DJ and Brad host guest pastor and long time listener of the podcast, John Reader. The third show in the "Our Church" mini-series, they discuss the legitimacy of the common claim, "More People, More Influence" as it pertains to the church. Topics include good and bad motivations for church programs, the health of church congregations, the health of church administration, and the leading of Christ in both the church and congregation. DJ and Brad play the "sermon meme" game with John.
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