Why Do Horrible People Flock To Religion?

Why does it always seem like horrible, evil, narcissistic people are attracted to organized religions?

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
So why do narcissists love religion so much?
That's what we talk about today.Y'all.
We talk about we, we happen right into it.
Because guess what? Truth be told, I recorded this
video yesterday, went to upload it, try to put it in my editing
software and it was mute. I have muted the video.
I have mute man fact. Let me make sure they muted this

(00:21):
time. Let me make sure.
OK, here's your recording. Sound is on there y'all.
You understand how frustrated itcan be.
I had to. I prayed.
I was like, Lord, help me. Yeah, we talked about narcissism
in religion today. Why a lot of narcissists flock
to religion, why narcissistic people hop onto the religion,
bus the religion train and pretend to be religious.

(00:45):
Now, let me preface this video. Let me go ahead and lead this
video off by saying this is not in any way, shape or form an
attack on any type of organized religion, Christianity, any
other religion, any like my Muslim brothers and sisters, my
Hindu folks, my Sikhs, anybody out there.
This is not an attack on your religion, but this is me opening

(01:09):
the eyes of people to let you know why narcissists flock to
pretend to be religious, why they flock to and infiltrate
religious communities so much, right?
This happens to so it happens all the time.
I actually got this question on,I think it was, I saw it on
threads. It said why do narcissists flock

(01:29):
to religion? And somebody said, hey, because
they love being unnecessarily forgiven, especially in
Christianity, because Christianity teaches people to
forgive, right? So in my mind, as a narcissist,
you're supposed to forgive me for any and everything that I
do. There is no leap there.
There's no insurance. And out you, you're supposed to

(01:50):
forgive me for anything that I do, anything right.
I, as someone who has read the Bible, know that that's not
right. I know that forgive, you're not
supposed to be forgiven for anything.
And I also understand that forgiveness and reconciliation
do not go hand in hand. Just because someone forgives

(02:12):
you does not mean that they haveto reconcile with you.
I as in as somebody diagnosed with narcissistic personality
disorder and as someone who has read the entire Bible from
Genesis to Revelations and is who has read the entire Quran as
well, I know that forgiveness does not mean you have to get
back with somebody. That's not how narcissists
think, though. They think that forgiveness
equals reconciliation. How you going to forgive me?

(02:34):
You're not going to let me back into your life?
God. God says you're supposed to let
me back in your life. And look at you being a heathen,
being a whore. I knew I cheated, but you're a
whore. What?
What? What this I was just telling
you, this is how a lot of narcissists think.

(02:55):
We think that we're supposed to be forgiven for whatever we do
if we pretend to be Christian, if we go to church, if we read
the Bible, if, if, if. There's a lot of ifs there,
right when I posted the short video of this to my TikTok and
stuff, I got some people in my comments.
I got people literally messagingme like Lee, you need to stop
attacking Christians. You don't know what you're

(03:17):
talking about. I'm like, what the hell are you
talking about? Nowhere in my videos have I ever
said Christianity is a bad thing.
I said narcissism. Narcissists use they weaponize
Christianity or their understanding of it against good
actual Christians. And we know good actual
Christians, especially in today's world, especially in
America, are few and far betweenthe, the nowadays we have a lot

(03:38):
of narcissistic people that, that have hijacked Christianity
and put their own fucked up version of it out there.
Willie, how you going to say fucking Christian that the, the
Christians out there that are they're fake Christians are
doing a lot worse than cussing. They're weaponizing the
religion. They're just using their
religion to cover up their evil ass deeds or their selfish
intent. And they're just like, you know

(03:59):
what God said? The guy didn't say that.
Show me, show me where God said that at.
Show me where God said that. People be making out.
Narcissists make shit up about religion.
They just do. They absolutely do.
They make it up on the fly. Sometimes they'll misinterpret
versus just on purpose to keep people with them, to manipulate

(04:22):
people further, to do a lot moredamage to people.
That this is the mindset. I promise you.
I promise you. I promise you.
There are so, so many narcissistic people out there
who just handle situations like this.
I promise you, but don't let it work.
Y'all don't? Y'all don't know what's about to

(04:42):
happen. Oh rant the bubble.
I haven't had one of these in a while.
I'm back. Look, we as real Christians,
authentic Christians, have to dobetter at vetting the people we
allow into our spaces. If you see some BS, call it out.
If you're in charge of a church,if you are pastor and you see

(05:03):
one, one or more of your congregation being evil, call
them out. Kick them out right?
You were supposed to cast out evil, not just constantly
forgive it and have it around the good folks.
If you had one bad apple can spoil the bunch.
You let a black apple, black hearted narcissist into your
church, into your church or intoyour space and it they

(05:23):
infiltrate your congregation, they infiltrate your the worship
center, they infiltrate your friends and valley members, your
church family. They will destroy it from the
inside out. They will they will preach.
They will become false idols. You see what I'm saying?
They'll become false idols within the church and a lot of
times they'll start disintegrating the church or
destroying the church from the inside out.
And a lot of times the narcissist who tend to be

(05:44):
charming people get get elected to higher positions in the
church. They just go from being a guest
member of the church to lead in the church, to lead in the
congregation, to lead in it. All right, we have to do, we
have to have more and better discernment at picking out these
damn monsters and separating ourselves from it.
We got to do better. We got to have better leadership

(06:06):
in the church. Don't forgive every don't.
I know. Again, I know forgiveness and
reconciliation are two differentthings.
And a lot of people feel like, especially religious folks feel
like you have to forgive in order to move on because that's
what God says. You don't have to allow them
back into your space. Hey, Brother Lee, use myself as
an example right here. Hey, Brother Lee, God tells us
to forgive and we love. We forgive you, but get the beep

(06:30):
out of our church. Why can't more people do it like
that? God said I need to forgive you,
but get the beep out of our church right now.
You can be forgiven across the street.
Get your ass up out of here. Jesus is good.
Oh Jesus is good. Then you, then you have your
congregation. Because sooner or later,

(06:52):
narcissistic people love to infiltrate these people and they
love to use, I call it the the guise of God.
It's like they put the God mask on, they go to church and they
pretend to be a good person. Because so many people out there
just assume because you claim tobe a Christian or you go to
church that you're automaticallya good person.
So many people are so naive today.
They just think that that's thisone, one equals the other.

(07:13):
You must you go to church, so you must be a good person.
No, those two things do not haveto be mutually inclusive.
Those two things do not. Those two things can be mutually
exclusive. Going to church you can go to
church and also be a horrible person right?
You can go to church and you canbe a horrible lying, cheating
bastard believe the Bible says let he without sin cast the

(07:35):
first stone. Everybody look everybody, nobody
Jesus going to cast the first stone.
It's going to be this big ass. He's going to cast the Rock of
Gibraltar and crush us because we are all sinners.
And I know people say all sins are created equal, but woo, sin
is sin. Somebody sins.
You see, somebody sins, like they weigh a little bit more

(07:56):
than others, right? I don't know.
Somebody sins seem like me. Me taking your Q-tip seems like
it should. She'll weigh less than me taking
your life. You know what I'm saying?
Theft and death. She's not.
Hey, hey, hey. Narcissists have that mindset
where all sins are equal. You remember you lied to me.

(08:17):
You remember you told me you were coming home at 11 and you
actually came home at 11 O2 Thatwould be considered a lie.
You a Sinner? You trying to get on me for
cheating and having four kids onyou.
You're trying to get we. I know me and you don't have
kids together, but you're tryingto make me seem like a bigger
Sinner than you because I've cheated and I've destroyed the
sanctity of our marriage by having four children outside of

(08:39):
it and we don't have kids together.
How dare you? How stupid does that sound right
there. But that's how narcissist mind
work right there. They want to convince you that
this is how it should work, thisis how it should be right here.
Like the how things need to go. They want to convince you that
you are supposed to forgive themor get over it or that you are

(09:00):
equal. They use this to manipulate
y'all. They use religion to manipulate
it. This is why they love organized
religion. This is why a lot of narcissists
love getting and getting into and starting cults.
They love cults because of the power dynamic.
The bigger I get in these spaces, the more power dynamic I
feel like I have. I promise you, you mean, I

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promise you, this is what goes on right now.
So as you are growing and as youare moving forward, these are
things that you have to consider.
You have to consider the baby, the baby steps.
You have to be able to move forward.
You have to be able to keep growing.
You'd have to be able to set boundaries on your religion,
right? Because if you keep letting
these narcissistic snakes in there, they're going to start

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biting people. The little narcissist, the
little narcissistic snakes are going to start biting people.
They got sharp teeth. They got sharp, the sharpest
teeth. It was a biting people.
You want to be bit by a radioactive narcissist.
Didn't think so, right then think that you would, you know
what I mean? But this is how it goes out.
This is the flow. This is the flow I want you to

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understand. And This is why so many people
know so many narcissists love religion.
This is why so many of them are,are attracted to religion.
This is why so many of them justabsolutely thrive in these
religious environments because they always expect forgiveness.
They'll, they'll, they'll try tochastise you about it.
If you don't forgive me, you're a bad person.
You know what I'm saying? And the people fall for it works
on people because people want people want to believe that

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everybody is good, right? You want to leave, believe that
there's good in everybody. But sometimes you get to the
point where you understand that not that all people have good in
them, Some people have had it stripped out of them a long time
ago by the devil, like the devilstripped the good out of this
person. And I know, hey, I know God can
work wonders. But so now you let God work
wonders over there. Hey, God, I don't know you.

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You work these wonders and I love you, Lord, but can you work
on them over there across the street?
Can you work? Can you work on them at our
sister church down the street, across town?
Can you work on them? It could look.
Can he have a ministry in his own house or in his bathroom?
You know what I mean? Thank you, Lord, thank you so
much. We love you Lord.

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I love you, Lord. But anyway, y'all, I need to hop
off this thing. I appreciate every single one of
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Or we can do it virtually as well.
Yeah. And I'm out.
Peace.