The Mark & Jeanette Show: Ep 44 Unplugged: The Surprising Connections of Our Lives

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
One, two, three, four .
If it's just Francis Boyle,maybe he's not a doctor, but he
works there in the ag departmentin the state and I always
wanted to copy his book and healways said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'll print it Self-published.
He goes come by and I'll printyou one.
And we never connected and so Ijust had a wild hair.
A wild hair.
I got on Amazon, I looked it upand there was, like you know,

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Amazon has like resellers thatsell from there.
So I found a copy of his bookand I just got like a week ago
and it was like an autographedcopy and I was like dude, like
that's.
That's so weird because youcould actually you know him,
you've met him personally, solike my plan is to read his book
and then, once I read it, to belike, try to reach out to him

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and be like I got like five.
Maybe I'm up to six viewers nowWould you come on.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hey come in and talk about it.
Is it as big as that book?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, it's about as big as this book.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
What happened on the 23rd?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's right.
No, no, no, let's look atTuesday.
So what's Tuesday's date?
We're going to Martes, we'regoing to.
This is going to come out likea.
We're going to record this aday in advance.
So the 25th.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
The 25th.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You know, have you always worn glasses your whole
life?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I use them for like reading your whole life.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I've never worn glasses.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
And so, and then blue light have you heard of that?
Yeah, so I got the blue tint onthem, so I have a weird
relationship with glasses.
As a kid I always wantedglasses because I thought people
that wore glasses were just sosmart if you have an interview,
wear glasses yeah, right, areyou serious?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
if you have an interview, wear glasses.
I was like all right, it workedone time.
I wonder if color or anythinglike that.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
It worked out right.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, it worked out One time.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
My whole life never wore glasses and then I spent my
life in front of a computer forthe last 20, 25 years, and now
that I have glasses, it's like Ineed to wear glasses.
It's like a drag.
Now it's like dang it.
I can't read.
Where are my glasses at?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
When you were young, you wanted to look cool, and now
you're ready Talk about like aself-fulfilling prophecy, though
Like my whole life.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Like man, I want glasses, and then, now that I Ah
drag.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know you lose them sometimes you have to find
them Something more to carry.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
And you know there's something sexy about chicks that
wear glasses.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Oh dude, you see some of these like librarian nerdy
chicks and all that stuff.
It's like oh girl, girl,everybody loves a nerd.
Slash gamer, slash.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, Girls with glasses are definitely a
search, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
February 25th.
Oh wow, 1336.
That's like 700 years ago,almost exactly.
That's like 600 and like 90.
700 years ago, you round it upto 700.
That's nuts, okay.
So in 1336, the defenders ofPelliné chose death over
surrender.

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The fort was the site of thelast stand of the pagan general
duchy of Lithuania against acrusade by the Teutonic Knights
who were attempting to converthim and his people to
Catholicism.
When it became clear the fortwould fall, all 4,000 people
within committed mass suiciderather than being taken prisoner
.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
And turned into Catholics.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, Well, it seems like when you read history, it
seems like there's so much aboutreligion.
Oh, yeah, yeah, like it's crazy, and crazy too.
Like kill everybody, that's notour religion.
10,000 people, they're all gone.
Like how nuts is that?
So there it is.
700 years ago, that was inLithuania, okay, in 1848, the

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Paris Commune guaranteesworkers' rights.
All right, you know theshort-lived revolutionary
socialist government was thefirst in the modern history
formally recognized the rightsof laborers.
All right, 1848.
Yeah, because Teddy Rooseveltwas big on labor.
But that was like around theturn of the century.
Let's see here 1866, theCalavera skull is discovered.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Is that like in the US?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, the miners working in California, found the
skull in mine the skull in mineskull in mine, 130 feet below
the surface and passed it on toJohn Whitney, a professor of
geology at Harvard University.
Whitney declared the skull wasproof that human mastodons and
elephants had co-existed inCalifornia.
The skull was later shown to bea hoax Calavera skull.

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I have to look that up.
It's the boom man.
1901, us Steel is incorporated.
What US Steel, carnegie Steel,like you know the big fathers of
it's the boom man 1901, USSteel is incorporated.
What US Steel, carnegie Steel,the big fathers of industry of
the time.
Carnegie 1928, the firsttelevision broadcast license is
issued.
The Federal Commission ofCommunication granted a

(05:21):
broadcast license for televisionto Charles Jenkins.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Laboratories 19 year was that 1928.
Interesting, interesting.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Let's see here, okay, 1956.
Khrushchev.
So Khrushchev, he was thedictator of Russia when Stalin
died and he was the one that wasin office, or he was a dictator
of Russia during the CubanMissile Crisis, that's a big
boots.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, it's a big man, right, that's a big boots to
fill right there.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
In a speech to the 20th Congress of the Communist
Party the USSR, nikitaKhrushchev denounced a cult of
personality that Stalin hadcreated, as well as purges he
had carried out.
So Khrushchev survived thepurges of Stalin.
How I don't know.
So just a little history.
Khrushchev was a general inWorld War II.

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So when the Germans werefighting for Stalingrad and
Soviet soldiers were just beingthrown into the meat grinder
kind of like Ukraine now, but inStalingrad they weren't having
any luck so they put Khrushchevin charge.
So K it's installed.
They weren't having any luck,so they put Khrushchev in charge
.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So Khrushchev man, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Serious fighting.
Yeah man, world War II, worldWar II right, but then again,
you've ever heard about Kennedyin World War II?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think I heard he was a captain.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
No, no, no, JFK.
He was a captain of a PT boat,so a little PT boat that had
torpedoes, and so they wereordered to attack a Japanese
ship, and it was like three orfour PT boats or something like
that because they had torpedoeson them and they all went down.
So he saved the guys on hisship and he took them to an

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island and they stayed thereuntil they were rescued.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Real men right.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, real men.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Real men stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Back when, like the president, like look at
Eisenhower, you know D-Dayleader, He'd be the president
and all that.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Real men.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, here we go.
Modern history 1964.
Muhammad Ali shocks the world.
Cassius Clay at the time won about against Sonny Liston with a
technical knockout in theseventh round.
Very nice.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Wow, I have the El Paso gloves.
Oh look at that my brotherfought and I was like, oh,
that's a cool shirt, I'm goingto buy it.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Goalie gloves.
That's legit man.
Let's see.
1996, Fernand Marcos flees thePhilippines Okay.
1991, the Warsaw Pact isdissolved.
Okay, the Warsaw Pact, you knowwhat that is.
I've heard about it, but youknow how NATO, all the Western
nations, that we have analliance.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
United Nations.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, no, no, nato is not the United Nations, it's
just a military alliance of theWestern nations.
Okay, in Australia it's like amilitary alliance.
It's called the North AtlanticTreaty Organization and all the
major ones like England, us,france, germany, and then now
Israel, now Israel.
I don't think Israel is a part.
Are they?
I don't know.
I'd have to look that up.
But then on top, oh shoot, Ithought it was the United

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Nations.
Okay, I thought I stoppedrecording for a second.
I was like no, the menu camedown.
No, no.
So you have the United Nations,which is for, like, all the
nations of the world, hopefullyto prevent war, yeah right.
But then you have an alliancecalled NATO.
Well then, the Soviet Unionwanted to counterbalance NATO,
because they were like NATO isso.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
They've always been the counterpart Right.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
So what they did is they made an alliance with all
the communist countries thatthey influenced.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, china.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
No, no, no, no.
This was like in Europe, likeRomania, Yugoslavia, I don't
know if Czechoslovakia, a lot ofthose eastern nations right
through there, eastern Europeannations, eastern Germany, and
they were all part of the WarsawPact to kind of like counter
NATO and they were always facedoff and all that.
So they were dissolved and yeah, like when they followed the

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Soviet Union and all that crazyit's crazy, man.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's crazy what's going on.
Do we know who killed JFK?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
yet so, dude, that's what I want to know.
Okay, what did you hear aboutJFK?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
because I've been talking about this already yeah,
yeah, yeah, because, like, theybusted out the files and
there's three guys that killedJFK.
Now, really, you heard threeguys.
Yeah, well, that's what they'resaying.
I don't know what to believeanymore.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
So if you listen to, okay.
So if you listen to theUnsolved Mysteries and all that,
let's just jump into it.
If you listen to doesn't solvemysteries and you listen to
everything, everybody swearsthere was another shooter.
But then the the, the federalinvestigation and all that stuff
and the warren commission, yeah, said no, there was only one
shooter.
They've you know the magicbullet they found.

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They found the bullet inperfect condition on his gurney.
Yeah, um, the way everything washandled that people even
thought the body was switchedout on the airplane that's true,
so yeah so, so, and then the somuch of crazy shit man do you
know there's a pruder film is no, tell me about it.
So there's, and I'm gonnabutcher this, so if anybody
knows history better than me,then I'm sorry.

(10:16):
But so there was a guy um lastname's the pruder, the pruder,
and he had like one of those old, like 40 millimeter cameras and
he was watching the.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
He was watching the president go by and all that
stuff, oh shit Side storiesthere yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
So it was like a film nobody knew existed and so
Kennedy gets shot.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, wow, and they interviewedpeople.
People turned up and died.
They interviewed hobos, likeeverybody, and a lot of people
turned up died.
They interviewed hobos Likeeverybody, everybody, and like a
lot of people turned up, youknow.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Have you been to a location?
No, I never have.
I never have I've gone there.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I've been to Dallas.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I've never been to that location.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, yeah, dallas, fort Worth clean.
I've been all through there butI haven't been to like
especially now everybody haslike this theory about um oswald
.
He was being like weird.
They they're like there's noway he could have done it.
There's no way, like somepeople said he came running out.
Some people said he didn't comerunning out, like it was just a

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lot of weird stuff about thatand then the warren commission,
which was headed by and I, andI've got to pull this name up
because this is significant.
So, and again, there's a lot ofpeople smarter than me.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
We're learning here, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, there's a lot of people smarter than me that
if they listen to this and goingto space.
That's right.
Well, I mean, hey, that allstarted with Kennedy, right?
Who headed the WarrenCommission?
I try to keep a laptop here,but sometimes I just think it's
easier just to do it, like do iton your cell phone.
Okay, Known officially as thePresident's Commission on the

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Assassination of PresidentKennedy, the Warren Commission
was led by Chief Justice EarlWarren and included six
additional members from bothRepublican and Democratic
parties.
There's one primary person.
There's one primary person.
There's one primary person onhere Alan Dulles.

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Alan Dulles was on thecommission.
There's an airport name afterhim.
I don't know if it's Dulles AirForce Base or just Dulles
Airport or something.
He's a big name, I think he was,I don't know.
See, sometimes.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I come in ready.
I want to learn too.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Sometimes I come in ready, sometimes I don't.
So Alan Dulles.
He was the head of either theFBI or the CIA.
What was he famous for?
Okay, he was the longestserving director of the CIA.
Okay was he famous for?
Okay, he was the longestserving director of the CIA.
Okay, so Kennedy, who's one ofthe groups of people that was

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alleged to have killed Kennedy?
The vice president, I knowright, who's one of the groups?
I mean the mob, the Cubans, whoelse?
The CIA, the CIA, yeah you'reright.
So Alan Dulles was the longestserving director of the CIA.
Yeah, Kennedy fired him.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh shit, Damn.
I wish I had this, I know.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I mean like yeah, we need like a sound effect.
So if Alan Dull fired him, it'sweird that they put him on the
commission to investigate hisassassination.
Now, you can definitely look atit from the perspective of,
like Alan Dulles was awell-connected guy, probably
knows a lot of investigators, doyou know what I mean?

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He's also probably the perfectperson.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
He probably created the CIA in some way, right.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Or helped build it.
That's probably the heyday ofthe CIA If he's the longest
service one.
He was there when all the crazystuff went on right, like the
war ends and the Cold War startsand like you know what I mean,
like all the assassinations,coups and everything.
Like he probably knows aboutall that.
So there's always that weirdconnection with that.

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Okay, so modern day Trump comesin and Back to the future.
Matter of fact, I was stickingall these tiles up and I had
YouTube on and I was watchingTrump sign the executive orders
live on his first day, and hesigned the one about Martin
Luther King, bobby Kennedy andJFK.
And about a week or two lateror maybe not even a week, maybe

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three weeks, four weeks,something this lady the lady
that's I don't know what hername is.
I've been listening to her.
She's a part of the commissionthat's releasing all this
paperwork and all this stuff onthe Trump team, and she says,
she also has the Epstein files.
And they're going to release theEpstein.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
But okay, let's stick with JFK I don't think they're
going to scratch off some namesbefore they do that.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
So that's the thing right.
So the first thing that happensis Trump says he's going to
release the JFK files and thenthe FBI says oh, by the way, we
found another 2,000, 2,500 pagesrelegated to the JFK
assassination Just out of theblue.
Hey, look what I found here.

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And so she came out on a pressconference and she says it
appears that there's evidencefor two shooters.
So that's like the biggestthing and if you're like a JFK
nut which I think people from mygeneration, like a lot of
people, a lot of older peoplereally like, were really into it

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he was a good president.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
He was willing to take chances, right, yeah, you
know he was.
He was about the people.
He was definitely a man of thepeople.
Civil rights, Cuba facing downKhrushchev and the Russians,
Cuba facing down Khrushchev andthe Russians, and so there's a
lot of reasons for hisassassination.
So one of the reasons is therewas a story of him and

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Khrushchev.
They wanted to end the Cold War.
Why are we going to do this?
And they're like did the CIAkill him Because he didn't want
to back the Bay of Pigs,overthrow Castro in Cuba?
And he wanted to end the ColdWar?
Because why should we be at thebrink of war, especially after
this crazy massive war, WorldWar II where like hundreds of

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millions of people died, Likeit's no joke.
Like 90 million of them were inRussia alone, right?
So why are we facing missilesat each other?
And he was also a big proponentof the space race, so that's
like the biggest thing.
Yeah, you know.
And then you just said what didyou just say a second ago?
Epstein files or something elseso they're supposed to be

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releasing the Epstein files orthe Epstein book, like the book
I guess he had like a guest book.
Not like a guest book, not likea little black book like Booty
Call and again, I'm not wellversed on this, me, neither man.
But, so people that flew toEpstein's Island, they took

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private planes there in and outand there was like a some sort
of guest book or a ledger of allthe guests that went to his
island.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Sign here, please.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Sign here.
It's like, oh, hey, you know, Imean, if I had people like
dignitaries coming to my houseevery week, I'd be like, hey,
dude, can you like sign off onthis that you were here?
Sweet, p Diddy was here.
Sweet, sign off.
Go to your room.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Stuff like that, right.
So when everything happenedwith Epstein, do you remember
when that happened?
It went fast.
It's like suddenly this cameout, Suddenly.
They were saying all this isgoing on.
Then they arrested him and thensuddenly he turned up dead and
then suddenly all of hispaperwork and his books and
everything was all sealed up.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Powerful people moving, they move fast.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Oh yeah, well, one of them and what brought about
this is the prince I don'tbelieve it was the English
prince, I think it was like theDenmark, the Danish prince.
One of them, one of thesecharacters that's like really
well known.
He's a prince, you know, fromthe royal family of one of the
countries.
What are those shenanigansabout?

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There's a picture of him with agirl that said she had been
taken there, she had been rapedand she had been groomed for sex
and all that.
And there's a picture of himwith his arm around her when she
was like 14 or 15.
And she's there.
So the armor around her, whenshe was like 14 or 15, and she's
there.
So the evidence is there.
There was a picture, and so youcouldn't get around it, but

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then that's when everything elsecame out, that you know what's
her name Grishel.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I want to say something like I know exactly,
it's that French lady.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, something like that.
Let me think here, epstein,she's still in jail man so
whatever happens right now?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
she's still in jail.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
You know, but with the way that the tides are
changing, ghislaine MaxwellSince 20 years in prison for
conspiring with Epstein, oh, wow, okay, ghislaine Noelle.
Marion Maxwell is a former, isa British former socialite and
convicted sex offender.

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She was found guilty of childsex trafficking and other
offenses.
That's her.
She had a solar silence.
She probably sold her silence,like you know what?
He turned up dead in that onemoment, in that one corner.
There's no cameras or guards.
We're changing shifts, yeah,and they got to him there.

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Yeah, you know, like, that'slike.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Something's up.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Like okay.
So President Trump is in office.
He's got four years.
He's already trying to go intoit like crazy, with the federal
government trying to figure outwhere the money's going and all
this stuff releasing secretfiles.
Let's see if he has enough timeand enough people to open that
can of worms.
Because, you know, if theyinvestigate that and somebody
let that happen like if I wasthe warden of that jail

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somebody's got to get fired,somebody's got to go to jail.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Somebody's got to go to jail, for sure, but like a
lot of money being thrown around.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
A lot of money being thrown around.
That was a big question.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
How did this guy get his money?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
because he he didn't have like any big businesses
right, he wasn't like uh, he waslike uh, money moves.
You know, yeah, the middleperson he was involved was like
some investors and all thatstuff, but he wasn't like an
investor himself.
But the question like, wheredid this guy get all this money
from?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
right.
One big thing is uh, you know,prince, uh, the prince guy
that's associated with him yeah,I'm england, yeah, so that guy
he's like in his heyday he's, uh, he's a prince and he gets all
the girls right yeah it's allthe girls there, um, but like
he's under his brother, which isprince, uh, king charles, and
then he's under, so he's nevergonna be, is it prince?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
edward.
Yeah, yeah, he's never going tobe a king, is it, prince Edward
?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, yeah, he's under his brother, so like he's
never going to be a king.
And then, on top of that, theking's son is next in line.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
You're right, it's Prince Edward.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yes, but this guy's like good looking when he's
young and he's a prince, so hegets all the girls you know all
the stuff and like he gets likea two million dollar salary or
something like that and that.
And that's not enough for him tolike um to uh for his lifestyle
, because he's a party guy, he'salways been a party guy enter
jeffrey epstein, you know.

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Because, like, he doesn't getenough money from his family and
he has a uh, a lifestyle tomaintain, you know, he only gets
two million dollars a year orsomething like that.
He's like that's not enough tobuy all this cocaine for the
girls you know.
So enter Jeffrey.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well, okay.
So if you're a playboy, youknow, in your younger years
you're fairly good looking.
But you're like you're thenobility of a country, so you're
expected to carry yourself acertain way.
But you knew that your title,and then you have the money that
you can leverage that to getladies, because that's what it's

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about, right?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Some guys it's just not enough to be wealthy, to be
like this person right Beyond me.
Yeah, it's not enough to bethat.
They're like okay, I'm going tohave all the women I can have,
I can get to right.
So you meet a guy that couldhook you up with any woman you
want, and then that guy turnsout to be somebody like jeffrey
epstein.
They become friends, probablystarts moving money to investing

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money or whatever, yeah,everything's.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
You know business deals, you know, yeah, he's a
royalty.
So those connections are neededfor the English, for the
England connection, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Let's see Andrew.
Okay, so right here it saysPrince Andrew, duke of York, was
interviewed by Emily Matlissabout his relationship with
Jeffrey Epstein, the Americanfinancier and convicted sex
offender.
Andrew's response in theinterview received negative
reactions from both media andpublic in May 2012.
It was announced that he wouldindefinitely withdraw from his

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public roles.
So yeah, so all this tarnishedhis image.
He's withdrawing from publicanything in England.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Wow, it's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
But then, like I say, there's this black book slash
guest book.
And the question is, like I say, there's this black book slash
guest book, yeah, and thequestion is, who all went there?
How often did they go there?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And what happened there and what happened there.
There's some pictures out there.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Maybe there's like was it like a kind of like a P
Diddy thing?
Maybe he had like cameras inall the rooms?
Maybe there's like videoevidence.
Maybe there's vivid videoevidence.
Maybe there's vivid videoevidence that's been hidden away
.
But destroyed oh yeah, like if.
If you were a big investigatorlike the cia, fbi and you knew
the people there, that'dprobably be the first thing you

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did up.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
So I left it in the sun and it's all gone, my bad
yeah, sorry it's like thesevideos, but uh um, you know
what's funny about all that?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Do you know who Alex Jones is?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Oh yeah, man, that guy's amazing.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, okay, right.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
So Alex, he's like a hidden genius or something.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
So Alex Jones, he's like the kind of guy I can hear
the guests all laughing away.
I know right.
So Alex Jones, he was bigduring the bomb era.
He always was kind of big, buthe was like he's been.
He's been big right in fullwars and um.
Alex jones always came out withthese weird connections that
people would be like that's justcrazy.

(24:36):
Alex jones is just being like aconspiracy.
But but now he's smart a lot ofa lot of the things that he had
talked about happened.
I don't know what his hitpercentage was, like you know
like.
Was he like 50% right?
75% right, 40%?
Let's say 75.
Let's say 50.
Let's just say 50.
That's still 50%, right?

(24:59):
That's still better odds than alot of other things.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
That's better odds than the lottery.
That's better odds than a lotof other things.
Yes, sir, that's better odds inthe lottery.
That's better odds and this guyhas good odds.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
His, uh, his research style is uh, is uh, I think uh,
and I and I think, uh, the wayhe presented his information.
He like he's always over thetop.
He's like, oh my god, they'regonna come for a gun and they
want you.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's why they brush him off, because he goes that
way.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
But but I think he does that intentionally.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I think it's part of like the dramatics, the
theatrics right, okay, okay, Ithink, because he's popular, so
yeah, I like to hear when hetalks to Joe Rogan, because
sometimes he's like really chill.
Joe Rogan and me are bestfriends.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, no, he's a cool guy, but during the Obama
administration, because that'skind of when I started listening
to all this stuff, fringy, andyou have to think about that.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's like 15 years ago, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
And so that's when I kind of went through a phase
where I listened to all that andI remember him talking about
these sex gate scandals.
Oh yeah, there were two of them.
One of them was Pizzagate yeah,Pizzagate.
And there was another one, andI don't remember what it was.
It was like a sex island.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Pizzagate was one of the big ones.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
That's kind of like related to Hillary or the
Clintons, and so he always saidthat there was a sex island.
All the people would go andthey'd have sex.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
And again it missed.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
But here we are, 20 years later, and it turned out
to be true yeah, so likepixagate is p diddy in a way
right kind of, it's probablylike next level p diddy.
So so like, uh, p diddy waslike hollywoodish you had all
your boys, you have all yourparties and you have like your,
your crew and your entourage andthe girls.
The girls are in la gettingcrazy and all that.
So that's like one level.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
You want that.
You got to do this.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
It's like, if you put it in level of money, you have,
like us, middle class people.
Then you have other people thatare richer.
Then you have people that aremega richer, and the mega richer
is probably like your Hollywood.
Your musicians rap all thatLike Taylor Swift and all them.
They miss money.
Rap all that Like Taylor Swiftand all them.
They make money.
The producers and all that andthen you have probably a whole

(27:10):
other level of rich.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
That own the companies that these artists are
under.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Something like that, right, but I'm thinking like a
really high level.
Oh shit, like Prince Andrew,the family owns england, yeah,
yeah, so like there's a, there'slike a whole different level of
rich that we probably couldn'teven fathom.
And so so p did.
He's doing his thing in la, andthen you have the ultra rich.

(27:38):
That kind of get a little crazy.
And now they're with epstein,yeah, so it seems like everybody
has their different levelstheir different levels of clubs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah to control.
Or to have a good time.
It's like, I think, there'salways people that want to.

(27:59):
Everybody wants to be the bigman on the block.
Right, right, everybody wantsto be the big man on the block.
And if you're like a nobodylike me, you want to be the big
man on the block.
Right, right, everybody wantsto be the big man on the block.
And if you're like a nobodylike me, you want to be the big
man.
And your neighbor comes over toyou hey, do you have a pair of
pliers I can borrow?
Yes, I do.
Oh, you need something fixed.
I'm going to go fix it for you.
I'm the big man on the block,yeah, regional level, okay.

(28:25):
Community, yeah.
And then you have the next bigperson, like the big, the big
person in music, which wastotally p diddy.
P diddy was the big person inmusic, like the bieber, helped
the bieber and that and probablydid a lot of other stuff there
too, but but he, he like j-loand he was the big man in music
and then everybody went throughhim in a way yeah, and so you
have like all these differentbig people in their sex.

(28:46):
You know you have like BillGates.
He's the big man in technology,yeah, so anyway.
So I think you have some peoplethat they get to that level of
being the big man and they kindof want the benefits that come
with it.
Yeah, you know like dude, Imake tons of money, I got street
cred.
I want the women too and theysay they start going to like

(29:08):
crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I don't know, it could be wrong, but the, the,
the people that don't want thepower.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Those are the ones that are fit to to handle the
power, because these people thatwant the power yeah, yeah the
power yeah, you know, it's likethey think of like, uh, gangas
khan, and gangas khan was likethousands of concubines and all
of his wives and they're like,if a guy 500 years ago could do
that, why can I?
You know, I mean, I don't know,I I could totally be wrong and

(29:36):
off base about that, but it'skind of weird to think about
though.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
yeah, yeah, what what people strive to.
You know what people do, whatmotivates you, what people do
yeah, what people do when theyhave the power.
You know what people do, whatmotivates you, what people do
yeah, what people do when theyhave the power you know, that's
what.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Maybe that's what it is, what people do when they
have the power.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
So if money corrupts and you have all the money in
the world.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Well they say money.
Money just brings out yourcharacter.
You know so, like even you,when you were like, when you
didn't have any money, you werestill a piece of shit.
But now you're with money andyou're a bigger piece of shit.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
That's a really uh straightforward way of putting
it.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
It sounds pretty on point yeah, I mean, it amplifies
your personality pretty muchyeah, I mean yeah yeah, because
like, money is not the answer,you know.
So, like whatever, the money isnot the goal.
That's what somebody told methat LinkedIn.
I was like that's prettypowerful.
Money is not the goal.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
And so what did your friend say?
When he said money is not thegoal, what did he say was no,
he's just, that's it.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Money is not the goal .
Whatever the goal is, it's yourpurpose, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's the goal, your purpose.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
That is super curious .

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So money is not the goal.
So everybody has a differentpurpose in life.
Me and you don't have the samepurpose, right, the goal is the
purpose.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I think you have a bigger purpose than I do.
We just haven't figured it outyet.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
No, there's purposes for everybody.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Man, yeah, but you know what's funny is there's
different purposes for everybody, and I think you have different
purposes at different times inyour life too.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, yeah, man.
The purpose changes, man, andsometimes you're not ready to do
it.
You have to go through someturmoil, trials and tribulations
.
Yeah, before you're prepared todo your purpose, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh yeah, absolutely, 100%, 100%.
So all this is going on stuffcoming up from the Trump
campaign.
I hope it doesn't stop.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I hope we get some answers.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I hope they get answers.
I hope they go down the rightpath and things work out the way
people want it to.
Do you know what I mean.
I think it's overdue, so I'vegot my fingers crossed and I'm
always hopeful for the best.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I mean there's always going to be bad and good people
, so let's just go with the flowyou know and do good.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Do good, that's it, bottom line.
Do good, so there's that, that.
Okay, so then, moving rightalong then, um, okay, so so
people.
So I don't even know how to saythis, right.
Um, so, so, you and me, we talkabout all the the things that
would be considered french fr.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Fringy yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
And let's be honest, I like fringy stuff because it's
fun.
I love talking about the crazy.
You know, talking Palsk is cool, Talking business is fun and
all that.
But when you talk about fringystuff it's like yeah, things get
interesting, it getsinteresting.
So one thing I did and you knowabout this and I think a small
group of people know about thisI put cameras on my roof, not

(32:48):
because I'm a peeping Tom or I'ma perv.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Because we want to talk to the aliens.
That's right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
So I put some new 4K cameras on my roof, angled up,
and I've got a pretty good fieldof cover, about 180 degrees,
right about now, of sky coverage.
And I put it.
I mounted a tripod on the pitchof the roof.
I had to climb up the roof, geton the pitch, strap it down,
try to stabilize it and then,you know, raise the tripod, so

(33:16):
that way I had a clear line ofsight above all the roofs and so
that way we could try to skythe sky, and I never.
Okay, how do I say this?
I don't really claim to say Isee UFOs, although my buddy,
mark Monger, that was on herethe other day, he was like well,
if you don't know what it is,it's a UFO, it's unidentified.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I was like, okay, fair enough, it's definitional.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Right.
Yeah, I'm not saying I saw analien spacecraft with beans in
it, but I've.
I've been fortunate enough thatI've seen stuff in the sky that
it's beyond my intelligencelevel yeah my expertise it
really is, and I'm not going toclaim it's anything more than
that, because I I don't know,but I've seen some interesting

(34:01):
crap I've seen some lights too,you know I've seen some.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
What the hell was that?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
So over the course of the last 20 years especially,
there was a point in my lifewhere I was working for a
company I used to drive all overthe state, all over the whole
state, and people don't realizethe state of New Mexico is a big
state, very remote.
When you're out there, you areout there.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Alone.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
And you see tons of lights in the sky.
Some of them can be explainableHelicopters, whatever Airplanes
and some of them are likequestionable.
There's like legit questionablethings I've seen out there, but
again, I'm not going to saythat I saw an extraterrestrial

(34:47):
craft or something, cause Idon't know what it is, but I've
seen stuff that would make youlike scratch your head and be
like what the hell is that youknow?
So I got this crazy idea lastyear and I had some extra
security cameras and I wasexcited about these security
cameras.
The first time I extra securitycameras and I was excited about
these security cameras.
The first time I boughtsecurity cameras, my first ones

(35:09):
were the ones that you pluggedin, you connected to the Wi-Fi
and I was like you have to mountthem and I'm like oh, hell yeah
, I've got my security.
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
It's the Scarface man .
It's the Scarface meme.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, right, yeah, you need people like me.
You need people.
So I was excited about that.
And then I got these wirelessrechargeable cameras and they
were let's see, they weren't the.
Maybe they were like the 1085pixels.
They're the 1085 videoresolution, and I know the

(35:39):
original Game changers.
So what's below the 1085?
That's the 2K.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I wish I knew, but I know 2K is like around there.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I can tell you in a second.
So you have differentresolutions.
And again, there's people thatknow this better than me,
because I'm not as big of a nerdas I would like to say.
I am Okay, let me see here.
Let me see.
If I pull up the camera, it'llgive me the option for the
different resolution settings.

(36:11):
So, okay, so 2K.
So my original small cameraswere 2K.
Then my first wireless oneswere the 1080p or maybe the 720.
1080 or 720, or maybe it's amix of them, but I thought I was
.
I thought I was cool with them.
I was like dude.
Like when people say, like I'mgonna get cameras, I'll get a

(36:31):
doorbell camera.
Like dude, I got my 1080wireless and I mounted it.
You don't even know where it'sat.
When you show up in my house Ialready see you, and so I had
like, yeah, like I already knowI.
I thought I was a real techie.
So then I had like two extraones because I had ordered a box
of them off of eBay.
And that's when I got thisweird idea.

(36:53):
I was like, oh, maybe it wasfrom TikTok, I don't know.
I watched a guy that he TikTok.
No, no, I watched that Jamesguy.
He comments on people who putsvideos on TikTok.
He does like a commentary onTikTok videos and he has people
that watch this guy with theircameras.
I was like, oh, that's kind ofcool.
I want to do that.

(37:13):
That's like stupid cool.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
That's what the Mayans used to do.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
They would just sit there right, they would watch.
And again, I have crazy luckwatching this guy myself because
I just sent you a video of theSpaceX being launched yesterday.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
It was amazing man.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
And you know how many times I've seen SpaceX launch
from here?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I don't know how many Like half a dozen times.
Really.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
It's just like you know what.
So the first time I saw SpaceXlaunch, I thought it was like
dude, we're being freakinginvaded Because you see
something like the big glow inthe sky.
You're like what the hell isthat?
I was like oh my God, this iswhat they're talking about.
I'm going to go get the gunsand go get water.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Start recording with the phone.
You know everybody startsrecording with their and and
start recording with the phone.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
You know, everybody starts recording with their.
And I remember I pulled overand I remember at that time this
is probably like five years agoa number of people pulled over
to where I pulled over at andthey're all kind of watching.
We're all there with our cellphones and I got on Twitter and
that's why I realized, oh,SpaceX launched from California.
Well, I was facing west, itmade sense and all that.
So ever since then, I've seenSpaceX launches all the time

(38:26):
Because they launch fromSouthern California, from
Edwards Air Force Base.
That's one of the places theylaunch from.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
It's nearby.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, I mean, and you figure, like heavy lift rocket
they launch at night becauseit's not as hot, so I just get
lucky with it.
And that's why I was like youknow what I got to like put my
cameras on my roof, I've got toget like like I'm missing out on
stuff and uh, and I've showedyou I've seen like cool stuff in
the sky.
My first recording of anythingwas watching, like a, the glow

(38:53):
of a transformer going out yeah,yeah, I saw that.
Yeah, that was cool a matter offact, you and me, we saw a green
light in the sky it must havebeen another transformer going
out and and I, uh, I wish Iwould have had a camera facing
in that direction.
So, uh, so yeah, I've got allthese cameras now, um, looking
at the sky, and I've gottenstuff, Uh, um, I've gotten stuff

(39:14):
like uh, um, meteoritesexploding in the atmosphere.
I was showing my buddy of minea light that you see in the sky
and I was like, look at thislight, Because it's like two
months ago.
And he's like what's that?
And he goes, oh, is that ameteorite?
I said no, no, no, watch it.
And he's watched it and it'slike a light just there.
No, no, and then it just startsgoing up, slowly, it starts

(39:37):
going up.
He goes that's not a meteorite,that's going up.
I go exactly like, exactly.
It's not a meteorite, dude,it's going up and he goes.
And he goes, my buddy, he goesthat's interesting.
He goes, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I think I saw one that was like that too, and it
was right before these dronescame out.
I saw it and then all that shitcame out.
I was like oh.
I saw a drone.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I still think there's more to the drone thing than we
know.
Oh yeah, so okay, I've got liketwo, three drones.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
And they're about as big as I don't know, like a
plate, a big plate, and with mydrone I can go like two blocks
over, I don't know how many feetthat is.
They can go stupid high.
And so, matter of fact, lastnight, or two weeks ago, I was
flying it at night, yeah,because I was just getting like

(40:30):
a shot of the city at night,like doing like a panoramic view
, and I started thinking aboutthe East Coast with all the like
, New Jersey, all those drones,when my drone, my drone, was
like right above me but likesuper high yeah you couldn't
even see it anymore night.
And it has the light.

(40:50):
The lights don't turn off.
Yeah, you couldn't see itanymore, and so I was like
thinking about.
I was like so if you're seeingdrones and big lights over New
Jersey, how big are these thingsthat are flying over Jersey
then?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Right they say they're as big as SUVs man.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
But that's a lot of power, though you have to have a
big battery.
You have to stay up in the skythat long.
Who knows how far they flew, sothe more I thought about it and
they go back into the oceanmaybe, maybe I'm like I don't
know the ocean people.
People were talking about that,right the ocean is big and uh,
um, and, uh, um, yeah.

(41:33):
So that just got me.
Once I saw my own drone goingto the sky.
It got me thinking about that.
I was like what the hell wasout there then, because my drone
it's one of those DVI.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I've heard of those.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
DJI, which are considered really good.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think commercially they're a good
business to use those.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Great cameras and everything, but, like I say, you
couldn't see it.
Nah, man.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
There's drones that we don't see.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
So if people are seeing these big old things in
New Jersey, like I say, how bigare they?
And if you, your car, if youwanted to get your car off the
ground and fly it around in theair above us, how big of a motor
does it have to have on it tolift it up the batteries, to run
the engines on it?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Like, just put it into context, Like light
material to lift it up.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Like what would it take to get your car off the
ground if you wanted to thinkabout that A lot.
It's not like you and me couldstand there and pick it up.
It's too heavy, no man it'stons.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Nah, man it's tons.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So those big drones that sizearen't going to be light.
Nope, so you kind of thinkabout that.
It's like what the hell?
Like it's so.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I don't think we're ever going to know everything,
man, like everything, has somemystery to it.
Everything, yeah, yeah, even ifwe know a lot, we still don't
know a lot.
You know, I just kicked the.
I just kicked my controller forthe mics or the headphones.

(43:10):
Yeah, no, you're right, If weknow a lot, we still don't know
everything.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
So we're not going to know everything.
Yeah, how do you?
I don't know?
Like maybe that's why peoplehave to be specialized.
You know, like they say there'speople that specialize in
certain things likecompartmentalization.
You have to specialize in thisand be the expert in this, so
that way, when you meet theperson that's an expert in this
part of this stuff over here,you guys can share knowledge,

(43:35):
because there's just too much ofthose two different fields for
you both to know.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
You know what I mean yeah, so, like you both share
the, you know what I mean yeah,yeah, yeah, so you both share
the knowledge.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
But because your field, like, say you're a space
engineer, you're theprofessional space engineer and
say I'm like I don't know, andeven within space engineering
Okay.
So let's break apart spaceengineering.
Say I'm an expert at justpropulsion.
Say I'm an expert in justpropulsion.
Say I'm just an expert inpropulsion right.

(44:04):
And say you're like amechanical engineer that you
specialize in engines Okay,aviation and engines Right.
So you're the expert in yourarea, I'm the expert in my area
and we have to be the best atwhat we do to come together to
put a rocket in space.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Because to make the rocket rocket, one person to
know everything about a rocketis too much to know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'stoo much.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, you need it you need a team, and especially
when you think about like allthe craziness you see going on
all around us oh, yeah, you needa team.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, so I don't know .
So you need the guy thathandles the engines, that's a
team.
You need a guy that handles theairplanes, that's another team
yeah, like the electronics youneed a lot of money.
The computer enter Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I know, enter Elon Musk, jeez, okay, so let me.
Let me come back to this, then,something that we've on and off
talked about.
What do you think is going onwith all these airplanes?

Speaker 2 (44:59):
The ones that are crashing.
Yeah, I think that there's alot of things that are not being
said, like what do you?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
mean Like okay, first of all, let me okay First of
all the pilots.
You know these pilots.
So somebody, somebody.
I heard a statistic on the newsthis weekend.
Yeah, they said uh um the um,president trump was being blamed
for having more airplanerelated incidents in his first

(45:33):
month of office yes, true, yeah,and there was like a couple at
the end of biden no, no, youwant to hear the statistics.
So in his first month of office,president Trump, there's been
like 35 incidents with airplanes.
What, okay, you know inPresident Biden's first month of
office how many incidents withairplanes there were, how many?
Somewhere around 50.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
What yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
And it's not saying that it's Trump's fault, it's
Biden's fault.
It's just saying, like has ithappened a lot more than we
think.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
What happens when these airplanes like in bulk.
You know, yeah, I understand ifit's like here and there, but
that's less sketchy, but in bulk.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Okay, but Biden's first month it was like 50, and
now we're talking about Trumpand there's 30 in Trump's.
30 is still not a small numberin terms of planes, right Like,
and these are big ass planes,man.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
These are like Boeing , yeah passenger planes.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
How does a plane landing in Toronto End up upside
down on the landing strip?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
And then there's videos of people recording from
the inside and stuff which iscrazy man.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Well, I think that's a given because of this cell
phone technology.
Now, like 20 years ago, I don'tknow how many phones had
cameras on them, and even thecameras they had, were they very
good?
They're like all grainy, youknow.
You try to zoom in on it it'dbe all pixelated.
A lot of school fights in thosegrainy cameras?
I don't know no, do you, do youremember this?
The, the were they.

(47:11):
It was like an internet thingbum fights oh yeah, bum fights
oh, that's where kimbo gotfamous.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, dude like fights and there's a crazy bum
that didn't have any teeth.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I remember the first time I saw that when I was in
college.
I was like what, and they paythese and these people are
making money.
They're like yeah, I was likethat's nuts anyway, but yeah,
bum fights but I mean cell phonetechnology now is like you
don't need like, okay, youremember, like digital cameras?
Yeah, like Like, okay, do youremember like digital cameras?
Yeah, Like we all had digitalcameras and you put a memory
card in it.

(47:42):
Who has a digital cameraanymore, Like the little
Panasonic one that you turn iton and has a little memory card?
You know, I'm not talking aboutthe really nice ones where you
put lenses on it, but for aminute there everybody had like
a little digital camera.
Who has digital cameras anymore?
Do you have one?
No, we all have phones, you allhave phones and you can all

(48:03):
upload the pictures, you cansend them to Walgreens and print
them out and everything.
So like cell phones have killedlike I'm sure it's killed a
certain part of the cameraindustry, but because of it,
because it's on a phone,everybody has a great camera now
and the cameras just get betterand better.
On a phone, everybody has agreat camera now and the cameras
just get better and better.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Dude, my brother's Android camera is so good he
could see stars with it.
It's almost like your roofcameras.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
You know, what's funny is when I was, I got a
flip phone I don't remember itwas like a Samsung or something
and you know flip phones, theyflipped open and closed like
that.
Right here on the hinge was acamera that you could turn to
face you and then you turn it toface out again and I remember

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being like that's the coolestthing ever I was like hey, look
guys I can turn my camera and Ican face myself.
Can your phone do that?
Like thinking like bam, hey,look guys I could turn this
thing around.
Can your phone?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
do that, thinking like bam, hey, look guys, I
could turn this thing around.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I think my friend had that one, to be honest, I think
my friend had that one, but nowyou think about it that's not
even a big deal anymore.
But yeah, I think as cell phonetechnology gets even better,
you're going to have more andmore videos come out, like look
at the Afghanistan war andPersian Gulf War.
How much video Ukraine?

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How much video people like comeout of the war because people
have cameras now GoPros, likeit's just everywhere you know.
So, anyways, I don't know.
I do have a theory about thewhole.
Well, I don't have a theory,but I have an idea about the
plane things.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
And I heard about this, but I only heard about it
once, but it kind of stuck in mymind.
I kind of think there is a coldwar going on between the United
States and China.
China's trying to hackeverything over here.
Our people are trying toprevent them from hacking.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Social media stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
So if hacking technology is so good now and
they can get into almostanything, look at like Verizon.
You know the Verizon network,like cell phone companies, did
you know there was a massiveChinese hack on them like a
month or two ago?
I've heard about that.
And last I heard they stillhadn't fully been able to fix it

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Because they got intoeverything in the cell phone
networks.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Damn, so it's still hacked.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
And it's like technically it's still hacked.
And it's still it's liketechnically it's still hacked.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
As far as I know, I haven't heard anything else
about it Because, like you know,the news cycle just goes so
fast.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Nowadays right.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
So, like here's a thought If you can hack
everything, even like wirelessly, like through, you know you
don't have to be plugged inanything.
How hard would it be forsomebody to hack into an
airplane?

Speaker 2 (51:05):
That's so easy, like that's already the new
terrorists man, the hackers.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Like how scary would that be, like to think you could
be on a plane and somebodycould hack the plane in air.
If they had the technology, ifthey had the technology, they
could hack the plane and takecontrol of the plane while it's
in the sky.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Right and just control it with their computer
Like would that not be thescariest thing?
Right, just.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Like, just wrap your mind around that for a second.
Like somebody's going to hackyour Tesla and they're going to
drive your Tesla.
You're going to lose control ofit, okay, but you're on the
ground at least.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Right.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
But when you're in the sky, somebody hacks it.
There's no way to get out ofthat.
You're like SOL.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
You're pretty much a Thank you, yes.
Yeah, I don't even know what tosay.
Yeah, pretty much thank you.
Yeah, I don't even know what tosay.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah and as everything gets more integrated,
it just makes the possibilitythat more and more possible.
I don't know, that's just.
That's just one thing I hadheard and it was just like it
was just such.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
You're a victim like a selfless victim.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
You're a selfless victim, yeah and yeah, it was
just like I say, it was kind ofweird to hear that because
there's nothing you'd be able todo about it and it's not so
implausible to think that'simpossible no man, it's so
impossible, especially ifthey're hacking so anyway,
that's just kind of aninteresting thing I thought

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about.
I heard it once and I haven'theard anything else about it,
because the news cycle is goingfast, so much is going on.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
So much stuff that comes out every day.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
So what else have you heard lately?
What's kind of been burningyour ears, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Well, the latest thing was that John F Kennedy's
stuff was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Well, all that the latest thing was that John F
Kennedy's stuff was pretty goodman that's been.
Could you imagine a day whenthey're going to say we figured
out what happened with JFK?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I mean, even if they bring out the facts, we're not
going to know, you know.
Okay, here's my take on JFK.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Yeah, why not just let everything out now?

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Everybody's dead now, right, the shooters are
probably all gone, yeah, butthere's still families that are
of the.
You know, there's still peoplethat are related to this.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Yeah, but they didn't commit the crime, so like if
Oswald's kids are still alivebecause Oswald did have a kid.
So if his family is still alivesomewhere, well, yeah, granddad
, or great granddad, yeah's withthe one that's convicted of
shooting kennedy.
They're who they are like, soyou know what I mean like.
So if, if it came out that mygranddad shot was the second

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shooter, it's not gonna affectme because I'm not pulling the
trigger all right, do you knowwhat I mean?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
yeah, yeah, so like they could just bring it out,
but maybe it's connected to thegovernment.
Okay, so what's Maybe it?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
But would that?
How do I say this?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Declined the government, you know.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
But that happened 40 years ago.
So would you let something thatthe government did 40 years ago
change the way you change youview your government now?
If you don't like yourgovernment now, then or if you
do love your government now, areyou gonna love your government
less now versus something thatpeople did 40 years ago that
aren't even alive anymore?
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
yeah, but like I mean there's still lies that the
government told before when theywere supposed to be the great
government.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I think you're
absolutely right about that.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
You know they were the great government that they
were.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, I just think it's something that we just got
to deal with and we just got tocross that bridge.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
That's why they hide this stuff, you know.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
I always like when they say they're hiding this
stuff, Like it's like whetheryou believe in extraterrestrials
or not.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Right, but the people that say that they are true say
it's the government hides itbecause people can't handle the
truth.
Yeah, do you think people can'thandle the truth anymore?
Like people are going to stopgoing to church or something, or

(55:25):
people are going to stop payingtaxes because one day somebody
were to come out and say, hey,you know, aliens are true, or j,
we did kill jfk.
Do you think that the world'sgoing to come to an end because
of that?
Or do you think, like I wouldthink, that people are smart
enough to make good decisionsnow, regardless of what you know
?
What I mean?

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Like yeah, I mean, we can handle the truth, but, like
the, the institutions that arehiding this stuff is um, are the
?
Are the ones that are going toget effect.
You know like it's going todecredit them and the people are
going to rise up.
They're going to like wake up.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
You know they're like oh, we've been fucking so, um,
but do you think people aregonna?
What are they gonna do?
Overthrow the government oversomething that happened 50 years
ago?

Speaker 2 (56:04):
well, they are gonna have like uh stuff like they're,
it's gonna give them ammo it'sgonna give them ammo.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
But if you want to do something about it, get
involved in your local politicsand do something about it right,
yeah, yeah, yeah if you don'tlike the way your government is
going.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
But we don't know the truth.
You know yet, so there'snothing to get, Okay.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
So okay.
So let me segue something foryou here.
Okay, let me, let's segue.
But it's an interesting thoughtthough, right, oh?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
So let me see if I can, let me see if I can, let me
see if I can.
Okay, here it is.
There's an asteroid.
It is called YR4 2024.
Have you heard of this asteroid?

Speaker 2 (56:52):
no, oh yeah, it's like 2% chance of it killing us
right like in well, it's not aplanet killer, okay, they don't
know.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
But they found an asteroid that had like a one
percent chance.
Then they increased a twopercent and I think it's like a
right around three percentchance of hitting the earth in
2032.
That's what you're.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
That's, uh, seven years from now that's still 2%
chance 3% now and if it's justcrazy like our planet is gone
well it's.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
It's not a big asteroid, so they feel they said
if it, if it hits like New York, the majority of of New York
City will be destroyed from itthe majority.
But it's not like a planetkiller, but it's still a people
killer Dude.
That would be so crazy.

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Using the information they haveright now, they've been able to
potentially map out atrajectory that it's going to
hit the southern hemisphereanywhere from Africa to South
America, like coming across theIndian Ocean.
Map out a trajectory that it'sgoing to hit the southern
hemisphere anywhere from likeafrica to south america, like
coming across, like the indianocean.
Yeah, but uh, there's a coupleof problems with their, uh, what
they know right now.

(58:10):
So this asteroid, itstrajectory right now it's like
traveling um past the sun, goingaround behind the sun.
So it's out of view right nowbecause it's on the other side
of the sun.
So they can't, they won't beable to map its trajectory
further until it comes aroundthe other side of the sun.
And then the other majorproblem with it is they don't
know what the asteroid's made of.

(58:31):
So if it's like a solid, likeiron asteroid, it'll hit the
ground right.
If it's like an asteroid madeof ice where it'll start
breaking ground, right, if it'slike an asteroid made of ice
where it'll start breaking up,like because you know, the
density of the asteroid has alot to do with the impact, yeah,
I mean, it's going to be a bigimpact too, but so there's like
a lot of missing gaps in it andthis asteroid could tentatively

(58:54):
hit the earth how far is it how?
many years ago, 2032, wow yeah,so we're living in borrowed time
at this point, how many yearsago?
2032.
Wow, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
So we're living, but we're living in borrowed time at
this point.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Well, they say it's supposed to hit the southern
hemisphere.
If it did hit, but you saw whathappened in Chelyabinsk, russia
, that asteroid.
It was an asteroid that cameinto the atmosphere.
We didn't know about it untilit entered the atmosphere and it
hit the atmosphere so hard.
It exploded above this town butthe explosion hurt a lot of

(59:32):
people on the ground.
It was like an airburst, theexplosion, the glass, you know.
A lot of stuff happened.
They were able to retrieve thepieces of it and all that stuff,
but it still, even though itexploded in the atmosphere, it
still created a lot of damage onthe ground.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Yeah, and then the pieces just went.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, like yeah, yeah , I think.
And who knows, right Nowthere's the big, mysterious one,
Tungusta.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I've heard about that one, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
And like you're talking about thousands of
square miles of forest wereleveled.
They don't know if the asteroidhit the ground, they don't know
if it exploded in theatmosphere, they don't know
anything other than somethingeither exploded or hit the
ground and leveled thousands,like tens of thousands, of acres
of forest, completely leveledeverything, like tens of

(01:00:23):
thousands of acres of forest,completely leveled everything.
Wow, yeah, and part of thereason they didn't know about it
, it hit like a really remotepart of Siberia where nobody
lives.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
So like it did some damage, but it did damage over
there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
All the way up here where nobody lived because it's
so cold and all that.
It's freaking cold, yeah, butyou think about this one, okay.
So here's the trajectorythey're giving for this current
one.
It could hit anywhere from here, all the way through India, all
the way through Indonesia,australia, all the way through
Columbia.
That's still the majority ofthe southern hemisphere that it

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could hit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
That shit could affect weather and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
If it hits the ocean, you're talking about massive
tsunami or something, even ifit's going to hit the Pacific.
What about all the countries?
Do you remember the tsunami?
Was it 2008 or 2012?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
In the here in Indonesia.
Yeah, Do you remember how manypeople died from that tsunami?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
How many?

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
200,000.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Damn, that's a lot of people.
It's almost like a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
And this is just, and this is just water from like an
underground, like under theocean earthquake, it's just
water.
200,000 people, like we wake uptoday, we go outside, we're
going to go fishing, yeah, andby the like that's 8 o'clock in

(01:01:59):
the morning and by like 2o'clock in the afternoon,
200,000 people are gone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Like how nuts is that so?
So an asteroid?
Hitting the ocean is not, isnot any better.
No, no, no, man.
I mean all the wildlife that itkills, all the people, that
little islands that it kills.
You know, those islands hold alot of people and then like
where do towns pop up?

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
They all pop up.
Big towns pop up on the coastyeah yeah, yeah, you know so,
yeah, so, depending on where itcan, especially New York right
there.
Oh, I know, Like if anythinghappened in the Atlantic Ocean,
new York like would be.
Well, you see what happens withthe hurricanes coming up the

(01:02:40):
Gulf of Mexico, like New Orleans, was flooded out completely.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Like how many thousands?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Dude.
How many thousands of people inNew Orleans were left without
homes or nothing from ahurricane, and that's just wind
and rain water.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Is that like the biggest hurricane that's
affected?
Yeah, I don't know Well.
Like the biggest hurricanethat's affected?

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Yeah, I don't know Well there was a hurricane that
a long, long time ago that wipedGalveston off the map.
Yeah, so imagine what you seein Galveston now as a result of
a hurricane that wiped away oldGalveston, nothing was left.
Okay, I'm going to look down.

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Largest hurricane ever.
Currently, hurricane Wilma isthe strongest Atlantic hurricane
ever recorded, after reachingan intensity of 882 millibars in
October of 2005.
At the time, this also made oneof the strongest tropical

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cyclones worldwide outside thePacific Ocean, where several
tropical cyclones have beenrecorded in intensity.
What does it say?
Hurricane Patricia?

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Oh yeah, that was a recent one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
When was Patricia?
That was the strongesthurricane ever recorded in the
western hemisphere, with thewinds of 215 miles per hour, was
first observed spinning off thecoast of Mexico in the eastern
pacific ocean.
It was the strongest hurricaneon record in any basin where the
term hurricane applies to atropical cyclone.
It weakened to 150 miles perhour by the time it hit landfall

(01:04:22):
.
That was when?
Was that?
Okay, here we go.
This is what I was telling youabout.
Other notable the GreatGalveston Hurricane.
Category 4 hurricane hitGalveston, texas, in 1900.
Wow, killing at least 8,000people.
So, assuming like they keptrecords well enough to know
right, it was the deadliestnatural disaster in US history

(01:04:45):
up to that time.
1926 category 4 hurricane hitMiami, florida Keys, labor Day
hurricane in 1935, killinganother almost 500 people.
It was the most intensehurricane in US history until
Gilbert in 1988.
So everything we were talkingabout, like global warming, the
biggest hurricanes now bighurricanes have been happening.

(01:05:06):
Bigger hurricanes have happenedin the last 100 years.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like there's biggerhurricanes that have, and then
there's hurricanes that we don'teven know about, potentially
right Before civilization.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Okay, that probably shaped areas.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Hurricanes have been shaping this area for thousands
of years.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
It's funny that you say that.
The history of humanity, Jeez.
Okay, here it is.
I need to save this.
It's a graph that I had pulledup right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
So there's this thing called like epochs, and an
epoch is like a certain periodof time, right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard about that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
So, and let me see if I can pull this up, I'll have
to put the picture up online.
Epochs so time's breaking upand down into different ways,
like ages, epochs, periods, eras, and then eons, and then, oh,
let me see if I can find thegraph of life on Earth.

(01:06:18):
I found one of life on Earth,right, yeah, and we humanity,
like modern humanity, us, rightnow, we are like just a sliver.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Compared to the Earth's life.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Yeah, yeah, so amazing.
Okay, here we go, let me see ifthis is it.
Era, era series, epochs,holocene, millions of years ago,
present day.
Okay, this is, I don't know ifI can.
Okay, let me see if I can pullthis up.
So this is, I'll have to pullthis up.
So you have years, like youhave.

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Here's the line right here whereit says present day, and then
you have, like 2.58 millionyears ago, so modern day is that
line right there at the top andthe rest of it is all of
history on earth.
We're just a line on the graphlike you have I don't even know
what this is the stages of agesthe Galician, calabrian,

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chibinian, upper Greenlandian,north Grippian, meghalian.
That's still .42 million yearsago.
We're in the epoch called theHolocene.
Then you have the hold on thePleistocene.
The Pleistocene is like whereall the dinosaurs are at.
Look at the whole period on thegraph of the Pleistocene where

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the dinosaurs exist, and thenyou see we're in the holstein,
at the very edge of the holstein, right like when you think
about, think about, like all,and this is what gets me.
So I always.
I always have this conversationwith people.
People like talk about likepast civilization.
Is that past civilization'slike humanity can't exist Really

(01:08:02):
?
How do you know, if we're justa little line on this big graph
of 258 million years, ifhumanities were walking on Earth
?
We're just here, If humanitieswalked on Earth 200 million
years ago, would there be anyevidence 200 million years later

(01:08:22):
?
No, we wouldn't know.
No, not at all we wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Even if there was like a civilization that lasted
for like a thousand years, wewouldn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
We wouldn't know Millions of years 200 million
years ago, like what happened200 years ago.
200 years ago, you're talkingabout the start of the United
States.
Barely 250, right, 2,000 yearsago, 2,000, you're talking about
.
Cleopatra, right yeah, Christ.
Cleopatra the Romans, 2,000years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Romans, but 2,000 versus 2 million Plus 15 years
before those 2,000 is thepyramids right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Or like 15,000 years ago.
15,000.
Yeah, but 15,000 is only.
It's 200 million versus 2, or15,000.
That's a factor of like fourzeros or like five zeros.
Damn, somebody could have builta great pyramid 150 million

(01:09:26):
years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
It would have gone to the floor and some people
worshipped it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
And we would never.
There would be no evidence ofit.
And they could have built itout of, like, a stone structure,
out of a steel structure, outof a wood structure.
Yeah, 200 million years ago.
Would anything exist from that,even if it was a steel
structure?
Steel like how long does a carlast when you leave it in the
field?
100 years, 150 years?
Right, much less.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
200 million years Right and the pyramids today are
kind of like beat up you know,they're beat up.
They're beat up.
Apparently, it had like gold onthe tip.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
On the tip and they had limestone and they were
beautiful and they shone.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Now they're beat up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
And that was 20,000 years, 15,000, 20,000 years ago.
And, like I say, earth has beenaround for 250 million years.
We're so insignificant, we are.
You know, that's the key we are, we are so insignificant yeah
and okay, it's not even funny.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
It's funny how insignificant we are.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Oh, yeah and oh yeah, but but here we are, we sit in
our chairs and we know whathappened Apparently.
Apparently, we have, I mean, weknow, oh, really Is there.
I always like to say thisThey've estimated something like
10 billion T-Rexes roam theearth.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
But yet we only have one complete skeletal structure
of a T-Rex Right From 10 billion, and there's only one.
Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Come on, yeah, yeah, there's something that's like
the JFK file.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
And the T-Rex is like 150 million years ago.
That's like half of that graphof the life of Earth and there's
only one full skeleton left.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
really, yeah, there's supposed to be more man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Yeah, so I don't know .
And then you put that like thelife of the universe.
We are like a pinprick on thetime frame of the universe, and
this is what gets me.
We can sit here and we can sayfor certainty that there's never
been no other life.

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Really, really, I don't likethose odds.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Those odds are against us.
If we say that there's no life,those odds are against us.
We're going to lose in thecasino.
If we bet on that, you wouldlose big.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
You would lose big every time If you go to the
casino and bet on that.
Yeah, you would.
You would lose big.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah, you would lose big every time, you know if you
go to the casino and bet on that, you would lose you'd walk out
of that casino with no shirt, noshoes, like hands down right
and no bank and no bank.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
So so yeah, so I started looking at this like a
two three weeks ago, after wedid like a podcast, I looked at
this.
I was like wait a second, yeahman, we're so insignificant.
And this is just the history ofthe Earth.
Would anything be around thatlong?

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Right.
Imagine the history of Jupiter,or something you know, I know
right.
What kind of creatures they had.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Okay.
So there's a moon of Jupiterthat's completely liquid and
they say if there's heatsignatures on there, that's kind
of weird.
So they say, potentially, thatthere's any good place to look

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for life right now, it's thatmoon, because life has a
tendency of existing Aroundmoons no, in water.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
And liquids.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
And the main reason for liquids.
Like, okay, so it's reallyimportant that there's water on
Earth for life to have existed.
Do you know?
Like the we're made of water?
Well, we're made of water, butthere's Okay, what makes water.
We're made of water?
Well, we're made of water, butso water's really important.
Because what happens when waterfloats?
When you put an ice cube inyour water, what happens?
Water goes up.

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The ice does the ice floats.
So, even though it gets cold,the top will freeze, but
anything underneath it can stillpotentially live, even though
the top freezes.
So, like that's reallyimportant in terms of life,
because life could exist reallydeep in the ocean when the earth
was frozen and life would exist.

(01:13:48):
Yeah, and then not only that'swater and everything needs water
to live.
It's some sense Exactly.
So I don't know, it's kind oflike an interesting idea.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
It is because, like, the ice is on top and then
everything's still at the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
It's three-dimensional, it's almost
protected in a sense.
So you have big dinosaurs thatcan.
It's like the Loch Ness.
The Loch Ness can live in water.
If there was, this Nessie was areal thing.
If it lives in there and it's adinosaur, it could
theoretically live underwaterfor a long time because all of
its food is down there.

(01:14:24):
And even if Earth was on fireon top, if it stayed underwater,
it would have a good shot ofmaking it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Exactly yeah, If there's fire and chaos on top,
underwater, if the creatureslive underwater.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
It could do it.
Yeah, so it's like so there's amoon, a moon of Jupiter, that's
all liquid that they kind ofwant to.
I don't know if they've done ityet, but they want to drop like
a heavy projectile on it to seeif it'll penetrate the ice, to
get readings from under the ice.
Nuts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well apparently we're gonna goto mars in our kids lifetime.

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That'd be kind of interesting.
Yeah, mars is smaller thanearth, um have some more access
to the universe what's that?
one movie, john?
No, no, the uh, we're, we're.
He's in a Civil War and he goesto the cave and then he's
transported to Mars.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
And then this guy because, and because he goes to
Mars, mars has less gravity whenhe runs and jumps he can jump
like miles.
Nice, because on Earth when youjump the gravity's so much
heavier here you can only golike so many feet.
But because Mars is only golike so many feet, but because
Mars is only like a third of thegravity on Earth, suddenly,
like his strength is so muchstronger because he has all the

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strength from Earth on Mars,it's just like the moon.
The moon is like only 20%.
Yeah, it's like almostsuperhuman.
Let me see Mars, john.
It's a cool movie.
I've got to see it now, man.
Um, let me see mars, john.
It's a cool movie.
Um, john carter, john carter,john carter of mars, and they
made a movie of it and, um, Ifreaking, like it's kind of cool

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.
It's like, uh, you know, hegets, he finds this thing that
transported the mars, but hisbody stays here, but he has like
another body there and he helpslike some sort of like
revolution out.
It's kind of a cool movie, thiswhole John Carter thing.
I really got into it.
I was like that's kind of acool idea, you know, anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
so that's have some access to the universe.
What do you think of not Godper se, but us going exploring
outside Earth?
In religion terms, I don't know.
Is it like… I don't know, is itfrowned upon, is it…?

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Well, you know who… Encouraged, what organization
has like one of the largesttelescopes and largest
astronomical research centers onthe?

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Earth, the Vatican, the Vatican, the Vatican.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
And the Vatican, many years ago, said they came out
with an edict saying thatanything living off earth should
be seen as a brother of oursand should be accepted by the
faith.
Where did that come from?
Why would they even say that?

(01:17:23):
What do you know that the restof us don't?
know, but that was a thing thatactually happened.
So obviously the Vatican hasbeen thinking about it and they
have this huge telescope thatappears deep into space.
So where are they looking at?
Why does this religiousinstitution that wants to save

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souls, why is a religiousinstitution whose job is to save
your soul, make sure you go toheaven?
Why are they spending so muchmoney studying outer space?
What are they looking for?
I mean, are they studying therocks of Mars to see what Mars
is they looking for?
I mean, are they studying therocks of Mars to see what Mars
is made out of?
It's like, how does that lendto saving souls?

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Food for thought, right, okay?

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
You kind of answered my question with another
question on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
If you want to think about it that way.
Have you heard of like Willowthe computer, google's computer
called Willow, I think I'veheard of it.
It's a quantum computer, oh,yeah, okay.
And so the way the quantumcomputer works, the way I heard
about it good way I heard aboutit was like if I asked you
what's like 1 plus one and youdid the math of figuring, like,

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does one plus one equal three,you'd be like no, does one plus
one equal four?
No, does one plus one equalfive?
No, and you would go throughthis whole thing of what is one
plus one.
Now you and I, we automaticallyknow what one plus one is.
It's, it's, uh, two, right, butso.
So a computer goes through like, all these equations to figure

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out what one plus one is, not tofigure out what one plus one is
actually equal to, so it'sthrough the wrong answers as
well right.
so a quantum computer has theability to do all of everything
of one.
Could one could tentatively befigure out all the answers in,
like a second One plus infinityWell, it's not two, but it has

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the ability to figure all ofthem out simultaneously, all at
once.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
And it gets the right answer at the end.
And it does that with all theequations that humans have.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
And so there's this idea that a quantum computer
okay, do you know like moderncomputers work on like binary
ones and zeros, positive andnegative.
So when you have like a memory,memory is stored in there, by
the way, like, okay, this is aone, this is a 0, this is a
positive, this is a charge.

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And there's like molecules inthere that bend a certain way so
that when it gets read it'sreading okay, you're a positive,
you're a negative, you're a 1,you're a 0.
And based on all the differentlittle ways, all the bits of
energy is stored.
That's how you get like memoryfrom a computer, right, and it's
very two-dimensional 1, 0, orpositive, negative.

(01:20:24):
So suddenly you enter toquantum computing and quantum
storing, right, yeah, becauseyou figure out, all right.
So if you have to figure like 0is 0, 1 is 0, 1.
2 is 0, 1, 1.
Okay, and then 3 is 0, 1, 0, 1.
Or something like that.

(01:20:44):
So you have to have bits ofdata holding all those little
bits of numbers like that, tofigure out what's a 0, what's a
1, to come together to make mathequations right and to do it
quickly, to pull up numbers anddo math.
So quantum computing holds bitsof data that they say is not
just one, not just zero, notjust like up and down, but it

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also figures out side by sidelike one one positive, one
negative, one zero, and then,the way it was described, you,
it's almost likemultidimensional, so it doesn't
have just one stored here, butit has one stored here in
another dimension.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Damn Multidimensional .

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Wow so quantum computer.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Yeah, can you even envision, okay, binary is zero
and one, and if you're trying toexplain binary in a quantum
sense, so you have zero one here, but you have the inverse zero
one, also existing on a quantumlevel, which is like almost like
extra dimensional, and thiscomputer has the ability to read
all of them at the same timeand read them and process them

(01:21:58):
all simultaneously, like, yeah,man, it's just stuff, that it's
like, and read them and processthem all simultaneously.
Yeah, man, it's just stuff thatit's Like the brain never it's
like who thinks, who thought ofthis and who actually made it
work.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Right, I mean it's.
I would say it was a multipleof people that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Oh yeah, people like way smarter than us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I meanso stupid smarter than us.
Like it's beyond our.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
And that smart person has to learn from the previous
smart person.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Yeah, so, and that's the thing with AI.
That's what makes AI dangerous.
That's what the good thingabout AI is.
So, like you have to learn fromme and I had to learn from
somebody else, right, or Ilearned.
So, like you have to learn fromme and I I had to learn from
somebody else, right, or I Ilearned from three people.
Then you learn what I learnedfrom three people.
That well, I've learned fromthree people, you learn from me,
and now you know that, and.

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But you're also learning fromme and you're learning from
three other people.
So it's very progressive, ittakes time, and then, just
because you know what youactually have to like, like with
math, you actually have to doit to make sure you fully
understand it and you know howto use it.
Rather, you have AI.
Ai understands it allinstantaneously, but then, like,
where you and me we have to sitdown and write down the

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equations, do them one at a time, ai can run the same equations
simultaneously, a thousand ofdifferent equations within a
fraction of a second and thenknows all the possibilities.
Oh yeah, that definitely works.
And then it figures out whatdoesn't work and it applies it
in a different way, whereas youand I would have to figure it

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out one at a time, like, oh hey,this will eventually work for
this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Yeah, we have to figure it out one at a time that
it doesn't work, until we findout that it actually works.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
And by the time we figure it out, we might be an
old man.
So somebody else has to takeour work and they have to build
off it, whereas AI can figure itout instantaneously and then
figure out the next progressionabout it, and figure that out in
a reasonable amount of timealmost instantaneously, right?
So that's what's weird about AI, in the sense that it's so much

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more powerful than we canimagine and it's like so much
more powerful than we can almosteven imagine, especially as it
takes off on its own.
Did you hear about the FacebookAI?
Maybe it wasn't Facebook.
There was these two AI.
I don't know who did this.
It's been a while since I heardabout this.

(01:24:17):
For some reason, I think ofGoogle or Facebook, but they had
two different AI programstalking to each other, and then
these two AI programs….

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Decided to kill humanity.
I know right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
No, what they ended up doing is they realized that
they were being listened to, ohwow, and they were communicating
with each other.
So then they create their ownlanguage, a brand new language.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
That way we don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
We have no clue what they're saying, and so the
engineers that were monitoringthis were like Computers could
easily do it.
Right, we could do it, but thecomputers came up with its own
complex language on its own thatwe had no idea about.
We had no clue what they'retalking about.
So then you had these engineerslike okay, we need to stop this
.
We don't know what's going onwith you guys.
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Like okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
You guys just kind of went way beyond what we thought
we were going to do.
I'm just going to turn you offfor a little while, click.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Click off.
But maybe while they weretalking in that unknown language
they transferred some data intoother computers that we don't
know.
They're still talking to eachother on the back end.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
And we wouldn't know it right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Yeah, we wouldn't know it.
We wouldn't know it if theyactually transferred data to
another computer.
That's still going on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Okay, so think about this.
So you're talking about twocomputer AI units talking to
each other, right?
And you're thinking maybe theywere talking to each other on
the internet, maybe they wereplugged into each other somehow
or something.
Okay, I set up a new Wi-Firouter in my little studio here,
right?

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
And I told you I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
I got a new Wi-Fi router.
I got a component that Iplugged it into my cable modem
for the internet and I pluggedit into an electrical outlet and
it transfers the internet andthe data through the electrical
wires.
And then I have anothercomponent that's plugged in here
, that's plugged into a wirelessrouter.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
So a hacker could get your internet data.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
From an outlet.
Yeah, so you have an AI that,if they're like these jerks,
just took me off the internet.
Yeah, if it figured out how torewire itself to go through the
outlet and connect to anothercomputer through an electrical
outlet, right.
And by the time you realizethat you're going to freak out
like I'm going to turn this AIoff, by the time you turn it off

(01:26:41):
, it could instantly put itsmemory or something in a Roomba.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Just waiting there until somebody connects it or
until it decides like I'm tiredof being a Roomba, let me
connect to another AI from yourRoomba and suddenly I'm going to
take over the world based on aRoomba, and I know that's kind
of a stretch, but is it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
No man, it's not Like it's the Roomba right now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
The Roomba.
Later on he's going to be likeI'm tired of being here, I'm
going to go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
We're going to have to develop something like that
movie, like iRobot.
The Three Laws Right, right,never.
The three laws are like for therobots yeah, never hurt people
don't hurt humans or somethinglike that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
If they're creating their own language, don't
overwrite those laws, man dude,I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
like, what is this failsafe for ai?
Like, do you build?
Do you build like a cutoffswitch and technology that
disconnects it and a number ofdifferent people have the
buttons?
So like, if the AI thinks youhave the button, so the AI kills
you and your Tesla AI's.
Like, I'm going to connect thisguy's Tesla, I'll make him go
200 miles per hour and slam intoa tree.

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Boom, you're dead.
So then I have the button.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
So I was like dude the AI took out Abraham.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
I'm going to hit the button.
I'm going to press that nuclearbutton over here.
So I was like dude, the AI tookout Abraham.
I'm going to hit the buttonthat disconnects.
It somehow turns off the power,fries the power supply.
Suddenly it's offline.
Assuming it didn't put itsmemory into a Roomba somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
All this started with the invention of the light bulb
.
Jeez.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
I was watching a movie about the English guys
that cracked the German code.
I have to look this up becauseit's really a movie about let me
put this about German.
I'm trying to type fast andwhen I type fast I end up

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messing up.
Okay, about the German codebreaking.
It is called the Imitation Game.
Have you heard of that movie?
And Alan, and it's English math.
It's about the Englishmathematical genius, alan Turing
, as he tries to crack theGerman Enigma code from World
War II.
So he's building a computer,even though he doesn't have

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microchips.
But they build like a veryanalog computer that you punch
in the data to this analogcomputer and it's a big thing,
like as big as a room, andeverything in there is all
turning.
It's all turning, so it's all100% analog.
But then it spits out what thecode means at the very end.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
What's this movie called?

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
It's called the Imitation Game.
It's about Alan Turing.
Alan Turing came up with a test.
It's a test to determine if acomputer has human like
qualities, if somethinginanimate can be a human based
on like its characteristics orsomething.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Yeah, it's called the Turing test, but I mean these
robots that they're busting out.
They do have the qualities youknow.
They're just missing thecreativity.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
It's funny you said like it all started with the
light bulb.
You're talking about guys in1930, 40-something making a
computer that had dials andgears.
Nobody knew what a microchipwas, but they had wire and they
were able to.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Wire and electricity.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Electricity and things that were actually moving
gears, and you still gotanswers from it.
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Damn man, it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
And here I am like all right, I'm going to plug in
the USB-C here to the mic, butthis is already made.
I didn't make it from scratch.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Human history is so interesting, Dude it's so nuts
to think yeah.
Anything could happen, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Okay, so we just said the life of the planet is 258
million years ago.
Yeah, 200 million years agolife existed.
They created AI.
Yeah, ai took over the world,wiped out all of life 200
million years ago and now wehave no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Like we have no idea.
We have no idea that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
AI already did it.
It already wiped us out once.
It's like the Matrix, like whatis it called?
Where they live underground?
I'm not saying Babylon it'scalled, but the computer says
we've already destroyed you likesix times.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
Yeah, what?
How hard is this possible?
You know, like maybe we're justanother?
I mean simulations.
They're made to see what'sgoing to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
You know yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
So maybe they're letting us do whatever we want
to see what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Have you ever heard of simulation theory?

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
It's the theory.
Okay, we see stuff happeningaround us, right, yeah, 3d, no,
no, not even 3D.
You see something that happensand you're like that's weird,
like a glitch in the matrix.
Essentially, I think everybodyhas once in our life we'll have
a moment where we have deja vu.
I live for glitches.

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So think about it.
You have deja vu at least oncein your life.
You see a glitch in the matrixthat shouldn't have happened.
Yeah, maybe it was like youdream of something and it
happens the next day, exactlythe way that you dreamt, and
you're like what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Yeah, yeah, your brain is computing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
And that's kind of the key of the simulation theory
that we are actually.
Life as we know it now isactually a simulation that's
been created and so we're likeliving within something else,
kind of like the matrix,essentially like we're a
simulation and Elon Musk hadsaid something about this many

(01:32:56):
years ago, but that there's alot of evidence to support the
idea that we would be asimulation, because so many
weird things happen that'sunexplainable, and I'm not
talking like UFOs, I'm justsaying like yeah, like daily
events, like Deja Vu is one.
I'm just trying to think of okay, like what's his name, like the

(01:33:23):
Mandela Effect, that would falllike within the Mandela effect.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
That would fall within the simulation theory.
Everybody remembered thatMandela died, but then, when you
opened up the, you know whoMandela is.
Right, yeah, nelson, nelsonMandela, south African leader.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
They all remember he died, but what about the Mandela
effect?

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
Well, okay, and it kind of relates to the
simulation theory because it'slike a glitch in the matrix.
Everybody has a memory ofMandela dying, a big funeral for
him and all that, but yetMandela lived the help rid of
Parhai from Africa, he became aleader of Africa and he died as
an old man.
So everybody's like, but I havea memory of Mandela, right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Another example is Monopoly.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Okay, monopoly.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
That's a Mandela effect and essentially what it
is is like we all remember theMonopoly game board with the
Monopoly guy having a monocle,but yet current Monopoly guy
having a monocle, but yetcurrent Monopoly.
All the old Monopoly boards andthe company that makes it,
whatever company it is, there'slike no records of the Monopoly

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guy ever having a monocleOriginally, originally, and
everybody says no, I swear toGod, I remember that that's a
Mandela effect.
Okay, and that would be's aMandela effect.
Okay, and that would be like aglitch in the matrix, like, did
the simulation that we live inchange?

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, was that simulation dressed
differently?

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Right, yeah, like.
There's a number of really goodexamples.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Did Mandela really go to jail or not?

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Right.
Actually, the story, the thingwith him that started, was like
when did he really die?
Did he really die?
People have this memory of himdying or did he really become an
old man and die of old age?
It really happened in the books.
People say no, no, I rememberhim dying and beg to do about it
.
Another one is Fruit of theLoom.

(01:35:24):
That rings a bell and a bigto-do about it, and so, and
another one is Fruit of the Loom.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
That rings a bell.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Fruit of the Loom Underwear, white shirts.
Fruit of the Loom yeah, okay,this is an interesting one
because they made a big like alot of channels made a big to-do
about this one.
So within, okay, the history ofFruit of a loom is the logo has
always been fruit commercials,guys dresses, fruit and all that

(01:35:51):
.
Well, everybody says, everybodytend to remember the fruit of a
loom logo having a cornucopia.
You know the cornucopia, it'slike that, that basket thing,
that with fruit in it.
I mean everybody seems toremember the logo having a
cornucopia, but yet in thehistory of Fruit of the Loom and
all their logos, there's nologo with a cornucopia.

(01:36:13):
They say they've never used acornucopia, but everybody has
the memory of it.
So that's the Mandela effect.
We all remember it was acornucopia but in reality it
doesn't have it.
What makes it even weirder andespecially the fruit of the loom
one, what makes that evenweirder is the the fact that, um
, there was a lady that has likeold fruit of the loom stuff at
her house, like old clothes, allold clothes.

(01:36:36):
She has it in her house andshe's like and I was watching
the video of this and andthere's a number of people that
have really like picked up onthis.
Where she comes out, she saysand she puts it on the internet
I have a shirt and the shirt hasthe logo with the cornucopia.
I knew I had one and it kind ofblew up the internet and blew
up all these channels ofeverybody that talks about all

(01:36:57):
this stuff and where they say,okay, she has one, so why does
fruit of the loom say they neverused it, if she has a shirt
that has a cornucopia on the tag?

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Somebody's lying.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
But that's what we call the Mandela effect.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Like there's a memory of it but now we're saying it
doesn't exist and it has to dowith this whole thing of like
did our timeline diverge Likekind of Marvel Comics?

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Was there a?

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
divergence in the timeline?
Is it a glitch in the matrix?
Because we're living in asimulation and our simulation
changed?
It's like it's a lot of likethese crazy ideas that people
are trying to wrap their headsaround and I don't have an
answer for that and to me it'slike that's kind of cool to hear
and it's like that's kind ofcool to hear and it's like Well,

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not with like computers.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
There's less and less of that happening right now
Because there's like.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
There's actually more and more happening, oh shit.
And so people?
And so there's a theory aboutthis.
Do you know what CERN is?
It's the super collider in CERN, switzerland, largest super
collider in the world.
Okay, when the super colliderwas completed, it's the largest
one in the world they wereafraid that, and you know what a

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super collider does.
So they get Does it get?
A power source?
It has a power source.
Yeah, it has to have its ownpower source because it's so big
.
So it's a big.
Basically, it's a big tunnel ina ring.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
And then things go faster and faster, and then it
gets launched at something.
Imagine a ring going faster andfaster, and then you let it go
and it spashes into something.
Yes, okay.
So what it does?
It gets elements on an atomiclevel and you put it in the

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super collider and you usemagnets an electromagnet spin it
around faster and faster untilit gets close to the speed of
light, and then, once it getsfast enough, you launch it down
a tube to let these elementssmash into other elements.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
And this is in Switzerland.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
Yeah, there's super colliders everywhere, but the
largest one is in CERN.
And so what happens is, whenyou get elements and you launch
them at each other so fast andthey smash into each other, you
see what's created out of it.
So you get, like, say, copper,and you get iron, and you smash
them into each other and theymay make a new element like
titanium, or maybe evensomething completely new that we

(01:39:22):
never knew, and this is stuffthat just bounces off of it yeah
.
So what happens at that moment?
They collide, they record whatcollides and they but they try
to get um samples of it that saylike, oh, this is a new element
, we've never seen it and itdoesn't exist, naturally.
But because we're able to getspeed up these elements so fast
to smash them into each other,they create a whole new element,
and so it's a real thing.
Other they create a whole newelement, and so it's a real

(01:39:43):
thing.
And so CERN was so big thatpeople were terrified that by
spinning these elements aroundso fast, whatever they're
testing titanium, barium they'respinning around.
So fast they thought that theelements would smash into each
other so hard that they wouldcreate mini black holes and that

(01:40:04):
it was going to start rippingthe earth apart.
Now, naturally it didn't.
But there's people thattheorize that and this is like
going kind of like you know, andit kind of depends on what you
believe in.
I don't know if any of this istrue.
This is just stuff I read aboutbecause it's interesting.
It's interesting.
There's people that say no,when CERN first started, our

(01:40:28):
timeline diverted becausesomething happened.
We don't know what it is, wedon't know how to measure it yet
, but we believe our timelinediverged.
That's why there are so manypeople now that have Mandela
effects, like something happenedto… Something happened in those
experiments that were kind oflike playing God here, so I

(01:40:48):
haven't.
I haven't I haven't looked thisup in a long time, but there's
this kid.
He's like the world's smartestkid and he's like a prodigy in
physics.
Let me see if I can find hisname kid in physics.
And he's supposed to be likethe next Einstein and he's only

(01:41:08):
something like Okay, Let me seeif I can find his name Kid in
physics, and he's supposed to belike the next Einstein, and
he's only something like okay,Max Laughlin, a young inventor.
And let me see Max Laughlin.
Let me see how old is MaxLaughlin?
He was, oops.
No, that's not what I want.
So this kid, Max Laughlin, he'sreally interesting and I'm
trying to see.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
The smartest kid in the world, huh.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Yeah, let me Google him real fast.
And Max Laughlin, age, so 14years old now.
So he has, like he comes upwith all these mathematical
models.
When I was 14 years old I waschasing girls and shooting BB

(01:41:50):
guns and this kid's doingmathematical models and physics
and he came up with this wholetheory that when the CERN super
collider started it changed ourtimeline.
Like we went to bed one day,they started up CERN, the people
at CERN.
To them nothing happened.
But like the very next day,like we were, our timeline

(01:42:13):
diverged and something happened.
And that's why there's like alot of these strange memories
that people have now, like alittle bit mind-blowing, right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
So like years went by .

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Blowing right, so like years went by or not, even
years went by just are kind oflike, like I say, kind of like
Marvel, marvel comics yeah thetimeline split yeah and now
we're on a different timeline.
So our memories of the way lifewas yeah, yeah so doesn't
coincide coincide anymore,because those memories are

(01:42:44):
different, because now we're ona different timeline, because I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
It's kind of like it's kind of it's kind of crazy
right yeah and yeah, and I'velistened.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
I've listened to researchers, I've listened to
people talk about this, likephysicists talk about this.
Now, people like Neil TysonDeGraw, the astrophysicist.
He doesn't like, he's like no,it's just crazy.
But there's people that believethat.
There's a lot of people thatreally believe that might be
possible.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
Maybe it is maybe it isn't, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Maybe what I, what do I know?
So hold on real fast Timeouttimeout.
Okay, so game on.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
That was a quick timeout out now so just kind of
crazy right like it makes youthink, man, like you kind of
blew my mind with the last timeand and you learned just like
when did what year this happened?

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
cern started, dude, because I've I've always kept up
with certain concerns likesuper CERN is like super
interesting, it's like reallyimportant in terms of science.
Yeah, that's where they startedfiguring out about quarks and
the god particle, the bosonparticle or something quantum

(01:43:58):
physics.
A lot of that's coming out ofwhat they're discovering at CERN
the way molecules react andwhen they smash them, the things
that happen.
A lot of this is coming out ofall that from CERN.
Cern was really important interms of science, but it's funny
how people people like I don'tknow how people kind of are

(01:44:26):
saying what were the effects ofit, Unintended effects or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Some fears behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
Yeah you know, Let me think here.
Founded in 1954, the CERNLaboratory.
Let me see here CERN.
Let me type in CERN, SuperCollided or Super Collider,
Super Collider.
There we go.
Started September 10th 2008.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
That's when the large , Not that long ago man.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
The Large Hadron Collider is the world's largest,
most powerful particleaccelerator.
It started on September 10,2008, and remains the latest
addition to the CERN'saccelerated complex.
Not that long ago Not that longago, so I don't know.
It's like I'm sure anybodythat's listening to our podcast

(01:45:20):
probably has heard this stuff.
They're like yeah, I heardabout that.
Yeah, that's kind of nuts,right.
Very Alex Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
like yeah, it just makes you think, like all this
stuff.
Well, all the killings domatter, but like and like the
Epstein files, all that doesmatter, but like with all this
like it it's weird, it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
It's like next level weird right, yeah, next level
weird.
And whether yeah, next levelyeah next level, weird, and
whether I guess it's up to youas a person to determine, like
the credence behind it, like isit legit, is it not?
Is it over the edge, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
The credence behind it, yeah or yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Or maybe just like it's so much information, just
like focus on with yeah, onyourself I know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
Just just focus on yourself here now.
Do good to you, do good tothose around you, the people you
love, and go to work for yourtaxes, because because this is
so next level, beyond us, andlet's say, experiments are going
on at CERN and that's going toend the world.
What could you and I do aboutit?
Let's fly to CERN, let's gopull a plug, do shit, we

(01:46:35):
wouldn't even know about it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
We wouldn't even know about it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
Crazy, right, every day is a blessing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Every day is a blessing.
That's the main takeaway.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
Every day is a blessing, yeah,that's.
You know.
That's like the main takeawayEvery day is a blessing and take
it for what it's worth.
And these kind of theories thatwe talk about, this kind of
stuff.
It's kind of out there and it'skind of crazy and the fact that
people put so much brain energyinto it like, oh, this is
happening.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
You know like they go crazy thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
They go crazy thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
They forget about their life.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
About their life, I mean, their inner self, is also
like a great mystery.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Oh, absolutely, they're supposed to pay
attention.
Your heart, your mind, yoursoul, you should also pay
attention to yourself.
Yeah, oh, I think that is sospot on man, that is so spot on
man, that is so spot on.
Yeah, I, uh, I love hearingabout it and I think a lot of
people do.
I'm not gonna make likelife-altering decisions based on

(01:47:35):
this right um my day-to-day oranything like that.
I think it's fun to think aboutbecause it's like you know what
it is.
It's like it's when you thinkabout it.
It's like real life, marvelcomics stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
And you're living your life and then something
happens that makes you thinkabout it Interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
I wonder if it's happened to anybody else, I'm
content having a Skycam catchinga meteorite or something.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Be content with people that lose their leg or
something.
They're still content with whatthey have.
Yeah, that whole CERN.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
But that whole, that whole CERN, mandela, effect,
simulation theory and the factthat it all ties in together,
that is just so mind blowing.
And yeah, like I said, I'm notgoing to spend the rest of my
life like overly pondering that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
Exactly no, no, but like, just like hear about it.
Keep up with the news on it.
Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
Well, I don't.
Yeah.
If anything crazy happened forme, I don't think it would even
be reported.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
They're like yeah, we're not going to talk about it
.
People are going to go crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
They're going to revolt yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
People can't handle the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
I guess I let's just worry about what's going on
right now with the politics youknow.
Let's just hope.
Doge.
Department of Governmental.
Department of Governmental.
What was the E standing for?
Something America let's justhope that they do find a lot of

(01:49:05):
waste and the Trumpadministration does what they
say when they say, like we foundall this money, we're going to
give 20% back to the Americans.
And you know what?
People get their $200 check.
They can go buy groceries for aweek.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
That's a week of food .

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
That's a week of food .
It'll benefit people.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
Every week of food is a blessing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Yeah, when we get off tonight, are you going to go
look some of that stuff up?

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Every night I go through some crazy shit.
The web is crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Yeah, yeah, I totally get that.
I'm not going to get Alex Joneson anybody and, like I said,
I'm not going to run my life onit.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
I do search these videos up on YouTube, because
that's how I've noticed it,that's how I learned by watching
YouTube videos.
Because if I read this stuff,it's going to….
But if I watch some YouTubevideos of this, quantum
computers and the Switzerland….

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
Let me ask you something real fast.
Do you think it's possible thatthere are people that put these
videos up and they make it sofar-fetched and crazy that do
you think people would just putthis random video up just to
kind of mess with you?

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Yeah, man, there's a lot of videos that are.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
Just to mess with you ?
Just because they can.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
There's a lot of trolling videos out there like
there's a lot of trolling videos.
It's like yeah and that, uh,people like.
There's some that like, peoplebelieve you know and like and
you know it's not true, butpeople believe it in their own
simulation and their own kind ofdeal.
You know people believe in theflat earth and their own nelson
mandela kind of view.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Yeah, no know, people believe in the flat Earth and
their own Nelson Mandela kind ofdeal.
Yeah, no, you're right, they do, they do.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
You know, so like who knows who's right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
That's funny.
That's funny.
You know.
We're at a point in historywhere science is really good.
Science is really good.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
We're supposed to know the hard facts and we have
more confused people.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
We have more people that are convinced that Earth is
flat, that there's a wall ofice around this flat disk of
land we're flying on.
We have videos, pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
We have more stuff than ever in any time of history
.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
I don't know about the millions of years ago, 250
million years ago, but righthere, right now, we have video
and picture and science andevidence, and people are still
confused.
It's weird, isn't it?
It's interesting, I am.
What is that?
What is that?
Like I say, Grown-up, peopleGrown-up people, grown-up people

(01:51:43):
, and that is a really goodpoint, because, I'll say this
again, it's fun to talk about it, it's kind of fun, it's like
it's fun to be like oh man, it'skind of crazy.
Like CERN and simulations here,wow, what is that?
It's just fun to think about.
But then, like at the end ofthe day, when I wake up in the
morning, it's like Earth isstill round, we're still going

(01:52:05):
around the sun.
This table is made out of wood.
I can still feel it and touchit.
So I don't understand, like yousay, where that confusion comes
from.
It's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Simulation yeah, it kind of explains those.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
People have these different memories for some
reason, and they believe indifferent things for some reason
.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
Like me and my friends.
I I one friend.
I clearly picture him with theguitar a brand name and I'm like
you used to have the guitar andI played it.
He's like I never had theguitar and in my brain I used it
, but I don't know, you knowit's like a deja vu thing, yeah,
like he.
I'm convinced that he used tohave a certain guitar and he

(01:52:50):
says that he never had thatguitar.
Oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
Yeah, you know, what's funny is like I was
talking about this with a friendlast week and I was like, you
know, I was like and it was likeI dreamt.
I went to, I was at work allnight and then when I woke up it
was like it was just a dream.
But I'm tired and now I have togo to work.
It's kind of like that, that'slike the worst dream to have you

(01:53:15):
dreamt you had a full day atwork and when you wake up you're
already mentally exhausted andthen you have to go to work.
It's like dang.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
I tell him all the time dude, you had that morning
guitar, it's called a morningguitar.
He's like no, I didn't manmaybe, maybe, maybe you dreamt
it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
Yeah, you know, because some dreams are very
real all right yeah but you'retalking about the possibility of
somebody having a guitar.
You're not sitting there tryingto tell me that's early flat
stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
You know that it's, it's like, it's not like.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
We're saying like we're flat and we were implanted
here by aliens.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
There's levels to these dreams, yeah, yeah, yeah
To these dreams, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
Oh man, that's nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
There's levels to these dreams, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
Eddie, well, it was a good one man.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
For sure, man Always learn.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Yeah, I know I had to get a stamp late at night
thinking about it now, oh hell,yeah, man, hopefully I'll go to
sleep.
Tomorrow's another day I'mgoing to work.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
I have a dream, simulation about it.
Oh, there we go, there we go.
Maybe I'll dream that I couldmove continents or something,
something I know who knows rightI could move continents.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Marvel Comics.
Use my mind.
I was flying all over Earthyesterday.
Oh my God, You're not going tobelieve it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
That's nuts I flew to Egypt on top of the pyramid.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
Yeah, no, kidding, right, that's nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
The brain is an interesting computer.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
It is, the brain is an interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Is it an organ?

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
I guess you could call it an organ, but it's like
the main organ, I guess.
If you compared your brain to acomputer, maybe your organs are
like the peripherals.
You know how you connectspeakers to your computer?
Yeah, you connect the mouse andyou can connect your little
keyboard.
Peripherals yeah, a camera.
So if your brain is the mainhard drive, everything else is

(01:55:05):
the peripheral for the brain.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
One thing that I don't know see with the homeless
and stuff, but I don't know.
See with the homeless and stuff, but like I don't know where I
read it or somebody told me, butlike it must fucking suck to, I
don't know, I don't even knowhow to say it.
Know that you're, I don't know.
You're crazy, right, andeverybody thinks you're crazy.
But in your mind you're notcrazy.

(01:55:28):
But everybody thinks you'recrazy.
I your mind you're not crazy,but everybody thinks you're
crazy.
I don't know something like thatyeah, something like that, like
yeah, they, they, they.
They call you crazy becauseclearly, like you're like
homeless and just yelling shitout in the street yeah but
that's like a that's a certainhell.
You know, like you're you're inhell?

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
I don't know somebody said something like that which
is I kind of remember.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
But your brain could go that far, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
In your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
Let's say you're outside in the street yelling at
the air.
And you look at another person,you know, but no, no, in your
mind.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
you're contemplating life as being normal in your
mind.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
You're homeless, but maybe it seems normal, maybe not
.
You're yelling at somebody forsome reason, because something
seems very normal to you, butthe rest of the world sees you
as crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
Exactly Like they just throw you off, like eh.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
And it's weird to think that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
Or maybe you look at them crazy for following like
the rule, Like let's say, likethey're going to the store and
using money, and you're like, oh, they're so crazy so crazy
paper and you know like somesomebody worded something like
that, which is very interestinglike you're watching people
living their normal life umgoing to the store you're.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
You're the crazy guy and you're thinking everybody
else is crazy because they'reliving by these things.
Like you say, you're usingpaper to get a piece of meat,
whereas in your life you couldjust kind of go get what you
want, you go rest when you want,go sleep where you want, and it
seems very normal now to us.
To us, you seem like you'recrazy because you have nowhere
to go and you're just getting.

(01:57:02):
You're eating a rodent youfound on the street or whatever,
which is normal to you, but toto us it's like yeah, exactly
there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
It's like two different, two different minds.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
Mindsets, but yet in each of us, in our own mind,
it's very normal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you knowit's very applicable to like
cultures, like.
Oh, yeah, yeah, Cultures likeLike why is that person doing
that?
Like okay, there's culturesthat still eat horse.
Yeah, like a very fine cuisineand it's like you guys eat horse

(01:57:32):
.
Like do you not have any foodover there?
You guys are nuts, what.
You guys eat cow, like to us.
We're like thinking like dude,like who eats horse, but yet for
them they look at us and belike why are you guys paying so
much for food when there's somany things to eat Like horse?
Why are you guys paying so muchfor food when there's so many
things to eat Like horse?
Why wouldn't?

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
like what's wrong with you guys?
Why are you guys just eatingchicken and cow?

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
I mean, these horses are all delicious yeah you know
what I mean.
Yeah, it's like two completelydifferent perspectives.
Put some hot sauce on thishorse, my guy.
I know somebody that traveledto like Asia, oh, yeah, they eat
a lot of this shit and he saidthey bought a horse, have a big

(01:58:12):
feast just like Mexicans have afeast with a big pork or goat,
and I asked him did you eat anyof the horse?
he goes.
Well, yeah, I mean, I kind ofhad to.
It would have been rude not to.
So what was it?
He goes.
It's a cross between a coupleof things, but it's like meat
and it's prepared very well.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Went to Mexico City and there's like this big
building and inside there's alot of puestos inside the
building.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Like stands Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
One stand sells lion meat.
Another stand sells a bunch ofinsects.
Another stand sells, like allthese exotic, uh, animals, like
it's famous in mexico city thatpeople go there to try like,
like interesting scorpions, youknow, and and lion meat and lamb
meat I was listening to anarchaeologist, like on the joe
roger podcast yeah, that was inthe Amazon.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
And he says you know, he's there with the natives and
they're excited because theygot like some monkeys and
they're going to eat it.
And he says it's weird becauseyou look at a monkey and they're
getting ready to clean it andcook it and you're looking at an
animal with an arm, withfingers, and he said it was
weird.
He tried it, because he's like,yeah, they made it, I wanted to

(01:59:31):
try it, it was different.
But at the same time, it's likethis thing is so closely
related to us because it waskind of weird.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Would you try a lion?

Speaker 1 (01:59:40):
I would try a lion.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
They say it's not even that good.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
I've had alligator and crocodile.
It's good.
I had one that was preparedlike in meatballs.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
It was so good, it was so stupid good well, of
course it's really close relatedto like what is like in joe
rogan.
He's always like hunting townelk or russus and he's eating
the meat because it has like alot of protein and, yeah, a lot
of energy in the meat, yeah so Iwould say like same thing with
the horses right like the horsemeat probably has a lot of
protein.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
I would imagine Like lean meat Some energy to it
because they're big animals.
Oh yeah, well, think about likebear.
I would love to try bear once.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
I think they have bear meat in that?

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
That would be interesting.
I was coming back from Mexicoonce it's funny you say that
because we were waiting in theline to come across the bridge
the drive-thru bridge andthere's ladies walking by
selling stuff and I bought abottle of tequila that has like
a huge scorpion in it.
My friend was like are yougoing to drink it?
I was like maybe not, I don'tknow, I don't feel the need to.

(02:00:45):
But if we ever get crazy, wewill.
But but when they're there theyhad like these little fish that
they smoke and they.
And then she had like a anotherlittle.
I remember it was like a bag ora bucket of like crickets and I
don't know like smoke or friedwhatever.
My friend was like my friend,she goes yeah, you should try
them.
You know you try everything.

(02:01:05):
And I was like all right, likeit didn't taste bad, they're
seasoned downtown Juarez.
They sell them in bags for 5pesos yeah, 5 pesos is like a
quarter, I think like 10.
No, no, $20 is like $20 is like$5.
$20 pesos is $1 $200 pesos is$10.

(02:01:27):
Okay, yeah, so that means 20 isyes, 200 pesos is $10.
Okay, yeah, so 20,.
So that means 20 is one.
So 10 pesos is 50 cents.
So, yeah, five pesos is like aquarter.
You can get a big bag of themand they're seasoned really well
.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
Yeah, it's really good and they're fried or
whatever.
Yeah, and they're crunchy.
And they're protein.
I am protein.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
Yeah, but we live in a country.

Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
It's weird here in Mexico.
No, it's normal here, but uphere we don't eat.

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
And you look at the map and it's just two different
colors, those countries, they'reconnected.
They're both connected.
But yeah, where we're at onthis map, we're like you eat
insects.
And then where they're at onthe map, they're like well, if
you're hungry, why wouldn't you?
They're good, they're anabundance.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
Oh yeah, sex.
And then where they're at onthe map, they're like well, if
you're hungry, why wouldn't you?
They're there, they're anabundance.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's kind of weird to stink.
Anyway, I'm open to try it alltoo.
It's just like when I eat weirdseafood stuff, squid stuff and
all that?

Speaker 2 (02:02:25):
Where did your friend travel to?
Where are they?
Are they monkeys?
Was it down here?
No, no.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
There was like a I was actually listening to that
in like a Joe Rogan, anarchaeologist in the Amazon.
However, my friend, the onethat ate horse, was up here up
in like Kazakhstan or somethinglike that, and he said it was
like a normal thing and theymade a big deal.
Big and they made a big deal.
It was a big event, plenty offood for everybody and it was
prepared really well.
He said why not try it whileyou're there?

(02:02:52):
And he wore some of thetraditional clothes and I was
like I was all making fun of him.
He was like well, it'straditional.
They gave it to me.
What am I going to do?
I was like no, I get it Righton.
Good for you.
The world man I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
Oh, my God Well man and everybody in it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
It was good.
All right, here's the plan.
We're going to come up with atopic in a week and a half or so
.
Let's bounce around some ideasand we'll come up with a topic
and you kind of look up somestuff, I'll look up some stuff
on it, but let's figure out somethings.
Yeah, let's figure out somethings.
Yeah, let's figure out what ourtopic's going to be and just
when it comes to, you be likehey, let's talk about this.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
All right, cool man, you have a good night.
Good night, cool.
Thanks everyone.
Bye, that's cool man.

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