July 21, 2025 • 46 mins
"I Just Wish I Had a Bigger Kitchen" author, influencer (@Naptime Kitchen), and homemaker, Kate Strickler brings her refreshing honesty and practical wisdom to this week's conversation by sharing her reflective list of "other lies I think will make me happy" paired with creative approaches to pivoting our mindset.
What distinguishes Kate's approach is her exceptional self-awareness combined with a problem-solver's mindset. Rather than offering platitudes about accepting ourselves, she delivers tangible strategies for shifting both perspective and daily habits. The concept of creating "a life you love" through what Kate calls the "inner scorecard versus outer scorecard" approach. By focusing on what genuinely matters to you—not what society dictates—she argues we can find contentment amidst constant pressure to want more.
Kate's discussion of family rhythms provides a masterclass in balanced parenting—establishing consistent routines while allowing flexibility. From technology boundaries to managing evolving schedules as children grow, she demonstrates how thoughtful structure creates freedom rather than restriction. Her candid admission that she'll occasionally break her own rules when everyone needs it showcases her refreshingly realistic approach to family life.
Pre-order Kate's book, releasing August 26th to discover all ten "I wish" statements and their transformative solutions. You'll likely find yourself nodding in recognition that someone has finally articulated the thoughts you've been having all along—and better yet, provided a path forward.
Please be sure to checkout our website for previous episodes, our psych-approved resource page, and connect with us on social media! All this and more at www.thelylaspodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
so, yeah, when I was kind of working up the nerve to
ask uh, today's guest to come onthe podcast, I thought for sure
she was going to say somethinglike well, jenny, I'd love to.
But you know, I got mel robbinsnext week and then Oprah called
and she wants to have me on andso, luckily for us, by the
grace of God, she agreed to comeon the little podcast that
(00:33):
could, the Lylas podcast.
So we're so excited to have aspecial guest today.
Content creator.
I call her an influencerbecause she influences me all
the time, much to my husband'sdismay, I'm sure.
But a new author as well addedto her resume.
We have none other than KateStrickler from Naptown Kitchen.
(00:55):
Kate, welcome to the Live thisPodcast.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Thank you for having me To be clear, don't worry, Mel
Robbins nor Oprah are knockingon my door, so, but you are kind
.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
They just haven't read the book yet.
Kate, as soon as they do.
I have a feeling they will.
I'm so excited to talk about thebook and that we got a sneak
peek.
I already have my copypre-ordered, but to have a sneak
peek to it and to really have achance to talk to you about it,
I'm so excited because I knowhow hard you've worked on it
just from following you.
(01:28):
But also it's really, I think,something that a lot of women
are going to relate to and gogosh, is she in my head?
Did she steal my thoughts?
How did she write the thingsthat I'm thinking all the time?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, thank you.
I'm glad that we're at thelaunch part after the year of
writing, so I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, for those of you, if you've never heard of
Kate or Naptime Kitchen, you canfind her on Instagram.
She gives a lot of practicalsort of mom hacks I know you
probably hate that word by now,but just hacks on like how to
make life a little easier.
But give us an idea.
I'm curious because I've neverasked you this question before.
(02:13):
What is your background?
Like, what did you go to?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
college for.
So I majored in exercisescience and did personal
training.
After college.
I taught classes until I was 38weeks pregnant with John Robert
, so with my first and, and thenafterward like loosely did, but
it didn't make sense reallyfrom a childcare perspective.
(02:35):
So yeah, that was my background.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Okay, and so then, how was Naptime Kitchen born
after that?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So he was born in June.
So I finished working like lateMay.
He was born in June of 2015.
And really by January I justwas pretty like bored at home.
I mean, like he, you know, hehad requirements of me, but he
was napping twice a day and Ijust needed an outlet and I love
to cook and so I was cookingpretty elaborately at the time
(03:08):
and just decided to make anInstagram for, like photos of
food.
And this was like way back inthe day, Instagram was like not
fancy, it was just a square witha caption and I would just like
share what I was cooking.
And really it was like myfamily members were following me
.
It was super small.
I did not think anything of it.
It was just like a creativeoutlet to cook.
(03:30):
And then Instagram stories cameabout when my after my second
was born and that was like areally fun like oh, now there's
like everyday kind of video,kind of content thrown in there,
and and then, yeah, I just kindof never stopped posting, I
guess, and it evolved.
Yeah, it just evolved as we hadmore kids and moved and
(03:52):
everything like that.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, that's one thing that I really gathered
from your Instagram and evenfrom reading the book that
without having them, there'sreally not a nap time kitchen.
There's really not a greaterwish that we kind of go through
in our lives because our kidsand our family influence so much
of who we are, and you've beenable to beautifully join all of
(04:14):
the intricacies, the you know,the fun train wrecks that happen
with it and have created thisuniquely refreshing, real kind
of vulnerable, open perspectiveas to what it's like to actually
be doing all of this, with allof these responsibilities that
(04:34):
are like tangible and outside ofwho we are.
But then you also are willingto share like those inner
vulnerabilities that we have,like those inner messages that
are constantly playing while wehave these little actors or
family members or you know,whatever these things are in the
universe around us, and so Ithink that's really cool that
you have that joining spiritwith it, and how has that kind
(04:58):
of evolved for you over time?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I think it just really has been like out of
necessity and it just it hasevolved as our life has changed.
So again, like was cookingelaborate meals that took a lot
of time, and then it was theearly days of motherhood, and
now my kids are becoming moreand more school age.
So I'm like I even I feel likeanother shift happening and like
, for the first time ever, wehave swim team and I'm like, oh
(05:23):
my gosh, now we're like eatingdinner at the pool.
Like I just feel like it's justevolved, as I have evolved in
terms of what our life is doing.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's so much more relatable and the fact that you
are able to do that on such afar-reaching platform is
admirable.
I know, when we even startedthis podcast, you know it's hard
in the beginning to putyourself out there and to tell
some of like your darkest ordeepest secrets.
And the more you do it, themore like liberated you feel and
(05:54):
all of a sudden it's it's notas hard, and I imagine it was
probably the same way for youthat first time you turned the
camera on and talk to it.
You know you're like Whoa, youknow, um, but now it's probably
just.
I mean, I see you strollingthrough the neighborhood and
you're not worried about who'swatching, or you know, or maybe
you are, I don't know, but itjust seems like it probably gets
easier.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, it definitely does.
And now too, I mean especiallylike if you see me in the
neighborhood, half the timepeople are on their phones like
FaceTiming.
I'm like people don't know whatI'm doing over here anyways,
but I don't.
Yeah, it almost just feels likeI've been doing it so long.
I don't even really think aboutit.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's almost like second nature at this point.
Well, I definitely want to talka little bit, or a lot of bit,
about this book, because so manythings resonated with me to the
point I was like, are we thesame person?
Like there were so many thingsthat were just spot on.
Besides, you've got at leastfive inches on me, but beyond
that, like you, you literallytook thoughts out of my head and
(06:54):
so many things from, like youknow, when Sarah and I both
walked away and I say walkedaway from our careers, but like
the career path that we hadchosen, that we had gone to
school for and trained for andbeen in for almost two decades,
we both you know, it's kind ofwhere this podcast came from but
we were both like well, who arewe outside of being
psychologists?
Like what?
You know that the first timeyou meet somebody, that's the
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first thing you tell them well,this is what I do for a living.
And so I really struggled withit.
In the beginning, I felt thisneed to like bring it up in
conversation, like, oh, I usedto do this, I used to be
somebody.
And then, over time, I was like, well, you know, that's, it's
okay, but generally people justdon't really care.
I think or I I was giving itway more weight than other
(07:36):
people were but this whole likeidea of like we attach ourselves
to our profession, you know, Ithink, is I didn't realize I
wasn't that I was the onlyperson that felt that way.
And so reading that in yourbook, you know, even though
you're relating it to somebodyelse or you know, to women as
well, some friends, it just itwas like oh okay, I'm not alone
(07:59):
in how this feels.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, and that everyone's feeling it for
themselves.
It's like I think we're.
We so often think it's likepeople are so much more
concerned with themselves thanwith us than we realize that
everyone's kind of leaving beinglike what did I say, who was I
there?
When we're wondering what didthey think of what I said?
And it's like they're reallythinking about what they said.
(08:22):
You know, it's like we're allkind of in this identity,
figuring out who we are andwhere we fit in in friendships
and in motherhood and like allthese things.
Everyone's in that journey offiguring those things out.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But I think what you do so nicely within the book,
though, is that you are able tosuccinctly kind of identify with
these.
I wish statements, and I don'tknow that we really pay
attention to that internaldialogue that we have, so how
were you able to really zone into yourself to come up with
(08:57):
these?
I mean spoiler alert, there's10.
I wish statements.
That really kind of send us attimes in a spiral, but where did
your awareness of this kind ofcome from?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, it took a year to write, so definitely took
some time, but I think I justwas able to well one from being
online for so long.
My friends would say I'm a veryself-aware person, maybe to a
fault.
I'm very aware of how I'm doing, what I'm struggling with, what
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feels hard at any given time,or to be like this is bothering
me.
I'm not sure why.
I need to figure out why thisspecific thing is bothering me
or why did that comment hurt myfeelings.
I'm pretty in tune with what'sgoing on with me and so I'm
probably that over.
Self-awareness was probably, inthis instance, the negative of
(09:53):
it can be.
I can leave someplace and belike oh, what did I say?
What you know?
How did I feel?
What do people think?
The positive is that in thissituation, it like was able to
be channeled into these chaptersthat I've, like I've actually
really have had the awareness tobe like I know I have thought
these things.
And then also it's when Ithere's certain things that when
(10:15):
I say them online, the likeinflux of response is really
huge.
For instance, I did a storywhere I was like starting
Accutane and I was just saying,like for me skin has been really
hard.
For instance, I did a storywhere I was like starting
Accutane and I was just sayinglike for me, skin has been
really hard and so on otherpeople.
I notice it and like peoplehave their own like proverbial
thing.
It's like whether it'ssomebody's hair or their body
(10:38):
size, like there are all thesedifferent things, and it's like
whatever you're personallystruggling with is what you
mirror in everyone you'relooking at.
And I got this like influx ofcomments of just like that, like
, yes, I struggle with this, Istruggle with this, I struggle
with this.
And so in like a book writingprocess, I think I had the
(10:59):
confidence to know I know I'mnot the only one struggling with
this, to know I know I'm notthe only one struggling with
this.
Like I'm writing aboutsomething that I have heard over
and over and over again peoplesay to back to me when I do like
choose to be vulnerable andthen hear back.
So I think that it was like Ihad kind of a collective
experience of a lot of people tohelp me in whatever the chapter
(11:23):
was.
So, yeah, that helped.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, that just had to be so validating for you to,
on a personal level though, tolike again be vulnerable, but
then to have other people belike girl me too.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yes, it is a pro of social media for sure is to get
to feel it on a larger level.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Where do you think that self-awareness comes from,
or how do you think youdeveloped it?
Because I mean, you're young.
You're at least five, six yearsyounger than we are and I kept
thinking like, wow, she is soahead of her time.
So where do you think thatself-awareness comes from?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I have no idea, jenny , I don't know, I really don't
know.
I mean know, I really don'tknow.
I mean probably part of beingthe weird part of this job.
I think I've been self-awarebefore this job.
Like I've been like anintrospective journaler,
(12:29):
especially like in my prayerlife with God.
Like that is something that Iam talking to God about, and so
I think, partly when I go tolike pray about something, it is
causing me to bring it to thesurface.
And so in bringing it to thesurface, I'm making myself aware
of it.
Like I'm not just like stuffingsomething down, I'm saying like
I'm having a really hard timetoday with contentment in my
home, like I'm a little bitpissed, I just I am feeling
(12:49):
suffocated and when I say itthen it like brings it to the
table from an awarenessstandpoint, versus just being
like it's fine, it's fine,everything's fine.
I'm just going to like pushthis under the rug, and so, and
then I think, being online, myself-awareness has probably
skyrocketed because I am there'svery few people like I don't
(13:10):
have a boss evaluating me.
(13:33):
The only boss is the Instagramalgorithm, which, nate, is like
the steady ship to my storm andhe's not super active on social
media, but very much understandssocial media, understands how
it works.
So I think that when I'mfeeling like I'm trying to
figure out where I fit into thislike stormy ocean of social
media, he's much more able to belike this is who you are, this
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is what matters, you know thingslike that.
But I don't have a performancereview Like.
So I have to kind of be likehow is my work level going?
Am I overly stressed?
Because if I'm overly stressed,I have the power to dial it
back.
I just have to make myself dialit back.
So it probably comes a lot toofrom like a lot of
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self-evaluation of what'sworking, what's not.
How am I feeling about what'sworking?
Because I luckily it's like agreat blessing, but I get to
choose how I do this job.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well, and like you said too, it's not even like
it's a job, because you're areflection of your true life.
You're a reflection of your truethoughts of what's happening
there within your family as well, and I think one of the great
things about the book is thateach chapter you provide a
beautiful foundation or storyabout what's kind of happening
(14:53):
within your life that relates tothat context, whether it's I
wish I had a better kitchen, Iwish what was it?
I was a better mom, right, andthe stories that go along with
that just resonate so much likewith what Jen says, what so many
of us feel.
But then what you're able to dois be self-aware and not
self-critical.
And so in the book you come upwith these mindset shifts that
(15:19):
are really grounding ways for usto kind of relate to.
But then you came up with thesepractical tips to help us to
get there.
Where did those?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
come from.
Yeah, the practicality piece.
It felt like very necessary,because that is really such a
huge part of like what NaptimeKitchen does to write a book.
That was sort of philosophicalbut not practical.
It would almost be like this isnot the way Kate's brain works,
and so I was thinking becauseyou know, y'all had sent me some
(15:49):
questions.
One of them was like where doyou think up this stuff?
Like, where did the life hacksor you know hacks come from?
Well, one, my parents are bothlike very practical people, like
in the funniest of ways, likeif my dad wants something in the
garage, he's gonna like finaglehow to put it up and like use a
(16:11):
zip tie.
I mean it's very handy, very,very handy, but just they're
very practical in like solvingproblems and coming up with
solutions, and so I think mybrain works that way too, like
if there's something that'sbothering me in my house or what
like I'm going to be like likewhat can I do, what can I buy,
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what can I make to make thiseasier?
And so, with with these likebigger topics, I was like no
really, though, how do Iactually improve my marriage
when I'm feeling like I wish Ihad a better husband?
Or how do I actually like helpmyself out of a deep pit when
I'm struggling with body image?
(16:52):
Like don't just tell me likeyou're beautiful and uniquely
made, but like no, what are somepractical things that could
actually help me?
And that's.
I think that's where a lot ofbooks I would get frustrated of,
like okay, that was like somereally great mindset stuff, but
like I need you to help me knowwhat to do.
So, you know that that'sprobably where the practical
(17:16):
comes from is that's just likehow I function, sometimes to a
fault, from a practicalstandpoint.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So You're a problem solver at heart.
Yes, it's like bring me allyour problems.
I did wonder as I was readingthe book, and it sounds like
maybe you do this through prayer, but do you meditate?
Do you have any kind ofmeditation practice?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I don't.
Oh, Jenny, I think I would die.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, because you are kind of busy, like you said.
You know self self-described asbusy, you like to be moving.
You remind me a lot of mymother-in-law, like she can't
sit still, she's go, go, go, go.
But I I do think sometimes thatthat's the type of person that
benefits maybe the most from ameditation practice, and the
(18:04):
reason I kept thinking that isjust because and you sort of got
you alluded to this when youwere talking about, like through
your prayer it really helps youto become self-aware.
I would say that's the numberone thing that it has helped me
with, you know, in terms andspecifically anxiety, because I
too have struggled with anxietymy entire life, as long as I can
remember.
But it is something that hashelped me realize what I can
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control, what's out of mycontrol, and then really like,
make a plan for okay, like howam I going to move through this?
And so I just I kept comingback to I wonder if she's ever
explored just like two minutes aday, like guided meditation.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
No, I bet that is similar like guided meditation.
No, I, I bet that is similar.
Like I, when I'm doneexercising and before I go out,
like I sit at my desk I have mybible and I have my journal and
that's kind of my like.
So it may be a similar and agrounding sense of like.
That's like my five to tenminutes of just kind of like
what does the day hold, how am Ifeeling, what do I need help
with?
Kind of like, what does the dayhold, how am I feeling, what do
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I need help with?
Kind of thought process.
But I try, not perfectly, butto do that in the mornings
before I go out to the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So I'm a big believer in a gratitude journal.
I I also.
I just write down five things,everything every day that I'm
grateful for, most days, Ishould say, and then five wishes
, and then I close my journaland I send them out into the
universe and I say, or somethingbetter right, because we don't
know what's headed our way likea year, and read some of those
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things and see what's come tofruition and realize that you
know, sometimes just putting itout there is enough, you don't,
you know that's all you have todo.
And for me, I think that that'sjust something that has helped
to reaffirm that, like, thereare things we have control over
and some things we don't.
And if you're somebody thatlives with anxiety, you know how
difficult that is to not beable to control things,
particularly when it comes to,like, your kids or safety.
(20:05):
You know those types of things,yeah, but big believer in a
gratitude journal.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Well, I think, to kind of join what you both were
saying, that's kind of what youhit on the last chapter of the
book.
Whenever you're talking about alife that you love Right
chapter of the book, wheneveryou're talking about a life that
you love right, it's almostlike a form of like radical
acceptance, where you have toaccept that some of these things
are just what they are.
And now here we are, kind of athing.
Is that something that you findyourself like coming to
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throughout each day, especiallywhenever you're, you know,
living a life with four kidsrunning around and now swim,
practice, managing your career,their school life, like all of
that stuff?
Where do you go to in thosemoments, like, what are your
most practical practices thatyou put in place then?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, we definitely have like really solid time
rhythms in our house and so,like I wake up in the morning
and exercise from six to seven,and that like is just the
beginning of my day.
And then I get to go into thekitchen and like do breakfast
with the kids, make lunches,like we have very strong weekly
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rhythms and then the kids gethome at 3.30 and I'm usually
done for the day by 3.30.
So I'm like thinking about them.
What do we need to do?
You know, do we have soccer,like just kind of headed into
that part of the day, and thenlike the bedtime routine.
So I feel like our rhythm isreally strong and it's
interesting because, like, comethe end of May, like Nate will
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want to sit down and talk withme about the summer rhythm,
because it is.
It just feels like our kidswill need it too.
Like they, I don't think theyrealize how much the rhythm
helps them.
And then, when it's gone, it'slike, ah, like when can we watch
TV?
When can we eat a snack?
What are we doing today?
And I'm like, oh, they're likethrown off, like they don't want
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to be in school.
But we do need some, like theyneed some expectations, and so
maybe that's the other word it'slike expectations of what's
like what's coming in the day,so I mean those and then, like
on a spiritual level, likeprayer is very grounding to me,
like just kind of somecommunication with God
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throughout the day.
I mean, like yesterday I was inthe car and we were leaving swim
and I was just in the worstmood and I was like moody
towards Johnny and I did not.
I just kind of like at thestoplight, was like God, I am
just pissed and I'm not sure why, but I just need like I just
need some help.
And then I like turned toJohnny and I was like hey, I'm
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just I'm sorry, I'm just kind ofin a bad mood.
And I, it's not a big deal thatyou took two pieces of gum,
like cause.
I was like why did you like weonly take one piece of gum?
And he took two and he's liketrying to spit one out.
I was like just take them, justtake the two pieces.
Do you think that gum justgrows on trees?
We need to be sparing with thegum.
(23:01):
They eat so much gum.
We go through a lot of gum.
But it's just like hey, man,I'm like I'm sorry, the gum
thing was not that big of a deal.
I was just kind of in a bad mood, so quickly apologizing to John
Robert and quickly just beinglike I don't know I'm taking
something out on my son that hedidn't even really do wrong.
I don't know why I'm in a badmood.
(23:22):
So to me those kind of come outas prayers of like, just can
you help me, god?
I don't know what's, I don'tknow why I'm feeling this way
right now, but I am.
So I'm not sure if I fullyanswered the question, but
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no-transcript something we don'tdo.
But like last night they werelike can we watch Planet Earth?
And it does feel like come Maywe are like starting to get more
lax, like it's just light out,everyone's ready for summer,
like a lot of, and again we'redoing swim teams.
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So that's like throwing off ourevenings anyway.
And I was like, yes, like let'swatch an episode of Planet
Earth.
So it was kind of fun becauseit was like we ended the night
with just like watching likewhales and you know, flamingos
and all this stuff, and I waslike, oh, what a great end to
the day, like it was.
It was almost like I broke myown rule that we have and it was
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just.
It was like we all just neededit on a Monday night in these
like final weeks of school, justto listen to what's his name
David Attenborough.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
The planet earth guy's voice that's so calming
and um, so the day ended okay,all that to say, but curious how
you handle that, because wehave taken a page out of your
book and and done away withtechnology during the week.
Um, they can watch a show, butlike that no more ipads, no more
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games, you know that kind ofstuff, just to to like let's
play outside more, and for allof us like let's put our phones
down, my husband and I, all thethings.
But then the weekend comes andit's almost like and maybe it's
because we've only been doingthis a month, but it's like.
They're like I finally get mygadget or I can finally play my,
whatever it is, and it's likethey all you know, to the point
(25:42):
where they want to sit on it forlike hours.
And we're like, no, no, no,that's not what you're trying to
do.
Um, so have you experiencedthat as well?
Or is it?
You know, since it was never athing like it, you know, maybe
they're not as no, they likehave a binge fest Saturday
morning is like hours.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
They wake up, they're allowed to start watching at
seven.
They don't need to ask afterseven they can start watching.
And so Nate and I can sleep inbecause they just like wake up
and start watching.
And it's like sometimes at likenine, 30, we're like maybe we
should make them turn it offsoon.
It's been two and a half hours,but I'm like I I remember doing
that as a kid.
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I remember just being like I amjust going to completely veg
out and watch cartoons onSaturday morning.
And so to me I'm just maybe,because I did it, I'm like man,
you just binge Dude, perfect fora couple of hours and just, and
then, you know, usually aroundlike 9.30 or 10, we're like, all
(26:37):
right, guys, let's turn it off,and we kind of go throughout
the day and then at night theycan usually watch again.
Um, like we'll watch a movie,or um, it's getting harder with
the age gap of like what movieto watch um but and our ipad
broke, which actually was great.
(26:57):
It like broke, one of the kidsdropped in and smashed and I was
like you know what, like, let'snot replace it.
So they don't have.
They only have the TVs which Imean they can watch.
They can get to YouTube, whichwe used to not allow YouTube
because it was so bothering tome of the crap but all they want
to watch is Dude Perfect rightnow, which I'm a huge Dude
Perfect fan, so I'm like you canwatch that to your heart's
(27:19):
content.
I'm a huge Dude Perfect fan, soI'm like you can watch that to
your heart's content.
But kind of on the weekends wejust like we let them have a
little bit more freedom to justgo ham.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Again a very practical solution right there.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Exactly that's what I mean when I say like wise
beyond your years.
I'm like, you're younger thanme, but you have all the answers
, Kate?
Like I do not, but you at leasthave an idea and I'm a little
bit more of like I'm not reallysure what to do or what.
You know, I go extremelyrestrictive and that doesn't
tend to work out well foranybody.
(27:54):
But another thing, kind ofgetting back to what you talked
about, sort of at the end of thebook because I think I told you
this yesterday Like I laughed,I cried, that last chapter
really got me on many differentlevels.
But one thing is really just itsparked this idea, you know,
kind of creating this life thatyou love.
And when I took a year off ofwork, about halfway through Jeff
(28:18):
lost his job and so we foundourselves both at home, not
working for maybe like six weeks, and so we got into this show
called A Rich Life.
Have you ever heard of this?
I think it was on.
Netflix that we watched Um andI'm not even going to try to say
the man's name, I'm sure I'llbutcher it, but it's basically
this idea where he, he has youreally think about.
(28:40):
You know, what does your richlife look like?
Not what society tells you arich life is, but like what's
important to you.
So like we, we sort of made alist.
Like it's things like pickingour kids up from school, you
know, having the ability to biketo school and go on, like
several mini vacationsthroughout the year, not not
necessarily like big grandvacations where we're taking
(29:00):
them overseas, but like maybe wevacations throughout the year,
not necessarily like big grandvacations where we're taking
them overseas, but like maybe wepop somewhere for the weekend
or go visit friends.
We haven't seen in years thosetypes of things.
But so we really just took timeto like list out what does our
rich life look like.
And that was so helpful, notjust for me, the spender in the
family, because my husband isthe save every penny, I'm the
(29:20):
spend every penny.
Like you're dying tomorrow,hence why I'm an influencer
stream, by the way, but he, youknow, it helped me to really
look at okay, like if I wantthese things like one of our
goals is to retire in our 50sand so like, if I really want
this, then I have to think aboutdo I need a new outfit every
(29:41):
week or do I need to buy, youknow, all the latest and
greatest?
And so it just I was curious.
You know, reading it I was likeI wonder if they've ever
watched that show, because I,you know it was very.
There were some similaritiesthere and that, like you're
really creating the life thatthat is important to you, that
is rich to you not necessarilysociety's measure.
(30:03):
And I forget what you call it inthe book.
You call it like your internalmeasuring stick or something.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The inner and outer scorecard.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
That's what it's a scorecard.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yes, which we totally ripped off from Warren Buffett,
who maybe he ripped it off fromsomeone else Nate would know,
but Nate is a huge WarrenBuffett fan.
But Nate is better at the innerversus outer scorecard than I am
.
I think it is harder whenyou're on social media but, yes,
(30:31):
just the like what is actuallyimportant to me, and like you
were saying, like picking upyour kids from school, that's
like I had never thought of thatand I was like it's so true you
get to pick your kids up fromschool.
That's like I had never thoughtof that and I was like it's so
true, like you get to pick yourkids up from school and so it
might mean that you lose some.
You know you lose out on somethings, but if they're not on
your scorecard, why do you evencare?
But the things that are on yourscorecard that you're like
(30:52):
getting an A in that matter toyou, then it like gives you a
rich life.
But you've got I think I saythis in the book it's like
you've got to keep your eyes onyour scorecard because you can't
get an A on your scorecard andsomeone else's scorecard and
this scorecard.
It's just not possible, right,which is hard for me.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I'd like to get all A's in all, in all areas, In all
(31:33):
the things, In all the things.
Yeah, speeding off to get towork by 6.50 and then you pick
them up at you know four o'clockand then you rush at home to
make dinner and, like I didn'teven realize, I think back then
that that might be somethingimportant to me, like biking to
school and having that like 10minutes of like conversation
about what your day was like.
(31:54):
Because I was so frazzled, sucha like shell of myself by the
time I decided to walk away fromthat.
And what I think was what mademe emotional about the last
chapter of that book was I had alot of compassion for that
woman that was doing what shethought she was supposed to be
doing.
Right, I had the career I wascontributing financially to my
(32:16):
family.
I had two kids that were wellcared for and I knew where they
were at during the day and theywere learning and all the things
that we think they're supposedto be doing.
But at the end of the day, itreally wasn't what was most
important to me, which is justtime with them.
Like it became so apparent to methat they're going to grow up
in the blink of an eye and Idon't want to miss those little
(32:39):
like 10 minutes a day where Ican have a conversation with
them and not feel like annoyedthat I'm not doing something
else to be productive.
I don't know if that makessense, but, like you know, like
I could fully be present andhave conversations and want to
be with them and and not justlike, oh, I got to get through
this because I got to do thisnext and this, and then tomorrow
starts all over.
(32:59):
You know, there's a realfreedom that comes in deciding
like, OK, that's actually reallyimportant to me and I'm going
to have to make some adjustmentsto my life in order to have
those needs met.
So, yeah, I, that was, that wasa big one for me.
Just that, you know, validationor that like compassion of like
(33:21):
she was doing the best shecould but she didn't realize she
didn't have to do all that.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, I think too.
I talk about this in the intro,but something that I think
about often, as I like play thelottery in my head of like if
I'm struggling with something,I'll be like what if you threw
your name in the hat and youcould trade with, just at random
somebody else whose name is inthe hat?
And the answer is, like always,no, like always, whether it's
(33:48):
like all right, throw your namein the hat and you could trade
with anybody in the world's home.
It's like the chances ofgetting a nicer house, better
health, a better family, likeI'm like I would never trade any
of it.
So that kind of similarly, it'slike that is my kind of thing I
(34:09):
do in my head and it justimmediately like brings me back
to like you are so, so lucky,kate, like just and you know
somebody hearing this might feellike no, I don't feel that way,
I would put my name in the ring.
But it just like it's likereally makes me feel like the
chances of pulling somethingbetter than what I have are so
(34:33):
low.
And then, even if it was better, like it's not mine and I want
what like.
It's like like you know what ifI had a different life without
my family, without my kids, likeI don't know, that's just.
It brings me back to like justhow specific and special what I
have is, and I like really don'twant to trade that, even though
(34:58):
I can quickly be like, oh, Iwant that or that or that.
It's like you really you reallydon't.
You got a pretty good here,kate.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
So, and even if you get all those things, there's no
guarantee that it's going tomake you happy.
I say you know my kids have thislike.
They constantly ask about, likewonder what it's like to be
famous.
I mean, my daughter wants to bea YouTube sensation and you
know great, and maybe she willbe someday.
But you know, I tell them allthe time I dated this guy for a
(35:25):
long time before I met myhusband and you know we lived
with his parents for about sixmonths and in this huge,
beautiful home it had a movietheater in it, I mean everything
you could ever want in a house.
And they were some of the mostunhappy people I've ever met in
my entire life and I think itjust, you know, I remind them of
that all the time.
I'm like money won't solve yourproblems, it won't make you.
(35:46):
You know, sure, it's great andit's a necessity, right, we all
need money to survive and tohave some of our basic needs met
, but ultimately you can have itall and be miserable.
And so that, just rememberingto like practice what you preach
in those instances, because itis so easy to look at other
people's lives and be like, wow,I wish I just had that, I wish
(36:09):
I could go there, I wish I could, you know, take my kids
overseas every year or everycouple of months, but that's
just not practical for all of us.
And that's okay too, becauseyou know we played four square
out front last night and had agreat time until the very end
when the bugs came out you knowlike who else did that last
(36:29):
night?
Yeah, um, so yeah, I think, justthat constant reminder of of
what you have and just to begrateful for that, yeah, Okay,
well, I have some rapid firequestions from the book.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Can you can.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I ask them Are you ready?
Yeah, I'm ready.
Okay, like I said, there arethe 10 wishes that you have
within there.
Which one was the hardest foryou personally to write?
Experience, and then, I guess,the third part reflect upon
after you put it outside of you.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Time was big because it feels very valuable to me and
I am very much as a self-awareperson, constantly evaluating
how am I using my time.
I think money was hard justbecause it's super broad and I'm
writing from like a veryspecific standpoint and so just
(37:32):
really wanting to like try andmake it broad but also be like
listen, I can't.
I have never lived in apaycheck to paycheck.
We don't know how we're goingto make it situation and I would
never want to assume that Iknew what that was like.
So there was, there werecertain chapters that you know
and again, it's not a, it's nota book that's going to cater to
(37:55):
someone facing tragedy in any ofthese categories, which I, you
know I say that in theintroduction but just really
like wanting to try and broadenmy experience to still be
helpful to people that haven'thad the same experience.
Some chapters that was likethat was probably the hardest
(38:15):
part of like how do I take myexperience?
But like expand it intosomething larger that more
people can like see themselvesin or understand.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just to have that relatability
factor, you know is really,really important.
With all of this, what issomething that if you could
control, or your wish for yourreaders?
What would you want them totake away from the book?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I think, really the thing I said at the beginning
that, like I have gotten theprivilege to know that like, wow
, a lot of other people feelthis, and so I think that if,
like kind of what you weresaying, jenny of, like oh Kate
struggles with this too, like Ithink my hope would be that what
you were saying, jenny of likeoh Kate struggles with this too,
like I think my hope would bethat they see Naptime Kitchen
and they think like her life isjust so put together and so
(39:07):
perfect and she's so happy and Ijust wish my life looked more
like that.
That they would feel like seen,that they would feel like you
know, other people arestruggling with this too.
Or she put words to somethingthat I'm feeling too and I feel
less alone because she's feltthat way too.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, that's great.
So really, it's just creating agreater network of connectivity
, of just the human sharedexperience.
Right yeah, we're all goingthrough this crap.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
The female shared experience, because so many of
those things are, you know,things you share.
And you even say, I think ofone part in talking about your
body image, like you have youknow, great, you've always been
thin and like it doesn't absolveyou from having sort of any
kind of body image issues.
And, to the same point, like Iwould have you know, I would
(40:00):
make a comment at work about youknow, oh, I'm doing this bad
diet because I try everythingand people, why do you need to
do that?
You're already thin and thatdoesn't mean that there aren't
still things about my body thatI don't like or that I'm still
working on to accept.
You know and I think that issuch an important point to make
that it's not necessarily whatother people perceive of you.
(40:23):
It's how we're perceivingourselves and that that internal
dialogue is happening for somany of us.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Okay, this is a silly question and this one I'm
actually stealing from myhusband, who does tons of
interviews for his job, and heactually got this off of a
coworker who was a huge Jaegerscholar, which is a big deal
back here in our small littlestate.
But your Instagram is nap timekitchen.
I swear he asked this ofeverybody.
(40:51):
If you could be a kitchenappliance, what would it be and
why?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Great question Can it be a big one?
I'd be.
If can it be a big one, I'd bea refrigerator, whatever you
want.
Okay, tell me why.
Well, yeah, because it's the,it's the, it's the boss of the
kitchen, it's like it's the best, it's where everything gets
stored.
I mean like there's nothing youuse more than the fridge.
So I feel like it feels likeyou got your fruits and your
(41:21):
vegetables and your dairy andyour meats and I definitely and
I like the fridge it's a part ofthe Naptime Kitchen brand, I
think is that I loverefrigerators.
My fridge is like always prettyclean and it's just a.
It's just a spot for me that Ilike keep pretty organized.
(41:43):
And it is not my friends willtell you I am.
I will go to their house and belike do you want me to just
kind of tidy this up for youwhile we're here?
And they're like, yes, and I'mlike do you have some vinegar.
Yeah, like maybe this, um, thischeese that expired in 2020, you
think I could maybe toss it.
You know, I will go throughsomebody's fridge with delight
(42:07):
and clean it out.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I need to send you to my mom's refrigerator.
It's what we find in there.
Well, I think that it's like astressful.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
It's like people open it a million times a day but
they don't like a lot.
This isn't out of judgment.
This is more like thepracticality piece coming out of
like you open it so much andyou have to get stuff out of it
so much.
To me it just makes sense thatit would be kept cleaner than so
many other areas because it'sthe utility is so high and so
(42:35):
like I can't have like grossbutter.
It's clogging up my butterthing because I gotta have
butter up there constantly.
So I just need it to functionlike very smoothly, which is a
whole nother topic.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I'm guessing the home reset starts with the.
At least I started.
I can't remember if I did it inorder, but I definitely started
with my refrigerator andfreezer.
Yeah, it starts with the fridgebecause of its high utility,
and I will say I do keep a tidyfridge now and I will always,
forever, clean with vinegar andwater because of that.
I was amazed at how well thatworked.
(43:10):
Yes, no more Clorox wipes forme.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Well, gosh, I'm just, I'm really honored that you
were able to come on here and toshare this stuff and for me, as
a psychologist, taking off amom hat and reading your book, I
really appreciated the honesty,vulnerability, but then a very
specific mindset shift, I thinkis what people can hold on to.
(43:33):
And then your unique ability togo through and lay out
practical things, like you said,in a broad manner that can
apply to anybody that picks itup and reads it makes it a very
unique and special book thatanybody can just kind of sit
down and have a range ofemotional experiences with
connections, thought provokingmoments, and it's really, I
(43:58):
think, a gift and a very sweetact that you chose to share this
with everybody.
Thank you, really, I think agift and a very sweet act that
you chose to share this witheverybody.
Thank you, Sarah.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
When does the book come out, Kate?
Do you have a release date?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yes, it comes out August 26th, 26th, Okay, that is
the official release date.
So I mean it's like on theinternet.
Now you can buy it anywhere.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
But it will come out.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yes, you can pre-order it anywhere, but it
will come out on August 26th.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
So we will have a link on our website where you
can pre -order the book onAmazon.
I already have my copy reservedand plans to get several for my
girlfriends, because I thoughtof several friends as I was
reading it.
Oh, they're going to love thisbook, so a great gift for a
girlfriend if you have somebodyin mind as well.
Before we sign off, I want toleave you with a little quote,
(44:46):
because in my gratitude practicein the morning, I journal and I
have these little random cardsthat I pull.
I don't know if you can seethis, but they come with a
little quote.
That sort of like sets the tonefor the day and I thought this
of course, this is the card thatI pulled today.
It this of course, this is thecard that I pulled today.
It's by Albert SchweitzerSchweitzer, I hope I say that
(45:07):
correctly.
It says at times, our own lightgoes out and is rekindled by a
spark from another person.
Each of us has a cause to thinkwith deep gratitude of those
who have lighted the flamewithin us and I thought Kate,
you are a spark and thank you.
We are so grateful that youcame on our little podcast and
shared your book with us.
We really appreciate it thanks,guys.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Thank you for having me yeah, thanks, it's been fun.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
I hope you.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, I hope you enjoyed it all right, all right,
so check us out.
You can catch us onlilaspodcastcom where you can
find resources uh, links to allthe episodes, and you can find
resources links to all theepisodes.
And you can find Kate atNaptime Kitchen on Instagram.
Also, follow us on Instagram atthe Lylas Podcast Until next
week.
Y'all, lylas, we're out, thankyou.
so, yeah, when I was kind of working up the nerve to
ask uh, today's guest to come onthe podcast, I thought for sure
she was going to say somethinglike well, jenny, I'd love to.
But you know, I got mel robbinsnext week and then Oprah called
and she wants to have me on andso, luckily for us, by the
grace of God, she agreed to comeon the little podcast that
(00:33):
could, the Lylas podcast.
So we're so excited to have aspecial guest today.
Content creator.
I call her an influencerbecause she influences me all
the time, much to my husband'sdismay, I'm sure.
But a new author as well addedto her resume.
We have none other than KateStrickler from Naptown Kitchen.
(00:55):
Kate, welcome to the Live thisPodcast.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Thank you for having me To be clear, don't worry, Mel
Robbins nor Oprah are knockingon my door, so, but you are kind
.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
They just haven't read the book yet.
Kate, as soon as they do.
I have a feeling they will.
I'm so excited to talk about thebook and that we got a sneak
peek.
I already have my copypre-ordered, but to have a sneak
peek to it and to really have achance to talk to you about it,
I'm so excited because I knowhow hard you've worked on it
just from following you.
(01:28):
But also it's really, I think,something that a lot of women
are going to relate to and gogosh, is she in my head?
Did she steal my thoughts?
How did she write the thingsthat I'm thinking all the time?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, thank you.
I'm glad that we're at thelaunch part after the year of
writing, so I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, for those of you, if you've never heard of
Kate or Naptime Kitchen, you canfind her on Instagram.
She gives a lot of practicalsort of mom hacks I know you
probably hate that word by now,but just hacks on like how to
make life a little easier.
But give us an idea.
I'm curious because I've neverasked you this question before.
(02:13):
What is your background?
Like, what did you go to?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
college for.
So I majored in exercisescience and did personal
training.
After college.
I taught classes until I was 38weeks pregnant with John Robert
, so with my first and, and thenafterward like loosely did, but
it didn't make sense reallyfrom a childcare perspective.
(02:35):
So yeah, that was my background.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Okay, and so then, how was Naptime Kitchen born
after that?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So he was born in June.
So I finished working like lateMay.
He was born in June of 2015.
And really by January I justwas pretty like bored at home.
I mean, like he, you know, hehad requirements of me, but he
was napping twice a day and Ijust needed an outlet and I love
to cook and so I was cookingpretty elaborately at the time
(03:08):
and just decided to make anInstagram for, like photos of
food.
And this was like way back inthe day, Instagram was like not
fancy, it was just a square witha caption and I would just like
share what I was cooking.
And really it was like myfamily members were following me
.
It was super small.
I did not think anything of it.
It was just like a creativeoutlet to cook.
(03:30):
And then Instagram stories cameabout when my after my second
was born and that was like areally fun like oh, now there's
like everyday kind of video,kind of content thrown in there,
and and then, yeah, I just kindof never stopped posting, I
guess, and it evolved.
Yeah, it just evolved as we hadmore kids and moved and
(03:52):
everything like that.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, that's one thing that I really gathered
from your Instagram and evenfrom reading the book that
without having them, there'sreally not a nap time kitchen.
There's really not a greaterwish that we kind of go through
in our lives because our kidsand our family influence so much
of who we are, and you've beenable to beautifully join all of
(04:14):
the intricacies, the you know,the fun train wrecks that happen
with it and have created thisuniquely refreshing, real kind
of vulnerable, open perspectiveas to what it's like to actually
be doing all of this, with allof these responsibilities that
(04:34):
are like tangible and outside ofwho we are.
But then you also are willingto share like those inner
vulnerabilities that we have,like those inner messages that
are constantly playing while wehave these little actors or
family members or you know,whatever these things are in the
universe around us, and so Ithink that's really cool that
you have that joining spiritwith it, and how has that kind
(04:58):
of evolved for you over time?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I think it just really has been like out of
necessity and it just it hasevolved as our life has changed.
So again, like was cookingelaborate meals that took a lot
of time, and then it was theearly days of motherhood, and
now my kids are becoming moreand more school age.
So I'm like I even I feel likeanother shift happening and like
, for the first time ever, wehave swim team and I'm like, oh
(05:23):
my gosh, now we're like eatingdinner at the pool.
Like I just feel like it's justevolved, as I have evolved in
terms of what our life is doing.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's so much more relatable and the fact that you
are able to do that on such afar-reaching platform is
admirable.
I know, when we even startedthis podcast, you know it's hard
in the beginning to putyourself out there and to tell
some of like your darkest ordeepest secrets.
And the more you do it, themore like liberated you feel and
(05:54):
all of a sudden it's it's notas hard, and I imagine it was
probably the same way for youthat first time you turned the
camera on and talk to it.
You know you're like Whoa, youknow, um, but now it's probably
just.
I mean, I see you strollingthrough the neighborhood and
you're not worried about who'swatching, or you know, or maybe
you are, I don't know, but itjust seems like it probably gets
easier.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, it definitely does.
And now too, I mean especiallylike if you see me in the
neighborhood, half the timepeople are on their phones like
FaceTiming.
I'm like people don't know whatI'm doing over here anyways,
but I don't.
Yeah, it almost just feels likeI've been doing it so long.
I don't even really think aboutit.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's almost like second nature at this point.
Well, I definitely want to talka little bit, or a lot of bit,
about this book, because so manythings resonated with me to the
point I was like, are we thesame person?
Like there were so many thingsthat were just spot on.
Besides, you've got at leastfive inches on me, but beyond
that, like you, you literallytook thoughts out of my head and
(06:54):
so many things from, like youknow, when Sarah and I both
walked away and I say walkedaway from our careers, but like
the career path that we hadchosen, that we had gone to
school for and trained for andbeen in for almost two decades,
we both you know, it's kind ofwhere this podcast came from but
we were both like well, who arewe outside of being
psychologists?
Like what?
You know that the first timeyou meet somebody, that's the
(07:16):
first thing you tell them well,this is what I do for a living.
And so I really struggled withit.
In the beginning, I felt thisneed to like bring it up in
conversation, like, oh, I usedto do this, I used to be
somebody.
And then, over time, I was like, well, you know, that's, it's
okay, but generally people justdon't really care.
I think or I I was giving itway more weight than other
(07:36):
people were but this whole likeidea of like we attach ourselves
to our profession, you know, Ithink, is I didn't realize I
wasn't that I was the onlyperson that felt that way.
And so reading that in yourbook, you know, even though
you're relating it to somebodyelse or you know, to women as
well, some friends, it just itwas like oh okay, I'm not alone
(07:59):
in how this feels.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, and that everyone's feeling it for
themselves.
It's like I think we're.
We so often think it's likepeople are so much more
concerned with themselves thanwith us than we realize that
everyone's kind of leaving beinglike what did I say, who was I
there?
When we're wondering what didthey think of what I said?
And it's like they're reallythinking about what they said.
(08:22):
You know, it's like we're allkind of in this identity,
figuring out who we are andwhere we fit in in friendships
and in motherhood and like allthese things.
Everyone's in that journey offiguring those things out.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But I think what you do so nicely within the book,
though, is that you are able tosuccinctly kind of identify with
these.
I wish statements, and I don'tknow that we really pay
attention to that internaldialogue that we have, so how
were you able to really zone into yourself to come up with
(08:57):
these?
I mean spoiler alert, there's10.
I wish statements.
That really kind of send us attimes in a spiral, but where did
your awareness of this kind ofcome from?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, it took a year to write, so definitely took
some time, but I think I justwas able to well one from being
online for so long.
My friends would say I'm a veryself-aware person, maybe to a
fault.
I'm very aware of how I'm doing, what I'm struggling with, what
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feels hard at any given time,or to be like this is bothering
me.
I'm not sure why.
I need to figure out why thisspecific thing is bothering me
or why did that comment hurt myfeelings.
I'm pretty in tune with what'sgoing on with me and so I'm
probably that over.
Self-awareness was probably, inthis instance, the negative of
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it can be.
I can leave someplace and belike oh, what did I say?
What you know?
How did I feel?
What do people think?
The positive is that in thissituation, it like was able to
be channeled into these chaptersthat I've, like I've actually
really have had the awareness tobe like I know I have thought
these things.
And then also it's when Ithere's certain things that when
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I say them online, the likeinflux of response is really
huge.
For instance, I did a storywhere I was like starting
Accutane and I was just saying,like for me skin has been really
hard.
For instance, I did a storywhere I was like starting
Accutane and I was just sayinglike for me, skin has been
really hard and so on otherpeople.
I notice it and like peoplehave their own like proverbial
thing.
It's like whether it'ssomebody's hair or their body
(10:38):
size, like there are all thesedifferent things, and it's like
whatever you're personallystruggling with is what you
mirror in everyone you'relooking at.
And I got this like influx ofcomments of just like that, like
, yes, I struggle with this, Istruggle with this, I struggle
with this.
And so in like a book writingprocess, I think I had the
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confidence to know I know I'mnot the only one struggling with
this, to know I know I'm notthe only one struggling with
this.
Like I'm writing aboutsomething that I have heard over
and over and over again peoplesay to back to me when I do like
choose to be vulnerable andthen hear back.
So I think that it was like Ihad kind of a collective
experience of a lot of people tohelp me in whatever the chapter
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was.
So, yeah, that helped.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, that just had to be so validating for you to,
on a personal level though, tolike again be vulnerable, but
then to have other people belike girl me too.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yes, it is a pro of social media for sure is to get
to feel it on a larger level.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Where do you think that self-awareness comes from,
or how do you think youdeveloped it?
Because I mean, you're young.
You're at least five, six yearsyounger than we are and I kept
thinking like, wow, she is soahead of her time.
So where do you think thatself-awareness comes from?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I have no idea, jenny , I don't know, I really don't
know.
I mean know, I really don'tknow.
I mean probably part of beingthe weird part of this job.
I think I've been self-awarebefore this job.
Like I've been like anintrospective journaler,
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especially like in my prayerlife with God.
Like that is something that Iam talking to God about, and so
I think, partly when I go tolike pray about something, it is
causing me to bring it to thesurface.
And so in bringing it to thesurface, I'm making myself aware
of it.
Like I'm not just like stuffingsomething down, I'm saying like
I'm having a really hard timetoday with contentment in my
home, like I'm a little bitpissed, I just I am feeling
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suffocated and when I say itthen it like brings it to the
table from an awarenessstandpoint, versus just being
like it's fine, it's fine,everything's fine.
I'm just going to like pushthis under the rug, and so, and
then I think, being online, myself-awareness has probably
skyrocketed because I am there'svery few people like I don't
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have a boss evaluating me.
(13:33):
The only boss is the Instagramalgorithm, which, nate, is like
the steady ship to my storm andhe's not super active on social
media, but very much understandssocial media, understands how
it works.
So I think that when I'mfeeling like I'm trying to
figure out where I fit into thislike stormy ocean of social
media, he's much more able to belike this is who you are, this
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is what matters, you know thingslike that.
But I don't have a performancereview Like.
So I have to kind of be likehow is my work level going?
Am I overly stressed?
Because if I'm overly stressed,I have the power to dial it
back.
I just have to make myself dialit back.
So it probably comes a lot toofrom like a lot of
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self-evaluation of what'sworking, what's not.
How am I feeling about what'sworking?
Because I luckily it's like agreat blessing, but I get to
choose how I do this job.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well, and like you said too, it's not even like
it's a job, because you're areflection of your true life.
You're a reflection of your truethoughts of what's happening
there within your family as well, and I think one of the great
things about the book is thateach chapter you provide a
beautiful foundation or storyabout what's kind of happening
(14:53):
within your life that relates tothat context, whether it's I
wish I had a better kitchen, Iwish what was it?
I was a better mom, right, andthe stories that go along with
that just resonate so much likewith what Jen says, what so many
of us feel.
But then what you're able to dois be self-aware and not
self-critical.
And so in the book you come upwith these mindset shifts that
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are really grounding ways for usto kind of relate to.
But then you came up with thesepractical tips to help us to
get there.
Where did those?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
come from.
Yeah, the practicality piece.
It felt like very necessary,because that is really such a
huge part of like what NaptimeKitchen does to write a book.
That was sort of philosophicalbut not practical.
It would almost be like this isnot the way Kate's brain works,
and so I was thinking becauseyou know, y'all had sent me some
(15:49):
questions.
One of them was like where doyou think up this stuff?
Like, where did the life hacksor you know hacks come from?
Well, one, my parents are bothlike very practical people, like
in the funniest of ways, likeif my dad wants something in the
garage, he's gonna like finaglehow to put it up and like use a
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zip tie.
I mean it's very handy, very,very handy, but just they're
very practical in like solvingproblems and coming up with
solutions, and so I think mybrain works that way too, like
if there's something that'sbothering me in my house or what
like I'm going to be like likewhat can I do, what can I buy,
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what can I make to make thiseasier?
And so, with with these likebigger topics, I was like no
really, though, how do Iactually improve my marriage
when I'm feeling like I wish Ihad a better husband?
Or how do I actually like helpmyself out of a deep pit when
I'm struggling with body image?
(16:52):
Like don't just tell me likeyou're beautiful and uniquely
made, but like no, what are somepractical things that could
actually help me?
And that's.
I think that's where a lot ofbooks I would get frustrated of,
like okay, that was like somereally great mindset stuff, but
like I need you to help me knowwhat to do.
So, you know that that'sprobably where the practical
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comes from is that's just likehow I function, sometimes to a
fault, from a practicalstandpoint.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So You're a problem solver at heart.
Yes, it's like bring me allyour problems.
I did wonder as I was readingthe book, and it sounds like
maybe you do this through prayer, but do you meditate?
Do you have any kind ofmeditation practice?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I don't.
Oh, Jenny, I think I would die.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, because you are kind of busy, like you said.
You know self self-described asbusy, you like to be moving.
You remind me a lot of mymother-in-law, like she can't
sit still, she's go, go, go, go.
But I I do think sometimes thatthat's the type of person that
benefits maybe the most from ameditation practice, and the
(18:04):
reason I kept thinking that isjust because and you sort of got
you alluded to this when youwere talking about, like through
your prayer it really helps youto become self-aware.
I would say that's the numberone thing that it has helped me
with, you know, in terms andspecifically anxiety, because I
too have struggled with anxietymy entire life, as long as I can
remember.
But it is something that hashelped me realize what I can
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control, what's out of mycontrol, and then really like,
make a plan for okay, like howam I going to move through this?
And so I just I kept comingback to I wonder if she's ever
explored just like two minutes aday, like guided meditation.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
No, I bet that is similar like guided meditation.
No, I, I bet that is similar.
Like I, when I'm doneexercising and before I go out,
like I sit at my desk I have mybible and I have my journal and
that's kind of my like.
So it may be a similar and agrounding sense of like.
That's like my five to tenminutes of just kind of like
what does the day hold, how am Ifeeling, what do I need help
with?
Kind of like, what does the dayhold, how am I feeling, what do
(19:04):
I need help with?
Kind of thought process.
But I try, not perfectly, butto do that in the mornings
before I go out to the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So I'm a big believer in a gratitude journal.
I I also.
I just write down five things,everything every day that I'm
grateful for, most days, Ishould say, and then five wishes
, and then I close my journaland I send them out into the
universe and I say, or somethingbetter right, because we don't
know what's headed our way likea year, and read some of those
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things and see what's come tofruition and realize that you
know, sometimes just putting itout there is enough, you don't,
you know that's all you have todo.
And for me, I think that that'sjust something that has helped
to reaffirm that, like, thereare things we have control over
and some things we don't.
And if you're somebody thatlives with anxiety, you know how
difficult that is to not beable to control things,
particularly when it comes to,like, your kids or safety.
(20:05):
You know those types of things,yeah, but big believer in a
gratitude journal.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Well, I think, to kind of join what you both were
saying, that's kind of what youhit on the last chapter of the
book.
Whenever you're talking about alife that you love Right
chapter of the book, wheneveryou're talking about a life that
you love right, it's almostlike a form of like radical
acceptance, where you have toaccept that some of these things
are just what they are.
And now here we are, kind of athing.
Is that something that you findyourself like coming to
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throughout each day, especiallywhenever you're, you know,
living a life with four kidsrunning around and now swim,
practice, managing your career,their school life, like all of
that stuff?
Where do you go to in thosemoments, like, what are your
most practical practices thatyou put in place then?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, we definitely have like really solid time
rhythms in our house and so,like I wake up in the morning
and exercise from six to seven,and that like is just the
beginning of my day.
And then I get to go into thekitchen and like do breakfast
with the kids, make lunches,like we have very strong weekly
(21:11):
rhythms and then the kids gethome at 3.30 and I'm usually
done for the day by 3.30.
So I'm like thinking about them.
What do we need to do?
You know, do we have soccer,like just kind of headed into
that part of the day, and thenlike the bedtime routine.
So I feel like our rhythm isreally strong and it's
interesting because, like, comethe end of May, like Nate will
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want to sit down and talk withme about the summer rhythm,
because it is.
It just feels like our kidswill need it too.
Like they, I don't think theyrealize how much the rhythm
helps them.
And then, when it's gone, it'slike, ah, like when can we watch
TV?
When can we eat a snack?
What are we doing today?
And I'm like, oh, they're likethrown off, like they don't want
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to be in school.
But we do need some, like theyneed some expectations, and so
maybe that's the other word it'slike expectations of what's
like what's coming in the day,so I mean those and then, like
on a spiritual level, likeprayer is very grounding to me,
like just kind of somecommunication with God
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throughout the day.
I mean, like yesterday I was inthe car and we were leaving swim
and I was just in the worstmood and I was like moody
towards Johnny and I did not.
I just kind of like at thestoplight, was like God, I am
just pissed and I'm not sure why, but I just need like I just
need some help.
And then I like turned toJohnny and I was like hey, I'm
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just I'm sorry, I'm just kind ofin a bad mood.
And I, it's not a big deal thatyou took two pieces of gum,
like cause.
I was like why did you like weonly take one piece of gum?
And he took two and he's liketrying to spit one out.
I was like just take them, justtake the two pieces.
Do you think that gum justgrows on trees?
We need to be sparing with thegum.
(23:01):
They eat so much gum.
We go through a lot of gum.
But it's just like hey, man,I'm like I'm sorry, the gum
thing was not that big of a deal.
I was just kind of in a bad mood, so quickly apologizing to John
Robert and quickly just beinglike I don't know I'm taking
something out on my son that hedidn't even really do wrong.
I don't know why I'm in a badmood.
(23:22):
So to me those kind of come outas prayers of like, just can
you help me, god?
I don't know what's, I don'tknow why I'm feeling this way
right now, but I am.
So I'm not sure if I fullyanswered the question, but
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no-transcript something we don'tdo.
But like last night they werelike can we watch Planet Earth?
And it does feel like come Maywe are like starting to get more
lax, like it's just light out,everyone's ready for summer,
like a lot of, and again we'redoing swim teams.
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So that's like throwing off ourevenings anyway.
And I was like, yes, like let'swatch an episode of Planet
Earth.
So it was kind of fun becauseit was like we ended the night
with just like watching likewhales and you know, flamingos
and all this stuff, and I waslike, oh, what a great end to
the day, like it was.
It was almost like I broke myown rule that we have and it was
(24:45):
just.
It was like we all just neededit on a Monday night in these
like final weeks of school, justto listen to what's his name
David Attenborough.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
The planet earth guy's voice that's so calming
and um, so the day ended okay,all that to say, but curious how
you handle that, because wehave taken a page out of your
book and and done away withtechnology during the week.
Um, they can watch a show, butlike that no more ipads, no more
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games, you know that kind ofstuff, just to to like let's
play outside more, and for allof us like let's put our phones
down, my husband and I, all thethings.
But then the weekend comes andit's almost like and maybe it's
because we've only been doingthis a month, but it's like.
They're like I finally get mygadget or I can finally play my,
whatever it is, and it's likethey all you know, to the point
(25:42):
where they want to sit on it forlike hours.
And we're like, no, no, no,that's not what you're trying to
do.
Um, so have you experiencedthat as well?
Or is it?
You know, since it was never athing like it, you know, maybe
they're not as no, they likehave a binge fest Saturday
morning is like hours.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
They wake up, they're allowed to start watching at
seven.
They don't need to ask afterseven they can start watching.
And so Nate and I can sleep inbecause they just like wake up
and start watching.
And it's like sometimes at likenine, 30, we're like maybe we
should make them turn it offsoon.
It's been two and a half hours,but I'm like I I remember doing
that as a kid.
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I remember just being like I amjust going to completely veg
out and watch cartoons onSaturday morning.
And so to me I'm just maybe,because I did it, I'm like man,
you just binge Dude, perfect fora couple of hours and just, and
then, you know, usually aroundlike 9.30 or 10, we're like, all
(26:37):
right, guys, let's turn it off,and we kind of go throughout
the day and then at night theycan usually watch again.
Um, like we'll watch a movie,or um, it's getting harder with
the age gap of like what movieto watch um but and our ipad
broke, which actually was great.
(26:57):
It like broke, one of the kidsdropped in and smashed and I was
like you know what, like, let'snot replace it.
So they don't have.
They only have the TVs which Imean they can watch.
They can get to YouTube, whichwe used to not allow YouTube
because it was so bothering tome of the crap but all they want
to watch is Dude Perfect rightnow, which I'm a huge Dude
Perfect fan, so I'm like you canwatch that to your heart's
(27:19):
content.
I'm a huge Dude Perfect fan, soI'm like you can watch that to
your heart's content.
But kind of on the weekends wejust like we let them have a
little bit more freedom to justgo ham.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Again a very practical solution right there.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Exactly that's what I mean when I say like wise
beyond your years.
I'm like, you're younger thanme, but you have all the answers
, Kate?
Like I do not, but you at leasthave an idea and I'm a little
bit more of like I'm not reallysure what to do or what.
You know, I go extremelyrestrictive and that doesn't
tend to work out well foranybody.
(27:54):
But another thing, kind ofgetting back to what you talked
about, sort of at the end of thebook because I think I told you
this yesterday Like I laughed,I cried, that last chapter
really got me on many differentlevels.
But one thing is really just itsparked this idea, you know,
kind of creating this life thatyou love.
And when I took a year off ofwork, about halfway through Jeff
(28:18):
lost his job and so we foundourselves both at home, not
working for maybe like six weeks, and so we got into this show
called A Rich Life.
Have you ever heard of this?
I think it was on.
Netflix that we watched Um andI'm not even going to try to say
the man's name, I'm sure I'llbutcher it, but it's basically
this idea where he, he has youreally think about.
(28:40):
You know, what does your richlife look like?
Not what society tells you arich life is, but like what's
important to you.
So like we, we sort of made alist.
Like it's things like pickingour kids up from school, you
know, having the ability to biketo school and go on, like
several mini vacationsthroughout the year, not not
necessarily like big grandvacations where we're taking
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them overseas, but like maybe wevacations throughout the year,
not necessarily like big grandvacations where we're taking
them overseas, but like maybe wepop somewhere for the weekend
or go visit friends.
We haven't seen in years thosetypes of things.
But so we really just took timeto like list out what does our
rich life look like.
And that was so helpful, notjust for me, the spender in the
family, because my husband isthe save every penny, I'm the
(29:20):
spend every penny.
Like you're dying tomorrow,hence why I'm an influencer
stream, by the way, but he, youknow, it helped me to really
look at okay, like if I wantthese things like one of our
goals is to retire in our 50sand so like, if I really want
this, then I have to think aboutdo I need a new outfit every
(29:41):
week or do I need to buy, youknow, all the latest and
greatest?
And so it just I was curious.
You know, reading it I was likeI wonder if they've ever
watched that show, because I,you know it was very.
There were some similaritiesthere and that, like you're
really creating the life thatthat is important to you, that
is rich to you not necessarilysociety's measure.
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And I forget what you call it inthe book.
You call it like your internalmeasuring stick or something.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The inner and outer scorecard.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
That's what it's a scorecard.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yes, which we totally ripped off from Warren Buffett,
who maybe he ripped it off fromsomeone else Nate would know,
but Nate is a huge WarrenBuffett fan.
But Nate is better at the innerversus outer scorecard than I am
.
I think it is harder whenyou're on social media but, yes,
(30:31):
just the like what is actuallyimportant to me, and like you
were saying, like picking upyour kids from school, that's
like I had never thought of thatand I was like it's so true you
get to pick your kids up fromschool.
That's like I had never thoughtof that and I was like it's so
true, like you get to pick yourkids up from school and so it
might mean that you lose some.
You know you lose out on somethings, but if they're not on
your scorecard, why do you evencare?
But the things that are on yourscorecard that you're like
(30:52):
getting an A in that matter toyou, then it like gives you a
rich life.
But you've got I think I saythis in the book it's like
you've got to keep your eyes onyour scorecard because you can't
get an A on your scorecard andsomeone else's scorecard and
this scorecard.
It's just not possible, right,which is hard for me.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I'd like to get all A's in all, in all areas, In all
(31:33):
the things, In all the things.
Yeah, speeding off to get towork by 6.50 and then you pick
them up at you know four o'clockand then you rush at home to
make dinner and, like I didn'teven realize, I think back then
that that might be somethingimportant to me, like biking to
school and having that like 10minutes of like conversation
about what your day was like.
(31:54):
Because I was so frazzled, sucha like shell of myself by the
time I decided to walk away fromthat.
And what I think was what mademe emotional about the last
chapter of that book was I had alot of compassion for that
woman that was doing what shethought she was supposed to be
doing.
Right, I had the career I wascontributing financially to my
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family.
I had two kids that were wellcared for and I knew where they
were at during the day and theywere learning and all the things
that we think they're supposedto be doing.
But at the end of the day, itreally wasn't what was most
important to me, which is justtime with them.
Like it became so apparent to methat they're going to grow up
in the blink of an eye and Idon't want to miss those little
(32:39):
like 10 minutes a day where Ican have a conversation with
them and not feel like annoyedthat I'm not doing something
else to be productive.
I don't know if that makessense, but, like you know, like
I could fully be present andhave conversations and want to
be with them and and not justlike, oh, I got to get through
this because I got to do thisnext and this, and then tomorrow
starts all over.
(32:59):
You know, there's a realfreedom that comes in deciding
like, OK, that's actually reallyimportant to me and I'm going
to have to make some adjustmentsto my life in order to have
those needs met.
So, yeah, I, that was, that wasa big one for me.
Just that, you know, validationor that like compassion of like
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she was doing the best shecould but she didn't realize she
didn't have to do all that.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, I think too.
I talk about this in the intro,but something that I think
about often, as I like play thelottery in my head of like if
I'm struggling with something,I'll be like what if you threw
your name in the hat and youcould trade with, just at random
somebody else whose name is inthe hat?
And the answer is, like always,no, like always, whether it's
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like all right, throw your namein the hat and you could trade
with anybody in the world's home.
It's like the chances ofgetting a nicer house, better
health, a better family, likeI'm like I would never trade any
of it.
So that kind of similarly, it'slike that is my kind of thing I
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do in my head and it justimmediately like brings me back
to like you are so, so lucky,kate, like just and you know
somebody hearing this might feellike no, I don't feel that way,
I would put my name in the ring.
But it just like it's likereally makes me feel like the
chances of pulling somethingbetter than what I have are so
(34:33):
low.
And then, even if it was better, like it's not mine and I want
what like.
It's like like you know what ifI had a different life without
my family, without my kids, likeI don't know, that's just.
It brings me back to like justhow specific and special what I
have is, and I like really don'twant to trade that, even though
(34:58):
I can quickly be like, oh, Iwant that or that or that.
It's like you really you reallydon't.
You got a pretty good here,kate.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
So, and even if you get all those things, there's no
guarantee that it's going tomake you happy.
I say you know my kids have thislike.
They constantly ask about, likewonder what it's like to be
famous.
I mean, my daughter wants to bea YouTube sensation and you
know great, and maybe she willbe someday.
But you know, I tell them allthe time I dated this guy for a
(35:25):
long time before I met myhusband and you know we lived
with his parents for about sixmonths and in this huge,
beautiful home it had a movietheater in it, I mean everything
you could ever want in a house.
And they were some of the mostunhappy people I've ever met in
my entire life and I think itjust, you know, I remind them of
that all the time.
I'm like money won't solve yourproblems, it won't make you.
(35:46):
You know, sure, it's great andit's a necessity, right, we all
need money to survive and tohave some of our basic needs met
, but ultimately you can have itall and be miserable.
And so that, just rememberingto like practice what you preach
in those instances, because itis so easy to look at other
people's lives and be like, wow,I wish I just had that, I wish
(36:09):
I could go there, I wish I could, you know, take my kids
overseas every year or everycouple of months, but that's
just not practical for all of us.
And that's okay too, becauseyou know we played four square
out front last night and had agreat time until the very end
when the bugs came out you knowlike who else did that last
(36:29):
night?
Yeah, um, so yeah, I think, justthat constant reminder of of
what you have and just to begrateful for that, yeah, Okay,
well, I have some rapid firequestions from the book.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Can you can.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I ask them Are you ready?
Yeah, I'm ready.
Okay, like I said, there arethe 10 wishes that you have
within there.
Which one was the hardest foryou personally to write?
Experience, and then, I guess,the third part reflect upon
after you put it outside of you.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Time was big because it feels very valuable to me and
I am very much as a self-awareperson, constantly evaluating
how am I using my time.
I think money was hard justbecause it's super broad and I'm
writing from like a veryspecific standpoint and so just
(37:32):
really wanting to like try andmake it broad but also be like
listen, I can't.
I have never lived in apaycheck to paycheck.
We don't know how we're goingto make it situation and I would
never want to assume that Iknew what that was like.
So there was, there werecertain chapters that you know
and again, it's not a, it's nota book that's going to cater to
(37:55):
someone facing tragedy in any ofthese categories, which I, you
know I say that in theintroduction but just really
like wanting to try and broadenmy experience to still be
helpful to people that haven'thad the same experience.
Some chapters that was likethat was probably the hardest
(38:15):
part of like how do I take myexperience?
But like expand it intosomething larger that more
people can like see themselvesin or understand.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just to have that relatability
factor, you know is really,really important.
With all of this, what issomething that if you could
control, or your wish for yourreaders?
What would you want them totake away from the book?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I think, really the thing I said at the beginning
that, like I have gotten theprivilege to know that like, wow
, a lot of other people feelthis, and so I think that if,
like kind of what you weresaying, jenny of, like oh Kate
struggles with this too, like Ithink my hope would be that what
you were saying, jenny of likeoh Kate struggles with this too,
like I think my hope would bethat they see Naptime Kitchen
and they think like her life isjust so put together and so
(39:07):
perfect and she's so happy and Ijust wish my life looked more
like that.
That they would feel like seen,that they would feel like you
know, other people arestruggling with this too.
Or she put words to somethingthat I'm feeling too and I feel
less alone because she's feltthat way too.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, that's great.
So really, it's just creating agreater network of connectivity
, of just the human sharedexperience.
Right yeah, we're all goingthrough this crap.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
The female shared experience, because so many of
those things are, you know,things you share.
And you even say, I think ofone part in talking about your
body image, like you have youknow, great, you've always been
thin and like it doesn't absolveyou from having sort of any
kind of body image issues.
And, to the same point, like Iwould have you know, I would
(40:00):
make a comment at work about youknow, oh, I'm doing this bad
diet because I try everythingand people, why do you need to
do that?
You're already thin and thatdoesn't mean that there aren't
still things about my body thatI don't like or that I'm still
working on to accept.
You know and I think that issuch an important point to make
that it's not necessarily whatother people perceive of you.
(40:23):
It's how we're perceivingourselves and that that internal
dialogue is happening for somany of us.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Okay, this is a silly question and this one I'm
actually stealing from myhusband, who does tons of
interviews for his job, and heactually got this off of a
coworker who was a huge Jaegerscholar, which is a big deal
back here in our small littlestate.
But your Instagram is nap timekitchen.
I swear he asked this ofeverybody.
(40:51):
If you could be a kitchenappliance, what would it be and
why?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Great question Can it be a big one?
I'd be.
If can it be a big one, I'd bea refrigerator, whatever you
want.
Okay, tell me why.
Well, yeah, because it's the,it's the, it's the boss of the
kitchen, it's like it's the best, it's where everything gets
stored.
I mean like there's nothing youuse more than the fridge.
So I feel like it feels likeyou got your fruits and your
(41:21):
vegetables and your dairy andyour meats and I definitely and
I like the fridge it's a part ofthe Naptime Kitchen brand, I
think is that I loverefrigerators.
My fridge is like always prettyclean and it's just a.
It's just a spot for me that Ilike keep pretty organized.
(41:43):
And it is not my friends willtell you I am.
I will go to their house and belike do you want me to just
kind of tidy this up for youwhile we're here?
And they're like, yes, and I'mlike do you have some vinegar.
Yeah, like maybe this, um, thischeese that expired in 2020, you
think I could maybe toss it.
You know, I will go throughsomebody's fridge with delight
(42:07):
and clean it out.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I need to send you to my mom's refrigerator.
It's what we find in there.
Well, I think that it's like astressful.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
It's like people open it a million times a day but
they don't like a lot.
This isn't out of judgment.
This is more like thepracticality piece coming out of
like you open it so much andyou have to get stuff out of it
so much.
To me it just makes sense thatit would be kept cleaner than so
many other areas because it'sthe utility is so high and so
(42:35):
like I can't have like grossbutter.
It's clogging up my butterthing because I gotta have
butter up there constantly.
So I just need it to functionlike very smoothly, which is a
whole nother topic.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I'm guessing the home reset starts with the.
At least I started.
I can't remember if I did it inorder, but I definitely started
with my refrigerator andfreezer.
Yeah, it starts with the fridgebecause of its high utility,
and I will say I do keep a tidyfridge now and I will always,
forever, clean with vinegar andwater because of that.
I was amazed at how well thatworked.
(43:10):
Yes, no more Clorox wipes forme.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Well, gosh, I'm just, I'm really honored that you
were able to come on here and toshare this stuff and for me, as
a psychologist, taking off amom hat and reading your book, I
really appreciated the honesty,vulnerability, but then a very
specific mindset shift, I thinkis what people can hold on to.
(43:33):
And then your unique ability togo through and lay out
practical things, like you said,in a broad manner that can
apply to anybody that picks itup and reads it makes it a very
unique and special book thatanybody can just kind of sit
down and have a range ofemotional experiences with
connections, thought provokingmoments, and it's really, I
(43:58):
think, a gift and a very sweetact that you chose to share this
with everybody.
Thank you, really, I think agift and a very sweet act that
you chose to share this witheverybody.
Thank you, Sarah.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
When does the book come out, Kate?
Do you have a release date?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yes, it comes out August 26th, 26th, Okay, that is
the official release date.
So I mean it's like on theinternet.
Now you can buy it anywhere.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
But it will come out.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yes, you can pre-order it anywhere, but it
will come out on August 26th.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
So we will have a link on our website where you
can pre -order the book onAmazon.
I already have my copy reservedand plans to get several for my
girlfriends, because I thoughtof several friends as I was
reading it.
Oh, they're going to love thisbook, so a great gift for a
girlfriend if you have somebodyin mind as well.
Before we sign off, I want toleave you with a little quote,
(44:46):
because in my gratitude practicein the morning, I journal and I
have these little random cardsthat I pull.
I don't know if you can seethis, but they come with a
little quote.
That sort of like sets the tonefor the day and I thought this
of course, this is the card thatI pulled today.
It this of course, this is thecard that I pulled today.
It's by Albert SchweitzerSchweitzer, I hope I say that
(45:07):
correctly.
It says at times, our own lightgoes out and is rekindled by a
spark from another person.
Each of us has a cause to thinkwith deep gratitude of those
who have lighted the flamewithin us and I thought Kate,
you are a spark and thank you.
We are so grateful that youcame on our little podcast and
shared your book with us.
We really appreciate it thanks,guys.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Thank you for having me yeah, thanks, it's been fun.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
I hope you.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, I hope you enjoyed it all right, all right,
so check us out.
You can catch us onlilaspodcastcom where you can
find resources uh, links to allthe episodes, and you can find
resources links to all theepisodes.
And you can find Kate atNaptime Kitchen on Instagram.
Also, follow us on Instagram atthe Lylas Podcast Until next
week.
Y'all, lylas, we're out, thankyou.
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