in our charts.
So it could be other things aswell.
But certainly you know you arelike a warm hug.
People will be drawn to justshare their life with you.
Okay, like you, it's justinteresting when you know that
it's kind other things as well.
But certainly you know you arelike a warm hug.
People will be drawn to justshare their life with you.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
It's just interesting when you know that it's kind of
like oh well, that makes maybemore sense.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Yeah, aren't you lucky.
So projectors make really goodhuman resources, people or you
know, because they can guidepeople into the right positions.
They can see what needs tohappen in a company, whereas
they don't necessarily shine asthe worker bees.
That's the gens, the mani gens.
We're good at getting more theenergetic stuff done.

(54:52):
The projectors are really goodat just seeing who needs to work
where and who would be a goodposition for this.
Who we should ask to do that?
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I love it.
Now we're on to the unicorn,aka the reflector.
All right, of it.
Now we're on to the unicorn,aka the reflector, if you are
listening to this and your chartsays you're a reflector.
You should reach out to us andlet us know.
I feel like I'm on the hunt allthe time for reflectors Doing
your work.
How often do you find them?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Not very often, but it was funny and I think you
were in that course.
I did a course not that longago and Brian was in there.
Then, um, a friend fromSaskatoon, connie, who you'd
know as well, was in there,reflector, and then one other
person joined him was reflector.
It was like a group of I don'tknow 20, maybe 30, women and or
people, and three of them werereflectors.
That's just like whoa, becausereflectors are one percent of

(55:39):
the population, so it's veryrare to have reflectors in a, in
a group, um.
So it's funny that when I firststarted doing human design, I
was so happy to find out Brianwas a reflector, because I could
always use him as an exampleand you knew him, so things like
you could connect the dotsTotally, and I could.
I could feel like reflector wasso valid, because everything I
found out about reflectors wasso Brian, yeah, like it just

(56:01):
really applied.
So yeah, so, 1% of thepopulation, like it just really
applied.
So yeah, so 1% of thepopulation, the animal, which I
think kind of helps us thinkabout them.
Sometimes people say they'relike a unicorn, because unicorns
are rare, but they're also likewoo-woo, make-believe.
A true animal is a chameleon,because a chameleon you put it
in one environment and it's acertain color.

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You put it on something else,it changes color.
It changes depending on itsenvironment and that's truly
what reflectors do, which is whyenvironment is so important for
reflectors.
If they are in a bad workenvironment or a bad home
environment, or, as a child, ifit's a classroom environment, or
maybe it's even their bedroom,if they don't like their bedroom

(56:43):
.
If it's not, it's so importantfor reflectors to be in the
right environment, around theright people, because that
affects them, because they haveall open centers.
They're constantly, you know,feeling things, sampling their.
Their energy is they samplethings and they know immediately
what feels good and whatdoesn't.
So reflector kids don't alwayshave the choice.

(57:06):
I mean, if you have a reflectorchild, listen to their cries
for change.
Like mom, I don't like myclassroom.
It just doesn't feel good.
Or you know just whatever it iswhen they go to a certain
person's house, I don't likegoing there, it doesn't feel
good.
Listen to that, because they'rejust pulling in energy from
around them and they're verysensitive.
I mean, brian would know he'ssampling all kinds of things and

(57:28):
you, you know what you like totaste and what you'd like to get
rid of, kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Does that relate to you?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah, very much so.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Anything you want to share.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Well, just I've had to learn to protect my energy a
lot.
So when I go in to someplace,it's yeah, like you said, I'm
not getting bombarded from everyangle.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Yeah, and it's.
I mean the idea of sampling,and that goes for anybody.
When you have open centers, youare sampling other people's
energy in those centers becauseyou don't emit it.
You're not broadcasting energyfrom a certain center, so you're
taking it in from others, butwith all of them open you know
that's a lot of sampling.
So the other thing you canthink about with reflectors is

(58:13):
if you put reflector beams, likeif all of Brian's centers were
now mirrors just reflecting backto people.
That's a unique thing to toknow about reflectors as well is
that you know that saying I'mnot crying, you're crying.
Well, brian could say that toeverybody.
He could just stand there andyou know, if you stood right in
front of him and he, he wascrying and you said, brian,

(58:35):
you're crying, and he could say,no, I'm not crying, you're
crying because he's reading itfrom you.
If you're angry.
He could say he's not reallyangry, brittany, you're angry.
The anger is coming out of yousomehow.
You might be trying to deny it,but he can feel it and he's
just reflecting it back to you.
This is what I'm.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I feel that, like in everyday life, just walking
around when I like run intosomeone, I feel like I can, I
can actually feel their energy.
And until I knew what thisreflector thing was through
human design, I was like, oh, oh, okay, this this makes more
sense, I'm not just like aweirdo.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Well, even like when I remember Peg, when Marty was
born and you saw all of ourcharts and you were like, oh,
ryan's going to need breaks fromyou too, because Marty's all
defined, his centers are justblasting at you 24, seven, and
yours are just wide open to takeit.
And I'm pretty defined too.
And so I had this quote, thing,that or this thing on the wall,

(59:40):
a quote that I gave you, and itsaid what, how does it?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
go into the forest, I go to lose my mind and find my
soul yeah, but I have found abetter saying yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yeah to vancouver island.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
And like he needs to be in nature, he needs to be
biking, he needs yeah, andthat's that's one of the things
about reflectors, too is theyhave a real relationship with
nature that most of us couldnever really understand.
That's where they don't have toabsorb human energy.
It's like absorbing energy ofnature, but it's much cleaner

(01:00:14):
kind of energy and it's notconflicting with anything within
brian, and it's also a greatplace to for them to cleanse out
their energy.
And again, for anybody withopen centers um, like, if you
have an open crown or ashton uptop, you're taking in other
people's ideas all day long atwork.
You need to flush those out too.
So I often tell peoplejournaling is a good way to get

(01:00:36):
ideas out of your head.
Close the book book, put itaway, like, just get rid of it
before bedtime, especially ifyou have trouble sleeping.
But for Brian getting out innature to clean all his centers,
it's just like it flushes.
Anytime you do an exerciseprogram, you're sweating.
That's getting energy outMeditation, breath, work.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
He does all of these things, Peg.
He meditates every day.
He does breath work.
He needs to be in nature likethis.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
It's so funny to me, yeah, and the interesting thing
too, and I think it's you know,as an adult too, brian probably
knew this a little bit and humandesign has probably just
solidified it.
But his centers are likesponges.
If it's good, if he wants tosponge in that energy, because
he's at a party and the energy'sup and he's feeling the joy and

(01:01:20):
he's taking it all in, great,he can take it in.
But his centers can also bereflectors pushing it back to
you.
That's not my energy.
What I'm sensing is anger, butit's yours, it's not on me.
I'm letting it go, sort of like, almost like a sieve too.
It could come in and go out.
I don't want to hold that.
And I think, for some people toowho are listening the word

(01:01:41):
empath we often think ofsomebody who's empathic.
You can really sense somebody'semotions or what they're going
through.
Well, it's kind of like Brianhas everything's empathic, his
whole, everything, all hiscenters.
He can feel people's stressfrom their root center.
He can feel their emotions fromtheir emotional center.
He can feel their life force.
You know, go, go, go energyfrom sacral, like he can feel it

(01:02:03):
all and so just taking it,sampling it, that's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I was kind of practicing this yesterday at
Costco.
Yeah, brittany took.
Marty to the bathroom and I wasstanding there with the cart
and I was just people watchingand I was just like, as every
person was kind of going by, Iwould just like look at someone
and just kind of, yeah, it'sliterally that sampling them
well, I always joke that he'sjudging like I feel like he

(01:02:28):
judges everybody.
I mean, I used to be very judgy.
I'm not even close to what Iused to be, but now I feel like
I'm I'm a little moreunderstanding, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Right, yeah, and it I mean yeah.
There's so much more going onwith people nowadays that yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
It's hard to not judge.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Energy can be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
There can be a lot of negative energy around us from
different things, but yeah, soinstead of judging, I'm just
more like oh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I'm just more like, oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, one of the things I wasgoing to say about Brian's
barometer thing.
So for him, good alignment,good frequency, when things are
great it's surprise and delight.
He can be delighted aroundenergy that's really good, and
he can be delighted in his timein nature too.
But he can be surprised bysomebody's good energy and
that's attractive and it keepshim high vibe.

(01:03:19):
But his other end isdisappointment, and oftentimes
reflectors can feeldisappointment because they can
see potential in other people.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
That's totally you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
And it's disappointing to see that person
not living into, you know,positive energy or lifestyle or
whatever it is that they can see.
So it's kind of disappointing.
It can be disappointing and Iknow for brian to big
relationship with nature and theearth.
It's very disappointing to seepeople not living up to our
potential when it comes toprotecting our earth.
Um, so it's just massive theglobal concept is is

(01:03:52):
disappointing as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Yeah, dude, I feel like you're gonna say something
uh, no, this is, this is alljust so spot on.
And looking back through mylife since I was a kid, it was
like I remember being like sevenyears old, worrying about the
earth in like around, I don'tknow, 1990, 89, somewhere in

(01:04:15):
there, and I was like weird andit's like little things right,
things right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Like we don't kill spiders, we capture them, take
them out.
What are we dealing with rightnow, brian?

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I caught nine mice in my garage this week.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Did he kill them?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
No, they're just little tiny creatures that are
in the wrong place.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
He hikes them all up to the forest and lets them go.
Did he sit them up in front ofhim and talk to them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Now, probably no, literally, I'll post a video.
The last one.
Oh yeah, we'll post a video,but yeah, it sat there and I
chatted with it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Who knew there was ethical mousetraps and we're
we're capturing them with oldHalloween candy.
Oh, they keep coming back forit, but it's like little things
like that, right?
Or picking things up whenyou're outside, and I think the
biggest um kind of joke thatsince we learned this, about him
specifically.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Is that his?
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
called strategy, or yes?
Yeah, don't talk about thatquickly, because this this makes
them pretty unique.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
I would say yes, so strategy for reflectors is also
similar to how they makedecisions, but it's to wait a
lunar cycle so, which is a longtime, to think about making
decisions and that sort of thing.
And I mean I know reflectorswho say that the more in touch
you get with your design, thefaster you can start to feel

(01:05:32):
into your decisions aboutcertain things, and you don't
need to wait 28 days to decideif you're having pizza for lunch
.
It's not those kinds of things.
But an analogy I love is tothink about the moon, because
waiting a lunar cycle, I oftensay to parents, is get your
child reflect your child, builda relationship with the moon and
even as an adult, build arelationship with the moon.

(01:05:54):
Because if you think about themoon going around the earth in
28 days, the moon has aperspective all the way around,
looking at the earth fromdifferent perspectives, and
that's kind of what you're doingfor 28 days.
If you need that long to make adecision or you know, whatever
it might be, is taking thosedifferent perspectives, seeing

(01:06:14):
it from different angles,different environments on a
different days, and then that'show you can kind of move through
life with decisions and things.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
So it doesn't all happen.
I just remember when, I thinkbecause I knew this when we came
out to Vancouver Island acouple summers ago yeah, and I
said like do you think we shoulddo this?
Like pull the trigger and justmove out here and normally
that's my wheelhouse to makethat decision, because I'm the
quick decision maker with thatgut feeling, and I think,
because your reaction was soinstant and I was so taken aback

(01:06:45):
because that's not normally himand he just said like yeah,
let's do it, like I've waited my.
And I was like whoa okay, likewe need business now, cause he
doesn't decide this fast.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I probably decided it hundreds of lunar cycles ago I
was gonna say it's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Maybe his energy was born for a moment such as that.
Like that, you know what?
That was the environment.
That was the environment thatjust went oh okay, I've arrived.
I finally arrived.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
We've landed I don't know if you know what I'm saying
, but I just thought of when shesaid that it was such an like
an epiphany second for me rightthere.
Well, because I travel a lotand Brian's always home, like
with Marty doing all the things.
He's like the best dad, thebest everything, but it's a lot
of energy for you, like thetoddler stage and the whininess
like really gets to this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
And it's way better when mom's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
He is better when I'm gone.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
For sure, I think that's a mom thing gone for sure
, I think that's a mom thing,that's a universal principle.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Yeah, we had a double birthday party last weekend and
a couple nights before I lookedat him in bed and I just said
do you want me to take him tothe birthday parties?
Like, I'll be home now and youcan just have a day for yourself
.
He goes, oh you have no idea howbad I need that it was like
this beast waiting to come outand I was like I feel so bad,
like you need to ask me if youneed a day, and that's the same

(01:07:58):
thing.
It was like, yeah, I get soshocked when he knows an answer
so quickly, because normally I'mbugging him saying, brian,
right, we don't have a lunarcycle to wait.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Like, give me an answer yeah, well, the cool
thing about when we moved here,though, is I found a friend.
Yeah, how about this?
Okay, this is, this is neat.
So, um, a guy, um moved herefrom saskatoon about a year and
a half before us, and our oldneighbor in saskatoon was like

(01:08:27):
hey, let's you know, talk to mybuddy, matt.
So I messaged matt and we wefound out we're born on the
exact same day, on the exactsame year, and we're both
reflectors that's crazy and likeI don't like surface level
conversations, oh, my god right

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
yeah, so I like I looked at my notes I thought
there's one thing I have to saybecause I think it applies to
brian is that small talk hedoesn't like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I'm not big into small talk like I'll.
I'm not gonna, you know, makesomeone feel bad if they're
doing small talk, but I just Ilike getting in, I like it.
I prefer to get into deepconversations with people and
with him it was just likeinstantly, before I even knew
our birthday stuff, it was justlike instantly, we're connecting
, we're talking.
I'm like this is, this isawesome.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
So yeah, cause when you asked me this year, who do
you want to spend more time withthis year?
And then I asked you thatquestion back Because to me I'm
like I think of all of this pool, of all of these people I would
love to spend time with in mylife and you're just like Matt
and who's basically you, butlike people that you don't have
to sit around and do small talkBecause that literally does
drive you mental.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
And he's going to be on the podcast as well here soon
.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Yes, you'll hear from another Reflector to reflector.
But it's so funny because whenI met his wife I was like, well,
I feel like we must have a lotin common or be something
similar, because we're marriedto these like unicorn men and
they're pretty special, I wouldsay so I love that.
Wow, we could do a whole.
I was like could we get intoprofile lines?

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
We definitely don't have time for that.
That might be like a part twopodcast.
That part I feel like is reallyfascinating too.
Yeah, that one's kind of a bitmore about personality and how
you learn and engage with people, so it's kind of interesting
for people usually.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Especially when you look at it with your family,
because, like, I'm a 2-4,brian's a 6-3, but then Marty's
a 4-6.
So we all have a little bit ofeach other.
One of them is more conscious,one is more unconscious.
So if you guys are listening tothis and you're thinking this
is cool, you want to know more,you're looking at your chart but
you don't really know how tolike read it.
That's where I would encourageyou guys to reach out to Peg.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
I think you got interested in more than one
reading like let me know,because I can sometimes do a.
You know, depending on how manypeople we want to do, do it as
a, as a reduced rate for forthat many people kind of thing.
But yeah, it's interesting andsometimes I've done readings for
someone who's a therapist andthen now they want and I'm
actually in the process ofputting together, um, a

(01:11:01):
self-directed course that peoplecan purchase and just do it to
learn more, all the layers,because she wants to use it in
her coaching practice.
She said it would save me a lotof time.
if I could just find people'shuman design before I sit down
for their first coaching session.
Um, because, as you know too,like in business, when you know
who, who you're working with, ithelps you plan some strategies
for that 100% how to approachthem.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
yeah, and one more thing I have to ask.
I feel like we should tell thepeople about your retreat, that
you just decided to do andyou're doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Yes, and I just decided to do it and I'm doing
it.
And it's funny because that'snot my strength is not wanting
to do the background part, like.
My strength is not wanting todo the background part, like
getting it organized and allthat, but I really just got to
the point where I could not waitany longer to just do something
, live like this.
So, yeah, I'm doing a retreatin Banff March 14th to 16th, and
so there is a link in my bioabout that as well.

(01:11:51):
But if you have questions,please reach out because there
are some options for staying atthe lodge house where we're
hosting the event and alsostaying on your own, because
there's some price differencesand we can work things out there
.
But yeah, it's going to begreat because it's kind of
combining all of my educationthings.
I love to do A little bit ofyoga, mindset, breath work,

(01:12:11):
self-awareness and discovery.
So it'll be a lot of, you know,personal growth, but with a
huge chunk of it being aboutenergetics and talking about
human design and some of thestuff we've been talking about
here today.
But you know, in an in-personsession, I just love the idea
that we can bounce ideas backand forth.
People can ask questions.
We can talk about relationshipsand stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
So yeah, I love it.
I love that you're doing that.
I wish it worked out better forme, because I'd love to come,
so you'll have to do another oneor come to the island and we'll
do one here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Well, yes, well, you can help me plan one there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Yeah, because I just you guys, if you have a chance
to be your own peg, you need tobe.
I feel like there's no one thatmeets peg.
That is like I don't like her,like everybody loves peg.
It's true.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I'm not lying, she's a bubbly ball of positive energy
, yeah, and just well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Thank you, I don't know.
I'm just so grateful we finallygot this done and it can be out
there to help more people andhopefully to connect more people
to human design, because I dothink, like as cliche as it
sounds, we can slowly change theworld if we understand who our
true, authentic selves are allsupposed to be and stop molding
us and fitting us into boxes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Exactly I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I just want to say like okay, so people listen to
all this info.
I just want to say like okay,so people listen to all this
info.
What is like one way thatsomeone can integrate something
they've learned here into theirlives?
Or like maybe each type haslike a certain thing and that's
what you should integrate today?
That's a good question, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Yeah, I think one of the big ones, like for 70% of
the population, is start totrust your gut.
Like those gens and mani genshave got to start getting in
touch with their gut.
And the thing withrelationships too is like gens
and mani gens respond to yes, noquestions that our sacral says
yes, it says no.
So if somebody asks me, theexample I often give is like in

(01:13:52):
the morning, what, what do youwant for supper?
I'm like I don't know.
Supper is hours and hours awayand it's just a broad topic.
I don't know If they said doyou want to go out for supper?
Yes, no, yes, I do.
Or maybe I say no, no, I don't.
My gut says not really.
I want to be in my pajamas.
I'm thinking in my head I justwant to come home.
Do you want me to bringsomething home?

(01:14:13):
Yes, do you feel like Thai orItalian, this or that?
My sacred can make a decision.
I feel like something spicy.
Let's go Thai.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
So Brian needs to ask yes or no questions to me and
Marty.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Yes or no questions, and I do.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
I do that with Marty because I know that from you and
it's like I forgot that.
That's where I learned it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
So when you're getting him dressed, do you want
to put your pants on first oryour shirt?
Not do dressed?
Which one of these things?

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
even could trick his brain a little bit.
Put your pants on first, oryour socks.
Yeah, brian, don't tell him towear a Bob Marley shirt.
You should have seen this theother morning.
You were getting all hisfrustration because you were
acting like the toddler.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I'm like it's Bob Marley's birthday.
We need to honor Bob Marley.
I'm wearing my Bob Marley shirt.
You need?

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
to too.
He's like no, I don't want to,and I'm like I'm not fighting.
Let him put on whatever hewants, Like he is a mani-gen.
We're not telling him what todo.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Yeah, yeah.
So I think for gens andmani-gens, basically, it's
learning to trust your sacral.
Yeah For reflectors.
Think about your environments.
You, like you know just theenvironment that you're in is so
important for you, I think,with all the energy types, is
trust, trusting yourself.
We don't listen to ourselves.
It's like we said at thebeginning, brian, that internal,

(01:15:23):
we're always looking forexternal validation.
What would somebody else do, orwhat should I do, what do I
want to do, what do I feel in mybody, what's my heart's desire?
And we can do another podcast,I guess, on profiles and also
authorities, like how we makedecisions.
But decisions should always bemade from a feeling in your body
.
It's either your intuition orit's your gut instinct or it's

(01:15:44):
your heart's desire.
But trusting your body and howwe feel we're so out of touch
with our bodies and that's whereyou know we'll be doing a
little bit of that at theretreat as well some somatic
work.
It's just connecting peopleback to their bodies and not
being stuck up in our heads andsocial media and thoughts and
beliefs limiting this and we'reso trapped.
We need to get in touch withour bodies again because that

(01:16:08):
will guide us through life somuch more effectively and
authentically than listening tothe crazy thoughts between our
brain that we're conditionedbetween.
The ages of zero and seven iswhen most of our brain
processing gets lodged in thereand it sticks.
We have to fight to get it out.
Yeah, Agreed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
This was such a good episode.
I know it was long.
You guys Thanks for stickingwith us till the end, but I feel
like this is so beneficial.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Yeah, and it's just like this is very surface level
still too.
This goes really really deep.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
So I would definitely reach out to Peg Because don't
you think, since we learnedabout it, it's been something I
feel like we talk about almostdaily.
Or I'm telling someone about itor I'm bringing it up, or I'm
thinking about some aspect of it, like it's a very much a part
of our life or you're making funof him, okay, you reflector.
I got leverage.
I can really make fun of himnow.
That's so funny.
He's not wrong.
But thanks, Peg, for being here.

(01:17:01):
Is there anything else you wantto say before we end this today
?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
I don't think so.
Just thanks for letting me comeon and chat with you guys.
It's been fun and I think wecould chat forever and ever we
probably could.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
We will maybe do a part two when you have the
opening again.
Let us know if you'd like tohear part two or uh, what you
think about human design.
We'd love to hear from you, butgo another layer deeper.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Yeah, thanks everybody for listening.
Okay, appreciate you, peg.
Stay awesome, everybody later.
Bye.

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