🚀 FROM FOOD CRITIC TO KITCHEN: John Sumser, HR tech's leading independent analyst for over 20 years, reveals what happens when you step from the sidelines into operations—and why most of what we believe about AI, HR, and career success is wrong. Learn how to navigate uncertainty as opportunity, why "I don't know" is the most powerful thing a leader can say, and what the next 5 years hold for HR in this candid conversation about transformation and truth-telling.
⏰ TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Teaser: The Best Clips
02:21 Welcome & Introduction
03:03 The Door-to-Door Santa Story
05:03 Polaroid's $100M Mistake: Old Problems, New Technology
10:00 Navigating Recession and Uncertainty
15:40 Comfort with Uncertainty as a Career Tool
18:00 From Food Critic to Kitchen: The Analyst Becomes an Operator
20:30 "I Don't Know" - The Most Powerful Leadership Tool
22:00 What Surprised Him About Being Inside
25:48 Re-igniting HR Examiner with Heather Bussing
28:00 AI's 80% Problem: Why Silicon Valley's $20 FUD is Working
31:55 Anthropomorphism: When AI Feels Like Your Friend
35:00 The Gigawatt Problem: AI's Energy Reality
40:00 Five Years Out: HR's Cracks Are Starting to Show
42:30 "What the Hell Do You Need Recruiters For?"
45:00 Strategy = Alignment (Not What HR Thinks It Means)
48:00 Leadership Corner: Caught Between Competing Executives
🔑 KEY INSIGHTS:
- People take new technology and solve old problems without understanding what the new tech can do—this is how Polaroid failed, and it's exactly where we are with AI today
- The difference between being a food critic and working in the kitchen: analysts imagine smooth stories, operators learn to wrap stories around chaos
- "I don't know" is the most powerful thing you can say—it gives you a path out and creates space for improvisation
- LLMs are 80-84% accurate, which means 1 out of every 5-10 words is wrong—and that makes them unusable for most HR applications
- AI companies want you to anthropomorphize their tools so you'll lower your expectations and stay sticky with their product
- In 5 years: People closer to the problem will solve it—recruiting shouldn't be centralized, it's a first-level supervisor's job
- HR is an "ocean of exceptions to budget discipline" while every other function has rigorous budget management
- The line from checkbook to productivity runs AROUND HR, not through it—and that has to change
📚 RESOURCES:
HR Examiner: https://www.hrexaminer.com (John's analysis and commentary)
John's Articles:
80% Isn't Very Good | https://www.hrexaminer.com/p/80-isnt-very-good
Anti-Anthropomorphism Prompt | https://www.hrexaminer.com/p/anti-anthropomorphism-prompt
Promptly Transparent | https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/promptly-transparent-john-sumser-qwjgc/?
Sam Altman on AI's Energy Consumption | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnl833wXRz0
Democrats Seek New Relationship With Fossil Fuels | https://www.semafor.com/article/12/04/2025/democrats-seek-a-new-relationship-with-fossil-fuels
đź”— CONNECT:
John Sumser: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnsumser/
Amy Wilson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-wilson-insight/
Meg Bear: https://www.linkedin.com/in/megbear/
Instagram: @megandamyshow
This episode features one of the most provocative conversations we've had about the gap between AI hype and AI reality, why HR's current design is broken, and what happens when someone who's been watching for decades steps into the arena. John doesn't hold back—and neither do we.
#AITransformation #HRTech #CareerReinvention #Leadership #FutureOfWork #MegAndAmyShow