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Can gummy bears hold the secrets to a successful business pivot? Discover the surprising journey of Sean Ryan, who traded the high stakes of drug dealing for a sweet empire in the candy world. We unravel how these gummy delights have captured consumer hearts, especially during the holiday season, and ponder the logistics that make them successful commodities. Dive into an unexpected twist as we reflect on the peculiar case of Matt Livelsberger, a former Green Beret, whose curious demise leaves us questioning the ties between advanced technology briefings and a potential brush with anti-gravity mysteries.

Uncover the tantalizing threads of conspiracy and intrigue as we dissect an alleged United Nations cover-up involving scandal, encrypted messages, and a potentially faked death. Personal chaos—ranging from genetic revelations to relationship crises—adds complex layers to this narrative, leading us to explore how immense pressure might drive individuals to take drastic measures. As we navigate through high-stakes scenarios, consider the possibility of orchestrated disappearances and the broader implications of personal and political stress on extreme actions.

Step into the enigmatic realm of military secrets and clandestine technology, where Tesla's self-driving vehicles might just play a role in covert operations. Traverse the moral quandaries of warfare and the psychological impact on veterans, alongside the shadowy world of unconventional warfare discussed in chilling detail. From the humorous misconceptions of drones to the sobering realities of California's wildfires and property challenges, our conversation weaves through fascinating tales of espionage, personal turmoil, and the relentless spirit of those who serve. Join us for a thought-provoking journey through the kaleidoscope of modern mysteries and untold stories.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
a lot happened.
A lot happened.
Did we talk about the guy lastweek?
We did a little bit.
The two guys, we talked aboutboth.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I guess there's not that much to say about that well
, and because the first welllouisiana guy as much yeah and
uh, we talked a lot more aboutthe louisiana guy than we did
the Tesla guy.
I have no memory of that.
It was just brief.
We were just like both thesethings happened and we focused
on the Louisiana guy because,hey, are these to share, by the

(00:35):
way?
Yeah, these are to share.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Pat, here is shelling out for some Vigilance Elite
gummy bears, oh yeah, whichactually weren't these a
Christmas gift to you by yourbrother-in-law, or something
last year.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
They were last year.
This year.
I ordered them actually whilewe were doing the podcast, like
three weeks ago.
Oh yeah, they popped up like Iwas like oh, I just like, while
we were talking, I got on thereand I just ordered four bags.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
They are pretty good.
I eat them one at a timebecause of how flavorful they
are.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I know, I was driving in my truck today and I just
like mindlessly dumped a wholehandful in and then, just you
know like dad-disposaled them.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
And I was like what have I done?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
What a waste.
I was working, hadn't eaten.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I was hungry very delicious shoveling some horse
hoof and it's hard to come by.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
but uh, they were available and I ordered them up.
Thank you, I wonder, I wish, Iwish I could know from a
businessman's perspective, likegummy bears alone, what that
brings in to what he does,especially like around the
holidays, like, like, did theyorder like literally an 18
wheeler full, or did they justorder like 12 cases?

(01:55):
Yeah, I'd assume, because howlarge his following is and how
much he pushes it every showsomewhere between 12 cases and
18 wheeler, maybe two 18wheelers, I no idea.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I just like to know we ever listened to sean ryan uh
, when he gave his liketestimonial.
I can't remember what show hewas being interviewed on, it was
like a news channel and hetalked about how he decided to
be like a drug, like a verywealthy and successful, like
drug dealer yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I saw a clip of like the section of that.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I'm sure he just also pretty much used a lot
of those connections, notbecause he did it like a very
clean drug dealing way right,you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
He lived down in south america and he, like he
took basically his like cCIA-ish training and then how to
build relationships, buildnetworks, and then yeah, and he—
Moved stuff around.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
He also like did it through businesses?
Right, a lot of it was throughbusinesses, not through like a
crap load of cartel stuff, youknow Mm-hmm.
So I'm sure he was in contactalready with people in
industries who could help him,you know, get the freight going
and get the candy manufacturinggoing and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Gosh, those are yummy and even like, even if he's not
using the same people.
It's the same thing selling abaggie full of sweets and a
baggie full of powders.
From a business perspective,it's the same, pretty much the
same model get the, get theproduct to the customer, the

(03:31):
logistics behind it.
Now one of them you don't haveto worry about.
You know product sells itselfgoing to jail.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
That's the thing about like food and if it like
if the drugs are good, they sellthemselves.
If the If the food is good, itsells itself.
You just have to figure out thelogistics of actually shipping
it.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Or convince people that it's good too.
That's the thing too.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
You don't have to convince a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Most people will just put anything in their mouth,
though I feel like Right, right,but being like I'm not a gummy
bear connoisseur yeah, neitheram I, but they are proclaimed
the greatest in the world or thebest ones ever.
Yeah, and when I put in mymouth, I agree, just because

(04:14):
I've been told that you know.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
So, like, hey man, this is the good stuff, here's
the good stuff, all right I'llkeep that in mind.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Just like like.
It's like like you got like afreshman in a dorm room and
they're like dude, this is thegood stuff.
Yeah, and it's, you know, justsome freaking fireball.
Yeah, you know whatever.
Like oh my god, that's like.
That's like yeah, dude, this istop shelf, this is like the
cream of the crop.
They're like oh, yeah, man forsure.
So anyways, I don't know, butthat's the.

(04:37):
I think I think when you tellpeople who don't know, then they
believe it.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
But yeah, so we were talking about Sean Ryan and
Gummy Bears and we're talkingabout a guy who blew himself up
in a Tesla truck.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, so they kind of go together.
This week, matt Livelsberger isthe former Green Beret that uh,
quote, unquote, uh, accordingto a lot of the narrative,
apparently took his own lifewith the desert Eagle right

(05:18):
after pulling into the you knowtrump tower um, what is that
valet spot?
Um, and then detonated thesefireworks to draw attention to
this memo uh, which reallywasn't really a memo, I guess it
was just a briefing actually.

(05:40):
Um, and this briefing email hesent out to quite a few people,
sending out to sean ryan, andthey talked about it.
But anyways, the the questionnow is one is anything this guy
said in his briefing true?
uh because he talked about howthe drones are uh gravitic, uh

(06:02):
anti-gravitic technology thatthe chinese have and that
america also has and now chineseflexing that they have it which
would also be known to thelayman as a spaceship but like
an alien but like a craft ableto hover, it doesn't take any
rocket fuel and it doesn't takeany rocket fuel and it doesn't
take any fuel.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
It just zips around, which I would.
I am interested to see how thatkind of plays out narratively
wise, I think the more importantthing actually that he accused
was these war crimes thatoccurred in Syria, of a drone

(06:46):
strike from the US governmentthat killed over 100 women and
children who were working insideof a drug manufacturing
warehouse, and the US, afterfinding out the casualty rate,
apparently covered it up, and acouple of generals and such that
this Green Beret was undercommand of and he was attached
to this operation, just wentalong with covering up.

(07:07):
Un, united Nations went alongwith covering up, and, uh, he's,
he feels real bad about it andwants to blow the whistle on it
and um, the question, though, isis one any of this true?
And two, is he still alive?
Because, one, the video cameradoesn't show any self-deleting

(07:33):
while the vehicle's outside ofthe trump tower.
So the question is then okay,did he self-delete himself while
driving there and then somehowhad a?
You know, there's quite a fewways to set up explosives.
I've been reading a lot throughspecial forces uh, handbooks

(07:53):
about to set how to set up,build up, build ieds and stuff,
and how to set up, like, um,unconventional timers for
explosives and um.
So there's a lot of ways hecould have done it right where,
like when it comes to stop um,there could have been like a
momentum charge or somethinglike that to set off the
fireworks.
But anyways, a lot of it lookslike um one.

(08:14):
He wasn't doing thisintentionally to hurt people.
You know, the fireworks are allloaded up in a vehicle like
this and if he's a green berethe should know how to make a
vehicle born ied, and so itdefinitely seems more and more
as things are coming out thatthis was done as a stunt to draw
attention.
He also said that he hadintentionally designed this vb

(08:35):
ied because he was using it as away of keeping the feds away
from him, because he believedthey were following him on his
way to get to mexico to crossthe border.
Now, another thing that I'm justlike not sure about is I don't
think that's very legitimate,because this came out on the

(08:56):
sean ryan show, and where didsean ryan primarily operate?
Mexico and latin america forthe cia.
So it's kind of one of thosethings of like.
Why would he go to mexico?
Mexico's got some of the mostlike deeply seated cia
informants and cells, so it'skind of one of those things of
like.
I don't really think it'd bewise to go there and once you

(09:20):
cross there, then you might likesicario like the movie sicario
style like they want to you overthere.
Maybe it's like potentially um,there's also stuff that came out
, apparently that there wasrecently a genetic test for him
and his son and it wasn'tmatched so he might have gone.
You know some pretty upsetting,earth-shattering news, I guess.
Also, there was apparentlyrecently an affair that came out

(09:41):
about his wife or girlfriendwhoever she is was having an
affair on him.
There's just a lot of likethings that could be like very
high stress inducing fracture,like things that can make
someone crack, let alone someonewho's been in super high stress
situations, someone who'scovered in guilt and feels
guilty, and about things canmake a man do some pretty crazy

(10:05):
stuff.
Um, because like we, like we,we have people who do crazy
stuff all the time.
And like the louisiana umdriver of the that, what do you?
What do you call him?
I mean, he's a terrorist, buthe wasn't a mass shooter,
because I don't think heactually shot anyone I think he
got it.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, I mean, it's just a terrorist attack, I guess
.
Do we have a name for thesetypes of vehicular, you know?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
yeah, assault people.
Yeah, um, mass vehicularkilling, mass vehicular killer
anyways.
Um, that guy was pretty, alsobonkers and crazy, and I don't
think there's anything toindicate that that guy had a
recent thing in his life fromwhat we know, like I know his
brothers come forward and spokenabout it and I know other

(10:52):
people have, but, like a lot ofpeople no one came forward with.
Like, yeah, he just had thispretty trauma inducing thing,
like the man just is a dude whocame back from war and probably
felt some empathy for his enemywhich is always one of the
number one issues of war andthen became radicalized and, you

(11:17):
know, decided it was, you know,up to him to bring justice onto
america for what amer has doneoverseas you know stuff like
that and that guy didn't, youknow, recently have a wife
cheating on him.
He didn't just find out his son,it wasn't his, you know.
So it's one of those thingslike you have two cases of like,
it doesn't take much toprobably break someone like this

(11:37):
to a point where the stress canstart sounding like the only
reasonable thing to do issomething drastic.
That said, I know I'm rambling,but hear me out, pat, here's my
real kind of my theory.
I think all these, I think allof this stuff occurred to them
and I am.
You know it's unfortunate, butthe likelihood that our us

(12:00):
government did cover upsomething like that in syria is
pretty high.
And I think the whole trumptower, the email, the picking a
tesla, the, everything down fromlike literally fireworks and a
gun, and the whatever else hecould have planned because he
the reason people think he'salive is because his phone

(12:21):
number, uh, the code for thesignal app that he, that, like
when you're on signal, you getlike a special numeric code, um,
that is, uh, essentially keyedand encrypted um, and you have
to manually elect through acouple options to change that
code.
And it changed after he wasdead, which would be very hard

(12:45):
for someone to do if they didn'thave his phone on hand.
And even then it's hard to dobecause you have to put in the
pen and then things like that.
You have to get past through acouple of walls, and so that's
why people think he might bealive, because his encryption
code changed after time of deathapparently.
And people think, oh, what ifhe, you know, just grabbed a

(13:05):
body from the morgue?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
he set the elon car on auto drive yeah, with the
body in the seat.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
And here's the thing, bro, he was a zulu 18, which
that doesn't really matter.
The call sign all you need toknow is like, that's someone
who's got some pretty big uh,authority, like they get to.
They get to call on some peoplefor things, and I'm sure it
wouldn't be that difficult forhim to grease the palms to get a
dental record to match that ofsome joe schmo that he just

(13:34):
copped out of a morgue or knewhe was going to cop out of a
morgue, right, like, hey, takethese dental records, say that
they're mine, copy them, becausethat's how they identified the
body as his.
They did.
And that's also the weird thingis they said the DNA of the
body doesn't match his son's,right.
So it's hard to say if it'seven his body in there.
But anyways, I think all of itmight have been done as a

(13:57):
complete stunt to try to make asmuch noise as possible, to try
to make the government answer tothe American people.
Did this war crime occur?
Were?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
we involved?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Were we responsible?
Did we cover it up?
And I honestly think I'd do thesame thing, like if I was in
his shoes, right, if I was atthat breaking point, I would be
like, and I was like riddledwith that kind of guilt, I could
see myself being like man, noone's gonna give two rats ass if

(14:28):
I just do this and go scream ona street, and I can't do it in
a way that's gonna hurt people,you know, or kill anyone.
So I'll just say all thebuzzwords gravure technology,
china, aliens, you know,whatever, right, and I don't.
That's that's where I seethat's the best I can try to
make sense out of it, like youcan.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
You know, as you were saying, you can, you can see
how you could.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, you could get to that point of like, yeah,
desperation I can 100 put myselfin those shoes and think like I
have to go balls to the wall ifanyone's gonna take this
seriously and listen to me.
It is crazy, though, how closein proximity he was to us.
Like he, he's out of ColoradoSprings and like I know people
who like knew him, like theyweren't buddies, right, but like

(15:10):
I know people who were likeyeah, like seen that guy like
every week for like the last 10years or so.
You know what I mean.
Like just because they went inthe same social circles and I
just think that's.
You know, Colorado Springs issuch a military hub, but it's
just one of those things thatfeels really, really weird, and
so I kind of have a vestedinterest just to see how it

(15:31):
shakes out.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
But anyways, before I say any more, your thoughts
yeah, no, I think that there's.
It's getting a lot of attentionfrom a couple different angles.
The stuff he put in his emailthat he sent out and I guess,
for those of you who may notknow, basically he sent an email

(16:00):
out to it seemed like a similaremail to a lot of different
people, to multiple people, orinfluencers or social media
people who thought might pick itup.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I think he also sent it to the FBI, like he
self-ratted.
The FBI is who validated thatthe email was out there.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
That's true, because there was a lot of conjecture
around if this email was evenreal and the FBI said it is, it
was from him.
Yeah, because there was a lotof conjecture around if this
email was even real and the FBIsaid it is, it was from him.
And basically, you know, a guywho saw the email come through
to him took it out on the, youknow, on the, took it to the
Sean Ryan show and they did likea kind of emergency podcast

(16:39):
where they blasted out the email, put the information on there,
talk about what happened out theemail, put the information on
there, talk about what happenedand um, the um, the kind of
different things to look at areyeah, obviously the big claim
about um, alien type, you know,uh, weaponry of you know world
war three shows like stand downright.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
between China and US on these like crazy super
weapons, and then the next onebeing at war crimes, and then
you know the, this other piecebeing, you know, did he?
Is he alive or not?
Right?
And so I think that I'd be likeare the?
Are anti or the graviticpropulsion devices real?

(17:27):
Whatever, I'm like a 90% to 95%.
No, there's a little part of mybrain that's like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I will say, as someone who's worked on DOD
servers and migrated, you know,and naval data, right, I've not
seen any of those.
Uh, you know throughdepartments with their
four-letter acronyms in themilitary, that's just like ag,

(17:59):
you know, anti-gravitic vehicledatabase agv like ag, av, no,
whatever agvd.
There we go, um, you know, it'sjust like now.
Of course, yeah, would I would.
I know no, because as my I workwith a guy who was, uh, he's

(18:20):
ranger, um, for most of hiscareer and he was even pretty up
there with some top secretclearances on on the teams and
he's a very humble guy, but hewas like, of course you wouldn't
know and of course I wouldn'tknow.
Only two people know.
One of them was him, right, andit's like that's the
explanation.
Right, you know, that's thereasoning yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
and so I think you know I'd say there's stuff,
there's weapons out there thatnot everybody gets to know about
, not everybody gets known.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
But the you know.
And so then the next piece ofwar crimes.
I could 50-50 as far as like,true or false, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
It's just as likely to be false as it is true.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
But like yeah, it's just like.
Unfortunately, the US has madequite a few war crimes, right,
yeah, and uh, so it's like, andin war.
And then, yeah, like in war iswar, and so war crimes happen,
um, not excusing them, but it'swhat happens.
And then the uh, and if he'salive or not, you know, I think

(19:22):
that I don't think he's alive,you think he's dead.
I think he's dead now, nowthat's what they want you, yeah,
now here's, I would say.
The fun part of my brain doesthink is that he's jason bourne.
Exactly, it is like okay, sothere's lots of argument on the.
The comment feeds right nowaround um people saying you

(19:43):
don't know how a tesla works.
Works, you couldn't just put abody in there and it drive
itself somewhere.
These different things, howmany of these?

Speaker 1 (19:50):
people put a dead body in their Tesla.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Exactly, I would say that's true, and also I don't
know what somebody could orcouldn't do to make that thing.
Basically, it's sensing if youhave your hands on the wheel or
not, whatever different things.
But um the uh, I I think it'spossible, but not plausible that

(20:16):
yeah, there could have been aswitcheroo sent over there.
He, so he.
He picked a car that coulddrive itself.
He picked a car that coulddrive itself.
He picked a car that wouldcontain could contain a pretty
large blast.
Didn't really build that big ofan explosive device or
dangerous device.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
If he wanted to hurt people, he'd just throw a full
fertilizer.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
There were seven people injured, but I haven't.
I don't know what the extent ofthose injuries are Now and,
granted, me and my kids couldhave been walking out front at
that moment too, and it couldhave just been, if you're
standing right next to it and Idon't know like, were they all
standing right next to it andthey're fine, or were they like
40 feet away and they gotwhacked by a little bit of

(20:57):
something in the arm and gotinjured Right so.
I don't know the extent I waslooking at.
I was trying to look up theextent of the injuries but I
couldn't find it just now.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I just think if his intention was to freaking cause
harm.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, the point being , I think that even there's all
sorts of people out there, amiddle schooler with a handgun
who hurts a lot more people thansomebody who's highly trained
in hurting people.
Highly trained in hurtingpeople, yeah Right.
And so I think that um there'sum some validity to his you know
saying, or to the to theargument being you know, it
wasn't intent, it wasn't to hurtpeople, um, but so, um, also,

(21:38):
how effective is his um stuntgoing to be?
I don't know either.
Um stunt going to be?
I don't know either you know,because in one more week from
now, let's see what the newcycle is on to, or you know who
gives a crap about it or not?
Um, and then there's theclassic thing where, as um, it's

(22:01):
almost like, um, any goodthriller novel about a, a
special ops guy, or any goodmovie about special ops guy,
who's you know.
Now he's found himself, youknow, on the other side of what
he was working for and whathappens after the fact?
what happens to you know,whatever any of those characters
, they get the first thing, thefirst word that gets pulled out

(22:22):
on them PTSD, yeah.
And then they dig up stuff intheir family life.
You know he had a kid?
Yeah, he found out his kidwasn't his.
And that's the other thingabout the DNA piece being.
Some people are saying the DNAdoesn't match his kid.
But I don't know if they'rechecking that body's DNA or if
they were cross-referencing his.
I mean, he's in the military,there's a record of his dna.

(22:48):
So I don't know if they'rethey're saying, hey, like there
was a dna test done, a paternaltest, he's not the father, or if
they're also saying this, thedead guy in this car is not the
father of that kid.
So it could be one way or theother.
But the um dude with ptsd findsout his kid isn't his um and um
, you know, has been to been towar, seen these things, you know
now.
So like kind of painting thepicture of a person who is now,

(23:12):
uh, you know, gone, insane.
They've broken, they've crackedand I do think.
And then they also talked abouthow he's been on.
He was put on a lot of meds anda couple other things too, and
so one all that could be true,and the dude snapped and you
know, believes inanti-gravitational devices and

(23:34):
then went and made a statement.
Also, the media is good atpainting the picture you want to
see, good at painting thepicture you want to see, and so
everybody could easily writethis guy off as just a kook guy
who broke, and I don't reallysit on one side or the other of
what it might be but I justthink it's all possible, I agree

(23:58):
.
I agree.
And so we'll see.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I err on the side of Occam's, razoram's razor.
Do you know what that is?
I say quite frequently topeople and I think sometimes
that just makes people think I'mjust an asshole.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, it's just like it's just a just a thing have
you ever heard of occam's razor?
I have okay, you know what itis.
I do do, but I can't explain it.
That's true, you know what Imean.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I don't know why it's called the razor Right.
I think it's the analogy ofshaving and the idea of that.
You know you could haveliterally just a sharp blade to
shave with, or you could have 20blades on a, you know, like a

(24:47):
bendable head, and you know alot of uh shaving cream and you
know all that, that whole kitright.
Um, now, that might just be afar side comment.
I saw that was making fun ofoccam's razor right.
Have you?
Are you looking at the far sidecomment comic?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
no, I'm not.
I was gonna look up the.
Uh, what google says is thething, but the.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
The idea is that the simplest solution is usually the
right answer, right um andoccam's or and, like a lot of
people apply, like okay, notjust solution, but the simplest
explanation, the simplestreasoning and like I think
that's.
You know, we can look at thedrones in new jersey.
You ever?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
You watch much of those videos, yet yeah, it's
like your smartphone, for onedoesn't show you what you're
actually seeing.
Everybody's smartphone isactually enhancing the image
you're seeing in the moment, sothings can look crazy.
It's a lot of airplanes in thearea.
It's airplanes and there's alot of people with drones.
For sure there's children withdrones.

(25:45):
Was this pre or post Christmas?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
This is leading up to .

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Christmas and some post Christmas.
I was wondering if it was postChristmas.
It's like, well, every kid justgot a new drone.
But either way, I mean I thinkI said this last time we talked
about it I could strap a funnylooking light to my little Mavic
right now, and we could gooutside and mess with the
tweakers down the road.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I think the big thing is I see so much footage.
I'm like you know, literallypeople are like look at this,
this drone is the size of a busflying over our house and it's
got lights in the shape of a V,like it looks like a bus because
it's a low.
It's a plane, low flying to gotouchdown somewhere at like

(26:30):
probably newark or somethingright, and it's just one of
those things where I'm likewhat's the most simplest likely
reasoning here?
It's a plane, and it's just oneof those things where, like,
what's the most simplest likelyreasoning for what this guy did?
It's probably the same one aswhy the guy put an ISIS flag on

(26:51):
the back of a picket truck andcommitted an act of terror and
drove into a crowd of people andkilled them.
Unfortunately, it's a damagedperson who is mentally unwell,
and that's probably the mostlikely thing.
Anyways, for sure.
Who is mentally unwell, andthat's probably the most likely
thing.
Um, anyways for sure.

(27:11):
Uh, there's also, though, on theto be honest and like just to
give validity to counterarguments, there is the occam's
razor fallacy, which is just thereasoning of oftentimes, the
simplest solution is actuallywrong, it's incorrect, it will
not solve the problem, and theidea of like, how do you get
across the grapple?
Just like, build a bridge.

(27:32):
Well, how complex is the bridge?
What does it need to get?
Like carried over?
Right, you could if you want toget over the gap.
Like, the simplest solution islikely a bridge of some form or
going around, but the complexityof the tasks there and the
different variables of how itcan be done and depending on
like what the gap is right.

(27:53):
So like, yeah, could you lay alog over it?
Maybe might be one of thethings you got to get a car over
it.
Okay, so now you do.
Now you need to lay a couple of.
You know, I mean, it's one ofthose things where, like, it's
just a fallacy because thesimplest solution could still
end up remain being like only afew degrees away from complexity
of the next solution, the nextsolution, the next solution
right yeah, and why do that?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
build a bridge when you have a anti-gravity
propulsion?

Speaker 1 (28:20):
just it is anti-gravity over.
Just just fly right over thatanti-gravitic yeah that's
another thing I heard gravitic.
I'm like, is gravitic a word?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
yeah he's saying, yeah, it's like that's in the
email, yeah, I know it's like,is that a like a denomination,
like gravitic?
Everything I see just saysanti-gravity on everything else,
anti-gravity propulsion.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
But of caused by or powered by gravity.
All right, oxford just addedthat to the dictionary, just
kidding.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yep, and on here it says Occam's razor is the idea.
Is shaving away unnecessaryassumptions when comparing two
theories.
Great, which would be all theseother what ifs?
And crazy things like all right, let's get rid of all that
silliness and just be like, well, it probably happened, bro, but

(29:11):
that's not as entertaining man.
No, it's not but it's like allright, bro got a lot of tbis,
had a kid thought it was his, itwasn't.
He's had issues, struggled withmoral dilemma of war for a long
time, took his skills and usethem a certain way, you know, or
whatever.
But yes, the occam's razor, theuh, the origin of things to me
is interesting, dude, I lovereading the origins to things

(29:33):
uh-huh like.
Here's one More like weird.
This is also more like languageplay too.
But pumpernickel bread.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Oh, I hate this because you actually told me
this like three years ago.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Did I tell you this?
I don't think I did, because Ijust learned it.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I'm pretty sure you just told me this like a year
ago.
You just forgot since then.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Oh my goodness.
But I think it's hilariousbecause I'm like a sixth grader.
But it's from.
It's a germanic origin.
The first word, pumper uh,means meaning to flatulate or
flatulence, so fart, farting.
And the next part, nickel um,coming from uh nicholas, which,

(30:16):
uh this is also interestingabout Santa I was going to come
back around to it in a second,but it's Nicholas in Germanic
dialects was associated withdemons or goblins, so
pumpernickel bread is fartgoblin bread.
That's hilarious.
It's a fart goblin becausethey're like when you eat this
bread, you know you got a littlefart goblin in you.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
The damn Germans.
They must be stopped.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Think about that Just over there.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
David stuff.
They're like fart nickel.
This is fart demon bread.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
And then maybe someone about old Santa Claus,
old Saint Nick, saint Goblin.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I don't think Saint Nicholas originates from Germany
, though I guess that's true.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm wondering, why does Nicholas you know?
Why was that a?
Maybe it's a different word,but referring to the name here,
I'm just like I will say likewith Santa, there's always like,
also a dark side, like any likeSanta stories or movies.
There's always like this otherpiece of like you got the
Krampus version.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
And these other, like you know, whatever these other
things going on, Nicolas.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Cage, demon, cage, yep.
So watch out for that.
Caged Goblin.
Yeah, watch out for that, that,that fart goblin.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I just like.
Uh, one thing I really like isseeing the origin of expressions
, and Google used to do thisthing where you could see like
most search terms over time andstuff.
You could see like when a wordwas first searched on google.
I don't know if they still doit, but it used to be.
It was pretty sick because youcould see like google would be.
Like the origin of this wordappearing in google searches was

(31:48):
the year 2007 and it's likebefore that.
There's actually no in likeindication of this word or
phrase existing in the Englishlanguage, and I just think
that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, because they can track in real time when a
word like that catches on and,like colloquialisms, different
sayings like how'd that get backin the day, how'd that get all
the way around?
Usually it it'd be likesomething yeah like some
something in the newspaper orwhatever it's got to get by
horse or buggy, and then thatguy hears some guy say it take a

(32:25):
pretty long time, you know, butum, it's kind of funny like you
could have like a presidentialslogan and like, by the time it
gets to like a good amount ofyour constituents, you've
already either won or lost theelection the back, yeah, back
then like, make america greatagain could take literally, you
know, a year to travel acrossthe us in the 1800s, yep.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
And then by the time it gets to the people who are
like, all right, well, we'llcast our ballots and send our
representative two weeks towashington.
That guy likes like my wagonwheel broke.
Yeah, we're not making it, youknow.
Oh, the president already waselected, you know, I mean no for
sure.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh, my goodness, the um.
We'll see if anything elsecomes to play for this guy.
I think honestly he's justgoing to leave the news cycle.
It's going to just go away andwe will see.
But you brought up something.
I haven't seen these headlines.
The fire yeah, little thingspop up about a fire in LA and I

(33:31):
hadn't looked into it until westarted talking Before we were
recording.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
To live and die in LA Great movie with Willem Dafoe,
by the way.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I don't know if I haven't seen that one.
I need to watch that one Oldschool.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
It's like Willem Dafoe and he looks like he's
like 20.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Maybe 19.
Platoon Dafoe, younger.
Wow, like you, look at him init.
He was so hot bro.
He was such a stud.
I think he got smaller with age.
He shrunk Cause he looks tallerin like movies when he was a

(34:08):
younger guy.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yes, he just shrunk down tiny, but the LA is on fire
.
Like these maps make it looklike the uh la is on fire.
Like these maps look like makeit look like the whole thing's
on fire.
And I hadn't looked into that,um, and I just seen like little
clips and stuff, but, um, I mean, pulling up these maps and
looking here, I mean we'relooking at the smoke from the

(34:32):
fire and it's almost as long asthe baja of like, like
California, or of the Baja ofMexico coming down, like it is
crazy, and all these images.
It looks like doomsday, itlooks like Armageddon, um, and
when you zoom in on these firemaps, they're burning right on
top of a lot of streets andlooks like neighborhoods.

(34:54):
Um, it's bad, dude, highway oneis just shut down, the one
which, like, oh my god, I'vedriven it's the it's post not
post.
It's apocalyptic for la rightnow because of the things that
are coming out of this and on anormal good day, that highway is
a car to car, bumper to bumper,hours and hours and hours long

(35:18):
nightmare to get where you'regoing, um, and so the fact they
have it just straight shut downfor what looks like about just
like 10 miles straight, butthrough this real main area
where lots of people travel, itis.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Well, the car, it's shut down and people abandoned
their cars and left and ran away.
Just started running away whenthe fire was getting closer and
now the fire department sent meto bulldoze those cars off the
road, which, I'll be honest, Iwas like, well, what is this guy
dealing with this bulldozer forthese cars?
Like it's not a good bulldozerfor these cars, like this is not

(35:56):
a good bulldozer.
He should get a like a skidsteer.
oh yeah and I was like, oh wait,they probably don't have like
snow plow steers like you wouldsee, to like actually plow a
road, right?
because like trains don't needthem and trucks don't need them
in california, you know what Imean.
Like they just don't get stuff,so it's so.
I was like, oh, I guess that ishow you're probably going to

(36:16):
have to move those cars.
But it was pretty brutal, likesome like 100, $200,000 cars,
you can see are just likegetting plowed away by this, uh,
this dude.
But it's also one of thosethings of like what are you
gonna just claim your car wastotaled?
I don't know it's.
It's weird to me, like I guessif you have insurance, it's not

(36:38):
that big of a deal.
I guess if you live in palisadecalifornia, maybe you're just
freaking made of money.
But dude, there is abillionaire there that they had
on the phone, I think it was cnnor fox, someone had this
billionaire who lives inpalisade.
uh, call in and he's like you.
Like I'm about to tell youthings that are going to blow
your mind.
All right, one, they've beensaying for years in the city,

(37:03):
over and over, requesting thatthe fire department of Los
Angeles County make an effort todo fire preventative measures
because of how out of controlthe dry brush and things like
that are, and they've beensaying like you need to do
control burns because all of uscan see like this is about to

(37:23):
blow up.
Instead, the fire department'sbudget was reduced by $18
million in 2024 and the new firedepartment chief her biggest
initiative and goal wasdiversity and inclusion, and
there's video after video of hertalking about and like the
department as a whole talkingabout, will be known globally as

(37:45):
the most diverse firedepartment, the safest fire
department for its employeessafe meaning that's not having
nothing to do with fires.
Yeah, exactly and it's crazy man, it's.
It's unreal man.
It's.
It's unreal Like what the kindof money and recruiting efforts
went into versus like what itcould have gone to and like
doing the job.
And I don't, I don't care.
I don't care at all If myfirefighter is they them and is

(38:14):
married to a trans man.
They just man that is pregnantwith these baby, I don't care, I
don't care if they have a wholefreaking head of rainbow colors
underneath their head.
Like pick me up, yeah, Drag myass out of the burning building.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, we don't care what you, as long as you're
yoked.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
As long as you're strong enough to freak it, as
long as you can strong enough tofrick it.
As long as you can drag thathose, brother them, sister Zay,
that's all I care about, dude,it's clear they're just not
hiring honestly competent people.
The mayor of LA guess where sheis currently Florida, Ghana.

(38:59):
She's on a vacation to Ghanaand using it as like.
Don't get me wrong.
If she's got like family orwhatever there, that's totally
fine.
You should be allowed.
But she should be hauling herass back here and I've heard
that she's denying that she'scoming back because she's on
like a cultural.
What is it?
It was like a ethnic cultural.

(39:19):
It was not a journey oranything like that, but she was
like there on like, kind of like, kind of political image terms.
Right, it's like, oh like.
I'm here to better understandthe ethnic culture and the
impact of like what we have onstuff there's also rumor that
the fire department of la thecounty gave a shitload of its

(39:41):
stuff away, like actual hardmaterial away, um, in assets to
ukraine, like they, oh my gosh.
And it's like what?
What fires are over there,homie, that you got to put out?
Yeah, don't get me wrong,there's bombs and stuff, but
have you seen Ukraine?
They're not facing a dry Kindlebox.
It's a swamp.

(40:03):
The fires don't spread inUkraine, really.
And then, lastly, dude, thisbillionaire.
These are all things thisbillionaire was talking about,
and one of the last things hesaid is the fire department
though he's thankful for them,who's out there trying to fight
it?
of course, because the firedepartment is out there trying
to stop it, but they're just soill-equipped and ill-trained and

(40:26):
ill-prepared, but he saidthey're going to fire hydrants
and opening them, and there's nowater in any fire hydrant In
the whole city.
They go, they're going firehydrant, fire hydrant, cranking
them open.
Nothing is coming out, nothing,oh like not even enough to wet
the pavement.
Bro, what does that say?

(40:46):
You live on a?
It's a house of cards.
It's a house of cards, man.
Like, get out of there.
Why are you spending millionsof dollars to live there?
Um, it's crazy, though, but Ijust showed you the pictures too
, my buddy sent me.
Those are from pictures,apparently from um, his
co-worker's apartment out of thela area, but it literally looks

(41:07):
like you know battle losangeles.
Looks like the alien spaceshipscrashed into the hillside, um,
but he's uh, my buddy's actuallyjust closing on a house out
here and he's moving out.
I'm like just in time to comehere with the rest of them,
right, bro, he is originallyfrom colorado, so I'm actually
happy for him to come back.
He's not like a californianbringing california stuff, um,

(41:30):
but it is one of those thingsthat is just like so sad to see
and, um, like people are losingyou know everything they've
worked their lives for up there,um, and it's sad because, like
you know, I'm not here to preachon a pulpit of like.
Well, vanity is vanity and ofcourse this stuff's fleeting and

(41:50):
you shouldn't spend your wholelife, you know, to like, work up
enough money to buy a house.
That is, like you know, uh,status, you know a symbol, right
, but at the same time it's likeit is their house and I'd be
devastated if my house wasburning down in a wildfire and
I'd be devastated if I found outlike my car was totaled and the

(42:10):
you know the insurance claimsare going to get freaking denied
.
Like you know, the insurers,like companies, are reviewing
frame by frame of that footageto figure out who left their
cars there to get rolled over.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yep and or like.
Are there grounds for aninsurance company to sue the
city for being ill-equipped todeal with their it's?
You know?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
mouth-to-mouth reasons, or mouth-to-mouth, you
know, like we wouldn't have topay out on this house insurance
if you had done preventativefire stuff.
Yeah yeah, that is crazy.
It's crazy.
I have good news for you.
Oh yeah, I think the housingbubble is starting to pop.
I just saw that my house isworth $25,000 less than what it

(42:52):
was up and worth in September.
Dang, In September it's droppedin value by $25,000.
That's crazy dude, that's a lot.
Now I mean it's like I'm sureit'll still be worth, you know,
probably twice its value rightnow, in 10 years.

(43:13):
Right, Right, I plan on owningit until then.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I'm not too worried about it.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
It's still worth more than I paid.
10 years, right.
Right, I plan on owning ituntil then.
I'm not too worried about it.
It's still worth more than Ipaid for it, right?
But it is one of those thingswhere, like I'm just seeing, I'm
like holy smokes, like that wasquick, like that started
leveling down.
So good news for people who arelooking to buy a house, I guess
.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
The bubble's coming down yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Apparently, the car bubble is also popping right now
.
That's what I, that's what elseI heard too.
Apparently it was like theworst year in car sales and
inventory movement since like 20, since like 2008, like it was
the lowest and it like has notat all remained sustainable
since like the 2020 buy, like alot of people bought cars in
2020 because they're all gettingtheir stimmies and unemployment

(43:58):
.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
So man, yeah, pretty bonkers, right.
Yeah, I'm looking at this.
It says that billy crystal,mandy moore and paris hilton
lost their homes.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
They'll probably be fine they're paris, I mean their
palisade home, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I heard for Billy Crystal actually.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
You don't think Billy Crystal's got like a second?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
No, I'm sure he does, but I'm like he's not on her
level of like.
I mean, you know, it's like Ilike that guy, yeah, me too.
But um 1100 structures haveburned and we'll see.
We'll see what they do, yeah,so with that, uh, I don't know
if the that's crazy the firehydrants have no water and they

(44:44):
got the ocean right there too,like now.
Granted that it's a, it's ainsane feat to get water from
one place to another and this isa huge area, but just still
like I don't know, I feel likeyou could have something,
something going.
Yeah, I don't know it's, it'shard, man.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Well in like you think, like california naval
bases, air force bases, you'dthink they'd be flying those
chinooks with the drop-offbuckets that's what I mean, you
know, just dropping seawaterover it, exactly, just, yeah,
get it on it.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Maybe they are, but man, and I feel bad for these
people.
And now I feel bad for myself,because I'm going to have to
listen to, you're going to haveto listen to them cry about it.
Well, no, I feel bad for what'shappening to individuals.
But I, just like now, I'm gonnahave to listen to people say
that it's like our fault becauseof, like, whatever it's you

(45:42):
know, a global war, a globalwarming, whatever the whole
thing you're like.
You know?
That's what I mean.
Yeah, they're gonna cry aboutclimate change.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Don't tell me I don't know, my house, my nine million
dollar mansion, burnt down tofires and it's like I don't
think that was climate change.
I think it was pretty, like youyourself, in your community,
said, if the fire department hadjust taken preventative
measures and did controlledburns.
You know what's something we doevery year in colorado
controlled burns.
You know what they do inwyoming every year controlled

(46:10):
burns.
You know what they do up incanada fire, forest fire,
capital of the world, controlledburns.
And if they, if we didn't, wewould have massive uncontrolled
wildfires in you know thedensely populated areas, just
like they're having right now.
Now, again, that's not in anyway to say like, don't feel bad
for them.
They don't, like you know, prayfor safety and things like that

(46:31):
.
But also I don't think like,don't let people use this as a
weapon to guilt you aboutsomething that you have no
control over yeah, this thing'sburning right on the coast.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
It's crazy.
Well, we'll see if they get itout.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
It just has to burn itself out it is bonkers, though
like I mean it, it could legithop, since there's no water in
Palisade To slow it down.
This thing could just continuehopping and start burning the
city of Los Angeles down.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Right.
The only thing that will stopit is when it gets to the
pavement.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, there's a lot of burnable things on the
pavement.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yep Wild.
Lots of people are going to beevacuating and we'll see what
happens Next there man.
Wild and I wonder.
Lots of people are going to beevacuating and we'll see what
happens next there man it's acrazy world, man, crazy things
it's pretty crazy are youexcited for our CQB class?

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I am, I'm very excited, I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I've been thinking about it.
You're going to be there right,you're going to be there, right
, think about what the You'regonna be there right?
I think so.
My wife is taking An impromptutrip To Paris.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Didn't you just Go to Paris, um, didn't you guys?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Just go to France.
We went to, we did a big familytrip To the south of France
Last summer yeah, so not, youknow, a year ago, over a year
ago that's just going there,which is which is pretty
recently but, um, uh, anyway, Idon't.
It's a, as I said, impromptutrip to old paris.
Uh, basically, the notre damejust got finished getting

(48:08):
reconstructed after their fire acouple years ago.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
That was sad and uh, that made me super sad.
They've got because that was afire, wasn't that started by
rioters?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I'm pretty sure that was a fire started by rioters in
france I'm not sure what causedthat one um, but the uh
basically, uh, our sister-in-law, who's a senior in high school,
and I think mother-in-law'sgoing, it's kind of like a
senior senior trip, girls tripum headed out there.
Um.
So, that being said, I thinkI'm still going to be at this.

(48:41):
The dates just might be closeum.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
They said it was most likely caused by a cigarette or
electrical I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Electrician up there smoking a cigarette?
Yeah, exactly, smoking a doobiein the top of the top of the
the no drama freaking quasimodoquasimodo was smoking a j up
there.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Bro, don't get me started again.
Yeah, I'm stoked, uh, becausewe got these dudes coming up
from.
I mean, let's look at, likejust what is the pedigree of the
10th Special Forces Group,because that feels sick, you
know, that feels pretty dope tohave those homies.

(49:25):
I think they've done somethings.
They're an Army Special ForcesGroup from the Airborne
Detachment.
From the airborne detachment.
I wonder if people just cringehear me say stuff like this,

(49:45):
because it's not a detachment.
The 10th Special Forces Group,airborne Headquarters and
Headquarters Company activated19th of May 1952.
They saw Fort Bragg, fort braggfor brag.
Oh my gosh, that's where this isa joke yeah, but that's just
where the two guys also spenttime, for brag is also like a

(50:08):
metropolis of its own, whereevery army man has spent a
little bit of time um unittransferred to fort devins,
massachusetts, and then, uh,between 1994 1995, moved to fort
carson, colorado, where it,which remains his current home
that's cool began training withunconventional warfare.

(50:28):
Oh, I'm gonna ask them how theydo their ieds.
You want to hear something cool, their iuds yeah, I'm just
kidding.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, how do you?
I've been reading this book.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I've been reading this book on the unconventional
warfare, which is actuallyprobably the most depressing
book I've ever read, becauseit's talking about essentially
how to build these explosivesand which targets to target.
And then it has, like ink drawnpictures of like just an ink
artist in the army and theydefinitely did pretty good.
But there's one where they'redrawing and it's just like see

(50:58):
how the soldiers coming in outof the church like put the bombs
outside of the church and I'mlike, holy fucking, oh my god,
that is just like, and I'm likeI get it like you're fighting
nazis, you understand theirroutine and you're doing
unconventional warfare behindenemy lines with, like the
French resistance.

(51:19):
But, dude, it's dark, likeyou're reading it and you're
like you got to be in adifferent mental head place to
like be actually thinkingthrough this.
But one of the cool ones.
I just think this is cool, right, but they say you get dried
rice or peas and you put them ina tube and then you have a

(51:44):
chemical vial that essentiallyis taped to a tube and you fill
the tube up with water, flip itdown and then, as the peas or
rice expands in the tube,absorbing the water, it'll
eventually tip the vial over andthen your chemical agent taped

(52:04):
to the tube will likely spillout and it's pretty much like
also make sure it's a chemicalagent that combusts with coming
into contact with water, and sothen it tips over, combust, it's
your ignition and it detonates.
And it's like talking aboutlike based on a typical like
tube size, and it gives you thelength of it of like piping or

(52:25):
whatever, and it's like how muchrice and like it'll buy you
like 30 minutes.
I was like this is fuckingcrazy dude.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, dude, it's unreal.
It feels like am I allowed tobe reading reading this?
I'd read it on the toilet.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
That's where I read it it's like the only place
where it's safe to read it.
But like I bought them for youknow they're not like controlled
information, they're alldeclassified um, but it's like
that one.
And then the booby traps one.
The booby traps one was like itmade me scared to get off the
toilet because I'm reading andthey were literally talking
about contact explosives thatare in the toilet uh what's not?

(53:04):
not the bowl, but the partbehind the toilet that stores
your water tank in the tank yeahit's like contact explosives in
the tank that once properweights applied to the seat and
it creates the connection.
And it creates the connection.
And then once the connectionsever, that's when they debt.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
And so you sit down, ripping through your, your spine
.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, dude.
So once you sit down you'refine, but once you stand up it's
over.
And uh, there's another onewhere they're talking about just
like doing it in like couchcushions.
I was like Holy, I'm not goingto be able to sit down for the
rest of the day.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
It's no wonder all these guys are paranoid.
They read this book and learnedhow to use it.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
That's what I'm saying.
You read this and you train onit and you read the manual front
and cover, and then, of course,these guys probably got to do
actual, real hands-on stuff, andthen it's just like okay.
And then you quit and you'relike am I, though, like allowed
to quit, am I allowed to be done?
They definitely have been in myhouse, without a doubt.

(54:00):
They come to my house once ayear.
I bet you know what I mean likeI don't know, it's spooky,
though it's really spooky.
It's funny too, because I talkto people who come over
frequently.
I'm like you, got you ever readany of those books?
And they're like no dude,that's scary.
I don't even want thatknowledge remotely close to my
brain because I don't want to bein trouble for knowing it.
I'm like I guess that makessense, but um, anyways.

(54:25):
10th, special forces,unconventional warfare.
Uh, they participated inhumanitarian missions on the
Congo, somalia, rwanda.
Uh, they trained in variouscomponents.
They trained various componentsof militaries for several
Middle Eastern countries,including Lebanon, jordan, yemen

(54:46):
, iran.
Um, yeah, so it looks liketheir primary tasks are
counterinsurgency, specialreconnaissance, counterterrorism
, information operations,counterproliferation of WMD Whoa
.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Hmm, I don't know how to do that, but I mean Go over
there and throw a stick at it,see if it blows up.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I think it's like the stuff that you see in every
like freaking high-end CIA JackRyan movie.
Right, it's the team of guysthat are just like no uniform,
no badges, and they just arelike.
These guys have nukes.
They're taking them to New York.
We have to stop them.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
The police will shoot us like we have no, friends,
but it's okay because it'll stopat one yeah no matter what, the
counter down will stop at oneyeah, it always does, thank god,
anyways at one.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, no matter what the counter down will stop at
one.
Yeah, it always got good atyour job, thank God anyways.
Their motto they oppress.
A liber to free the oppressed.
It's kind of sick just goingthrough here histories and stuff
.
They go back to the 1950s, butI'm just seeing what else is

(55:56):
they are.
Oh, wow, there's like there'sfour battalions.
That's cool.
So four battalions make up the10th Special Forces Group.
Each one is composed of threecompanies.
Oh, no, four companies.
Watch it, just be like they arealso known as Green Berets.

(56:20):
I'd be like oh, they're theGreen Ber, green berets.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Okay, and I'm just a dork um the uh says there's a
about 1700 of them just rockingand rolling.
And uh, yeah the well.

(56:43):
They are green berets are they.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
I mean right, I mean well, according to my boss, yeah
, I guess everyone's a greenberet now, because there was
actually like a.
They were back in the day Idon't know what back in the day
is, but early 2000s I think.
There was some hullabaloo oflike it's like not politically
correct to not let everyone beable to have a beret.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Only a couple guys get berets right, because
there's so much stuff in therewhere it's like, okay, this
guy's a ranger, but he'sactually not a ranger, because
he's not a tabbed ranger, likeall the like, all the different
things you're like.
Okay he did explain that to meand I already forgot but he did
explain the difference betweenthe scroll and the tab yeah, I
mean, it's like yeah, basicallynot take like from what I
understand and I haven't doneany of it, but, like you know,

(57:29):
if you're lots of guys, havethis, lots of guys are rangers
but, within the community, itnobody gives a crap about that
until you're tabbed ranger.
Yeah, so you've gone throughyep, all the other stuff and so,
like the um, there's a lot ofgreen berets.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Yeah, and so the uh and really no one cares about,
until you're like a real greenberet right, right, and so same
with, like, I think.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
But yeah, 10th group is uh, they are green berets, um
, but, like I've been saying,there's lots of different, um,
there's different, uh, oh theyare.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
You're 100, right, you know.
So I thought you're making thatup.
No, you're right they are.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
These are green berets yeah, so like they're
green berets, oh cool.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
All right, I guess we're cqb.
We're training with greenberets yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So now, I gave these guyspictures of our building.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I'm not using a toilet downstairs anymore, right
um, but the um yeah, so the youknow the, you know the sf green
braid guys and so, yeah, withinthere there's all sorts of
different you know, differentroles, different things they do.
You know um, but uh, it's cool.
Yeah, so we're gonna do some,uh, cqb training with some of
those guys.
And did you get your flux fixed?
I didn't, but I don't need itfixed for this that's true, you

(58:47):
don't.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Are you gonna bring it and just run flux with me?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
I could yeah, yeah, I could use that.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
That'd be good cool, we need to get it.
We need to get your flux fixed.
And then we also because I havemags for you.
I know I've just been holdingon to these mags I haven't even
shot through them just becauseI'm like these aren't mine these
are pets.
What mine's a 40 oh yeah, butyou can.
You know, it doesn't need to bea 40, you could just right, I

(59:16):
could convert it.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah, nine, yeah, but at that point I might just what
I might.
I might just get another gun toput in the flux why not just
sell that sig?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
yeah, and then with the nine one because the hard
thing.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
It's special because it's special because it was a
gift.
It was my my boys got it for me, for my uh, for for when I got
married, my all my guys got itfor me so it's special, um, but
I might just it is might get ridof it and get a special or one,
and I've converted it into it'sstill, you know, cause they
also got me a gun that couldpotentially go off at any moment

(59:48):
.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Yeah, you gotta.
I mean honestly, you shouldjust you should just say that
it's broken and then call SIG.
Be like hey, warranty this shit.
Yeah, Cause it's broken.
Yeah, I feel like it's going toblow up Because it's broken.
I feel like it's going to blowup.
They'll be like please, don'ttell anyone on your podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
We'll fix it it's not a bad idea.
There's about five more pistolsI need to buy, just because One
to stick in the flux, I'llbring it for that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Sick, I will say.
These dudes are like dudes I'vebeen training with are pretty
squared away, but their skilllevel is varying quite a bit and
I think it'll vary to like.
I think we'll see some dudeswho are pretty squared away show
up for training and it'll betaken as serious, and then we'll
see some dudes who are likejust as fresh as you and I on it
you know, I think I'm gonna,I'm gonna charge up some of the

(01:00:40):
little bead blasters.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's great.
I think we should get more ofthem.
Well, I think we should getmore and get one AR and the
aggressor can have, cause theyhave the.
What are they called?
It's a nerf gun, you know, gelpod blaster.
It's like we need to get twomore of those and get one.
The ARs are automatic.

(01:01:02):
Oh yeah, and so then?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Where do you buy them reputably, though?
Cause I see them all over andI'm like that looks like total
piece of junk that's just goingto break as soon as, like you, I
just did as a toy store.
Oh, there's like you find themat the store, though.
I see them all over on likeWish and Timu.
Oh yeah, and I'm like I'm notspending money on that Just for
it to show up broken in pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
No, like go down to Shields and they got.
Like you can get kitted out atthe old Shields With some gel
blasters.
How much are they?

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
I think it's like 30 bucks for two pistols and like
the AR is like 60 It'll probablybe like 20 guys, but I imagine
at most it'll be like five dudesat a time running through.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
So it'd kind of be sick if we had, like we could
have, and even if like when it'sobviously like, if guys think
it's goofy, I don't care,because also, after you do the
runs with all your cool guns,then we'll have way more fun
running it with the stuff thatshoots out the end of it,
exactly.
So, anyways, I was thinkingabout getting just a couple more

(01:02:03):
of those so we could have them,and you can get 5 000 rounds
for like a dollar.
That's great.
So talk about bang for yourbuck.
On the old gel blaster yeah,but no, I'm looking forward to
it and I was thinking aboutdifferent ways to do you, do you
set up the wood that we can setup as target stands, mm-hmm?

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Because we should just set up some targets like
just get those fabricated, sothat way we can have a couple
ready to go so they can just setthem up where they want them to
be, mm-hmm, and we can runthrough drills.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I've got some out back like ready to go.
Cool, we're pretty close to itBecause.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I have a ton of IPSC targets.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Mm-hmm IPSC targets.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
You know what I mean.
But yeah, I'm stoked man.
I mean because, honestly, youknow here's the crazy thing it's
free.
It's free because of our group.
How often do you get to trainwith homies like that, who have
had over a thousand hours ofthat probably?
Drilled into them training-wiseand you get to learn from the

(01:03:02):
best.
So I think that's pretty sick,um, and you and I can
essentially just come and run itwhenever we want afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
I think we should run it with our, with our studio
guns studio guns.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Yeah, that is a good idea.
That's a good idea.
I'm also there's a guy that isin this training group idea I'm
also.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
There's a guy that is in this training group.
It just goes by pro um andshort for prophylactic.
Yeah, because he can't get it,can't quite he, uh, this dude is
like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
He doesn't say much.
I think he's in.
I think I haven't met him yetbut.
I think he's a little bit of anolder guy.
I think he hurt himself doingsomething and so it keeps him
from being able to do a lot ofsuper duper, high speed action
hero stuff.
But he takes pistol comps superserious and he's training for

(01:03:49):
the samurai.
Uh, uh, what is this?
I can't remember.
It's ipsych or another agency,but it's um, I'm gonna pull it
up here in the messages he sentme.
Um, but it's coming to uhcolorado and he wants me to come
with him.
Uh, modern samurai project, andso they're like touring all

(01:04:12):
throughout america to just youknow, essentially go and you
find like the best shootersacross america and they're just
like a whole year long tour andit's already started.
But they're coming to Coloradoin September and they're going
to be right here next to us andhe's like come with me, we'll
train together and you know youcan come run the Samurai project

(01:04:33):
as well and test your skills,because hopefully by then you'll
be, you know, a million milesbetter, which I'm stoked about,
because this dude is like youknow a million miles better,
which I'm stoked about, becausethis dude is like he can do a
bill drill like sub two seconds.
That's like from, like from theholster concealed.
I think he said his best billdrill time was something like
one point four eight and I'mlike that's unreal, bro, Like

(01:05:03):
are you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I'm trying to imagine how you get a one point for
bill drill from concealed.
That's why he's called theprophylactic.
It's his finger, so fast he'sstealing all the women from the
rest of us, bro I don't think Iknow what a prophylactic is, a
condom birth control oh, justany form of.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I thought it was for something like pooping, uh, no
no, I've been taking all this,all this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
We're taking all this prophylactic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
It has not helped my I haven't shit in a week and my
nipples hurt real bad yeah, um,no, dude, I uh, no, he's quick
and I'm just like in my brain,I'm like the only way I can
think about it is that he'sreaching and jumping backwards.
And he's shooting the gun likefrom concealed carry appendix.

(01:05:55):
You know that's a joke, right,yeah, but it is one of those
things where I'm just like Ijust have no idea how you could
get six rounds on target, youknow 15 yards.
In that kind of time it's fast,super fast.
But he I mean he said his likebest time or something like that
that he can like consistentlydo is like one round from

(01:06:16):
concealed at 15 yards on steel.
He says he could get it at like0.8 pretty consistently.
I'm like that's blink of an eye.
Yeah, I mean, that is, that'sbeyond reaction time.
You know what I mean?
Like that's like a third, not athird, sense.
We have that a sixth sense oflike being able to see a

(01:06:39):
millisecond ahead of you andknow exactly when the timer is
going to be you know what I meanit's just, it's so strange to
me, but he did give me somethingthat was pretty good.
I'm sure it's like not foranyone who shoots competitively.
I'm sure this isn't, like youknow, brain breaking advice.
But he said with the shot timeryou have to start thinking that

(01:07:00):
it's a beep, a B-E-E-P, and youstart drawing on B.
Oh yeah, not on P.
Everyone starts on P Right Beep.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
And then it's on it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
You start at B and I'm like that's a good way to
think about it.
I didn't think about it at alland he was like, do you know how
long that beep is?
I'm like I don't, it's like asecond.
I was like in my head justlistening, he's like
three-tenths of a second.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Like that's fast dude .
Mm-hmm, you start on the B,shaving three-tenths off.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Yeah, and for those guys that's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
A lot Stoked about all that stuff.
That'll be fun.
Anything else, Pat, that youkind of want to talk about?
How's the nuts feeling the?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
nuts are back in action.
I mean, they're.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Didn't think about how that was going to sound.
Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Which, actually, if they were fully back in action.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
If they were back in action, you'd be getting your
money back.
No kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
No, we're fully recovered.
I'll say every once in a whilethere is like, if I sit down,
kind of funny, there's stillsome things healing probably.
But, you know, two, three weeksout from it.
Yeah you know.
But no good to go, not walkingwith a swagger anymore, good

(01:08:26):
good, good, yes, sir I think, uh, after we, uh, after this
training, we'll have to reportback on how it goes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yeah, we have footage .
I actually finished that videofrom our rifle range day for you
to take a peek at.
Oh nice, it turned out reallygood.
Um, but I do think we shouldlike run some footage and stuff
so that way we can blur it outand I'll make it look sick too,
like I'll add muzzle flash.
Oh yeah, you know, just looklike we're doing live fire in
our freaking warehouse house.
For sure idea.
But anyways, yeah, and whoknows?

(01:09:02):
I mean, I know a lot of thoseguys that I train with want to
come out and talk, and I givethem a hard time about it too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
I tease them like why ?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
why do you want to be on a podcast?
So bad, please, please, have meon.
It'd be so funny like justkidding.
I love them.
They're all good dudes, um, allright.
Well, I think that's prettymuch it for us this week.
Uh, you know, it's been apretty wild week and I'm just
kind of nose down on thegrindstone and kind of focusing

(01:09:32):
on trying to make it as boringas possible, because the world's
pretty crazy right now.
Um, and let's hope, let's pray,you know, have some faith that
the transition to trump uh inhis second term will be, uh,
free of drama.
I know there's a lot of peoplewho are afraid of the worst
right now and expecting theworst, and I'm just optimistic.

(01:09:55):
I'm optimistic especially, youknow, kamala certified the
election results the other day,which is and that was drama free
.
So I'm optimistic.
The one thing that is weird Idid hear that they're staging a
ton of medical for the day andlike they haven't really usually

(01:10:16):
done that before, but they'restaging a ton of ambulances.
I'd say like I understand thatyeah like if it was one side and
I was like and they're like.
Someone was like did you hearthat they're not staging any
medical for the inauguration?
That's because they wanteveryone who's going to get hurt
to die.
And be, like, okay, inverse.

(01:10:38):
Now they're like saying like,did you hear?
They're staging an insaneamount of ambulance and medics
on standby.
It's because they plan to hurta lot of people.
I'm like pick it, pick one side, you can't have both and eat it
.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Yeah, I think it's overabundance of caution.
And then and yeah, I mean thedude's been Someone tried to
assassinate him twice, threetimes and even more.
Things stopped.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Than we may or may not know the dude's been.
Someone tried to assassinatehim twice, three times.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
And even more things stopped than we may or may not
know.
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
It's within reason to say that somebody could be a
little kooky, did you see theofficial report that came out
about the guy who tried to shoothim on the golf course?
The Secret Service agent missedfive shots at under five feet
no, I didn't know that they shotat him yeah, dude, the secret
service agent.
The whole report got released.

(01:11:28):
He was walking along the fenceline.
Sees the dude laying five feetaway from him with the gun, drew
his sidearm, fired five shots.
All five missed.
Not one struck him at five feet, bro Charlie Cox from Grantham.
He did a video on it.
He's like I'm going to try tomiss.

(01:11:50):
I'm going to point in thedirection.
We got to see how hard it is tomiss five shots.
They did one where they werejust blind and they still hit
the target.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Yeah, they put a blindfold on it too.
Yeah, I mean that's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
That's not good.
That doesn't bode well for asecret service, bro.
No Like, that's a hugeembarrassment.
Go back to working on checkfraud.
Yeah, atf drills like easierthan that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I mean harder than that, you know.
Yeah, anyways, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Anyways, that's crazy .
I didn't know that you shouldwatch the video.
It's funny.
Everyone should go watch thatvideo.
It's a really funny video.
They do some goofy trick shots,all right.
Well, hey, ken, thanks forjoining us.
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Pat, any sign off?

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
till next time.