May 28, 2025 • 60 mins
What happens when we heal the wounded child within us? For Chelsea Miller, inner child coach and trauma healer, this question isn't theoretical—it's the foundation of profound personal and generational transformation.
Chelsea's story begins with a childhood marked by emotional neglect, teenage parents struggling with poverty, and the heavy responsibility of becoming a parental figure to her siblings at a young age. "I was more of a parent to them than a sibling," she shares. This early experience taught her to suppress her needs and make herself "small and least burdensome" to receive love, patterns that would follow her into adulthood.
The perfectionism she developed led to a 4.0 GPA in high school but eventually manifested as debilitating anxiety and panic attacks. When the pressure became too much, she crashed in college, an experience that carried deep shame but ultimately became the catalyst for her healing journey. Through her work as a professional nanny, Chelsea discovered something remarkable: giving children the nurturing presence and care she never received was profoundly healing for her own inner child.
This discovery evolved into her current work helping adults heal from childhood trauma by reconnecting with and "reparenting" their inner children. The process involves identifying emotions in the body, pinpointing memories where limiting beliefs formed, and imaginatively providing that child-self with the comfort and reassurance they needed but didn't receive. "We're going to rewrite those messages and help, encourage, and heal that so they can take that and bring it back into themselves," Chelsea explains.
For parents struggling with consistency or effectiveness, Chelsea offers a powerful perspective: before focusing on parenting techniques, it's essential to heal your own inner wounds. "If you're lost and confused and a mess in here, how can you expect them to feel strong and secure in who they are?" This work creates ripples that extend beyond individual healing to transform how we raise the next generation.
Ready to explore your healing journey? Connect with Chelsea on social media @ChelseaMillerCoaching or join her "Healing Haven" community for daily inspiration on reclaiming your authentic self and creating the life you deserve.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I know, you know, I, you know tangibly know how to
help raise kids, because Ireally essentially did.
Both of my siblings tell me allthe time that I was more of a
parent to them than a sibling,which is highly accurate, and so
I knew, like, the skills to beable to help raise kids, but
there was also, like thisnatural outpour of like I never
got these things.
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I want to make sure that no kidexperiences what I did.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I want them to experience the love, the nurture
, the care the showing up, thepresence, and in that it was
healing for me at the same time.
Welcome to the Mic'd Up andMotivated podcast, where we
interview passionateprofessionals who empower young
people, impact lives and createpositive change in schools,
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organizations and communities.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Everybody in here has a talent and you have a gift
and you were given that gift sothat you can go change the world
.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hi, I'm Chelsea Miller.
With Chelsea Miller Coaching,I'm an inner child coach, an
encouragement consultant,trainer and a trauma healer.
I specialize in helpingmillennial women break free from
emotional baggage of toxic,emotionally immature or
narcissistic upbringings.
Through a blend of coaching,education and some spiritual
tools, I support clients inhealing their inner child,
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setting boundaries, reconnectingwith their true selves and
creating lives that feel safe,fulfilling and aligned.
I also train and certify othercoaches in my
encouragement-based method,empowering them to bring this
work into their own communities.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Chelsea Miller, how you doing today.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm great thanks.
How are you, jason?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm doing great.
I'm doing so great.
It is so awesome to have you onthe podcast and I was telling
you before we got on and startedrecording our podcast how much
I've followed you and kind ofadmired you from afar with all
that you do, and so I'm excitedabout this interview and excited
to get to know more about whatyou do.
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So first of all, tell me howthings have been going Like.
How's life been for you so farin 2025?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
2025 is full of a lot of transitions.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's a big word.
I've been hearing that a lotfrom a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Lots of big pivots, lots of transitions, lots of
shedding and stepping into newthings, rebirthing.
So it's been a wild but very,very exciting year so far.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm looking forward tohearing more about that and,
like I said, I've been hearingthat word, that word transition,
from a lot of my friends, a lotof people in the industry, a
lot of professionals, and thatword transition.
And for you, what do you thinkthe word transition has meant
for you?
Like, has there been, liketransitions professionally, in
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your personal life?
Just what kind of?
What kind of transitions?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh, that is a loaded question.
So yes to all of that.
Yeah, I'm actually walkingthrough a divorce right now, so
that is a big transition.
I have two small children, sothat includes co parenting and
figuring things out in thisspace of how to live this new
life and shedding the old stuffand what am I stepping into.
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But that's also given me thisopportunity to really dig in
deeper to who I am to at thesame time and it's like, okay,
what have I been doing thatisn't working so far and what am
I looking forward to in thefuture?
Like, what changes would I liketo make?
What do I want this, how do Iwant this to serve me and how do
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I want to heal in this and howdo I want to open up my own like
awareness and consciousness,and level up in this space and
digging into all that hard,messy stuff, and so that
obviously translates into thework that I'm doing as well.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
so, wow, wow, thank you a lot.
Yeah, yeah, that is a lot, butI love how you were just able to
share that.
You know, just be open andvulnerable and for our listeners
, I just we.
I know we kind of dove in deepright off the bat and this but
this is how amazing of a personyou are, you know.
You just kind of took thatquestion and say and then just
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say you know what, I'm going tolay it on the line, I'm to be
transparent, I'm going throughthis, I'm going through that,
and so I really appreciate that.
I'm sure that's something thepeople you work with, which
we're going to talk about, whatyou do professionally, the
people you work with, I'm surethat's something they gravitate
towards.
Do you think there's being thatopen about things?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It is I think it's Brene Brown who says like
vulnerability breedsvulnerability.
Like I can't expect people tocome to me with their hard, dark
, messy things if I'm not alsoshowing up and doing the same
because, it creates thatcontainer of safety of like me
too it's.
I know what this is like becauseI've walked through it, and so
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if I'm not showing up and livingin that like that space of
authenticity fully and showingup as this version of myself,
and how do I expect other peopleto have the courage and bravery
to step into that too?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, wow, that is so awesome.
I'm just going to say thisright now I'm so glad that we
had a chance to connect and andand meet.
And it's like just hearing youtalk the first few minutes.
I'm like, and it's like justhearing you talk the first few
minutes, I'm like she's the realdeal.
She is legit, she's the realdeal Really, seriously.
I mean, I applaud you, so talkto me about your journey
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professionally.
How did you, did you findyourself doing what you're doing
today?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, that's another really great question, thank you
.
So actually my background is inchildcare.
I was a professional nanny for10 years.
That's where I started Fromthere.
I launched a nanny placementagency here locally where I was
helping match nannies withfamilies, and so in that space I
got certified to become aparent coach because I wanted to
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make sure that all of mynannies were trained, like on
the same level that they all had, like that I wanted to make
sure they were fully equipped todo the work that you know they
were being hired to do.
And so through that I foundthis community of people who
were learning about positivediscipline, about, like, being
kind and firm, about beingmutually respectful, about
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raising a new generation ofchildren.
And that's where I found what Ido now, which is the inner
child coaching, theencouragement, consulting, which
basically is reparenting yourown inner child in order to
match those same values, becauseso many of us, as parents or
caregivers or whoever justadults in general, are just
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constantly walking around beingtriggered by our childhoods.
And so it's like this twofoldspace of like.
We're raising a new generationof people and we want them to
have, you know, these empoweredlife skills and be able to walk
into the world and bechangemakers without all of that
heavy baggage.
But we, as adults, are, youknow, we were traumatized, we
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were raised in toxicenvironments, most of us, and
we've got all of these mistakenbeliefs and core beliefs about
ourselves and about the worldthat, just like, weigh us down.
And so, in order to create thenew generation, we also have to
heal ourselves at the same time,so that we can meet them where
they need to be.
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay In along-winded way I started in
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child care, and now I'm doing,I'm essentially doing the inner
child of the adults.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, no, no that that the long-winded answer is
great, because the more detail,the more it helps me.
And I'm just going to say rightnow, I'm kind of starstruck,
I'm listening to you talk aboutthis and I'm I'm thinking to
myself okay, this is going to bean interview, but this is also
going to kind of be a coachingsession.
You're going to walk me throughsome things, You're going to
gentle parent me through somethings to help me, Cause I'm
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going to have some questionsthat are need help with
personally.
Yeah, absolutely, we all do weall do, yeah, but I love what
you said about that and I lovewhat you do and how you came
upon this, and I want to know,like so, when you tell people
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what you do, what's the generalreaction that you get?
Like, what's the typicalreaction that you get?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So I start with the inner child coach and I get a
lot of really confused faces.
That's fair, that's totallyfair.
But then I usually saysomething along the lines of
it's kind of like therapy, but Ican't diagnose anything Because
really it's in that same spaceof being a mental health
professional and advocate.
I'm not a licensed mentalhealth professional, but it's in
the same space, and so that issomething that's more like
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tangible that they canunderstand.
And then I might sort of getmore into like the details of
like okay, well, really I'mdealing with a lot of like
rewriting our childhood beliefs.
That's.
That's really essentially whatwe're doing.
So, whether it was traumatic,little T or big T, traumas,
we've all got them and we allhave these beliefs about
ourselves or the world that arejust mistaken.
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That's all they are.
They're not wrong, they're notbad, they're just mistaken.
So being able to rewrite thoseand so being able to explain
that to people in a way theyunderstand is usually in that
like therapy, counseling space.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's so amazing.
Ok, all right, chelsea.
So let's go back.
Let's go back to your childhood.
Talk to me about that.
Talk to me about what what 10year old Chelsea was like, 12
year old Chelsea was like.
Talk to me about her.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That is a really good question, so I'm going to take
it back even a little furtherfor you.
There's so much background therethat is rich and very important
to all of this.
So I had teen parents they were19 years old, totally poverty
stricken families.
So no help, no support.
We moved around a lot a lot ofgenerational curses, a lot of
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traumatic environments, a lot ofquote unquote like abusive
tendencies that are just passeddown generationally but you know
, they weren't reallyconsciously aware of that was
traumatic or abusive.
And so, like most of us, wejust absorbed all of those
things the you're a child, soyou should be seen and not heard
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.
You're a lady, so you should bepolite and quiet and a people
pleaser, and those kinds ofthings.
And so that was really like theenvironment of growing up was.
I had 19 year old parents whodidn't really know what they're
doing.
Not that any of us as parentsknow what they're doing, but at
19, it makes it a lot harder.
And so we went through justyears of this like storm of
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messiness and so, um, thatreally laid that foundation of
like, okay, this is, this is alot of things, and it's any time
.
Anything under the age of sevenis when you're really just like
that sponge and you're soakingeverything, things, and it's.
Anything under the age of sevenis when you're really just like
that sponge and you're soakingeverything up and so I'm just
soaking up all of that traumaticenvironment and so, yes, by the
time I was 10, 12, I was stillmy inner child, was happy and
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creative and free, and I'm aSagittarius, so I am a total
free spirit.
I love freedom and learning andknowledge and love and passion,
and all of the things.
I want my hands in everything.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, but there was also that sense of like I have
to be a good student, I have tobe quiet, I have to be seen and
not heard.
I have to.
There was a lot of likeemotional neglect growing up for
me.
It was not a lot of physical,there was a lot of like
emotional neglect growing up forme.
It was not a lot of physical,it was a lot of like you're just
going to go in your room andyou're going to stay there and
be quiet because your existenceis a burden to the family, and
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so it's like this okay, I'm justgoing to keep to myself, I'll
just entertain myself, I'll makemy needs very small, and that
is how I will show them that I'mworthy of their love.
And so that's how a lot of usoperate is, I will be quiet and
small and as least burdensome asI can be in order to survive
and get love and acceptance.
And so I was creative and funand sweet, but I was also
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suppressing all of my muchnessand trying to make it as small
as I possibly could.
So 10, 12 year old Chelsea hadexperienced a lot of things
already at that point.
Um, I had a family member whohad um an alive to herself, and
we took on her three children,and so we suddenly went from a
family of two children to fivechildren and they had a lot of
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um, of concerns and a lot oflike.
They brought a lot into ourfamily and they had a lot of
things that needed to be dealtwith in an environment where
they had lost both parents, andso we had experienced that as a
family.
And then my parents split upafter that and then my parents
got remarried after that andthere was a lot of like just big
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breaks and a lot of big traumas.
On top of all of like, the mebeing the oldest child by six
years and having to feel likeI'm responsible for everything
and it's my job to keep thepeace and it's my job to show up
and be the best that Iabsolutely can be so that they
can show me off.
Look at what a good job we'redoing as parents.
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Because she is doing such agreat job, and so 10,
12-year-old Chelsea had a lot,but she was also very beautiful
and very vibrant and I loveconnecting with her because
she's so much fun and when.
I'm really needing to connect tomy joy centers.
That's where I go to is thespace of creativity and the fun
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and the liveliness yeah, wow,that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Thank you for sharing that.
Just so many layers that youyou uncovered, I mean, and I
mean that's that's why I loveyou know, hearing about what you
do right, and so many of us asadults, we don't get to unpack
all of those things, we justcarry around the baggage.
And you being able to do thatand reframe it is awesome and
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I'm sure it's a big part of yourjourney.
Now, you said you were theoldest.
The oldest of how many?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
That's very messy.
So technically, the oldest offour.
At one point.
We had my three cousins as well.
So if you count that there'sthree more.
So it's sort of like I've I'mone of four, but also one of
seven.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, no, no, that's okay, but I'm the oldest.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I'm the big blended mixed family and I'm the oldest
regardless.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, that's the most important factor there.
So, as a child going throughand let me preface this by
saying I work with a lot ofyouth as well and I see so much
of this taking place withintheir lives when they're going
through the messiness of theirfamily stuff but as a child, as
you were going through differentthings and going through the
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ebbs and flows of just childhood, was there ever a point where
you were like I don't know, isthis how life is supposed to
look, especially when you lookat it through the lens of how
other kids are living?
Did you ever ask yourself thatquestion, like, is this really
how life is supposed to be?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That is another great question.
I'm going to be honest Likemost people, I didn't start
asking those questions until Iwas an adult.
I was in my twenties where Istarted to look around and I'm
like wait a minute.
I started comparing my life andmy experiences to others and my
relationships with my familymembers individually and I'm
like, oh, wait a minute, thiswasn't normal, even though I was
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like built to believe that itwas yeah it really actually
wasn't, and I was in my early20s before I started to sort of
like safely unpack those thingsand realize that this was not
normal.
So, in addition to all of that,my mother also has some really
deeply rooted I'm not going tothrow out a diagnosis, because
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that not fair, but we'll justsay emotional immaturity for the
sake of public purposes.
But she has a lot of deep issuesand so I haven't spoken to her
in over 11 years and it was thislike I was not allowed to be my
own person.
I was like trained and raisedto be this like extension of her
, and so I did not even think Iwas allowed to ask those kinds
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of questions to myself growingup until I was an adult and I
was like, oh wait, I'm aseparate person from her, I'm
allowed to, I'm allowed to be myown person, but I'm allowed to
ask these kinds of questions.
And so, yeah, I didn't thinkthat I was allowed to ask these
kinds of questions.
And so, yeah, I didn't thinkthat I was allowed to ask those
kinds of questions.
And I was so connected andenmeshed and codependent with
her growing up that I just Icouldn't even see past what we
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had, in order to even think, thepossibility of asking myself a
question like that.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
No, yeah, I can relate to that so much.
And then so many of the youngpeople I work with can relate to
that, I'm sure.
If, like they could hear whatyou just said, it was snapping
their fingers, clapping like, ohyeah, girl, you tell it.
That's so real and so manypeople go through that.
And, like you said, we don'task those questions until we get
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to an adult age and we lookback and reflect and it's like,
okay, yeah, that was not, thatwasn't normal, but we normalized
it Right.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Um, and it's how we survived, like if we start to
question at a young age, whenwe're 12 or 14, is this normal?
If I would have started todeconstruct those things at 14,
in a space where I couldn't haveescaped a family life that was
sort of toxic, but notnecessarily abusive, I wouldn't
have survived the way that I didas an adult, because you can't
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get away.
You don't know how to setboundaries at 14 or 10, or
however old it is, and so it'ssafer for survival purposes and
those spaces to sort of justtake it sometimes.
And that's why we, why we don'task those questions, because if
we did, things would unravel,and then what would we do?
We're children, we can't escapeour situations yeah, no, yeah,
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I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I want to.
I want to touch on that reallyquickly, but I have a question.
Yeah, that I you kind of youkind of referenced it, you
alluded to it, uh.
But so what was it that helpedyou survive?
Did you have people who?
Did you play sports?
Were you involved inextracurricular activities?
What was it that helped youmake it through the messiness of
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what you went through as a kid?
I did musicals and show choirand all those and that was my
escape.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That was like the place that I could go to and
actually be my own personoutside of my family or whatever
was going on.
I had a safe, supportivecommunity in that and it was an
outlet too.
And then, if you get even deeperinto it, music is soothing for
your nervous systems and it'sreleasing and there's all kinds
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of beautiful benefits andholistic healing benefits to
music and singing and all anddancing and movement, and so I
can see now why that was sohelpful for me, but also the
community that I was able tobuild in those spaces.
But um, for me it was music.
That was my escape of how I wasable to survive and let out all
of the things without evenrealizing that I was doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah.
So were you a vocalist?
Did you play instruments Likewhat was your lane musically?
I was a singer oh wow Okay, Idid choir and theater and I did
some competitions with, likebarbershop quartets and those
kinds of things, but it was, itwas vocals nice, I'm gonna have
to ask no, I'm not gonna put youif you, if you're feeling in
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your bones throughout thispodcast, you want to just sing
something like and a little sidenote, this is, this is how
nerdy I am, like the other daythere we go, there, we.
I love nerds.
I tell the young people yeah,I'm nerdy, but I make it look
cool.
I do it with all of them.
Right, I'm swag with mynerdiness.
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I love that.
Yeah so that's how I reframe it.
It's all about the reframing,right?
So I was working the other dayand I listened to my playlist
and whatnot and I getsidetracked a lot.
So I stopped working.
And I was working the other dayand I listened to my playlist
and whatnot and I getsidetracked a lot.
So I stopped working and I waslike and I was singing to a
particular song.
I'm like I want to know how tosing.
You know I sing all the time,but I know I can't sing.
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People have told me I can'tsing and so I just started
Googling, like, can people learnhow to sing or is it a natural?
Like, is it a natural?
Like is it a natural gift?
And like, for the next hour,I'm just googling, like how to
sing and like trying to self,like, self-teach myself.
You know the, the singing, andit was like it was just a I went
down a weird rabbit trail butlike that's just the nerdiness
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in me and I'm like, okay, I'mnever to be a singer, why am I
doing this?
So like, does someone whoactually can sing like what is
it like being able to have thatgift, that talent?
Because, like, really, I wish Icould do that.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And you could.
That's the thing.
It's just like any other talentor skill you know it's like
okay, I don't know how to playbasketball, but if I really put
in the time and effort andenergy, like.
I could do it and I could learnit as a skill.
And sure, some people are morenaturally like gifted in one
area or another, but you canalways put in the effort to
learn how to do something, andit's no different with singing.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh wow, see, now you just kind of lit the fire back
up.
Now, after I finished thispodcast, I'm going to go back to
researching how I was hopingyou didn't do that.
I was hoping you would kind ofkill that dream right now, like
no, jason you're not a singer.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'm not a dream killer, jason, that's not.
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You're not.
That would go againsteverything that you stand for.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
And I say if you want to sing, you go for it, whether
you're good at it or not, Ifyou find joy in it, that is what
matters.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
There you go.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
A four-year-old out there with no pitch or tune or
anything can go out there andstill do it and love it and kill
it.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, Now see, I'm going to hit you up Now you're
going to become my vocal coach.
You're going to teach me.
Forget the Googling stuff.
If I got somebody in real lifethat can help me, that's the
person right there.
But I appreciate that.
I appreciate that and just thepositivity.
So I want to go here, so we'retalking a little bit about your
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journey and I want to go to thispoint because this is my
favorite demographic to workwith, and I want to go to this
point because this is myfavorite demographic to work
with teenagers and young adults.
So, going through the childhoodand all the things that you had
to deal with family-wise, nowyou're getting to the young
adult years and tell me a littlebit about the high school,
college, and how you start totake shape and your life starts
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to take shape.
Take us back to that time.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Take shape and your life starts to take shape.
Take us back to that time.
So, high school, I was the 4.0student because I was trying to
perform and be a trophy and domy absolute best so that people
could show me off, basically,and so I killed myself to get
those grades.
I mean, most of it camenaturally through intelligence,
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but it also was a lot of effortand energy in order to do that,
and so I was exhausted all thetime.
And I think it was my senioryear where I started just like
having these episodes.
Where I was I didn't realize itat the time, but it was panic I
was having such deep panicattacks that I was passing out
like in the middle of thehallways.
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I was like like just falling inthe hallways and crying and not
being able to like come up withassignments, but I still was
like putting so much, so muchpressure on myself to perform
and be the absolute best that Icould be, and it was.
It was essentially killing mefrom the inside out and my body
was starting to talk to me andtell me hey, something is not
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right here.
And everyone just sort ofbrushed it aside.
And you know we looked into itmedically and all that.
But it was like nobody told methat it was anxiety, nobody told
me that it was undiagnosed ADHD, no one told me it was CPTSD,
nobody told me that I wascrushing myself and just trying
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to be the best that I could.
And also I wasn't allowed totalk about those things either.
There were no safe spaces atthe time for me to say, hey,
this is actually really hard forme, this doesn't come as easy
for me as I make it look, I'mstruggling.
I was expected to excel at itand be good at it easily, and so
there was nowhere for me toshare those things, and it
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wasn't as common then either asit might be now.
I know that teens now strugglewith a lot as well, and so it's
like there just weren't safespaces, it wasn't as open to
share about your feelings, andit was like this is just the
expectation.
And so by the time I graduatedhigh school and jumped into
college, I had completelycrashed.
(25:21):
I was, I went from this 4.0completely like put together
high school student who had somuch potential and so much
expectation put on me and alsothe fact that you know I was the
oldest, I was, you know thishighly intelligent person.
So my family put a lot ofexpectation in me to be the
first to graduate college, to bethe first to like pull us out
(25:44):
of this poverty space, and sothere was a lot of pressure.
And so I got to college, didn'tknow what the heck I was doing,
all of a sudden had to worryabout not only grades, but now I
have to learn how to like liveon my own and have a job and pay
for things, and it crushed me,and so I failed out of my first
year of college and did notreally go back.
I kind of like dabbled here andthere, and that crushed me.
(26:07):
I carried so much shame overthat for such a long time
because I thought there wassomething inherently wrong with
me.
Why, like how could I havepossibly fumbled that so badly
when I was smart enough andshould have been able to just do
it?
And now I've obviously workedthrough that and processed it
and realized, like, what wasactually happening and how big
that was.
But at the time, like my early,that early like college age,
(26:31):
that was a really, reallydifficult time for me.
And then that was also thepoint where I started to like
piece things together with likemy parents and like my childhood
of like, oh wait, maybe thiswas not okay and things just
started to completely unraveland I'm glad they did, because
that's where you find like thereally good stuff but at the
time it was like my whole worldfell apart yeah, yeah, and this
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was in college where, or that,that age where it's like the,
the crash out started to happen,right, yeah, and so how did you
?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
again?
Because I know so many people,I know so many young people,
especially especially collegeage right now, and even friends
that I've had that I have withthat point was like, okay, when
they experienced that theydidn't rebound, they didn't come
back from it.
It was like it was just adownward spiral from there.
So how did you come back fromthat?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So I caught myself in my nannying career.
So I caught myself in mynannying career so because I
wasn't in college and I was justlike.
I don't know what I'm going todo with my life now, because
this is all that I've everworked for my entire life was
this.
And now I don't have that.
And so what do I do?
And so nannying is what caughtme.
I started working with kids andfalling in love with life again
(27:49):
and enjoying like being in theirspace and having fun doing
childhood things that I didn'treally get to do because of the
environments that I grew up in,and so I got to be a kid again,
growing up and helping raiseother generations.
And that is really what savedme and caught me from totally
like not rebounding.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Wow, and so how long did you do nannying?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I did that for 10 years.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Okay, Okay, so talk a little bit about how.
What was it about?
I know you alluded to it again,but what was it specifically
about nannying and finding yourniche net that you felt you feel
like it kind of freed you to toand opened your you up to
another, another area of yourlife?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
so very often um people like me and others who
grow up in like these traumaticchildhoods and experiences.
We find ourselves giving otherpeople the things that we never
got yeah, and so for me it wasnurturing, it was attention, it
presence, and so for me I foundmyself just this outpouring of
love and nurture and care forother human beings which really
(28:57):
I always had growing up.
If I look back, I mean I wasthe oldest sibling.
I know, you know I, you knowtangibly know how to help raise
kids, because I reallyessentially did Both of my
siblings tell me all the timethat I was more of a parent to
them than a sibling, which ishighly accurate, and so I knew,
like, the skills to be able tohelp raise kids.
But there was also, like, thisnatural outpour of like I never
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got these things.
I want to make sure that no kidexperiences what I did.
I want them to experience thelove, the nurture, the care, the
showing up, the presence, andin that it was healing for me at
the same time to be,able to give that and see it and
see them receive it and seelike all those good beautiful
things that maybe I didn't get.
But like having an acceptanceabout that of like, okay, I
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didn't get this and that washard, that sucks, but I accept
that I didn't get that and I cansee that I'm so capable of
giving it to others and what abeautiful like gift it is for
them to receive it at the sametime.
And so you know it was fundoing like the zoo trips and the
parks and you know let's dothis fun craft and those things
(30:04):
were healing for my inner childtoo.
But really it was more aboutlike that nurturing, loving
presence and that connection andrelationship that you get to
build with them.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And it takes the pressure off not being the
parent.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Now I'm a parent of two so it's like totally
different.
Yeah right, I wish I could goback to being an auntie.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yes, right, but it's like being able to give that in
a space without all the pressureof being a parent.
It was like I got to be yourmentor and your friend and your
guide and also, like you know, aparental figure of sorts.
But like, really we're here forthe fun, I was there for the
fun and that it like that wasjust so, so important to be able
to be there for that space.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So you are listening to the Mic'd Up and Motivated
podcast presented by Inspire toReach Higher to reach higher.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
All right, welcome back to the Mic'd Up and
Motivated podcast.
I'm your host, jason A Dixon,and I've been talking to the
amazing Chelsea Miller and shehas been just telling us about
this amazing journey she's beenon.
And Chelsea, again, we weretalking off air.
I got to share this.
Okay, I was talking about howwe have never met Like and we're
(31:17):
both from the same city, fromToledo and like how we've never
met but like being able to like,connect with you and talk to
you on this podcast, like I feellike I've known you forever.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Right, I've known you forever, yeah it feels like
friends, absolutely I know.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
So just hearing your story and hearing about how, all
the things that you overcameand how you got to this point
and we left off talking aboutyour nannying career and how
that shift for you helped you.
So talk about when you feltlike it was time to move on from
nannying and what thattransition was like.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, that's another great question.
So the end of my nannyingcareer was not necessarily a
choice.
It came with COVID.
That was my last year.
So in 2016, I launched a nannyplacement agency because I was
like, okay, I love nannying, butI also was in that space where
(32:17):
like, okay, I failed college,that didn't work out.
I failed college again.
That didn't work out.
So what?
Like I know that I'm meant formore, I know that I have all
this potential, but I don't knowwhat to do with it.
And so I'm like, okay, we'll dowhat you know.
Then what I know is nannying.
What I know is coming intopeople's homes and being this
professional helping raise thisnew generation of kids and being
(32:39):
helpful to parents who areworking and trying to put food
on the table.
And you know, impactcommunities through their work
and still be parents at the sametime.
That this is what I know how todo.
And so that's when I was likepulling ideas, and so I came up
(32:59):
with the Nanny Placement Agency,and so I was like this feels
like a really good place for meto be of, like I'm offering
something to the community andmaking a difference.
I'm giving people things thatthey need and still making a
really big impact, because thenannies that I place in people's
homes are helping raise newgenerations.
And so for me, it was vastlyimportant for me to be able to
make sure that they wereimparting the really important
(33:19):
things that I would also want tobe giving in my own nanny
families.
I want to be able to essentiallylike duplicate myself in these
homes and make sure that thesefamilies are getting this full
quality experience and thesekids are getting this love,
nurturing connection and, youknow, discipline, not punishment
, but this discipline and thisbeing raised in a certain
(33:42):
specific way where, like theirthoughts and their feelings and
all of their, all of the thingsare valuable, all of the things
are valuable.
And like I just felt like thisgeneration of kids needed this,
and so how can I give that inmore spaces?
And so to me that was like abig piece of why I started that
agency.
It was I want to make adifference here and I want to
(34:04):
impart all of these values andskills, and so the best way to
do that is, to make sure thatthey're all certified in the
same thing that I am.
Which was that positivediscipline?
So that is that was yeah.
So, yeah, that's, that waswhere I went from.
There was the nanny to theagency to like, okay, well, how
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can I do this for more families?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, okay, I read this, this ripple effect of what
I'm doing yeah, yeah, and I so,as you're telling me this, your
journey and this and how youhad to pivot, and I just get
this picture of like somebodywho's like being knocked down,
but like it was just thisresilience, like you just keep
(34:48):
getting back up and when peoplethink that you're done, they
count you out.
It's like, oh, tell us you'recoming back, like she's not
stopping, she's going to keepgoing, like just the grit and
the grind that's still withinyou.
I love that.
I love that.
So talk to me about how it'sbeen going.
You know how it's been going.
(35:10):
Has there been any challengesfor you?
What?
what has been like the toughestpart of of of that Um, of having
grit, or where I'm at now, whenyou're at now.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, okay, yes.
So COVID was a hard hit, sothat knocked out the agency, um,
and that ended my nanny career.
I also became a mom of two, soI had two kids and trying to do
all the things, it just wasn'tworking.
And so that's where I foundwhere I do now this inner child
coaching, and that hit me sohard, where I was like I want to
spend my life doing this, Iwant to help heal other people.
(35:44):
And I had gone back and dealtwith all of those things that
we've talked about and came outthe other side of this a
completely different person, andI was like how can I not reach
back and help everybody?
else because this was sopowerful and so impactful and it
also creates that ripple effectthat I'm looking for, and so
(36:05):
the pivots that I experience andthe resilience that I have each
time is what always ends upgetting me to that place where I
know that I'm supposed to be,and each time gets me to like
that new level.
So, yeah, I've seen a lot oflike these knockdown moments,
but each time I know that it'sreally just sort of redirecting
me and helping me get to adifferent space that I may not
(36:26):
have come to on my own yeah,yeah, that's so amazing to be
able to kind of see it from thatperspective.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
So let's talk a little bit about now, what
you're doing now and the workthat you do with parents.
Let's start there.
I can attest to this also.
I work with teens and youngadults, but I tell people I'm
also working with parents.
I'm also working with coachesand teachers the people that are
(36:55):
connected to those young people.
So what are the biggest thingsthat you see right now that
parents are struggling with whenit comes to their young people,
their kids?
If you could pinpoint or boilit down to a few things.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Oh so the struggles, especially parents, of like the
teens and stuff.
I mean there's the obviousthings like the technology and
just like the the like worldenvironment that we have right
now.
That's an obvious one.
But I think some of the biggerthings that parents are really
struggling with that I hear themost often is this like
dichotomy of like still holdingon to like the traditional
(37:34):
parenting values but alsowanting to like give better than
what they got, and so there'slike war going on, and it
usually also is not just withinthemselves but also within each
parent.
So like one parent might bemore traditional and one parent
might like have seen some gentleparenting things and wants to,
you know, implement them andthey're just butting heads and
that's creating so much chaosand confusion in the kids
(37:56):
because there's no consistency,and so one might be
disrespectful and one parent isgoing to come down hard and the
other one is going to like comein and undermine.
Now, I think, is the biggestthing.
They're just so lost andconfused on what the right way
is and, honestly, there is noright way, like there is no
(38:25):
parenting expert.
You are the expert of your ownkids and, yeah, we can give you
like tools and skills andinformation, but you know what's
best.
Like you're the parent, you'rethe expert.
Nobody can come in and say thisis the one size fits all, right
way to parent.
And so because of that, I thinkparents are just generally
feeling kind of lost.
And do we stick to the oldstuff?
Are we supposed to be goinginto the new stuff?
Well, the new stuff doesn'twork and we're not getting the
(38:47):
results that we're looking forand it's just messy in general.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, yeah, no, I love what you said and I can
relate to that and I, you know,when I talk to parents, I use
this illustration with us.
I ask them, like okay, how manyof you are still dressing your
kids or in the same things theywere wearing when they were two
(39:12):
or three years old, like?
And nobody raises their hand,obviously, and I'm like, okay,
your kids have grown, they'veevolved, right, and that's the
same thing that you have to doas a parent.
I see a lot of parents and Iwould love to hear this from
your perspective but I see a lotof parents who don't evolve and
grow with their kids.
It's like their kids are 16, 17, and they're still trying to
(39:33):
parent them like they're eightor nine years old.
It's like, yeah, they outgrewthose clothes and they outgrew
that type of parenting style.
So you have to grow and evolvewith them, and I feel like
that's a little bit of whatyou're kind of alluding to, but
I want you to speak to that inyour own words as well.
Do you see that?
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, absolutely, and to be honest.
I think, like all those skillsand all of the different
parenting styles are important,but I think what's more
important is healing your ownself and healing your own inner
child, because you can'tapproach them and help them and
guide them and, you know,discipline them, which really is
just nurturing and helping themnavigate life.
(40:13):
You can't do that if you don'tknow what you're doing yourself
Like, if you're lost andconfused and a mess in here, how
can you expect them to feelstrong and secure in who they
are, to be able to make good,positive decisions or be able to
make good choices forthemselves if we're a hot mess
going on in here?
And yes, we can, we show up andwe do the best we can.
But this is the most importantthing you can do for your kids
(40:34):
is showing up as a strong,secure model in life for them,
so that they can see it.
Yeah, that's the most importantthing we can do for them.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
You're right.
You're right, that's so good,that's so good.
So what is it like when you'reworking with a parent?
You're talking to a parent andthey have like this epiphany,
like, and you're encouragingthem to heal that inner child
and it's thinking back todifferent things that they went
through as a child, connectingthe dots right.
(41:03):
What is that moment like, wherethey're taking it back, where
you're taking them back?
Is it like I can imagine?
It's like a variation ofemotions, but it's kind of
taking me in that world.
What is it like when they'reexperiencing that?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
It's almost always anger and grief first.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
It's like this.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Oh, that wasn't the right way for me to have been
raised in that moment and it'sthat moment of like.
Oh, I wasn't treated as well asI thought I was.
And oh, that wasn't best and Ithought it was.
And that's what I've beenimparting on my children and, oh
my gosh, I've been, you know,just passing on this
generational trauma and not evenrealizing it.
(41:46):
And so almost always, when itcomes to the parents who are
going back in those ways, it'slike this grief and some anger
towards, you know, their parent,even though it's really that's
just misdirected.
They're just angry and hurtthat it happened in general, um,
but it's.
It's usually that grief.
It's like that, like, oh, thatwasn't okay and I thought it was
(42:08):
.
So that's that's almost always,like the, the immediate
reaction to realizing thatthat's why they're behaving the
way they are in their parentingis because that's how they were
raised and how it made them feeland those kinds of things.
So yeah, it's almost alwaysgrief that I see the most often.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, yeah, and that's so good, and so I'm not a
parent, but I'm thinking aboutwhat you just said and I can
imagine that, because one of thethings I said and I love my
parents, they're still married.
I know they drive each othercrazy, you know.
But one of the things that Isaid growing up when I got to
the point at like my twenties,thirties I'm 43 now but one of
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the things that I always said isthat I don't want to be like my
dad and I love him.
I love my dad.
He's been there for me, doneeverything for my brother and I,
but I always said I don't wantto be like him, I want to be a
better father than him.
And so when I hear what you'resaying, I can understand that
(43:10):
grief and that anger, becausethere were things that happened
during my childhood that I waslike, that made me disassociate
and disconnect from my dadespecially.
But as I'm hearing you say that, I'm like I'm thinking to
myself okay, after we deal withthat, what's the next step After
the grief and the anger?
(43:31):
What's the next step thatparents, that you kind of guide
parents to?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
that parents, that you kind of guide parents to
yeah, so after we're able toidentify, like somatically I
mean we go really deep into whatemotion this is.
Where do you feel it in yourbody, what does it look like
Like we get really deep intowhat that is so then we're able
to like pinpoint the memory ofexactly when that happened and
from there we're able to connectwith that version of them where
that happened.
So let's say you were sevenyears old.
We're going to imagine thatseven-year-old Jason that's
(44:01):
sitting right next to you andwe're going to give him that
reparenting and rewrite thosemessages and talk to him as if
he's right there and rewritethose things and help, encourage
and heal that so that he cantake that and bring it back into
himself and move on in regularlife with this new reparenting
(44:21):
and this new like rewirednervous system and brain
circuits, so that we don't haveto keep walking around with
whatever that mistaken beliefwas at seven.
Yeah, you get to walk in withthis new, healed, you know,
revised version and walk intothe world as if that actually
happened.
So it's a lot of encouraging,it's a lot of rewriting, it's a
(44:43):
lot of okay.
How would I handle this now asan adult if this was my child
and most of it is like I wouldjust hug them, I hear that.
So I would just tell them howmuch I love them.
Like I would just want to sitwith them and show them how,
like, what, how precious theyare, like that is so much of
like what we didn't get growingup is just acknowledged, loved,
(45:07):
cared for in ways that I'm sureour parents were doing for us,
but in ways that we didn't seeor understand at the time,
especially in those hard moments, and so in those hard moments,
that's what we needed the most.
So we're going to give it tothem.
Yeah, we're going to give it tothem in those moments where they
needed it, and then we're goingto take it with us.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeah Well, chelsea, you are the real deal.
I'm serious like that.
This is the interview.
But I'm like, okay, tell memore.
I'm taking mental notes and sowhat I'm hearing?
No-transcript explain it topeople.
(46:25):
So when you're working withother parents and adults and
that light bulb goes off andthey get that epiphany and they
realize that, okay, this is theway I am right now, like what do
you tell them next?
Like what is?
What do you tell them to dofrom that point on?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, so in a session , after we've gone through like
the encouragement and thehealing and we've come to like a
good place and we do a littleprocessing, I help them
understand what their newawareness is.
I help them understand whatthey're accepting about
themselves.
Because here's this thing aboutlike there's like this light
and this darkness, and thelightness is what we want to
show the world, and we just hideall the dark.
(47:08):
It's shameful, it's bad, it'sdirty.
We don't want anybody to seeour bad, dark, messy stuff,
right, and so instead, whatwe're doing is I'm helping them
go through it and pick at itpiece by piece and bring it into
the light and say it's okay,it's okay that you feel jealous,
it's okay that you responded inthat way to survive, it's okay
(47:28):
that you people pleased in orderto stay safe, it just is.
And so, helping them see fromwhatever that memory or whatever
that moment was, what can westart to accept about ourselves
instead of judge or shameourselves for.
And then, what do we want to dowith that?
What's a small action step thatwe want to take, moving forward
, this minuscule baby step thatsays now I have all this
(47:51):
information and this healing.
What do I want to do with it?
What's my small thing that Ican take into the world now,
feeling what do I want to dowith it?
What's my small thing that Ican take into the world now, um,
and so they like leave everysession with like okay, I have
like a plan to yeah, yeah,that's awesome, that is so
awesome.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
we need more Chelsea Millers in the world.
I'm telling you and I know theparents and the people you work
with have to be so grateful forjust being like your breath of
fresh air and like yourperspective and you come from
and you're real like you'velived these things Right.
So talk a little bit about thewhen you work with young people
(48:30):
and the difference, thedifferences between working with
the parents and thentransitioning to work with the
young people, the kids, theteenagers, the young adults.
Talk a little bit about thatexperience.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Absolutely so.
I do see teens and kidsoccasionally, so for them it's
less reparenting.
There's a little bit of itthere, especially with the teens
, but for them it's more likeokay, how can I show them what
their self-worth is?
How can I get them to like, befully in their bodies?
How can I get them tounderstand how to identify their
emotions?
How do I get them to know, like, who are safe people to share
(49:06):
things with and who are not?
Like, how can I prevent all ofthese mistaken beliefs that we
all, you know, have experienced?
How can I prevent that for themand what tools and skills can I
give them so that they have asafe place to share hard things?
They know how to identify theirfeelings.
They know how to set boundaries.
They know, you know, aboutconsent, about their bodies,
like there's so many things thatwe want them to know.
(49:29):
And then there are some thingswe can help them reprocess
absolutely, and they're able todo that.
But for them, the kids and theyounger teens, it's more about
what skills can I give them.
How can I offer them these safethings and these tools that
they may or may not have accessto ordinarily?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Right, yeah, yeah, I love that.
So let me ask you this question.
I'm nerding out here, so haveyou ever heard of the word
ephebophobia?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Ephebophobia, it's the fear of teenagers, the fear
of young people.
So I give talks and I talk toteens about it, young adults and
I talk to parents about it.
They're surprised when theyhear about it.
But when I talk to parentsabout the word epiphophobia and
I tell them, like okay, imagineyou're walking down the street
(50:23):
and you see a group of teenagers, right, the typical response is
like okay, to like maybe crossthe street or like pull back a
little bit.
You have this inherent fear andworry about young people and I
feel like it also creates thisdivide and disconnect.
Like the older generations,like these young people, they
don't oh, they care about thetechnology and all this stuff
(50:45):
and like that, these youngwhippersnappers, yeah, yeah.
It's like back in my day.
Back in my day, right, so talka little bit about that.
I know I introduced a word toyou, but do you see that also
like the inherent fear thatadults and even parents have of
like their own kids, this agegroup, and where do you think
(51:07):
that stems from?
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Oh, that's a really good question.
I think it stems from so we'vetalked a little bit about like
inner children, but there's alsoinner teens and inner teens Our
own inner teenagers, are filledwith so much anger and angst
and rage, and I think that'swhat turns people off, is they
do not remember, they'vesuppressed all of those feelings
(51:29):
so deeply and they are afraidof being mirrored by teenagers.
Teenagers represent somethingfor them that they have hidden
so deeply and I think that'smore what they're afraid of.
And sure, I'm sure there'sthings that they're afraid of
too, where they're like you know, the world's going to hell in a
handbasket, those kinds ofthings, and it's all their fault
because it's always the nextgeneration's fault, um, but I
(51:53):
think it's also more this senseof like they trigger and mirror
this version of themselves thathas so much repressed emotion
and experience that they justhave not allowed themselves to
access or even remotely likeentertain, and so I think that's
really like.
(52:13):
The root of that is like wow, Iwas so angry at that age and
nobody heard me and nobodylistened to me and I had no
control over myself and all ofthese like really hard.
You know, I wanted to be olderthan I was and I was capable and
I was strong and people held meback and whatever it was that
they were experiencing in thattime, I think it's just so
suppressed and they just.
It just triggers it.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Yeah, yeah, well, and that was a great way of like.
I know I put you on the spot,but like you were ready, it's
like that was amazing how youjust broke that down.
Like I've been saying you arethe real deal, like.
So I like I look at you andI've gotten to hear your story
that you know listeners havegotten to hear your story.
I'm sitting back and I'mlooking at like yeah, yeah, I
(52:59):
know her, like I'm gonna go outin public and I was like I know
chelsea miller.
You did like this.
This woman is like amazing,there has to like.
So when you look at like it'sall that you've been through and
um, where you are now, like whoare some people who played a
role in helping you get to thispoint?
Who are some people who playeda role in helping you get to
this point?
Who are some people who like orjust like, who smile with pride
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when they look at what you'redoing right now.
It's like I'm, I'm amazed, I'mexcited, like who are those
people who've been instrumentalin your journey?
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Oh, that was a great question.
Two people immediately come tomind.
One is my own therapist.
Her name is Christy.
She's amazing.
I've been seeing her for almostnine years now and she, let's
see, I was 26.
And I was having suicidalideations and just feeling like
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all the shame and guilt of youknow all of that early 20s in
addition to all of you know allof that early twenties in
addition to all of you know mychildhood stuff.
And so I came to her and shereally made this huge,
significant difference in me andshe poured into me and then has
also seen me be able to pourinto others and so I that is a
great relationship that I haveand I look up to her so much.
(54:15):
And she was this pivotal momentfor me of like life doesn't
have to be like this, it doesn'thave to be this hard, like you
can love yourself and you canencourage yourself.
And so she was huge for me.
And then my mentor in the spacethat I am now with my
encouragement, consulting Deb.
She's incredible.
(54:36):
She's older than I am but she'sbeen doing this for many years.
She is a licensed therapist butshe's in this same inner child
space with Illyrian psychology.
That's more brainy stuff forwhat I do, um, but she is this
um, warm, kind, spiritual, like,just encourage, like she just
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is encouragement, and she hasshown me how to take all of this
, all of these skills andcharacters and qualities that I
have and have learned, all theseexperiences, and turn them into
how to help others, like likethe logistics of it.
And so I just admire her somuch and all the work she's able
to do and the people she's ableto help and I've learned how to
(55:18):
, you know, expand and grow andbe more authentic in who I am
and what I'm doing because ofher.
And so those absolutely top ofmind were the top two that came
to me.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
Yeah, that's awesome, and we all need people like
that.
You know, and just listening tothe impact that they've had on
your life and your journey, Iknow they're super proud of you.
So, as we wrap up, I have acouple more questions for you,
and so the next one is I want toknow what is next for Chelsea
(55:52):
Miller, what's next for you inthis chapter of your life and
what are you looking forward to?
Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yes, so in this transition, in this space that
I've been in, I am learning moreof, I've been diving more into
like all of these holisticpractices.
So last year I spent timedigging into I got certified to
be through trauma, so liketrauma was a big thing of
something that I worked through.
But now I'm digging more intolike um the somatics and the
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nervous systems and somespirituality stuff and digging
into intuition and energy workand um just more of like this
spiritual, holistic um space andlike how can I incorporate that
into what I'm doing as well, sothat that is sort of like the
direction that I'm heading into.
Next is incorporating my ownspiritual gifts and intuitions
(56:46):
and clairs into what I'm doing.
So I'm really, really lookingforward to yeah.
I haven't quite pieced ittogether, but that's.
I'm excited for how it's goingto unfold.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yeah, and just going based on you have a track record
of finding a way to make itwork.
If there's nothing else.
If I'm watching a movie ofChelsea Miller, I can see in the
movie it looks like she's goingto be defeated by the enemy
right now.
No, she's going to come backswinging.
She's going to find a way tomake it work.
(57:21):
Well, I can see that.
Definitely.
I know you're going to be supersuccessful.
So people who want to connectwith you, who want to work with
you, who want to find out moreabout how they can work with
Chelsea Miller, like, how canthey connect with you?
How?
Like?
How can they connect with you?
How can they get in touch withyou?
Speaker 1 (57:39):
That's awesome.
So I'm on all socials TikTok,Instagram, Facebook under
Chelsea Miller Coaching, so youcan reach me there.
The same is for my email,Chelsea Miller Coaching at Gmail
.
You can find me on my personalpage too.
Lots of people do.
I've got a free like group pagethat I put stuff in like every
single day of like you know,just funny things or
(58:03):
inspirational things, so you canfind me there.
That's called the Healing Haven.
So yeah, but you're welcome toreach out to me on my personal
page as well.
People do all the time.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
Okay, awesome, all right.
So final question All right, Iwant you to imagine there is a
young girl out there who isgoing through the things that
you went through as a child andshe happens to stumble upon this
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podcast and hear you talk andshe's identifying with things
that you've said, especiallythings that you went through as
a child.
What do you want to say to her?
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Oh, so many things.
I want to tell you to keepgoing.
I want to tell you that you areway stronger than you think you
are and I know that this ishard, but you're doing it and
you're doing such a better jobat this than you think you are,
and that you are literal magic.
You are magic and everythingyou do and everything you touch
(59:06):
just lights up and is better inthis world because you're here
and you exist in it.
So keep going and find peoplethat you can trust to share the
hard things with, and it's okayto struggle and make mistakes,
but just show up and be who youare and just shine your light,
because that is the best thingthat you can do in this world is
just show up and shine yourlight.
Speaker 3 (59:28):
Chelsea Miller, you're awesome.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Thank you so much for having me.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (59:48):
Thank you for listening to the Mic'd Up and
Motivated podcast brought to youby Inspired.
We appreciate it.
So you can reach back and grabthem.
I know, you know, I, you know tangibly know how to
help raise kids, because Ireally essentially did.
Both of my siblings tell me allthe time that I was more of a
parent to them than a sibling,which is highly accurate, and so
I knew, like, the skills to beable to help raise kids, but
there was also, like thisnatural outpour of like I never
got these things.
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I want to make sure that no kidexperiences what I did.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I want them to experience the love, the nurture
, the care the showing up, thepresence, and in that it was
healing for me at the same time.
Welcome to the Mic'd Up andMotivated podcast, where we
interview passionateprofessionals who empower young
people, impact lives and createpositive change in schools,
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organizations and communities.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Everybody in here has a talent and you have a gift
and you were given that gift sothat you can go change the world
.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hi, I'm Chelsea Miller.
With Chelsea Miller Coaching,I'm an inner child coach, an
encouragement consultant,trainer and a trauma healer.
I specialize in helpingmillennial women break free from
emotional baggage of toxic,emotionally immature or
narcissistic upbringings.
Through a blend of coaching,education and some spiritual
tools, I support clients inhealing their inner child,
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setting boundaries, reconnectingwith their true selves and
creating lives that feel safe,fulfilling and aligned.
I also train and certify othercoaches in my
encouragement-based method,empowering them to bring this
work into their own communities.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Chelsea Miller, how you doing today.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm great thanks.
How are you, jason?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm doing great.
I'm doing so great.
It is so awesome to have you onthe podcast and I was telling
you before we got on and startedrecording our podcast how much
I've followed you and kind ofadmired you from afar with all
that you do, and so I'm excitedabout this interview and excited
to get to know more about whatyou do.
(02:07):
So first of all, tell me howthings have been going Like.
How's life been for you so farin 2025?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
2025 is full of a lot of transitions.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's a big word.
I've been hearing that a lotfrom a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Lots of big pivots, lots of transitions, lots of
shedding and stepping into newthings, rebirthing.
So it's been a wild but very,very exciting year so far.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm looking forward tohearing more about that and,
like I said, I've been hearingthat word, that word transition,
from a lot of my friends, a lotof people in the industry, a
lot of professionals, and thatword transition.
And for you, what do you thinkthe word transition has meant
for you?
Like, has there been, liketransitions professionally, in
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your personal life?
Just what kind of?
What kind of transitions?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh, that is a loaded question.
So yes to all of that.
Yeah, I'm actually walkingthrough a divorce right now, so
that is a big transition.
I have two small children, sothat includes co parenting and
figuring things out in thisspace of how to live this new
life and shedding the old stuffand what am I stepping into.
(03:21):
But that's also given me thisopportunity to really dig in
deeper to who I am to at thesame time and it's like, okay,
what have I been doing thatisn't working so far and what am
I looking forward to in thefuture?
Like, what changes would I liketo make?
What do I want this, how do Iwant this to serve me and how do
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I want to heal in this and howdo I want to open up my own like
awareness and consciousness,and level up in this space and
digging into all that hard,messy stuff, and so that
obviously translates into thework that I'm doing as well.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
so, wow, wow, thank you a lot.
Yeah, yeah, that is a lot, butI love how you were just able to
share that.
You know, just be open andvulnerable and for our listeners
, I just we.
I know we kind of dove in deepright off the bat and this but
this is how amazing of a personyou are, you know.
You just kind of took thatquestion and say and then just
(04:18):
say you know what, I'm going tolay it on the line, I'm to be
transparent, I'm going throughthis, I'm going through that,
and so I really appreciate that.
I'm sure that's something thepeople you work with, which
we're going to talk about, whatyou do professionally, the
people you work with, I'm surethat's something they gravitate
towards.
Do you think there's being thatopen about things?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It is I think it's Brene Brown who says like
vulnerability breedsvulnerability.
Like I can't expect people tocome to me with their hard, dark
, messy things if I'm not alsoshowing up and doing the same
because, it creates thatcontainer of safety of like me
too it's.
I know what this is like becauseI've walked through it, and so
(04:58):
if I'm not showing up and livingin that like that space of
authenticity fully and showingup as this version of myself,
and how do I expect other peopleto have the courage and bravery
to step into that too?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, wow, that is so awesome.
I'm just going to say thisright now I'm so glad that we
had a chance to connect and andand meet.
And it's like just hearing youtalk the first few minutes.
I'm like, and it's like justhearing you talk the first few
minutes, I'm like she's the realdeal.
She is legit, she's the realdeal Really, seriously.
I mean, I applaud you, so talkto me about your journey
(05:35):
professionally.
How did you, did you findyourself doing what you're doing
today?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, that's another really great question, thank you
.
So actually my background is inchildcare.
I was a professional nanny for10 years.
That's where I started Fromthere.
I launched a nanny placementagency here locally where I was
helping match nannies withfamilies, and so in that space I
got certified to become aparent coach because I wanted to
(06:04):
make sure that all of mynannies were trained, like on
the same level that they all had, like that I wanted to make
sure they were fully equipped todo the work that you know they
were being hired to do.
And so through that I foundthis community of people who
were learning about positivediscipline, about, like, being
kind and firm, about beingmutually respectful, about
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raising a new generation ofchildren.
And that's where I found what Ido now, which is the inner
child coaching, theencouragement, consulting, which
basically is reparenting yourown inner child in order to
match those same values, becauseso many of us, as parents or
caregivers or whoever justadults in general, are just
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constantly walking around beingtriggered by our childhoods.
And so it's like this twofoldspace of like.
We're raising a new generationof people and we want them to
have, you know, these empoweredlife skills and be able to walk
into the world and bechangemakers without all of that
heavy baggage.
But we, as adults, are, youknow, we were traumatized, we
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were raised in toxicenvironments, most of us, and
we've got all of these mistakenbeliefs and core beliefs about
ourselves and about the worldthat, just like, weigh us down.
And so, in order to create thenew generation, we also have to
heal ourselves at the same time,so that we can meet them where
they need to be.
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay In along-winded way I started in
(07:31):
child care, and now I'm doing,I'm essentially doing the inner
child of the adults.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, no, no that that the long-winded answer is
great, because the more detail,the more it helps me.
And I'm just going to say rightnow, I'm kind of starstruck,
I'm listening to you talk aboutthis and I'm I'm thinking to
myself okay, this is going to bean interview, but this is also
going to kind of be a coachingsession.
You're going to walk me throughsome things, You're going to
gentle parent me through somethings to help me, Cause I'm
(08:00):
going to have some questionsthat are need help with
personally.
Yeah, absolutely, we all do weall do, yeah, but I love what
you said about that and I lovewhat you do and how you came
upon this, and I want to know,like so, when you tell people
(08:21):
what you do, what's the generalreaction that you get?
Like, what's the typicalreaction that you get?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So I start with the inner child coach and I get a
lot of really confused faces.
That's fair, that's totallyfair.
But then I usually saysomething along the lines of
it's kind of like therapy, but Ican't diagnose anything Because
really it's in that same spaceof being a mental health
professional and advocate.
I'm not a licensed mentalhealth professional, but it's in
the same space, and so that issomething that's more like
(08:52):
tangible that they canunderstand.
And then I might sort of getmore into like the details of
like okay, well, really I'mdealing with a lot of like
rewriting our childhood beliefs.
That's.
That's really essentially whatwe're doing.
So, whether it was traumatic,little T or big T, traumas,
we've all got them and we allhave these beliefs about
ourselves or the world that arejust mistaken.
(09:14):
That's all they are.
They're not wrong, they're notbad, they're just mistaken.
So being able to rewrite thoseand so being able to explain
that to people in a way theyunderstand is usually in that
like therapy, counseling space.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's so amazing.
Ok, all right, chelsea.
So let's go back.
Let's go back to your childhood.
Talk to me about that.
Talk to me about what what 10year old Chelsea was like, 12
year old Chelsea was like.
Talk to me about her.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That is a really good question, so I'm going to take
it back even a little furtherfor you.
There's so much background therethat is rich and very important
to all of this.
So I had teen parents they were19 years old, totally poverty
stricken families.
So no help, no support.
We moved around a lot a lot ofgenerational curses, a lot of
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traumatic environments, a lot ofquote unquote like abusive
tendencies that are just passeddown generationally but you know
, they weren't reallyconsciously aware of that was
traumatic or abusive.
And so, like most of us, wejust absorbed all of those
things the you're a child, soyou should be seen and not heard
(10:31):
.
You're a lady, so you should bepolite and quiet and a people
pleaser, and those kinds ofthings.
And so that was really like theenvironment of growing up was.
I had 19 year old parents whodidn't really know what they're
doing.
Not that any of us as parentsknow what they're doing, but at
19, it makes it a lot harder.
And so we went through justyears of this like storm of
(10:55):
messiness and so, um, thatreally laid that foundation of
like, okay, this is, this is alot of things, and it's any time
.
Anything under the age of sevenis when you're really just like
that sponge and you're soakingeverything, things, and it's.
Anything under the age of sevenis when you're really just like
that sponge and you're soakingeverything up and so I'm just
soaking up all of that traumaticenvironment and so, yes, by the
time I was 10, 12, I was stillmy inner child, was happy and
(11:19):
creative and free, and I'm aSagittarius, so I am a total
free spirit.
I love freedom and learning andknowledge and love and passion,
and all of the things.
I want my hands in everything.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, but there was also that sense of like I have
to be a good student, I have tobe quiet, I have to be seen and
not heard.
I have to.
There was a lot of likeemotional neglect growing up for
me.
It was not a lot of physical,there was a lot of like
emotional neglect growing up forme.
It was not a lot of physical,it was a lot of like you're just
going to go in your room andyou're going to stay there and
be quiet because your existenceis a burden to the family, and
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so it's like this okay, I'm justgoing to keep to myself, I'll
just entertain myself, I'll makemy needs very small, and that
is how I will show them that I'mworthy of their love.
And so that's how a lot of usoperate is, I will be quiet and
small and as least burdensome asI can be in order to survive
and get love and acceptance.
And so I was creative and funand sweet, but I was also
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suppressing all of my muchnessand trying to make it as small
as I possibly could.
So 10, 12 year old Chelsea hadexperienced a lot of things
already at that point.
Um, I had a family member whohad um an alive to herself, and
we took on her three children,and so we suddenly went from a
family of two children to fivechildren and they had a lot of
(12:42):
um, of concerns and a lot oflike.
They brought a lot into ourfamily and they had a lot of
things that needed to be dealtwith in an environment where
they had lost both parents, andso we had experienced that as a
family.
And then my parents split upafter that and then my parents
got remarried after that andthere was a lot of like just big
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breaks and a lot of big traumas.
On top of all of like, the mebeing the oldest child by six
years and having to feel likeI'm responsible for everything
and it's my job to keep thepeace and it's my job to show up
and be the best that Iabsolutely can be so that they
can show me off.
Look at what a good job we'redoing as parents.
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Because she is doing such agreat job, and so 10,
12-year-old Chelsea had a lot,but she was also very beautiful
and very vibrant and I loveconnecting with her because
she's so much fun and when.
I'm really needing to connect tomy joy centers.
That's where I go to is thespace of creativity and the fun
(13:46):
and the liveliness yeah, wow,that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Thank you for sharing that.
Just so many layers that youyou uncovered, I mean, and I
mean that's that's why I loveyou know, hearing about what you
do right, and so many of us asadults, we don't get to unpack
all of those things, we justcarry around the baggage.
And you being able to do thatand reframe it is awesome and
(14:12):
I'm sure it's a big part of yourjourney.
Now, you said you were theoldest.
The oldest of how many?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
That's very messy.
So technically, the oldest offour.
At one point.
We had my three cousins as well.
So if you count that there'sthree more.
So it's sort of like I've I'mone of four, but also one of
seven.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, no, no, that's okay, but I'm the oldest.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I'm the big blended mixed family and I'm the oldest
regardless.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, that's the most important factor there.
So, as a child going throughand let me preface this by
saying I work with a lot ofyouth as well and I see so much
of this taking place withintheir lives when they're going
through the messiness of theirfamily stuff but as a child, as
you were going through differentthings and going through the
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ebbs and flows of just childhood, was there ever a point where
you were like I don't know, isthis how life is supposed to
look, especially when you lookat it through the lens of how
other kids are living?
Did you ever ask yourself thatquestion, like, is this really
how life is supposed to be?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That is another great question.
I'm going to be honest Likemost people, I didn't start
asking those questions until Iwas an adult.
I was in my twenties where Istarted to look around and I'm
like wait a minute.
I started comparing my life andmy experiences to others and my
relationships with my familymembers individually and I'm
like, oh, wait a minute, thiswasn't normal, even though I was
(15:45):
like built to believe that itwas yeah it really actually
wasn't, and I was in my early20s before I started to sort of
like safely unpack those thingsand realize that this was not
normal.
So, in addition to all of that,my mother also has some really
deeply rooted I'm not going tothrow out a diagnosis, because
(16:06):
that not fair, but we'll justsay emotional immaturity for the
sake of public purposes.
But she has a lot of deep issuesand so I haven't spoken to her
in over 11 years and it was thislike I was not allowed to be my
own person.
I was like trained and raisedto be this like extension of her
, and so I did not even think Iwas allowed to ask those kinds
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of questions to myself growingup until I was an adult and I
was like, oh wait, I'm aseparate person from her, I'm
allowed to, I'm allowed to be myown person, but I'm allowed to
ask these kinds of questions.
And so, yeah, I didn't thinkthat I was allowed to ask these
kinds of questions.
And so, yeah, I didn't thinkthat I was allowed to ask those
kinds of questions.
And I was so connected andenmeshed and codependent with
her growing up that I just Icouldn't even see past what we
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had, in order to even think, thepossibility of asking myself a
question like that.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
No, yeah, I can relate to that so much.
And then so many of the youngpeople I work with can relate to
that, I'm sure.
If, like they could hear whatyou just said, it was snapping
their fingers, clapping like, ohyeah, girl, you tell it.
That's so real and so manypeople go through that.
And, like you said, we don'task those questions until we get
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to an adult age and we lookback and reflect and it's like,
okay, yeah, that was not, thatwasn't normal, but we normalized
it Right.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Um, and it's how we survived, like if we start to
question at a young age, whenwe're 12 or 14, is this normal?
If I would have started todeconstruct those things at 14,
in a space where I couldn't haveescaped a family life that was
sort of toxic, but notnecessarily abusive, I wouldn't
have survived the way that I didas an adult, because you can't
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get away.
You don't know how to setboundaries at 14 or 10, or
however old it is, and so it'ssafer for survival purposes and
those spaces to sort of justtake it sometimes.
And that's why we, why we don'task those questions, because if
we did, things would unravel,and then what would we do?
We're children, we can't escapeour situations yeah, no, yeah,
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I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I want to.
I want to touch on that reallyquickly, but I have a question.
Yeah, that I you kind of youkind of referenced it, you
alluded to it, uh.
But so what was it that helpedyou survive?
Did you have people who?
Did you play sports?
Were you involved inextracurricular activities?
What was it that helped youmake it through the messiness of
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what you went through as a kid?
I did musicals and show choirand all those and that was my
escape.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That was like the place that I could go to and
actually be my own personoutside of my family or whatever
was going on.
I had a safe, supportivecommunity in that and it was an
outlet too.
And then, if you get even deeperinto it, music is soothing for
your nervous systems and it'sreleasing and there's all kinds
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of beautiful benefits andholistic healing benefits to
music and singing and all anddancing and movement, and so I
can see now why that was sohelpful for me, but also the
community that I was able tobuild in those spaces.
But um, for me it was music.
That was my escape of how I wasable to survive and let out all
of the things without evenrealizing that I was doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah.
So were you a vocalist?
Did you play instruments Likewhat was your lane musically?
I was a singer oh wow Okay, Idid choir and theater and I did
some competitions with, likebarbershop quartets and those
kinds of things, but it was, itwas vocals nice, I'm gonna have
to ask no, I'm not gonna put youif you, if you're feeling in
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your bones throughout thispodcast, you want to just sing
something like and a little sidenote, this is, this is how
nerdy I am, like the other daythere we go, there, we.
I love nerds.
I tell the young people yeah,I'm nerdy, but I make it look
cool.
I do it with all of them.
Right, I'm swag with mynerdiness.
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I love that.
Yeah so that's how I reframe it.
It's all about the reframing,right?
So I was working the other dayand I listened to my playlist
and whatnot and I getsidetracked a lot.
So I stopped working.
And I was working the other dayand I listened to my playlist
and whatnot and I getsidetracked a lot.
So I stopped working and I waslike and I was singing to a
particular song.
I'm like I want to know how tosing.
You know I sing all the time,but I know I can't sing.
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People have told me I can'tsing and so I just started
Googling, like, can people learnhow to sing or is it a natural?
Like, is it a natural?
Like is it a natural gift?
And like, for the next hour,I'm just googling, like how to
sing and like trying to self,like, self-teach myself.
You know the, the singing, andit was like it was just a I went
down a weird rabbit trail butlike that's just the nerdiness
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in me and I'm like, okay, I'mnever to be a singer, why am I
doing this?
So like, does someone whoactually can sing like what is
it like being able to have thatgift, that talent?
Because, like, really, I wish Icould do that.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And you could.
That's the thing.
It's just like any other talentor skill you know it's like
okay, I don't know how to playbasketball, but if I really put
in the time and effort andenergy, like.
I could do it and I could learnit as a skill.
And sure, some people are morenaturally like gifted in one
area or another, but you canalways put in the effort to
learn how to do something, andit's no different with singing.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh wow, see, now you just kind of lit the fire back
up.
Now, after I finished thispodcast, I'm going to go back to
researching how I was hopingyou didn't do that.
I was hoping you would kind ofkill that dream right now, like
no, jason you're not a singer.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'm not a dream killer, jason, that's not.
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You're not.
That would go againsteverything that you stand for.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
And I say if you want to sing, you go for it, whether
you're good at it or not, Ifyou find joy in it, that is what
matters.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
There you go.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
A four-year-old out there with no pitch or tune or
anything can go out there andstill do it and love it and kill
it.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, Now see, I'm going to hit you up Now you're
going to become my vocal coach.
You're going to teach me.
Forget the Googling stuff.
If I got somebody in real lifethat can help me, that's the
person right there.
But I appreciate that.
I appreciate that and just thepositivity.
So I want to go here, so we'retalking a little bit about your
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journey and I want to go to thispoint because this is my
favorite demographic to workwith, and I want to go to this
point because this is myfavorite demographic to work
with teenagers and young adults.
So, going through the childhoodand all the things that you had
to deal with family-wise, nowyou're getting to the young
adult years and tell me a littlebit about the high school,
college, and how you start totake shape and your life starts
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to take shape.
Take us back to that time.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Take shape and your life starts to take shape.
Take us back to that time.
So, high school, I was the 4.0student because I was trying to
perform and be a trophy and domy absolute best so that people
could show me off, basically,and so I killed myself to get
those grades.
I mean, most of it camenaturally through intelligence,
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but it also was a lot of effortand energy in order to do that,
and so I was exhausted all thetime.
And I think it was my senioryear where I started just like
having these episodes.
Where I was I didn't realize itat the time, but it was panic I
was having such deep panicattacks that I was passing out
like in the middle of thehallways.
(23:54):
I was like like just falling inthe hallways and crying and not
being able to like come up withassignments, but I still was
like putting so much, so muchpressure on myself to perform
and be the absolute best that Icould be, and it was.
It was essentially killing mefrom the inside out and my body
was starting to talk to me andtell me hey, something is not
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right here.
And everyone just sort ofbrushed it aside.
And you know we looked into itmedically and all that.
But it was like nobody told methat it was anxiety, nobody told
me that it was undiagnosed ADHD, no one told me it was CPTSD,
nobody told me that I wascrushing myself and just trying
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to be the best that I could.
And also I wasn't allowed totalk about those things either.
There were no safe spaces atthe time for me to say, hey,
this is actually really hard forme, this doesn't come as easy
for me as I make it look, I'mstruggling.
I was expected to excel at itand be good at it easily, and so
there was nowhere for me toshare those things, and it
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wasn't as common then either asit might be now.
I know that teens now strugglewith a lot as well, and so it's
like there just weren't safespaces, it wasn't as open to
share about your feelings, andit was like this is just the
expectation.
And so by the time I graduatedhigh school and jumped into
college, I had completelycrashed.
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I was, I went from this 4.0completely like put together
high school student who had somuch potential and so much
expectation put on me and alsothe fact that you know I was the
oldest, I was, you know thishighly intelligent person.
So my family put a lot ofexpectation in me to be the
first to graduate college, to bethe first to like pull us out
(25:44):
of this poverty space, and sothere was a lot of pressure.
And so I got to college, didn'tknow what the heck I was doing,
all of a sudden had to worryabout not only grades, but now I
have to learn how to like liveon my own and have a job and pay
for things, and it crushed me,and so I failed out of my first
year of college and did notreally go back.
I kind of like dabbled here andthere, and that crushed me.
(26:07):
I carried so much shame overthat for such a long time
because I thought there wassomething inherently wrong with
me.
Why, like how could I havepossibly fumbled that so badly
when I was smart enough andshould have been able to just do
it?
And now I've obviously workedthrough that and processed it
and realized, like, what wasactually happening and how big
that was.
But at the time, like my early,that early like college age,
(26:31):
that was a really, reallydifficult time for me.
And then that was also thepoint where I started to like
piece things together with likemy parents and like my childhood
of like, oh wait, maybe thiswas not okay and things just
started to completely unraveland I'm glad they did, because
that's where you find like thereally good stuff but at the
time it was like my whole worldfell apart yeah, yeah, and this
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was in college where, or that,that age where it's like the,
the crash out started to happen,right, yeah, and so how did you
?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
again?
Because I know so many people,I know so many young people,
especially especially collegeage right now, and even friends
that I've had that I have withthat point was like, okay, when
they experienced that theydidn't rebound, they didn't come
back from it.
It was like it was just adownward spiral from there.
So how did you come back fromthat?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So I caught myself in my nannying career.
So I caught myself in mynannying career so because I
wasn't in college and I was justlike.
I don't know what I'm going todo with my life now, because
this is all that I've everworked for my entire life was
this.
And now I don't have that.
And so what do I do?
And so nannying is what caughtme.
I started working with kids andfalling in love with life again
(27:49):
and enjoying like being in theirspace and having fun doing
childhood things that I didn'treally get to do because of the
environments that I grew up in,and so I got to be a kid again,
growing up and helping raiseother generations.
And that is really what savedme and caught me from totally
like not rebounding.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Wow, and so how long did you do nannying?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I did that for 10 years.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Okay, Okay, so talk a little bit about how.
What was it about?
I know you alluded to it again,but what was it specifically
about nannying and finding yourniche net that you felt you feel
like it kind of freed you to toand opened your you up to
another, another area of yourlife?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
so very often um people like me and others who
grow up in like these traumaticchildhoods and experiences.
We find ourselves giving otherpeople the things that we never
got yeah, and so for me it wasnurturing, it was attention, it
presence, and so for me I foundmyself just this outpouring of
love and nurture and care forother human beings which really
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I always had growing up.
If I look back, I mean I wasthe oldest sibling.
I know, you know I, you knowtangibly know how to help raise
kids, because I reallyessentially did Both of my
siblings tell me all the timethat I was more of a parent to
them than a sibling, which ishighly accurate, and so I knew,
like, the skills to be able tohelp raise kids.
But there was also, like, thisnatural outpour of like I never
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got these things.
I want to make sure that no kidexperiences what I did.
I want them to experience thelove, the nurture, the care, the
showing up, the presence, andin that it was healing for me at
the same time to be,able to give that and see it and
see them receive it and seelike all those good beautiful
things that maybe I didn't get.
But like having an acceptanceabout that of like, okay, I
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didn't get this and that washard, that sucks, but I accept
that I didn't get that and I cansee that I'm so capable of
giving it to others and what abeautiful like gift it is for
them to receive it at the sametime.
And so you know it was fundoing like the zoo trips and the
parks and you know let's dothis fun craft and those things
(30:04):
were healing for my inner childtoo.
But really it was more aboutlike that nurturing, loving
presence and that connection andrelationship that you get to
build with them.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And it takes the pressure off not being the
parent.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Now I'm a parent of two so it's like totally
different.
Yeah right, I wish I could goback to being an auntie.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yes, right, but it's like being able to give that in
a space without all the pressureof being a parent.
It was like I got to be yourmentor and your friend and your
guide and also, like you know, aparental figure of sorts.
But like, really we're here forthe fun, I was there for the
fun and that it like that wasjust so, so important to be able
to be there for that space.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So you are listening to the Mic'd Up and Motivated
podcast presented by Inspire toReach Higher to reach higher.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
All right, welcome back to the Mic'd Up and
Motivated podcast.
I'm your host, jason A Dixon,and I've been talking to the
amazing Chelsea Miller and shehas been just telling us about
this amazing journey she's beenon.
And Chelsea, again, we weretalking off air.
I got to share this.
Okay, I was talking about howwe have never met Like and we're
(31:17):
both from the same city, fromToledo and like how we've never
met but like being able to like,connect with you and talk to
you on this podcast, like I feellike I've known you forever.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Right, I've known you forever, yeah it feels like
friends, absolutely I know.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
So just hearing your story and hearing about how, all
the things that you overcameand how you got to this point
and we left off talking aboutyour nannying career and how
that shift for you helped you.
So talk about when you feltlike it was time to move on from
nannying and what thattransition was like.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, that's another great question.
So the end of my nannyingcareer was not necessarily a
choice.
It came with COVID.
That was my last year.
So in 2016, I launched a nannyplacement agency because I was
like, okay, I love nannying, butI also was in that space where
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like, okay, I failed college,that didn't work out.
I failed college again.
That didn't work out.
So what?
Like I know that I'm meant formore, I know that I have all
this potential, but I don't knowwhat to do with it.
And so I'm like, okay, we'll dowhat you know.
Then what I know is nannying.
What I know is coming intopeople's homes and being this
professional helping raise thisnew generation of kids and being
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helpful to parents who areworking and trying to put food
on the table.
And you know, impactcommunities through their work
and still be parents at the sametime.
That this is what I know how todo.
And so that's when I was likepulling ideas, and so I came up
(32:59):
with the Nanny Placement Agency,and so I was like this feels
like a really good place for meto be of, like I'm offering
something to the community andmaking a difference.
I'm giving people things thatthey need and still making a
really big impact, because thenannies that I place in people's
homes are helping raise newgenerations.
And so for me, it was vastlyimportant for me to be able to
make sure that they wereimparting the really important
(33:19):
things that I would also want tobe giving in my own nanny
families.
I want to be able to essentiallylike duplicate myself in these
homes and make sure that thesefamilies are getting this full
quality experience and thesekids are getting this love,
nurturing connection and, youknow, discipline, not punishment
, but this discipline and thisbeing raised in a certain
(33:42):
specific way where, like theirthoughts and their feelings and
all of their, all of the thingsare valuable, all of the things
are valuable.
And like I just felt like thisgeneration of kids needed this,
and so how can I give that inmore spaces?
And so to me that was like abig piece of why I started that
agency.
It was I want to make adifference here and I want to
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impart all of these values andskills, and so the best way to
do that is, to make sure thatthey're all certified in the
same thing that I am.
Which was that positivediscipline?
So that is that was yeah.
So, yeah, that's, that waswhere I went from.
There was the nanny to theagency to like, okay, well, how
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can I do this for more families?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, okay, I read this, this ripple effect of what
I'm doing yeah, yeah, and I so,as you're telling me this, your
journey and this and how youhad to pivot, and I just get
this picture of like somebodywho's like being knocked down,
but like it was just thisresilience, like you just keep
(34:48):
getting back up and when peoplethink that you're done, they
count you out.
It's like, oh, tell us you'recoming back, like she's not
stopping, she's going to keepgoing, like just the grit and
the grind that's still withinyou.
I love that.
I love that.
So talk to me about how it'sbeen going.
You know how it's been going.
(35:10):
Has there been any challengesfor you?
What?
what has been like the toughestpart of of of that Um, of having
grit, or where I'm at now, whenyou're at now.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, okay, yes.
So COVID was a hard hit, sothat knocked out the agency, um,
and that ended my nanny career.
I also became a mom of two, soI had two kids and trying to do
all the things, it just wasn'tworking.
And so that's where I foundwhere I do now this inner child
coaching, and that hit me sohard, where I was like I want to
spend my life doing this, Iwant to help heal other people.
(35:44):
And I had gone back and dealtwith all of those things that
we've talked about and came outthe other side of this a
completely different person, andI was like how can I not reach
back and help everybody?
else because this was sopowerful and so impactful and it
also creates that ripple effectthat I'm looking for, and so
(36:05):
the pivots that I experience andthe resilience that I have each
time is what always ends upgetting me to that place where I
know that I'm supposed to be,and each time gets me to like
that new level.
So, yeah, I've seen a lot oflike these knockdown moments,
but each time I know that it'sreally just sort of redirecting
me and helping me get to adifferent space that I may not
(36:26):
have come to on my own yeah,yeah, that's so amazing to be
able to kind of see it from thatperspective.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
So let's talk a little bit about now, what
you're doing now and the workthat you do with parents.
Let's start there.
I can attest to this also.
I work with teens and youngadults, but I tell people I'm
also working with parents.
I'm also working with coachesand teachers the people that are
(36:55):
connected to those young people.
So what are the biggest thingsthat you see right now that
parents are struggling with whenit comes to their young people,
their kids?
If you could pinpoint or boilit down to a few things.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Oh so the struggles, especially parents, of like the
teens and stuff.
I mean there's the obviousthings like the technology and
just like the the like worldenvironment that we have right
now.
That's an obvious one.
But I think some of the biggerthings that parents are really
struggling with that I hear themost often is this like
dichotomy of like still holdingon to like the traditional
(37:34):
parenting values but alsowanting to like give better than
what they got, and so there'slike war going on, and it
usually also is not just withinthemselves but also within each
parent.
So like one parent might bemore traditional and one parent
might like have seen some gentleparenting things and wants to,
you know, implement them andthey're just butting heads and
that's creating so much chaosand confusion in the kids
(37:56):
because there's no consistency,and so one might be
disrespectful and one parent isgoing to come down hard and the
other one is going to like comein and undermine.
Now, I think, is the biggestthing.
They're just so lost andconfused on what the right way
is and, honestly, there is noright way, like there is no
(38:25):
parenting expert.
You are the expert of your ownkids and, yeah, we can give you
like tools and skills andinformation, but you know what's
best.
Like you're the parent, you'rethe expert.
Nobody can come in and say thisis the one size fits all, right
way to parent.
And so because of that, I thinkparents are just generally
feeling kind of lost.
And do we stick to the oldstuff?
Are we supposed to be goinginto the new stuff?
Well, the new stuff doesn'twork and we're not getting the
(38:47):
results that we're looking forand it's just messy in general.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, yeah, no, I love what you said and I can
relate to that and I, you know,when I talk to parents, I use
this illustration with us.
I ask them, like okay, how manyof you are still dressing your
kids or in the same things theywere wearing when they were two
(39:12):
or three years old, like?
And nobody raises their hand,obviously, and I'm like, okay,
your kids have grown, they'veevolved, right, and that's the
same thing that you have to doas a parent.
I see a lot of parents and Iwould love to hear this from
your perspective but I see a lotof parents who don't evolve and
grow with their kids.
It's like their kids are 16, 17, and they're still trying to
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parent them like they're eightor nine years old.
It's like, yeah, they outgrewthose clothes and they outgrew
that type of parenting style.
So you have to grow and evolvewith them, and I feel like
that's a little bit of whatyou're kind of alluding to, but
I want you to speak to that inyour own words as well.
Do you see that?
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, absolutely, and to be honest.
I think, like all those skillsand all of the different
parenting styles are important,but I think what's more
important is healing your ownself and healing your own inner
child, because you can'tapproach them and help them and
guide them and, you know,discipline them, which really is
just nurturing and helping themnavigate life.
(40:13):
You can't do that if you don'tknow what you're doing yourself
Like, if you're lost andconfused and a mess in here, how
can you expect them to feelstrong and secure in who they
are, to be able to make good,positive decisions or be able to
make good choices forthemselves if we're a hot mess
going on in here?
And yes, we can, we show up andwe do the best we can.
But this is the most importantthing you can do for your kids
(40:34):
is showing up as a strong,secure model in life for them,
so that they can see it.
Yeah, that's the most importantthing we can do for them.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
You're right.
You're right, that's so good,that's so good.
So what is it like when you'reworking with a parent?
You're talking to a parent andthey have like this epiphany,
like, and you're encouragingthem to heal that inner child
and it's thinking back todifferent things that they went
through as a child, connectingthe dots right.
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What is that moment like, wherethey're taking it back, where
you're taking them back?
Is it like I can imagine?
It's like a variation ofemotions, but it's kind of
taking me in that world.
What is it like when they'reexperiencing that?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
It's almost always anger and grief first.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
It's like this.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Oh, that wasn't the right way for me to have been
raised in that moment and it'sthat moment of like.
Oh, I wasn't treated as well asI thought I was.
And oh, that wasn't best and Ithought it was.
And that's what I've beenimparting on my children and, oh
my gosh, I've been, you know,just passing on this
generational trauma and not evenrealizing it.
(41:46):
And so almost always, when itcomes to the parents who are
going back in those ways, it'slike this grief and some anger
towards, you know, their parent,even though it's really that's
just misdirected.
They're just angry and hurtthat it happened in general, um,
but it's.
It's usually that grief.
It's like that, like, oh, thatwasn't okay and I thought it was
(42:08):
.
So that's that's almost always,like the, the immediate
reaction to realizing thatthat's why they're behaving the
way they are in their parentingis because that's how they were
raised and how it made them feeland those kinds of things.
So yeah, it's almost alwaysgrief that I see the most often.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, yeah, and that's so good, and so I'm not a
parent, but I'm thinking aboutwhat you just said and I can
imagine that, because one of thethings I said and I love my
parents, they're still married.
I know they drive each othercrazy, you know.
But one of the things that Isaid growing up when I got to
the point at like my twenties,thirties I'm 43 now but one of
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the things that I always said isthat I don't want to be like my
dad and I love him.
I love my dad.
He's been there for me, doneeverything for my brother and I,
but I always said I don't wantto be like him, I want to be a
better father than him.
And so when I hear what you'resaying, I can understand that
(43:10):
grief and that anger, becausethere were things that happened
during my childhood that I waslike, that made me disassociate
and disconnect from my dadespecially.
But as I'm hearing you say that, I'm like I'm thinking to
myself okay, after we deal withthat, what's the next step After
the grief and the anger?
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What's the next step thatparents, that you kind of guide
parents to?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
that parents, that you kind of guide parents to
yeah, so after we're able toidentify, like somatically I
mean we go really deep into whatemotion this is.
Where do you feel it in yourbody, what does it look like
Like we get really deep intowhat that is so then we're able
to like pinpoint the memory ofexactly when that happened and
from there we're able to connectwith that version of them where
that happened.
So let's say you were sevenyears old.
We're going to imagine thatseven-year-old Jason that's
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sitting right next to you andwe're going to give him that
reparenting and rewrite thosemessages and talk to him as if
he's right there and rewritethose things and help, encourage
and heal that so that he cantake that and bring it back into
himself and move on in regularlife with this new reparenting
(44:21):
and this new like rewirednervous system and brain
circuits, so that we don't haveto keep walking around with
whatever that mistaken beliefwas at seven.
Yeah, you get to walk in withthis new, healed, you know,
revised version and walk intothe world as if that actually
happened.
So it's a lot of encouraging,it's a lot of rewriting, it's a
(44:43):
lot of okay.
How would I handle this now asan adult if this was my child
and most of it is like I wouldjust hug them, I hear that.
So I would just tell them howmuch I love them.
Like I would just want to sitwith them and show them how,
like, what, how precious theyare, like that is so much of
like what we didn't get growingup is just acknowledged, loved,
(45:07):
cared for in ways that I'm sureour parents were doing for us,
but in ways that we didn't seeor understand at the time,
especially in those hard moments, and so in those hard moments,
that's what we needed the most.
So we're going to give it tothem.
Yeah, we're going to give it tothem in those moments where they
needed it, and then we're goingto take it with us.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeah Well, chelsea, you are the real deal.
I'm serious like that.
This is the interview.
But I'm like, okay, tell memore.
I'm taking mental notes and sowhat I'm hearing?
No-transcript explain it topeople.
(46:25):
So when you're working withother parents and adults and
that light bulb goes off andthey get that epiphany and they
realize that, okay, this is theway I am right now, like what do
you tell them next?
Like what is?
What do you tell them to dofrom that point on?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, so in a session , after we've gone through like
the encouragement and thehealing and we've come to like a
good place and we do a littleprocessing, I help them
understand what their newawareness is.
I help them understand whatthey're accepting about
themselves.
Because here's this thing aboutlike there's like this light
and this darkness, and thelightness is what we want to
show the world, and we just hideall the dark.
(47:08):
It's shameful, it's bad, it'sdirty.
We don't want anybody to seeour bad, dark, messy stuff,
right, and so instead, whatwe're doing is I'm helping them
go through it and pick at itpiece by piece and bring it into
the light and say it's okay,it's okay that you feel jealous,
it's okay that you responded inthat way to survive, it's okay
(47:28):
that you people pleased in orderto stay safe, it just is.
And so, helping them see fromwhatever that memory or whatever
that moment was, what can westart to accept about ourselves
instead of judge or shameourselves for.
And then, what do we want to dowith that?
What's a small action step thatwe want to take, moving forward
, this minuscule baby step thatsays now I have all this
(47:51):
information and this healing.
What do I want to do with it?
What's my small thing that Ican take into the world now,
feeling what do I want to dowith it?
What's my small thing that Ican take into the world now, um,
and so they like leave everysession with like okay, I have
like a plan to yeah, yeah,that's awesome, that is so
awesome.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
we need more Chelsea Millers in the world.
I'm telling you and I know theparents and the people you work
with have to be so grateful forjust being like your breath of
fresh air and like yourperspective and you come from
and you're real like you'velived these things Right.
So talk a little bit about thewhen you work with young people
(48:30):
and the difference, thedifferences between working with
the parents and thentransitioning to work with the
young people, the kids, theteenagers, the young adults.
Talk a little bit about thatexperience.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Absolutely so.
I do see teens and kidsoccasionally, so for them it's
less reparenting.
There's a little bit of itthere, especially with the teens
, but for them it's more likeokay, how can I show them what
their self-worth is?
How can I get them to like, befully in their bodies?
How can I get them tounderstand how to identify their
emotions?
How do I get them to know, like, who are safe people to share
(49:06):
things with and who are not?
Like, how can I prevent all ofthese mistaken beliefs that we
all, you know, have experienced?
How can I prevent that for themand what tools and skills can I
give them so that they have asafe place to share hard things?
They know how to identify theirfeelings.
They know how to set boundaries.
They know, you know, aboutconsent, about their bodies,
like there's so many things thatwe want them to know.
(49:29):
And then there are some thingswe can help them reprocess
absolutely, and they're able todo that.
But for them, the kids and theyounger teens, it's more about
what skills can I give them.
How can I offer them these safethings and these tools that
they may or may not have accessto ordinarily?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Right, yeah, yeah, I love that.
So let me ask you this question.
I'm nerding out here, so haveyou ever heard of the word
ephebophobia?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Ephebophobia, it's the fear of teenagers, the fear
of young people.
So I give talks and I talk toteens about it, young adults and
I talk to parents about it.
They're surprised when theyhear about it.
But when I talk to parentsabout the word epiphophobia and
I tell them, like okay, imagineyou're walking down the street
(50:23):
and you see a group of teenagers, right, the typical response is
like okay, to like maybe crossthe street or like pull back a
little bit.
You have this inherent fear andworry about young people and I
feel like it also creates thisdivide and disconnect.
Like the older generations,like these young people, they
don't oh, they care about thetechnology and all this stuff
(50:45):
and like that, these youngwhippersnappers, yeah, yeah.
It's like back in my day.
Back in my day, right, so talka little bit about that.
I know I introduced a word toyou, but do you see that also
like the inherent fear thatadults and even parents have of
like their own kids, this agegroup, and where do you think
(51:07):
that stems from?
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Oh, that's a really good question.
I think it stems from so we'vetalked a little bit about like
inner children, but there's alsoinner teens and inner teens Our
own inner teenagers, are filledwith so much anger and angst
and rage, and I think that'swhat turns people off, is they
do not remember, they'vesuppressed all of those feelings
(51:29):
so deeply and they are afraidof being mirrored by teenagers.
Teenagers represent somethingfor them that they have hidden
so deeply and I think that'smore what they're afraid of.
And sure, I'm sure there'sthings that they're afraid of
too, where they're like you know, the world's going to hell in a
handbasket, those kinds ofthings, and it's all their fault
because it's always the nextgeneration's fault, um, but I
(51:53):
think it's also more this senseof like they trigger and mirror
this version of themselves thathas so much repressed emotion
and experience that they justhave not allowed themselves to
access or even remotely likeentertain, and so I think that's
really like.
(52:13):
The root of that is like wow, Iwas so angry at that age and
nobody heard me and nobodylistened to me and I had no
control over myself and all ofthese like really hard.
You know, I wanted to be olderthan I was and I was capable and
I was strong and people held meback and whatever it was that
they were experiencing in thattime, I think it's just so
suppressed and they just.
It just triggers it.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Yeah, yeah, well, and that was a great way of like.
I know I put you on the spot,but like you were ready, it's
like that was amazing how youjust broke that down.
Like I've been saying you arethe real deal, like.
So I like I look at you andI've gotten to hear your story
that you know listeners havegotten to hear your story.
I'm sitting back and I'mlooking at like yeah, yeah, I
(52:59):
know her, like I'm gonna go outin public and I was like I know
chelsea miller.
You did like this.
This woman is like amazing,there has to like.
So when you look at like it'sall that you've been through and
um, where you are now, like whoare some people who played a
role in helping you get to thispoint?
Who are some people who playeda role in helping you get to
this point?
Who are some people who like orjust like, who smile with pride
(53:23):
when they look at what you'redoing right now.
It's like I'm, I'm amazed, I'mexcited, like who are those
people who've been instrumentalin your journey?
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Oh, that was a great question.
Two people immediately come tomind.
One is my own therapist.
Her name is Christy.
She's amazing.
I've been seeing her for almostnine years now and she, let's
see, I was 26.
And I was having suicidalideations and just feeling like
(53:53):
all the shame and guilt of youknow all of that early 20s in
addition to all of you know allof that early twenties in
addition to all of you know mychildhood stuff.
And so I came to her and shereally made this huge,
significant difference in me andshe poured into me and then has
also seen me be able to pourinto others and so I that is a
great relationship that I haveand I look up to her so much.
(54:15):
And she was this pivotal momentfor me of like life doesn't
have to be like this, it doesn'thave to be this hard, like you
can love yourself and you canencourage yourself.
And so she was huge for me.
And then my mentor in the spacethat I am now with my
encouragement, consulting Deb.
She's incredible.
(54:36):
She's older than I am but she'sbeen doing this for many years.
She is a licensed therapist butshe's in this same inner child
space with Illyrian psychology.
That's more brainy stuff forwhat I do, um, but she is this
um, warm, kind, spiritual, like,just encourage, like she just
(54:57):
is encouragement, and she hasshown me how to take all of this
, all of these skills andcharacters and qualities that I
have and have learned, all theseexperiences, and turn them into
how to help others, like likethe logistics of it.
And so I just admire her somuch and all the work she's able
to do and the people she's ableto help and I've learned how to
(55:18):
, you know, expand and grow andbe more authentic in who I am
and what I'm doing because ofher.
And so those absolutely top ofmind were the top two that came
to me.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
Yeah, that's awesome, and we all need people like
that.
You know, and just listening tothe impact that they've had on
your life and your journey, Iknow they're super proud of you.
So, as we wrap up, I have acouple more questions for you,
and so the next one is I want toknow what is next for Chelsea
(55:52):
Miller, what's next for you inthis chapter of your life and
what are you looking forward to?
Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yes, so in this transition, in this space that
I've been in, I am learning moreof, I've been diving more into
like all of these holisticpractices.
So last year I spent timedigging into I got certified to
be through trauma, so liketrauma was a big thing of
something that I worked through.
But now I'm digging more intolike um the somatics and the
(56:22):
nervous systems and somespirituality stuff and digging
into intuition and energy workand um just more of like this
spiritual, holistic um space andlike how can I incorporate that
into what I'm doing as well, sothat that is sort of like the
direction that I'm heading into.
Next is incorporating my ownspiritual gifts and intuitions
(56:46):
and clairs into what I'm doing.
So I'm really, really lookingforward to yeah.
I haven't quite pieced ittogether, but that's.
I'm excited for how it's goingto unfold.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yeah, and just going based on you have a track record
of finding a way to make itwork.
If there's nothing else.
If I'm watching a movie ofChelsea Miller, I can see in the
movie it looks like she's goingto be defeated by the enemy
right now.
No, she's going to come backswinging.
She's going to find a way tomake it work.
(57:21):
Well, I can see that.
Definitely.
I know you're going to be supersuccessful.
So people who want to connectwith you, who want to work with
you, who want to find out moreabout how they can work with
Chelsea Miller, like, how canthey connect with you?
How?
Like?
How can they connect with you?
How can they get in touch withyou?
Speaker 1 (57:39):
That's awesome.
So I'm on all socials TikTok,Instagram, Facebook under
Chelsea Miller Coaching, so youcan reach me there.
The same is for my email,Chelsea Miller Coaching at Gmail
.
You can find me on my personalpage too.
Lots of people do.
I've got a free like group pagethat I put stuff in like every
single day of like you know,just funny things or
(58:03):
inspirational things, so you canfind me there.
That's called the Healing Haven.
So yeah, but you're welcome toreach out to me on my personal
page as well.
People do all the time.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
Okay, awesome, all right.
So final question All right, Iwant you to imagine there is a
young girl out there who isgoing through the things that
you went through as a child andshe happens to stumble upon this
(58:33):
podcast and hear you talk andshe's identifying with things
that you've said, especiallythings that you went through as
a child.
What do you want to say to her?
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Oh, so many things.
I want to tell you to keepgoing.
I want to tell you that you areway stronger than you think you
are and I know that this ishard, but you're doing it and
you're doing such a better jobat this than you think you are,
and that you are literal magic.
You are magic and everythingyou do and everything you touch
(59:06):
just lights up and is better inthis world because you're here
and you exist in it.
So keep going and find peoplethat you can trust to share the
hard things with, and it's okayto struggle and make mistakes,
but just show up and be who youare and just shine your light,
because that is the best thingthat you can do in this world is
just show up and shine yourlight.
Speaker 3 (59:28):
Chelsea Miller, you're awesome.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Thank you so much for having me.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (59:48):
Thank you for listening to the Mic'd Up and
Motivated podcast brought to youby Inspired.
We appreciate it.
So you can reach back and grabthem.
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