March 5, 2024 • 66 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Take a breath, let's die then.
Someone that I highly respectonce said we're all unpaid
actors living out scripts thatwe didn't write, and it's so
profound.
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So today we're going to discusswhere are we at in our goals
that we set out for the NewYear's, being that we're
entering the second quarter ofthe year it is now the month of
March have we stayed the coursewhen it came to our New Year's
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resolutions?
Are we on track or are wefalling behind?
Are we stagnant?
Regardless of where you are,there's still a year left to be
completed.
This journey isn't over, andmaybe this will be your year
that you get to check things offof that list that you wrote and
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you can have some sense ofaccountability and know that
Valentine's Day happened.
Maybe your goal was to lose 20pounds and for some reason, you
gained five, and that's okay.
Remain motivated, stay thecourse, be vigilant and know
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that you're human and you makemistakes.
And, with that said, let's getinto today's episode.
Thank you for joining theMagnificent Ones podcast.
On tonight's episode, we'regoing to discuss New Year's
resolutions, and where are wewith our goals?
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Tonight, I have another guestby the name of Daniel that we
just have a two for now.
Back to back Daniels on theMagnificent Ones podcast.
Daniel, why don't you introduceyourself and who you are
essentially, and maybe some ofyour interests and likes, and
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let's dive into New Year'sresolutions and where we are
with them and also, do you havethem or believe in them?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Hello Daniel, don't think I'm too much of an
interesting fellow.
Usually the work come home, dothings stay alive, shower, eat,
sleep, repeat it all Notnecessarily a stressful
situation.
I have some free time to myself, which I currently been using
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to reevaluate my hobbies andalso reevaluate or just continue
to explore what I want out oflife.
So New Year's resolutionscorrect.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What are one of your hobbies?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
One of my hobbies.
Okay, so the various aspects ofprogramming usually more
catered towards game design, butit can also be it's programming
right.
You can branch out to softwareengineering or using it as a
means to automate everydaythings You're so inclined, or
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just problem solving in general,which is something I really
tried to refine as a muscle I'velet weaken over time.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So for you personally , like what?
Obviously we'll go into NewYear's resolutions and goals and
stuff, but what got you intovideo games or programming?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The video games for you.
The video games was justbecause I grew up with them.
I think a lot of people likethat.
They got a console young, as achild as many as many do.
But I think what probably gotme into programming is when I
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came across my first out ofbounds glitch, and it's like the
curtains were pulled back.
Okay, suddenly I'm no longerlooking at a stage in a set.
There's something else going onhere.
Why is this floating and avoid?
What's making all of thishappen?
Start to wonder why all theseglitches happen in games and
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there's an underlying logic toall of it.
So you get curious and you lookit up and you find out that
programming is a veryprogramming game, is a
monumental task of making sure alot of systems align with one
another, and that it's not easy,nor is it ever going to be a
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perfect end result.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
They just have to be happy with what the results are.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Not just happy with what the results are, but how
well they're hidden can reallyaffect final results.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So for you I believe I asked you this earlier how
does a conceptualization processwork for you when you're
looking at data and you'returning this data into a world,
essentially a visual world?
You're turning zeros and onesand this is an
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oversimplification into imagesthat do nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Zeroes and ones is not really an oversimplification
.
It is programming in itssimplest form.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That was the facetious.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Okay, I missed that part apparently.
For me it's about understandingwhat I'm trying to achieve with
programming.
Early programming is aboutproblem solving, and so you have
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a problem.
And it doesn't necessarily haveto be a problem like, oh, I'm
going to be late on this payment, not that kind of problem.
More like I have text in thisdocument and I want to move it
to this document, but I want theprogram to do it.
For me that's not really aproblem of dire importance, but
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it's a problem or a riddle tosolve.
So for me it's aboutunderstanding every underlying
process that's going to go intosolving that problem.
It's very similar to thinkingabout having a vision for a
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piece of art and executing,finishing that piece of art that
you envisioned.
You don't just think thatyou're going to draw the Mona
Lisa and then it just happensthere's so much you have to
practice and reinforce inbetween.
Programming is the same way.
So I would just say it'sunderstanding every little step
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in between.
I'm repeating myself now.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But you're not, you're doing just fine.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's really to me one step at a time, as verbose as
possible, to get to the end goalthat you want.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That falls in line with something that I was
explaining to someone earlier,and that it doesn't matter where
you are at this currentjuncture of reaching your goals
for the year.
Anyone can have a bunch ofaccomplishments.
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Anyone can fall behind wherethey need to be.
Life happens.
But what's important is whatare you currently doing and are
you enjoying the process of whatyou're doing?
Because if you're enjoyingsomething or taking the thing,
that should be hard and tellingyourself that it's fun mentally
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can also make the process easierand less grueling and taxing on
the mind.
So do you ever go throughmoments when you're programming
and you're like, wow, this istedious and this is difficult,
but you somehow miraculouslymade it fun and you were able to
then overcome that obstacle?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
To me, the fun part comes when I finally finish what
I'm doing, because it's usuallya headache.
In between, you're researchingnot only the aspects of what
you're trying to solve, but alsoyour troubleshooting, your own
written logical errors andmissteps, and where you've even
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mixed match the logic.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So we're going to switch gears for a brief moment
and I originally asked what areyour thoughts on goal setting,
whether they be long term, shortterm or year?
Is resolution?
I know that there's so manypeople that maybe they fell off
in two weeks and whatnot, and inthe introduction I made a joke
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that the times they happened andso a lot of people probably ate
cake and chocolate and all indrank and so they fell off their
health kick or they wanted tomake X amount of money or lose X
amount of weight and thosethings didn't happen.
How would you describe yourselfas far as goals are concerned
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and what do you think of NewYear's resolutions in the first
place?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Wandering aimlessly, trying to find concrete goals
that I can take achievable stepstowards, which I think is what
is the most reasonable approach.
For a lot of people is maybenot the wandering aimlessly part
, but the beginning to setachievable goals that you can
make steps towards, and that itdoesn't have to be I'm of the
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community, doesn't have to be aNew Year's resolution as a goal.
Goal can be set at any point intime.
You can set it for however longyou want it to be, but maybe
not necessarily.
The sooner you can achieve itthe better, but the closer it is
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to completion, the moretangible you may find it and
more attainable.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know, I've never thought of myself, of having New
Year's resolutions, and I thinkI've touched that point.
Like with you, I just havegoals in general and with a lot
of my friends that have NewYear's resolution, what I want
for them is know something, andthis is like the inner monologue
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that I have every time theytell me I'm like SLL.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Is it?
Why do you have that?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
resolution yeah, I wish I had a resolution.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, I'm saying, is that the kind of monologue or
the inner monologue you've had?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So my inner monologue is this this is what I want to
say but, I, never really saythis.
If you think to yourself, it'stoo late, there's too late.
If you think you can't do it,then you can't do it.
You're putting yourself off thefailure.
Exactly If you think that youcan do something, then you will,
or you will make strides toachieving those things.
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And so I always say that,before you embark on any
endeavor, you have to seementally where you are.
What's your mental headspace?
What is that landscape like?
And do you truly believe thatyou can set out, perhaps 100%?
Those are things that you haveto do.
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People make decisions, butthey're making decisions without
any form of preparation, andthat goes into why they'll fail.
And the second thing isaccountability.
Well, who holds you accountablefor not achieving your goals If
you know that there's norepercussions for something,
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there's no incentive for gettingit wrong or getting it right?
So what do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I know we briefly touched on this earlier, talking
off mic, but what you just saidthat people don't have anyone
to hold them accountable forwhen they fail I'm saying as far
as their goals, their ownpersonal goals.
Right, I was thinking about itin the sense of like holding
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yourself accountable for peoplebeing able to hold you
accountable for accomplishingthose things, but I guess it's
also different.
People can hold you accountablefor either succeeding or not
achieving them.
I think one thing I wanted tosay earlier was that I think
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that people can't holdthemselves accountable for their
own goals, but I guess it wouldbe more so if they can
accomplish their own goalsBecause you can't hold yourself
accountable.
You could hold yourselfaccountable for it's whether or
not people want to and howeffective it is.
I don't think it's as effectiveto hold yourself accountable
for failing as it is to haveother people hold you
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accountable for, of course.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I mean, most people like to live in denial about
certain things and they like toplace the blame on someone else,
and that's just, that's natural, it's kind of nature,
Absolutely.
It's this innate thing, abilityto live in denial.
As they say, ignorance is bliss, so I go.
No one knew that I set thesegoals up for myself and no one
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can judge me for it, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But do you need anybody to hold you accountable
for what you want to achieve?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It depends on what it is that you're trying to
achieve.
I think there are certainthings that you need someone to
hold you accountable.
I'm not a person that's intobasketball or a lot of athletics
.
I love watching you know theUFC.
It's something that I loveabsolutely, and I love watching
college wrestling and things ofthat nature.
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I know that Michael Jordan isan amazing basketball player.
I know that LeBron James isamazing basketball player and
Steph Curry is amazingbasketball player.
I know that Jordan borrows anamazing wrestler.
And no matter how great any ofthese people are even my homes
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great quarterback, but there'sonly one Tom Brady.
Sorry, all of these people hada cup.
They couldn't do it on theirown.
They have a team, but they havea coach that ultimately says
this is the expectation You'regoing to execute.
You're going to do this.
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When we look at a lot of theseindividuals, we see them as just
the individuals and not thatthere's a person that makes them
run drills, not that there's aperson that makes them throw
that ball over and over and overand over and over again and
says to them that was a crappythrow, or if you're playing golf
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, that's a horrible swing, don'tdo that.
We just see the success and wesee them being in action, but we
don't see the backgroundgroundwork that was put into
place, and that's something thatwe don't realize.
That they're accountable tosomeone and they're also
accountable for someone andwhether it be their families or
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their significant others, whathave you?
But they are someone.
They are guiding their hand sothat they can perform the way
that they do.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Do you think we can half achieve our goals, or do
you think achieving goals isbinary resolution?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
In truth, no one accomplishes their goals on
their own.
But that's not my question Do Ithink that anyone can have
achieved their goal?
Yes, no, because the goal iswhat?
The definition?
You can change the definitionof your goals.
If you change the definition,then you can fully achieve your
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goal.
Not how to achieve it, but evenin that endeavor you didn't do
it on your own Because I wasthinking for a brief moment and
I'm in line with that idea.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
you can get part of a way to achieving a goal.
That does not mean you achievethe goal but by ourselves.
If we're setting particularlylofty goals, I think we can get
the majority of the way there,that you don't need someone else
or do you accountable or tolift you up in some manner to
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get you all the way.
But it definitely helps to havesomeone else.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yes, and again, it's also the title of goals as well.
Not all goals require help fromothers.
Some goals are just simply yougetting off your butt and doing
something.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I want to clean the bathroom today.
Exactly, I want to clean outthe fridge today, which I didn't
do, by the way.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
My goal Go to the grocery store today.
It's within reason.
Within reason, there arecertain individuals that can't
just go to the grocery store,but there's also many
individuals who can choose to goto the grocery store and not
order DoorDash because they cancook a meal and they have the
ability to do so.
They're like, oh my gosh, mycholesterol is so high.
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They've cooked a meal thatwouldn't contribute to you
having high cholesterol.
You'd be good.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
But you think people rely too much on excuses as a
crutch.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yes, one million percent.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
All line, a little bit too much with the mentality
of trying to achieve a goal.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I think most people don't have goals, so they don't
need to achieve a goal or eventry to accomplish a goal In the
first place.
Most people aren'tgoal-oriented individuals that
set meaningful things to achieve, wandering aimlessly.
It's not just wanderingaimlessly, it's that they want
things.
They just don't have a goal forthose things.
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For example, if I just said toyou I want to be rich and famous
, that is a goal essentially,but usually there's no outline
to it.
There's no outline yes, toobroad.
Exactly what are you what berich and famous with what?
Are you going to go intobroadcasting, or are you going
to go into journalism in atraditional sense?
Are you going to be a famoustherapist?
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You know, like Break it downinto its components, exactly.
Every little step, but theydon't know how to do that
because most people aren'ttaught how to think or think
critically, and so, withinthinking critically, it means
that you can be critical toyourselves.
People can be critical in waysthat hold them back when it
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comes to themselves let's sayself-deprecation, right but
they're not critical tothemselves when it comes to
lifting them up, liftingthemselves up.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, they don't give themselves enough crates.
Exactly, they undermine howmuch they actually know, not
just about themselves, butwhatever they're-.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Exactly.
You know, I always use thisquote whenever I get into the
mindset that something isdifficult, I say to myself I
have to believe in the enormityof my endless potential.
You know, you have to believein your own hype.
You have to be your own biggestfan.
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You're not always going to beat 100%.
You're not always going to tellyourself man, I'm going to get
out of bed today, I'm definitelygoing to do laundry, I'm going
to hold it.
You know what else I'm going todo.
I'm going to clean the car.
I'm going to fully detail it.
Of course, those things aresimple in nature, but think
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about how many of us that's likeit's hard for us to do.
We'll go to work, and we workin environments where we are the
kings and queens of organizing.
We go into jobs where, when itcomes to analytics, we're like
AI on steroids and yet when itcomes to ourselves, man, I can't
organize this laundry.
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Hell, we countable the job notat home.
Exactly, and I think that's oneof the primary reasons why we
can't accomplish things isbecause we don't have anyone to
hold us accountable toaccomplish those things.
There's no repercaution.
There isn't.
Sometimes you have to giveyourself those repercussions
that if I don't do this, then Iwon't do it.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Sometimes it has to be that way, not just
repercussions, but at your job,assuming you are working a
stable job, right, you probablyhave some sort of schedule
you're following at your job,some kind of process you follow,
and it's consistency.
Yeah, at home we're far moredistracted, we're far more
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relaxed and I would venture tosay most people are less likely
to fall into any sort of patternor consistency towards what
they want to work for as a goal.
And well, maybe it's wrong tosay people won't, but it's
important to recognizeconsistency is key in whatever
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it is you're trying to achieve.
Even if there are some days onprogramming projects, I've just
completely spent my brain on it,all the energy I have, and I
can't bat them to look at it.
But I know personally that if Istop working on something for a
certain undefinable period oftime because it varies with
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project to project I willprobably never pick that up
again, or I won't pick it up formonths.
And so even just opening it up,looking at the project, maybe
fixing a typo in just a string Itype, or renaming a variable or
something, or just somethingsmall, to have the project
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present in my subconscious, justbecause I looked at it for two
minutes today and I didn't evendo anything.
The fact that I'm stillengaging with the goal is the
key here.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Exactly the goal.
The goal is understanding and Ithink, where too many people,
they have this all or nothingmentality and they're like if I
don't do, if I don't cut out allthe sugar out of my diet, I'm
never going to lose weight.
And so, as opposed to takinghaving an incremental approach,
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an approach that is measured, anapproach that says it's okay to
mess up some time, I am goingto stumble towards my goal, and
maybe it's not a sprint all theway to the finish line, maybe
it's a walk to the finish line.
Some of us are going to be thetortoise and some of us are
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going to be the cheetah.
The important thing is that weget there, or we attempt to get
there, and if it doesn't workout the way that we think, then
we just need to reassess andreevaluate why things did not
play out how we expected them to.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And it's not ever failure, because you've learned
something from even if you don'taccomplish what you're going
for.
You have learned something fromthe process.
You've gained something.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Absolutely, and I say this to my team all the time
Failure isn't final.
No one truly fails unless theyjust completely abandon the
thing that they set out to do.
That is failure.
Failure isn't real.
Lose a loss isn't a loss ifyou've learned something because
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you just gained something.
There were times where I wereinvesting in the stock market
and I lost a lot and I lookedand said to myself well, why did
I lose?
Did I lose because I was toocomfortable?
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Did I diversify enough?
Did I just think that this highhorse would never end?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Or did you just get unlucky?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
In terms of the things that I can control.
Notice, what I said in thebeginning is what I am
re-evaluating and reassessingwhat I could have done
differently and knowing that onthe journey we're gonna have
moments where we say the peaksin the valleys right, the feast
in the fountains.
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The roller coaster of life,exactly.
If I'm on the roller coasterand I'm about to Be at the high
point, I have to know thatthere's gonna be a little.
So during my high points after,prepare for my low points,
because my low points are coming.
Winter is coming, it is coming,and when the winter is here you
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don't have a bound to fullharvest.
You have to read until spring,and that's always.
Those are little analogies thatI use when I see things are
really going well and I'mrevalidating and reassessing,
I'm how to progress.
I think about that East bad andwinter spring.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
You've even got me thinking of another good analogy
I'm kind of just coming up withon the spot go for it is that I
Say you're out hiking in anational park, maybe Outwest or
up north, where there's actuallymountains, not down here in the
flat Florida.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
There's Claremont and we are the highest point in
Florida, don't forget sure Not awhole lot to look at
comparatively.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But if you're out hiking and you looked out, you
might see a mountain range rightand you might see the peaks in
the valleys, the ups and thedowns, the mountain range.
You might think I want to climbup that peak, up to that peak.
But you do have to make a lotof work to get to the peak but
you also have to come back down.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Can I get a make a build off of your analogy?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
When you're at the mountain, admire the valley.
When you're at the valley,admire the peak.
There's a beauty in thatprocess of your high times and
there's a beauty in the processof Understanding your low points
as well.
They're always going to bemoments where Reflection and
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understanding.
Yes, absolutely, and there'salso moments in which the thing
that you're looking at as atragedy is Really just a comedy.
You know, sometimes it's alaugh at your own times.
It's a pretty dark comedy.
It's a dark comedy Absolutely.
Life can be a dark comedy andsometimes it's just the outlook,
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you know, and just remainingunfazed in certain situations
and having an appreciation forthat hard times because when the
good times come, you're gonnabe so much more equipped dealing
with Other goals because youtook the time to do it the right
way.
You, you learned that when Iwas accomplishing this golf,
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there were peaks and valleys.
Logical conclusion in otherendeavors there will also be
peaks and valleys.
Let me prepare myself Mentallyin the ways I didn't prepare
myself in the last endeavor thatI pursue.
The goal is to be advancing.
As you know, we progress inlife and that may not always
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come in the form of monetarygains or social standing.
Sometimes it comes in the formof me just learning to follow my
laundry correctly and Having acleaner house and a happier wife
and the kids that Don't make asbig a big a mess.
You know the my goals are verysimple.
I.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Mean, simple goals are Good to have a boring guy
hey, so my, but the simple,achievable goals.
It's like building a toleranceto the ability To Using simple.
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Using and achieving simplegoals is like building muscle
the more you do it, think of themuscle gets and the easier it
becomes tackle the bigger goals.
What's the lofty is gold you'veever pursued Honestly, really
take, really think about it assomeone who's never really been
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goal oriented that it's actuallyvery hard question.
I'm actively trying to be moregoal oriented.
As I've mentioned, I've had alot of free time To reevaluate
what I want out of life, thingsI want to pursue when I want to
be job wise.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Dum, dum, dum dum.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I, I would say Biggest goal and it's broad.
Right, it's not.
It's not specific in any formor fashion, but you just Be able
.
We're asking if I've achievedor just didn't go.
I've said set, set, okay, yeah,um, it would be to Make enough
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to live comfortably, to doWhatever I want with regards to
whatever interest has myattention at that at any given
time.
Interests usually involveAngible things.
Well, no, it's a broad goal.
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Right, it's a broad life goal.
I don't want a whole lot out oflife, just to be comfortable,
maybe, and be able to pursuewhatever information in my
poppies interest me.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Achieving simple is the most complete.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I Strip um simple can be a lot of things which makes
it complex and Complex as easy,because you could always find
problems.
Hey, complex is more problemsolving.
You know it's kind of like.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's kind of like in a relationship where, as a would
go, it's complicated.
Then you know it's reallysimple.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, two sides of the same coin, exactly that,
aren't?
Things aren't as simple as wealways make enough to be in
there.
No, it's complex.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Exactly.
You know, it's like the thebeginning and the end are the
same things.
Every end is a beginning andevery beginning is an end, and
sometimes, on this journey oflife, we come to the realization
that, in order to be the new,you have to shed the old you.
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I should go on a shirt In orderto be the new, you have to shed
the old you.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And then a shirt that you could just rip off all the
time exactly roll off in a crowd.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm gonna start creating taglines for shirts
from now on?
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I mean, yes, you do have to shed the old you, but
it's important to never give up.
It's important to never losefocus and Shed yourself in such
a fashion that you lose focuswhere you came from, or it's in
pieces that are you at your core, things you can't shed.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You think you can't you are always your poor during
that process Because looks likeI, like a crab.
A crab goes out old out of ashell shell, yeah, true, no,
we're a snake still the samesnake, just a new skit.
You know, had to shed the oldto do to be the new.
Growth in life is like that aswell.
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A lot of people they want to bethe new, but they drag so much
of all the baggage and all ofthe things that make them not
accomplish their goals, such asthe words of other people that's
put them down.
And, of course, trauma.
It's hard to overcome andthat's understandable.
(34:02):
I mean, what's trauma foreveryone is also relative, and
that's something that otherpeople have to understand as
well.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
They haven't, or necessarily haven't, thought
about the things that they don'tneed, that they Might like
currently they don't need to becarrying on with, haven't Come
to realization or acceptance.
These things habit, bad habits,things that are just not good
(34:37):
for you.
Well, I guess I mean, I mean,form a habit out of anything.
That's a really broad one, butmaybe you have bad eating habits
, or maybe you are reallylethargic, or or Maybe you're
not the problem.
Everyone else is the problem,which means you're the problem.
Yeah, you know, it's those,those things.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
All right here's question.
Oh, that's great Doing thispodcast and I Completely
blindside you with the podcastdoing it today.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, I kind of expected it was coming at some
point.
Yeah, yes, you hit me earlierthan I was expected.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, and Now that you've gone through the process
of doing a podcast like, whatare your, what are your thoughts
like so far on Going, throughit.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I Went in not having any idea how we were going to
talk, what we're gonna talkabout.
You kind of told me you knowit's an all-encompassing thing,
it's whatever it is, yeah andokay.
That makes some sense Muchbetter when I can speak broadly
anyway, as opposed to reallyfocused on the topic.
My mind lets to jump and wandersometimes, but also I'm.
(35:58):
I was still a little like I'mnot entirely sure what I'm gonna
talk about.
I'm just gonna kind of wing itwhen we get here, and it's more
a case if I just need my Socialgears lubricated, I suppose, and
to be put in a position whereit's more active and less
passive listening exactly andyou know, right there there's.
(36:26):
There's a point of improvementfor me.
Part of part of the old me toshed is that I shouldn't be as
passive in conversation.
I Know why I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Why are you like that ?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Because most of the time I'm just Not willing to put
forth the effort to engage inconversation.
Why not fully paying attention?
We're in an environment that'sgreat for me fully paying
attention.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's quite what makes it.
But let's go back to the let'stalk about everything concept.
Yeah, you or the gear, so youdid not want to put forth the
effort to conversation, like,why was that a thing that is?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
where does that stem from?
That's old, learned habits,from being called teachers, pets
.
We're just being the one toanswer every single question and
being like thinking you know,maybe I should let others have a
chance.
Or when I do speak up, peoplestill typically ignore me Until
(37:28):
you know it's already done.
It's like I don't want to bethe guy to say I told you so,
but Even if it's not fully, Itold you so.
It's like I had a point.
It's it After a point.
It's not just not willing toput in the effort, but it's also
that it was a learned responsethat you know Not everyone cares
(37:53):
.
It's now so I might control it.
I can't make everybody care.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
But yeah, I think that's where most of the Not
willing to put in the effortcomes from.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
We'll take something If thoughts matter.
You might, of course, and weonly get to do this game of life
once.
I think that there's a not youknow this thing that I heard
once.
It's like oh, you can eitheroperate in love or fear, and you
(38:30):
know they've been.
They give the differentbranches of all the things that
fell under the love column andfear column and, at the end of
the day, the only thing thatever really matters is that
you're being true to you andthat I told you so is never
really needed, because the factthat the other person was wrong
was the I told you so, and I'velearned that, you know, in my
(38:54):
growth is that I never do the Itold you so.
I take the approach now of whenI'm ignored or I'm not listened
to.
I simply just say this onephrase how can I help?
And that keeps me grounded,because usually in an I told you
(39:18):
so situation, there areconsequences that I'm like why
am I even a part of this Like?
Why am I helping to clean up?
this mess right now, when I toldyou so and that used to make me
angry, but now it's.
How can I help?
Because the people you love aregoing to make mistakes, because
(39:43):
they're human and a lot oftimes, you know, we as people
think that ah man, if only theworld was a better place.
It doesn't matter if the worldis a better place or not.
What matters is that you'redoing your part in being a good
person.
Bad things are always going tohappen in life.
People are always going todisappoint us in life, people
(40:05):
are going to fall short in life,and the ideal does not exist,
and what exists is what wecreate to be our ideal.
There is no true greater idealand we can't achieve that
greater ideal.
The individual impacts thewhole, and so all you can say is
(40:30):
we're here to help.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
You know, a lot of people need to help too.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
But I don't mean not necessarily large amounts of
help, a little guiding hand, alittle positive reinforcement.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Absolutely.
I mean, I told you about, youknow, the story of this
transient gentleman that I met.
You know transient homeless orwhat have you that I met and
this guy was a genius.
At first I thought that he wascrazy, because he's comes to me
(41:09):
and he says, oh yeah, this, oh,I mean, you know and tell me all
these things, and I wasgenuinely interested in all that
he had to say.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Everything sounded like it made sense, but at the
same time, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I'm looking at him but not I'm not paying attention
to his words.
And it got to the point whereit was, like I said to you, I
didn't believe 80% of what yousaid and then 20% of what you
said.
I'm like this is plausible, orI'm like this really, really
could be true.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
The aura, so to speak .
He gave off was crazy, but whenyou pay attention to who he was
.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Exactly, and so they go to a bar later that night.
I'm speaking to these twogentlemen and you know we're
talking about AI together andthey were discussing, you know,
some problems they were havingwith you know, with AI and what
(42:10):
have you Mind, you, both ofthese gentlemen?
They're like see you, the CEOof a Canadian company that deals
with AI and things of thatnature, and I was just.
I regurgitated what thishomeless man said to me as a
joke and when I did, they werelike that makes sense.
(42:34):
That's the answer right there,and I don't even remember what I
regurgitated.
Again, it was slightlyinebriated.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I'm regurgitating for a good story.
I've repeated what a homelessman said to me, to some CEOs,
and now they're making moremoney.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
And then they, literally, as a thank you, they
were like all right, let's keepthe tab open, you know, and you
can order whatever you want.
I'm like, oh, thank you, thisis perfect and one of my goals,
and you'll see in my 10-yeargoal that I have hung up.
(43:12):
One of the things was to formdeeper connections with people,
and I can't achieve that unlessI take the time to humble myself
, be willing to listen to thewords of people who I may think
that their words are crazy, andif I listen, truly actively
(43:37):
listen, as you stated earlier,then the words that are coming
out of their mouth aren'tactually crazy, because my
biases are putting blinders overmy eyes and then they're
putting earplugs in my ears, soI can't fully grasp the gravity
(44:02):
of a situation.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
You are not responsible for the first
thought that comes to your mind,but you are responsible for the
second thing that comes out ofyour mind when it comes to
having an opinion on something,of course, and your first
thought is always a trainedresponse, of course, absolutely
(44:25):
Like the other.
Second is what you think.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Absolutely Honest.
I mean, it's the onion concept.
You have to peel back thelayers, you have to, and you
know, going through the journey.
And then this gentleman said tome.
He said Some of us are homeless, we don't need money from
anyone.
You know, it would nice to knowthat we're still people and
(44:51):
that people would take the timeto just say hello and not treat
us like we don't exist.
But I was like mind blown, mindblown.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
But it's so simple.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
It is so simple, but it's complicated, you know, and
I'm learning to be better man.
You know I am, I'm learning tobe better, and I'm far from
being perfect, and my goal isnot to be perfect.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
It's not easy to be better compared to yourself.
Yeah, Compared to others it canbe quite easy, but compared to
yourself, you can.
It's definitely too easy to behard on yourself, too hard on
yourself.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That's your mentally so it is, and some of us will
find a way to be extremely hardon ourselves and can't even find
reasons to forgive ourselves.
That also comes very easy to alot of people and they're done
that.
The internal, you know voicethat says, hey, you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
You know, it's not the voice that makes the excuses
for you.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah that, oh, you're just going to leave like
everybody else and it's likeyou're creating that self
fulfilling.
You know prophecy.
You're letting that firstthought win Exactly, instead of
looking at the fact that, oh,this person cares, this person
is there for me, this personlistens, this person generally
wants what's best for me.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
It is unfortunately human nature to focus on the
negative more than the positives.
It's it's a reflex to say thatwe need to work more to
counteract.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
You know, and a space that is absent of negativity is
a space that can cure that.
I've had moments where, like Iwas in a dark place and the
(46:53):
things that got me out wasn't myironclad confidence, and I do
have a supreme confidence inthings that I believe in.
I don't think that I can bestopped in a lot of things that
I believe in, because I know howmuch work I put into something.
I understand that I will fail insome areas, but I know that the
(47:15):
failure is not final and I'mokay with that because I'm not
dead, I'm alive.
But when you're in that darkplace and you don't have anyone
that believes in you and peopleonly see the results of all the
other things that you've done,but they don't even want to even
(47:37):
listen to the thing that you'retrying to do, and even though
you've like, it's morefrustrating when you have the Ws
to back up the things that youwant to do but other people
don't want.
They fight against it, and soyou're having to fight against
your own self, to fight againstthe fact that people are pushing
(47:59):
you back, against you, andyou're still trying to like,
just be positive.
You're still trying toaccomplish that goal and that's
it's lofty endeavor, because youfeel like no matter where you
turn, it's an L.
You feel like the world'sagainst you Absolutely and your
and your world is actuallyagainst you, because that is
(48:22):
your world.
You're in that world, thatspace, that environment, that
environment of hostility ortoxicity or what have you, and
you have to still get that thingdone that you're trying to
accomplish.
That's tough and you know,whenever I've ever gone through
that.
The thing that's kept me goingtruly is knowing that you know
(48:46):
what.
It's just another day at theoffice, and that reference makes
you know as my fools are.
It's just another day at theoffice, it's just a part of life
to encounter BS.
There will never be a situationin life where anything is
(49:06):
perfect.
There's always going to bepickups, hurls, potholes.
Exactly Mountains in your way,obstacles that people place
there, it's going to be there,and to expect anything else is
why we fail at accomplishing ourgoals, because we expect the
journey to be easy and withoutany.
(49:28):
You know mistakes.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
We all live in our own little worlds.
We just need to learn to createour own worlds with respect to
others.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Absolutely, and you know, the saying is that, you
know, every villain is the heroof their own story.
What you know, maybe you needto be the hero of your villain's
story and then you'll learn tobe good.
You know, I'm quite happy.
My communications teacher oncetold me to never use the word um
(50:02):
when speaking to her.
Um, it's just a filler word,sorry, I know, I've done that
quite a few times.
No, I that's, but that's what Imean, though.
It's a filler word, but it's away of processing.
It's a pause as well.
Yeah, that's what I would sayto her.
It's a pause, that's what yousaid.
It's pause and uh, this is aperfect example of being able to
(50:27):
accomplish your goal, becausesomeone that is there to hold
you accountable and what haveyou, and speaking with people, I
have a great level of respectfor my former professor, you
know, professor Tan, who uh was,was uh mind blowing, because
(50:49):
you ever, if you judge a book byits cover, sometimes, like you,
can be so wrong.
So, my, my, my professor,communications professor, uh,
miss Tan, um, she, she, shespoke, um, she kind of sounds
(51:14):
like a female version of myselfand the, the, the, in terms of,
like our speech patterns.
It's a nation.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yes, and the the flow of the conversation, the
thoughts.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Absolutely Minus the fact that she's a communications
professor and she has like agazillion little years of
experience that I I could notever expect to have.
Uh, she, we're having aconversation and we're talking
about food and you know, andshe's telling me about all these
(51:54):
, these, uh, jamaican meals andthings of that nature and I was
like, oh my gosh, like I thoughtthat she was from Singapore and
you know what, not like the,her, her knowledge of Jamaican
gastronomy is so vast that I wasjust mind blowing.
I'm like their husband's makingthem Like oh, that's right,
(52:14):
she's not married and she'snever been married, so that's
like whatever.
And it turns out that her, uh,I guess like she was a part of
an exchange program a long timeago and that the people who did
it.
there was a Jamaican family thatadopted her, so sometimes yeah.
(52:38):
So you know, that is like oneof those things that are like oh
, wow like she had Jamaicanparents and make sense.
You know, and uh, it's, it's.
It's good to find ways andthings in which you have a
(53:00):
common ground with otherindividuals and use that as a
segue to accomplishing yourgoals.
When people feel that you aresimilar to them or they can see
themselves in you and you cansee yourself in them and you're
able to make them out to be aperson that you can utilize to
(53:22):
hold yourself accountable orhold them accountable, it
becomes easier to attain yourgoals.
And you have to find thatperson that you know that's
always going to be honest withyou and say that, hey, that
speech that is low tier.
I was like well, I'll do betternext time, because now, now, you
(53:43):
do better right now in thisconversation.
Don't use um in thisconversation like you did in the
speech.
Do better right now.
You have the ability to do so.
Do it.
And having someone call me outlike that, you know, I was like,
oh, oh, my gosh, she knew anduh, it, just it overall made me,
(54:08):
made me better and I'm gratefulfor that.
And now, whenever I'm speaking,I I think about certain things,
even though I do the badactions, though.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I was.
Uh, obviously I haven't spokenat length in a while, in a while
in a this wouldn't really be aprofessional setting, more in a
more formal setting Uh, so I wastaught to not use on eventually
(54:41):
, and what I did end up leaningon is long periods of silence,
but little longer.
Yeah, Uh, for two, this pausesand maybe extending the final
(55:04):
syllable of something, as it's akind of slowly ease into the
pause.
That's, those are the things Ilanded on, and it takes a lot of
mental effort for me to not useUm.
It's kind of become a part ofmy daily speech.
I'm thinking about things.
It's not necessarily bad thing.
(55:25):
I don't think certain teachersmight argue otherwise, but I
suppose you could say that wehave just created a goal for me
to, to, to regain that ground ofnot relying on um or I don't
know what else would people use,like, like, yeah, that's,
(55:47):
that's a good one.
I remember a friend of mine.
Uh, way back in little schoolwe used to always end off things
with, you know.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Absolutely.
But those are filler thoughts.
You know filler words and sowhenever in terms of like in a
formal setting, if you want toknow if I like someone or not,
you will know, because myvocabulary is not relaxed at all
, it is stiff and and and andthe void of life is extremely
(56:23):
formal, is robotic.
There is no robustest in there.
It's just me just being adictionary to you.
In terms of me, I would neveruse the word like, such as.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Well, now you're.
Now you're using a synonym.
It's not really a synonym, buta synonym a similar phrase to
life, instead of sayingabsolutely.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
It's such as, so it takes on a different meaning.
Exactly that is what I mean, I,when I use like, it makes me
more approachable, it's morenormal, it's more socially
normal, and if I go such as,it's saying back off, I'm going
to throw this dictionary at.
You know, figuratively speaking, um, and I like that concept of
(57:11):
oh, my goodness, I can usewords to either pull people in
or push people away, withoutbeing malicious or in their face
about it, exactly.
And so I've learned to embracethe idea of asking for help when
(57:32):
I need it to accomplish mygoals.
I've learned to talk about my,my feelings, and to see where,
where I am mentally.
You know what, what is my stateof being?
You know, um, is the mind framethat I'm taking on the right
one?
It doesn't matter if I thinkI'm right or if I think I'm
(57:57):
wrong about something, it's thatI have the ability to ask for
help.
And so sometimes you know youneed a little guidance, and
that's okay to need a littleguidance.
You all need it, and I justtake this as an opportunity to
just embrace the fact that I'mhuman in that, such as life, man
(58:18):
.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
Here's a really good catch up from all the way, when
we first started recording tothis point right now.
Are you familiar with rubberduck debugging?
Speaker 2 (58:28):
I am not.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Okay, I couldn't tell you when.
Probably in the seventies ornineties, I don't remember the
time period exactly.
But the point being was,programmers would sit in their
little cubicle staring at theircomputer screen.
They'd get tripped up overtheir own code.
And this is before Googledidn't really?
You couldn't just Google stackexchange, whatever your problem
(58:54):
is, or just Google broadly forit to get an answer?
Speaker 2 (58:58):
That's what Yachtle is for.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, you would have to consult your peers in your
direct vicinity.
Yeah, so before you do that,some people found it easier to
speak to an inanimate objectabout the problem, instead of
letting the issue be run overand over and over inside of the
(59:22):
brain, despite them explainingit to themselves and their mind
over and over and over.
Some people had a little yellowand orange rubber ducky sit on
their desk and they would lookat the rubber ducky and they
would say here's my problem,here is how the code works.
They would speak to thisinanimate object and vocalizing
(59:42):
the problem, these steps, theunderstanding of it all, is
enough to change their ownperspective to solving their own
problem.
And we don't necessarily.
Obviously, yes, having someoneto speak with helps, because
it's like having someone to haveyour ideas bounce off of, get
(01:00:02):
another opinion of, but you canalso get a different opinion for
yourself by simplyexternalizing your thoughts,
speaking to yourself in theshout, or maybe modeling to
yourself before you go to bed toclear your mind, the sister, or
kick back and relax and stareout the window with a nice cup
of tea or coffee or whateveryour favorite snack, and just
(01:00:25):
vocalize your thoughts toyourself, as opposed to letting
them sit and stew marinated inyour mind.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
You know, that's Satan's deep heart.
We can always, you know, wallowin our own suffering, or what
have you like, such as I wasmaking fun of my college
professor there just now.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
It's important we get outside of our own minds, not
just our own comfort zones.
Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Of course, you know, one of the things that have
always held me back as a humanbeing was the fact that
sometimes I would get caught upin my own head.
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I would stay there and I wouldn't want to like work
through anything else.
I just would stay in that realmof my head and if I stayed
there for two months, thenthat's just where I stay.
And the truth is, this taughtme that I can't have certain
people or certain things that Ihave no control over occupy my
(01:01:35):
mental real estate anymore.
I have so many good people whorely on me and they mean the
best version of me, not aversion that I allow people who
don't even matter to occupy me,people that lift you up and let
(01:01:59):
them be the ones that hold youaccountable for reaching your
goals.
Exactly, and that's what makesme a boring guy.
You know.
I really do appreciate youtaking the time to do the
podcast with me and I'mextremely grateful.
I look forward to the next timeyou decide to come on to the
(01:02:22):
Magnificent Ones podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
It's been a joy.
I always do enjoy sitting in aroom listening to people who are
far more intelligent than I am.
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I think that if you play back this podcast, you'll
see that you're the intelligentone in this country.
I'm not saying I'm not theintelligent one.
I'm saying that you are the guy.
This is your world and I'm justoccupying it somewhat, and
you're not just occupying a partof it.
Now, exactly, you know, what'svaluable about having platforms
(01:03:00):
is you choose who's on yourplatform, and I think that
everyone brings something to thetable, and I love the fact that
.
I love how people's brains workI do and having the time to just
sit down, talk to someone andsee what their passions are and
(01:03:26):
or learn what their passions are.
It allows you to also reflectand look inward in ways that let
you know that, oh my goodness,I'm not the only one that thinks
this way.
Other people are going throughthe same things that I'm going
through.
Other people have it worse thanI do, and I love.
(01:03:52):
The thing that I heard onInstagram a long time ago is
that you know you're worriedabout getting a bigger house.
When someone just wants to livein a house, you're worried
about the fact that you can'tget, you know, caramel in your
coffee when someone just wishedthey could have something to eat
.
And the realities of life.
(01:04:14):
Sometimes they don't trulyreflect a person's.
I'm trying to make it, you know,easily to more palpable.
Sometimes the reality of likesomeone's life doesn't reflect
(01:04:36):
the greater reality of others,because they're so engulfed and
consumed by themselves that theydon't take the time to see that
others around them have itworse, and that's something that
I had to help we could all doto be open with each other much
more than we already are.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
More together, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Well, let's do more together.
Raise each other up, yeah, andwith that you know I'm going to
listen to some amazing music andlooking forward to that, isn't
there's a?
I want to listen to someclassical music, just to go back
to a mental head space that Iwas at when I was younger that I
(01:05:25):
knew came from two thingsworking out and classical music.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
You did the two hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I did the two hand in hand Again, dude.
Thank you, I really appreciatethis.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
It was a pleasure.
If you enjoyed today's content,please like and subscribe for
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5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Take a breath, let's die then.
Someone that I highly respectonce said we're all unpaid
actors living out scripts thatwe didn't write, and it's so
profound.
(00:29):
So today we're going to discusswhere are we at in our goals
that we set out for the NewYear's, being that we're
entering the second quarter ofthe year it is now the month of
March have we stayed the coursewhen it came to our New Year's
(00:49):
resolutions?
Are we on track or are wefalling behind?
Are we stagnant?
Regardless of where you are,there's still a year left to be
completed.
This journey isn't over, andmaybe this will be your year
that you get to check things offof that list that you wrote and
(01:11):
you can have some sense ofaccountability and know that
Valentine's Day happened.
Maybe your goal was to lose 20pounds and for some reason, you
gained five, and that's okay.
Remain motivated, stay thecourse, be vigilant and know
(01:31):
that you're human and you makemistakes.
And, with that said, let's getinto today's episode.
Thank you for joining theMagnificent Ones podcast.
On tonight's episode, we'regoing to discuss New Year's
resolutions, and where are wewith our goals?
(01:52):
Tonight, I have another guestby the name of Daniel that we
just have a two for now.
Back to back Daniels on theMagnificent Ones podcast.
Daniel, why don't you introduceyourself and who you are
essentially, and maybe some ofyour interests and likes, and
(02:15):
let's dive into New Year'sresolutions and where we are
with them and also, do you havethem or believe in them?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Hello Daniel, don't think I'm too much of an
interesting fellow.
Usually the work come home, dothings stay alive, shower, eat,
sleep, repeat it all Notnecessarily a stressful
situation.
I have some free time to myself, which I currently been using
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to reevaluate my hobbies andalso reevaluate or just continue
to explore what I want out oflife.
So New Year's resolutionscorrect.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What are one of your hobbies?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
One of my hobbies.
Okay, so the various aspects ofprogramming usually more
catered towards game design, butit can also be it's programming
right.
You can branch out to softwareengineering or using it as a
means to automate everydaythings You're so inclined, or
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just problem solving in general,which is something I really
tried to refine as a muscle I'velet weaken over time.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So for you personally , like what?
Obviously we'll go into NewYear's resolutions and goals and
stuff, but what got you intovideo games or programming?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The video games for you.
The video games was justbecause I grew up with them.
I think a lot of people likethat.
They got a console young, as achild as many as many do.
But I think what probably gotme into programming is when I
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came across my first out ofbounds glitch, and it's like the
curtains were pulled back.
Okay, suddenly I'm no longerlooking at a stage in a set.
There's something else going onhere.
Why is this floating and avoid?
What's making all of thishappen?
Start to wonder why all theseglitches happen in games and
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there's an underlying logic toall of it.
So you get curious and you lookit up and you find out that
programming is a veryprogramming game, is a
monumental task of making sure alot of systems align with one
another, and that it's not easy,nor is it ever going to be a
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perfect end result.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
They just have to be happy with what the results are.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Not just happy with what the results are, but how
well they're hidden can reallyaffect final results.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So for you I believe I asked you this earlier how
does a conceptualization processwork for you when you're
looking at data and you'returning this data into a world,
essentially a visual world?
You're turning zeros and onesand this is an
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oversimplification into imagesthat do nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Zeroes and ones is not really an oversimplification
.
It is programming in itssimplest form.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That was the facetious.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Okay, I missed that part apparently.
For me it's about understandingwhat I'm trying to achieve with
programming.
Early programming is aboutproblem solving, and so you have
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a problem.
And it doesn't necessarily haveto be a problem like, oh, I'm
going to be late on this payment, not that kind of problem.
More like I have text in thisdocument and I want to move it
to this document, but I want theprogram to do it.
For me that's not really aproblem of dire importance, but
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it's a problem or a riddle tosolve.
So for me it's aboutunderstanding every underlying
process that's going to go intosolving that problem.
It's very similar to thinkingabout having a vision for a
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piece of art and executing,finishing that piece of art that
you envisioned.
You don't just think thatyou're going to draw the Mona
Lisa and then it just happensthere's so much you have to
practice and reinforce inbetween.
Programming is the same way.
So I would just say it'sunderstanding every little step
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in between.
I'm repeating myself now.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But you're not, you're doing just fine.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's really to me one step at a time, as verbose as
possible, to get to the end goalthat you want.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That falls in line with something that I was
explaining to someone earlier,and that it doesn't matter where
you are at this currentjuncture of reaching your goals
for the year.
Anyone can have a bunch ofaccomplishments.
(08:07):
Anyone can fall behind wherethey need to be.
Life happens.
But what's important is whatare you currently doing and are
you enjoying the process of whatyou're doing?
Because if you're enjoyingsomething or taking the thing,
that should be hard and tellingyourself that it's fun mentally
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can also make the process easierand less grueling and taxing on
the mind.
So do you ever go throughmoments when you're programming
and you're like, wow, this istedious and this is difficult,
but you somehow miraculouslymade it fun and you were able to
then overcome that obstacle?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
To me, the fun part comes when I finally finish what
I'm doing, because it's usuallya headache.
In between, you're researchingnot only the aspects of what
you're trying to solve, but alsoyour troubleshooting, your own
written logical errors andmissteps, and where you've even
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mixed match the logic.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So we're going to switch gears for a brief moment
and I originally asked what areyour thoughts on goal setting,
whether they be long term, shortterm or year?
Is resolution?
I know that there's so manypeople that maybe they fell off
in two weeks and whatnot, and inthe introduction I made a joke
(09:49):
that the times they happened andso a lot of people probably ate
cake and chocolate and all indrank and so they fell off their
health kick or they wanted tomake X amount of money or lose X
amount of weight and thosethings didn't happen.
How would you describe yourselfas far as goals are concerned
(10:16):
and what do you think of NewYear's resolutions in the first
place?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Wandering aimlessly, trying to find concrete goals
that I can take achievable stepstowards, which I think is what
is the most reasonable approach.
For a lot of people is maybenot the wandering aimlessly part
, but the beginning to setachievable goals that you can
make steps towards, and that itdoesn't have to be I'm of the
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community, doesn't have to be aNew Year's resolution as a goal.
Goal can be set at any point intime.
You can set it for however longyou want it to be, but maybe
not necessarily.
The sooner you can achieve itthe better, but the closer it is
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to completion, the moretangible you may find it and
more attainable.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know, I've never thought of myself, of having New
Year's resolutions, and I thinkI've touched that point.
Like with you, I just havegoals in general and with a lot
of my friends that have NewYear's resolution, what I want
for them is know something, andthis is like the inner monologue
(11:36):
that I have every time theytell me I'm like SLL.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Is it?
Why do you have that?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
resolution yeah, I wish I had a resolution.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, I'm saying, is that the kind of monologue or
the inner monologue you've had?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So my inner monologue is this this is what I want to
say but, I, never really saythis.
If you think to yourself, it'stoo late, there's too late.
If you think you can't do it,then you can't do it.
You're putting yourself off thefailure.
Exactly If you think that youcan do something, then you will,
or you will make strides toachieving those things.
(12:13):
And so I always say that,before you embark on any
endeavor, you have to seementally where you are.
What's your mental headspace?
What is that landscape like?
And do you truly believe thatyou can set out, perhaps 100%?
Those are things that you haveto do.
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People make decisions, butthey're making decisions without
any form of preparation, andthat goes into why they'll fail.
And the second thing isaccountability.
Well, who holds you accountablefor not achieving your goals If
you know that there's norepercussions for something,
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there's no incentive for gettingit wrong or getting it right?
So what do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I know we briefly touched on this earlier, talking
off mic, but what you just saidthat people don't have anyone
to hold them accountable forwhen they fail I'm saying as far
as their goals, their ownpersonal goals.
Right, I was thinking about itin the sense of like holding
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yourself accountable for peoplebeing able to hold you
accountable for accomplishingthose things, but I guess it's
also different.
People can hold you accountablefor either succeeding or not
achieving them.
I think one thing I wanted tosay earlier was that I think
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that people can't holdthemselves accountable for their
own goals, but I guess it wouldbe more so if they can
accomplish their own goalsBecause you can't hold yourself
accountable.
You could hold yourselfaccountable for it's whether or
not people want to and howeffective it is.
I don't think it's as effectiveto hold yourself accountable
for failing as it is to haveother people hold you
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accountable for, of course.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I mean, most people like to live in denial about
certain things and they like toplace the blame on someone else,
and that's just, that's natural, it's kind of nature,
Absolutely.
It's this innate thing, abilityto live in denial.
As they say, ignorance is bliss, so I go.
No one knew that I set thesegoals up for myself and no one
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can judge me for it, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But do you need anybody to hold you accountable
for what you want to achieve?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It depends on what it is that you're trying to
achieve.
I think there are certainthings that you need someone to
hold you accountable.
I'm not a person that's intobasketball or a lot of athletics
.
I love watching you know theUFC.
It's something that I loveabsolutely, and I love watching
college wrestling and things ofthat nature.
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I know that Michael Jordan isan amazing basketball player.
I know that LeBron James isamazing basketball player and
Steph Curry is amazingbasketball player.
I know that Jordan borrows anamazing wrestler.
And no matter how great any ofthese people are even my homes
(15:34):
great quarterback, but there'sonly one Tom Brady.
Sorry, all of these people hada cup.
They couldn't do it on theirown.
They have a team, but they havea coach that ultimately says
this is the expectation You'regoing to execute.
You're going to do this.
(15:55):
When we look at a lot of theseindividuals, we see them as just
the individuals and not thatthere's a person that makes them
run drills, not that there's aperson that makes them throw
that ball over and over and overand over and over again and
says to them that was a crappythrow, or if you're playing golf
(16:18):
, that's a horrible swing, don'tdo that.
We just see the success and wesee them being in action, but we
don't see the backgroundgroundwork that was put into
place, and that's something thatwe don't realize.
That they're accountable tosomeone and they're also
accountable for someone andwhether it be their families or
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their significant others, whathave you?
But they are someone.
They are guiding their hand sothat they can perform the way
that they do.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Do you think we can half achieve our goals, or do
you think achieving goals isbinary resolution?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
In truth, no one accomplishes their goals on
their own.
But that's not my question Do Ithink that anyone can have
achieved their goal?
Yes, no, because the goal iswhat?
The definition?
You can change the definitionof your goals.
If you change the definition,then you can fully achieve your
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goal.
Not how to achieve it, but evenin that endeavor you didn't do
it on your own Because I wasthinking for a brief moment and
I'm in line with that idea.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
you can get part of a way to achieving a goal.
That does not mean you achievethe goal but by ourselves.
If we're setting particularlylofty goals, I think we can get
the majority of the way there,that you don't need someone else
or do you accountable or tolift you up in some manner to
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get you all the way.
But it definitely helps to havesomeone else.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yes, and again, it's also the title of goals as well.
Not all goals require help fromothers.
Some goals are just simply yougetting off your butt and doing
something.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I want to clean the bathroom today.
Exactly, I want to clean outthe fridge today, which I didn't
do, by the way.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
My goal Go to the grocery store today.
It's within reason.
Within reason, there arecertain individuals that can't
just go to the grocery store,but there's also many
individuals who can choose to goto the grocery store and not
order DoorDash because they cancook a meal and they have the
ability to do so.
They're like, oh my gosh, mycholesterol is so high.
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They've cooked a meal thatwouldn't contribute to you
having high cholesterol.
You'd be good.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
But you think people rely too much on excuses as a
crutch.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yes, one million percent.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
All line, a little bit too much with the mentality
of trying to achieve a goal.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I think most people don't have goals, so they don't
need to achieve a goal or eventry to accomplish a goal In the
first place.
Most people aren'tgoal-oriented individuals that
set meaningful things to achieve, wandering aimlessly.
It's not just wanderingaimlessly, it's that they want
things.
They just don't have a goal forthose things.
(19:32):
For example, if I just said toyou I want to be rich and famous
, that is a goal essentially,but usually there's no outline
to it.
There's no outline yes, toobroad.
Exactly what are you what berich and famous with what?
Are you going to go intobroadcasting, or are you going
to go into journalism in atraditional sense?
Are you going to be a famoustherapist?
(19:54):
You know, like Break it downinto its components, exactly.
Every little step, but theydon't know how to do that
because most people aren'ttaught how to think or think
critically, and so, withinthinking critically, it means
that you can be critical toyourselves.
People can be critical in waysthat hold them back when it
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comes to themselves let's sayself-deprecation, right but
they're not critical tothemselves when it comes to
lifting them up, liftingthemselves up.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, they don't give themselves enough crates.
Exactly, they undermine howmuch they actually know, not
just about themselves, butwhatever they're-.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Exactly.
You know, I always use thisquote whenever I get into the
mindset that something isdifficult, I say to myself I
have to believe in the enormityof my endless potential.
You know, you have to believein your own hype.
You have to be your own biggestfan.
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You're not always going to beat 100%.
You're not always going to tellyourself man, I'm going to get
out of bed today, I'm definitelygoing to do laundry, I'm going
to hold it.
You know what else I'm going todo.
I'm going to clean the car.
I'm going to fully detail it.
Of course, those things aresimple in nature, but think
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about how many of us that's likeit's hard for us to do.
We'll go to work, and we workin environments where we are the
kings and queens of organizing.
We go into jobs where, when itcomes to analytics, we're like
AI on steroids and yet when itcomes to ourselves, man, I can't
organize this laundry.
(21:42):
Hell, we countable the job notat home.
Exactly, and I think that's oneof the primary reasons why we
can't accomplish things isbecause we don't have anyone to
hold us accountable toaccomplish those things.
There's no repercaution.
There isn't.
Sometimes you have to giveyourself those repercussions
that if I don't do this, then Iwon't do it.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Sometimes it has to be that way, not just
repercussions, but at your job,assuming you are working a
stable job, right, you probablyhave some sort of schedule
you're following at your job,some kind of process you follow,
and it's consistency.
Yeah, at home we're far moredistracted, we're far more
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relaxed and I would venture tosay most people are less likely
to fall into any sort of patternor consistency towards what
they want to work for as a goal.
And well, maybe it's wrong tosay people won't, but it's
important to recognizeconsistency is key in whatever
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it is you're trying to achieve.
Even if there are some days onprogramming projects, I've just
completely spent my brain on it,all the energy I have, and I
can't bat them to look at it.
But I know personally that if Istop working on something for a
certain undefinable period oftime because it varies with
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project to project I willprobably never pick that up
again, or I won't pick it up formonths.
And so even just opening it up,looking at the project, maybe
fixing a typo in just a string Itype, or renaming a variable or
something, or just somethingsmall, to have the project
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present in my subconscious, justbecause I looked at it for two
minutes today and I didn't evendo anything.
The fact that I'm stillengaging with the goal is the
key here.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Exactly the goal.
The goal is understanding and Ithink, where too many people,
they have this all or nothingmentality and they're like if I
don't do, if I don't cut out allthe sugar out of my diet, I'm
never going to lose weight.
And so, as opposed to takinghaving an incremental approach,
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an approach that is measured, anapproach that says it's okay to
mess up some time, I am goingto stumble towards my goal, and
maybe it's not a sprint all theway to the finish line, maybe
it's a walk to the finish line.
Some of us are going to be thetortoise and some of us are
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going to be the cheetah.
The important thing is that weget there, or we attempt to get
there, and if it doesn't workout the way that we think, then
we just need to reassess andreevaluate why things did not
play out how we expected them to.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And it's not ever failure, because you've learned
something from even if you don'taccomplish what you're going
for.
You have learned something fromthe process.
You've gained something.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Absolutely, and I say this to my team all the time
Failure isn't final.
No one truly fails unless theyjust completely abandon the
thing that they set out to do.
That is failure.
Failure isn't real.
Lose a loss isn't a loss ifyou've learned something because
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you just gained something.
There were times where I wereinvesting in the stock market
and I lost a lot and I lookedand said to myself well, why did
I lose?
Did I lose because I was toocomfortable?
(25:34):
Did I diversify enough?
Did I just think that this highhorse would never end?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Or did you just get unlucky?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
In terms of the things that I can control.
Notice, what I said in thebeginning is what I am
re-evaluating and reassessingwhat I could have done
differently and knowing that onthe journey we're gonna have
moments where we say the peaksin the valleys right, the feast
in the fountains.
(26:06):
The roller coaster of life,exactly.
If I'm on the roller coasterand I'm about to Be at the high
point, I have to know thatthere's gonna be a little.
So during my high points after,prepare for my low points,
because my low points are coming.
Winter is coming, it is coming,and when the winter is here you
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don't have a bound to fullharvest.
You have to read until spring,and that's always.
Those are little analogies thatI use when I see things are
really going well and I'mrevalidating and reassessing,
I'm how to progress.
I think about that East bad andwinter spring.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
You've even got me thinking of another good analogy
I'm kind of just coming up withon the spot go for it is that I
Say you're out hiking in anational park, maybe Outwest or
up north, where there's actuallymountains, not down here in the
flat Florida.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
There's Claremont and we are the highest point in
Florida, don't forget sure Not awhole lot to look at
comparatively.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But if you're out hiking and you looked out, you
might see a mountain range rightand you might see the peaks in
the valleys, the ups and thedowns, the mountain range.
You might think I want to climbup that peak, up to that peak.
But you do have to make a lotof work to get to the peak but
you also have to come back down.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Can I get a make a build off of your analogy?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
When you're at the mountain, admire the valley.
When you're at the valley,admire the peak.
There's a beauty in thatprocess of your high times and
there's a beauty in the processof Understanding your low points
as well.
They're always going to bemoments where Reflection and
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understanding.
Yes, absolutely, and there'salso moments in which the thing
that you're looking at as atragedy is Really just a comedy.
You know, sometimes it's alaugh at your own times.
It's a pretty dark comedy.
It's a dark comedy Absolutely.
Life can be a dark comedy andsometimes it's just the outlook,
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you know, and just remainingunfazed in certain situations
and having an appreciation forthat hard times because when the
good times come, you're gonnabe so much more equipped dealing
with Other goals because youtook the time to do it the right
way.
You, you learned that when Iwas accomplishing this golf,
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there were peaks and valleys.
Logical conclusion in otherendeavors there will also be
peaks and valleys.
Let me prepare myself Mentallyin the ways I didn't prepare
myself in the last endeavor thatI pursue.
The goal is to be advancing.
As you know, we progress inlife and that may not always
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come in the form of monetarygains or social standing.
Sometimes it comes in the formof me just learning to follow my
laundry correctly and Having acleaner house and a happier wife
and the kids that Don't make asbig a big a mess.
You know the my goals are verysimple.
I.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Mean, simple goals are Good to have a boring guy
hey, so my, but the simple,achievable goals.
It's like building a toleranceto the ability To Using simple.
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Using and achieving simplegoals is like building muscle
the more you do it, think of themuscle gets and the easier it
becomes tackle the bigger goals.
What's the lofty is gold you'veever pursued Honestly, really
take, really think about it assomeone who's never really been
(30:19):
goal oriented that it's actuallyvery hard question.
I'm actively trying to be moregoal oriented.
As I've mentioned, I've had alot of free time To reevaluate
what I want out of life, thingsI want to pursue when I want to
be job wise.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Dum, dum, dum dum.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I, I would say Biggest goal and it's broad.
Right, it's not.
It's not specific in any formor fashion, but you just Be able
.
We're asking if I've achievedor just didn't go.
I've said set, set, okay, yeah,um, it would be to Make enough
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to live comfortably, to doWhatever I want with regards to
whatever interest has myattention at that at any given
time.
Interests usually involveAngible things.
Well, no, it's a broad goal.
(31:29):
Right, it's a broad life goal.
I don't want a whole lot out oflife, just to be comfortable,
maybe, and be able to pursuewhatever information in my
poppies interest me.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Achieving simple is the most complete.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I Strip um simple can be a lot of things which makes
it complex and Complex as easy,because you could always find
problems.
Hey, complex is more problemsolving.
You know it's kind of like.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's kind of like in a relationship where, as a would
go, it's complicated.
Then you know it's reallysimple.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, two sides of the same coin, exactly that,
aren't?
Things aren't as simple as wealways make enough to be in
there.
No, it's complex.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Exactly.
You know, it's like the thebeginning and the end are the
same things.
Every end is a beginning andevery beginning is an end, and
sometimes, on this journey oflife, we come to the realization
that, in order to be the new,you have to shed the old you.
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I should go on a shirt In orderto be the new, you have to shed
the old you.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And then a shirt that you could just rip off all the
time exactly roll off in a crowd.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm gonna start creating taglines for shirts
from now on?
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I mean, yes, you do have to shed the old you, but
it's important to never give up.
It's important to never losefocus and Shed yourself in such
a fashion that you lose focuswhere you came from, or it's in
pieces that are you at your core, things you can't shed.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You think you can't you are always your poor during
that process Because looks likeI, like a crab.
A crab goes out old out of ashell shell, yeah, true, no,
we're a snake still the samesnake, just a new skit.
You know, had to shed the oldto do to be the new.
Growth in life is like that aswell.
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A lot of people they want to bethe new, but they drag so much
of all the baggage and all ofthe things that make them not
accomplish their goals, such asthe words of other people that's
put them down.
And, of course, trauma.
It's hard to overcome andthat's understandable.
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I mean, what's trauma foreveryone is also relative, and
that's something that otherpeople have to understand as
well.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
They haven't, or necessarily haven't, thought
about the things that they don'tneed, that they Might like
currently they don't need to becarrying on with, haven't Come
to realization or acceptance.
These things habit, bad habits,things that are just not good
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for you.
Well, I guess I mean, I mean,form a habit out of anything.
That's a really broad one, butmaybe you have bad eating habits
, or maybe you are reallylethargic, or or Maybe you're
not the problem.
Everyone else is the problem,which means you're the problem.
Yeah, you know, it's those,those things.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
All right here's question.
Oh, that's great Doing thispodcast and I Completely
blindside you with the podcastdoing it today.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, I kind of expected it was coming at some
point.
Yeah, yes, you hit me earlierthan I was expected.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, and Now that you've gone through the process
of doing a podcast like, whatare your, what are your thoughts
like so far on Going, throughit.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I Went in not having any idea how we were going to
talk, what we're gonna talkabout.
You kind of told me you knowit's an all-encompassing thing,
it's whatever it is, yeah andokay.
That makes some sense Muchbetter when I can speak broadly
anyway, as opposed to reallyfocused on the topic.
My mind lets to jump and wandersometimes, but also I'm.
(35:58):
I was still a little like I'mnot entirely sure what I'm gonna
talk about.
I'm just gonna kind of wing itwhen we get here, and it's more
a case if I just need my Socialgears lubricated, I suppose, and
to be put in a position whereit's more active and less
passive listening exactly andyou know, right there there's.
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There's a point of improvementfor me.
Part of part of the old me toshed is that I shouldn't be as
passive in conversation.
I Know why I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Why are you like that ?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Because most of the time I'm just Not willing to put
forth the effort to engage inconversation.
Why not fully paying attention?
We're in an environment that'sgreat for me fully paying
attention.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's quite what makes it.
But let's go back to the let'stalk about everything concept.
Yeah, you or the gear, so youdid not want to put forth the
effort to conversation, like,why was that a thing that is?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
where does that stem from?
That's old, learned habits,from being called teachers, pets
.
We're just being the one toanswer every single question and
being like thinking you know,maybe I should let others have a
chance.
Or when I do speak up, peoplestill typically ignore me Until
(37:28):
you know it's already done.
It's like I don't want to bethe guy to say I told you so,
but Even if it's not fully, Itold you so.
It's like I had a point.
It's it After a point.
It's not just not willing toput in the effort, but it's also
that it was a learned responsethat you know Not everyone cares
(37:53):
.
It's now so I might control it.
I can't make everybody care.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
But yeah, I think that's where most of the Not
willing to put in the effortcomes from.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
We'll take something If thoughts matter.
You might, of course, and weonly get to do this game of life
once.
I think that there's a not youknow this thing that I heard
once.
It's like oh, you can eitheroperate in love or fear, and you
(38:30):
know they've been.
They give the differentbranches of all the things that
fell under the love column andfear column and, at the end of
the day, the only thing thatever really matters is that
you're being true to you andthat I told you so is never
really needed, because the factthat the other person was wrong
was the I told you so, and I'velearned that, you know, in my
(38:54):
growth is that I never do the Itold you so.
I take the approach now of whenI'm ignored or I'm not listened
to.
I simply just say this onephrase how can I help?
And that keeps me grounded,because usually in an I told you
(39:18):
so situation, there areconsequences that I'm like why
am I even a part of this Like?
Why am I helping to clean up?
this mess right now, when I toldyou so and that used to make me
angry, but now it's.
How can I help?
Because the people you love aregoing to make mistakes, because
(39:43):
they're human and a lot oftimes, you know, we as people
think that ah man, if only theworld was a better place.
It doesn't matter if the worldis a better place or not.
What matters is that you'redoing your part in being a good
person.
Bad things are always going tohappen in life.
People are always going todisappoint us in life, people
(40:05):
are going to fall short in life,and the ideal does not exist,
and what exists is what wecreate to be our ideal.
There is no true greater idealand we can't achieve that
greater ideal.
The individual impacts thewhole, and so all you can say is
(40:30):
we're here to help.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
You know, a lot of people need to help too.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
But I don't mean not necessarily large amounts of
help, a little guiding hand, alittle positive reinforcement.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Absolutely.
I mean, I told you about, youknow, the story of this
transient gentleman that I met.
You know transient homeless orwhat have you that I met and
this guy was a genius.
At first I thought that he wascrazy, because he's comes to me
(41:09):
and he says, oh yeah, this, oh,I mean, you know and tell me all
these things, and I wasgenuinely interested in all that
he had to say.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Everything sounded like it made sense, but at the
same time, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I'm looking at him but not I'm not paying attention
to his words.
And it got to the point whereit was, like I said to you, I
didn't believe 80% of what yousaid and then 20% of what you
said.
I'm like this is plausible, orI'm like this really, really
could be true.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
The aura, so to speak .
He gave off was crazy, but whenyou pay attention to who he was
.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Exactly, and so they go to a bar later that night.
I'm speaking to these twogentlemen and you know we're
talking about AI together andthey were discussing, you know,
some problems they were havingwith you know, with AI and what
(42:10):
have you Mind, you, both ofthese gentlemen?
They're like see you, the CEOof a Canadian company that deals
with AI and things of thatnature, and I was just.
I regurgitated what thishomeless man said to me as a
joke and when I did, they werelike that makes sense.
(42:34):
That's the answer right there,and I don't even remember what I
regurgitated.
Again, it was slightlyinebriated.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I'm regurgitating for a good story.
I've repeated what a homelessman said to me, to some CEOs,
and now they're making moremoney.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
And then they, literally, as a thank you, they
were like all right, let's keepthe tab open, you know, and you
can order whatever you want.
I'm like, oh, thank you, thisis perfect and one of my goals,
and you'll see in my 10-yeargoal that I have hung up.
(43:12):
One of the things was to formdeeper connections with people,
and I can't achieve that unlessI take the time to humble myself
, be willing to listen to thewords of people who I may think
that their words are crazy, andif I listen, truly actively
(43:37):
listen, as you stated earlier,then the words that are coming
out of their mouth aren'tactually crazy, because my
biases are putting blinders overmy eyes and then they're
putting earplugs in my ears, soI can't fully grasp the gravity
(44:02):
of a situation.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
You are not responsible for the first
thought that comes to your mind,but you are responsible for the
second thing that comes out ofyour mind when it comes to
having an opinion on something,of course, and your first
thought is always a trainedresponse, of course, absolutely
(44:25):
Like the other.
Second is what you think.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Absolutely Honest.
I mean, it's the onion concept.
You have to peel back thelayers, you have to, and you
know, going through the journey.
And then this gentleman said tome.
He said Some of us are homeless, we don't need money from
anyone.
You know, it would nice to knowthat we're still people and
(44:51):
that people would take the timeto just say hello and not treat
us like we don't exist.
But I was like mind blown, mindblown.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
But it's so simple.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
It is so simple, but it's complicated, you know, and
I'm learning to be better man.
You know I am, I'm learning tobe better, and I'm far from
being perfect, and my goal isnot to be perfect.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
It's not easy to be better compared to yourself.
Yeah, Compared to others it canbe quite easy, but compared to
yourself, you can.
It's definitely too easy to behard on yourself, too hard on
yourself.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That's your mentally so it is, and some of us will
find a way to be extremely hardon ourselves and can't even find
reasons to forgive ourselves.
That also comes very easy to alot of people and they're done
that.
The internal, you know voicethat says, hey, you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
You know, it's not the voice that makes the excuses
for you.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah that, oh, you're just going to leave like
everybody else and it's likeyou're creating that self
fulfilling.
You know prophecy.
You're letting that firstthought win Exactly, instead of
looking at the fact that, oh,this person cares, this person
is there for me, this personlistens, this person generally
wants what's best for me.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
It is unfortunately human nature to focus on the
negative more than the positives.
It's it's a reflex to say thatwe need to work more to
counteract.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
You know, and a space that is absent of negativity is
a space that can cure that.
I've had moments where, like Iwas in a dark place and the
(46:53):
things that got me out wasn't myironclad confidence, and I do
have a supreme confidence inthings that I believe in.
I don't think that I can bestopped in a lot of things that
I believe in, because I know howmuch work I put into something.
I understand that I will fail insome areas, but I know that the
(47:15):
failure is not final and I'mokay with that because I'm not
dead, I'm alive.
But when you're in that darkplace and you don't have anyone
that believes in you and peopleonly see the results of all the
other things that you've done,but they don't even want to even
(47:37):
listen to the thing that you'retrying to do, and even though
you've like, it's morefrustrating when you have the Ws
to back up the things that youwant to do but other people
don't want.
They fight against it, and soyou're having to fight against
your own self, to fight againstthe fact that people are pushing
(47:59):
you back, against you, andyou're still trying to like,
just be positive.
You're still trying toaccomplish that goal and that's
it's lofty endeavor, because youfeel like no matter where you
turn, it's an L.
You feel like the world'sagainst you Absolutely and your
and your world is actuallyagainst you, because that is
(48:22):
your world.
You're in that world, thatspace, that environment, that
environment of hostility ortoxicity or what have you, and
you have to still get that thingdone that you're trying to
accomplish.
That's tough and you know,whenever I've ever gone through
that.
The thing that's kept me goingtruly is knowing that you know
(48:46):
what.
It's just another day at theoffice, and that reference makes
you know as my fools are.
It's just another day at theoffice, it's just a part of life
to encounter BS.
There will never be a situationin life where anything is
(49:06):
perfect.
There's always going to bepickups, hurls, potholes.
Exactly Mountains in your way,obstacles that people place
there, it's going to be there,and to expect anything else is
why we fail at accomplishing ourgoals, because we expect the
journey to be easy and withoutany.
(49:28):
You know mistakes.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
We all live in our own little worlds.
We just need to learn to createour own worlds with respect to
others.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Absolutely, and you know, the saying is that, you
know, every villain is the heroof their own story.
What you know, maybe you needto be the hero of your villain's
story and then you'll learn tobe good.
You know, I'm quite happy.
My communications teacher oncetold me to never use the word um
(50:02):
when speaking to her.
Um, it's just a filler word,sorry, I know, I've done that
quite a few times.
No, I that's, but that's what Imean, though.
It's a filler word, but it's away of processing.
It's a pause as well.
Yeah, that's what I would sayto her.
It's a pause, that's what yousaid.
It's pause and uh, this is aperfect example of being able to
(50:27):
accomplish your goal, becausesomeone that is there to hold
you accountable and what haveyou, and speaking with people, I
have a great level of respectfor my former professor, you
know, professor Tan, who uh was,was uh mind blowing, because
(50:49):
you ever, if you judge a book byits cover, sometimes, like you,
can be so wrong.
So, my, my, my professor,communications professor, uh,
miss Tan, um, she, she, shespoke, um, she kind of sounds
(51:14):
like a female version of myselfand the, the, the, in terms of,
like our speech patterns.
It's a nation.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yes, and the the flow of the conversation, the
thoughts.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Absolutely Minus the fact that she's a communications
professor and she has like agazillion little years of
experience that I I could notever expect to have.
Uh, she, we're having aconversation and we're talking
about food and you know, andshe's telling me about all these
(51:54):
, these, uh, jamaican meals andthings of that nature and I was
like, oh my gosh, like I thoughtthat she was from Singapore and
you know what, not like the,her, her knowledge of Jamaican
gastronomy is so vast that I wasjust mind blowing.
I'm like their husband's makingthem Like oh, that's right,
(52:14):
she's not married and she'snever been married, so that's
like whatever.
And it turns out that her, uh,I guess like she was a part of
an exchange program a long timeago and that the people who did
it.
there was a Jamaican family thatadopted her, so sometimes yeah.
(52:38):
So you know, that is like oneof those things that are like oh
, wow like she had Jamaicanparents and make sense.
You know, and uh, it's, it's.
It's good to find ways andthings in which you have a
(53:00):
common ground with otherindividuals and use that as a
segue to accomplishing yourgoals.
When people feel that you aresimilar to them or they can see
themselves in you and you cansee yourself in them and you're
able to make them out to be aperson that you can utilize to
(53:22):
hold yourself accountable orhold them accountable, it
becomes easier to attain yourgoals.
And you have to find thatperson that you know that's
always going to be honest withyou and say that, hey, that
speech that is low tier.
I was like well, I'll do betternext time, because now, now, you
(53:43):
do better right now in thisconversation.
Don't use um in thisconversation like you did in the
speech.
Do better right now.
You have the ability to do so.
Do it.
And having someone call me outlike that, you know, I was like,
oh, oh, my gosh, she knew anduh, it, just it overall made me,
(54:08):
made me better and I'm gratefulfor that.
And now, whenever I'm speaking,I I think about certain things,
even though I do the badactions, though.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I was.
Uh, obviously I haven't spokenat length in a while, in a while
in a this wouldn't really be aprofessional setting, more in a
more formal setting Uh, so I wastaught to not use on eventually
(54:41):
, and what I did end up leaningon is long periods of silence,
but little longer.
Yeah, Uh, for two, this pausesand maybe extending the final
(55:04):
syllable of something, as it's akind of slowly ease into the
pause.
That's, those are the things Ilanded on, and it takes a lot of
mental effort for me to not useUm.
It's kind of become a part ofmy daily speech.
I'm thinking about things.
It's not necessarily bad thing.
(55:25):
I don't think certain teachersmight argue otherwise, but I
suppose you could say that wehave just created a goal for me
to, to, to regain that ground ofnot relying on um or I don't
know what else would people use,like, like, yeah, that's,
(55:47):
that's a good one.
I remember a friend of mine.
Uh, way back in little schoolwe used to always end off things
with, you know.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Absolutely.
But those are filler thoughts.
You know filler words and sowhenever in terms of like in a
formal setting, if you want toknow if I like someone or not,
you will know, because myvocabulary is not relaxed at all
, it is stiff and and and andthe void of life is extremely
(56:23):
formal, is robotic.
There is no robustest in there.
It's just me just being adictionary to you.
In terms of me, I would neveruse the word like, such as.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Well, now you're.
Now you're using a synonym.
It's not really a synonym, buta synonym a similar phrase to
life, instead of sayingabsolutely.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
It's such as, so it takes on a different meaning.
Exactly that is what I mean, I,when I use like, it makes me
more approachable, it's morenormal, it's more socially
normal, and if I go such as,it's saying back off, I'm going
to throw this dictionary at.
You know, figuratively speaking, um, and I like that concept of
(57:11):
oh, my goodness, I can usewords to either pull people in
or push people away, withoutbeing malicious or in their face
about it, exactly.
And so I've learned to embracethe idea of asking for help when
(57:32):
I need it to accomplish mygoals.
I've learned to talk about my,my feelings, and to see where,
where I am mentally.
You know what, what is my stateof being?
You know, um, is the mind framethat I'm taking on the right
one?
It doesn't matter if I thinkI'm right or if I think I'm
(57:57):
wrong about something, it's thatI have the ability to ask for
help.
And so sometimes you know youneed a little guidance, and
that's okay to need a littleguidance.
You all need it, and I justtake this as an opportunity to
just embrace the fact that I'mhuman in that, such as life, man
(58:18):
.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
Here's a really good catch up from all the way, when
we first started recording tothis point right now.
Are you familiar with rubberduck debugging?
Speaker 2 (58:28):
I am not.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Okay, I couldn't tell you when.
Probably in the seventies ornineties, I don't remember the
time period exactly.
But the point being was,programmers would sit in their
little cubicle staring at theircomputer screen.
They'd get tripped up overtheir own code.
And this is before Googledidn't really?
You couldn't just Google stackexchange, whatever your problem
(58:54):
is, or just Google broadly forit to get an answer?
Speaker 2 (58:58):
That's what Yachtle is for.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, you would have to consult your peers in your
direct vicinity.
Yeah, so before you do that,some people found it easier to
speak to an inanimate objectabout the problem, instead of
letting the issue be run overand over and over inside of the
(59:22):
brain, despite them explainingit to themselves and their mind
over and over and over.
Some people had a little yellowand orange rubber ducky sit on
their desk and they would lookat the rubber ducky and they
would say here's my problem,here is how the code works.
They would speak to thisinanimate object and vocalizing
(59:42):
the problem, these steps, theunderstanding of it all, is
enough to change their ownperspective to solving their own
problem.
And we don't necessarily.
Obviously, yes, having someoneto speak with helps, because
it's like having someone to haveyour ideas bounce off of, get
(01:00:02):
another opinion of, but you canalso get a different opinion for
yourself by simplyexternalizing your thoughts,
speaking to yourself in theshout, or maybe modeling to
yourself before you go to bed toclear your mind, the sister, or
kick back and relax and stareout the window with a nice cup
of tea or coffee or whateveryour favorite snack, and just
(01:00:25):
vocalize your thoughts toyourself, as opposed to letting
them sit and stew marinated inyour mind.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
You know, that's Satan's deep heart.
We can always, you know, wallowin our own suffering, or what
have you like, such as I wasmaking fun of my college
professor there just now.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
It's important we get outside of our own minds, not
just our own comfort zones.
Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Of course, you know, one of the things that have
always held me back as a humanbeing was the fact that
sometimes I would get caught upin my own head.
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I would stay there and I wouldn't want to like work
through anything else.
I just would stay in that realmof my head and if I stayed
there for two months, thenthat's just where I stay.
And the truth is, this taughtme that I can't have certain
people or certain things that Ihave no control over occupy my
(01:01:35):
mental real estate anymore.
I have so many good people whorely on me and they mean the
best version of me, not aversion that I allow people who
don't even matter to occupy me,people that lift you up and let
(01:01:59):
them be the ones that hold youaccountable for reaching your
goals.
Exactly, and that's what makesme a boring guy.
You know.
I really do appreciate youtaking the time to do the
podcast with me and I'mextremely grateful.
I look forward to the next timeyou decide to come on to the
(01:02:22):
Magnificent Ones podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
It's been a joy.
I always do enjoy sitting in aroom listening to people who are
far more intelligent than I am.
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I think that if you play back this podcast, you'll
see that you're the intelligentone in this country.
I'm not saying I'm not theintelligent one.
I'm saying that you are the guy.
This is your world and I'm justoccupying it somewhat, and
you're not just occupying a partof it.
Now, exactly, you know, what'svaluable about having platforms
(01:03:00):
is you choose who's on yourplatform, and I think that
everyone brings something to thetable, and I love the fact that
.
I love how people's brains workI do and having the time to just
sit down, talk to someone andsee what their passions are and
(01:03:26):
or learn what their passions are.
It allows you to also reflectand look inward in ways that let
you know that, oh my goodness,I'm not the only one that thinks
this way.
Other people are going throughthe same things that I'm going
through.
Other people have it worse thanI do, and I love.
(01:03:52):
The thing that I heard onInstagram a long time ago is
that you know you're worriedabout getting a bigger house.
When someone just wants to livein a house, you're worried
about the fact that you can'tget, you know, caramel in your
coffee when someone just wishedthey could have something to eat
.
And the realities of life.
(01:04:14):
Sometimes they don't trulyreflect a person's.
I'm trying to make it, you know,easily to more palpable.
Sometimes the reality of likesomeone's life doesn't reflect
(01:04:36):
the greater reality of others,because they're so engulfed and
consumed by themselves that theydon't take the time to see that
others around them have itworse, and that's something that
I had to help we could all doto be open with each other much
more than we already are.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
More together, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Well, let's do more together.
Raise each other up, yeah, andwith that you know I'm going to
listen to some amazing music andlooking forward to that, isn't
there's a?
I want to listen to someclassical music, just to go back
to a mental head space that Iwas at when I was younger that I
(01:05:25):
knew came from two thingsworking out and classical music.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
You did the two hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I did the two hand in hand Again, dude.
Thank you, I really appreciatethis.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
It was a pleasure.
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