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August 19, 2025 53 mins

This week in The Vault—our summer throwback series highlighting the most powerful episodes from the past 7 years—we revisit a bold and timely conversation with Dr. Joshua Steinke.

If you've felt the tension between cultural compromise and biblical conviction, this episode is for you. Dr. Steinke unpacks the dangers of “secondhand revelation” and invites us into a deeper, more intimate relationship with Jesus—one rooted in firsthand faith and unwavering truth.

Whether you’re a ministry leader, a Christian entrepreneur, or a believer longing for clarity in the chaos, this conversation will call you higher. It’s not about more content—it’s about deeper connection with the Word Himself.

What You’ll Learn:

  • What “secondhand revelation” is and why it’s dangerous for the Church
  • Why personal encounters with God are essential for spiritual maturity
  • The problem with outsourcing your faith to pastors, podcasts, or social media
  • How to walk out biblical discernment in a noisy, compromised culture
  • A fresh reminder that intimacy with Jesus doesn’t require a mediator


Notable Quotes:

🗣️ “The Church is living on secondhand revelation—and it’s costing us spiritual maturity.”

🗣️ “You don’t need a middleman to hear from God. He’s still speaking to you.”

🗣️ “It’s not about performance or position—it’s about presence.”

Links + Resources:

📖 Learn more about Dr. Joshua Steinke → https://worshipanyway.com/artists/dr-joshua-steinke

Connect with The Messenger Movement:

Instagram → @themessengermovement

Facebook → Messenger Movement

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