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Jill (00:21):
Well, hi everyone.
We're so glad you are here withus today.
Mama Judy and I are going to betalking about something that we
spoke about back in episodethree of our podcast about
inspiration.
But at that time we talkedabout, finding inspiration
through external factors orexternal things in your life
today.
We're going to focus in on.
Inspiration that can be foundwithin and so hi mom and judy.
Mama Judy (00:44):
Hi jill.
Hi everyone.
Good to see
Jill (00:46):
everybody Yes.
And Mama Judy came up with thisidea because we both said to
each other, everyone, it seemslike, whether it's online or
friends we're talking toregarding the creative process,
people go through little dipsand lulls of not finding
inspiration for their creative,adventures.
And so it's something that iskind of evergreen that always
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needs to be discussed, but Ilove the idea of speaking about
more of the internal
Mama Judy (01:13):
things today.
Yes, and I love the wordevergreen.
Um, and you're right, Jill.
I see this word, this phrase,how do I get inspired?
I'm not feeling inspired thisweek.
So as you pointed out, itbelongs to everybody.
Yes.
And I got to thinking, and I, wementioned this a little bit in
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episode three, but I got tothinking about how I get
inspired.
But I focused on.
Not going out, say, for example,to Pinterest to get ideas, which
is very easy to do.
But the other thing that I dowhen I need to be inspired, I go
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in and just sit.
In amongst my supplies, and it'samazing when you're going
through your supplies and you'relooking at things all of a
sudden, if you just are relaxedin that state with no
expectations, how often an ideawill come to you and, um, last
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week when Lynn was over here fora play date, I asked her how she
gets inspired if she doesn't goout to look at somebody else's
And Lin's work, many of you willknow, like Jill's, is in fabric.
And it was the same thing that Isaid that I do.
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She said she goes in and justhandles her fabrics and just
sort of sits with them, if youwould.
And, and so one of the thingsthat I think we can all do when
we're feeling uninspired, justgo sit.
And touch, smell, see yoursupplies you work
Jill (03:04):
with.
Yes, I love that.
And even if it, and you know,you work with the mixed media
type things.
So whether it's paints or evenjust going in and sitting down
with your canvases, if you werea painter and your paintbrushes
and your paints and seeing thecolors and just kind of seeing
what comes to you, what'sinspired just from that, what's
right around you.
And, and
Mama Judy (03:24):
I think the key on
all of this particular way to
get self inspired is to be therein a relaxed, open minded,
almost Almost a meditativestate.
Hmm.
Um, so that you're justbreathing, you're just there.
You're not putting pressure onyourself.
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You're just sitting with thisand that kind of incubates, it's
kind of an incubation or anincubator for ideas.
Mm-Hmm.
it's amazing.
Things will pop up that in yourconscious mind, you might not
have ever thought about
Jill (04:04):
them.
Right.
Well, last week I bought a bunchof these plastic bins, Mama
Judy, to put different thingsin.
And so I think I got six of themand I just wanted to sort stuff
by color or something because itwas just becoming.
An overwhelming pile of fabric.
And then I was just like scaredto even go dig in.
But anyway, so I got these sixbins and I put everything in
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there organized.
And then the final touch, whichI did last week was my friend
has a label maker.
Put labels on it.
Now, when I come and sit in myspace, I can kind of look over
there and I see a bin full ofkind of like reds and Browns or
whatever, and even just havingit.
somewhat organized for meanyway, where I can actually see
my supplies instead of having abig pile that has inspired me a
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lot.
And it just makes thepossibilities kind of open up
because it feels more doable andnot so overwhelming.
Mama Judy (04:54):
That's an excellent
point.
And everybody has a differentapproach to that.
Um, There's no organization tomy well, I guess you'd call it
organization, but I have justpiles and piles of stuff that I
just pick up and go through andthere is no sorting.
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So depending on how you preferto work.
Well, it does the same thing.
It opens up possibilities, andthat's what inspiration is.
It's the possibilities, and Iwant to segue into another way
to keep track of thosepossibilities.
If you If you want to, if that'sa preferred way.
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When we're inspired sometimes,we get so many ideas, we almost
over get overwhelmed again.
You have all these ideas runningaround in your head.
And so if you're at that point,then maybe keep a list.
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of those ideas.
Again, this is coming from yourself inspiration when you're in
that inspiration mode.
Um, if you're a painter, you canwrite it down and sketch it out.
Just something that records yourinspiration, your idea.
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Maybe three words.
A small description, and thenyou throw it into a file.
Yes.
Now when you're feelinguninspired, you have a resource
that came from internal to goto.
And the only reason that you putit down is because as time goes
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by, we all forget about thosegreat ideas.
Yes.
But now, let's say I put, let'ssay I've done that for the last
two weeks.
And I walk in and I'm uninspiredthat day.
Well, I need something that camefrom internal to get me going.
Because even if you lookexternally at somebody's work,
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or work, I mean, your idea comesfrom the internal.
So now, all my internal thoughtsAre in an external file.
I can go to it.
I can read through it.
Maybe one of those will spark mewhere I'll go.
Oh, God, that's great.
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I want to do that idea today.
So we're keeping a catalog.
Of our internal inspiration.
Jill (07:38):
That is a great idea.
this just made me think aboutjust keeping that list is, now
this is when you're out andabout, but a lot of times things
come to me, I'm on my walk.
So internally, I'm just thinkingabout things, you know, and
things will come to me.
So I started carrying, insteadof getting on my phone, I may
have even mentioned this in thepast, but I started carrying a
little pad of paper with apencil.
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So I can just.
Got it down.
And it's just a word or two, butinspiration comes a lot for me
when I'm walking without anynoise or anything, just walking.
And so some way to record that apiece of paper on your phone,
whatever, Absolutely.
Mama Judy (08:12):
That's perfect.
It doesn't, we're lucky in thistechnological age that we have
various ways we can record ourinspiration, but You're just
been doing enough to capture theidea so that you don't lose it
because on your walk you mighthave 10 of them you get home and
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you go, it's like, it's likeyour dreams when you wake up,
you're sure you will rememberyour dreams, five minutes after
you woke up you forgotten themso let's.
Let's have an organized way tocapture our inspiration so that
then we can call on it wheneverwe need
Jill (08:54):
to.
And remember to go back to it.
And remember to
Mama Judy (08:58):
go back.
Maybe what we do, we'll put itin a file, then we'll put a note
in front of us.
Check inspiration file.
Yes.
And, and for me, Jill, I trieddoing things on my phone, in a
file, but I always forget.
I guess I'm a little more oldschool.
I always forget to go check thatfile.
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So now I start With a physicalfile down that I can pull up and
just spread out with theseideas.
Jill (09:27):
Yes, I love that idea.
Okay, so what else?
What's another one are youthinking?
Mama Judy (09:31):
we've talked about
just sitting with your supplies.
Oh, another one.
Okay.
One of the things that I doquite often, we all have
projects we start, and actually,this is one I see a lot when
somebody is paintingparticularly, but it could be
with any medium.
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So you, you're going along, youthink you're inspired, you look
at it, you go, Oh God, I hatethis.
This is horrible.
I usually just throw them in apile in the corner and they just
sit there.
But what I've also found as away for internal inspiration is
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if I go pull out, in fact I didyesterday, pull out just a piece
of paper that I had started towork on for journal pages and I
didn't like it.
It just It was like fingernailson the blackboard.
I pulled it out today, andvoila.
There are the possi Well, if Idid this, well, what if I put
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this mark here?
So if you run against thosethings that you don't like what
you've produced, it might have aplace to inspire you in the
future.
So just put those in.
I can see now I keep tellingpeople to put little piles and
files.
Pretty soon somebody's going tohave an office full of piles and
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piles and piles.
But again, just don't get rid ofit.
Just maybe put it in the, whatshall we call it?
Maybe later file, whatever.
I like that.
Or idea, maybe later, becauseagain, oh, go ahead.
Well, I was
Jill (11:18):
going to say, Ann, when
you have those little piles, at
one point when I was sort ofjust doing mostly fabric and
stitching, now I'm trying alittle watercoloring and more
collaging and stuff.
I had this little pile and I'mlike I'm probably not going to
use it but I just stuck somestuff over there.
I wouldn't have used it if Ijust kept with my stitching but
now that I'm doing other thingsI am pulling from that all the
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time and it is so inspiring.
I'm like oh my gosh this was alittle scrap of paper that had
scribbles on it but I thoughtwell if Mama Judy had this she'd
probably incorporate it into ajournal so I throw it in this
little area.
Thinking I'm going to be likeMama Judy.
And then when I get inspired oneday to do collage journal or
something, I am using that stuffand it's totally inspiring me.
And I would have never
Mama Judy (11:59):
guessed it.
Another perfect example.
Um, I think the reason Jill, Iwanted to touch base on
inspiration again, is to makesure that everybody under, not
understands, but was aware thatinspiration really doesn't have
to be.
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from somebody else's work.
Yes.
That we can be our own source ofinformation.
I think I mentioned, yeah, and Ithink I mentioned on one of the
podcasts, the time that I wasout on Pinterest, same thing,
trying to get externalinspiration.
And I'm looking at these journalpages going, Oh my God, I love
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this.
And then I realized it was myjournal.
And, I mean, so right there, twothings.
Number one, get a clue whenyou're looking at something.
But number two is, I was my ownsource of inspiration that day.
But at that day, it had notoccurred to me.
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To go back again.
Part of it is I don't keep myjournals, so I don't have them
physically to go through forinspiration, but I can go to my
postings and look at them andget.
Inspiration from my previousinspiration.
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That's what I'm doing.
My previous inspiration willspark my current inspiration.
Jill (13:37):
Yes.
Okay.
Did everybody just heard thatbird squawking in the
background?
Is Mama Judy is recording thepodcast outside on her patio
where she does a lot of her artand have coffee and all that,
and that bird is just squawking
Mama Judy (13:50):
away?
That's one of those big blackravens that we have around here.
You might also hear a golfer goby.
Yeah.
Jill (13:58):
I heard some kids a minute
ago.
the other thing, speaking ofeven that bird squawking, as
you're sitting with your thingsand you were saying earlier to
like, look with your sight andfeel your fabrics but you do
spend time outside where you arecreating your art.
And that could be a type ofinspiration while it is
external, but while you'retrying to collect inspiration,
you might be like, Ooh, I'mgoing to paint a raven if you're
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in that mode of thinking aboutbeing creative.
Mama Judy (14:22):
Absolutely.
That's a good point.
I have one more point that's alittle more psychological, Jill,
before we, um, leave ouraudience.
And we've talked about this tooin various ways, but it's about
don't should yourself.
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For example, let's say thatyou're, you've got time and
especially people that don'thave as much time, for example,
as I do.
Now that I'm retired and you goto your art room and you think I
should get something done, butyou, you don't feel inspired.
You just can't quite, but youkeep saying, but I should by
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doing that to ourselves thatfirst of all kills our
inspiration.
I think inspiration comesthrough the most.
When we have a quiet voice inour head and telling yourself, I
should is not the voice that'squiet, but the most important
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thing I believe when we use theword should we take something
that is fun.
And we move it into theobligation column.
So when you do that, when you gofrom, I'm creating for fun
because I love it, to I should,I have to do something.
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You've just really kind ofstifled yourself.
Now, there are times when anartist really truly does need to
get a certain amount done.
Um, for if they have a deadlineor something.
But unless that comes up, youdon't have to do anything at any
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one time, most of the time.
So don't put yourself into that.
Allow yourself that internalenvironment.
Will free up that creative muse.
Use that is sitting in there,just waiting for you to be quiet
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enough that they can be
Jill (16:40):
heard.
Yes.
And, and when you said the termobligation, it's like you're
making it into a chore foryourself.
Yep.
And that's not what it is.
And then it made me think tointernally to think about, turn
that around when you're saying Ishould, I should, you could ask
your inner child.
We've talked about that innerchild that wants to come out and
play, ask them.
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What would you like to do?
And let your insides, come upwith that, like, let's just turn
this around.
What would you love to do forfun or to express yourself
today?
Mama Judy (17:09):
Yes.
And that internal voice is selfinspiration.
Because if we're good with ourinternal voice, we will create
the environment.
That allows the inspiration tocome out and talking to that
inner child or just sittingthere and just, like you said,
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use the word I get to create forthe next hour.
Yes, change that.
Even if you already know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And if you know what you want todo by saying it in that way,
we've created that internalenvironment that now we look
forward to it instead ofdreading it.
(17:56):
Yes.
Jill (17:56):
And we use this word
possibilities, exploring the
possibilities before insteadit's this thing where you just
want to shut it down.
Instead.
It's like, Oh, I get to do this.
What?
There's so many opportunitiesfor things for me to explore.
one last thing I think I'll say,and we've talked about this some
even in our using art as healingand that kind of thing, but
another internal thing is ifyou're journaling, you know,
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you're feeling sometimes whenI'm journaling all of a sudden,
I'll just feel like, Ooh, I wantto paint a flower now or paint
something or, or draw somethingof what you've just taken from
your inside as you're journalingit out.
And then using that asinspiration and just seeing what
comes and you might be stitchingor drawing or collaging or
whatever might come to you.
Yeah.
Yes,
Mama Judy (18:37):
absolutely.
I love that.
Jill (18:39):
well, good.
Well, and we hope for ourlisteners that you will take
something that was mentionedtoday.
If you're feeling that littledip in inspiration, don't let
that hold you back.
Definitely don't think youshould be creating though, but
just understanding, remember howlucky we are to get to do this.
And we hope one of these ideashas sparked something for you.
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And when we post this,especially in YouTube, you know,
you can leave a comment I wouldlove for people, if you have
other ideas, internal,inspirational ideas that could
be helpful to drop it into thecomments because then other
people might be able to see ifit's something different that
you've done and incorporate thatinto their own life as well.
Mama Judy (19:17):
Absolutely.
I love those because that'swhere I learned a lot is from
people's comments to something.
So.
Good idea.
We also want to remind them thatperiodically we're going to do
little videos on YouTube on tipsfrom you and I, uh, to keep
their eyes, ears open for that
Jill (19:39):
also.
Yes.
And Mama Judy, we have one upnow and by the time this, this
episode airs, there'll probablybe another one.
And it was.
A lot of people loved this videothat you did.
It's a how to, but you have togo look on her YouTube channel
to see what it is.
But she did a great how to, andI'm going to be doing a video
soon coming up that has to dowith something around traveling.
(20:00):
Well, Mama Judy, this was sofun.
And this is our, first timewhere we're now doing our
monthly podcast.
so Mama Judy and I, before wegot on, we're saying how much we
miss each other just on a weeklybasis.
We still are in constantcommunication with each other,
but this is fun to see your faceand we're so grateful for all of
you tuning in with us.
And we hope you found somethinghelpful today.
Mama Judy (20:20):
Absolutely.
We love our audience.
Jill (20:24):
All right.
Love you, Mama Judy.
Mama Judy (20:26):
Love you too, my
dear.
Talk to you later.
Bye.