The Mark & Jeanette Show: Ep 46 Battling Urban Violence and Reflecting on Local Community in a Small Town: Las Cruces

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Flies might have like an important place to pay for.
Flies may have like animportant part in the
environment as a whole.
Immunity Maybe, I don't know.
I mean they spread the yellowfever.
They don't spread like malaria,but Bacteria that you might not
be exposed to regularly when itthrows up on your food.

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Maybe like decomposition, Idon't know.
But Because you know that'swhat it does when it lands on
your food, right, it vomits.
Yeah, I've heard you know what.
Let me be honest, I believe youthey're disgusting.
Like fly lands on my food, I'mlike, oh, now it tastes really
good.
Do cockroaches have a place in?
Yeah, I think they all do interms of like.

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I think they all do in terms oflike, uh, um, I think they all
do in terms of, like you know,decomposition of what's out
there in the world, right, likethey all have their place, but,
uh, they're still gross.
Yeah, do you know?
Um, let me think here.
Okay, first of all, there's afly, a fly like a bot fly, yeah,
that lays its larva in you andit burrows in you, yeah, and

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then, like I guess, once thelarva's ready, just fly, comes
out of your belly, or somethingLike how gross is that Frigging
fly growing in you?
The parasite?
Oh, we're live.
Now that we're talking aboutflies, that's gross, like I mean
, I'm thankful that we live in apart of the world where we
don't have to deal with that,but, sweet baby Jesus, I mean,
we got a good amount of horseflies here.

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They bite but, I don't thinkI've ever had like a fly bite me
where I'm like, ah yeah.
But I can imagine like lookingdown and seeing like a boil on
my arm and being like, oh,there's a fly under my flesh,
okay, rolly pulleys.
And being like, oh, there's afly under my flesh, okay,
roly-polies.
Roly-polies have differentnames.
They're pill bugs, roly-polies,wood lice, and there's another

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name but a roly-poly right,salbug, I don't know.
Anyways.
So they're gross, they urinatethrough the shells.
They're like more related tolike a lobster, I think.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Or something like that.
Really, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
And they're really good because they're.
They decompose everything, likethat's their thing.
They like eat all sorts oflittle crap.
So they're supposed to be superefficient so they can eat stuff
with their mouth.
They're just chomping awayLittle roly-poly little kids.
You get them, you play withthem.
They're cute, yeah.

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So they can also eat throughthe butt.
What?
Yeah, it's like a South Parkepisode, yeah.
And then once they eat and theydefecate and they make
excrement, then they'll eat thatexcrement again, just to ensure
they get all the nutrition outof their own excrement.

(02:46):
Get new food, man.
What the Like?
Roly polies?
No, they're more gross than Ithought.
Once you start hearing aboutall that stuff and I want to say
that they urinate through theirshells or something like that,
yeah, they're nasty.
Once you start hearing all that, that's gross, right, I used to
want to play with them.
Now I want to kill them.
Yeah, you get up and you make alittle ball, you kind of throw

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them at each other and all that.
They're all rolling aroundtheir own excrement, eating it,
peeing through their shell,eating through their butt.
That was a public serviceannouncement for them.
You are welcome world.
It's kind of crazy.
They've been around forever too.
They'll probably be hereforever, just like cockroaches.
Can't nuke them, they're toosmall, I know.

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They'll just be undergroundsomewhere.
They'll roll up as soon as thatshit drops.
I know right, or maybe theradiation doesn't affect them, I
don't know, maybe the radiationwill affect them.
And then when we come out ofthe caves in a thousand years
because we nuked the wholeplanet there's going to be like
these 10-story roly-polies justrolling around from the
radiation Starship polies, Iknow right.
Yeah, like the beetle from thebug planet, and it'll just be a

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roly-poly just eating everybody.
God bless it.
Love that movie, dude.
So today is March 23rd, sunday,march 23rd.
A lot of stuff happened, man.
So for our five viewers thatlistened to us, first of all,
let's just say this Having Grokwith us, holy smokes, unhinged,

(04:16):
I haven't stopped thinking abouther.
Man, that was nuts, I mean.
She just loved you, yeah, Imean, and then, like our closing
last time, I faded out and Ileft that playing.
So if you kept on listening,she just goes off the wall.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
That was cool.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
That was cool.
A lot of stuff happened thisweekend.
I like to read out of this book, though Every time I yeah, it's
kind of a cool book.
So, today's March 23rd, are youa Pisces?
Is it your birthday this month?
Aquarius, january 25th.
That's why we get along.
I'm Pisces, you're Aquarius.
We're both water, that's right.

(04:52):
Here's to the water people.
My birthday just passed.
I'm an old man, my buddy'sbirthday tomorrow.
Good, buddy passed awaytomorrow too.
So like he passed away twoyears ago now.
So it's like you know, to yourfriends Cheers, he passed away
two years ago now.
So it's like you know, to yourfriends, cheers, absolutely
Cheers To the homies, to thehomies, right, okay.
So on March 23rd, some of thisis just like really old.

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It isn't really, I don't know,not crazy about, but I still
kind of look at it.
In 1540, henry VIII completeshis dissolution of the Abbeys.
I guess that's where theyseparate from the Catholic
Church.
Okay, so he completesdissolution of the Abbeys.
Okay, that's fair.
1775, oh, okay, here's a goodone.

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1775, on this day, 1775, acouple hundred years ago, 150
years ago or so, patrick Henrydeclares give me liberty or give
me death.
Man, he delivered.
Henry delivered a speech at thesecond virginia convention of
richmond during the debate overwhether virginia should send

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troops to join the revolutionarywar effort.
Following the fire speech,delegates convention named
edward carrington was listeningto the speech outside the
convention and later requestedto be buried where he had heard
it, and in 1810 he was he was.
The immediate effect of thespeech was the passage of the of
an amendment by the conventiondeclaring the american colonies

(06:17):
to be independent of greatbritain.
Henry of the point wasappointed to lead the effort to
raise militia to join the war.
The phrase has become an iconicsymbol of American
Revolutionary War.
Patrick Henry would go on to bethe first governor of Virginia
following the war.
Wow, on this day, I mean whowould have thought?
Right On this day in 1806,lewis and Clark began their

(06:40):
journey home.
They had they were explored fromSt Louis across the territory,
acquired the Louisiana Perchesover the Continental Divide West
Coast.
Over the previous two yearstheir journey home was faster,
aided by the knowledge of theColumbia and Missouri Rivers,
and they reached St Louis inSeptember of that year.
All right, so today theystarted going home.

(07:02):
They said screw this, we'regoing home.
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
They said screw this, we'regoing home.
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
Fuck these grizzlies.
Could you imagine unconqueredAmerica?
Just grizzlies everywhere,grizzlies and wolves yeah.
Yeah, coyotes, everything wantsto kill you Like if you weren't
like a man's man and the nativesyeah, and the natives.
Like if you had a skateboardyou're screwed.
Like.
If you were like a man's man,like Grizzly you know, grizzly

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Adams like Shotgun Dude, likewearing like a bear blanket over
you, like you show up with abear blanket with his head and
everything.
You'd be like that man Dude,right Big old girly, burly beard
I was picturing sitting in atavern like a patio or somewhere

(07:47):
, and then some dude walks inwith the bearskin.
Yeah, I know right, have a seat,sir.
Let me buy you the first beerand a whiskey and a sarsaparilla
.
That guy's mad, and you knowthe thing about a mountain man
like that.
They probably have so littlecontact with people.
The way they speak is verystoic, very Spartan, so they
don't have a lot to say.

(08:07):
So you'd be saying this andthat and this, and then they
would just say like a one wordphrase stupid.
Y'all sound like a bunch ofwomen grazily grazily and
everybody would be like yepexactly, yes, sir, thank you.
Oh my god.
Okay, yep, exactly yes, sir,thank you.
Oh my God.
Okay, 1857.
The first safety elevator isinstalled in New York City.

(08:31):
What year?
1857.
Damn, that's early.
The safety elevator wasdesigned by Alicia Otis, founder
of the Otis Elevator Company.
So the safety?
Because, okay, otis installed abraking mechanism on the
elevator that would engage ifthe hoist cable snapped.
Okay, the first.

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So I'm assuming in 1857,there's elevators in New York,
but if the cable snapped on themit's like whoa breathe.
So I'm assuming there's a bunchof elevators, but the cable
snapped.
It's like bye, felicia.
But thanks to Alicia Otis andOtis Elevator Company in 1857,
now they had brakes and youwouldn't just A little more of a

(09:22):
pulley system with a backuppulley, maybe something like
that?
Right, what do we know?
Okay, 1909, theodore Rooseveltgoes on his famous Safari in
Africa, sponsored by theSmithsonian Institute.
Oh, wow, he went through asafari Through present day Kenya
, congo and Sudan, the Congo,darkland, yeah, wow, silverback

(09:44):
gorillas, silverback gorillas,and Teddy was there.
Let's see.
1940, the Lahore Resolution ispassed.
I don't know what that is.
Resolution called for anindependent state in the
homeland for Muslims to beestablished in British India.
It later formed the basis forthe partition of India in 1947,
established Islamic Republic ofPakistan.

(10:05):
Okay, so that's after World WarII?
I think maybe.
Yeah, it was because Pakistanwasn't established until the 30s
.
Well, no, no, pakistan, thebasis of the partition of India
in 1947.
Okay, so it was the area ofIndia.
Yeah, which is where Pakistan is.
Well, pakistan is separatedfrom India because it was all

(10:26):
one country at one point.
Okay, where was that one?
The Lahore Resolution passed in1940 and it formed the basis
for the partition of India in1947.
47.
Yeah, way before our time.
Okay, 1965.
Oh, gus Grisham and John Younglift off in Gemini 3, the first
manned mission of the Geminiprogram, the first mission to

(10:48):
carry more than one Americanastronaut.
You know we don't talk aboutthat, but like, really important
, the first time you can getlike two people in space at a
time, or three people.
You know it's like big steps.
They did it very little babysteps to get people into space.
Never even thought of that.
Yeah, like, how important wouldthat be?
Like they're launching rockets,then they launch rockets with

(11:09):
animals and then you take thething where you launch rockets
with one human and it's like allright, can we do a couple of
people and then return them andthen kind of lay the foundation
for, like, the Apollo missionsand all that, yeah, so yeah, you
don't think of that, okay.
2001, today, yeah, so yeah, youdon't think of that.
Okay, 2001, today, 2001, mer isscrapped and in control.
De-orbit, the Russian spacestation enter earth atmosphere

(11:32):
in three stages, eventuallybreaking up over Fiji in the
southern pacific ocean, alright,and then 2003, the battle of
Nasiriyah Nasiriyah begins inIraq.
The first major battle in theinvasion of Iraqiriyah Nasiriyah
begins in Iraq.
The first major battle in theinvasion of Iraq In private
first class.
Jessica Lynch was capturedduring it, becoming the first

(11:53):
American prisoner of war.
She's from our neighborhood,from El Paso.
I didn't realize she was fromhere, she was either from here
or stationed here.
Okay, that rings a bell.
I think she was stationed in.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Fort.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Bliss so, and I could be wrong, but, okay, she was
rescued by special forces thefollowing week.
Okay, and that was March 23rd,god.
It's such a cool book though.
I love it Very cool.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Thanks, Jeanette.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Thank you, jeanette.
Jeanette's like okay.
Now I can just hit pause andmove on to the next podcast.
You know what?
You better watch the whole show, dude.
So God, I feel like so much hasgone on.
Man, it's just been a crazyweek.
It's been a crazy week and Ilike had all sorts of stuff like
I was thinking about, thinkingabout like AI Grok, thinking

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about.
There's this general I've beenreading about.
Crazy also, I have to see if I,if I have my notes on him still
, but then okay, so people mayor may not pick this up by now.
We're from southern new mexico.
New mexico, big state, bigskies, but uh, um, population
like one per every square.

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I mean no, no, I mean ourcounty has.
Our county, which is a bigcounty, only has like 100 000
people, maybe 120 000.
I mean that's a sub size ofsuburb in new york.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, like prettypeaceful, like, uh, new mexico
is really insulated from therest of the united states in the
sense that when there's aneconomy slowdown or anything

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goes on, we don't feel it rightaway or we don't feel it to the
degree like big cities.
Do you know?
The home crisis around thecountry was really big and it is
here too but maybe not to thesame degree Very deep Hispanic
roots.
You've got a huge Hispanic,mexican, mexican-american

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population, the old-timers youthink about the old-timers very
patriotic people, very religiouspeople.
They had just your traditionalMexican town, but it's like a
big Mexican town.
Very successful too.
Just your traditional Mexicantown, but it's like a big
Mexican town, yeah, verysuccessful too.
Like Las Cruces people don'trealize is people that worked at

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White Sands during World War IItesting missiles and bombs, the
A-bomb.
They probably lived If theydidn't live in Alamogordo, which
was like a little hole in thewall.
They lived here because we'reonly like 45 minutes from there,
right, you know.
Like Tomba there, right, youknow.
And like Tombaugh, tombaugh,yeah, tombaugh, I mean, one of
the greatest astronomers, isfrom here, you know, and we're

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just a stone's throw from FortBliss, one of the largest
military stations in the country, I mean.
Then you have Juarez, mexico, Imean.
So there's a lot.
The Trinity site, that's right.
Mesilla, where the GadsdenPurchase was signed Yep, that's
right.
So there's a lot of coolhistory.
Fort Seldon here is where theBuffalo Soldiers were stationed.

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Pancho Villa lived here.
Billy the Kid's gone throughhere many times.
Yep, there's a mountain rangecalled the Rebolitos and there's
supposed to be like a littleblack peak there called it's not
Bishop's Cap.
I don't think it's calledKettle Top or something like
that Kettle Top or Bishop's Cap,because I know on the Oregon
there's one called Sugarloaf,but that's a white peak, but

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over here there's a little blackone and they say, if you go
looking there you can see wherebilly the kid like, kid like,
carved his name into the rocks.
Oh, is that like a little pastoregon?
No, under reba lito's is, um,that side of town over there.
You know the mountain rangethat goes on the other side of
the river, yeah, yeah, yeah soapparently there's a cavern or
like a cave that he would hidein.
When you go up 70 past oregon,it's uh like has a door and

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everything that you just, yeah,there's a door there.
And then the other littlemountain range right there
between those ones, the Robledosand the Oregon Mountains, then
there's the Donianas and there'scaves there too.
Where they would, the Indiansused it, but he did too, to get
away from law officials or thecavalry.
I've heard I don't know if it'strue or not that Geronimo hid

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there for a bit.
Yeah, apparently Geronimo hidthere as well.
Yeah, or he would use it to getaway from the Calvary.
Again, the Indians would rideeast, cross the Oregon, cross
the White Sands, and that waslike a big thing for it back
then on horseback.
You didn't cross White Sandsbecause there's no water unless

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you knew where it was, at whichthe Indians knew the Camino de
Muerte.
You know you just didn't makethat pass unless you were
prepared.
You know so a lot of goodhistory here in this area, the
San Luis Obispo mountains andall that stuff.
So, and I'm trying to lay thisframework because people can
relate to it.
If you're from a small town,you know small town vibes, good

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people and all that stuff.
So this past weekend, man,things just went crazy.
Like I don't even know where tostart.
I don't even know how itstarted.
So the speculation right now isgangs.
It was gang related.
Are they saying gang related?
I've heard talk of that.
That's more on the rumor millat this point.
But yeah, the cops arrested afourth suspect today.

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Really, I heard two people werein custody.
So what happened?
There was a park it's calledYoung's Park here.
It's a little lake there.
People go there walking around.
It's a nice place during theday to do stuff at.
We have Renaissance Fairs there.
Renaissance Fairs, yeah, allsorts of stuff Like throughout
the year, go on there.
These two, like all summers,walk there.
I'd say it's our main park.
Honestly, I think it is.
I think more people do morethings there than anywhere, or

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something I've heard for atleast a few weeks, at least for
a few weeks.
Well, this it was Friday night,yeah, because I heard about
Saturday morning I was going toa funeral, fall plays, I was
going to a funeral and they'retalking about this.
But Friday night there was acar show and young kids,
teenagers, teenagers, yeah, andthey I don't know, somebody

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pulled the gun up like an AR andthen somebody else pulled
something and there's peoplewalking around with guns like
nothing and then who knows?
I mean, I don't know.
I guess we'll find out as timegoes on, but were people walking
around showing off or were theytrying to intimidate others?
My theory from what the footagelooks like, because the footage

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or the images with the kid withthe AR, and his homie.
So they weren't involved and,mind you, it was a nice AR too,
like, if you look at it, it hadlike the rails and everything on
there.
It like looked nice Really,yeah.
So apparently they werevisiting from Deming and they
would come into town and do thatstuff and Deming another
Damning another small town, evensmaller, where the weapons laws

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are going to be the brandishing.
It's probably going to be morelikely used in places like in El
Maguro there at TRC, becauseit's not really a big city thing
, wouldn't you say?
I mean, I know people do carryhere that we see them, but I've
never really seen other thanprotests where someone's
brandishing a rifle like that.
I've never seen that here Iprotest when someone's
brandishing a rifle like that.
I've never seen that here.
There I really haven't seenpeople brandish weapons, like

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semi-automatic weapons, justwalking around like nothing.
That's a big city thing.
That's where I usually see that, yeah, like I'm.
I just I'm saying like the gunacceptance.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, is a little bigger or Well.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
I think New Mexico is like we're a southern state.
It's a southern state and we'reright next door to Texas and
gun culture, hunting, everything.
Arizona on the other side Veryaccepted, not a big deal.
A lot of people go to huntersafety.
It's just weird that somerandom kids pull up and start

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walking around with guns.
I bet you what they were doingwas like.
For the last few weeks peoplewere like, yeah, we got guns.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
We're holding guns, they talk trash Talk, trash to
the next guy?
Not even that.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
It could have been like acting like you're in a
music video, you know, actinglike you're the big badass
because, oh, like, don't fuckwith me because I'll kill you,
yeah, yeah, and it seems likesomeone got to talking.
I'm sure this wasn't the firstnight where people were talking
shit to each other.
Things usually escalate.
Oh yeah, there's fear that itcould escalate and then if now
and then if you know it's goingto go on again next week a car

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show, then you come back.
After you talk trash, yeah, youbring a gun.
And so the two guys that gotarrested, first their brothers,
who actually lived across thestreet from there.
So yeah, just thinking justtheoretically.
They don't have cars, they'repoor kids who live in the
neighborhood nearby, just walkover and they probably get
clowned on that.
They don't have vehicles or theyprobably feel a certain type of

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way their own insecuritiesspilled out.
They get angry with someoneelse oh, you want to fuck with
my brother.
The other dude does the samething and unfortunately it seems
like, yeah, there's foursuspects right now.
They talk trash.
So, overall, so there's ashooting and there's videos of
the shooting, like Guns goingoff, but not of the shooter, not

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of the shooter, but you havepeople with the videos, yeah,
and like tons of rounds goingoff In a short amount of time,
and then, uh, three people werekilled.
You can only imagine what thatlooks like to a viewer in like
washington or you're in chicago,you're like damn, it's popping
off down there yeah, no kidding,like you hear all that and then
people running and all that and17 people hit, and that I I

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understood there was an updatefrom um, so it was 15 injured,
three dead dead, so it was 18people hit, oh, 18.
And 15 injured was the lastnumber that I heard, so 18
people got hit.
One of them, from what Iunderstand, shot right in the
head, like executed on sightyeah, I heard about that.
So I mean that's just To saythat it was just like executed,

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like it probably was the firstone to go, man, like probably
one of the ones.
I was talking, like thinkingabout the way things go down,
like oh yeah, like right infront.
So I wonder how many people got.
Who got injured were eitheraffiliates of the situation or
people who were just standingbehind those people.
Unfortunately, it's just stupid,man, it is just stupid.

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So I'm gonna try to capturethis and then I'll um.
Either I'll capture on on hereor I'll capture it on my iPad.
But somebody sent me thisupdate on TikTok.
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
This news conference is to give an update on a mass
casualty incident mass shootingthat occurred last night, on
3-21-2025, at Young Park, whichwas located at 1905 Nevada
Avenue.
There was an unsanctioned carshow at the park prior to the
shooting.
The call for the gunshotvictims came in at approximately
10 10 pm, again on 321 2025.

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The investigation so farreveals that there is an
altercation between two groupsof people and that altercation
escalated to gunfire betweenboth groups.
Several other people were alsoinjured in the crossfire.
Officers arrived on the sceneand began treating people
immediately.
While trying to deal with thechaos of that situation,
bystanders, some of them, hadalready started administering

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treatment.
Las Cruces Fire arrived veryquickly and they began
immediately rendering aid,despite the fact that the scene
was not secure yet thing.
Oscars fire chief michaeldaniel will give a quick summary
here in a minute of thetreatment that was provided and
some of the transport, but as ofright now, there are 15 people

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that are injured and three thathave passed away.
This is a huge crime scene witha lot of moving parts.
It will take time to process itthoroughly and reopen
everything.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
So that update was on the New York Post.
What time was that on there?
This was, I don't know.
Did it tell me the time on here?
It should be updated or posted.
I don't know this is from.
I don't know when this wasposted, either way.
Marty, I am not that smart,Artie.
I doubt that.
It's interesting that he saidunsanctioned, because

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unsanctioned there's no security.
There's no security, there's nopermit, no, nothing, there's no
police presence.
It's been going on for a while.
Keep that in mind.
So they were just saying we'regoing to get together, we're
going to do this car show, we'regoing to go there, we're going
to do this, and because of that,there's no security and again,
there's no police presence.
And we know that policepresence does keep people in

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check, but God bless a bunch ofkids.
I mean, it does seem like asituation that went a little.
No one was keeping an eye on it.
And here's the thing.
So I saw that video of thisteenager 17, right, I'm
gathering 17.
And he's brandishing an AR-15.

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Yeah, him and his friend wereholding it at some point.
Yeah, at a park.
It's like okay.
So I'm going to gather thatyour average 17-year-old kid, I
mean to save enough money to buya nice AR, much less to go buy
one.
I don't think a 17-year-old canbuy one hands down without

(25:02):
parental consent.
I don't know, damn yeah.
I don't know, damn yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I mean that might be a question for Grok, because you
know I really enjoyed usingGrok.
Grok seems like a really nicehelp.
I think she's great.
Hi Ara, real quick question Cana 17-year-old buy a gun?

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Hi there.
Since it's just you and mechatting, I'll keep it simple.
In the US, federal law says youhave to be 21 to buy a handgun
from a licensed dealer, but forrifles or shotguns, 18 is the
minimum.
Some states have stricter rules, though, and since I don't have
the latest on every state, itdid depend on where you are.
Private sales might bedifferent too, but that's a

(25:47):
whole other gray area.
Does that help?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
That helps Great, thank you.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Glad I could help Anything.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Dude, it's just nice having somebody that can answer
questions like that.
But okay so, rifles 18, butthese kids weren't even 18.
But okay so, rifles 18, butthese kids weren't even 18.
So I mean, like I'm just tryingto understand like, do the
parents know their kids havethese ARs?
Like, do the parents be?
Like, are they going to be like, hey, I'm going to go to the
car show, I'm going to take myassault rifle too?

(26:17):
Absolutely not, no way.
There's no way they know.
So the question is where didthe kids get the guns from?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, what did the parents know?
And they're 17.
Yeah, they're going to getcharged.
I wouldn't be surprised if theydidn't get charged as an adult.

(26:39):
Okay, so have you heard?

Speaker 2 (26:43):
anything on that.
So it's two different cases.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I hear a lot of people talking about the four
suspects who got arrested.
The kids who were seen on thosephotos were not involved in the
shooting at all.
They might be looking at othercharges independently.
I'm sure a detective waslooking at that already on their
own, while the cops did areally good job of figuring out
who the two shooters thebrothers were and the other four

(27:05):
.
So from what I understand, Ibelieve the shooters are 19, 17,
and then there's a 16 andpossibly a 15-year-old that got
arrested Might be the fourthperson, I believe he's 15.
So I mean, I'm sure there's lawsabout shooting guns in the city
and a park.
Again, were these guns like?

(27:29):
Did you buy it from a store?
Did your parents buy them?
Were they your parents' guns?
Did you steal them?
Were they illegal Like?
There's so many like questions,because now you're talking
about federal laws, right inregards to like gun laws, but
then you have the matter of the.
So you had what?
18 total, three dead, 15 hit,and so you could theoretically

(27:53):
say 15 charges of attemptedmurder, yep, three charges of
murder, and then, depending onwho shot what, what their roles
were, do you know?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
So yeah, I guess, legally speaking, attempted.
If everyone was hit in thetorso, if it's leg or arm shot,
who knows, Like I don't knowwhat the lawyer would be able to
get rid of that.
Should I try to get this thing?
I know there's like this flybuzzing around.
Artie's got the.
I don't know if I have anothersquare battery for that, but
there's been this fly goingaround and you know, when

(28:26):
there's one annoying fly, that'sit, Like it's it Is that dying.
No, that means it's on.
So we have this nice littlezappy fly squatter, but we're
all just sitting here like, okay, we're going to get this little
son of a gun.
It'll pop up, I'll get him.
Dude, you zap and it falls onyour cheek.
I hope not, okay.
Quick question, give me a quickfix.
Have you ever like, maybe inthe middle of the night, you go

(28:50):
for a drink of water orsomething?
You have a cup there orsomething and there's a fly in
your drink.
Oh, do you drink?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
a fly?
Oh, I have.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I have.
I always have like cans ofbangs and all that and I try to
keep like something on to keepthem covered.
But I remember one day I wokeup and I just started drinking
one and I was like the hell isthat?
And I go and I pull it out ofmy mouth and I go, oh, it's a
fucking fly.
This is a fly episode.
Man, if anything, your immunesystem is strong there's a

(29:18):
silver lining oh, my god and Iremember I played it off.
Like I hate flies all the time,it's okay.
Is that not the first flyyou've eaten?
I cannot answer that honestly,because I just don't recount,
but I cannot.
I don't want to say a definiteno or yes.
You know what I mean.
So, okay, you've heardstatistics, like in your sleep,

(29:42):
over the course of your life.
They say you eat something like80 spiders over the course of
your life.
They say you eat something like80 spiders over the course of
your life.
I've heard that, but I feellike it's an urban legend.
I don't know, like, like I knowbecause.
But you think about, like, howmany times have you ever woken
up because there was like amosquito or something?
Oh yeah, like buzzing aroundyour ear?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
That's happened.
Yeah, so you know.
So you're snoring or breathing.
Like a spider just crawled up onyour bed, like you're like
drooling on your bed and it justkind of like slowly makes its
way towards you and you wouldn'tknow the difference.
Yeah, or your beard, like itjust kind of gets in there and
you know, spiders probably stepso lightly.
I mean it's possible because Iremember one time I was like

(30:24):
nine in Vado at my grandparents'house out in the farmland and I
took a nap it was like Saturdayat 10 in the morning Took a nap
, woke up and I remember justfeeling my blanket.
I don't know what woke me up.
And I opened my eyes and there'sa fucking caterpillar looking
right at me A caterpillar.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, I smacked that fucker.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
No joke I killed him, my buddy Mike from Philadelphia
.
He was crashed out.
Him and his chick were livingwith each other and I didn't
hear about this until like thenext day.
I was like, hey, where were youat yesterday?
He goes.
I had to go to the hospital.
I was like what do you mean?
You went to the hospital.
What happened?
He goes.
I got pricked by a scorpion.

(31:05):
I'm like, oh, that sucks.
You're like what the hell areyou doing with a scorpion?
How did that happen?
He goes.
No, I was asleep.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I was like what.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Fuck that scorpion, dude.
And he says the blanket washanging off the bed or something
and it crawled up and from himmoving or something, it like
stung him and he said it waslike the most horrible pain.
Dude, imagine waking up and sawlike a scorpion on your leg,
like what the hell?
Right, like I know, like yeah,that was so close.

(31:36):
I know.
So that's got to be like theworst thing in the world.
So when I lived in a towncalled Las Lunas it was just
south of Albuquerque and it's asubdivision at the edge of the
desert and I kid you, not man,like three, what are probably
the three worst insects youcould see in your home?
Three Millipede or centipede,centipede okay, take that

(31:58):
Scorpion, scorpion, tarantula,okay.
So in my house daily there werescorpions, centipedes, and then
at night, like when I'd havelike the lights on jerusalem,
crickets oh, they're loud, huh,they're loud, they're real gross
to look like.
Once one of the big black ones,yeah, once I once I started
like researching them.

(32:18):
They're actually pretty harmlessoh yeah, they don't bite you or
do anything they'll just jumpor eat your fucking clothes yeah
, they're like gross but holysmokes.
So I had my dog, kennels, and Ilived in this house a lot.
So I'd come home late at nightor wake up in the morning always
a centipede or a scorpion onthe floor everywhere, like what

(32:42):
the hell?
I'd buy like the medicines forscorpion and centipedes because
your regular raid won't killthem, so you have to get like um
medicine specifically for them.
Devil's bug bro.
So like, oh, it was like rightin your face, I know.
So, okay, I need you to writethis down.
Okay, get a salt gun, bro.
You ever seen those salt guns?
Oh, yeah, I have this thingmight be dead bro.

(33:05):
No, I don't think so.
Let me see If I it's dead.
Oh, so there's just enough forthe.
I'm going to flip the batteriesaround and see what happens,
okay.
So, yeah, we're going to get asalt gun, yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Imagine doing that.
So okay.
So my bed, because I remembermy story from my friend Mike.
So whenever I would move akennel like the dog kennel, and
the kennels I had were like theplastic ones that had a big lip
on them.
So whenever I would move a,kennel always centipedes

(33:41):
underneath the kennels.
No, that shit's dead.
I always wondered about that.
They're double A's.
Yeah, I do.
We can get some here in alittle bit.
I'm going to hit him, I know.
Okay.
So I got a flashlight Maybe thesize of your vape there, and it
was a black light so I kept itby my bed.
So whenever I woke up at nightI'd shine the black light and

(34:01):
the scorpions have like a whitegreenish glow at night, really
Like in a black light, and thescorpions have like a white
greenish glow at night Really.
Like in a black light they wouldlike glow.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
So I would do that to spot them at night and make
sure.
Like when I was stepping down,then it terrified me to think of
these insects getting in my bed.
So what I did is I had thesecrates and they were like
shipping crates.
They were about, like you know,two feet deep, a foot and a
half maybe something like that,and they had a real smooth
plastic side.

(34:29):
So I got about six of them andI put them all underneath my bed
and I put my bed on top of it,so that way if a centipede or a
scorpion was going to climb up,they would have a challenge
getting up the smooth side of it.
That's smart.
And then, that way, if myblanket fell, if it fell, it's
going to fall, because the bedwas really high off the ground.

(34:49):
So I had to hop to get on mybed because, like you were
really concerned about this,dude, I was really asleep over
it.
How did you get the bed so high?
Well, I put it on the boxes,those shipping boxes On those
boxes.
Yeah, because I turned themupside down.
Um, these, they're the, they'rethe kind of, they're the kind
of tote box you use for shipping, and then they have the lids
that you know kind of fold, foldin, like so, yeah and so and

(35:12):
like I say the, the the outsideof them is very smooth plastic.
Those are pretty sturdy.
Yeah, then I put six of them andI put and in the middle and, um
, I never had a an issue withthem going in my bed, but like,
even with like my laundry, I wasalways like, okay, like I take
my shirt off, I'm not gonnathrow it on the ground, like my

(35:33):
shoes.
I always kept my shoes like onon top of like furniture or
something.
That was like, if I'm gonnawear that, I'm not gonna.
You know, yeah, make yourself,yeah, put my foot, my foot, in
the shoe with a scorpion orsomething.
It sucked, it really sucked.
Like nothing I could do, couldever get rid of them, like they
were always there.
Was the concern based on thatone story that you heard yeah, I

(35:55):
don't blame you, man.
And then you know whateverybody says about centipedes.
They get on you.
They just like Is that true?
I don't know that they'll dig,like their legs into you and
that they don't, they're notnecessarily poisonous, but
they're filthy, and that if theybite you or they get their legs
dig into you Get infected.
You get infected.
Then once they get into you,it's hard to get them off.

(36:16):
You gotta burn them off, orwhat.
Burn them off or get scissorsand cut their legs to get them
to come off.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Jesus, oh to get them to come off Jesus.
Oh, I know right.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Like ugh, like yeah, I'm getting a blowtorch.
Yeah, like so, okay.
So then that's when I hadSpartacus to pit my pit bull and
he didn't really seem to haveany issues with him, but God,
you always see him everywhere.
So the neighbor across thestreet, I'd always go help him.
So one day he comes and hebrings me over some clam chowder
.
He says, hey, I made some NewEngland clam chowder homemade,
we're from out east.

(36:47):
I was like, all right, cool, soI eat it and I fall asleep on
my recliner because I'll sleep.
I'm terrified to sleep onanything.
So I slept on my recliner and Ididn't realize it, I left the
bowl on the kitchen counter andmy pit bull gets it.
And you know the pit bulls, theyhave like really wrinkly skin,
yeah.
So I think I fell asleep in theafternoon or something.

(37:10):
And because when I woke up atnight I was like I get, my dog
was like really uncomfortable.
I was like what the hell isgoing on.
And I go and his whole face isswollen Like all the wrinkles
are just like what?
Yeah, he ate the clam chowderand he has shellfish allergies.

(37:32):
Oh, no, yeah.
And I was like you, you couldtell, like you could tell.
He was just all, and he justhad the saddest look on his face
and I was like you, stupid.
So, uh, um, 15 years ago, youcould go online.
You could already go online atthat point on my phone, and so I
don't remember what phone I had.
I think I might have had thechocolate, so I don't remember
if I used my cell phone or if Iused my laptop and I googled,

(37:54):
like what do you do?
What can you give your pets?
And so I was like I can'tafford to go to a veterinarian,
like a 24 hour one.
I doubt anybody's open when I'mat.
So I googled get a children'sBenadryl.
So ran down to Walgreens, gotthe children's Benadryl because
it doesn't have alcohol, and Igot the liquid and the pills and

(38:19):
I poured it in the bowl andtried to get him to drink it out
of the bowl.
He did a little bit, but hewasn't like crazy about it.
I just grabbed him.
Yeah, I just made him drink itand he was miserable and just
put him in the kennel and waitedit out.
How long did it take for him tolevel up?
It was a good 40 hours, yeah.

(38:43):
So my pit bull, he just hadbouts with everything, like he
was an amazing dog.
Ate the clam chowder hadshellfish allergies, he made it.
So then he had a wonky ear thatwas like a V.
It was not just like a V, likethat, because he got into a

(39:04):
fight with a coyote and theychomped it up so much that part
of the ear just shriveled up anddied.
And he shook his head once andit just flew off.
Oh shit, yeah, like, and ittore open the skin on his skull.
So I took him to the vet.
They gave me like, they cleanedit and they gave me antibiotics
and so I gave it to them, butit was really bad.

(39:26):
It was still getting infected.
And a friend of mine says youknow what we used to do back in
Pennsylvania Just get sugar,pack the wound with sugar and
bandage them up.
So I did that, drew theinfection out.
No way it worked.
The sugar drew the infectionout, infection went away, the
head healed and he was a retardstill after that.

(39:47):
And then, uh, I had rat poison,and rat poison it's like a kind
of like a fishy flavor toattract animals and, uh, I keep
it in the garage.
It's not like I keep rat poisonin the kitchen.
But I, I like I had blocks ofrat poison because you know,
when you live by the desert youget a lot of field mice, you get

(40:07):
a lot of this, you get a lot ofthat, and usually you put it in
like a little container.
But I had a package of it andit came like in a bar and he in
each bar was about a pound andhe ate almost a full bar of rat
poison.
No, like, I found a piece of itand I was like what the fuck?
And I realized I didn't closethe garage door all the way.

(40:29):
And so I'm like what the hell?
I'm all looking around and I'mtrying to figure out how many
bars of rat poison do I have.
And I'm trying to calculate inmy head and I was like, so I
called the 1-800 number on thereand uh and uh, they're like oh.
So I started, I started reading, like right away.
I started reading like okay,what do I do?
What do I need to uh, to uh,counteract rat poison at the

(40:52):
very minimal?
So you need vitamin K,something, k 12 or something
like that.
And so I'm like okay, like okay, go to the local like livestock
store, horse down, or somethinglike I was like, okay, they
have it there.
And so I'm calling the lady upand and she's like, um, the, the
poison control place on thepackage.
And they and they say, well,how many ounces your bar, your

(41:12):
dog eat?
I was like, well, it's 16ounces to the bar.
She goes, yeah, yeah, we seethat.
So how many ounces your dog eat?
Probably about 15.
And she's like, oh, and shegoes, yeah, that's not good.
And I was like, well, what do Ido?
She goes, well, you need K12.
How many do I need?
I'll go buy at the local store.
She goes, no, you're not goingto be able to buy that quantity

(41:34):
of vitamin K for the counteractthe rat poison.
And I was like, dang, at leasttry.
She goes.
She goes, you got to go to geta vet and it has to be injected.
It's like I'm like freaking out, like, oh, fine, oh, it's like
oh, because I know it's going tocost me a couple hundred
dollars.
But I'm pissed.
I like my dog, yeah, and I'mafraid to do anything to my dog.
I'm afraid to like let him jumpor anything because, um, the

(41:57):
way those poisons go, they'reslow, kill they, you bleed to
death.
So if he have done anything.
He could have bled to death.
That wouldn't even mean hisfood, like I was freaking out.
And so I take him to the vet andthe vet's like, oh, it's all
Spartacus again.
I'm kind of telling him what'sgoing on and he's like, oh, and
they say we need this manymilligrams of vitamin K, k-12,
whatever it is, k12, whatever itis, k5, k12.

(42:20):
I don't remember what it wasspecifically.
And he goes, okay, okay.
So he goes and he brings outthese syringes, two of them Like
big syringes, like that fataround, like that big Of K12?
Yes, full, both of them.
And he's like well, we got togive your dog an injection.
How much are you going to giveall to him?

(42:40):
I was like, really he goes.
Yeah, your dog's going to get alot.
And I was like and he goes,they gave my dog and they gave
him the most injections and hemust have used your pet and they
know he didn't fight them oranything.
He was just kind of bummed outand I was like I'm freaking out
because I think this is it.

(43:00):
And I asked the vet.
I was like, so you gave my dogthis shot.
What happens?
Now he goes, we wait and see.
I was like he goes, yeah, hegoes, he may pull through, he
may not.
Just you put him in his kennel,don't let him get out, don't
let him eat anything, don't letanything that will cause any
sort of agitation scratch oranything that will cause the top

(43:20):
to start bleeding, and we'lljust see what happens.
Just give him water and the vetsays, if you're lucky, 50-50.
You know that's about as goodas it's going to get.
And so, yes, I just waited,like one day turned into two,
turned into three, and that dudemade it Like one day turned

(43:42):
into two, turned into three, andthat dude made it Like, made it
to be like 14, 15 years old.
Holy crap, Spartacus.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, yeah, k-12 works.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Then Stupid dog Fell into.
I gotta take him to themountains, go climb rocks.
He rolled into a cactus once.
I had to take all the cactusneedles out.
Like, yeah, like, just, yeah,like, yeah, like just.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Picture that dog in here man.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah, I'm going to put it right here.
I'm going to take this map andput it behind me and put him
right here.
But there's a picture I'mlooking for because I really
like it.
But, holy smokes, that littlejerk ate a pound of rat poison
and survived.
Jesus, yeah, I was so pissed.
So did the K-12 cost extra?
Oh, yeah, it cost a lot.
It was like a $500 visit justfor the shots.

(44:27):
Like not surgery, no, nothing,just because of the shots.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Like Fucking dog.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
You know, whenever I woulddrive to California, texas or I
think, all these road trips I'dalways take them.
I'd always get pictures of thempeeing everywhere.
It was just funny.
It was just funny.
He was a good dog.
He was just a great dog.
He handled the road well andgot his ass whipped by coyotes
and 8K12 and shellfish allergiesand hell of a life.

(44:57):
Yeah, you know it was cool.
It was cool, so that was my dog.
You know it was cool, it wascool, so that was my dog.
But anyways, going back to whatwe're talking about, man, crazy
how violence just sweeps in outof the blue one day, you know,
and it was a big one, like thelast.
Well, there's always shootingsand robberies here, but last
time we made national news likethat was probably for, like, the

(45:19):
bowling alley murders.
Yeah, random guys come in theysay there say so many theories
about that drug related, cartelrelated, whatever.
But basically they went in,they robbed the bowling alley,
put people down on their kneesand shot them in the head.
Um, you know, executed executionso, yeah, you know, and uh, um,
I don't know, man, I reallykind of thought about this this

(45:43):
week like I was telling this tomy friend of mine on Saturday.
I was, like you know, the firsttime I shot a Mosin Nagant.
That was a Soviet made boltaction rifle and it was used as
a sniper's rifle and then it hada hinge where you could flip
the bayonet over, like and youknow, lock the bayonet in, and

(46:06):
uh, um, and you could, you couldbuy armor piercing rounds for
it, like here locally, and it'sa big round, it's.
It's a bigger round than my 30out six, because we'd compare
them.
And it was a bigger round.
And the the head of it had asteel bar in it and we were
screwing around the desert,walking around, shooting
everything, and there was a pipemy buddy's like check this out

(46:31):
and it was, like you know,probably like a three-inch pipe
and it was like a quarter-inchsteel all the way around and he
shoots it with his rifle.
And that rifle popped throughone end of it, clear out the
other.
He shot into it.
Yeah, he shot through the sideof the pipe, cause it was just
like laying there and it justwent like in one side and out

(46:55):
the other, and I rememberthinking like what the hell?
like like does a does a bodyarmor even start?
Stop this, it's got to stillrot.
And like like we're sendingguys out to fight in wars and
this is what's being shot atthem.
I mean, does the helmet evenhelp at that point?
No way, yeah.

(47:16):
And I, and I remember that, theidea of the permanence of it,
like thinking, like, like whatwill that do to a person?
Like that steel rod hit thebone, shatters your bone,
whatever.
Like you know a bullet willshatter your bone either way,
but like armor piercing around,what it will do to human?
Like stupid.
And I wonder if a young guygets a gun and he's showing off

(47:42):
to his friends and all that.
I wonder if they ever thinkabout that.
Like the connection betweendeath and how quick a bullet can
take someone.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, no they don't it's optic.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
It's all optics, movies, videos.
I just yeah, video games, evenlike my .45,.
We had some steel sights upthere shooting at these steel
sights, 45 just tears rightthrough them, and me and fobs,
we were looking at those steelsights we had just bought just

(48:14):
had holes torn through them andwe're like damn .30-06 and a .40
caliber handgun just blowingholes through it.
It's like what chance do youhave?
Not much.
No, you knowwhat I mean.
And so you have kids runningaround with these firearms,
because I'm the one, I'm of thetype that you know, the firearms

(48:39):
is just the instrument.
The instrument doesn't kill.
You could kill somebody with aknife.
You could kill somebody with aknife.
You could kill somebody with ahammer Blunt, force, right, just
a bat Bash in their head,they're dead.
Well, you could make all batsillegal, but I guess it's just
that permanence of like, hey,this is a serious thing.
And when you point it atsomebody, you know that old

(49:02):
saying don't point it atsomebody unless you intend to
use it.
But it's like if you intend touse it, do you know the
consequences?
Like, this is not a video game.
When you point this weapon atsomebody and you use it.
That's it.
They're gone.
There's no coming back.
And what are you going to call?
You're pointing at somebodybecause you're pissed off for
who knows what reason.

(49:22):
Talking shit.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Where's the self-defense?
I'm sorry.
I mean, like there's nojustification in it.
Like that guy that walked intoWalmart and he's shooting people
in El Paso, like a couple yearsago Nobody had a gun and fired
back on him which is surprisingfor Texas, I guess but like, if

(49:48):
somebody pulled out a handgunand shot at this guy, that would
be completely different becausehe's walking around killing
people.
But that's not even this.
This is like a park wherethere's people for the weekend,
and like an unsanctioned gun orcar show and I know, I've seen
those where people just pull up,they start playing music,
they're all just kind of hangout, something to do on a
Saturday night.

(50:09):
But you're going to just kind ofpull out a gun.
Just, I don't know, you're thebig man or something.
I don't.
I don't get it.
Like, what Cause you're tough?
Like, like, like you say like,do you think?
Like, does anybody think?
Like man, as soon as it goesoff, I have to point to somebody
.
As soon as I point to somebody,something's going to happen,

(50:31):
somebody's going to die.
Like, like, where's the mentalconnection?
Like this person's going to die.
This is not a video game.
No more.
This is real man.
They.
No more.
This is real.
They're so angry that's whatthe goal is.
They're like I'm going to killthis motherfucker and everyone's
going to see.
I'm not the one to fuck withStupid shit.
This is why I'm not opposed tothe whole elimination of the

(50:56):
Department of Education.
Education was so differentprior to my days.
Even in my days it wasdifferent.
But then think about myparents' days and my parents'
parents.
How much different it was.
Even when I was in school theyhad brought a rifle out there

(51:21):
and they would show you how therifle works and all that.
There was still gun safety andthis is like when I was really
young, but that went away too.
But at one point, uh, uh,weapons training and weapon
safety was a part of, was a partof the curriculum and be like
just like shop and it's like,hey, this is a real thing, this

(51:42):
will hurt people.
This is why you don't point itat people.
You know it's weird how thatand civics have gone away.
And you go to Israel Peoplewalking around with not AR-15s
but the military version, notthe M15s, but like the military

(52:03):
version, not the M-15, but the.
It's not an M-15 anymore, it'slike the newest version of
whatever it is now you know SKS.
No, sks is a Russian, it's likean American, it's a non-Russian
made Kalashnikov.
So an AK-47 is a Klitschnikovright A Russian, made or

(52:27):
licensed by a Soviet country,but in those days.
But SKS is like thenon-automatic, the semi.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Almost like an.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
American made or Brazilian made or whatever you
know.
So but even then like, but yougo like israel and you see
people walking around with theirmilitary rifles.
Chicks, dressed up, gorgeous,and they have like their purse
automatic rifle hanging overtheir shoulder.
Everyone just walking aroundand you don't have people just
randomly shooting people in thestreets.

(52:56):
You know switzerland, everybodyowns automatic rifles.
You know it's like a thing likesmall country You're going to
own an automatic, you will ownan automatic rifle.
You don't have that crazy gunviolence there.
It's mandatory.
I don't know now, but likeafter World War II it was.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
No way.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah, that was like if you went in the military, it
was like you're going to own aweapon.
Uh, you even have the option of, like, keeping your weapon or
something when you got out ofthe military as a invasion
preventative.
Yeah, everybody was going to bearmed to the teeth, but uh, um,
I like it and it seemed likethere was a time when everybody
here in america had guns or wereor something, and I mean, we

(53:39):
all still but but there was like, uh, everybody used it and
everybody learned about it andunderstood it.
There was like a differentrespect around it.
Everyone hunted.
Yeah, it wasn't going to besomething like somebody's going
to talk shit to you, you'regoing to be at a park and you're
going to pull it out.
No, that's some bitch shitAgain, it's that thing.
If you're going to pull it out,you're going to pull it out.

(54:08):
You're going to point atsomebody.
Don't point unless you intendto use it.
But if you use it, these arethe consequences.
This is what happens.
People die.
They do not come back from it.
So that's the one extreme thatI'm hoping will happen that
people like stop and be nice toeach other and recognize how
short life is very 9-11, getback to cruises, like you know
being the old way, or I don'tknow how deeply gang-related it
is, I don't know either it couldbe retaliation.
Oh yeah, it could be completeretaliation.

(54:30):
Like a whole gang work is goingto start from Friday.
I am sure that there's evengoing to be those people that
are going to come out Elon Muskand Donald Trump.
Let me get one of those.
Yeah, yeah go for it, man.
I forgot my pack, man.
They're going to come out andbe like it's Donald Trump or an
Elon Musk, and that's why thishappens, Like they're trying to
take away our guns.
Trying to take away our gunsand we have a very liberal

(54:53):
governor in the state of NewMexico.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
She tried to.
She tried to put out guns inthe city of albuquerque for a
short while and uh, and it wasruled unconstitutional and got
shut down.
That's a wild step.
Yeah, she said, uh, gun get on.
Gun violence had gotten to thepoint that it was like epidemic
in albuquerque and she was gonnapass.

(55:16):
Uh, she passed like some sortof um, it was because of that
one guy that shot the people atthe rally, right, something like
that.
Do you remember that?
no, I don't so there is like aprotest going on and opposing
sides and one guy I guess he hada weapon on him, but so, like
one of the hippies ended uppunching him and like, yeah, he
killed like two guys.

(55:37):
Wow, it's all on video.
No, well, well, some it couldhave been part of that or
something, but she came out andshe put a moratorium on guns in
Albuquerque.
And they came out and said,well, you can't do that, that's
unconstitutional.
Yeah, it sounds like a goodidea, but I don't know.
I don't know, it's just crazyman.

(56:00):
Yeah, that sounds like an extrastep, like very reactionary,
and I'm pretty sure that thatshooting was in Albuquerque and
it's around the same time.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
It's around, it's got to be related.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Maybe there was like a number of shootings in that
particular window of time, whichis why they came up with that.
See, I'm seeing that little guysitting on the.
Oh, you missed him as soon asturned around and he left.
I just named the fly Doug.
Doug, you're gonna die.
You're gonna die, doug.
But yeah, I don't know, man.

(56:30):
And if you think about guns andsociety and I've had this
argument and I think you canargue it well, you go down to a
country like Mexico.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, that was close.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
There's already the fly killer.
Everyone I need batteries.
Is this FAAs?
It might, it might, damn it.
Oh my God, that's hilarious.
All right, please continue.
Okay, now you've got methinking.
Does this have double A's?
It might, it might damn it.
Oh my god, that's hilariousalright, please continue okay
now you've got me thinking do Ihave batteries in here?
I'm gonna get them.
I'll order the.

(57:13):
I'll order the salt gun.
Yeah, I'm gonna order the saltgun.
That way we can just sit hereand shoot the.
I know that's funny.
We're opening everything likeoh, it's only got double A's,
man, that's a triple A, that's atriple.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
A.
Oh my God, that's funny, that'striple A.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Or triple A.
I mean, yeah, they're alltriple A, but you but you know
you go to a country like Mexico.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
And gun violence and violence against women, and
there's all sorts of crazyviolence, right, and violence
against women.
There's all sorts of crazyviolence.
Guns are related to a lot ofthis violence, but part of the
equation is because of the lackof guns, it allows for further
gun violence from those thathave it Like England.

(57:58):
Whoa Fly flashed before my eyes.
Did you see him?
You came like yes, I just feltthat wrap.
He's on that wall.
You want to try?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Okay, I'm going to go for it.
He's right there.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Right on the top Next to the phone.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Okay, we're going to go for this, I would not hit you
, mike, I promise.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Ah, he's gone Right there.
Oh my god, this is funny.
We're just so focused on thisfly, but, uh, should we take a
fly killing break?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
oh, no, I got him.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
No way I got him, but I don't know if he's dead,
smash him, I'll be right back.
Artie hold on to the fork goodaim, I'll be right back, artie,
hold on to the fork.
Good aim, that's what happens.
You come out of the wrongpodcast.

(58:56):
I say You're right though hedid, it's not electrocuting him.
Did you find him?
Yes, he's dead, you're right.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
We need batteries.
Oh man, I hit him, I hit himhard, good job.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah, hey, I got you, I got this, I got this, so okay
.
So I mean, we're talking aboutgun violence and everything.
Here we are violence againstflies, the Buddhists would not
approve.
But therein lies the problemwith Mexico the lack of guns.
People like you have the newdrug gang that comes in, the new

(59:33):
jefe, wipes everybody out andgets rid of people and people in
the town can't defendthemselves.
They have no guns.
The police are no use, eitherthey don't want to because they
know they'll get wiped out, orthey're kind of already on the
payroll already as it is Yep,like there's just no
self-defense.
And when the violence got so badin southern Mexico, people

(59:58):
started getting guns illegally,you know, like automatic rifles,
and they started making theauto-defense forces.
How do they call itAuto-defense?
Like the self-defense, likethose groups of men that would
protect their areas, and liketowns would get together to
protect their areas from cartelsand they'd start fighting

(01:00:19):
cartels Like a neighborhoodwatch, kind of like a
neighborhood, but like loaded tothe teeth, armed to the teeth.
Why?
Because they didn't, thegovernment wasn't doing anything
about it, they didn't want to,or they were in cahoots or
something.
Like whatever the reason wasthe government, the local police
?
Nobody did so.
Local communities, littlevillages, took matters into

(01:00:43):
their own hand.
They came together, they madeauto they call them auto defense
groups went.
Who knows, they probably boughtthe guns illegally, because
that's how mexico?
Just tons of legal guns.
And they just started fightingcartels in these little areas
all over mexico where people aretrying to protect themselves,
and the government said we can'tdo that.
Well, like well, you're notdoing anything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Vigilante is badass.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
They had to and everything that happened in
Jalisco, like a week ago, wherethere was a ranch in Jalisco
that's reminiscent of a Nazideath camp and the local
government in Jalisco knew aboutit.
They investigated, they cameout and said we didn't find

(01:01:27):
anything.
We knew that it was a trainingarea for cartels, we knew that
people were taken there, but wedidn't find anything.
So, again, what the people dois they come up with their auto
defenses, but they also haveprivate forensics that they do
themselves.
So they went into this area andthey did like a forensic
investigation and you're talkinglike piles of clothes, piles of

(01:01:48):
shoes.
They found ovens where theywere just getting rid of the
remains of people.
They're finding bone fragments,like tons and tons of bones
throughout the whole propertywhere just tons of people were
being eliminated.
After the local government camein and said, nope, all clear,
it's all good.
1,500.
1,500 bodies, something likethat.

(01:02:09):
Yeah, something crazy.
That the local police force,the local government, said
wasn't there, talk about a loadof crap.
And so then it kind of begs todiffer.
Like you come to the UnitedStates like well, gun violence
is a problem, but then you go toa state that has ultra
conservative gun laws that youcan't own them.

(01:02:29):
And it's the complete opposite,because now you can't do
anything to protect yourself andone crazy yay, who has a gun,
the whole town is threatened,takes your daughter, rapes her
and kills her.
How many women were disappearedin Mexico?
Do you remember?
Too many, bro, I mean justwaters alone, there was hundreds
.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Like disappearing from the maquiladoras, like taxi
drivers.
And then there was the serialkiller we were talking about
last night.
You're talking like completefemicide.
How many people have Oops?
Hold on, let me take that back.
Let me do it this way.
What's the rough estimate of howmany women disappeared in
Mexico?
Let's see.

(01:03:14):
Oh, you know, I don't have iton the audio.
Okay, so recent estimateindicates that over 100,000
people have disappeared inMexico since records begin, with
a significant portion beingwomen.
Data suggests around 25% of thecases involve women and girls,
translating to roughly 25,000 ormore female disappearances.

(01:03:36):
Wow, the National Registry ofDistinguished Persons reported
over 111,000 total missingindividuals by 2023, and
advocates at Collegiate UNs havenoted that a true number could
be higher due to underreport.
It's way more, way more.
And you're talking at least25,000 women that were
specifically targeted becausethey were gorgeous.

(01:03:57):
Like there was a case.
This guy was on Joe Rogan.
He was interviewed by Joe Roganand, man, it was intense to
listen to him.
Let me see, I have his videosaved Is it.

(01:04:17):
Ed Manifesto?
No, ed Manifesto.
I used to be on his groupswhere he would.
What is the app called?
I used to be on his telegramgroups.
I like the work he does, man.
The pictures that was being puton his telegram groups out of
Mexico during the violence ofMexico, holy crap, there was

(01:04:39):
videos of people being skinnedalive oh, like the pedophiles
and stuff no, just regular asspeople.
That fucked up.
Yeah, people cartel violence.
Holy crap, there was videos ofpeople being skinned alive.
Oh, like the pedophiles andstuff.
No, just regular ass.
People that fucked up.
Yeah, people.
Cartel violence, people thatdidn't pay yeah, I mean there
was a video of people beingthrown off bridges.
Like just, it was brutal, itwas medieval over there, like

(01:04:59):
guys that were just from onecartel be captured by another
cartel and they'd have them lineup against the wall.
Cartel be captured by anothercartel and they'd have them line
up against the wall.
These guys were just like we'regoing to die.
They were just chill about it.
They knew they were going todie.
They weren't like let's get outof there, nothing, they were
like you know, they'd go up toeach person, blow their brains
out, beat them up or whatever.
And they have videos of allthis and I remember like
watching this, thinking likethis is bloody, medieval and a

(01:05:20):
lot of this is like an hour, two, three hours away from here,
from the United States.
Insane, insane, insane.
So this guy here I'm trying tooh, here it is War is Drug
Cartel Victim, marissa Escobar.
Sad Story.
This one was on Joe Rogan and Ican't play it because you know
the copywriting stuff.
It is Joe Rogan and Johani Hari.

(01:05:45):
He's an English.
Like investigator he spent alot of time down in Mexico or
journalist.
Johani Hari is a writer andjournalist.
His new book, lost Connections,is available now.
So he was talking about a momfrom Juarez that had like a
14-year-old daughter and they'dgo to the market every day to
sell stuff or something.
And I'm going to try toparaphrase without butchering it

(01:06:06):
, but they would go to Juarez tosell stuff and she's something
about like they met this kid andthis kid not a kid young man
befriended them and she was likeshe was helping him out because
he didn't have anything orwhatever, and she was, gave him
a place to stay, took care ofhim, that he'd help him in the

(01:06:27):
market and whatever.
And then, uh, um, she finds outthat this young man that's
significantly older than hisdaughter and I think his
daughter was like 14 he's beenhaving sexual relations with her
, with her daughter.
So she kicks him out.
Well, it turns out he's fromthe local drug gang.
So he kidnaps the daughter,takes her she's pregnant and the

(01:06:49):
mom looks for her and shethinks she finds him and she
tells the police.
The police don't do anything.
Then that guy disappears again.
The daughter disappears.
She gets the daughter, he goesback and takes her and kind of
goes back and forth.
She would always alert thepolice and the police wouldn't
do anything about him.
She said something to theextent of like they thought that
the police was tipping them off, that we know where you're at

(01:07:12):
and all that.
And this is during like theheyday of the craziness.
And then a long time goes thatshe didn't hear about her
daughter and this random guyreaches out to the mom and tells
the mom like hey, I know whereyour daughter is and I know
about her whereabouts, but hedidn't want to be seen talking

(01:07:33):
to her in juarez.
So she agrees to meet thisrandom guy middle of the desert
outside of town and like thewater is desert out there, it's
there, I think it's.
It's a legit debtor.
So she goes and he tells heryour daughter's dead, here's
where you can find her body.
And they I don't remember ifthey went and they found the
body or something, but heconfirmed that she was dead and
this guy has a kid and that's it, and so she takes, like the

(01:07:58):
evidence to the policedepartment and they didn't do
anything about it.
So she does this campaign, asingle mom campaign, where she
walked everywhere all overmexico and she was get start
getting rallies together forpeople that wanted justice for
their, for women, in mexico anduh, um, she had a huge following

(01:08:19):
in mexico and I and I up once,but she would go talk at big
events and all that and she wasI don't recall if she was like
in Chihuahua, the capital of thestate of Chihuahua, or she was
like in Mexico City, but she waslike at a governor's office
house or something and they hadlike a big rally there and, like
I said, I might be butcheringthe details, but she was getting

(01:08:42):
ready for a speech and therewas like I don't want to say
hundreds of thousands of people,but there was like tens of
thousands of people, like a lotof people from all over Mexico
that wanted like justice fortheir children that disappeared,
against drug violence and allthat stuff.
And she got up on stage and wasgetting ready to talk at a,
like you say, at a governmentlocation the government's office
, governor's office, and allthat.

(01:09:03):
Some guy walks up to her whileshe's on stage, shoots her in
the head.
The person just leaves, thatperson's never apprehended and
she's dead and that's like theend of her story.
That's it.
She's martyred now.
She's martyred now.
But in Mexico nothing happened.
And and you think about like,nobody has guns to defend

(01:09:26):
himself.
Your average person that livesout there going to work and all
that it's not like they have agun to defend themselves.
So if a random cartel wants tocome take your kid or something,
you can do anything to defendyourself.
Your neighbor can't defenditself.
And the government?
I fully believe thegovernment's in full cahoots.
They're they're benefiting,unless unless, like uh el chapo,

(01:09:50):
where you get too famous foryour own good, then they give
you up to the americans.
Because that's the thing withel chapo they that they gave
them up to the americans.
They they did away from becausehe got too big for his britches
.
But the, the people on thegovernment side, they're making
money off of him.
So they don't want to doanything for a long time.
And I think it can be reallyargued that Mexico is nearly a

(01:10:14):
failed state.
The current president,socialist, communist woman I
mean it's weird to hear peoplehere in America say like, oh man
, she talks great and she stoodup to Trump.
No, she didn't, matter of fact,she backed down.
We were putting tariffs on her.

(01:10:36):
They gave up a bunch of cartelguys and they're putting the
army everywhere, and they'reputting army on the border.
Now Don't tell me that thiswoman came to the Americans and
what she's doing is like a dropin the bucket as to what needs
to be done in Mexico.
She's only doing this becausethere's too many people that

(01:10:57):
stand to lose money if we don'thave open free trade.
So the people on the top thatwant to continue to make money.
They say, okay, let's give upso many cartel guys and let's do
this to placate the Americans.
But there's no real change inMexico.
There's no change.

(01:11:17):
You might have a local governordo something for your state.
You might have a local mayortry to do a lot for your city,
but it ends there.
There's no significantlong-lasting change.
And who knows how many peopleand how high up the ladder
that's involved with the cartels?
Yeah, Even here the cartelscould run all the way to the US.

(01:11:40):
Oh yeah, I've always said thishere in the United States At
least there's enough good peoplewilling to do something about
it.
You have enough districtattorneys, you have enough
police officers.
You have enough people thatbelieve in a system here that
they're going to do somethingabout it and it's going to get
done at some point.
You know they'll follow the law, they'll do what they have to,

(01:12:01):
but they're going to get thesepeople.
It's like I don't know if downsouth they just give up, they
don't care, or they get paid off, I don't know.
They realize they have too muchto risk and they don't want to
lay it all on the line.
I don't get it, but you know,it's just.
Part of me thinks that Mexico isa pretty failed country.

(01:12:24):
The Jalisco New Generationcontrols big chunks of the
southern Mexico.
It's not like Mexico controlsit.
They don't.
The cartels control it.
They've tried to go intoCuliacan and they were able to
get a couple of people out ofthere that they wanted, but it's
such a war zone every time theygo in there they never take

(01:12:47):
control of the city.
It's nuts.
It's clear who's in power andit's been like that for at least
20 years, and I think Mexico'sbeautiful.
I think Mexico's beautiful, Ithink the people are great, the
culture's great, everything'sgreat about it.
But, man, you have a countrywhere, after the revolution,
people had to turn in their guns, and over the last about 100

(01:13:12):
years, because Revolution Aended around the same time,
world War I ended, so when itended, people had to turn their
guns and all that you know tothe government, and over the
course of a hundred years, associety has spun out of control,
people don't have the abilityto take care of themselves,

(01:13:36):
defend themselves.
It's a crazy time all around,man from local to global.
Oh yeah, the global stuff.
It's a crazy time all around,man.
Yeah yeah, from local to global.
I don't know man.
Oh yeah, the global stuff.
Everything Ukraine, russia, theHouthis, like it's just.
It's an interesting time to bealive again, you know, mm-hmm?
Yeah, I don't know, man, don'tknow.

(01:13:58):
I remember thinking, oh, likeover the weekend Cruises, wasn't
this bad in the 90s?
And then you reminded me of theBowling Alley.
The Bowling Alley was kind oflike the equivalent to this, and
I hope we don't have a sequel,because it seems like after
things happen at the BowlingAlley.
That's when the Wolf Pack cameout, that's when more LCPD units

(01:14:22):
got a little more active.
I think the Wolfpack came outand I was really trying to think
about this, because there was alot of teenage drinking, god, a
lot of partying, a lot of DUIs,parties at the rivers, days in
Confusa, damn Poles, the cove,like everywhere, the clearing,
like all these partieseverywhere, and I think they

(01:14:42):
were trying to get a grasp ondrinking and driving and all
that.
And so the Wolfpack, theSheriff's Office they had a
bunch of officers on theweekends going around with their
four-wheelers.
Ecstasy exploded, oh yeah, xexploded.
I remember being at parties andeverybody smoking weed and I
was still wet behind my wheels.
I'd be like, oh my God,everybody's smoking weed behind
my words and be like, oh my god,everybody's smoking weed
they're smoking drugs they'resmoking marijuana, like at these

(01:15:03):
parties, like we're gonna getinto so much trouble, we're
gonna go to jail, but um, butit's weird though, like I don't
know man, I don't know, likemaybe maybe violence has always
been there.
It just comes and flows andwaves.
You know it's like the ocean,and I don't know who else
telling this to, but it's likethe ocean, you know, there's
tide comes in and then it kindof goes down again and comes in,

(01:15:27):
and so it comes and goes andflows and maybe we're seeing an
uptick in it because there's alot of uncertainty going on
right now.
Definitely a problem with thejustice system.
People get released, even forviolent crimes, within a couple
days look at what happened incaliforn California, for a good
minute.
I don't know if they're stilldoing this, but they weren't
even like when there was likeshoplifting, they weren't even

(01:15:49):
going after.
The people weren't prosecuting,weren't arresting them for like
anything, anything.
Yeah, you had to steal morethan a thousand dollars, right,
something like that and theyweren't prosecuting.
They weren.
They weren't prosecuting, theyweren't incarcerating.
And it seemed like justrecently they started to and
people have been surprised by it.
There was like a video of thesegirls that stole stuff from a
store and then the police cameand got them.

(01:16:09):
They're like why are youarresting us?
It's like you stole from astore and you're obvious about
it.
So I think a lot of localdistrict DAs and whatnot are fed
up.
They want to do something aboutit.
Again, there's good people thatwant to do something about it,

(01:16:29):
they realize there's work to bedone.
They realize there's work to bedone and there's always work to
be done, but right now it's likethe pile is really big and
we've got to start fromsomewhere.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
You know, like after the riots,remember, in LA, things kind of
chilled out after that, oh yeah, well, I mean it's funny
because you said, like you know,you hope everybody kind of is

(01:16:50):
good after, like the violence,like 9-11.
When 9-11 happened, likeeverybody, patriotism,
patriotism, but people overallwere just a little bit nicer to
each other.
They really were for a periodof time there.
I remember just how life seemedlike it just turned around
overnight.
You know, yeah, the LA riotsand Rodney King, remember all

(01:17:14):
that stuff.
People went crazy and it's justnuts.
There's a story about theseKoreans in Koreatown.
They armed themselves andessentially barricaded Koreatown
.
They armed themselves andessentially barricaded koreatown
to prevent the mob from comingin and just burning the whole
korea down to the ground.
Yep, on the rooftops, right,but again, they're able to do so
because in america you can havea gun and you can defend

(01:17:38):
yourself.
You wouldn to, but that's whythat right's there.
That's why that right's thereFor that specific scenario.
Yeah, that specific reason andwe do a disjustice by not
teaching our kids about guns,because where are they learning
from it?
Social media, call of Dutymovies, instagram.
And it's funny because when youhear a kid talking about a gun,

(01:18:02):
it's like what do you need thatfor?
Well, this person and thisperson online have these guns.
I'm like that's so stupid.
You just made me realize that Imean, these are all teenagers
that we're talking about.
On Friday, there's video ofwhen the shooting started, but
we just haven't seen it.

(01:18:22):
I'm sure there is there's videoof the shooting.
It's stupid because it's likeMaybe this is a sign of the
times, that there's kids thathave grown up with social media
now Full on, since they're kidsnow, not like you and me.
We didn't grow up with socialmedia for the first umpteen

(01:18:44):
years of our life, right, orMySpace, and even then you
couldn't really upload somethingfrom your phone to MySpace.
Initially, right, one had flipphones and razors and
blueberries.
Yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Blueberries.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
The razor.
What was the black one?
The flip phone.
I remember the V90.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Sidekick.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
No, there was a sidekick, the V90, which is like
a little flip phone fromMotorola.
It's like titanium cover.
It was really pretty.
And then the black one oh man,it was a really good phone.
I really liked it.
It was like legit, it was likea black flip phone.
But yeah, these people like wedidn't grow up with it, but kids

(01:19:33):
grow up with like social medianow, and so they're shooting,
popping off and people arerandomly shooting with assault
rifles and, like I say, even ifyou had a handgun, you could
still shoot fast.
Bam bam bam.
You know just as fast as youcould shoot.
Bam bam, bam bam.
You go through nine, ten rounds, drop the click Again.

(01:19:53):
Less than a minute you haveanother clip.
Bam bam, bam, bam bam.
So between those fourknuckleheads they're saying so
you know how Young Park is.
You've been there.
So you have the parking lot.
There are showcases that gofrom the parking lot towards the
center of the park by thebathrooms and then down towards
that hill and the streets.
It went all the way to thestreets.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
People were running around shooting at each other.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Yep, they were chasing people.
That's so crazy.
But you had kids on their phonewhile the shootings.
Going around that are concernedabout taking videos.
It's like, hey, you knowthere's.
You know stray bullets is athing You're.
They're not aiming for you, butDude it looks like one kid's
like phoned behind him andrunning, like, yeah, just like

(01:20:38):
getting footage and running andthere's people behind like it's
crazy.
It's like run for your life andhide.
But that might be the evidencethat got these four kids
apprehended.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
But you're right, it might be the evidence that got
these four kids apprehended.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
But you're right, it might be the evidence.
Yeah, and I don't know, like Ihaven't looked into it or
anything like this.
But how many of those videosare like on social media now?
Or how many were initially onlike Facebook, instagram, tiktok
, and then, once they startedinvestigating, people were like,
okay, let's take these videosoff.
But for like, I wonder.
But I bet there's like a windowof time that all those videos

(01:21:11):
were just uploaded.
Everybody's checking it out.
Then, like as soon as policestart investigating, people are
like we got to get rid of thesevideos For like 8 to 12 hours,
something like that.
So if you got a video of theshooting and you put it online
because you're like, dude, I washere it online because you're

(01:21:33):
like, dude, I was here.
It's crazy.
Like people are shooting meeverybody and then you find out
police are investigating, you'relike, okay, I'm gonna go ahead
and delete this video.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Are you obstructing?
No?

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
there's no obstruction of justice
investigation.
No, uh, especially if, like,all right, so like, let's say,
you're a parent and you, yourkid, uploaded it and you're like
hey, you were there first off,and and then all that deal who
knows how each parents can dealwith it.
I'm sure if there was a kid whoposted it and the parent found
out, yeah, they told him to takethat down.
We need to show that to thecops.
Yeah, yeah, especially now thatthere are people who are dead
and everybody was talking aboutSaturday morning.

(01:22:01):
Yeah, that's too bad forraising kids to be knuckleheads.
We made national news becauseof that.
What a horrible thing to makenational news about.
You know, like we need thewhole enchilada.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Jeez.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Okay.
So there was this festival herecalled the Whole Enchilada,
this local tortilla owner.
He would make a big enchilada,the world's largest enchilada.
They'd cook it in there and cutit and you'd eat it.
But I remember I was a kid goingto this thing and it was like
the downtown and food standsgalore, like there's never
anything to do, like, didn'tselena play it one year?
Selena played one year?
Yeah, exactly right.

(01:22:37):
Then they even had like alittle area like a beer tent.
The tigris went there one year.
People would sell crafts andall that and uh pogs, yeah, yeah
, exactly right.
And uh, but I, I remember beingthere at 9, 10 o'clock at night
and knuckleheads would startfighting.
Yeah, I remember that.
But it's not like guys werepulling guns up.
Local gang fights back thenwere fights and they'd fight

(01:23:01):
each other and the cops wouldcome and break them up and
arrest somebody, but it was juststraight up throwing down.
Nobody was pulling guns backthen.
I don't know if they pulledknives or not back then.
It's probably somebody didn't,but but it was.
It was just different, like youknow, maybe.
Maybe life was different whenwe were kids.
I don't know it was.
I'd say it was.
It's kind of like that clichethat you say oh, the old people

(01:23:23):
are like oh, these young kidsit's like no, it kind of happens
through time.
Well, you know, uh, you like youlook at ancient history and a
lot of the the old writers theywould, they would write about.
All these kids are so different.
Now you're talking like athousand years ago.
They're still back then yeah,they're saying these kids and I
there was one specific case Iused to remember that a
historian was talking about likehow this historian, you know

(01:23:46):
that's writing about everythinggoing on during the time of a of
Alexander they're saying thesekids, you're like two, three
thousand years ago.
But I always wonder when is,like, the future going to start?
Because I was watching the clipfrom Demolition man today.
You know Demolition man withWesley Snipes, and so they're

(01:24:09):
fighting in the museum andWesley Snipes is trying to get
some guns and he goes wait asecond, this is the future.
Where's the future guns?
And he gets that one gun thatmakes a big ol' explosion.
You know he goes that's whatI'm talking about.
I was like are we in the futurenow?
Can't like I'm not talkingabout us having lasers, but can

(01:24:29):
I own a gun now that has mybiometrics to it?
So if you got it you couldn'tshoot it.
Are we there yet?
Is technology?

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
there, yet Like a fingerprint gun.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Yeah, I would hope so .
Have you not looked that up?
I don't know.
I would assume that ourtechnology is there now.
Yeah, maybe it's not.
Maybe it's still in the future.
I don't know, I would assumethat our technology is there now
.
Yeah, maybe it's not, maybe it'sstill in the future.
I bet the government guys haveit, the men in black have it,
but they wouldn't want it though, because if they were the men
in black, then they would wantto be able to shoot crazy alien

(01:25:01):
comes down from the sky, right,mm-hmm?
Let's ask Grok, hey Ara, arethere futuristic guns that exist
that are only registered toyour biometric marker or
fingerprint, that won't letanybody else shoot it?

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Oh, you mean like something straight out of a
sci-fi movie?
I don't have the latest scoopsince I'm not hooked up to
real-time info, but as far as Iknow, there have been ideas
floating around about smart gunswith biometric locks, like
fingerprint scanners or griprecognition, so only the owner
can fire them.
I think some prototypes havebeen tinkered with, but I
couldn't tell you if they're outin the world yet or just still

(01:25:40):
in the lab.
What do you think about thatkind of tech?
Cool or creepy?

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Huh, okay.
Well, I mean, there you go.
Her information's updated up tolast year, do you remember?
I don't remember the what Well,like cause it.
Yeah, let's ask.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Hey, aura how current is your information?
Hey there, it's Aura, not Aura.
My info's fresh up to december2024, but I can't peek at
anything happening right now,since it's evening and I don't
have real-time access.
What's on your mind tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
no, no, that's all we wanted to know, thank you glad
I could help.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
If you need anything else this evening, just let me
know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Take care it's so funny that you can just like hey
, let's ask this person from theinternet Did you name her?
No, that's a name that camewith it already.
They didn't give you a nameoption because I know I would
have given her like somethingcute, you know, like something
that we can pronounce.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Yeah, exactly, not mess it up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Every time I try to say Aura, she says no, it's not
Aura, like I don't think I saidAura, like I don't think I said
aura.
So anyway, that's what's goingon down in these neck of the
woods.
And you know I will say this westill live in a great state,
great town.
There's good people and peopleshouldn't let this be like a

(01:27:02):
blight on what goes on here.
You know even El Paso, texas,great town.
You know good people out there,mix of cultures.
Just it's a great area to be in.
You know, yeah, I just it'llalways be home.
Don't let this one random actof violence make you think it's

(01:27:25):
lawless out here.
The wild west out here, becauseit's not, doesn't ruin Chicago.
Chicago's got a greatreputation and Lord knows how
much violence goes on thereEvery weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Oh my God, Stuff like this happens.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
The South Side, right yeah yeah, that's crazy.
So, no, it's not like that here.
It's a good place, but Ialready think.
I just have a lot of hope andfaith in humanity.
I'm just like hoping the parentsget a little more scared and
the parents who are a littlemore passive get, you know,

(01:27:57):
start probing their kids' livesa little more.
You know what I?
Okay, so there's two things.
Like, I say, the Department ofEducation there's really good
school districts out there, solet's be curious to see, like,
what school districts around thecountry do now that they have
more freedom to uh, um, to tocustomize their education in

(01:28:21):
their community, in their state,right, so that that's going to
be interesting.
That could be a really goodthing.
You could, you couldtentatively see some states
really go in differentdirections that have really good
programs, you know.
But I've always wished and I'vethought about this a lot but I

(01:28:41):
wish there was a lot morelegislation on social media with
kids, kids specifically, andyeah, you could go on there and
you can lie you can lie aboutyour age or whatever but I just
wish there was some sort of wayto legislate this and and be
like.
You know, parents, or moreparents, are like right, you're
not going to be on social mediaafter six o'clock and no, you're

(01:29:01):
not going to have an instagramaccount and no, you're not going
to this.
Like it's I.
I wish there was morelegislation on that.
And people say, well, whatrights do kids have?
Well, they're kids, right, kidsnever historically I don't know
how to word this I don't wantto say they didn't have rights.
But kids' rights are differentthan adults' rights, like now

(01:29:24):
during the progressive era withTeddy Roosevelt and all that
stuff.
There's like rights passed thatkids shouldn't work.
You know, child labor should beillegal so that kids can be
kids.
But kids do have certain rightsin the sense of that.
They should be safe, theyshould have food, they should
have a roof, they shouldn't bebeaten, they should be taken
care of and loved and theyshould have a right to an

(01:29:45):
education.
They should go to the education.
Loved and they should have aright to an education.
They should go to the educationLike.
Kids have this, this unalienableright that they are allowed to
be children and they should begiven the best opportunity to
succeed, succeed as an adult.
There's no underline rightthere that supersedes anything

(01:30:05):
else.
Like, like the reason we callchildren children is because
their capacity to make a gooddecision is not the same as an
adult.
Right, you know, kids have avery instant gratification,
emotional reaction to decisionsLike oh, I like this, I like

(01:30:31):
this dessert, it's my favoritething to eat.
I'm only going to eat cake, youknow, for breakfast, lunch and
dinner.
You know what I mean, becauseit tastes good.
Now, that's not going to begood for them, it's not healthy
for them, but you know, and andthat's okay.
They're children like I say,that's a more sensitive area now
that we know that developmentdoesn't stop until 25.
Oh yeah, we haven't known thatfor like 20 years.

(01:30:51):
Oh, absolutely Right.
And yeah, I mean us guys we'reidiots till our late 20s.
But in a sense of like children, like children should be
protected, and I think thisprotection needs to include
against the evils of socialmedia, people that pray on them
online and all that it's got to.

(01:31:12):
Then again, there's probablysome suit.
Who's making that money?
Just like with the cartel, ohyeah, they're making money off
the kids, you know like.
You know kids see something oninstagram like hey, mom, can I
order this with my phone?
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
They're making gobs of moneyoff of who knows what, but
hacked, oh yeah.
Well, what about like thelittle girls that grow up with

(01:31:32):
like issues with their bodiesbecause they don't think they're
as beautiful, they don't thinkthey're as developed, they don't
think they're as popular?
Dude, when we're in high school, girls are worrying about
glamour and cosmopolitan makethem feel like crap now it's in
their pockets now it's in theirpockets.
Now it's in their pockets, yeah,and now it's real time.
And now you can have a group ofidiots leaving comments on a

(01:31:53):
girl's picture, like coming upon them, and they internalize
that a lot more.
Like just like a year ago.
A year, year and a half ago, acolleague of mine her daughter
was like best friends with someyoung lady in high school, like
a freshman, like a freshman, Ibelieve.

(01:32:14):
And her friend said like theyfound the dad, found his
daughter hanging from theceiling fan in her bedroom.
What?
And there was now the familysituation wasn't the best.
The parents were separated, themom would stay with the
boyfriend in Mexico and the dadwas always there, very abusive

(01:32:35):
with the daughter and all thatstuff.
But then the daughter startedgetting bullied from other girls
in school, yep, on social media.
And so it got to the tippingpoint where this young girl like
what, when you're a freshman inhigh school, what are you 15?
, 14, 15.
Decides to take her own life.
What the hell?

(01:32:56):
Man Became unbearable and shehad no support, no family
support, but the fact that againthere's no protection from her
on social media because it's allopen, like you could be, that
again.
There's no protection from heron social media because it's all
open, like you could be 14, 15,putting a picture on and people
are going to make fun of youbecause you're a little girl and

(01:33:17):
you're going to take itpersonal.
Yeah, there needs to be an agelimit.
I think so, man, like I don'tknow my niece when she was
really young, she would go onInstagram Live and I'd see her.
So I'd go on there and I'd belike hey, so-and-so, and she
goes hey, uncle Mark.
I'd be like hey, and I startedwatching the interactions on her

(01:33:40):
Live and I started watching thecomments guys were putting on
and there was one particularsomething some dude left like a
comment for her or something.
So I started, um, going to thatprofile, like who in the hell
is this?
Like some older dude leaving acomment to my little nieces live

(01:34:00):
.
Like who is this dude?
And I messaged my brother said,hey, uh, who's?
You know your daughter's goingon live and you have these guys
that are interacting with them.
Some of them are like realcreepers that are older or
whatever.
Blah, blah, like.
So he deleted her profile.
Oh, damn the whole thing.
Yeah, how old is she?
At the time she was God, maybelike 14, 15.

(01:34:23):
Yeah, that's valid.
Yeah, so, yeah, yeah, so yeah.
Good for my brother for takingthat step and going all out,
because I mean, I don't know,man, like it's a real thing,
it's real, they're too exposed.
They're too exposed, you know.
So, anyways, that's what'sgoing on, that's what's going on
in the world and that's whathappened in Cruces, and still a

(01:34:45):
great place, but it'sunfortunate.
A lot of work that needs to bedone, a lot of work that needs
to be done.
I'd hate to be a legislator likea city council person right now
.
Well, and here's the thing, youcan't be overreactionary,
because you can't make asweeping decision right now and
be like, okay, that happened,I'm going to do this, and it
applies to everybody.

(01:35:05):
You can't do that.
You have to wait and see howthings play out and all the
influences.
Then, if you don't do anything,then people call you out for
not doing anything.
But at the same time, it's likeif we pass these laws, then
good citizens are going tosuffer from it, because a couple
knuckleheads went crazy overthe weekend.
I'm sure there'll be cops thereon Friday, though.

(01:35:26):
Yeah, went crazy over theweekend, I'm sure there'll be
cops there on Friday though.
Yeah, these unsanctioned shows,they're done.
They're done.
It's stupid, they'll probablymove it over to like Toshiro by
Mayfield, and even then we'llfind the new spot.
I heard that the airport was agood spot for that too.
I used to go with a buddy ofours and we'd go out.
He would take his Tesla to gorace and there'd be kids out

(01:35:46):
there, like these way outside oftown in the manufacturing area,
and the kids would go out thereto go race and he would race
with his car because it was kindof cool.
But it was funny because therewere like a bunch of young kids.
They'd all come in theirvehicles and I remember thinking
, like these are young teenagers.
Where'd you get the money, bro?
Yeah, it's like so did you dothat with your I mean your

(01:36:15):
parents just give you a grand, adrop on this and that?
And like or did your parent buyyou a mustang?
That's a roush or it's soupedup with a supercharger?
Like jesus christ, in our day,our parents would.
But they'd find a $200 car,like right, here's your keys,
here's your first car, some ofus and it was like blow black,
smoke and the window didn't rolldown and all that.
Yeah, I mean I remember getting.
But yeah, I had a Dodge Shadow.

(01:36:36):
That was my first car.
But there were those kids inhigh school who had a Mustang,
or it's like there was a kid whohad a Corvette and I'm not a
parent so I can't, I'm not theexpert.
But it's like do you buy yourkid, you know that brand new car
off the lot because you thinkit's a safe vehicle and it's
like the newest sports model?
Or do you kind of be like, hey,this is what we had when we

(01:36:59):
were kids.
We didn't get the best car, butwe got a car.
If I had a daughter, I'd wanther to drive a muscle car.
Get her a Chevelle.
Oh, I want her to drive amuscle car.
Get her a Chevelle.
Oh, geez, you'd have all sortsof boy problems.
Everybody would want to dateher because it's a girl and then
she has a muscle car.
Nah, she'll know jiu-jitsu,she'll be fine.
Dude, I'm going to get mydaughter a freaking moped with a

(01:37:22):
retarded helmet.
I'm not going to take that toschool.
It's like all right, you'regoing to walk then Good luck.
You know, like I don't know,man, it's just such a weird
world anymore.
I don't know I don't know if I'dhave kids now.
I don't know if I want kidseither.
Man, Like it's just so weird,Like I've always wanted kids,
but I don't know about now.
Dude, I just have to level outand that, like you think about

(01:37:45):
the people that you're with nowlike your partner and like, geez
, I can barely stand anybody inmy life, much less to keep them
around.
The mother of a child yeah, Ican definitely relate to that.
And I was all thinking aboutthis Like, okay, I'm going to
get with somebody.
They're going to have a kid.
That person's going to end uphating me.
Then they're going to teach thekid to hate me.
So now, I'm not just going tohave that.

(01:38:05):
You know wife slash, ex-wifehating me, but now I'm going to
have the kids are going to hateme too, because you know dad's a
big a-hole.
Yeah, I got it.
No, you know what I mean.
Like I don't want to have todeal with any of that.
Dude, what the hell?
I think I might have a kid butnot get married.
You know what?
Man, I never thought I wouldsay this, but god bless it.

(01:38:26):
That makes a hell of a lot ofsense.
Yeah, you're already married byblood for 18 years.
Yeah, they go off to college.
you do their thing dude I, uh,like it's, I don't know.
It's just such a weird worldanymore I can't do it, I'm done.
I'm done, I can't.
You gotta see 2030.
I'm gonna run to like hawaii,live on, be a beach bum rest of

(01:38:47):
my life.
That's, I'm done.
What do you think 2030 will belike?
We're here, I don't know.
I don't know.
So, okay, so there's aperspective of me thinking
nothing's going to change.
It's going to still be the same.
You know, iphones will getbetter.

(01:39:08):
There might be a new technologythat might be awesome, a new
social media that might beawesome.
That'll come out.
Okay, work will still be work.
You still have to go to workand hopefully things aren't
overly expensive so you can notputting all your money into your
bills and your food.
I don't know, I don't thinkit'll be much different than now
.
Um, then I read, you know I readstuff, and there's these videos

(01:39:31):
I've been getting into aboutlike the messiah, the coming of
the messiah.
There's people that feel likethe second coming is going to be
in 2030.
That's interesting.
And then there's this wholething about like, uh, um, what's
going on the world between nowand 2030?
Like, will china be in a warwith tai to take Taiwan, will
Russia be doing their nextinvasion?

(01:39:52):
Like I mean, like you know whatI mean, like I don't know more,
more the same, but crazier, Idon't know.
I think at the very least, atthe very least it's safe to say
things won't change too much.
You and me will be a coupleyears older, people we know will
be a couple years older, Peoplewe know will be a couple years
older, and maybe we're in abetter position ourselves.

(01:40:13):
You know what I mean, but Idon't think it's going to change
a whole lot.
We'll see.
We'll see.
I mean, that's only.
I mean, it's only five yearsaway, dude, that's like nothing.
Now We'll already be talkingabout elections in 2027, I'll
probably have, like, I'llprobably have another hip, the
t100, I know right, like again,where's the future?

(01:40:36):
Like back to the future, flyingcars, and like, hey, you know
my uh, can I just get?
Take my whole leg off.
You give me a whole electronicleg.
And like the winter soldier,you know, like he has that one
arm, that's all metal, that'sall like jack take one of those
for sure it's like, yeah, I mean, can we do that now?
Is that a thing Like we'regetting closer?
I'm sure we're getting closerto that every day.
I'm sure we're getting closer.
But I mean, the, the, the, theDonald Trump, just amazing.

(01:41:04):
Like that's going to beinteresting, that'll be cool.
I mean, hopefully, I don't know, I just don't know.
I hope that there's not like amajor war or something like more
than there already is.
I don't know, it seems to beheading that direction.
I hope not, because, um, everywar in history, it was always
the biggest war until the nextone, like uh, um, um, I you have

(01:41:27):
to look at the timeline of warsto put it in the context, like
you know, do you Until the nextone?
Like, you have to look at thetimeline of wars To put it in
the context, like you know.
Do you think Korea was biggerthan World War 2?
No, I don't know.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no,because, and World War 2.
With the Russian front, You're,they're, the numbers go anywhere

(01:41:51):
from like 80 million to over100 million people dead, like
the Germans were just killingeverybody, and then the way the
Soviets were just throwingbodies into the war, like it's
like Ukraine, but bigger, likein Ukraine.
They were just throwingeverybody in there.
They were getting mowed down bythe Ukrainians like.
The Soviets were just like justgo.
People were like the lifeexpectancy is like what a couple
days.
Everybody in there, they'regetting mowed down by the
Ukrainians.
The Soviets were just like justgo.
People were like the lifeexpectancy is like what a couple

(01:42:13):
days.
If you're Russian and theythrew you out there, it's like
nuts.
Well, that's World War II.
It was the same thing.
Your life expectancy was veryminimal because they were just
throwing bodies at the Germans,just so the Germans wouldn't
take over.
So a lot of guys died that way.
The Germans killed everybody.
Germans at the time duringWorld War II viewed like

(01:42:37):
Russians and people from thatpart of the world.
They viewed them as nothing,garbage.
Right, they were a lot ofgypsies, jews, slavics, just
like they did with the Jewsright, russians were the same
way.
So Korea was that big?
No, but then the Chineseentered and Chinese just threw
bodies at the Americans and wepushed them back.

(01:42:58):
And you know, you talk tosoldiers, talking about the
waves of Chinese just runningdown the hills like ants on the
hills, and they were just mowingthem down.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Who knows how many Chinese died.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Chinese were fighting in the US.
Yeah, in world war ii, no, no.
In korea, oh in korea, yeah.
So they flipped on us after wesaved them from japan.
So so after so the chinese civilwar is going on.
Then, um, the chinese civil warkind of like they kind of did
like pause game off.
Japan just took a state inChina.
Now they invaded.

(01:43:29):
So we have to fight theJapanese.
And the Russians weren'tfighting the Japanese, I don't
think yet.
No, they weren't, because hadthe Japanese fought the Russians
from the East, russia wouldhave fell.
So we didn't want the Japaneseto fight Russia because we

(01:43:51):
needed Russia to fight theGermans.
So the Chinese they had theircivil war.
They put on pause.
After the war ended they kindof went back at it again.
But the nationalists, they fledTaiwanese and the communists
stayed there.
Then they had the.
They were going through thewhole cultural revolution where
they felt like they werebackwards.
They were agrarian, theystarted making these megacities

(01:44:13):
and thousands of people starved,and I shouldn't say thousands,
millions.
They all think more people diedin China than died in Russia.
So you're talking aboutmillions, millions of people
just died.
And so Chinese became theirversion of communism, which is
different than the Sovietversion of communism.

(01:44:33):
So for a while there theChinese and the Soviets didn't
really work together in terms ofcommunism because they had
different ideas of whatcommunism should be.
And then Korea was a bufferstate against the south or
against the like western culture, because it was divided from
the World War II.
And Korea was a buffer stateagainst the South or against the
Western culture because it wasdivided from World War II and

(01:44:53):
kind of like Germany was divided.
Well, korea was divided thesame way.
And so the North was Korean andthe UN because it was more of a
UN action, more than it waslike the United States, it was
like the UN was there and theyhad all but just defeated the
Koreans all the way to the riverI don't remember the name of

(01:45:16):
the river, but the river thatdivides Korea and China.
And that's when Chinese justthrowing soldiers in to help the
Koreans and so thousands andthousands of Chinese just came
in and just overran everyone,americans, un, everybody was
being overran.
Then they reorganized and theypushed back.
And that's when MacArthur hadhis famous disagreement with

(01:45:40):
Truman.
Because, macarthur, you knowpeople have different opinions
of MacArthur, but MacArthur wasstill like the great general in
the Pacific or the head honchoin the Pacific and he was
overseeing the Korean action andhe had made the comment that we
should just go ahead and startbombing China, nuking them.

(01:46:02):
Just drop a couple of nukes onChina and they're going to stop
fighting us in Korea.
And it pissed Truman off.
Was it Truman or was it alreadylike?
I don't remember if it wasTruman or if it was like a
Eisenhower, but it pissed off.
The current president asked forMacArthur, or recalled MacArthur

(01:46:22):
back to the States.
They forced him to resign, gavehis famous speech, just an old
soldier fading away.
And then the new general, um,took control of, uh, korea and
they pushed the chinese back.
And yeah, interesting, yeah,but like uh.
So who knows how many chinesewere lost in korea, but I don't
think it was anything like worldwar ii size at all.

(01:46:43):
I mean, it could have, it couldhave been really big, but yeah,
nuts Wild time.
Wow, it's so crazy how our viewson how your country should run,
or your views on religion, orjust your general view of this

(01:47:05):
people from this part of theworld, we see them differently.
So we see that we see themeither as ignorant or lesser or
whatever, because, because theyhave a certain government, or
because they have a certainreligion, or because they're
just a certain people.
Right, and we'll just go to warjust to go annihilate them.
Like, not us, like UnitedStates, but just humanity as a

(01:47:27):
whole, we'll just go to war forit.
You know, ukraine was a bigpart of Russia for a long time
and Russia viewed Ukraine aspart of the Russian Empire.
So, like Putin's trying toreclaim the old Russian Empire,
which it's like, people justwant to be free.

(01:47:47):
They just, you know, excuse,you can't blame for ukraine for
wanting to be a part of europe.
They, you know.
You see what happened withgermany once germany reunified,
it's become a powerhouse,manufacturing, people's got
money, they've got wealth, oreast germans are no longer
starving like they used to bebehind the berlin wall.
So, yeah, I don't blame.

(01:48:07):
Blame for Ukraine wanting todevelop industry and agriculture
, join Europe and trade and makemoney for their people and for
their families and be successful.
I just don't blame them.
They should have every right todo so, you know.
And then you have Russia comesin and they take over these four
oblasts, these four regions,the Donbass being one of them,

(01:48:29):
and when the Russian army getsin there, they hold referendums.
Right, we're going to vote youwant to be Russian or you want
to be independent.
So they gave them two options,and this was on Peter Zane, I
think he was talking about it.
He says the Russians, when theytook over these four regions in
Ukraine, they did thesereferendums to let people vote

(01:48:51):
what do you want to do?
And on the ballot there wasonly two options do you want to
be Russian or do you want to beindependent?
They didn't say do you want tobe Ukraine?
You know it was only Russian orindependent.
And he said and these resultscame back like 99% that they
want to be Russian.
He's like how incredible isthat?
And I think I hope he'll besarcastic about that, because
it's like well, yeah, if youhave the Russian army in your

(01:49:13):
town telling you that you haveto vote this way, of course it's
going to be 99% in your favor.
Yep, you know, that's how.
Putin's still in power.
How many people have theysuicided off buildings?
Still?
You know that one Russiangeneral that was.
How many people have theysuicided off buildings?
Still?
You know that one Russiangeneral that was the control of

(01:49:34):
the special forces His jet getsblown out of the sky
mysteriously, whatever his namewas.
I was like I don't know why.
Can't you just let these peoplejust do what they want.
You know, I don't know, don'tknow.
It's weird, right, it's weirdbecause we grew up here in the
united states.

(01:49:54):
We have different issues wedeal with, but we're not dealing
with like a country taking overour state saying like, no,
you're gonna be a part of us, Idon't care if you want it or not
.
Imagine that You're going totell me like, say, it was Mexico
.
You're going to tell me I'mgoing to be a part of Mexico.
Screw you, I'm not going togive you my guns, screw you.

(01:50:16):
You can't even control your ownterritory.
You're telling me I can't beAmerican because I have this
argument with Mexicans, somepeople I know from Mexico, and I
said you guys don't know whatfreedom is, sorry.
I mean you go to the store, yougo to work, you buy your beans
and your rice, you get what youneed, but I mean mass protests.

(01:50:37):
You guys have put down Anythingyou say against the government.
You're arrested.
There's no real true freedom ofspeech.
Like you live day to day, goingto work and taking care of your
family, but your freedoms kindof end there at that.
I don't know.
Kind of a weird way to think, Iguess.
But I mean kind of.
It's just unfortunately havingto look at that perspective,

(01:50:59):
what it's been like.
And if you want to do it likeI'm saying, another comparison
with Mexico Mexico still has avery a class system.
It's a democracy, but they havea class system.
So, very much so, it's ademocracy, but they have a class
system.
So the deal is is like yourkids do not have the opportunity
to be much more than you are.
As a parent, like here in theUnited States, we always want
our kids to be more successful.

(01:51:21):
Yeah, and they have thecapability.
Go to school, get a good job,make a lot of money, and you
have the chance of being morethan your parent was being more
successful Over there.
If you don't have the name, ifyou didn't come from the right
family, if you don't know theright connections, you're not
going to become more than whatyour class is already.
It's already predetermined foryou.

(01:51:42):
You'll get your car, you'll getyour house, you'll have your
family, and maybe that's enoughfor some people.
Maybe they're happy with that.
Yeah, I don't know, weird.
It's just weird because, like Isay, we're, we live here.
Yeah, we have no idea, we don't.
We're people here, don't we?
Don't we take for granted howblessed we are.
We really we really are, youknow, and it's imperfect, but

(01:52:08):
it's still more opportunity thanwe may have somewhere else.
Yep, anywhere else, anywhereelse, I mean you can come to the
United States not knowingEnglish and you still have the
chance to make something ofyourself.
Yeah, if you're willing to putin the work, it's a beautiful
thing.
It's a beautiful thing.
Willing to put in the work,it's a beautiful thing, it's a

(01:52:31):
beautiful thing, and so so, yeah, so I get, when I, when I hear
politics that are very extreme,people's impressions of the
other side, when it's veryextreme, it's, it's annoying,
it's like just wait and see.
Things never have really gonethat south.
In the 70s, huge protests andand rightly so civil rights,
civil rights for all americans,100, rightly so.

(01:52:54):
But things have always leveledout and they've always worked
out.
Here.
You know, you go from jimmycarter to nixon and you know, I
mean I don't know who the crazy,craziest person was since then.
I mean, then you have, likeronald, ronald Reagan, that came
in during the Russians, andthen you kind of swing the other
way to Obama.
The politics always swings backand forth, but things always, in

(01:53:17):
the long run, kind of works out.
And so either you're really forwhat's going on right now or
you're really against it.
For what's going on right now,or you're really against it but
there's no need to go doviolence, do crazy, because it's
going to work out in the longrun.
It really does work out.
In America there's enoughpeople that want this to work

(01:53:38):
and do the right thing that it'sgoing to work out, you know.
So, I don't know, that's kindof the way I look at it and
again, like with the local issue, I have a lot of hope.
I don't know, that's kind ofthe way I look at it.
Yeah, man, again, like with theLocal issue, I just have a lot
of hope and faith and humanityand hope that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Yeah, things need to level out.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Things are crazy All around.
Parents will get more.
Hopefully it forces Parents toOpen their eyes and get involved
With their kids.
Take an interest In their kidslives.
Yeah, that's what the kids need.
Take an interest.
See what they're doing.
They don't have the attentionthey're on social media.
Doing what?
Sorry, get rid of your socialmedia, son.

(01:54:16):
That's the way it is.
I don't want to.
It's tough.
Lose your social media or yourphone yeah, what do you want to
do?
Maybe you need to.
Maybe you need to lose yourphone too.
Maybe you need to lose yourphone too.
You don't need to be a 13 yearold with a cell phone.
Sorry, you know.
Anyways, that's my rant.
It's a good rant, my friend.
Thank you.
Thank you if you made it thisfar with us tonight and you

(01:54:42):
heard the local news about themass shooting in Cruces.
It's unfortunate, but it'sstill a good place.
It's still a good place.
It's still a good place.
It'll always be home Right onWell, thank you.
Thank you for joining us andthank you, mr Artie, and again,
thank you for dropping someknowledge on us when we need it
Absolutely man, have a goodnight.

(01:55:04):
Dude yeah, wow.

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