December 20, 2023 • 24 mins
In this episode, Mama Judy and I share insights from YOU, the listeners. We posed this question on Instagram>> What is the BEST piece of advice you've received that has influenced your art?
We got so many GREAT responses and are thrilled to be sharing them here with you today! Take these nuggets of advice and use them to inspire and guide you in your creative life!
We thank the following artists who submitted a piece of advice to share on this episode:
Pam at https://www.instagram.com/pamv6820/
Wanda at https://www.instagram.com/paperpalacequeen/
Corinna at https://www.instagram.com/corriespapertrail/
Amy at https://www.instagram.com/amyudani/
Lynn at https://www.instagram.com/lynnmourer/
Billy at https://www.instagram.com/billygart/
Alexandra at: https://www.instagram.com/alexandraalmeida2519/
Christina at: https://www.instagram.com/christinaangelosstudios/
Karen at: https://www.instagram.com/karenzowie/
Bella at: https://www.instagram.com/bellsie6/
And https://www.instagram.com/un_coeur_creatif/
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Oh good, you made it.
We are so glad you're here.
Welcome to the Mama Judy andJill podcast, an
intergenerational chat aboutlife, art and the creative
process.
I'm your host, jill, andjoining me is my wonderful
co-host and bonus mom, mama Judy.
Let's get started.
Well, hello everyone.
(00:21):
We're so glad you've joined ustoday.
Hi Mama Judy, hi Jill, good tosee you what a beautiful day,
yes.
so today we thought it might befun At the time this is recorded
and at the time this will bepublished on the Mama Judy and
Jill podcast.
It's at the end of the calendaryear, so it's in December.
You may be listening to this atanother time, but we're getting
towards the end of the year andwe thought it would be fun to
(00:43):
offer some inspirational quotesfrom people.
You all listeners that turninto us.
So Mama Judy and I, both onInstagram, asked a question in
our Instagram stories what is aquote that someone has told you
that has influenced yourcreative process or your art
journey the most?
And so we got several quotesturned in.
(01:03):
People gave us their insights,so we thought we would share
those today, and our goal isthat you might hear something
from someone else that isinspiration and this becomes
like your quote, or it mightencourage you to think
differently about something.
And Mama Judy and I both, whenyou say, when I started reading
through these, I was like, ooh,I'm going to steal that one.
I need to think about that one.
Is that the same for you, mama?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Judy, that's exactly.
It's like going to someone'sInstagram page and being
inspired by their artwork.
So a lot of these were goodreminders or inspiration and,
like you said, they also helpyou see things in a slightly
different way.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yes, yes, exactly.
So I'm going to read them here.
I got to put my readers on.
I'm going to just go down andkind of read them and give a
little shout out to whoever sentthem into us, and so thank you
for those that did turn these inthe first one.
So our question was again whathas been a piece of advice that
someone has told you in yourlife that has influenced your
(02:02):
art or your creative process?
So Pam V 6820 says the piece ofadvice was enjoy and embrace
the creative process rather thanfocus on the desire to produce
a wow product.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh, that is so good and that's probably one that I
still fall into the trap of, andI'll reference a commission
piece that I have done a bigpainting, and I put it out on
Instagram to have the communityfollow with me because it's a
(02:38):
big project for me.
And I'm not kidding Jill, justlike Pam, I or like she said I
kept trying to oh well, sheliked this.
Oh, I don't know, you know, andI'm trying to create the
perfect piece and, like Pam, Ihad to pull back and say it's
(03:01):
not about the end, it's aboutthe process.
So that is advice that I willprobably always need to tell
myself.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Same, and also when we interviewed Wanda Katz on our
podcast and that was episode 24, by the way, that was something
that she talked about to justreally the importance of the
process versus the final outcome, and I think most people
listening would say the samething, but it is so good to
remember.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, because we all know it intellectually, but
sometimes emotionally, we do getoff track.
Yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, here's.
Oh, speaking of Wanda, actuallysent one in.
She's the next one down here onthe list.
Hers were in all caps with anexclamation point at the end.
Just show up.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Oh boy, isn't that the truth.
We've mentioned that before,but I mean, that's the number
one.
If you don't show up, how canyou create?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes, and speaking of showing up, Mama Judy and I
ended up not publishing apodcast episode last week
because I got a concussion and Ijust wasn't able to do the
recording and all that kind ofstuff.
But what happened with theconcussion, Mama Judy and this
is not one thing I told youabout what happened afterwards,
but I had such a lack ofmotivation to do anything
(04:24):
artistic.
I would come and sit down atthe table sometimes, but then I
kind of got depressed because Iwould just stare around at stuff
and have no inspiration at all.
So I do think it had to do withthe concussion, but I still
tried to show up, but it justnothing worked.
But I finally got back intodoing stuff a few days ago, so
that's good.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But you were still following Wanda's advice, you
were still showing up and youhad extenuating circumstances,
and I want to expand on that alittle bit.
We can show up someday, we cansit down and we can be
uninspired or just not be ableto think of something we want to
(05:08):
do.
And when you show up and you'resitting there, then the next
step is just to make that firstmark something simple and just
don't worry about not beinginspired unless you have a
concussion.
Now you get a pass on that one,okay, good.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I kind of felt like I did, but I thought I'd mention
that.
Yes, just show up.
That is a great one.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Thank, you, wanda and Pam.
So far, yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay, our next one is from Corey's Paper Trail.
That's the Instagram handle.
This is such a good one.
Stop comparing yourself toyourself.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's really interesting.
I got to think about that,corey.
I'd like to know more of whatyou meant by that, because the
most common thing is to compareourselves to somebody else, but
stop comparing yourself toyourself.
I'm really going to think aboutthat.
(06:13):
I'm going to try and do somecreating later today, and that
will be what I mull over in mymind.
Thank you, corey, for not justanswering, but also giving me
something new to think about.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I'm not sure and I wonder too if it could be that
you set a certain bar and if youdidn't create the thing that
you just created, just say youloved it and you're like, oh,
that was so good, what a funprocess.
I love the final piece, thenext piece.
You didn't get that feelingabout it as much and you're kind
of like, well, this is crummycompared to my last thing, maybe
(06:47):
.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That well, and that happens.
I you know I hadn't thoughtabout that, but yes, that's
happened to me.
Where I've got one is flowedand I just love it, and the next
one you go.
Oh, maybe this goes in thetrash, can?
Maybe that's what Corey meant,but I am going to keep that in
the back of my mind and thinkabout that one, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And the next one.
I should have put this in withWanda's, but Karen Zowie wrote
do it, like just do it, the oldNike saying just do it.
So it sort of lines up withwhat Wanda said just show up,
wouldn't you do it?
Show up, put something intopractice.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And we can.
If we were going to numberthese, wanda's could be first
number one.
Show up number two, just do it.
And that goes back to what Isaid.
You don't have to do the wholething, just do it.
Just make the pencil mark, puta little color on the page.
Yeah, that's a good one too,and fits right in with the
(07:47):
process.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And then we have Pam for the next one.
Enjoy and embrace the creativeprocess so that once you're
getting in there, enjoy it,don't just think about the
outcome, think about the processwhile you're in it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And in fact, jill, sometimes I have to, not have to
, but sometimes I will sit downand just remind myself, before I
even pick up a piece of paper,I'm going to enjoy this process
and that's the mindset.
Then that sort of puts mylittle ego and that little
(08:21):
character inside that wants tocreate the perfect masterpiece
at bay.
Put some on notice.
Look, you're not allowed, we'rejust going to enjoy the process
.
That's an excellent.
Every one of these are spot on.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yes, they are okay.
Moving right along.
Let's see what Amy Udani says.
Try creating when you feel sador angry.
It might surprise you with whatyou create.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh, this, amy.
This is so true when you, youknow, we've talked before art as
therapy, where you use it toprocess emotions, but I've
actually heard artists say thatwhere they have anger was the
one they were talking about,where they were so angry at
(09:13):
something that just happenedthat they went in and just it
happened to be a painter throughpaint against the canvas and
then, when they stepped back andcame back later, it was
something that had taken them toa new level in their art.
So, yes, I think there is and Imight be getting myself into
(09:37):
trouble here, so if anybodydisagrees with this, that's okay
but I don't think there's anyemotion that cannot be helped by
creating.
Whether it's anger, whetherit's sad which is what Amy
mentioned whether it's grief,anything, everything.
I think art and creating canhelp us process those and, as
(10:02):
Amy pointed out, you might comeup with something new, exactly,
yes, I love that idea, but thendon't compare yourself to
yourself when you go back to tryto repeat it.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yes from Corey.
Corey's advice Love that oneOkay this is from our friend
Lynn.
Lynn says do that which bringsyou joy.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh, what a wonderful, uplifting one.
Yes, because joy is such agreat state to live in.
And if you have something thatcan put you in that state, that
is just awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yes, I agree, and even, as Amy said, when you're
creating from a place of sadnessor anger, interesting to think
about, when you're creatingsomething joyful Now you do a
lot of grungy colors and stuffthat's like your thing but
wonder if, when people arecreating in a joyful place, if
the colors are more vibrant ormore pure or something like that
.
You know, but it can't be trueall the time, because you create
(11:01):
, enjoy and you have grungy,darker, kind of moody colors.
But it's not like you're comingfrom a dark, grungy place, but
I bet some people do.
Their colors are a lot morebright and vivid.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yes, I would say that that happens and actually I
have experimented with thosebrighter colors and they are
more joyful, they're happy.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Not that my dark colors are unhappy, but I just
love them.
To me they all the grunginessreminds me of Mother Earth.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yes, Okay.
The next one comes from someoneMama Judy and I both know and
love.
Billy G Art is his Instagramaccount.
This is my son Billy, and Billyis 27 year old.
Mama Judy's grandson, billy isa computer programmer but he
does a lot of sketching andpainting and stuff and he's very
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creative and artistic as well.
Billy says when drawing, don'tbe afraid to shade more than you
think you should.
And he got that piece of advicefrom someone.
He had drawn something, I think, and put it on Instagram and I
think he said if anyone knows,and he asked a question about
shading.
I'm pretty sure that's whathappened and someone came back
that is a real good artist.
(12:14):
So it says when drawing, don'tbe afraid to shade more than you
think you should.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think that's great, and we can take Billy's
specific art to say in art ingeneral, don't be afraid to do
more of whatever it is thatyou're doing than you thought.
For example, if you're using atechnique or a color that you're
(12:41):
not used to using, don't beafraid to use it.
Try it out, just see whathappens?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Try it out.
I could almost.
When you said that, I pictured.
I don't know why this came tomy mind, but I pictured a little
jar of paint, bright teal,sitting on someone's desk and
being frightened to use itbecause it's like, well, how do
I do this?
Like it just seems so brightand like, just do it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Just do it like someone said earlier, jane,
don't be afraid, and I think thetwo words, three words that I
would take from Billy's is don'tbe afraid, mmm, yes, that is so
good.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, here is our own friend, alexandra Almeda.
2519 is her Instagram account.
The advice that came into herfrom someone years ago, she said
, to have multiple projects, sowhen I get stuck on one I have
others.
She said I was told this in1997.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Wow, very good and she's right, and I've heard
Alexandra say before that shealways has several and actually
that's a pretty common one, Ithink, for people out on
Instagram that I follow, and wecan kind of tie it in to not
just what Alexandra said, whereyou get stuck on one, but your
(13:59):
mood.
You can have projects goingthat you're not in the mood to
do what you're doing on thisproject, but maybe you're in the
mood to do this one, so it cankind of be all encompassing.
I love the idea of havingmultiple things and maybe I have
(14:23):
ADHD.
I just I like flitting from oneto the other so that if I'm
even if the overall projects arejournals, I have the little
bitty ones, I have the mediumsize, I have the big one.
I can just work in whateversize I want and throw them on
the floor and collect them later.
I love the flexibility ofmultiple projects.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yes, and I was curious when Alexandra said that
, so I responded back to.
This is a direct messagebetween the two of us, but it
gives a little bit more feedbackon this, which I just think is
really interesting.
She said she had traveled toFinland and she met a really
nice lady, and she said thatthis woman always had multiple
crochet projects, so she alwaysfelt inspired by at least one.
(15:08):
That's an interesting point too.
Like, even though you're reallyinto this journal, you might
not be so into that journal whenyou sit down to it next week,
but if you look over at thisother one and, wow, that looks
really fun and good.
So I love that.
And she said I followed herpiece of advice because,
although I had been doing thatsince I was an adolescent, I
thought that I should finishsomething before I started
another project, and she showedme that I shouldn't put that
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pressure on myself.
Oh, excellent.
So that's even more adviceabout don't feel this pressure
like you have to finishsomething just because you
started.
Come back, the creativeinspiration will come to you at
another time perhaps.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yes that is.
I'm glad you asked Alexandrathat and we got that further
information Excellent.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yes, Okay, let's read the next one.
This is from and I'm going tobutcher this pronunciation,
probably because I'm not French,but this is from un cur create
creative which is a wonderfulname, because it translates, if
I'm correct, into a creativeheart.
(16:14):
Oh, okay, so it's in French,which I love, and this person
said do your art for you.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh, good, excellent, all of these.
I just love this because theyall fit together.
Every one of these is importantyes and you should.
Even even when you're doing acommission for somebody, you
really should do it for yourselffirst.
Do what you love again, notwhat you think that person will.
(16:46):
So yes, that's excellent adviceDo it for you?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yes, and I think too as a hobbyist, someone that
doesn't have to sell their art,so anyone that just does it for
fun it's easier for us to followthis versus someone that does
have a commission.
They know they have to turnthis around, so it's probably a
little bit more of a challengefor them to do that.
Still, very Important and Ithink, mama Judy, when you were
(17:11):
working on this big commissionpiece than you had, I could
sense three even you post aboutit some on Instagram that you
were trying to follow your ownIntuition, even though you knew
it was for this person, for thisreason.
But I could sense that you weretrying to Do it for you in a
way, because you knew whateverthat would be would be right for
them.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yes, and in fact it actually.
In that process, several of thethings that were mentioned
today came up and I stood infront of the canvas.
I was trying to think, well,what would she like?
And what I found was noinspiration came when I stepped
back and said, you know, I'mjust gonna do.
(17:51):
My interpretation of what Ithink she likes became much
easier because in that Flip Ibegan to do it for me, not for
her okay.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Next one is from Christina Angelos Studios, and
this was her advice Five minutesof drawing a day starts your
brain thinking creatively in themorning.
Oh, I love that five minutes ofdrawing, even if we're not
normal drawers.
Like I thought oh, I'm not adrawer, but that is.
It seems like a great littleexercise just to get your brain
(18:28):
going it is, and I think I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I haven't done that, you know, I think I sit and
doodle or mark me, but maybeI'll take that advice Under
consideration and just have alittle drawing pad, because
she's right, you're trainingyour brain, which is a muscle,
to be creative and get thatcreative juice going.
(18:52):
Good idea.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Mm-hmm.
So if you were to sit down anddraw, mama Judy, what might you
draw?
Just whatever comes to mind, orsomething I.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Might draw a sunflower, or I might draw a
Table or or just something.
Yeah, I might draw circles,yeah, exactly balloons.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Thank you, Christina.
Okay, Bellsy, six yes anotherBellsy six.
We know Bellsy six.
Bellsy says don't be afraid, orjudgy can't make a mistake,
true bill.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's so true.
Thank you for reminding us thatinner voice, that judgmental
voice, is always lurking backthere and we have to remind
ourselves.
This is about the process andIn, if you think about it, jill
in the creative growth of Anycreative person.
(19:55):
What appears to be a mistakeMight just be the beginning of
something different.
But where we are, let's saywe're stuck doing something a
certain way and we accidentallydo it a different way we may
look at it as a mistake.
I, instead of oh, this might bea new beginning.
(20:21):
You know, Alexander Graham Bellwho invented the telephone, or
Edison who invented light.
One of them think it was Edison.
Somebody asked him after he'ddone hundreds of experiments
aren't you going to give up?
You haven't been able to figureit out.
(20:43):
And he said something like no,I have just found a thousand
ways not to make a light bulb.
So when we make a mistake, it'snot a mistake.
We've just found a way not todo what we want to do.
Yes, and I think if we justchange the wording a little bit,
(21:05):
our perspective on something,it will move us beyond judgment.
Yes, the judgment is a killer.
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Episode number five, a look at mistakes in the
creative process.
That was an episode that earlyon in our podcast that we
recorded stuff about makingmistakes.
So if you're interested in thator you're struggling with that
a lot, you might want to go backand listen to that episode as
well.
Yes, well, mama Judy, I thinkthe one thing I failed to think
about, like for this podcastepisode and this is as we wrap
(21:37):
up is what was the best piece ofadvice.
I actually did not sit down tothink about that, but I will say
I think mostly it's come fromyou and it's maybe not one
certain thing I can think of,but you always have been one to
just encourage me.
That's a mix of all of these.
Just try it, jill, don't judgeyourself.
You know, like all of thesethings that people are saying
(21:59):
are the things that I've heardfrom you over the years.
So I'm lucky enough to knowthat I just have a mixture of
those good pieces of advice.
But I think, especially forsomeone who didn't think she was
a creative person, to havesomeone say everyone is creative
, just try something, see whatyou like.
Like that type of advice,especially if you're not someone
who's currently creating oryou're struggling with that.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, thank you, and I didn't find one piece of
advice that resonated with me.
Because every one of thoseresonated with me?
Yes, because I know they're allso true and you need those
reminders, even if you've beencreating since the day you could
walk, because we all forget, weall fall into traps, and every
(22:46):
one of those pieces of adviceare just perfect.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I hope and I'm assuming that in your newsletter
, which people can sign up for,that you will make a reference
to those and the people so thatthey can get credit for giving
us back the advice that helps ustoday.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yes, I will link up to all of those different people
in the newsletter.
That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yes, indeed Great.
Yeah, it was fun, and I'malways so glad when people give
us comments and feedback.
I know that when they're outthere on Instagram, there's a
thousand different thingscatching their attention, so for
someone to take a moment toanswer that, I really appreciate
it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Me too.
Yes, thank you for all theinspiration everyone, and it was
fun chatting with you today.
As always, mama Judy Yep and wewill see everyone next week.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
What's that?
Oh, I keep moving.
Because the sun is shifting.
I thought, well, no, maybe Ishould sit here.
It'll look like I have a halo.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yes, it does so.
If you wanna see Mama Judy onYouTube on our YouTube, if
you're only listening todayshe's sitting outside in her
home in Southern California inthe desert.
I talked to my dad earlier.
He said it was gonna be in the70s, I think mid 70s.
Oh yes, it looks glorious.
It's sunny, versus here inAsheville we're probably in the
50s, but it's misty, rainy.
(24:09):
It's one of those days after weget done here, the three of us
are gonna go watch a littlemovie downstairs.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Perfect, two perfect days and we hope everybody has a
perfect day.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes, we do All right, everyone until next time.
We will see you then.
Thanks again for listening.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yes, Love you.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Ditto Love you.
Oh good, you made it.
We are so glad you're here.
Welcome to the Mama Judy andJill podcast, an
intergenerational chat aboutlife, art and the creative
process.
I'm your host, jill, andjoining me is my wonderful
co-host and bonus mom, mama Judy.
Let's get started.
Well, hello everyone.
(00:21):
We're so glad you've joined ustoday.
Hi Mama Judy, hi Jill, good tosee you what a beautiful day,
yes.
so today we thought it might befun At the time this is recorded
and at the time this will bepublished on the Mama Judy and
Jill podcast.
It's at the end of the calendaryear, so it's in December.
You may be listening to this atanother time, but we're getting
towards the end of the year andwe thought it would be fun to
(00:43):
offer some inspirational quotesfrom people.
You all listeners that turninto us.
So Mama Judy and I, both onInstagram, asked a question in
our Instagram stories what is aquote that someone has told you
that has influenced yourcreative process or your art
journey the most?
And so we got several quotesturned in.
(01:03):
People gave us their insights,so we thought we would share
those today, and our goal isthat you might hear something
from someone else that isinspiration and this becomes
like your quote, or it mightencourage you to think
differently about something.
And Mama Judy and I both, whenyou say, when I started reading
through these, I was like, ooh,I'm going to steal that one.
I need to think about that one.
Is that the same for you, mama?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Judy, that's exactly.
It's like going to someone'sInstagram page and being
inspired by their artwork.
So a lot of these were goodreminders or inspiration and,
like you said, they also helpyou see things in a slightly
different way.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yes, yes, exactly.
So I'm going to read them here.
I got to put my readers on.
I'm going to just go down andkind of read them and give a
little shout out to whoever sentthem into us, and so thank you
for those that did turn these inthe first one.
So our question was again whathas been a piece of advice that
someone has told you in yourlife that has influenced your
(02:02):
art or your creative process?
So Pam V 6820 says the piece ofadvice was enjoy and embrace
the creative process rather thanfocus on the desire to produce
a wow product.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh, that is so good and that's probably one that I
still fall into the trap of, andI'll reference a commission
piece that I have done a bigpainting, and I put it out on
Instagram to have the communityfollow with me because it's a
(02:38):
big project for me.
And I'm not kidding Jill, justlike Pam, I or like she said I
kept trying to oh well, sheliked this.
Oh, I don't know, you know, andI'm trying to create the
perfect piece and, like Pam, Ihad to pull back and say it's
(03:01):
not about the end, it's aboutthe process.
So that is advice that I willprobably always need to tell
myself.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Same, and also when we interviewed Wanda Katz on our
podcast and that was episode 24, by the way, that was something
that she talked about to justreally the importance of the
process versus the final outcome, and I think most people
listening would say the samething, but it is so good to
remember.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, because we all know it intellectually, but
sometimes emotionally, we do getoff track.
Yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, here's.
Oh, speaking of Wanda, actuallysent one in.
She's the next one down here onthe list.
Hers were in all caps with anexclamation point at the end.
Just show up.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Oh boy, isn't that the truth.
We've mentioned that before,but I mean, that's the number
one.
If you don't show up, how canyou create?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes, and speaking of showing up, Mama Judy and I
ended up not publishing apodcast episode last week
because I got a concussion and Ijust wasn't able to do the
recording and all that kind ofstuff.
But what happened with theconcussion, Mama Judy and this
is not one thing I told youabout what happened afterwards,
but I had such a lack ofmotivation to do anything
(04:24):
artistic.
I would come and sit down atthe table sometimes, but then I
kind of got depressed because Iwould just stare around at stuff
and have no inspiration at all.
So I do think it had to do withthe concussion, but I still
tried to show up, but it justnothing worked.
But I finally got back intodoing stuff a few days ago, so
that's good.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But you were still following Wanda's advice, you
were still showing up and youhad extenuating circumstances,
and I want to expand on that alittle bit.
We can show up someday, we cansit down and we can be
uninspired or just not be ableto think of something we want to
(05:08):
do.
And when you show up and you'resitting there, then the next
step is just to make that firstmark something simple and just
don't worry about not beinginspired unless you have a
concussion.
Now you get a pass on that one,okay, good.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I kind of felt like I did, but I thought I'd mention
that.
Yes, just show up.
That is a great one.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Thank, you, wanda and Pam.
So far, yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay, our next one is from Corey's Paper Trail.
That's the Instagram handle.
This is such a good one.
Stop comparing yourself toyourself.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's really interesting.
I got to think about that,corey.
I'd like to know more of whatyou meant by that, because the
most common thing is to compareourselves to somebody else, but
stop comparing yourself toyourself.
I'm really going to think aboutthat.
(06:13):
I'm going to try and do somecreating later today, and that
will be what I mull over in mymind.
Thank you, corey, for not justanswering, but also giving me
something new to think about.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I'm not sure and I wonder too if it could be that
you set a certain bar and if youdidn't create the thing that
you just created, just say youloved it and you're like, oh,
that was so good, what a funprocess.
I love the final piece, thenext piece.
You didn't get that feelingabout it as much and you're kind
of like, well, this is crummycompared to my last thing, maybe
(06:47):
.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That well, and that happens.
I you know I hadn't thoughtabout that, but yes, that's
happened to me.
Where I've got one is flowedand I just love it, and the next
one you go.
Oh, maybe this goes in thetrash, can?
Maybe that's what Corey meant,but I am going to keep that in
the back of my mind and thinkabout that one, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And the next one.
I should have put this in withWanda's, but Karen Zowie wrote
do it, like just do it, the oldNike saying just do it.
So it sort of lines up withwhat Wanda said just show up,
wouldn't you do it?
Show up, put something intopractice.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And we can.
If we were going to numberthese, wanda's could be first
number one.
Show up number two, just do it.
And that goes back to what Isaid.
You don't have to do the wholething, just do it.
Just make the pencil mark, puta little color on the page.
Yeah, that's a good one too,and fits right in with the
(07:47):
process.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And then we have Pam for the next one.
Enjoy and embrace the creativeprocess so that once you're
getting in there, enjoy it,don't just think about the
outcome, think about the processwhile you're in it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And in fact, jill, sometimes I have to, not have to
, but sometimes I will sit downand just remind myself, before I
even pick up a piece of paper,I'm going to enjoy this process
and that's the mindset.
Then that sort of puts mylittle ego and that little
(08:21):
character inside that wants tocreate the perfect masterpiece
at bay.
Put some on notice.
Look, you're not allowed, we'rejust going to enjoy the process
.
That's an excellent.
Every one of these are spot on.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yes, they are okay.
Moving right along.
Let's see what Amy Udani says.
Try creating when you feel sador angry.
It might surprise you with whatyou create.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh, this, amy.
This is so true when you, youknow, we've talked before art as
therapy, where you use it toprocess emotions, but I've
actually heard artists say thatwhere they have anger was the
one they were talking about,where they were so angry at
(09:13):
something that just happenedthat they went in and just it
happened to be a painter throughpaint against the canvas and
then, when they stepped back andcame back later, it was
something that had taken them toa new level in their art.
So, yes, I think there is and Imight be getting myself into
(09:37):
trouble here, so if anybodydisagrees with this, that's okay
but I don't think there's anyemotion that cannot be helped by
creating.
Whether it's anger, whetherit's sad which is what Amy
mentioned whether it's grief,anything, everything.
I think art and creating canhelp us process those and, as
(10:02):
Amy pointed out, you might comeup with something new, exactly,
yes, I love that idea, but thendon't compare yourself to
yourself when you go back to tryto repeat it.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yes from Corey.
Corey's advice Love that oneOkay this is from our friend
Lynn.
Lynn says do that which bringsyou joy.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh, what a wonderful, uplifting one.
Yes, because joy is such agreat state to live in.
And if you have something thatcan put you in that state, that
is just awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yes, I agree, and even, as Amy said, when you're
creating from a place of sadnessor anger, interesting to think
about, when you're creatingsomething joyful Now you do a
lot of grungy colors and stuffthat's like your thing but
wonder if, when people arecreating in a joyful place, if
the colors are more vibrant ormore pure or something like that
.
You know, but it can't be trueall the time, because you create
(11:01):
, enjoy and you have grungy,darker, kind of moody colors.
But it's not like you're comingfrom a dark, grungy place, but
I bet some people do.
Their colors are a lot morebright and vivid.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yes, I would say that that happens and actually I
have experimented with thosebrighter colors and they are
more joyful, they're happy.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Not that my dark colors are unhappy, but I just
love them.
To me they all the grunginessreminds me of Mother Earth.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yes, Okay.
The next one comes from someoneMama Judy and I both know and
love.
Billy G Art is his Instagramaccount.
This is my son Billy, and Billyis 27 year old.
Mama Judy's grandson, billy isa computer programmer but he
does a lot of sketching andpainting and stuff and he's very
(11:54):
creative and artistic as well.
Billy says when drawing, don'tbe afraid to shade more than you
think you should.
And he got that piece of advicefrom someone.
He had drawn something, I think, and put it on Instagram and I
think he said if anyone knows,and he asked a question about
shading.
I'm pretty sure that's whathappened and someone came back
that is a real good artist.
(12:14):
So it says when drawing, don'tbe afraid to shade more than you
think you should.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think that's great, and we can take Billy's
specific art to say in art ingeneral, don't be afraid to do
more of whatever it is thatyou're doing than you thought.
For example, if you're using atechnique or a color that you're
(12:41):
not used to using, don't beafraid to use it.
Try it out, just see whathappens?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Try it out.
I could almost.
When you said that, I pictured.
I don't know why this came tomy mind, but I pictured a little
jar of paint, bright teal,sitting on someone's desk and
being frightened to use itbecause it's like, well, how do
I do this?
Like it just seems so brightand like, just do it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Just do it like someone said earlier, jane,
don't be afraid, and I think thetwo words, three words that I
would take from Billy's is don'tbe afraid, mmm, yes, that is so
good.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, here is our own friend, alexandra Almeda.
2519 is her Instagram account.
The advice that came into herfrom someone years ago, she said
, to have multiple projects, sowhen I get stuck on one I have
others.
She said I was told this in1997.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Wow, very good and she's right, and I've heard
Alexandra say before that shealways has several and actually
that's a pretty common one, Ithink, for people out on
Instagram that I follow, and wecan kind of tie it in to not
just what Alexandra said, whereyou get stuck on one, but your
(13:59):
mood.
You can have projects goingthat you're not in the mood to
do what you're doing on thisproject, but maybe you're in the
mood to do this one, so it cankind of be all encompassing.
I love the idea of havingmultiple things and maybe I have
(14:23):
ADHD.
I just I like flitting from oneto the other so that if I'm
even if the overall projects arejournals, I have the little
bitty ones, I have the mediumsize, I have the big one.
I can just work in whateversize I want and throw them on
the floor and collect them later.
I love the flexibility ofmultiple projects.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yes, and I was curious when Alexandra said that
, so I responded back to.
This is a direct messagebetween the two of us, but it
gives a little bit more feedbackon this, which I just think is
really interesting.
She said she had traveled toFinland and she met a really
nice lady, and she said thatthis woman always had multiple
crochet projects, so she alwaysfelt inspired by at least one.
(15:08):
That's an interesting point too.
Like, even though you're reallyinto this journal, you might
not be so into that journal whenyou sit down to it next week,
but if you look over at thisother one and, wow, that looks
really fun and good.
So I love that.
And she said I followed herpiece of advice because,
although I had been doing thatsince I was an adolescent, I
thought that I should finishsomething before I started
another project, and she showedme that I shouldn't put that
(15:29):
pressure on myself.
Oh, excellent.
So that's even more adviceabout don't feel this pressure
like you have to finishsomething just because you
started.
Come back, the creativeinspiration will come to you at
another time perhaps.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yes that is.
I'm glad you asked Alexandrathat and we got that further
information Excellent.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yes, Okay, let's read the next one.
This is from and I'm going tobutcher this pronunciation,
probably because I'm not French,but this is from un cur create
creative which is a wonderfulname, because it translates, if
I'm correct, into a creativeheart.
(16:14):
Oh, okay, so it's in French,which I love, and this person
said do your art for you.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh, good, excellent, all of these.
I just love this because theyall fit together.
Every one of these is importantyes and you should.
Even even when you're doing acommission for somebody, you
really should do it for yourselffirst.
Do what you love again, notwhat you think that person will.
(16:46):
So yes, that's excellent adviceDo it for you?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yes, and I think too as a hobbyist, someone that
doesn't have to sell their art,so anyone that just does it for
fun it's easier for us to followthis versus someone that does
have a commission.
They know they have to turnthis around, so it's probably a
little bit more of a challengefor them to do that.
Still, very Important and Ithink, mama Judy, when you were
(17:11):
working on this big commissionpiece than you had, I could
sense three even you post aboutit some on Instagram that you
were trying to follow your ownIntuition, even though you knew
it was for this person, for thisreason.
But I could sense that you weretrying to Do it for you in a
way, because you knew whateverthat would be would be right for
them.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yes, and in fact it actually.
In that process, several of thethings that were mentioned
today came up and I stood infront of the canvas.
I was trying to think, well,what would she like?
And what I found was noinspiration came when I stepped
back and said, you know, I'mjust gonna do.
(17:51):
My interpretation of what Ithink she likes became much
easier because in that Flip Ibegan to do it for me, not for
her okay.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Next one is from Christina Angelos Studios, and
this was her advice Five minutesof drawing a day starts your
brain thinking creatively in themorning.
Oh, I love that five minutes ofdrawing, even if we're not
normal drawers.
Like I thought oh, I'm not adrawer, but that is.
It seems like a great littleexercise just to get your brain
(18:28):
going it is, and I think I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I haven't done that, you know, I think I sit and
doodle or mark me, but maybeI'll take that advice Under
consideration and just have alittle drawing pad, because
she's right, you're trainingyour brain, which is a muscle,
to be creative and get thatcreative juice going.
(18:52):
Good idea.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Mm-hmm.
So if you were to sit down anddraw, mama Judy, what might you
draw?
Just whatever comes to mind, orsomething I.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Might draw a sunflower, or I might draw a
Table or or just something.
Yeah, I might draw circles,yeah, exactly balloons.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Thank you, Christina.
Okay, Bellsy, six yes anotherBellsy six.
We know Bellsy six.
Bellsy says don't be afraid, orjudgy can't make a mistake,
true bill.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's so true.
Thank you for reminding us thatinner voice, that judgmental
voice, is always lurking backthere and we have to remind
ourselves.
This is about the process andIn, if you think about it, jill
in the creative growth of Anycreative person.
(19:55):
What appears to be a mistakeMight just be the beginning of
something different.
But where we are, let's saywe're stuck doing something a
certain way and we accidentallydo it a different way we may
look at it as a mistake.
I, instead of oh, this might bea new beginning.
(20:21):
You know, Alexander Graham Bellwho invented the telephone, or
Edison who invented light.
One of them think it was Edison.
Somebody asked him after he'ddone hundreds of experiments
aren't you going to give up?
You haven't been able to figureit out.
(20:43):
And he said something like no,I have just found a thousand
ways not to make a light bulb.
So when we make a mistake, it'snot a mistake.
We've just found a way not todo what we want to do.
Yes, and I think if we justchange the wording a little bit,
(21:05):
our perspective on something,it will move us beyond judgment.
Yes, the judgment is a killer.
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Episode number five, a look at mistakes in the
creative process.
That was an episode that earlyon in our podcast that we
recorded stuff about makingmistakes.
So if you're interested in thator you're struggling with that
a lot, you might want to go backand listen to that episode as
well.
Yes, well, mama Judy, I thinkthe one thing I failed to think
about, like for this podcastepisode and this is as we wrap
(21:37):
up is what was the best piece ofadvice.
I actually did not sit down tothink about that, but I will say
I think mostly it's come fromyou and it's maybe not one
certain thing I can think of,but you always have been one to
just encourage me.
That's a mix of all of these.
Just try it, jill, don't judgeyourself.
You know, like all of thesethings that people are saying
(21:59):
are the things that I've heardfrom you over the years.
So I'm lucky enough to knowthat I just have a mixture of
those good pieces of advice.
But I think, especially forsomeone who didn't think she was
a creative person, to havesomeone say everyone is creative
, just try something, see whatyou like.
Like that type of advice,especially if you're not someone
who's currently creating oryou're struggling with that.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, thank you, and I didn't find one piece of
advice that resonated with me.
Because every one of thoseresonated with me?
Yes, because I know they're allso true and you need those
reminders, even if you've beencreating since the day you could
walk, because we all forget, weall fall into traps, and every
(22:46):
one of those pieces of adviceare just perfect.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I hope and I'm assuming that in your newsletter
, which people can sign up for,that you will make a reference
to those and the people so thatthey can get credit for giving
us back the advice that helps ustoday.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yes, I will link up to all of those different people
in the newsletter.
That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yes, indeed Great.
Yeah, it was fun, and I'malways so glad when people give
us comments and feedback.
I know that when they're outthere on Instagram, there's a
thousand different thingscatching their attention, so for
someone to take a moment toanswer that, I really appreciate
it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Me too.
Yes, thank you for all theinspiration everyone, and it was
fun chatting with you today.
As always, mama Judy Yep and wewill see everyone next week.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
What's that?
Oh, I keep moving.
Because the sun is shifting.
I thought, well, no, maybe Ishould sit here.
It'll look like I have a halo.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yes, it does so.
If you wanna see Mama Judy onYouTube on our YouTube, if
you're only listening todayshe's sitting outside in her
home in Southern California inthe desert.
I talked to my dad earlier.
He said it was gonna be in the70s, I think mid 70s.
Oh yes, it looks glorious.
It's sunny, versus here inAsheville we're probably in the
50s, but it's misty, rainy.
(24:09):
It's one of those days after weget done here, the three of us
are gonna go watch a littlemovie downstairs.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Perfect, two perfect days and we hope everybody has a
perfect day.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes, we do All right, everyone until next time.
We will see you then.
Thanks again for listening.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yes, Love you.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Ditto Love you.
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