February 3, 2025 • 50 mins
DJ and Brad recount their favorite video games from childhood and into their adult years. They both love video games with their kids.
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Welcome. This is the Men Church Stuff Podcast.
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This is the show where brothers-in-law DJ Culp and Brad Coleman talk about stuff from
our perspective as men. It's a show for anyone who wants to hear how Christians interact
with the world. And don't worry, we're real. We've grown up in church and we want to share
our experiences with you. We'll talk life stuff, church stuff, man stuff, and stuff
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stuff. Here we go.
Greetings, listeners here and there and everywhere, all across the land. This is the Men Church
Stuff Podcast. I am one of your hosts, DJ Culp, as always, here with my beloved brother-in-law,
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Brad Coleman. Brad, I did it. There.
You did it.
I got it.
Good job.
I got it in.
All the way through.
It only took three times.
Take three.
Take three.
That's actually a good opening, though, for our discussion today, as we're talking about,
you know, days.
It took three times? Yeah.
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Yeah. It was like, oh my God.
Oh my gosh, dude. Yes.
That level only took me like three, three tries.
I'm so excited to talk about our topic today. So usually, listeners, usually, you know,
if you're regular to the show, we kind of just, you know, we banter back and forth.
We sort of update ourselves with me and Brad. But to be quite honest, so today is February
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3. We actually recorded this the day after we recorded the episode for January 27. So
Brad and I don't really have a lot of update for each other. All right. So let's dive into
today's topic. Today's topic has nothing to do whatsoever with Jesus in church. It is
all stuff. Today's stuff. And Brad, I would be willing to say, I'm curious to hear you
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on this. When we were growing up, our topic today pretty much, pretty much was, was really
more of a guy thing, wasn't it?
For the most part. I mean, it was, it was a rare thing to have gamer girls, I think.
When we were kids.
At least they weren't mainstream.
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And from what I remember, they also weren't very outspoken about it. You know, like, like
gamers now, it's a totally different culture. It's a different world.
Well, it's cool now. I mean, like back in the day, like being a gamer was cool within
a certain circle.
Oh yeah, yes, that's very true.
But not outright popular. Like, you know, most people, oh, you got to get it.
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So you live with your mom, right? You know?
And really, if we're honest, like I was not like the PC gamer very much. I mean, like
I played some Diablo and stuff like that. So I think most of my questions about Diablo
where I'm going is going to even before that, really, because DJ, we kind of like, we predate
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PCs.
We what?
We predate PCs.
Yes, we do.
I'm not saying that they weren't out there, but they weren't mainstream. I think I got
our first, we got our first PC, which was, it was a hand-me-down for somebody else when
I was like 12.
Yeah, but dude, when we were kids, the PC operating system were, it was DOS. So, I mean,
you could play games.
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Games we were playing were a little different.
Yeah. So let's start here, Brad, because this is a really fun memory of mine. It was a summer
school class that our school, that my elementary school was offering as just sort of like an
elective for fun. And I remember my mom asking me if I would be interested in it. And it
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was a computer class. And I was like, I don't know what, I really don't know what that is.
I mean, I know what computers are, but I mean, sure, you know, this, and so this, this class
actually precedes typing class, or not precedes, but excuse me, it predates typing class. So
we had a, we had a room full of Apple IIEs, you know, I don't know if you remember Apple
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IIEs, but they're, they were the black screen with the green blinking cursor. And we, we
learned how to like, how to do command, command execute, you know, like all of those. And
there's so many of those, of those command prompts that I've forgotten. But the very
first video game, Brad, that I ever played on a PC was a little bitty turtle that you
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could move around. Like I remember the, the, the teacher reading out of this book and,
and like, I remember thinking, I don't know what cursors are, but the, the, the teacher
was supposed to do that. That's a sin to be a cursor.
That's right. Especially if your dad's the bastard. But I remember the teacher reading.
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So it says here, if you use the arrows, your turtle will move around on the screen.
Wow. I know. It was amazing. Yes. It was so awesome. You know, one of the first things,
it's not really, it's a game, but it's not like before we had a PC at home, you know,
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we had them like, I remember probably in fourth grade, we did touch typing for beginners.
And it was, it was these games. So they kind of like, they had these typing programs where
it taught you how to type. Yeah. It showed you on the screen, on the keyboard, you know,
where you're pressing, but then you had to, then you would do these games to practice.
And I loved them. And it was like, it was like you were the tortoise and there was a
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hare and it was very simple, you know, and like the faster you typed, the, the, like
the turtle would go and like you were trying to beat the hare. But if you like, if you
made an error, it didn't count. So it didn't move. So you had to do this. Now here's the
thing and gamers been doing this forever. Yeah. We, we realized that if you lost a couple
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rounds that the hare would go slower. So you, so you play the system. It kind of reset.
Yeah. And so then you're like, whoop, it's butt. Even if you make mistakes. That's right.
So it's like, you know, you deliberately throw a couple rounds and like, yeah, look at me.
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You get that hare going so slow because it thinks you're just an idiot. So it's like,
so the game like that, that I remember is actually, it wasn't the tortoise and a hare,
but you were like, like a sprinter, like on a, on a track. Yeah. There were several, there
were several different games. Yeah. And they were like high tech at the time. They were
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awesome. That was actually one of my favorite typing games. Um, and anytime, like, so, so
as you typed, your little person would run faster. But if you, if you typed the wrong
letter, your person would fall down. Um, and this is me, Brad, and I'm sure listeners,
if you guys are gamers, first of all, um, let us know if you grew up, you know, loving
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video games like Brad and I, um, but my favorite thing to do if I got bored was, all right,
well how ridiculous can this get? And so I would just start, I would just start typing
just dumb random letters just to see how fast I could make my person fall down. Like, I
didn't care about winning anymore. The teacher is getting this little print out at the end
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of the day. And it's like DJ needs, wow. Yeah. He, I've never seen a kid do this bad. So,
so you understand what these letters are? That's right. So words. So Brad, our topic
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today is video games. Um, I want to start it out with my favorite video game memory
of all time. Okay. It is actually my, uh, it's when I got my, my first video game console.
Um, I was in second grade. So if I do the math right, what is second grade, eight years
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old. So it was 1990, um, 1989, 1990s. And, um, I got for Christmas and, uh, in NES and
listeners, if you have no idea what that is, that's a Nintendo entertainment system. If
you still have no idea what that is, go find out. Please. You know what Nintendo is? Yeah.
I doubt there's very many people out there is like, what's Nintendo? Yeah. No, no, I'm
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not talking about the brand. I'm talking about in any. Yes. I know. So there's something
to do with Nintendo. Does it poke him on? Not back then. It wasn't a Pokemon. So Brad,
my very first video game that I ever had, cause like back then you remember, I mean,
still they still do this, but you know, you get a console and usually comes with the game.
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The bundle had excite bike in it. Did you ever play excite bikes? Yes. Yes. Cause again,
like I didn't, like I got all these things like hand me down. Once the new systems came
in, like the first new system I got was the SNES and that was when it was the N64 was
coming out and it was clearanced. And so like my parents got it for me for Christmas when
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it got clearanced. I was so excited. That's one of the best gifts. Matter of fact, I had
that until just a couple of years ago when I gave it to my brother who still has that
SNES. Still works. Such a good game console. Yeah. So, but yeah, my cousins had excite
bikes. So I'd go over to their house and just play, you know, and loved where you could
just build your own course. I know. You know, you could do those crazy. How high could you
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jump and you like, you could, you could like, if you, if you angled it right, your rear
wheel could knock over your opponents. And the kids, kids today don't understand because
like this is the simplest. It was so simple that sometimes the, like if they're taking
a course in school on creating like, you know, games or something like that, cause I know
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like, you know, Hannah's doing this simple little, they're kind of teaching kids to code
in this one class that she's doing, but with very simple level. And I'm like, that was
what excite bike was. Like you could probably be coding it. I mean, you're not wrong, man.
Excite bike in its essence was, was just basic. I mean, but it was brilliant. It was, and
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dude, it was so entertaining. Right. Like for us, cause it was, it was like, there was,
we'd never done anything. Yeah. That's exactly right. Like an Atari. I don't, I don't, if
we ever had an Atari, I don't remember it. And Atari, and again, for us in the kids that
they won't even get this, but Atari was like, those types of games made their comeback when
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cell phones first had a screen. You play like snake. That was like the Atari. It was just
like, okay, here's some couple of pixels. We can do a few things. Yeah. You know, it's
it's simple. It's not, you know, just see how long you can keep the snake from running
into itself. That's yeah. I love that game by the way. All right. So that's my, that's
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my absolute favorite video game memory. What's yours? So it involves my cousin Chris and
it involves before I actually had it at any kind of system because he had a Nintendo.
My cousin Chris is several years older than me. Like when I was little, he was in high
school. Um, but I go down to his house cause they live just a couple of houses down and
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he would play Super Mario Brothers three. And so he was really good at it and he played
it for a long time. Matter of fact, I learned a lot of the secrets just watching him play
through. I would just sit there and watch him play through Super Mario three. Well,
I don't know if you know this, but when you beat Super Mario three, it starts over. Yeah.
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You just replay the worlds, but you start with like the P wings, the forever like flying
away. I didn't know that. Like you get like two whole, at least two whole, like your whole
inventory is full of those. Wow. And so he would beat it and, and I don't know if he
did this multiple times, but like it felt like it, like I know that like, so he would
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beat it and then he'd hand it to me so I could play and I got to start with these, these
power up wings, these P wings that would just eternally fly through a level. And then you
finished the level and it was just a regular, you know, like flying kind of Mario, but you
still had, you could, you could use another one until you use them up. And it was, so
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it was so cool. Yeah. And here is like, again, it was just my older cousin whom I thought
was like one of the coolest guys I've ever met. I still do Chris, if you're listening,
I still think you're one of the coolest guys I've ever met. And shout out to Chris. Yeah.
He would just, but yeah, he'd beat it and then he'd just let me play. Yeah. You know,
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and he went to there and watched me very long. He's going to go do his thing. But I mean,
like, I just thought that was the coolest thing ever. And that's cool. Never, never
forgotten that. So yeah, that's probably my, my favorite, like in game, especially like
when I look at like first, you know, but there's one thing about Chris is Chris, you know,
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Chris is just a nice guy and he always taught me, you know, he taught me things. He treated
me with respect, even though I was just weird little kid, you know, he never made me feel
like, I mean, like he would tease me like cousins are, cause cousins are supposed to
do that, you know, a little bit, but I never felt like, like he was critical of me. I always
felt like his teasing was, was including me. That's fun. You know, and, and like, and I,
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I'm not, I'm going to pick on any of my other cousins, but like not all of my cousins made
me feel that way. I can relate. So, so, um, you asked me to write some questions. Yeah,
dude. So here's my first question. Okay. DJ, how did you figure out secrets before YouTube
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and Google? Like all of these games, they have, they have the secrets you got to figure
out or the secret way you got to beat the level. Yeah. So there are, there were, couldn't
just, couldn't just YouTube it and watch another guy do it. You're exactly right. Um, all right.
So first of all, let me say this. I, uh, before, before I bought a Nintendo 64 with my own
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money, when I was a, I don't know, sophomore, junior in high school, I think, um, I did
not actually have another game console beyond the NES. So like the, the, the four, four
consoles that I've ever owned my entire life include the NES, the 64, I still have the
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64, the Nintendo Wii, which we just replaced this Christmas and, and I don't own it technically.
Um, but like we, we got no, uh, a, uh, a Nintendo switch. So I'm Nintendo through and through,
oh, so good. But yeah, I am Nintendo through and through. So to answer your question, a
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lot of the, and really the majority of the games that I owned did not have a lot of those
secrets built in, uh, with the exception of Super Mario Brothers. Um, and to answer that
question using Super Mario Brothers, how did I figure out the secrets? By complete accident.
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By like, and, and not even, not even trial and error. Like the very first time or one
of the very first times that I ever found a one up is just because I just happened to
jump at the right time in the right place. And I thought, wait a minute, there's these
things in the game. And that's when I started just jumping all over the place. Like I got
to find another one. Um, does this pipe lead to anything? Yeah, I know. Right. You're trying
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every pipe. Can I, is it really possible to, you know, jump off the screen and then not
come down and think, wait a minute, can I move? And then you just start running and
like everything's moving below you and dude, this is a secret, a secret passage. What have
I stumbled upon? Yeah, that's how I did it. I think it's in Super Mario Brothers three,
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there's a secret where you, like if you go down the sand, like quick sand, like most
of the time you reach the bottom, you die. But there's a couple where you reach the bottom
and it drops into a secret room. Oh, see, that's so cool, man. It is. And you know,
and sometimes like you found that by thinking you were going to die. It's exactly right.
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Well, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess they intended that back then, right? Again, cause
you didn't have people like doing YouTube videos and oh, hey, go to the third one and
and this is what it is. No, you're like, oh man, I'm gonna, I'm dead. I'm dead. Oh wait,
no, there's like a one up. Yeah. Now I will say this. I only ever did this once cause
I had a friend who had one, but did you ever hear of the game genie? I, I, I've heard them
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of them. I never had one. I never knew anybody that I played with that had one. So, so the
game genie came with like just a book full of codes that, that you could unlock, like
how ways to cheat. And there was one of my absolute favorite games to play in the NES
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is called super C. So there was Contra and then there was super Contra. I didn't have,
I didn't have the original Contra, but I had super C and dude, super C is so freaking hard,
man. It's like just having to dodge bullets, knowing, knowing like, all right, I need this
gun for these, for these bad guys, that gun for that bad guy. And I could never beat the
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thing. So my friend, Kyle Lassar, my best friend in elementary school, Kyle, dude, if
you're out there, I, I, I would love to be able to catch up with you, man. But anyways,
Kyle brought his game genie over and to be quite honest, I didn't have any fun with it
because I was like, I wasn't earning anything. And if there's anything that I really like,
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I don't want to, I don't want this to be like a, you know, soap box. But like a filibuster,
that's what I was trying to think of. There is something about a lot of the games now
because of first of all, they're online platforms, but also because of, you know, all you have
to do is go to YouTube or, or, you know, just, just try to find other videos elsewhere of
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people telling you how to play these games. There's not a lot of, there's not a lot of
like risk reward. You know, like, how do I, how do I beat this level? I'll just go, I'll
just go watch somebody who's already done it versus how do I beat this level? I don't
know. I guess I have to start the game over. Yeah. There were a lot of things too that
like when other people had played those games, you know, I picked, I picked up stuff from
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other people, like watching Chris, like I was like, Oh, I would have never known if
I just bust that block and fly up there that there's a whole new, like half a level up
there. Right. So watching or talking to other guys or over here and people talk about, Oh,
hey, did you know this? Yeah. So there was, there was that communication. And it was,
and from that, from that standpoint, there was really a lot more community that was involved,
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that was involved in talking about the game, but also, like you were saying, also playing
the game in like, I mean, with only two players with the NES and super NES had four, if I
remember right, had four ports, didn't it? No, it hadn't, it came standard with two.
I think that's when they, they had, they had games. I think they had like some stuff you
could buy to, to make it for. Got it. Okay. I was, I had in my head that, that it had
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four, but the N64 had, had four ports. Yeah. And that was like kind of the first time you
could do like quads and like a game like, you know, so I remember we had a double eye,
Goldeneye, which was, you know, great. And, you know, that was the Fortnite that was at
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Fortnite. Yep. Then you could get together, you could play, you could play one-on-one,
you could play up to four people. Now, obviously you're all looking at the same screen. So,
so there's that. It's really, it's really easy to cheat. I know where you're at. Stop
cheating. I know. Stop looking at me. You know, so there's, there was no like hidden
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there. It was kind of the honor system and we weren't always honorable. Yeah. And even
if you tried to be, I mean, it's kind of hard not to, it's kind of hard not to see the square
next to yours. That's just right there. But yeah, we had so much fun with that. My brother
would destroy me. My little brother, my brother's five years younger than me. My little brother
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would destroy me at those games. That's fun. That's funny. You get such better aim, all
that. I just remember one time I had the golden gun. Yeah. Guys, if you don't know this, if
you had the golden gun and double Goldeneye 007, it was a one shot, one kill. If you shot
him in the hand, he's dead. Grazed him. He's dead. He's dead. I had the golden gun. I
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had found the golden gun and I, and he still beat me. Like I ran in, I'm going to like
just, but he had, he had just this killer killer aim. So one of the things I learned,
and again, this is my little brother, which is, Bob's always been, you know, he's always
been sharp with that kind of thing, especially. And I had to use a different technique. I
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could not beat him gun for gun. Like if we're having a okay corral situation, I'm dead.
So I had to play it smart. They had these proximity mines. I knew you were going to
say that. I was like, so you're the booby trap guy. I would booby trap it. Yes. And
like, and, and I learned, cause he's smart, right? So he would learn to look for them
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and you could shoot them and set them off and they blow up. That's exactly right. So
I learned just how, how close I could get the next mine without it being set off by
the first mine. That's awesome, dude. And then I would kind of hide it, but enough so
like he could see the first one, you know, but, but it didn't look like I was just sitting
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it, you know, and, and so he'd be like, Oh yeah. And then he hit it and then he'd run
right into the second mine. I just remember him being like, stop doing that. No, I'm not
going to stop doing that. That's part of the strategy. And that's, that's, that's another
thing about like, you know, FPS is first person shooters that, that I kind of, I mean, I'll
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play them, but I miss, I miss kind of like the, the strategy, the slow sort of the slow,
the slow burn of, of like the double of seven, you know, where you have to move slowly. You
have to be extremely strategic. And I mean, like you would know this way more than more
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than more than me, because I know that you, I've heard you talk that, that you and Isaiah
play is it call of duty? Is that what it is? So we did call it duty for a while. And then
I kind of got the new call of duty came out and then they kind of just like dropped the
old one. Like you can still play it, but it like lagged a lot and longer. I mean, it's
really evident that they were intentionally doing this. So you buy the newest one. Right.
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And then, you know, it's like 60, 70 bucks. And then a year later they come out, like
there's, there's two versions since we stopped playing that have come out. And I was just
like, I'm done. Yeah. I'm done with that, that, that garbage of, you know, and so I
didn't play anything for a while. And then Ninja Turtles came into Fortnite and the kids
were playing and I was like, wait, Ninja Turtles are, I can get a Ninja Turtle skin. So I can
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play as Leonardo now cause I, I purchased this Leonardo skin with my adult money. So
I now also can be Boba Fett. I can be a football player. I can put my number on, you know,
all kinds of, I mean, they know how to make money. Here's the beautiful thing that I do
like about Fortnite, right? And there's, there's, there's some downsides. So like, I'm not saying,
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oh yeah, Fortnite's awesome. But the thing I like about it is all of the skins and all
of the cool stuff that you get, none of them, as far as I know, give you any kind of extra
oomph in the game. It's just the way you look. It's just the way you look. Yeah. You know,
so it's in that sense, it's not pay to play. Like even like you get these car skins, all
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it does is make your car look cooler. Yeah. Doesn't make it go faster. So the end game
dynamic doesn't change based on the character that you're playing. Right. You know, and
I like that. So you don't, you don't start with a better gun. You got to learn where
the better guns are found and then the maps keep changing. And so then it's like, oh,
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well now it's not here anymore. That part I don't like because as soon as I figure out
these things, it seems like it's like, what, were you just waiting on me? All right. This
is where that was that everybody else knew. Cause you know, I don't think about, oh, I
should go to YouTube. At least not very often. I don't like watching other people play games
and there's nothing fun about that. Why, why do I want to sit and watch you play with a
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toy? You know, like, you know, though there is the adult version of that, the non-gamer
adult version of that, you know, it's a fishing. No, it's well, yeah. I mean, that was, yeah.
HGTV, you know, let's buy this house and let's flip it. Let's, let's fix it up. Hey, look,
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let's watch this guy read renovate a kitchen. You know, Brad, I'm never going to renovate
my kitchen. That's a really good point because football, baseball, basketball, let's watch
other people do things I'm not doing. So, and I'll be honest, I've never thought about
that. I kind of hate you for that. Well, I hadn't either. And I was like being really
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critical of my kids, like, cause they were just watching. I was like, look, you got Minecraft,
stop watching people play Minecraft. I mean, like, if you're going to watch people, I'm
like, it's fine, go watch the video to see how to do something and go in and do it. And
then I'm like, I'm not even praying about it. Cause I was like, you know, I want my
kids to not be dumb and do dumb stuff. I mean, they're going to do dumb stuff. But you know,
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I could pray about everything. And so I prayed about it. And I'm like, so then I met my moms
shortly after that. And we're sitting there watching these people look at these houses
to buy and talk about what they're going to do to fix it up. You know, and then the next
show is, oh, it's a fixer up show. And I'm, and it was like, it was like, God was like,
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you know, you do this is kind of like what your kids are doing, isn't it? That's kind
of the same thing. And I'm like, oh, it is, it is gone. And it did it totally. It totally
changed my perspective on it. Now I still don't like, yeah. I think what it did was
make me want to watch those shows less. I was like, yeah, oh, that's right. Oh, dumb.
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But again, as we do, we, we like to watch those. I mean, like, if you think about it,
what are movies? You know, we're, we're kind of doing the same thing. You know, I don't
know about you, but I'm on some level being like, oh yeah, that'd be that guy right there.
That's kind of me. Yeah. Oh no, I wouldn't have done that.
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All right. So to that point, this is, this is something that I was thinking about for
you. If you like, is there, is there a, a, a video game or like a video game character
or something like that, that you just fell in love with that you, that you I'm not going
to say, I mean, maybe identified with, I think that's a weird way to word it, but like, is
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there something that you would always run to because you connected with that particular
game probably more so than anything else? Well, you know, like I never had a whole lot
of games, like even when like, so I got the super Nintendo entertainment system, the SNES.
And again, I got it when it was getting, you know, I got it for Christmas. It was, and
I wanted one. I played it at my friend's house. So I loved Super Mario world, but I had that
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and like maybe three or four other games and some of them were just really horrible games.
Like I had this one game, it was like a soccer game, but it wasn't, you didn't play soccer.
It was like soccer ball was your weapon and you went through these stupid levels and it
was just, it was not very fun and it was super difficult and it was just like, yeah. And,
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but, but again, like my, my parents got what they could afford and oh, that game was like
five, you know, five bucks or whatever, or whatever it was when it was clear. I think,
I think there was like a $5 bin or something at Walmart for a while, you know, and it was
these games that, you know, well, people weren't going to pay a lot money for cause they suck.
No offense, no offense against whoever it was like FIFA world or whatever, but it was
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like the whole idea was that they had crashed on their plane and like was in the middle
of the jungle. And so they were fighting all of these like jungle things, but also like
bad guys that were like, you know, I don't know if they were drug dealers or whatever,
but you know, guns and stuff with your soccer ball. Like with your soccer ball. Yeah, it
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was, it was pretty, pretty dumb. So, but the game that I really got into and loved so much
other than Super Mario Brothers three, which that was on NES with Super Mario Brothers
world and with Yoshi and all that. And then you could get the different color Yoshi's
such a good game. You know, once I finally got into like star road and was able to get
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the different, get the red Yoshi, get the yellow Yoshi and all of those things. And
they each had different like, you know, powers, you know, the red one, you could shoot fire.
The yellow one was kind of lame. It kind of just did like a super stomp, you know, but
you had to be really close. I never utilized that a lot, but then you had the purple Yoshi,
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which could fly. I didn't know that. Yeah. Like you, so you get, so if you got a purple
shell, any Yoshi can fly, but if you got a purple Yoshi or maybe blue, it looked purple
on my screen. I think now it was blue. It was blue. But I always called it purple Yoshi
because it looked purple on my old TV. But he would get a shell, any shell, and then
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like he could fly for the duration. Now after a while he would swallow the shell and then
he'd lose the ability or you could spit it out and he'd lose the ability. So you had
to be careful there, but yeah, he could like fly like, and it was, it was an amazing ability.
So I would just, you know, I have this level that was really hard that I wasn't able to
beat. I'm like, okay, I'm going to go back and we go to star road. I'm going to get this
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Yoshi and I'm going to fly past that part. So, and then I thought accomplished because
in star road, there's like a secret set of levels, which are the five, I think there's
five of them, like most difficult levels in the game. They're incredibly difficult. They
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stressed me out. But once I finally beat them, as I finally figured out how to beat them,
it was, I felt so accomplished. And there, I think is one of the things that we lose,
right? I didn't have a YouTube video to go watch. The sense of accomplishment. That's
why I said like, I had to die 87 times. Yes. Yeah. The, the, what is it? What did I, how
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did I word it? But like there's a risk and reward, you know, like, like you were saying
you had to die. How many times to figure that out? There was a walk away and come back the
next day. Yeah. That's exactly right. Yes. I'm like, I, there's like little, little Koopa
that was like dressed as a football player and he would like throw these footballs and
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like, it's, he's so far away. He's over here and he's just constantly throwing these footballs.
And it looks like there's absolutely no way to get across. And like, like if football
hits you, it's like, you know, if you're little, it kills you. If not, it makes you little.
You're, you're, you're sitting here trying to do all this and it's like, this is impossible.
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There's no shell for the, the blue purple Yoshi to eat, to get across. You know, you're
trying to do all of these things and I would get mad and I just have to stop playing and
come back and try again later. Yeah. And then, you know, I finally figure out the secret
to doing it. I don't want to ruin it for anybody that may go back and play that. So I had this
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game that I do. I loved to play. It was so cool. It was called bionic commando and bionic
commando, like you were, you were a soldier and you were basically like, like it was,
it was set in, in like not world war two, but it was set you against basically Nazis.
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I mean, they, they look like Nazis. They were dressed like Nazis. They're like a lot of
the, a lot of the, like the logos and the, and the, and the symbols for, for this, you
know, the sect of people would remind you of, of some of the Nazi symbols. Anyways, I can't
remember if it's level seven, nine or 11. It's one of, it's one of those odd numbers
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throughout, throughout the game, you would collect radio packs, you know, like, uh, then
again in world war two, when, you know, if you were a radio guy, you would radio in airstrikes,
whatever you like, you could collect those and they were in your inventory. Well, you
have, you clearly have the right to just be like, well, I don't, you know, I'm not worried
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about that. I just want to get through the level. So at the beginning of one of these
levels you start out with this really, with a really tall, like an eye beam, you know,
like that, that you would, that construction workers would use. This is just tall eye beam
that you cannot get through. You can't shoot it. You've got the, the premise of the game
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is that you, one of your arms is, is a, uh, uh, I was like a retracting claw that you
can stretch out. You can cling things, you can swing. Um, but like it doesn't, it doesn't
grapple and what you can't do is you can't leave the level. So you are literally stuck
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there unless you have the right radio pack with you. And here's how I figured it out
by pure dumb luck, but I had to, I had to actually press reset on my game multiple times
and just start over. Because I mean, like if you leave, if, if, if, again, you can't
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leave the level, but like, if you, if you look at your inventory and you have, you have,
um, like chosen one of the wrong colors radio packs, or if you just, if you just bypass
it entirely, I mean, you're out of luck. Like there's nothing you can do. So yeah, I'm,
I'm really with you on that one, that there's, there was so much reward when you've really
figured it out.
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Well, and like we played games before there were save files. Yeah. I mean, like super
Mario world had save files and a lot, but I mean, like you look at some of those games,
like you can't turn off super Mario brothers three in the NES system and come back and
be where you were. No, or any of the other ones for that matter. And what was the worst
was the worst is when it froze. Oh, like you're doing well. You're, you're, you're on level
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five or something. And all of a sudden you jump and the screen just goes, and you hear
diddle diddle. Yeah. Oh yeah. And it's like, no, no, I know dude. Um, that's awesome.
I know. Oh, back when that was the worst thing in life, you know, the worst thing that ever
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happened to it. My life is over. So the kind of games that I didn't realize that I love
and it probably because when I was a kid, it's just not how, how I, my brain worked
and how, you know, I really found enjoyment. Um, and I know I've said this recently, um,
on, on, on the show, but once I hit college and I started playing, like I was actually
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a PC gamer. Now I didn't have tons and tons of stuff, but I loved the, the, the, the,
the online platform with, with first person shooters. Um, but there was, there was a game
that came out that completely changed how I began to think, wow, I really like these
types of games. This game was called Morrowind and Morrowind was a fantasy game. Um, and
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it was a Blizzard. I think Blizzard is, uh, is the game company that made it. Um, and
they made a lot of good games. They made Diablo. You fight the devil, by the way. You're not
the devil. Yeah, you're not the devil. You fight the devil. That's right. For anybody
that's Uber conservative and think that, that Diablo is a, is a demonic game. No, you're,
you're killing demons. Anyways, dude, Diablo is hard, but, um, I remember with Morrowind,
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a friend of mine got it and I would stay up until three and four o'clock in the morning
doing nothing but playing Morrowind. So here's, here's the rules of Morrowind. Ready? There
aren't. You can, you can open world. Yes, it's open world. You can go anywhere you want.
You can kill anybody you want to. It is possible to actually kill every single thing in the
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game. And you would be the only thing left living. Um, and I re I began to realize like,
dude, this is addicting. I don't want to stop playing because there's always something else
to do. And that's when I began to realize, I don't think that I can, I like, I need to,
I need to, to, to press pause on video games. I can't, I can't play like true open world
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games like Isaiah can. It's fine. He's doing some of these Zelda. He's paid. He's bought
it. Saved up his own money. Is so awesome. But, and then like, you know, it's just like,
like, there's like this open world Zelda that he's playing. He enjoys it. He loves it. Paid
for it with his own money. Yeah. You know, um, my buddy Angelo and him will talk about
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it. You know, he'll tell me about it, but I'm like, I'm kind of like, okay, cool. Yeah.
I don't know what that is, but yeah. Um, and it sounds like a lot of fun, but I also know
I can't do it. Like I, I get lost in those games and I lose, I lose like track of time
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and reality and I've spent way too much time with really nothing to show for it. I beat
that boss. And yes, at the moment it felt like it was the most important thing in the
history of ever. But you know, looking back, it's like, yeah, okay. I spent how long? One
of the things I love about one of the things I love about fortnight, um, because it's a,
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it's somewhat open world, but you know, it's there's some different things, but I can play
with my brother. Like recently, like I had stopped playing for, for a while cause, cause
I need to be playing with somebody else so that when they quit, I quit. Yeah, that's
right. We call that accountability. Yeah. Right. Otherwise, you know, I will play way too long. Yeah.
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Um, but it's really fun cause like, it's just, I probably six months to a year I hadn't played.
And then my brother started playing with his kids and he was like, Hey, um, you don't play
fortnight. So, so now like over the last, especially like, I think it really started
with like, we were all in the snow, right? Cause they were snowed in, we were snowed
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in like just a week or so ago. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So, and so since then, you know, probably
six, eight times I've played fortnight with my brother or I played fortnight with my niece
and nephew played fortnight with my brother, my niece and my nephew and my nieces boyfriend,
who is like the guy you want on your team and the guy you definitely don't want not
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on your team. Cause like, it's like, okay, um, Adam, the rest of us are dead. We need
you to come and revive us and kill these four people that just slaughtered us. And then
he would like, like only like one time, I think did those people ever get him and it'd
be like four on one and he'd just be like, okay, I got your guys' cards. I'm going to
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reboot you. It's like, thanks. And he would, he would never hang with us cause he was out
slaughtering groups of four, you know, across the map. It's like, at the end, how many kills
did, how many kills did you get? Oh, I got three. Oh, I got four. He's like, oh, I got
43. I think it was the most he ever said. I got 43. There's a hundred people in the
game and we're four of them. And it's, yeah. And so it was like, um, we just divide Adam's
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score by 10. Yeah. Right. You got 4.3. That's your handicap. You got 4.3 kills Adam. He's
like, okay, that's fair. He's, he's nice kid. And, uh, oh, that's good. But we played this
one game where it was just us because you can only play four at a time. And so Isaiah
was, was on and then I was on and my brother and my niece, my nephew and Adam. And so I
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think Carrie Beth may have played. Yeah. And Carrie Beth. So here we are, all these people.
So we found this game in Fortnite where it was just us against each other. Yeah. We had
to kick Adam out. This just wasn't fun. Yeah. Right. It's not fun. Like Adam just kills
us all within a few. Like, that's like, I did kill Adam one time. Like he was, he was
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shooting at somebody else and I had a sniper rifle and I hit him from behind one shot,
one kill kind of deal. That's the only way. Yep. And he was like, whoa, what happened?
I was like, I got you. I got you. It was fair and square. I mean, I can, I can quit now.
Yeah. So, um, real quick, uh, before, before, um, I, I, I say what I want to say about,
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um, the, the new game that Noah and I absolutely love. I'm talking about a door playing with
each other, um, along the same lines of Fortnite back when I was in college. So, uh, listeners,
um, I attended, I attended Murray State university from 01 to 06. And in that, in that span of
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time, there was a, um, uh, a computer game company called Epic games and they had games
too. Yeah, they did. And there was a game, there were some Epic games. One, one of, one
of my absolute favorites, there was a PC game was called Unreal Tournament. And Unreal Tournament
is a first person shooter, but it's, it's, all it is, is just like, you know, you can,
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I mean, there's different ways that you can play it. You can do capture the flag. You
can just simply do, you know, time, a timed match. And, and so you just kill as many people
as you can until, until time runs out. But for those of you who remember Unreal Tournament,
I was looking this up, Brad, cause I couldn't remember the name of the video game. And I
was, you know, just thinking about our conversation today. And when it, when it, when it dawned
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on me, I looked it up and Epic games is actually, is actually providing free of charge just
so that they could, just so that they can kind of, um, keep this, the, the, the nostalgia
and the sentiment alive. Um, you can download Unreal Tournament and play it for no charge
at all, because I mean, like they, they, they got rid of it. I think, I think the last update
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that they put on the game is like in 2013. Um, but the game was at its height from, from
like the late nineties to 2004. So anyways, just a fun little fact. All right. All right.
Last thing here, Brad. Um, so, you know, I mentioned that, that we got Noah a Nintendo
Switch at Christmas. Um, I had no idea how awesome this game system was, cause I'd really
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never played one. And you're right. It's so good. So, um, as we mentioned, um, what this
past week or two weeks ago, I guess, um, you know, to our listeners that you and I were
sick and that we were, we were really just homebound if you will, for a week and a half.
So Sharon and I got gobs and gobs of family time together. It was wonderful. Here's how
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we ended every evening. We would like, we'd put Zoe to bed at around eight o'clock, typical
bedtime for her, our youngest listeners, if you're new to the show. And then we turn all
the lights off and we'd sit on the couch for an hour to an hour and a half, me, Noah, Shara
and Addie, and we would all play Super Smash Brothers. Yes. Dude. Oh my gosh. Like it's,
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it, it, it, it is taking me back to my days where I first learned about Super Smash Brothers
when I was in college, cause I never played Super Smash Brothers. Um, and I've learned
how to play it on the GameCube. And then I, when I, like I played it, uh, I found out
that it was on 64. Um, but, oh, it is, it is one of my favorite things already to do
with my son. Yeah. Um, and his too, like we were playing last night. Um, and you know,
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we were doing, we were doing, uh, uh, uh, uh, what is it? Individual, individual battle,
solo battle. And we were doing it with six people, me and him, and then four computers.
Um, but, but Noah just looked at me and said, daddy, can we just play with me and you? Yeah,
just me and you. I just want to beat you up. Oh no, no, no, no. Like that was, that was
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about to say, dude, that was the experience that I had with my dad. Dad did not know how
to play video games because he, because like it was one of these, it was one, it was like
a late addition to him, but you and I grew up playing video games. That's right. Like
I can take note of town on a video game. It's fun. Um, so listeners, we, we hope that you've
enjoyed sort of just our, me and me and Brad recounting, um, our, uh, our, our past with,
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with video games. Clearly we didn't hit everything. Um, but we hope that we hope that you have
enjoyed this video games for, for us. Um, our army really is one of our, you know, one
of our childhood memories. Um, and I never had Sega as I mentioned, um, but I remember
a couple of guys in, you know, that went to school with, we played Mortal Kombat and I
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would just think that these things are awesome. So cool. Um, but, uh, listeners, what we want
to do is we want to hear from you. What is your favorite game? Um, what is your favorite
video game? Do you have one? Do you hate video games? Let us know. It's okay. It's a safe
space. You can follow us on our Facebook, Facebook group page, men's church stuff. Um,
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drops. We, we drop shows. If you're new to show every Monday and Brad, before we go,
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I have continually forgotten to say this, but I need to give a very special shout out
to, to our faithful listener, John Reader. John was listening to an episode of, I think
three or four episodes ago, like around Thanksgiving. And I was, I was telling the listeners about
railbarren. John Reader posted on our Facebook group page that he loves railbarren. And I'm
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sorry, John, that I have completely neglected mentioning that I love that you love railbarren
there. Let's see. You are seriously one of the only people that I have ever con been,
been in contact with in my life that has known about it. I've introduced it to a bunch of
people, but like seriously, if people know about railbarren that I, that I know no one's
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ever told me. So John, I love that you love railbarren. Hope that you get to play it.
Um, uh, hope that you get to play it often. Um, but, uh, Brad, to that point, I hope that
you and I get to play railbarren here soon. Yeah. Um, but, but beyond that, Brad, I love
you buddy. Love you too. Listeners, we love you. We will catch you next time. Game on.
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Game on. Actually wouldn't it be like game off? No, they're going to go game on. They're
going to go game off. Okay.
Welcome. This is the Men Church Stuff Podcast.
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This is the show where brothers-in-law DJ Culp and Brad Coleman talk about stuff from
our perspective as men. It's a show for anyone who wants to hear how Christians interact
with the world. And don't worry, we're real. We've grown up in church and we want to share
our experiences with you. We'll talk life stuff, church stuff, man stuff, and stuff
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stuff. Here we go.
Greetings, listeners here and there and everywhere, all across the land. This is the Men Church
Stuff Podcast. I am one of your hosts, DJ Culp, as always, here with my beloved brother-in-law,
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Brad Coleman. Brad, I did it. There.
You did it.
I got it.
Good job.
I got it in.
All the way through.
It only took three times.
Take three.
Take three.
That's actually a good opening, though, for our discussion today, as we're talking about,
you know, days.
It took three times? Yeah.
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Yeah. It was like, oh my God.
Oh my gosh, dude. Yes.
That level only took me like three, three tries.
I'm so excited to talk about our topic today. So usually, listeners, usually, you know,
if you're regular to the show, we kind of just, you know, we banter back and forth.
We sort of update ourselves with me and Brad. But to be quite honest, so today is February
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3. We actually recorded this the day after we recorded the episode for January 27. So
Brad and I don't really have a lot of update for each other. All right. So let's dive into
today's topic. Today's topic has nothing to do whatsoever with Jesus in church. It is
all stuff. Today's stuff. And Brad, I would be willing to say, I'm curious to hear you
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on this. When we were growing up, our topic today pretty much, pretty much was, was really
more of a guy thing, wasn't it?
For the most part. I mean, it was, it was a rare thing to have gamer girls, I think.
When we were kids.
At least they weren't mainstream.
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And from what I remember, they also weren't very outspoken about it. You know, like, like
gamers now, it's a totally different culture. It's a different world.
Well, it's cool now. I mean, like back in the day, like being a gamer was cool within
a certain circle.
Oh yeah, yes, that's very true.
But not outright popular. Like, you know, most people, oh, you got to get it.
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So you live with your mom, right? You know?
And really, if we're honest, like I was not like the PC gamer very much. I mean, like
I played some Diablo and stuff like that. So I think most of my questions about Diablo
where I'm going is going to even before that, really, because DJ, we kind of like, we predate
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PCs.
We what?
We predate PCs.
Yes, we do.
I'm not saying that they weren't out there, but they weren't mainstream. I think I got
our first, we got our first PC, which was, it was a hand-me-down for somebody else when
I was like 12.
Yeah, but dude, when we were kids, the PC operating system were, it was DOS. So, I mean,
you could play games.
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Games we were playing were a little different.
Yeah. So let's start here, Brad, because this is a really fun memory of mine. It was a summer
school class that our school, that my elementary school was offering as just sort of like an
elective for fun. And I remember my mom asking me if I would be interested in it. And it
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was a computer class. And I was like, I don't know what, I really don't know what that is.
I mean, I know what computers are, but I mean, sure, you know, this, and so this, this class
actually precedes typing class, or not precedes, but excuse me, it predates typing class. So
we had a, we had a room full of Apple IIEs, you know, I don't know if you remember Apple
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IIEs, but they're, they were the black screen with the green blinking cursor. And we, we
learned how to like, how to do command, command execute, you know, like all of those. And
there's so many of those, of those command prompts that I've forgotten. But the very
first video game, Brad, that I ever played on a PC was a little bitty turtle that you
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could move around. Like I remember the, the, the teacher reading out of this book and,
and like, I remember thinking, I don't know what cursors are, but the, the, the teacher
was supposed to do that. That's a sin to be a cursor.
That's right. Especially if your dad's the bastard. But I remember the teacher reading.
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So it says here, if you use the arrows, your turtle will move around on the screen.
Wow. I know. It was amazing. Yes. It was so awesome. You know, one of the first things,
it's not really, it's a game, but it's not like before we had a PC at home, you know,
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we had them like, I remember probably in fourth grade, we did touch typing for beginners.
And it was, it was these games. So they kind of like, they had these typing programs where
it taught you how to type. Yeah. It showed you on the screen, on the keyboard, you know,
where you're pressing, but then you had to, then you would do these games to practice.
And I loved them. And it was like, it was like you were the tortoise and there was a
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hare and it was very simple, you know, and like the faster you typed, the, the, like
the turtle would go and like you were trying to beat the hare. But if you like, if you
made an error, it didn't count. So it didn't move. So you had to do this. Now here's the
thing and gamers been doing this forever. Yeah. We, we realized that if you lost a couple
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rounds that the hare would go slower. So you, so you play the system. It kind of reset.
Yeah. And so then you're like, whoop, it's butt. Even if you make mistakes. That's right.
So it's like, you know, you deliberately throw a couple rounds and like, yeah, look at me.
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You get that hare going so slow because it thinks you're just an idiot. So it's like,
so the game like that, that I remember is actually, it wasn't the tortoise and a hare,
but you were like, like a sprinter, like on a, on a track. Yeah. There were several, there
were several different games. Yeah. And they were like high tech at the time. They were
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awesome. That was actually one of my favorite typing games. Um, and anytime, like, so, so
as you typed, your little person would run faster. But if you, if you typed the wrong
letter, your person would fall down. Um, and this is me, Brad, and I'm sure listeners,
if you guys are gamers, first of all, um, let us know if you grew up, you know, loving
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video games like Brad and I, um, but my favorite thing to do if I got bored was, all right,
well how ridiculous can this get? And so I would just start, I would just start typing
just dumb random letters just to see how fast I could make my person fall down. Like, I
didn't care about winning anymore. The teacher is getting this little print out at the end
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of the day. And it's like DJ needs, wow. Yeah. He, I've never seen a kid do this bad. So,
so you understand what these letters are? That's right. So words. So Brad, our topic
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today is video games. Um, I want to start it out with my favorite video game memory
of all time. Okay. It is actually my, uh, it's when I got my, my first video game console.
Um, I was in second grade. So if I do the math right, what is second grade, eight years
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old. So it was 1990, um, 1989, 1990s. And, um, I got for Christmas and, uh, in NES and
listeners, if you have no idea what that is, that's a Nintendo entertainment system. If
you still have no idea what that is, go find out. Please. You know what Nintendo is? Yeah.
I doubt there's very many people out there is like, what's Nintendo? Yeah. No, no, I'm
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not talking about the brand. I'm talking about in any. Yes. I know. So there's something
to do with Nintendo. Does it poke him on? Not back then. It wasn't a Pokemon. So Brad,
my very first video game that I ever had, cause like back then you remember, I mean,
still they still do this, but you know, you get a console and usually comes with the game.
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The bundle had excite bike in it. Did you ever play excite bikes? Yes. Yes. Cause again,
like I didn't, like I got all these things like hand me down. Once the new systems came
in, like the first new system I got was the SNES and that was when it was the N64 was
coming out and it was clearanced. And so like my parents got it for me for Christmas when
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it got clearanced. I was so excited. That's one of the best gifts. Matter of fact, I had
that until just a couple of years ago when I gave it to my brother who still has that
SNES. Still works. Such a good game console. Yeah. So, but yeah, my cousins had excite
bikes. So I'd go over to their house and just play, you know, and loved where you could
just build your own course. I know. You know, you could do those crazy. How high could you
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jump and you like, you could, you could like, if you, if you angled it right, your rear
wheel could knock over your opponents. And the kids, kids today don't understand because
like this is the simplest. It was so simple that sometimes the, like if they're taking
a course in school on creating like, you know, games or something like that, cause I know
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like, you know, Hannah's doing this simple little, they're kind of teaching kids to code
in this one class that she's doing, but with very simple level. And I'm like, that was
what excite bike was. Like you could probably be coding it. I mean, you're not wrong, man.
Excite bike in its essence was, was just basic. I mean, but it was brilliant. It was, and
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dude, it was so entertaining. Right. Like for us, cause it was, it was like, there was,
we'd never done anything. Yeah. That's exactly right. Like an Atari. I don't, I don't, if
we ever had an Atari, I don't remember it. And Atari, and again, for us in the kids that
they won't even get this, but Atari was like, those types of games made their comeback when
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cell phones first had a screen. You play like snake. That was like the Atari. It was just
like, okay, here's some couple of pixels. We can do a few things. Yeah. You know, it's
it's simple. It's not, you know, just see how long you can keep the snake from running
into itself. That's yeah. I love that game by the way. All right. So that's my, that's
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my absolute favorite video game memory. What's yours? So it involves my cousin Chris and
it involves before I actually had it at any kind of system because he had a Nintendo.
My cousin Chris is several years older than me. Like when I was little, he was in high
school. Um, but I go down to his house cause they live just a couple of houses down and
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he would play Super Mario Brothers three. And so he was really good at it and he played
it for a long time. Matter of fact, I learned a lot of the secrets just watching him play
through. I would just sit there and watch him play through Super Mario three. Well,
I don't know if you know this, but when you beat Super Mario three, it starts over. Yeah.
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You just replay the worlds, but you start with like the P wings, the forever like flying
away. I didn't know that. Like you get like two whole, at least two whole, like your whole
inventory is full of those. Wow. And so he would beat it and, and I don't know if he
did this multiple times, but like it felt like it, like I know that like, so he would
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beat it and then he'd hand it to me so I could play and I got to start with these, these
power up wings, these P wings that would just eternally fly through a level. And then you
finished the level and it was just a regular, you know, like flying kind of Mario, but you
still had, you could, you could use another one until you use them up. And it was, so
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it was so cool. Yeah. And here is like, again, it was just my older cousin whom I thought
was like one of the coolest guys I've ever met. I still do Chris, if you're listening,
I still think you're one of the coolest guys I've ever met. And shout out to Chris. Yeah.
He would just, but yeah, he'd beat it and then he'd just let me play. Yeah. You know,
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and he went to there and watched me very long. He's going to go do his thing. But I mean,
like, I just thought that was the coolest thing ever. And that's cool. Never, never
forgotten that. So yeah, that's probably my, my favorite, like in game, especially like
when I look at like first, you know, but there's one thing about Chris is Chris, you know,
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Chris is just a nice guy and he always taught me, you know, he taught me things. He treated
me with respect, even though I was just weird little kid, you know, he never made me feel
like, I mean, like he would tease me like cousins are, cause cousins are supposed to
do that, you know, a little bit, but I never felt like, like he was critical of me. I always
felt like his teasing was, was including me. That's fun. You know, and, and like, and I,
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I'm not, I'm going to pick on any of my other cousins, but like not all of my cousins made
me feel that way. I can relate. So, so, um, you asked me to write some questions. Yeah,
dude. So here's my first question. Okay. DJ, how did you figure out secrets before YouTube
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and Google? Like all of these games, they have, they have the secrets you got to figure
out or the secret way you got to beat the level. Yeah. So there are, there were, couldn't
just, couldn't just YouTube it and watch another guy do it. You're exactly right. Um, all right.
So first of all, let me say this. I, uh, before, before I bought a Nintendo 64 with my own
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money, when I was a, I don't know, sophomore, junior in high school, I think, um, I did
not actually have another game console beyond the NES. So like the, the, the four, four
consoles that I've ever owned my entire life include the NES, the 64, I still have the
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64, the Nintendo Wii, which we just replaced this Christmas and, and I don't own it technically.
Um, but like we, we got no, uh, a, uh, a Nintendo switch. So I'm Nintendo through and through,
oh, so good. But yeah, I am Nintendo through and through. So to answer your question, a
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lot of the, and really the majority of the games that I owned did not have a lot of those
secrets built in, uh, with the exception of Super Mario Brothers. Um, and to answer that
question using Super Mario Brothers, how did I figure out the secrets? By complete accident.
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By like, and, and not even, not even trial and error. Like the very first time or one
of the very first times that I ever found a one up is just because I just happened to
jump at the right time in the right place. And I thought, wait a minute, there's these
things in the game. And that's when I started just jumping all over the place. Like I got
to find another one. Um, does this pipe lead to anything? Yeah, I know. Right. You're trying
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every pipe. Can I, is it really possible to, you know, jump off the screen and then not
come down and think, wait a minute, can I move? And then you just start running and
like everything's moving below you and dude, this is a secret, a secret passage. What have
I stumbled upon? Yeah, that's how I did it. I think it's in Super Mario Brothers three,
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there's a secret where you, like if you go down the sand, like quick sand, like most
of the time you reach the bottom, you die. But there's a couple where you reach the bottom
and it drops into a secret room. Oh, see, that's so cool, man. It is. And you know,
and sometimes like you found that by thinking you were going to die. It's exactly right.
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Well, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess they intended that back then, right? Again, cause
you didn't have people like doing YouTube videos and oh, hey, go to the third one and
and this is what it is. No, you're like, oh man, I'm gonna, I'm dead. I'm dead. Oh wait,
no, there's like a one up. Yeah. Now I will say this. I only ever did this once cause
I had a friend who had one, but did you ever hear of the game genie? I, I, I've heard them
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of them. I never had one. I never knew anybody that I played with that had one. So, so the
game genie came with like just a book full of codes that, that you could unlock, like
how ways to cheat. And there was one of my absolute favorite games to play in the NES
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is called super C. So there was Contra and then there was super Contra. I didn't have,
I didn't have the original Contra, but I had super C and dude, super C is so freaking hard,
man. It's like just having to dodge bullets, knowing, knowing like, all right, I need this
gun for these, for these bad guys, that gun for that bad guy. And I could never beat the
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thing. So my friend, Kyle Lassar, my best friend in elementary school, Kyle, dude, if
you're out there, I, I, I would love to be able to catch up with you, man. But anyways,
Kyle brought his game genie over and to be quite honest, I didn't have any fun with it
because I was like, I wasn't earning anything. And if there's anything that I really like,
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I don't want to, I don't want this to be like a, you know, soap box. But like a filibuster,
that's what I was trying to think of. There is something about a lot of the games now
because of first of all, they're online platforms, but also because of, you know, all you have
to do is go to YouTube or, or, you know, just, just try to find other videos elsewhere of
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people telling you how to play these games. There's not a lot of, there's not a lot of
like risk reward. You know, like, how do I, how do I beat this level? I'll just go, I'll
just go watch somebody who's already done it versus how do I beat this level? I don't
know. I guess I have to start the game over. Yeah. There were a lot of things too that
like when other people had played those games, you know, I picked, I picked up stuff from
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other people, like watching Chris, like I was like, Oh, I would have never known if
I just bust that block and fly up there that there's a whole new, like half a level up
there. Right. So watching or talking to other guys or over here and people talk about, Oh,
hey, did you know this? Yeah. So there was, there was that communication. And it was,
and from that, from that standpoint, there was really a lot more community that was involved,
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that was involved in talking about the game, but also, like you were saying, also playing
the game in like, I mean, with only two players with the NES and super NES had four, if I
remember right, had four ports, didn't it? No, it hadn't, it came standard with two.
I think that's when they, they had, they had games. I think they had like some stuff you
could buy to, to make it for. Got it. Okay. I was, I had in my head that, that it had
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four, but the N64 had, had four ports. Yeah. And that was like kind of the first time you
could do like quads and like a game like, you know, so I remember we had a double eye,
Goldeneye, which was, you know, great. And, you know, that was the Fortnite that was at
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Fortnite. Yep. Then you could get together, you could play, you could play one-on-one,
you could play up to four people. Now, obviously you're all looking at the same screen. So,
so there's that. It's really, it's really easy to cheat. I know where you're at. Stop
cheating. I know. Stop looking at me. You know, so there's, there was no like hidden
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there. It was kind of the honor system and we weren't always honorable. Yeah. And even
if you tried to be, I mean, it's kind of hard not to, it's kind of hard not to see the square
next to yours. That's just right there. But yeah, we had so much fun with that. My brother
would destroy me. My little brother, my brother's five years younger than me. My little brother
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would destroy me at those games. That's fun. That's funny. You get such better aim, all
that. I just remember one time I had the golden gun. Yeah. Guys, if you don't know this, if
you had the golden gun and double Goldeneye 007, it was a one shot, one kill. If you shot
him in the hand, he's dead. Grazed him. He's dead. He's dead. I had the golden gun. I
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had found the golden gun and I, and he still beat me. Like I ran in, I'm going to like
just, but he had, he had just this killer killer aim. So one of the things I learned,
and again, this is my little brother, which is, Bob's always been, you know, he's always
been sharp with that kind of thing, especially. And I had to use a different technique. I
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could not beat him gun for gun. Like if we're having a okay corral situation, I'm dead.
So I had to play it smart. They had these proximity mines. I knew you were going to
say that. I was like, so you're the booby trap guy. I would booby trap it. Yes. And
like, and, and I learned, cause he's smart, right? So he would learn to look for them
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and you could shoot them and set them off and they blow up. That's exactly right. So
I learned just how, how close I could get the next mine without it being set off by
the first mine. That's awesome, dude. And then I would kind of hide it, but enough so
like he could see the first one, you know, but, but it didn't look like I was just sitting
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it, you know, and, and so he'd be like, Oh yeah. And then he hit it and then he'd run
right into the second mine. I just remember him being like, stop doing that. No, I'm not
going to stop doing that. That's part of the strategy. And that's, that's, that's another
thing about like, you know, FPS is first person shooters that, that I kind of, I mean, I'll
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play them, but I miss, I miss kind of like the, the strategy, the slow sort of the slow,
the slow burn of, of like the double of seven, you know, where you have to move slowly. You
have to be extremely strategic. And I mean, like you would know this way more than more
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than more than me, because I know that you, I've heard you talk that, that you and Isaiah
play is it call of duty? Is that what it is? So we did call it duty for a while. And then
I kind of got the new call of duty came out and then they kind of just like dropped the
old one. Like you can still play it, but it like lagged a lot and longer. I mean, it's
really evident that they were intentionally doing this. So you buy the newest one. Right.
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And then, you know, it's like 60, 70 bucks. And then a year later they come out, like
there's, there's two versions since we stopped playing that have come out. And I was just
like, I'm done. Yeah. I'm done with that, that, that garbage of, you know, and so I
didn't play anything for a while. And then Ninja Turtles came into Fortnite and the kids
were playing and I was like, wait, Ninja Turtles are, I can get a Ninja Turtle skin. So I can
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play as Leonardo now cause I, I purchased this Leonardo skin with my adult money. So
I now also can be Boba Fett. I can be a football player. I can put my number on, you know,
all kinds of, I mean, they know how to make money. Here's the beautiful thing that I do
like about Fortnite, right? And there's, there's, there's some downsides. So like, I'm not saying,
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oh yeah, Fortnite's awesome. But the thing I like about it is all of the skins and all
of the cool stuff that you get, none of them, as far as I know, give you any kind of extra
oomph in the game. It's just the way you look. It's just the way you look. Yeah. You know,
so it's in that sense, it's not pay to play. Like even like you get these car skins, all
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it does is make your car look cooler. Yeah. Doesn't make it go faster. So the end game
dynamic doesn't change based on the character that you're playing. Right. You know, and
I like that. So you don't, you don't start with a better gun. You got to learn where
the better guns are found and then the maps keep changing. And so then it's like, oh,
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well now it's not here anymore. That part I don't like because as soon as I figure out
these things, it seems like it's like, what, were you just waiting on me? All right. This
is where that was that everybody else knew. Cause you know, I don't think about, oh, I
should go to YouTube. At least not very often. I don't like watching other people play games
and there's nothing fun about that. Why, why do I want to sit and watch you play with a
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toy? You know, like, you know, though there is the adult version of that, the non-gamer
adult version of that, you know, it's a fishing. No, it's well, yeah. I mean, that was, yeah.
HGTV, you know, let's buy this house and let's flip it. Let's, let's fix it up. Hey, look,
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let's watch this guy read renovate a kitchen. You know, Brad, I'm never going to renovate
my kitchen. That's a really good point because football, baseball, basketball, let's watch
other people do things I'm not doing. So, and I'll be honest, I've never thought about
that. I kind of hate you for that. Well, I hadn't either. And I was like being really
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critical of my kids, like, cause they were just watching. I was like, look, you got Minecraft,
stop watching people play Minecraft. I mean, like, if you're going to watch people, I'm
like, it's fine, go watch the video to see how to do something and go in and do it. And
then I'm like, I'm not even praying about it. Cause I was like, you know, I want my
kids to not be dumb and do dumb stuff. I mean, they're going to do dumb stuff. But you know,
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I could pray about everything. And so I prayed about it. And I'm like, so then I met my moms
shortly after that. And we're sitting there watching these people look at these houses
to buy and talk about what they're going to do to fix it up. You know, and then the next
show is, oh, it's a fixer up show. And I'm, and it was like, it was like, God was like,
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you know, you do this is kind of like what your kids are doing, isn't it? That's kind
of the same thing. And I'm like, oh, it is, it is gone. And it did it totally. It totally
changed my perspective on it. Now I still don't like, yeah. I think what it did was
make me want to watch those shows less. I was like, yeah, oh, that's right. Oh, dumb.
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But again, as we do, we, we like to watch those. I mean, like, if you think about it,
what are movies? You know, we're, we're kind of doing the same thing. You know, I don't
know about you, but I'm on some level being like, oh yeah, that'd be that guy right there.
That's kind of me. Yeah. Oh no, I wouldn't have done that.
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All right. So to that point, this is, this is something that I was thinking about for
you. If you like, is there, is there a, a, a video game or like a video game character
or something like that, that you just fell in love with that you, that you I'm not going
to say, I mean, maybe identified with, I think that's a weird way to word it, but like, is
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there something that you would always run to because you connected with that particular
game probably more so than anything else? Well, you know, like I never had a whole lot
of games, like even when like, so I got the super Nintendo entertainment system, the SNES.
And again, I got it when it was getting, you know, I got it for Christmas. It was, and
I wanted one. I played it at my friend's house. So I loved Super Mario world, but I had that
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and like maybe three or four other games and some of them were just really horrible games.
Like I had this one game, it was like a soccer game, but it wasn't, you didn't play soccer.
It was like soccer ball was your weapon and you went through these stupid levels and it
was just, it was not very fun and it was super difficult and it was just like, yeah. And,
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but, but again, like my, my parents got what they could afford and oh, that game was like
five, you know, five bucks or whatever, or whatever it was when it was clear. I think,
I think there was like a $5 bin or something at Walmart for a while, you know, and it was
these games that, you know, well, people weren't going to pay a lot money for cause they suck.
No offense, no offense against whoever it was like FIFA world or whatever, but it was
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like the whole idea was that they had crashed on their plane and like was in the middle
of the jungle. And so they were fighting all of these like jungle things, but also like
bad guys that were like, you know, I don't know if they were drug dealers or whatever,
but you know, guns and stuff with your soccer ball. Like with your soccer ball. Yeah, it
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was, it was pretty, pretty dumb. So, but the game that I really got into and loved so much
other than Super Mario Brothers three, which that was on NES with Super Mario Brothers
world and with Yoshi and all that. And then you could get the different color Yoshi's
such a good game. You know, once I finally got into like star road and was able to get
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the different, get the red Yoshi, get the yellow Yoshi and all of those things. And
they each had different like, you know, powers, you know, the red one, you could shoot fire.
The yellow one was kind of lame. It kind of just did like a super stomp, you know, but
you had to be really close. I never utilized that a lot, but then you had the purple Yoshi,
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which could fly. I didn't know that. Yeah. Like you, so you get, so if you got a purple
shell, any Yoshi can fly, but if you got a purple Yoshi or maybe blue, it looked purple
on my screen. I think now it was blue. It was blue. But I always called it purple Yoshi
because it looked purple on my old TV. But he would get a shell, any shell, and then
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like he could fly for the duration. Now after a while he would swallow the shell and then
he'd lose the ability or you could spit it out and he'd lose the ability. So you had
to be careful there, but yeah, he could like fly like, and it was, it was an amazing ability.
So I would just, you know, I have this level that was really hard that I wasn't able to
beat. I'm like, okay, I'm going to go back and we go to star road. I'm going to get this
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Yoshi and I'm going to fly past that part. So, and then I thought accomplished because
in star road, there's like a secret set of levels, which are the five, I think there's
five of them, like most difficult levels in the game. They're incredibly difficult. They
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stressed me out. But once I finally beat them, as I finally figured out how to beat them,
it was, I felt so accomplished. And there, I think is one of the things that we lose,
right? I didn't have a YouTube video to go watch. The sense of accomplishment. That's
why I said like, I had to die 87 times. Yes. Yeah. The, the, what is it? What did I, how
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did I word it? But like there's a risk and reward, you know, like, like you were saying
you had to die. How many times to figure that out? There was a walk away and come back the
next day. Yeah. That's exactly right. Yes. I'm like, I, there's like little, little Koopa
that was like dressed as a football player and he would like throw these footballs and
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like, it's, he's so far away. He's over here and he's just constantly throwing these footballs.
And it looks like there's absolutely no way to get across. And like, like if football
hits you, it's like, you know, if you're little, it kills you. If not, it makes you little.
You're, you're, you're sitting here trying to do all this and it's like, this is impossible.
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There's no shell for the, the blue purple Yoshi to eat, to get across. You know, you're
trying to do all of these things and I would get mad and I just have to stop playing and
come back and try again later. Yeah. And then, you know, I finally figure out the secret
to doing it. I don't want to ruin it for anybody that may go back and play that. So I had this
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game that I do. I loved to play. It was so cool. It was called bionic commando and bionic
commando, like you were, you were a soldier and you were basically like, like it was,
it was set in, in like not world war two, but it was set you against basically Nazis.
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I mean, they, they look like Nazis. They were dressed like Nazis. They're like a lot of
the, a lot of the, like the logos and the, and the, and the symbols for, for this, you
know, the sect of people would remind you of, of some of the Nazi symbols. Anyways, I can't
remember if it's level seven, nine or 11. It's one of, it's one of those odd numbers
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throughout, throughout the game, you would collect radio packs, you know, like, uh, then
again in world war two, when, you know, if you were a radio guy, you would radio in airstrikes,
whatever you like, you could collect those and they were in your inventory. Well, you
have, you clearly have the right to just be like, well, I don't, you know, I'm not worried
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about that. I just want to get through the level. So at the beginning of one of these
levels you start out with this really, with a really tall, like an eye beam, you know,
like that, that you would, that construction workers would use. This is just tall eye beam
that you cannot get through. You can't shoot it. You've got the, the premise of the game
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is that you, one of your arms is, is a, uh, uh, I was like a retracting claw that you
can stretch out. You can cling things, you can swing. Um, but like it doesn't, it doesn't
grapple and what you can't do is you can't leave the level. So you are literally stuck
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there unless you have the right radio pack with you. And here's how I figured it out
by pure dumb luck, but I had to, I had to actually press reset on my game multiple times
and just start over. Because I mean, like if you leave, if, if, if, again, you can't
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leave the level, but like, if you, if you look at your inventory and you have, you have,
um, like chosen one of the wrong colors radio packs, or if you just, if you just bypass
it entirely, I mean, you're out of luck. Like there's nothing you can do. So yeah, I'm,
I'm really with you on that one, that there's, there was so much reward when you've really
figured it out.
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Well, and like we played games before there were save files. Yeah. I mean, like super
Mario world had save files and a lot, but I mean, like you look at some of those games,
like you can't turn off super Mario brothers three in the NES system and come back and
be where you were. No, or any of the other ones for that matter. And what was the worst
was the worst is when it froze. Oh, like you're doing well. You're, you're, you're on level
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five or something. And all of a sudden you jump and the screen just goes, and you hear
diddle diddle. Yeah. Oh yeah. And it's like, no, no, I know dude. Um, that's awesome.
I know. Oh, back when that was the worst thing in life, you know, the worst thing that ever
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happened to it. My life is over. So the kind of games that I didn't realize that I love
and it probably because when I was a kid, it's just not how, how I, my brain worked
and how, you know, I really found enjoyment. Um, and I know I've said this recently, um,
on, on, on the show, but once I hit college and I started playing, like I was actually
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a PC gamer. Now I didn't have tons and tons of stuff, but I loved the, the, the, the,
the online platform with, with first person shooters. Um, but there was, there was a game
that came out that completely changed how I began to think, wow, I really like these
types of games. This game was called Morrowind and Morrowind was a fantasy game. Um, and
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it was a Blizzard. I think Blizzard is, uh, is the game company that made it. Um, and
they made a lot of good games. They made Diablo. You fight the devil, by the way. You're not
the devil. Yeah, you're not the devil. You fight the devil. That's right. For anybody
that's Uber conservative and think that, that Diablo is a, is a demonic game. No, you're,
you're killing demons. Anyways, dude, Diablo is hard, but, um, I remember with Morrowind,
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a friend of mine got it and I would stay up until three and four o'clock in the morning
doing nothing but playing Morrowind. So here's, here's the rules of Morrowind. Ready? There
aren't. You can, you can open world. Yes, it's open world. You can go anywhere you want.
You can kill anybody you want to. It is possible to actually kill every single thing in the
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game. And you would be the only thing left living. Um, and I re I began to realize like,
dude, this is addicting. I don't want to stop playing because there's always something else
to do. And that's when I began to realize, I don't think that I can, I like, I need to,
I need to, to, to press pause on video games. I can't, I can't play like true open world
(39:20):
games like Isaiah can. It's fine. He's doing some of these Zelda. He's paid. He's bought
it. Saved up his own money. Is so awesome. But, and then like, you know, it's just like,
like, there's like this open world Zelda that he's playing. He enjoys it. He loves it. Paid
for it with his own money. Yeah. You know, um, my buddy Angelo and him will talk about
(39:45):
it. You know, he'll tell me about it, but I'm like, I'm kind of like, okay, cool. Yeah.
I don't know what that is, but yeah. Um, and it sounds like a lot of fun, but I also know
I can't do it. Like I, I get lost in those games and I lose, I lose like track of time
(40:05):
and reality and I've spent way too much time with really nothing to show for it. I beat
that boss. And yes, at the moment it felt like it was the most important thing in the
history of ever. But you know, looking back, it's like, yeah, okay. I spent how long? One
of the things I love about one of the things I love about fortnight, um, because it's a,
(40:31):
it's somewhat open world, but you know, it's there's some different things, but I can play
with my brother. Like recently, like I had stopped playing for, for a while cause, cause
I need to be playing with somebody else so that when they quit, I quit. Yeah, that's
right. We call that accountability. Yeah. Right. Otherwise, you know, I will play way too long. Yeah.
(40:55):
Um, but it's really fun cause like, it's just, I probably six months to a year I hadn't played.
And then my brother started playing with his kids and he was like, Hey, um, you don't play
fortnight. So, so now like over the last, especially like, I think it really started
with like, we were all in the snow, right? Cause they were snowed in, we were snowed
(41:17):
in like just a week or so ago. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So, and so since then, you know, probably
six, eight times I've played fortnight with my brother or I played fortnight with my niece
and nephew played fortnight with my brother, my niece and my nephew and my nieces boyfriend,
who is like the guy you want on your team and the guy you definitely don't want not
(41:43):
on your team. Cause like, it's like, okay, um, Adam, the rest of us are dead. We need
you to come and revive us and kill these four people that just slaughtered us. And then
he would like, like only like one time, I think did those people ever get him and it'd
be like four on one and he'd just be like, okay, I got your guys' cards. I'm going to
(42:08):
reboot you. It's like, thanks. And he would, he would never hang with us cause he was out
slaughtering groups of four, you know, across the map. It's like, at the end, how many kills
did, how many kills did you get? Oh, I got three. Oh, I got four. He's like, oh, I got
43. I think it was the most he ever said. I got 43. There's a hundred people in the
game and we're four of them. And it's, yeah. And so it was like, um, we just divide Adam's
(42:34):
score by 10. Yeah. Right. You got 4.3. That's your handicap. You got 4.3 kills Adam. He's
like, okay, that's fair. He's, he's nice kid. And, uh, oh, that's good. But we played this
one game where it was just us because you can only play four at a time. And so Isaiah
was, was on and then I was on and my brother and my niece, my nephew and Adam. And so I
(43:01):
think Carrie Beth may have played. Yeah. And Carrie Beth. So here we are, all these people.
So we found this game in Fortnite where it was just us against each other. Yeah. We had
to kick Adam out. This just wasn't fun. Yeah. Right. It's not fun. Like Adam just kills
us all within a few. Like, that's like, I did kill Adam one time. Like he was, he was
(43:23):
shooting at somebody else and I had a sniper rifle and I hit him from behind one shot,
one kill kind of deal. That's the only way. Yep. And he was like, whoa, what happened?
I was like, I got you. I got you. It was fair and square. I mean, I can, I can quit now.
Yeah. So, um, real quick, uh, before, before, um, I, I, I say what I want to say about,
(43:51):
um, the, the new game that Noah and I absolutely love. I'm talking about a door playing with
each other, um, along the same lines of Fortnite back when I was in college. So, uh, listeners,
um, I attended, I attended Murray State university from 01 to 06. And in that, in that span of
(44:11):
time, there was a, um, uh, a computer game company called Epic games and they had games
too. Yeah, they did. And there was a game, there were some Epic games. One, one of, one
of my absolute favorites, there was a PC game was called Unreal Tournament. And Unreal Tournament
is a first person shooter, but it's, it's, all it is, is just like, you know, you can,
(44:36):
I mean, there's different ways that you can play it. You can do capture the flag. You
can just simply do, you know, time, a timed match. And, and so you just kill as many people
as you can until, until time runs out. But for those of you who remember Unreal Tournament,
I was looking this up, Brad, cause I couldn't remember the name of the video game. And I
was, you know, just thinking about our conversation today. And when it, when it, when it dawned
(44:57):
on me, I looked it up and Epic games is actually, is actually providing free of charge just
so that they could, just so that they can kind of, um, keep this, the, the, the nostalgia
and the sentiment alive. Um, you can download Unreal Tournament and play it for no charge
at all, because I mean, like they, they, they got rid of it. I think, I think the last update
(45:18):
that they put on the game is like in 2013. Um, but the game was at its height from, from
like the late nineties to 2004. So anyways, just a fun little fact. All right. All right.
Last thing here, Brad. Um, so, you know, I mentioned that, that we got Noah a Nintendo
Switch at Christmas. Um, I had no idea how awesome this game system was, cause I'd really
(45:40):
never played one. And you're right. It's so good. So, um, as we mentioned, um, what this
past week or two weeks ago, I guess, um, you know, to our listeners that you and I were
sick and that we were, we were really just homebound if you will, for a week and a half.
So Sharon and I got gobs and gobs of family time together. It was wonderful. Here's how
(46:03):
we ended every evening. We would like, we'd put Zoe to bed at around eight o'clock, typical
bedtime for her, our youngest listeners, if you're new to the show. And then we turn all
the lights off and we'd sit on the couch for an hour to an hour and a half, me, Noah, Shara
and Addie, and we would all play Super Smash Brothers. Yes. Dude. Oh my gosh. Like it's,
(46:26):
it, it, it, it is taking me back to my days where I first learned about Super Smash Brothers
when I was in college, cause I never played Super Smash Brothers. Um, and I've learned
how to play it on the GameCube. And then I, when I, like I played it, uh, I found out
that it was on 64. Um, but, oh, it is, it is one of my favorite things already to do
with my son. Yeah. Um, and his too, like we were playing last night. Um, and you know,
(46:52):
we were doing, we were doing, uh, uh, uh, uh, what is it? Individual, individual battle,
solo battle. And we were doing it with six people, me and him, and then four computers.
Um, but, but Noah just looked at me and said, daddy, can we just play with me and you? Yeah,
just me and you. I just want to beat you up. Oh no, no, no, no. Like that was, that was
(47:18):
about to say, dude, that was the experience that I had with my dad. Dad did not know how
to play video games because he, because like it was one of these, it was one, it was like
a late addition to him, but you and I grew up playing video games. That's right. Like
I can take note of town on a video game. It's fun. Um, so listeners, we, we hope that you've
enjoyed sort of just our, me and me and Brad recounting, um, our, uh, our, our past with,
(47:44):
with video games. Clearly we didn't hit everything. Um, but we hope that we hope that you have
enjoyed this video games for, for us. Um, our army really is one of our, you know, one
of our childhood memories. Um, and I never had Sega as I mentioned, um, but I remember
a couple of guys in, you know, that went to school with, we played Mortal Kombat and I
(48:07):
would just think that these things are awesome. So cool. Um, but, uh, listeners, what we want
to do is we want to hear from you. What is your favorite game? Um, what is your favorite
video game? Do you have one? Do you hate video games? Let us know. It's okay. It's a safe
space. You can follow us on our Facebook, Facebook group page, men's church stuff. Um,
(48:30):
you can also follow us on Instagram at men church stuff. Contact us, let us know what
you think about the show. Um, subscribe to the show. If you're, if you're listening on
iTunes or Spotify, make sure that you, that you click subscribe so that, um, so that you,
you're like, you, you're aware your phone will automatically notify you when a new show
drops. We, we drop shows. If you're new to show every Monday and Brad, before we go,
(48:54):
I have continually forgotten to say this, but I need to give a very special shout out
to, to our faithful listener, John Reader. John was listening to an episode of, I think
three or four episodes ago, like around Thanksgiving. And I was, I was telling the listeners about
railbarren. John Reader posted on our Facebook group page that he loves railbarren. And I'm
(49:17):
sorry, John, that I have completely neglected mentioning that I love that you love railbarren
there. Let's see. You are seriously one of the only people that I have ever con been,
been in contact with in my life that has known about it. I've introduced it to a bunch of
people, but like seriously, if people know about railbarren that I, that I know no one's
(49:39):
ever told me. So John, I love that you love railbarren. Hope that you get to play it.
Um, uh, hope that you get to play it often. Um, but, uh, Brad, to that point, I hope that
you and I get to play railbarren here soon. Yeah. Um, but, but beyond that, Brad, I love
you buddy. Love you too. Listeners, we love you. We will catch you next time. Game on.
(50:05):
Game on. Actually wouldn't it be like game off? No, they're going to go game on. They're
going to go game off. Okay.
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