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March 19, 2025 18 mins

In this episode of The Making Of, host Flor Frances sits down with Robbie Grey, frontman of Modern English, to revisit the raw energy and dark atmosphere behind their 1981 debut album, Mesh & Lace. While the band is often associated with their hit I Melt With You, this record stands as a defining piece of the early goth and post-punk movement.


Robbie takes us back to the bleak reality of early '80s England—riots, economic struggles, and the rise of post-punk’s experimental sound. He shares stories of writing songs in squats, stealing equipment to survive, and the fast-paced, live-recorded sessions that shaped Mesh & Lace into the urgent, visceral album it became.

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Live Event Alert! Catch exclusive in-store interviews at Technique Records (Miami, FL) for an up-close look at legendary albums. The Next Live event will be during Record Store Day on April 12th.


Make sure to catch Modern English Live During their North American Tour with Simple Minds and Soft Cell. May - June 2025.


Which album should we cover next? Let us know in the comments!


This podcast was produced by Too Much Love Media and Technique Records.


Edited by Diego Carrera


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