August 16, 2024 • 30 mins
Join us on a heartfelt and enlightening journey as we share our 7 month experience of abstaining from alcohol. Sparked by a symbolic moment in Hawaii, combined with an internal struggle and a recent exploration of plant medicine, we reassessed our relationship with drinking. We emphasize the importance of self-awareness and mutual support, highlighting how loving yourself and each other can create healthier habits.
Reminisce with us about our early encounters with alcohol, from childhood memories to high school antics. We reflect on how drinking influenced our lives and families, recounting both amusing and regrettable moments. We share some personal stories that shed light on the broader impact of alcohol, providing a closer look at how it effects us.
Lastly, we delve into the societal and environmental implications of alcohol consumption. Questioning its alignment with individual values and health, we reveal how alcohol can disconnect us from reality and higher consciousness, leading to various negative outcomes. This thought-provoking conversation challenges societal norms and encourages self-assessment.
Tune in for a transformative discussion that might make you rethink your next drink!
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
you're listening to the love movement with your
hosts britney and brian johnston.
We're starting a movementcentered around love to help
raise the vibration of thisbeautiful planet if that's your
vibe, hang out with us as wechat about many topics all
centered around three mainpillars Loving yourself, loving
each other and loving the planet.
So if you're ready, let's jumpin.
(00:30):
Okay, so today on the podcast,we're going to talk about
alcohol, a topic that I didn'tthink we'd really ever talk
about, and the title of this isyou know, is it a problem or is
it a habit, which is really acool perspective to look at this
from.
So, before we get into anythingthat we want to talk about
today, I just have to say wehave zero judgment.
(00:52):
Like this is not.
Like because we've chosen tonot drink the last seven months
at the time of this recordingdoesn't mean like we have it all
figured out, or we're going tostick to this, or we're better
than the next person Like.
I think everybody has their ownexperience with alcohol.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You can't judge when with love right.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That's right.
You can't judge with love, andthis is kind of, like you know,
with our podcast, we like to putit in the pillar of is this
about loving yourself, lovingeach other, loving the planet?
I think this is both aboutloving yourself and loving each
other.
So keep that on the back ofyour mind as we kind of talk
about this today.
But so whether you're listeningto this and you do or you don't
drink, it doesn't matter, right?
We're just going to share ourstory about kind of where we're
(01:31):
at right now and a bit of likeperspective, I guess you could
say.
So, like I said, we'recurrently seven months into no
drinking and I will definitelysay neither of us had a problem
with drinking.
But, brian, why don't you sharelike, why did we decide to do
this?
Because I feel like it wasn'treally a decision.
I made it, you started it, Ijust followed, yeah, so we were.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We were in hawaii and in january in january and the
tradition is, you know, you getto hawaii, you go to the store,
you get some drinks, bring back,you know, hotel room and now
you got your drinks for the week.
You know, at the pool, it's,it's a vibe.
You're listening to good musicat friends, you're, you're
drinking right and I have thisspecial cup.
My sister-in-law got us yetis.
(02:12):
Yeah, a little sweet yeti mug.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Um, I drink a lot I got a teal one, you got a black
one.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It goes on every holiday with me it's my
designated drinking cup but umat.
So while we were there um, Iforgot my cup at the beach so we
went on.
It was like I don't know, 25minutes away from the hotel, go
to the beach, come back and getback to the hotel and I'm like
(02:40):
where's my cup?
I can't find my cup and I turnsout I lost a whole bag because
we drove back to see if it wasthere drove back to the beach,
went to get the the stuff and Igrabbed the bag was there and I
picked it up, brought it up tothe car and I looked and someone
literally stole one thing outof the bag and it was my yeti
cup, my well-used yeti cup.
Stickers all over it like likewhat, and this was a.
(03:04):
It was like a sign because deepdown, for I would say years, I
felt like it just wasn't servingme and I didn't want to drink
and I just, I just felt stupidbecause I had this like internal
thing where it's like, if youwant to do your best and feel
(03:25):
your best, why would you impairyourself?
Yeah, you know, why would youlike slowly poison yourself
every, every weekend?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And I will say you never once voiced this to me.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, this is like a hundred percent internal and
this was like a conflictingintention that I've had for
years, that I didn't want todrink and it just I.
Just the cup was gone and I waslike I just felt freed almost.
I was like, hey, it's a sign.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Because, remember, I was like, do you want me to buy
you a new one?
Yeah, and you were just like no, you never really explained,
you guys, if you don't know,brian, everything is like an
internal thought and in humandesign he's a reflector which is
1% of the population.
That's for another podcast.
But he like takes a lunar cycleto make decisions.
So clearly he's with his ownthoughts for a long time before
he decides anything, which iswhy I never know what's going on
(04:15):
.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So the weird thing that I think also helped me with
this and I've talked aboutmushrooms lots, but mushrooms
really, really help people withaddiction and breaking habits.
And you know neuroplasticity,you know new brain patterns
happening and I was just at likemy beginning of stages of
(04:38):
exploring you know plantmedicine with mushrooms and so
all this happened like at thesame time, like I think I did,
like a, like a like like ajourney, like a week or two
before this happened I think itwas december 21st is when I did
like one of my first mushroomjourneys and then this was like
(05:03):
two, three weeks later thishappened.
So I had a lot of the mushiesare in my head already doing
their magic as they do.
But yeah, it was just one ofthose things.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I don't even know when it was that.
You were just at home in thekitchen, you were like I haven't
drank in this long, I swear.
It was like two months orsomething, yeah.
And I was like, oh wait, asecond that I don't think I've
drank in two months either, likeI didn't even know that's how
much I don't drink.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I didn't give anybody and it was like once we every
voice said I was like game onand then I was like, okay, now
this is a competition and I likea good competition.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So then we just haven't drank and I you know,
with different events and thingsthat you go to, like normally
you're offered wine or whateverand I just it's like I'm not
drinking and people can't makeyou know before they'd be like,
oh, you're pregnant, like no,everybody knows we're one and
done, that's behind us.
So like this is just a choice.
Now, which is also such astupid thing, that the minute
you say, as a woman, I'm notdrinking, people immediately
(05:57):
assume you're pregnant.
Yeah, I will just say, as awoman, that's annoying off
tangent um, but yeah, I feellike the other thing we were
talking about was like it's sucha low vibration and this
podcast we're about raising thevibration.
Yeah, let's go.
And I we were talking aboutvegas because with my company,
we're at a global conventionevery year in vegas and I
(06:18):
literally hate going there yeah,I actually got invited to go to
vegas.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Uh, last week my friend he's like you want
tickets to go to this thing inVegas?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
This is the first I'm hearing about this.
You guys Prime example of menot knowing Vegas.
I was going to tell you aboutit.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But anyway, I was just like no.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You're like, I live on Vancouver.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Island, why would I go to Vegas?
Yeah, no, that's not my jamanymore.
20 years ago maybe.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, but not even there, Like they're out of their
mind half the time.
But like so much smoking, somuch drinking, like sex alcohol
all the thing, gambling Like.
I'm just not.
It's not my vibe, it's grossanyway.
That's why I think you know welove living on vancouver island.
It's more of of our vibe,absolutely.
Um, okay, what, what have you?
(07:12):
Let's start with this first.
Actually growing up like whatwas your experience with alcohol
?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
uh well, my dad didn't really drink, so it
wasn't a big thing in my house.
Um, my mom didn't really drinklike they would have.
They would have some drinks,but it wasn't a big thing in my
house.
Um, my mom didn't really drinkLike they would have.
They would have some drinks,but it wasn't it was never like
a thing there wasn't like oh, wegot to go, get to the liquor
store and get some booze.
Like it wasn't.
I wasn't anything like that.
Um, I had.
My grandpa, though, was a bigalcoholic, like you see him with
(07:40):
a coffee cup in his hand andit's straight up, vodka.
He definitely, definitely,definitely had a problem with
that.
I definitely had, uh, somefamily that had some some
problems with that.
Um, some of my parents friendsI like at a young age, like you
know, you just go, you just bearound people that are
alcoholics at a young age, notknowing everything about it.
(08:05):
You people that are alcoholicsat a young age not knowing
everything about it.
You know it's not cool, youjust, you just feel it like
these people like this is gross,yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And then like leading into when you started, like how
old were you when you starteddrinking?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
um, probably high school, and I think it was more
of a thing just to fit intotally, which I think it is
with most kids but it becomes athing where it's like every
weekend you're out going toparties and getting wasted.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's like the goal and it's so ridiculous when you
think of it yeah, but you gofrom.
Like we have a three and a halfyear old and it's like going to
play dates and playing with yourfriends to like, let's get out
of our minds loser drunk likewhen, where does that happen?
And playing with your friendsto like, let's get out of our
minds.
Loser drunk like when, wheredoes that happen?
Like, think about it.
It's actually crazy because Iremember probably my first times
being drunk and I was drinkingsome disgusting cooler out of
(08:54):
like the giant clear bottle,like what is that?
A two liter, four liter,whatever those sizes, and it was
so sweet and gross.
But I remember just beingbecause I'm such a lightweight
when it comes to alcohol and I'mpretty sure I'm allergic to it
like I turn red and blotchy andlike you just gotta drink,
that's your body just saying,hey, this isn't good this isn't
for you, but just do it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'd be like, oh, just drink through it.
When you get an allergicreaction to anything else in
your life, you're like, oh man,this really affects me, like I
should probably stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But with alcohol it's like, just keep going, keep
going and I remember just likefalling down a flight of stairs
and I remember sometimes justbeing like I was sleeping, like,
oh my god, I was sleeping likejust totally blocked out, or
like then I'm just puking, sickand dry, heaving from like the
depths of my soul, yeah, andthen I'm so sick the next day.
(09:42):
We don't have time for this,but like remember when we were
in costa rica in circa 2009 awhole day lost because, because
your friends wanted you to drinkmore.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And I was like you guys know she's got to stop and
you're like we've been socontrolling.
I'm like you don't know herlike I do this is not good, and
then it just yeah no, it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It's not even a little bit worth it to me and I
don't obviously for me too, likesame.
I don't remember, like growingup, that it was like an issue in
my, in my household there was.
I remember there was being beerand like Friday night after
work, like you know, my dadlikes a cold pilsner and I
remember my stepmom would drinkit in a glass and she put
peanuts in it and I don't knowwhy.
(10:19):
I remember that interesting.
I also remember being a littlekid when I lived with my grandma
and thinking that there was aglass of water and going to have
some and it was vodka and justthinking like, oh good thing I
didn't drink that.
Somebody warned me.
But like why was there vodka ina glass also?
You know, yeah, it probablywasn't just pure vodka, but that
(10:40):
was my memory as a little child.
And then, yeah, same as you,just like trying fit in, trying
to be part of the cool crowd,but realizing how like it
affected me so much.
Like my friends would joke thatBrittany just needs to sniff a
bottle cap and she'll be drunk,and I don't really like the
taste of alcohol, like I hatebeer, I hate wine.
I try all the time to like wine,because it's like bougie and
(11:01):
fancy.
Apparently, every time youwanted a drink, it had to be
like a drink that was straightup sugar.
Yeah, I like a caesar, but Ialso like it just as good
without the alcohol.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, so basically give me the salt and the pickle,
some tomato juice yeah, sowhere do you want to go next
with this Cause?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
we had a few thoughts in terms of um well, how, how
has alcohol affected?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
um well, you not so much, but maybe those around you
like.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I think we all have a story about someone, something,
Well, I mean, like in my familytoo, like extended family,
obviously there's for sureissues with alcohol.
Um, have you know, even been torehab?
Some have not been and somehave relapsed and some have, you
know, kept on without it.
(11:53):
I just I don't really rememberit like affecting me that bad
and I certainly never had anykind of like issue.
That's why it's weird when yousaid to me well, what did you
notice about not drinking?
It's like nothing other than Ihave to like think about saying
no thank you when someone offersme one yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, how about someone have you had anyone who
know, anyone who's like died ina car crash from alcohol related
, or?
Or is there someone I guess Ido you know whose actions are?
It's not affecting you in likeyour health per se, but it's
(12:35):
going, it's coming into yourlife somehow and affecting you,
like like someone has a problemthe whole family is trying to
deal with something.
Oh my god it's stressingeveryone out like it's affecting
you that way.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, and I do have like a friend who
definitely died in high schooland it was.
I mean, any accident that I canthink of from high school was
always drinking was involved.
Especially being in small, likerural towns was just what you
did, not that I did, and I wasalways like the don't get in the
car with somebody drinking anddriving.
What do you think about whenyou think of that?
(13:08):
I definitely or what are yourexperiences being like?
Mine's just kind of likewhatever I'm trying to fit in, I
don't really do it.
Yeah, so not doing it, I don'treally notice anything, but
that's not really not that youhad a problem, but you're
noticing more like what was itlike in high school when you
would drink, for example?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I was just stupid, like going to class next day
hungover trying to do you know,your work and you just you're
not there and it's yeah, it'sjust, it's not cool.
And I've gone to work hungoverin the past at a desk job and I
even went and slept under thestairs.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I literally remember that day.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, horrible.
Like why did you employ me ifthat's how I was?
It was unbelievable the stuffI've done.
Why did you employ me if that'show it was?
It was unbelievable the stuffI've done.
Like some of the stupidestthings I've ever done in my life
were when I was drinking likeshameful, regrettable,
embarrassing things.
If I think back to all thethings that happened in my life
where I just didn't feel goodabout myself, they were all
(14:07):
related to alcohol, like whatWas there any of those you want
to share?
um, I was arrested once fun factfor anybody that doesn't know,
brian actually I was arrestedtwice, oh my god.
One was, yeah, I was drinkingat drinking at a party and ended
up getting loser drunk, passout in a park and the cops
(14:30):
arrested me and they brought me.
They asked if I wanted to go tothe drunk tank or home and I
went home and my dad pulled upat the house the same time as me
, right in front of the cop car,like cop car, my dad's car,
nose to nose, and I get out ofthe car in handcuffs.
I was like, hey dad, how oldwere you.
I probably would have been 17.
No no 16 I will literally killour son if this happens.
(14:52):
And then another time I got uharrested and I got a ticket
because uh drinking in publicgoing to a big party and uh had
a beer in my hand and the copseen me and tried to hide it and
yeah, so interesting when youthink back to that, because it
just like we're so not thesepeople anymore no, and maybe
(15:15):
that's why because you've grownand evolved and done so much
personal growth and developmentthat like that was just like
this one last piece of thepuzzle that just didn't align
with, like who you are and whoyou're becoming yeah, a lot of
people go through that.
Like there's politicians who andpeople that are like high up in
like government that have likestupid things like this.
Like everyone has some stupidthings.
Some of the most amazing peopleI've met in our life have
(15:35):
stories like this from when theywere young, right when I think
about, like, why even did Idrink?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why did I not notice that we weren't drinking?
It's because, like, we alwayshave a Friday night date night,
and I mean prior to having ourson, that was like very much in
our calendar.
Friday nights were date nightand most of those nights we
loved going into our basementbecause we had newly renovated a
really awesome sound system.
We loved watching movies downthere and the back of it had
like a big bar which I'm surepeople came over and saw it
would think like, oh, thesepeople actually love to drink.
(16:01):
It was more for the aestheticof what it looked like, yeah,
but at the same time it wasthere in front of you and you're
really good at making amargarita.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, yeah, the funny thing about the bar like your
environment is going to affectthe outcome.
So when you have something likethat plain sight all the time
looking at you, and there's likea.
You know there's a thing to it.
Like you watch movies andpeople are having you know fancy
bottles, you know having ascotch like it's just like a
(16:32):
thing.
It becomes so normalized insociety that and now you, you
walk down to this bar and you'relike, oh, I can have a drink
any time of day and you juststart drinking because it's
right there in front of you.
Yeah, and then we, we moved, wegot rid of, we left all our
booze behind.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
We didn't have moving company wouldn't take the
alcohol, so we just like left,left it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I could have moved it , but we left it behind and we
got to the island and we had.
We didn't have any booze, so Iwas.
It's easy not to drink when youdon't have it.
It's easy not to eat a donutwhen you don't have it, like
it's Right, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And then eventually we had some company over and
they wanted some drinks.
We start drinking a little bit,building up our little
inventory a little bit again.
Yeah, a little cupboard alittle above the fridge stocking
, you know, stocking your booze.
I like amaretto a lot, withcoke zevia at christmas time.
Um, yeah, it just like itbecomes a habit.
It's like when I when I askmyself, why did I even drink?
It's not because I it, it's notbecause of how it made me feel,
it's not, it's literally ahabit.
Yep, it was a habit aroundChristmas.
It was a habit in the summer.
It was a habit at events.
(17:36):
It was a habit on a Fridaynight, like, and your habits is
what determines your lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So what?
What can people do to replacethat habit?
What can people do to replacethat habit?
What can they drink somethinginstead?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well, we drink a lot of kombucha, a lot of fizz
sticks.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
There's a lot of other options you can drink.
There's so many Drinking.
Not drinking is like the newdrinking.
I agree.
There's so many non-alcoholicoptions out there.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
The other day, my friend brought over for my
birthday a bottle of I thoughtit was wine, and I was like, oh,
did I not really tell her thatI wasn't drinking?
And I didn't want to be rude.
So I was kind of just like, oh,thank you, I'm going to accept
the wine and just save it forguests and just serve it, like I
used to host events all thetime in the house called Wine
and Wonder, like I-alcoholic.
(18:27):
This wine she brought and I waslike, oh, I forgot, she's also
not drinking and I'm.
We must have had theconversation where she knew I
wasn't drinking.
And so here I have thisnon-alcoholic, beautiful looking
bottle of wine.
We're going away this weekendand you're like, are we gonna
ever drink this?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm like let's bring it on the weekend yeah, I'll
bring some grape juice,basically put it in a fancy wine
glass like why does?
It need to be alcohol yeah butthere it shows like you're who
you hang out with affects youknow what you do.
Well, and you become.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You become the average of the five people you
surround yourself with the most.
And it was funny because we hadfriends around the weekend and
brian made them a margarita andI was a little jealous because,
like, I know how good yourmargaritas are, yeah.
But it was funny because hesaid, um, we had kind of told
him that we weren't drinkingwhen he'd offered some to us a
couple of weeks ago andapparently we were like a little
bit inspiring with our storythat he was like I haven't even
(19:14):
drank since you guys told methat you were drinking.
And I think sometimes that'spart of why I thought we should
do this podcast, becausesometimes people just need
another perspective of like,maybe I'm just going to try not
doing it and I'm not going tosay we're never going to have a
drink again, like, and I'm notgoing to say we're never going
to have a drink again, like,maybe we'll go back to Hawaii
(19:35):
next year and we'll have a drink, I don't know, but right now
we're just going to try to gothrough the whole year and see
if we can do it.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well, I feel like it's just easy.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I just don't want it, but I'm just drinking kombucha,
yeah, so that's like an easyreplacement.
I feel like kombucha is.
It was great yeah, and it'slike no big deal, they can have
a drink, we can have a kombucha.
Like why can't it be what'sright for you?
Like it doesn't need to bejudgy or all the same, or you
know.
But it's just sort of like,yeah, looking internally and
(20:03):
like does this does it feel inalignment to you when you are
drinking, or are you drinkingout of habit?
And that's really why.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah.
So it's like take, if you takean inventory of your life, like
where did alcohol in the pastadd value to your life and where
did it negatively affect you?
Well, I think we all know whatside of the scale alcohol is
going to fall on.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
When you look around people, let you know too, like
alcohol literally is ruiningpeople's lives.
It's ruining relationships.
I feel like it's leading into alot of the growth.
It's like easier just to numband to like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Just sort of well it's like puts up like a curtain
in front of like reality.
Right it actually.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It lowers your vibration where it actually,
like disconnects you from likedivine consciousness, if we get
into that at some point but, ifyou're, if you're on that route
like, it lowers your vibrationso much that you're not even in
touch with like unified fieldanymore, if you don't what I'm
talking about that's cool andlike, it's such an interesting
(21:10):
way to look at it too, and Ithink, um, you know, if you are
somebody that does drink, it'slike just ask yourself why like,
and if it feels good, I guess,keep doing it.
And if it doesn't like,challenge yourself like we are,
maybe yeah.
What?
What?
A month or six months or a yearof just not doing it?
You know, there's a part of methat thinks like if you're
(21:31):
somebody that's like, oh well, Idon't have a problem.
Well then, not drinking for ayear should be easy.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But it's your habit.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It's a habit, though I know Um cause.
Sometimes I think too like arewe just avoiding the things we
need to address in our life, orare we like actually addressing
them by not numbing ourself allthe time?
Anyway, I listened to this.
Will you send it to me, AYouTube video that we can maybe
share in the show notes?
Um, it was a motivational videoand the very beginning of it
(21:58):
said that the most damaging drugto society as a whole is
alcohol 100 agree which I waslike what.
There's like way worse drugs outthere, but apparently not no
because it's accepted, it's soldat stores.
The government you know you havegovernment liquor stores right
right, yeah, and it said inthere that alcohol is considered
(22:18):
a class one carcinogen orcancer causing agent.
Well, I'm not really outlooking for those things in my
life.
I'm trying to do everything Ican to avoid that.
Yeah, um, it's in the samecategory as benzene and tobacco
smoke.
If you know, me and brian arethe biggest anti-smokers ever.
We won't probably do a podcast.
No, there's no point.
(22:40):
Um, but basically, the poisonin alcohol, which is the sedal
alcohol itself, is what leads tothe effects of being inebriated
or drunk.
Poison is making us feel likethat.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
It is poison and it's just like I had to think of it
differently, like I'm slowlypoisoning myself.
Every time I drink, I'm slowlypoisoning myself.
I'm like that does not soundlike something I want to do.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So I was just like I don't know there's just at the
end of the day, just it's notadding value, it doesn't feel in
alignment for us at this time,right, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
It was just something I thought we could chat about
because it's an interestingtopic yeah, like like you could
go do a Google search on thebenefits of quitting and do a
Google search on the risks andyou're going to find stuff like
yeah, carcinogen cancer, how itaffects like every organ and one
(23:33):
of the big things is itmassively affects your digestion
and your microbiome.
Your microbiome is, like,related to your overall physical
and mental health, so it's likea double whammy.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well to me.
I just feel like too.
I'm like I represent a healthand wellness company.
I don't feel an alignment whenI'm drinking.
No, and that's just somethingyou got to look at yourself to
see.
Like do you?
Because maybe the next person,they don't feel like that.
That's just how I feel.
So it feels good that I justthat I'm not drinking, but it's
also really easy for me to notdrink.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, you know, and like in a, in a world where
everyone is always so stressedwith everything, alcohol raises,
like your baseline cortisollevel, which is directly related
to stress, so it's almost likeone of those things are oh yeah,
I need to drink to de-stress,but you're doing the opposite
yeah, it's you're.
(24:27):
You're making it worse, you'restressing your body.
Yeah, um, yeah, what you?
What did you ask me earlier?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
what, uh, some of the things that I noticed right,
because I didn't really noticeanything, because, like, it's
not really a thing for me.
But what did you notice?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I never did drink a lot.
So I guess the first thing is Inever felt guilty and regretful
anymore because every time Idrank I felt guilty for doing it
because I knew it wasn't inalignment and I felt regretful
the next day because I'd justdone something stupid that I
didn't want to do, so I didn'thave that anymore, so that's
(25:04):
good.
Um, I say mood is overall better.
Um, sleep is huge.
Like you, you have one drinkand like I, wear a smart watch
when I sleep and you can trackyour sleep cycles, how deep you
go, like all that stuff.
Have one drink and watch whatyour sleeps look like.
Horrible, horrible sleeps and Inoticed so interesting I noticed
(25:25):
when, uh, I had a drink, mybaseline heart rate in my sleep
was usually about 20 beats perminute.
More.
That's crazy it's like mybody's trying to pump my blood
faster to well because youpoisoned it to filter it all out
, to get it out of my body'strying to pump my blood faster
to well because you poisoned itto filter it all out to get it
out of my system so you'rehurting your liver like what I
remember.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Actually, now they're saying that what did I notice?
Whenever I would have a drinklike even the other night when
they came over and had yourmargaritas I thought to myself
one thing I don't miss is, asI'm getting ready for bed and
we're, you know, putting thedishes by the sink and stuff is
I don't feel like I have shrekfeet.
Oh yeah, like I would be soswollen in my body, like the
inflammation, not the good kindof swole the inflammation was
(26:06):
like yeah, something I did notlove, yeah and I think overall
clear thinking is another one.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Um, and saving a lot of money.
I mean, you're buying kombuchas, but it's still cheaper than
you can't.
You just can't put a price onmoney.
I mean, you're buying kombuchas, but it's still cheaper than
you can't.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You just can't put a price on your health, though you
really can't, and I was talkingto a friend today that was, um,
just on the tail end of beingsick, and I just said you know
what is true, nothing else inlife matters, nothing else.
Like we just got a new car,move to a new place, you can
have your brand new house, allwhatever you think, but if you
don't have your health, likeliterally none of it matters.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, and when you drink you're actually
suppressing your immune systems.
You're going to get sicker more, Like I don't know.
You can go to Google search allthe risks and benefits of not
drinking.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So I would say just a little bit of a like call to
action if you're listening stillto our ramble chat on this is
just do some inventory withyourself and like check in and
say like, does it feel inalignment?
Is it something I just feeltotally fine if I continue on,
or is it something you want tokind of challenge yourself with
and see, like, can you go alittle bit of time without it
and see how you feel, see whatyou notice?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I mean another, another thing when we talk about
, you know, our three lovepillars is um loving each other
like this.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Alcohol really, really affects relationships in
a big way we really don't fightbut I will say any fights that
we've had, even drinking yeah,like I said, stupidest,
shittiest, most regretfulmoments I've had in my life is,
and not that you're like anangry drunk.
You're just like an annoyingdrunk.
He gets so chatty.
I make fun of him like notbeing chatty, but then he drinks
(27:38):
and it's like lispy chatty, Ithink yeah, because my thoughts
are always so internal.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I think it just makes those internal thoughts
external.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, there's a lot of benefits to that.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Anyway, I'm loving this new us that's not drinking
and yeah, it's not.
We're not judging anyone, we'rejust sharing our experience and
it's.
It's been amazing and I thinkeveryone should, should try it
Like I've tried it before in thepast.
Yeah, you have.
When I was doing reallycompetitive mountain biking I
(28:13):
was like no, no alcohol, becauseI know it affects me.
Duh.
Yeah, and that's when I was atmy absolute peak physical
performance.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So you really do notice that affects you
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And then it was like, hey, in the fall, mountain
biking's done, we'll be inMexico.
Then, like, turn on thedrinking machine again.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's so wild.
Yeah, so we're heading to CostaRica and then back to Maui for
our one year Kind of full circlemoments.
I guess We'll see what that'slike being sober vacations.
I wouldn't have my cup, sothose are our first total sober
vacations, but like, let'sexperience that it's going to be
great, yeah.
So love yourself, love eachother and love the planet.
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Actually while we're talkingabout loving the planet.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This does relate, actually, this actually does
relate.
How many beer cans you thinkyou find on the side of the road
?
Yeah, when you're drunk anddrinking a whatever pack, yeah
drinking a 12 pack of uh beer,but no one's going to be
drinking a 12 pack of kombuchasdrinking one why is alcohol like
that?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
like you would never sit down and drink a case of pop
either.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
If you drink pop, no, but you would sit down and have
drink after drink, after drinkwith some pop true but yeah,
it's weird.
So, yeah, you got all the uh,the garbage that comes with
drinking.
And then just think of all thecrops that are grown
specifically for beer Like youknow, you got barley, so you got
(29:44):
whiskey like all thesedifferent crops that are grown
specifically to make alcohol.
That could be growing food forpeople and nourishing them, but
it's.
Think about all the vineyards,yeah all the vineyards, oh, but
a good wine tour is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I mean, people do love their wine tours.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, but just get all that land.
Just think of you couldactually think of the global
scale of it how much land isactually taken up to grow crops
for alcohol when it could be fornourishing food.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Alcohol is just such a thing that is so widely
accepted hey.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's sad we do without it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So love the planet and drink one kombucha, not a
12-pack of beer.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Exactly, Stay awesome everybody.
you're listening to the love movement with your
hosts britney and brian johnston.
We're starting a movementcentered around love to help
raise the vibration of thisbeautiful planet if that's your
vibe, hang out with us as wechat about many topics all
centered around three mainpillars Loving yourself, loving
each other and loving the planet.
So if you're ready, let's jumpin.
(00:30):
Okay, so today on the podcast,we're going to talk about
alcohol, a topic that I didn'tthink we'd really ever talk
about, and the title of this isyou know, is it a problem or is
it a habit, which is really acool perspective to look at this
from.
So, before we get into anythingthat we want to talk about
today, I just have to say wehave zero judgment.
(00:52):
Like this is not.
Like because we've chosen tonot drink the last seven months
at the time of this recordingdoesn't mean like we have it all
figured out, or we're going tostick to this, or we're better
than the next person Like.
I think everybody has their ownexperience with alcohol.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You can't judge when with love right.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That's right.
You can't judge with love, andthis is kind of, like you know,
with our podcast, we like to putit in the pillar of is this
about loving yourself, lovingeach other, loving the planet?
I think this is both aboutloving yourself and loving each
other.
So keep that on the back ofyour mind as we kind of talk
about this today.
But so whether you're listeningto this and you do or you don't
drink, it doesn't matter, right?
We're just going to share ourstory about kind of where we're
(01:31):
at right now and a bit of likeperspective, I guess you could
say.
So, like I said, we'recurrently seven months into no
drinking and I will definitelysay neither of us had a problem
with drinking.
But, brian, why don't you sharelike, why did we decide to do
this?
Because I feel like it wasn'treally a decision.
I made it, you started it, Ijust followed, yeah, so we were.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We were in hawaii and in january in january and the
tradition is, you know, you getto hawaii, you go to the store,
you get some drinks, bring back,you know, hotel room and now
you got your drinks for the week.
You know, at the pool, it's,it's a vibe.
You're listening to good musicat friends, you're, you're
drinking right and I have thisspecial cup.
My sister-in-law got us yetis.
(02:12):
Yeah, a little sweet yeti mug.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Um, I drink a lot I got a teal one, you got a black
one.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It goes on every holiday with me it's my
designated drinking cup but umat.
So while we were there um, Iforgot my cup at the beach so we
went on.
It was like I don't know, 25minutes away from the hotel, go
to the beach, come back and getback to the hotel and I'm like
(02:40):
where's my cup?
I can't find my cup and I turnsout I lost a whole bag because
we drove back to see if it wasthere drove back to the beach,
went to get the the stuff and Igrabbed the bag was there and I
picked it up, brought it up tothe car and I looked and someone
literally stole one thing outof the bag and it was my yeti
cup, my well-used yeti cup.
Stickers all over it like likewhat, and this was a.
(03:04):
It was like a sign because deepdown, for I would say years, I
felt like it just wasn't servingme and I didn't want to drink
and I just, I just felt stupidbecause I had this like internal
thing where it's like, if youwant to do your best and feel
(03:25):
your best, why would you impairyourself?
Yeah, you know, why would youlike slowly poison yourself
every, every weekend?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And I will say you never once voiced this to me.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, this is like a hundred percent internal and
this was like a conflictingintention that I've had for
years, that I didn't want todrink and it just I.
Just the cup was gone and I waslike I just felt freed almost.
I was like, hey, it's a sign.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Because, remember, I was like, do you want me to buy
you a new one?
Yeah, and you were just like no, you never really explained,
you guys, if you don't know,brian, everything is like an
internal thought and in humandesign he's a reflector which is
1% of the population.
That's for another podcast.
But he like takes a lunar cycleto make decisions.
So clearly he's with his ownthoughts for a long time before
he decides anything, which iswhy I never know what's going on
(04:15):
.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So the weird thing that I think also helped me with
this and I've talked aboutmushrooms lots, but mushrooms
really, really help people withaddiction and breaking habits.
And you know neuroplasticity,you know new brain patterns
happening and I was just at likemy beginning of stages of
(04:38):
exploring you know plantmedicine with mushrooms and so
all this happened like at thesame time, like I think I did,
like a, like a like like ajourney, like a week or two
before this happened I think itwas december 21st is when I did
like one of my first mushroomjourneys and then this was like
(05:03):
two, three weeks later thishappened.
So I had a lot of the mushiesare in my head already doing
their magic as they do.
But yeah, it was just one ofthose things.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I don't even know when it was that.
You were just at home in thekitchen, you were like I haven't
drank in this long, I swear.
It was like two months orsomething, yeah.
And I was like, oh wait, asecond that I don't think I've
drank in two months either, likeI didn't even know that's how
much I don't drink.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I didn't give anybody and it was like once we every
voice said I was like game onand then I was like, okay, now
this is a competition and I likea good competition.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So then we just haven't drank and I you know,
with different events and thingsthat you go to, like normally
you're offered wine or whateverand I just it's like I'm not
drinking and people can't makeyou know before they'd be like,
oh, you're pregnant, like no,everybody knows we're one and
done, that's behind us.
So like this is just a choice.
Now, which is also such astupid thing, that the minute
you say, as a woman, I'm notdrinking, people immediately
(05:57):
assume you're pregnant.
Yeah, I will just say, as awoman, that's annoying off
tangent um, but yeah, I feellike the other thing we were
talking about was like it's sucha low vibration and this
podcast we're about raising thevibration.
Yeah, let's go.
And I we were talking aboutvegas because with my company,
we're at a global conventionevery year in vegas and I
(06:18):
literally hate going there yeah,I actually got invited to go to
vegas.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Uh, last week my friend he's like you want
tickets to go to this thing inVegas?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
This is the first I'm hearing about this.
You guys Prime example of menot knowing Vegas.
I was going to tell you aboutit.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But anyway, I was just like no.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You're like, I live on Vancouver.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Island, why would I go to Vegas?
Yeah, no, that's not my jamanymore.
20 years ago maybe.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, but not even there, Like they're out of their
mind half the time.
But like so much smoking, somuch drinking, like sex alcohol
all the thing, gambling Like.
I'm just not.
It's not my vibe, it's grossanyway.
That's why I think you know welove living on vancouver island.
It's more of of our vibe,absolutely.
Um, okay, what, what have you?
(07:12):
Let's start with this first.
Actually growing up like whatwas your experience with alcohol
?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
uh well, my dad didn't really drink, so it
wasn't a big thing in my house.
Um, my mom didn't really drinklike they would have.
They would have some drinks,but it wasn't a big thing in my
house.
Um, my mom didn't really drinkLike they would have.
They would have some drinks,but it wasn't it was never like
a thing there wasn't like oh, wegot to go, get to the liquor
store and get some booze.
Like it wasn't.
I wasn't anything like that.
Um, I had.
My grandpa, though, was a bigalcoholic, like you see him with
(07:40):
a coffee cup in his hand andit's straight up, vodka.
He definitely, definitely,definitely had a problem with
that.
I definitely had, uh, somefamily that had some some
problems with that.
Um, some of my parents friendsI like at a young age, like you
know, you just go, you just bearound people that are
alcoholics at a young age, notknowing everything about it.
(08:05):
You people that are alcoholicsat a young age not knowing
everything about it.
You know it's not cool, youjust, you just feel it like
these people like this is gross,yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And then like leading into when you started, like how
old were you when you starteddrinking?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
um, probably high school, and I think it was more
of a thing just to fit intotally, which I think it is
with most kids but it becomes athing where it's like every
weekend you're out going toparties and getting wasted.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's like the goal and it's so ridiculous when you
think of it yeah, but you gofrom.
Like we have a three and a halfyear old and it's like going to
play dates and playing with yourfriends to like, let's get out
of our minds loser drunk likewhen, where does that happen?
And playing with your friendsto like, let's get out of our
minds.
Loser drunk like when, wheredoes that happen?
Like, think about it.
It's actually crazy because Iremember probably my first times
being drunk and I was drinkingsome disgusting cooler out of
(08:54):
like the giant clear bottle,like what is that?
A two liter, four liter,whatever those sizes, and it was
so sweet and gross.
But I remember just beingbecause I'm such a lightweight
when it comes to alcohol and I'mpretty sure I'm allergic to it
like I turn red and blotchy andlike you just gotta drink,
that's your body just saying,hey, this isn't good this isn't
for you, but just do it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'd be like, oh, just drink through it.
When you get an allergicreaction to anything else in
your life, you're like, oh man,this really affects me, like I
should probably stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But with alcohol it's like, just keep going, keep
going and I remember just likefalling down a flight of stairs
and I remember sometimes justbeing like I was sleeping, like,
oh my god, I was sleeping likejust totally blocked out, or
like then I'm just puking, sickand dry, heaving from like the
depths of my soul, yeah, andthen I'm so sick the next day.
(09:42):
We don't have time for this,but like remember when we were
in costa rica in circa 2009 awhole day lost because, because
your friends wanted you to drinkmore.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And I was like you guys know she's got to stop and
you're like we've been socontrolling.
I'm like you don't know herlike I do this is not good, and
then it just yeah no, it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It's not even a little bit worth it to me and I
don't obviously for me too, likesame.
I don't remember, like growingup, that it was like an issue in
my, in my household there was.
I remember there was being beerand like Friday night after
work, like you know, my dadlikes a cold pilsner and I
remember my stepmom would drinkit in a glass and she put
peanuts in it and I don't knowwhy.
(10:19):
I remember that interesting.
I also remember being a littlekid when I lived with my grandma
and thinking that there was aglass of water and going to have
some and it was vodka and justthinking like, oh good thing I
didn't drink that.
Somebody warned me.
But like why was there vodka ina glass also?
You know, yeah, it probablywasn't just pure vodka, but that
(10:40):
was my memory as a little child.
And then, yeah, same as you,just like trying fit in, trying
to be part of the cool crowd,but realizing how like it
affected me so much.
Like my friends would joke thatBrittany just needs to sniff a
bottle cap and she'll be drunk,and I don't really like the
taste of alcohol, like I hatebeer, I hate wine.
I try all the time to like wine,because it's like bougie and
(11:01):
fancy.
Apparently, every time youwanted a drink, it had to be
like a drink that was straightup sugar.
Yeah, I like a caesar, but Ialso like it just as good
without the alcohol.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, so basically give me the salt and the pickle,
some tomato juice yeah, sowhere do you want to go next
with this Cause?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
we had a few thoughts in terms of um well, how, how
has alcohol affected?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
um well, you not so much, but maybe those around you
like.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I think we all have a story about someone, something,
Well, I mean, like in my familytoo, like extended family,
obviously there's for sureissues with alcohol.
Um, have you know, even been torehab?
Some have not been and somehave relapsed and some have, you
know, kept on without it.
(11:53):
I just I don't really rememberit like affecting me that bad
and I certainly never had anykind of like issue.
That's why it's weird when yousaid to me well, what did you
notice about not drinking?
It's like nothing other than Ihave to like think about saying
no thank you when someone offersme one yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, how about someone have you had anyone who
know, anyone who's like died ina car crash from alcohol related
, or?
Or is there someone I guess Ido you know whose actions are?
It's not affecting you in likeyour health per se, but it's
(12:35):
going, it's coming into yourlife somehow and affecting you,
like like someone has a problemthe whole family is trying to
deal with something.
Oh my god it's stressingeveryone out like it's affecting
you that way.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, and I do have like a friend who
definitely died in high schooland it was.
I mean, any accident that I canthink of from high school was
always drinking was involved.
Especially being in small, likerural towns was just what you
did, not that I did, and I wasalways like the don't get in the
car with somebody drinking anddriving.
What do you think about whenyou think of that?
(13:08):
I definitely or what are yourexperiences being like?
Mine's just kind of likewhatever I'm trying to fit in, I
don't really do it.
Yeah, so not doing it, I don'treally notice anything, but
that's not really not that youhad a problem, but you're
noticing more like what was itlike in high school when you
would drink, for example?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I was just stupid, like going to class next day
hungover trying to do you know,your work and you just you're
not there and it's yeah, it'sjust, it's not cool.
And I've gone to work hungoverin the past at a desk job and I
even went and slept under thestairs.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I literally remember that day.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, horrible.
Like why did you employ me ifthat's how I was?
It was unbelievable the stuffI've done.
Why did you employ me if that'show it was?
It was unbelievable the stuffI've done.
Like some of the stupidestthings I've ever done in my life
were when I was drinking likeshameful, regrettable,
embarrassing things.
If I think back to all thethings that happened in my life
where I just didn't feel goodabout myself, they were all
(14:07):
related to alcohol, like whatWas there any of those you want
to share?
um, I was arrested once fun factfor anybody that doesn't know,
brian actually I was arrestedtwice, oh my god.
One was, yeah, I was drinkingat drinking at a party and ended
up getting loser drunk, passout in a park and the cops
(14:30):
arrested me and they brought me.
They asked if I wanted to go tothe drunk tank or home and I
went home and my dad pulled upat the house the same time as me
, right in front of the cop car,like cop car, my dad's car,
nose to nose, and I get out ofthe car in handcuffs.
I was like, hey dad, how oldwere you.
I probably would have been 17.
No no 16 I will literally killour son if this happens.
(14:52):
And then another time I got uharrested and I got a ticket
because uh drinking in publicgoing to a big party and uh had
a beer in my hand and the copseen me and tried to hide it and
yeah, so interesting when youthink back to that, because it
just like we're so not thesepeople anymore no, and maybe
(15:15):
that's why because you've grownand evolved and done so much
personal growth and developmentthat like that was just like
this one last piece of thepuzzle that just didn't align
with, like who you are and whoyou're becoming yeah, a lot of
people go through that.
Like there's politicians who andpeople that are like high up in
like government that have likestupid things like this.
Like everyone has some stupidthings.
Some of the most amazing peopleI've met in our life have
(15:35):
stories like this from when theywere young, right when I think
about, like, why even did Idrink?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why did I not notice that we weren't drinking?
It's because, like, we alwayshave a Friday night date night,
and I mean prior to having ourson, that was like very much in
our calendar.
Friday nights were date nightand most of those nights we
loved going into our basementbecause we had newly renovated a
really awesome sound system.
We loved watching movies downthere and the back of it had
like a big bar which I'm surepeople came over and saw it
would think like, oh, thesepeople actually love to drink.
(16:01):
It was more for the aestheticof what it looked like, yeah,
but at the same time it wasthere in front of you and you're
really good at making amargarita.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, yeah, the funny thing about the bar like your
environment is going to affectthe outcome.
So when you have something likethat plain sight all the time
looking at you, and there's likea.
You know there's a thing to it.
Like you watch movies andpeople are having you know fancy
bottles, you know having ascotch like it's just like a
(16:32):
thing.
It becomes so normalized insociety that and now you, you
walk down to this bar and you'relike, oh, I can have a drink
any time of day and you juststart drinking because it's
right there in front of you.
Yeah, and then we, we moved, wegot rid of, we left all our
booze behind.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
We didn't have moving company wouldn't take the
alcohol, so we just like left,left it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I could have moved it , but we left it behind and we
got to the island and we had.
We didn't have any booze, so Iwas.
It's easy not to drink when youdon't have it.
It's easy not to eat a donutwhen you don't have it, like
it's Right, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And then eventually we had some company over and
they wanted some drinks.
We start drinking a little bit,building up our little
inventory a little bit again.
Yeah, a little cupboard alittle above the fridge stocking
, you know, stocking your booze.
I like amaretto a lot, withcoke zevia at christmas time.
Um, yeah, it just like itbecomes a habit.
It's like when I when I askmyself, why did I even drink?
It's not because I it, it's notbecause of how it made me feel,
it's not, it's literally ahabit.
Yep, it was a habit aroundChristmas.
It was a habit in the summer.
It was a habit at events.
(17:36):
It was a habit on a Fridaynight, like, and your habits is
what determines your lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So what?
What can people do to replacethat habit?
What can people do to replacethat habit?
What can they drink somethinginstead?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well, we drink a lot of kombucha, a lot of fizz
sticks.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
There's a lot of other options you can drink.
There's so many Drinking.
Not drinking is like the newdrinking.
I agree.
There's so many non-alcoholicoptions out there.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
The other day, my friend brought over for my
birthday a bottle of I thoughtit was wine, and I was like, oh,
did I not really tell her thatI wasn't drinking?
And I didn't want to be rude.
So I was kind of just like, oh,thank you, I'm going to accept
the wine and just save it forguests and just serve it, like I
used to host events all thetime in the house called Wine
and Wonder, like I-alcoholic.
(18:27):
This wine she brought and I waslike, oh, I forgot, she's also
not drinking and I'm.
We must have had theconversation where she knew I
wasn't drinking.
And so here I have thisnon-alcoholic, beautiful looking
bottle of wine.
We're going away this weekendand you're like, are we gonna
ever drink this?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm like let's bring it on the weekend yeah, I'll
bring some grape juice,basically put it in a fancy wine
glass like why does?
It need to be alcohol yeah butthere it shows like you're who
you hang out with affects youknow what you do.
Well, and you become.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You become the average of the five people you
surround yourself with the most.
And it was funny because we hadfriends around the weekend and
brian made them a margarita andI was a little jealous because,
like, I know how good yourmargaritas are, yeah.
But it was funny because hesaid, um, we had kind of told
him that we weren't drinkingwhen he'd offered some to us a
couple of weeks ago andapparently we were like a little
bit inspiring with our storythat he was like I haven't even
(19:14):
drank since you guys told methat you were drinking.
And I think sometimes that'spart of why I thought we should
do this podcast, becausesometimes people just need
another perspective of like,maybe I'm just going to try not
doing it and I'm not going tosay we're never going to have a
drink again, like, and I'm notgoing to say we're never going
to have a drink again, like,maybe we'll go back to Hawaii
(19:35):
next year and we'll have a drink, I don't know, but right now
we're just going to try to gothrough the whole year and see
if we can do it.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well, I feel like it's just easy.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I just don't want it, but I'm just drinking kombucha,
yeah, so that's like an easyreplacement.
I feel like kombucha is.
It was great yeah, and it'slike no big deal, they can have
a drink, we can have a kombucha.
Like why can't it be what'sright for you?
Like it doesn't need to bejudgy or all the same, or you
know.
But it's just sort of like,yeah, looking internally and
(20:03):
like does this does it feel inalignment to you when you are
drinking, or are you drinkingout of habit?
And that's really why.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah.
So it's like take, if you takean inventory of your life, like
where did alcohol in the pastadd value to your life and where
did it negatively affect you?
Well, I think we all know whatside of the scale alcohol is
going to fall on.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
When you look around people, let you know too, like
alcohol literally is ruiningpeople's lives.
It's ruining relationships.
I feel like it's leading into alot of the growth.
It's like easier just to numband to like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Just sort of well it's like puts up like a curtain
in front of like reality.
Right it actually.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It lowers your vibration where it actually,
like disconnects you from likedivine consciousness, if we get
into that at some point but, ifyou're, if you're on that route
like, it lowers your vibrationso much that you're not even in
touch with like unified fieldanymore, if you don't what I'm
talking about that's cool andlike, it's such an interesting
(21:10):
way to look at it too, and Ithink, um, you know, if you are
somebody that does drink, it'slike just ask yourself why like,
and if it feels good, I guess,keep doing it.
And if it doesn't like,challenge yourself like we are,
maybe yeah.
What?
What?
A month or six months or a yearof just not doing it?
You know, there's a part of methat thinks like if you're
(21:31):
somebody that's like, oh well, Idon't have a problem.
Well then, not drinking for ayear should be easy.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But it's your habit.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It's a habit, though I know Um cause.
Sometimes I think too like arewe just avoiding the things we
need to address in our life, orare we like actually addressing
them by not numbing ourself allthe time?
Anyway, I listened to this.
Will you send it to me, AYouTube video that we can maybe
share in the show notes?
Um, it was a motivational videoand the very beginning of it
(21:58):
said that the most damaging drugto society as a whole is
alcohol 100 agree which I waslike what.
There's like way worse drugs outthere, but apparently not no
because it's accepted, it's soldat stores.
The government you know you havegovernment liquor stores right
right, yeah, and it said inthere that alcohol is considered
(22:18):
a class one carcinogen orcancer causing agent.
Well, I'm not really outlooking for those things in my
life.
I'm trying to do everything Ican to avoid that.
Yeah, um, it's in the samecategory as benzene and tobacco
smoke.
If you know, me and brian arethe biggest anti-smokers ever.
We won't probably do a podcast.
No, there's no point.
(22:40):
Um, but basically, the poisonin alcohol, which is the sedal
alcohol itself, is what leads tothe effects of being inebriated
or drunk.
Poison is making us feel likethat.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
It is poison and it's just like I had to think of it
differently, like I'm slowlypoisoning myself.
Every time I drink, I'm slowlypoisoning myself.
I'm like that does not soundlike something I want to do.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So I was just like I don't know there's just at the
end of the day, just it's notadding value, it doesn't feel in
alignment for us at this time,right, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
It was just something I thought we could chat about
because it's an interestingtopic yeah, like like you could
go do a Google search on thebenefits of quitting and do a
Google search on the risks andyou're going to find stuff like
yeah, carcinogen cancer, how itaffects like every organ and one
(23:33):
of the big things is itmassively affects your digestion
and your microbiome.
Your microbiome is, like,related to your overall physical
and mental health, so it's likea double whammy.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well to me.
I just feel like too.
I'm like I represent a healthand wellness company.
I don't feel an alignment whenI'm drinking.
No, and that's just somethingyou got to look at yourself to
see.
Like do you?
Because maybe the next person,they don't feel like that.
That's just how I feel.
So it feels good that I justthat I'm not drinking, but it's
also really easy for me to notdrink.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, you know, and like in a, in a world where
everyone is always so stressedwith everything, alcohol raises,
like your baseline cortisollevel, which is directly related
to stress, so it's almost likeone of those things are oh yeah,
I need to drink to de-stress,but you're doing the opposite
yeah, it's you're.
(24:27):
You're making it worse, you'restressing your body.
Yeah, um, yeah, what you?
What did you ask me earlier?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
what, uh, some of the things that I noticed right,
because I didn't really noticeanything, because, like, it's
not really a thing for me.
But what did you notice?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I never did drink a lot.
So I guess the first thing is Inever felt guilty and regretful
anymore because every time Idrank I felt guilty for doing it
because I knew it wasn't inalignment and I felt regretful
the next day because I'd justdone something stupid that I
didn't want to do, so I didn'thave that anymore, so that's
(25:04):
good.
Um, I say mood is overall better.
Um, sleep is huge.
Like you, you have one drinkand like I, wear a smart watch
when I sleep and you can trackyour sleep cycles, how deep you
go, like all that stuff.
Have one drink and watch whatyour sleeps look like.
Horrible, horrible sleeps and Inoticed so interesting I noticed
(25:25):
when, uh, I had a drink, mybaseline heart rate in my sleep
was usually about 20 beats perminute.
More.
That's crazy it's like mybody's trying to pump my blood
faster to well because youpoisoned it to filter it all out
, to get it out of my body'strying to pump my blood faster
to well because you poisoned itto filter it all out to get it
out of my system so you'rehurting your liver like what I
remember.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Actually, now they're saying that what did I notice?
Whenever I would have a drinklike even the other night when
they came over and had yourmargaritas I thought to myself
one thing I don't miss is, asI'm getting ready for bed and
we're, you know, putting thedishes by the sink and stuff is
I don't feel like I have shrekfeet.
Oh yeah, like I would be soswollen in my body, like the
inflammation, not the good kindof swole the inflammation was
(26:06):
like yeah, something I did notlove, yeah and I think overall
clear thinking is another one.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Um, and saving a lot of money.
I mean, you're buying kombuchas, but it's still cheaper than
you can't.
You just can't put a price onmoney.
I mean, you're buying kombuchas, but it's still cheaper than
you can't.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You just can't put a price on your health, though you
really can't, and I was talkingto a friend today that was, um,
just on the tail end of beingsick, and I just said you know
what is true, nothing else inlife matters, nothing else.
Like we just got a new car,move to a new place, you can
have your brand new house, allwhatever you think, but if you
don't have your health, likeliterally none of it matters.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, and when you drink you're actually
suppressing your immune systems.
You're going to get sicker more, Like I don't know.
You can go to Google search allthe risks and benefits of not
drinking.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So I would say just a little bit of a like call to
action if you're listening stillto our ramble chat on this is
just do some inventory withyourself and like check in and
say like, does it feel inalignment?
Is it something I just feeltotally fine if I continue on,
or is it something you want tokind of challenge yourself with
and see, like, can you go alittle bit of time without it
and see how you feel, see whatyou notice?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I mean another, another thing when we talk about
, you know, our three lovepillars is um loving each other
like this.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Alcohol really, really affects relationships in
a big way we really don't fightbut I will say any fights that
we've had, even drinking yeah,like I said, stupidest,
shittiest, most regretfulmoments I've had in my life is,
and not that you're like anangry drunk.
You're just like an annoyingdrunk.
He gets so chatty.
I make fun of him like notbeing chatty, but then he drinks
(27:38):
and it's like lispy chatty, Ithink yeah, because my thoughts
are always so internal.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I think it just makes those internal thoughts
external.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, there's a lot of benefits to that.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Anyway, I'm loving this new us that's not drinking
and yeah, it's not.
We're not judging anyone, we'rejust sharing our experience and
it's.
It's been amazing and I thinkeveryone should, should try it
Like I've tried it before in thepast.
Yeah, you have.
When I was doing reallycompetitive mountain biking I
(28:13):
was like no, no alcohol, becauseI know it affects me.
Duh.
Yeah, and that's when I was atmy absolute peak physical
performance.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So you really do notice that affects you
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And then it was like, hey, in the fall, mountain
biking's done, we'll be inMexico.
Then, like, turn on thedrinking machine again.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's so wild.
Yeah, so we're heading to CostaRica and then back to Maui for
our one year Kind of full circlemoments.
I guess We'll see what that'slike being sober vacations.
I wouldn't have my cup, sothose are our first total sober
vacations, but like, let'sexperience that it's going to be
great, yeah.
So love yourself, love eachother and love the planet.
(28:54):
Actually while we're talkingabout loving the planet.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This does relate, actually, this actually does
relate.
How many beer cans you thinkyou find on the side of the road
?
Yeah, when you're drunk anddrinking a whatever pack, yeah
drinking a 12 pack of uh beer,but no one's going to be
drinking a 12 pack of kombuchasdrinking one why is alcohol like
that?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
like you would never sit down and drink a case of pop
either.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
If you drink pop, no, but you would sit down and have
drink after drink, after drinkwith some pop true but yeah,
it's weird.
So, yeah, you got all the uh,the garbage that comes with
drinking.
And then just think of all thecrops that are grown
specifically for beer Like youknow, you got barley, so you got
(29:44):
whiskey like all thesedifferent crops that are grown
specifically to make alcohol.
That could be growing food forpeople and nourishing them, but
it's.
Think about all the vineyards,yeah all the vineyards, oh, but
a good wine tour is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I mean, people do love their wine tours.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, but just get all that land.
Just think of you couldactually think of the global
scale of it how much land isactually taken up to grow crops
for alcohol when it could be fornourishing food.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Alcohol is just such a thing that is so widely
accepted hey.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's sad we do without it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So love the planet and drink one kombucha, not a
12-pack of beer.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Exactly, Stay awesome everybody.
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