The Mick & Pat Show - When Systems Fail - The Mick & Pat Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you heard about Angry Cops and his whistleblow
of the essentially cover-up ofabusive children in the Buffalo,
New York school districts?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
No, I have not.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Do you know who Angry Cops is?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
No, is he a YouTuber?
He?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
is.
I'm pretty sure you know orseen videos of him, but like his
, his name is richard high um,is he?
a cop, he is a cop but he's alsoa reservist in the army, okay,
and there's been a lot ofyoutube videos of him actually
like a couple of them as a coppulling people over or making
arrests in new york, and acouple of him like, literally in

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uniform, coming home from workand like detaining a dude in his
military uniform until policecan arrive to arrest him and he
just like he's just a dude who'shonestly like your classic, I
would say.
You know guy in the militarybecomes a cop, has a pretty
successful career and also,though doesn't like, uh, doesn't

(01:08):
hold, hold any anything back,right so he's definitely had
quite a few what seems to belike uh retributive
investigations, uh, compared tomost officers, and it's likely
because he just is pretty bluntand he's also got quite a bit of

(01:28):
a prolific online presence.
But he's finally come out andhe says I got to talk about it
because things aren't happeningand the city needs to be held
accountable, but he's in aspecial victims unit.
He's a detective for thespecial victims unit which, for
those that know special victimsunit, is primarily crimes

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against children or women.
Almost predominantly, specialvictims units are crimes against
children or women, the honestlylevel of, I would say, stakes
and publicity and uh items likethat around a lot of those

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crimes and those crimes beingvictims, who usually are often
not getting justice right.
Like special victims units arefocused on crimes involving
sexual assault and non-sexualcrimes that require very highly
specialist handling.
So, you might need an actualchild therapist on the team to

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talk to the children to makethem feel comfortable to
actually say what happened.
And then you now need someonewho's good with child forensics
and can get an accurate swabbingof DNA and stuff.
Anyways, all I said.
He's a cop who tries to protectkids, right, and his whole
motivation for being a cop rightnow and being a detective is

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staying up for kids.
And he found out I don't knowhow recently, but he blew the
whistle that Buffalo PublicSchool district officials are
intentionally obstructing policeinvestigations into child
abductions, child abuse, childsexual assaults, attempted

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kidnappings, and have failed toact in their like law law
enforcement, like sorry, not lawenforcement legal requirement
to be mandatory reporters.
And so that's essentially likeif a teacher is made aware that
a child's being abused, or ateacher's made aware that a
child's been sexually assaultedby another kid or someone at

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home or whatever, or if a kidhas been kidnapped or someone
attempted to kid, kidnap themand they don't report it, that
teacher could go to jail.
Right, mandatory reporters arelike in their job, they are
required to report these thingsto law enforcement and they are
not reporting it out of fear of,uh, punishment from the school

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because the school doesn't wantthe perspective and publicity of
.
You know, this isn't a safeplace for kids, or the school
district, right?
And so the police have put insubpoenas and FOIAs and the
school is straight up just likenot assisting with it and like
just refusing to cooperate andnot answering phone calls, calls

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, and the police department'snot doing anything.
Because the school districtintendants and the board are
like essentially greasing thepolice, weird wheels to like,
hey, just help us, sweep thisunder the rug.
And parents, dude, parents, arenot being told when they go to
pick up their kid and like, hey,why'd my kid piss himself.
The teachers are like, oh, wedon't know, even though the kid
just told the teachers at atlunch today a man attempted to

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kidnap me and I got away.
And another student isverifying what this child's
saying.
Right, you know like it's notlike unvetted claims right in
the school just being told like.
Or the staff at the school isbeing told like do not tell the
parents about this at all, likekeep, keep stuff quiet.
And so uh and uh, they've all.

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And then they've also used thebuffalo police department school
resource officers to writereports that had their influence
over those officers.
So they're using, like they'reputting pressure on, those
officers that are schoolresource officers to kind of
help cover things up and obscureinformation from the special
victims unit and they're denyingallegations of course.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Surprisingly yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
No kidding, right, but isn't, isn't that nuts man?
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Speaker 2 (05:45):
Unsubscribe podcast, if anyone's interested in this.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
You can watch the um, uh, what's it called?
Unsubscribed, unsubscribedpodcast.
They just had this like episodewhere it's pretty much just
like 30 minutes of uh, uh, angrycops, richard high explaining
the situation and, dude, hecries a bunch in it like he's
pretty fucked up, like he's.
You can tell he's he's having ahard time understanding and
like processing like what'sgoing on with these kids and

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that he's pretty much powerlessto do anything about it.
And he's actually now suing thecity because he's essentially
getting like career punished.
And they, he believes likeessentially they're telling him
he's not qualified to bepromoted, because he's, of
course, trying to get promotedso he can freaking also squash

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his stuff.
And they're like no, you're not, you, you don't, you can't be
promoted.
And they're opening up a bunchof different like new
investigations on him.
People are like yeah, he wasdrunk when he like stole weed
from me and it's like what?
Like it seems like kind ofconvenient you know reportings
of like officer misconduct allof a sudden when he's you know

(06:47):
whistleblown about the schooland the police being corrupt,
but pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Right it is, it is crazy and I mean, yeah, the you
know yet to be seen on.
It's hard to you know pull andprove evidence on stuff.
But you know, I think it'shonestly.
I'm just looking at pictures oflike these people and on the
school board who are talking andlike the school board meetings

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I'm like it just looks like abunch of people who are
classically incapable schoolboard members.
I mean, the more and more I seeyou know like and I'm sure
there's lots of good schoolboard members out there too,
well-intended also but the moreand more I see, like you know,

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videos come out of like you knowthese meetings where, like
parents are coming and likebringing concerns and like the
school board members just likesitting there, just like kind of
like stone-faced and like juststraight, like uh, not engaging
at all that person who's comingup there and they're just like
either you know one forcing themto leave or be thrown out of

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the meeting or just like orrunning to arrest or getting
into a the loop of.
They're just like a verbal loopof, like you know, just denying
or saying you know, or likechanging the subject and like,
just like you know, some ofthese people hold these
positions.
You know that are importantpositions and you know,

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unfortunately, lots of thesetypes of positions.
The people who should be inthose roles are just
uninterested in dealing with itor being in it.
They got other things andbetter things to do and they're
more successful, moreintelligent, more motivated.
And it's like you know,typically, and I feel like in

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government, especially smallgovernment, the people who get
in the spots are the ones whoand I feel like in government,
especially small government, thepeople who get in the spots are
the ones who are just willingto like basically their best
qualities.
They kind of kind of show up forwork and oh yeah, and just like
they have a pulse and just grayman it to the top or complain
it to the top, or you know, orthey suck, and so then they,

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they basically get rid of themin that position by just moving
them up the ladder and like,because then it's the type of
person who will sue.
You can't fire them becausethey'll sue you because of
whatever marginalized thing theywant to say they are, and then
they're going to make it to thetop.
That way it's like.
And so I don't know, I haven'tpersonally engaged with like a

(09:29):
lot of this and obviously, like,those videos I'm seeing are the
ones that like I'm sure there'slots of school board meetings
out there that are just superboring and people squared away
getting it done, you knowwhatever.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
No, parents are there because they don't care,
because everything's fine, right, and so the ones.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I'm seeing is definitely of a select subject
group, but it's like I mean justlooking at these.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
A couple of things on that Before we lose track,
because I want to keep youfocused on two things.
One, the Peter principle is, Ithink, the effect of a lot of
school boards and working forcity or local governments, which
is, uh, in a hierarchy this isby dr lawrence j peter from 1969
uh, in a hierarchy, everyemployee tends to rise to their

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level of incompetence.
Yeah, and so it is that thingof, like you, you or you will be
promoted up until you areincompetent and cannot get past
the challenges in front of youand there, and then you won't
get pat, then you won't bepromoted any further, you won't
rise up any further, which Ithink we often see in government
quite a bit.
It's like you're wondering howin the hell do they find some of

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these people at the DMV?
It's like, well, they're therebecause that is their level of
incompetence.
They can't go past that, right,their level of incompetence,
they can't go past that right.
Um, and then, uh, the otherthing, like with this too, um,
right, is I find it crazy thatwe would let someone govern, say

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, our local education system.
A school board for local schooldistrict, uh, that has no
experience, or almost noexperience being the people
facilitating the education whichis teachers, like most school
boards.
I don't know if you noticedthat most school boards do not
allow like cities do not allowteachers to be on the school

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board.
Isn't that insane?
Think about it.
Yeah, like that.
That's mind-boggling to me.
Man, like you know who gets tomake the laws People who work in
law enforcement that haveworked their way up to like
district attorney level, right,and they get to decide, like you
know, enforcing laws and likewhich ones are discretional or

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non-discretional, and they alsousually work their way up from
attorney general to governor orsenator, right and helping sign
laws in office.
It's mind-boggling to me thatmost school districts ban
teachers from being on the board, like the school board.
That is unreal.
Like who else would be betterfit to help kind of decide the

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direction of that than thepeople who are working with the
students day in and day out,right, which you know one?
You could say you're like, well, there's a lot of teachers
nowadays that I don't think aregood teachers.
And you're like, yeah, well,you know, you kind of would hope
that the school board ran byteachers who are aware of the
quality of other teachers wouldeliminate those teachers.

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You know what I mean, but Idon't know, I find that crazy.
It's like imagine there's aboard of engineering for a city
and oh yeah, by the way, ifyou're, you know, a civil
engineer that works for the city, you're not allowed to be on
the board that's on.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
That would make no sense, you know yeah, no, I
agree, and the it's funny I was.
I was actually just looking upour local like school board
stuff, just realizing how much Idon't know about stuff here.
Um, and the two words just popup so often the word board and

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committee.
Yeah, I hate the word committee.
Anything that has wordcommittee.
I'm like I'm uninterested in it.
I'm like this is a place wherenothing gets done.
I don't know.
It's just I think you know, godbless the people who are in it
for the right reasons and reallylike work hard at stuff.

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Like work hard at stuff, but,oh man, just like meetings and
agendas, board policies,committees, 2025 committees,
levy questions these are allthings that all these things are
things that I have zero likethey.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
They instantly make me be like I don't want to ever
I'm not going to pay taxesanymore, or just it's like I
don't want to personally have todo any of these things that
these other people have to do so, but that's the issue man is
that no one wants to be involvedin these I stand by, and that's
just so I'm responsible yeah,the people that are running
these things are the worstpeople to be running them,
because the people who havevested interests aren't making

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time to run it, which is I havea buddy who just got uh onto uh
a big city here in colorado.
It's a city that you know, youand I would be impressed with,
but he just got onto their uhfinance committee oh wow, like
for the city, and he's got onthere specifically he's ron
swanson-ing them.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, like he's like this, is it like?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
bring it down.
I'm really proud of him, dude,and uh, I think, like you know,
that's kind of honestly what weshould all be doing, like we're
so sick of stuff and like localgovernment I think is so
powerful that, like you shouldget involved in your local
government so that way you canlike fix the crap that's going
on and kind of seed out thecesspool sorry, weed out the

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cesspool yeah, definitely, andthe I had a.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
My dad taught me a good lesson about this through
his action once, which was andpeople always complain about.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
He said it like as he lit the molotov cocktail and
burnt down city hall.
He's like remember.
You remember little pat you canmake a difference no, the uh.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
You know people complain about their hoa and
stuff and it's full of karensand full of freaking crazy
people and blah.
It's just like it's horrible.
Yeah, so he was sick and tiredof it.
All this.
I mean, it's just pettybullshit and just hoa stuff and
just like just ridiculous andlike nothing's getting done and
fees are going up and nothing'sgetting done.
it's just petty bullshit, HOAstuff, hoa stuff, oh my gosh,
just ridiculous.
Nothing's getting done and feesare going up and nothing's
getting done.
It's just all just ridiculous.

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So he went down there and wasjust a part of the meetings for
a while and he, just, he justwas there until he became the
president.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
No way, yeah, dude.
And then he like gutted it.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, from the inside out.
He came in there and he justmade the like, the changes he
wanted to see happen.
He got in there and made thechanges, got it to happen and,
like you know, uh, had to dealwith all the, the people and,
and you realize too, at thatposition you can't keep
everybody happy either.
Like, yeah, even you're like,all right, I'm gonna get in here
and make it right, but it'slike can't get everybody happy.
But at least like, if you wantto see change and you're

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complaining about it, well, goto the meetings, become the
president and change it.
You know it's like, yeah, andit was a good lesson you know to
see, see, you know that playout, because you know, yeah,
yeah, you're complaining aboutstuff never changes anything.
And so that's what you got to do, because the the other methods

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aren't an option.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
My plan is to become governor of Colorado and fix our
our stupid gun laws, um, butanyways.
Uh, I was really encouragedcause I made a joke recently
that I was gonna run for a mayorof our small little neck of the
woods yeah, and a couple dudeswere like dude, I'd vote for you
.
In a heartbeat I was like, okay,yeah, but no like for real.

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And they're like no dude.
I would because, like, I'd votefor you over, like someone who
has no like pulse on like issuesthat are important to me and I
was was like oh, okay, All right.
Well, maybe I will do that.
Yeah, maybe I'll put BillieJean through that hell, and you
know, be like all right, honeywe gotta go do a photo shoot.
I know you're going to stressabout your makeup and hair for

(17:17):
like four hours as we go forthis photo shoot that only like
three people are going to see,but it's for my mayor campaign.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I like it.
I mean hey, I think you shoulddo it, I'll make for mayor.
Dude, make for mayor man.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Here's the issue If I win and then I announce it here
, people are going to know whowe are, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's going to be wild yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Oh my gosh Dude.
Uh, one thing I do really wantto do, though the more I've been
looking into it, is, uh, uh,expand on the marvin hemeyer
case.
Oh, I guess, before we get tothat, do you have any other
thoughts on this, like wholeschool district stuff and how
you'd feel like what would youdo, pat?
You sure, here's the thing alot of people I feel like have
the perspective of you from thispodcast.

(18:05):
You're pretty like, walk with abig stick and don't say a bunch
of words.
You know what I mean.
Be like a quiet guy.
I think we'd hear about it inthe news if you found out
someone had tried to kidnap yourlittle Pat's little Patricia in
the school, legit starteddeleting video evidence, cover

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up and didn't want to tell youlike what would you do, man?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
oh yeah, I mean, that's where I mean I would I, I
feel like I'd get, I feel likeI'd get called by your wife I
feel like mason would be likecan you come get him I?
Have.
I have put some safeguards inmy life of different things yeah
so that you know.
Be like micro example would belike if you take your kid to the

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doctor and they had a brokenbone.
yeah, this and this, thishappened to here's.
I'll go through a story, quickstory.
That happened to one of my, uh,an acquaintance.
Uh, their new baby broke theirleg but like, like, they got it
out of the crib, they don't knowwhat happened.
They don't know what happened.
Take it to the doctor.
Doctor says your baby has abroken leg and the doctor said

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the only way this can happen isfrom abuse.
That's insane.
And these two people, I meanlike hand to God innocent, I
mean it's like they're like whatand so they went into a huge
CPS thing.

(19:34):
I mean it turned into a hugemonths and months long thing,
all this stuff.
So anyways, for instance, in acase like that, where, as you'd
be expected, your emotions wouldbe very heightened and you'd
want to, you know, you want toprotect, it's like you got to
have safeguards in your life oryou just got to have a buddy you
can text or whatever hey, comepick me up.

(19:56):
We got to leave.
You know we got to get out ofhere and, unfortunately,
fortunately, fortunately andunfortunately, you can't handle
stuff like it's 1824.
In a case like this, similar tothe story I just told of my
father going during the HOA.
Becoming the president, it'slike it would become my life's

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mission to tear down thatestablishment alright.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, it looks like I'm the new gym teacher.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Exactly, yeah, exactly Through like, just like
the through the through theright ways, and you can be very
shrewd, you can be very you can,you know, not take not physical
violence, but you can takeviolent action you know of, of,
you know, um, as far as, likeyou're, you can be very shrewd
and you can maneuver.
You can call lawyers, you cancall your buddies with money.

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You can do so many things andput so much pressure on people
through a legal means that youcan ruin their life.
And now that can be hard to doand there's also, like, there's,
implications for that too.
You're not just allowed to dothat for no reason, but you know
it's flying off the handle andtaking, like you know, going
good old boy, matters into yourown hands.

(21:09):
It's going to be a very shortterm solution.
It's not actually going to havethe outcome you want, and so I
would, I would take an approachthat would be.
It would be I'd put a lot ofpressure and and-physical pain
in these people's life untilthey relented, they resigned and

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or came clean, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I'd want it to be something that my son or
daughter shares on the internetone day about like.
Let me tell you the story ofhow my parents gutted this city
school system from the insidewhen they found out that the
school was covering up childabuse.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, it's called the legal vendetta.
It's like you're like, you staywithin the.
We have a system.
It's the same thing like youcould get into a conversation of
like tax code or whatever.
Yeah, hey, some big dogs outthere.
They don't pay no taxes andthey're not breaking any rules.
Yeah, Right.
There is a structure that's putin place and you have to operate

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within that structure.
This isn't, you know, not amoral conversation.
This is a hey, what's thestructure that's been put in
place and how can you workwithin that?
And it's been based off ofmorals to a point.
But like, yeah, the um, I wouldbe very upset and I would, I

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would take action and uh, and Ithink generally, like it's, it's
like 99.99% of the time,staying within the lines, you
can actually do a lot moredamage to to your enemy.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of the word it's like.
You know, it's essentially likeit, rather than just saying
like nonviolent violence, butit's essentially.

(23:19):
There's a term for it and it'soften used those lines of like
you're essentially, you doeverything above the board, but
each of your actions is slowlychipping away at the like
institution or integrityinfrastructure of the
institution and, uh, there'snothing you've done illegal and

(23:41):
there's nothing you've done thatis physically harm.
So but, at the end of the day,like your actions or non actions
, will essentially help cripplethis institution, and I can't
remember what it's called, but Iwant to say compliance violence
.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
But if this gets your blood going, you might have to
read Count of Monte Cristo.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
He's in jail.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
He's in jail briefly and for a very long time, yeah
yeah, just like Andy Dufresne.
And the uh.
Who's that again?
Shawshank, oh, yep, yep, okay,yep, yep the uh.
But hey, the Count of MonteCristo, he, he gets it on in
this manner Really, oh yeah,non-compliant.
I mean compliance, violence,whatever.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Like the Count of Monte Cristo, he gets it on in
this manner, reallynon-compliant.
I mean compliance violence yeah, the legal vendetta.
You know he gets after ithonestly though this is kind of
unrelated because you know we'retalking about, like you know,
seeking justice through acceptedmeans that are not physically

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violent, which which should becalled the justice system.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
But since we don't actually think that's like maybe
like a great structure, likeyou gotta, you gotta have a more
broader, I don't know here's mything man bring back duels,
bring back duels, dude you gotta, I'm so down.
Okay, you gotta read the countof monte cristo dude this is
your.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Bring back duels like like here's the thing
Everyone's happy to run theirmouths, Everyone's happy to be
like yeah, well, I'll call thepolice for assault.
And everyone uses the wordassault all the time.
When I poke my finger on yourchest, yeah, or whatever.
And they run around and theyyell he's hitting me.
They try to get a mob of peopleto then kill this person.
I'm just like bring back duels,like because then then then it

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all goes out the way.
It's like all right.
If you're gonna falsely accuseme of hitting you or assaulting
you because we're having adisagreement, why don't we just
why not go all the way, dog?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
yeah, let's go all the way.
Uh, honor, true honor, has beenlost in our culture big time,
and it's uh I think that'ssomething that we struggle with
here and then, when we hearthese types time and it's a I
think that's that's somethingthat we struggle with here and
then, when we hear these typesof stories, it's like that's why
, you know, it gets to the pointwhere it's like wanting to
bring back the duel, you know,because it's like and I'll say
this I haven't, I don't thinkthere's anyone I've met in my

(25:57):
life that I would challenge to aduel.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I don't think there's anyone yet in my life that I've
been so angry and felt sowronged by, you know, through
libel and stuff like that.
There's been people who I feellike have totally hurt my
reputation with their lies atone point or another, but not to
the point where I'm like, allright, let's freaking settle
this.
But I will say like I think ifduels existed, everyone would

(26:24):
have a little bit more likemaybe I shouldn't lie about this
and, like you know, they likethey'd hold their tongue a
little bit more consequence fortheir actions.
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean becauseif they're like, you can't prove
that I'm lying, the court'sstacked against you.
Be like, fine, I challenge youto a duel.
Yeah, if you speak truth,except, surely god fate in the

(26:45):
universe will take your side,right, I'll be dead with a
grease bullet through my abdomen.
But if you're lying, yeahanyways.
Hey, I say that like I guessthat's why I want to clarify.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
There's no one I want to kill, but I do think duels
should come back.
I think there'd be.
There'd be like there could be.
Think duels should come back.
I think there'd be like therecould be.
If duels came back, there'd belike less road rage kills For
sure.
You know what I mean, becauseyou'd have a what's the quote
about polite society.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
An armed society is a polite society.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
There's that one, but the other one was I'm mixing
that up with basically like, isthat one?
But the other one was I'mmixing that up with basically
like something along the linesof like, if, like, uncivilized,
violent people are like muchmore like gentlemanly than
gentlemen, it's like it's thislike better.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Are you talking about the warrior gardener one?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
not the warrior gardener no, it's like I'll have
to find it it but the basicquote is that you know, if
there's risk of, you know, lossof life, you're going to be a
lot more respectful and politeand honoring of each other
versus, like you know, noconsequence for your actions.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I will say you know, you definitely see for sure in
Road to Rage videos where a dudegets out waving his hands
around, walking up with his bator his gun to the car and you
know for sure that guy has notthought one second about
repercussions.
But if we were in a societywhere people could just duel on
the median and then get back intheir car and leave afterwards,

(28:21):
a lot of people would stay intheir cars, they would have kept
driving and they'd say I'msorry.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Good day, sir, Good day to you.
You cut someone off.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
And then they get freaked out and they walk up to
your car and cut you off andyou're stuck in dead.
Stop traffic.
And they're like you're a damnidiot, Get the fuck out of the
car.
You're like I will, sir, Stepover to.
I'm like oh wait shit.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
No man, it's good, I'll just get in my car Carry on
Daddy though.
Yep, it's, it's I.
I have like so much to say, Ican't even say any of it.
I keep looking at this pictureOf this school board and just

(29:04):
thinking I bet a lot of and justthinking I bet a lot of them
don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I bet a lot of them wouldn't be willing to duel.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
No honor, no honor, no, you know.
And so you know.
And then back to the piece ofyou know and, and I don't, I
haven't looked into it, I don'tknow anything about, like you
know the, the, you knowallegations from you know, uh,
angry cops on the school board,but I'd say the I wouldn't be

(29:33):
surprised if he's 100% right.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I think there is because there's other
whistleblowers from the schoolthat are corroborating.
Someone in the tech departmentof one of these high schools
made a copy of the video for oneof the attempted kidnappings
and copied it and saved itbefore the school had them

(30:00):
delete it and they submittedthat video evidence to the
attorney general forinvestigation.
So like there's other people inthe school district that are
like kind of helping him makethe whistleblowing case, you
know what I mean.
But yeah, no, I get what you'resaying.
Like it's one of those thingsof like it it's likely true, but

(30:21):
like until, like, court andstuff is all settled out, like
it's hard to say one way or theother.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Oh, I found it robert e howard.
I don't know who that is, youshould probably look him up.
But the uh, civilized men aremore discourteous than savages
because they know they can beimpolite without having their
skull split as a general thing.
Yes, you know, yes, that'sthat's true, has you heard that

(30:45):
one before?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
no, but I've, I get the essence of the concept.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I think the concept and essence of that is very much
.
You know the the like, uh,powerful men, like truly
powerful and great men like you,can't be great if you don't
have the capacity for violence.
Right, it's a classic, likepsychology, of a argument from
Jordan B Peterson, right, haveyou heard this?

(31:13):
I think so.
Okay, right, but yeah, forpeople who don't know it's, it's
essentially like in order to begreat, requires you to have the
capacity to be not great.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
And what?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
would be not great is if you, as a man, went
silverback grill and startedripping people's limbs off and
beating them with them.
What would be not great wouldbe, you know, if you had the
capacity to do insane harm anddid it.
To do insane harm and did it.
So if you don't have thecapacity to do a lot of harm but

(31:48):
, essentially, are living withthis concept of like well, no
one else does either, and so wecan say and do whatever we want
without any repercussions orconsequences then you're not a
great individual.
You're actually not a goodindividual, if anything.
You are sometimes not evil, butthat doesn't mean you're
actually not a good individual.
Like, if anything.
You are sometimes not evil, butthat doesn't mean you're good.
In order to be like a trulygood and great person, you need

(32:11):
to have the capacity to actuallyhurt and harm and the ability
to not hurt and harm when thatis an option.
You know it's essentially likethe concept of like.
What makes a good husband?
Well, you could say a lot ofthings, but one of the things
that makes a good husband is ahusband who never lays his hand
on his wife.
Right and well, if you're a.

(32:32):
If you're a dude who, like this, is going to tighten up some
britches, but if you're a dudewho doesn't have the capacity to
harm your wife cause you'rekind of a wuss, yeah then like
you and your bad husband.
You're a bad husband.
You don't have the.
You don't like you there.
You're not great because ifyou're like, well, I never hit
my wife, and it's like well, ofcourse you haven't your wife

(32:54):
would break you in half you knowwhat I mean and like it's one
of those things like thatdoesn't, that isn't something
counted towards your greatnessof like being a good husband,
right?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
yeah, yeah, just because it's a yeah, the uh, you
got to have the capability andyou, I'd say you're not.
It's not like you have anyrestraint you know, exactly.
It's not like you have any.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, it's the um which is also like I'm not here
to say, like I'm just walkingaround constantly like, oh my
god, I just want to beat her,but I won't like you know what I
mean.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Like, yeah, like the example of like maybe the n cell
christian kid in in high schoolwho's like I'm, I live a pure
life like bro.
You couldn't get any if youtried, but yeah, you're just
desperate.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
You've had no option, you have no example, or you've
had, you've had no, no, you knowno chance for it.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Um, but yeah, the uh.
It's something there's somedefinitely said about that the
capability for whatever it is,and then the wisdom, discipline
and self-control to you know,have the reins on yeah it's.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's also like in the same philosophy, I think the
same field of philosophy of likewhat is truly a better life?
To be born good and remain goodand live as a good being, a
morally right being and you wereborn that way or to be born
evil, into evilness and throughdiscipline and self-control,

(34:25):
overcome your evil ways andeventually become good, like
what is a better life worthliving and you know what is more
righteous, right.
And it's like well, of course,that's easy, like it's the
second one for sure right butthat's the one that, like we,
would never pick for ourselvesyeah, and it's hard to like.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
You also wouldn't like pick it for your kids?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, I want my kids to be good, born into a good
thing and always only experienceit.
You know yeah exactly that's.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's like, that's like the classic, like uh, like
uh, when you get people getasked to tell their like
testimony at like church orsomething, and it's like uh,
it's funny, like you, always,it's the it was on the guy who
was like you know, he was ahell's angel, yeah, you know,
and uh, there was lots ofcocaine and like things you know

(35:16):
, and then like uh, like youknow, a road to Damascus moment.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Versus.
Like you know, like scales fellfrom my eyes, yeah, exactly.
They're like well, I guess Iwas just always a Christian.
I know it's like hey, thattestimony's good too.
That's a praise Jesus for thelife you have.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
It is funny, like I've been asked to like share my
testimony, so like there wassome rather large things it was
like 300, 400 plus people andthey're like hey, give them a
share of your testimony.
And you're like, I'm not goingto do that, you need to find
somebody else.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
It's like you don't want me.
I'm proud of my testimony, butyou don't want it.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
You know what I mean, right?
Oh yeah, it's not what you'relooking for here.
It's not the sales pitch you'regoing for.
Come on, let's get, let's getsavvy.
Here, folks, we're winningsouls, but the um.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
I will say, though, I would take someone's honest
testimony of you know what I'vealways felt like Jesus was a
part of my life, and I've alwayslike you know, felt him in my
home I felt, you know the Holyspirit guiding my parents and
I'm thankful for that.
And I just want to take the nextstep with my own willingness to
declare I'm a follower of Jesusand like that's my testimony,

(36:30):
rather than people who get upthere and they're like they just
got to make they like they, youknow spend hours creating and
fabricating or like, like youreally want to know my deepest,
darkest stuff.
Sure, let's talk about it, butlet's get out the search history
.
What do you want to know?
Yeah, you don't want to know.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
You don't want to know it's not going to help,
okay, you know, but I do agreeactually, actually, something
that was actually really freeingand for me to like tell my
testimony to people was thatpoint.
There were, um, an older guy inmy life who I see is like just
very like strong, humble, wiseman and like a and a manly man.
I was like I want to be likethis guy.

(37:08):
When he talks about histestimony, he's like, oh, like
I've, just I've, you know.
He's like when did you become aChristian?
And he's almost like he waslike I, I don't know like thing
had just been.
He's like I couldn't reallytell you.
I could tell you when I reallystarted, like you know, started
certain key parts of my faithand my walk and things, but he's
like what he says.
He's like, oh, where are you?

(37:28):
He's like, oh, my mom raised mein the ways of the Lord.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
He's just like that's the thing, and he has plenty of
middle school and high school.
He was a hellion and had like,yeah, he did.
He has plenty of bad choices,whatever.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Has this guy been on the podcast?
Yeah, yeah, okay, it's one ofthose names up there.
That's what I figured.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
But also the piece of that being too.
I think that if you grow up inevangelical evangelical like
whatever, maybe like like crowdsthere is, I think that it's
like this thing where, likethey're, they really don't want

(38:13):
like a, a faith process to comeout.
What they want is you prayedthe prayer and now you're a
believer, like you know, likethis, like you know, like pretty
like you, if you've ever donelike street evangelism or done
like you know missions orwhatever you know, it's like hey
, here's the prayer, you know,you accept jesus as your lord
and savior and like now you'resaved, you know, and so we don't

(38:35):
.
And we and that gets emphasizeda lot and versus like um, and
I'd say also to like, in thatmoment it was a switch was
flipped and that's I've never, Inever went back to those old
ways and I've just been this wayever since.
And then that that, what thatunhealthy part about that is
that it lends people to go.

(38:55):
Well, I guess I, I did that, Iaccepted Jesus, but I it kind of
that didn't happen.
For me it's been a pretty likelong process or I've, or there's
been times in my life when I'velike like moved back this way
or the other, and and not thatyou shouldn't see fruit in your
life.
But I think that we've like umover time.

(39:17):
What happened recently is we'veput it into a an equation of,
just like you know, pray theprayer, soul saved, change
forever.
Versus like coming to faith.
Coming to faith doesn't have tobe, it could be in two seconds
with somebody who shares thegood news.
Coming to faith could also be avery long, drawn out, lifelong

(39:40):
process.
That's viewed through like youknow, yes, there's salvation and
there's also deeper.
That is like a sanctificationof your life throughout time.
So it's like the um.
I think that the overemphasis on, you know, praying that one
prayer versus exploring whatdoes a journey following where,
like jesus, didn't even say tohis like first disciples, like

(40:03):
all right, hey, like sign thepaper and you're good.
He was like what'd he say tothe first guys he went to?
He said come and see.
That's what he said.
He said come and see and then,through walking with him, they,
they found, each of them intheir own ways, found their life
with him and some of them noteven up until like the point of,
like the cross, right, yeah, togo like when, or like that last

(40:25):
last night before in the upperroom where they go oh, surely
you're the messiah, and so likethere wasn't even the guys who
actually walked with the dude,so anyways, um, yeah, this is a
little tangent there, but yeah,I think it's good yeah that I
think that, uh, there's a lotmore to be had around the
journey of coming to faithversus you know, there you have

(40:46):
the Paul.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Was it a brutal, dark testimony?
You know what I mean and Iguess you don't get it.
You don't.
What was it?
What do people talk about it?
When they say it Like you know,it's like not counting scars,
but it's like you know, I don'tknow.
It's basically equivalent LikeOoh, my sin's worse, so my
testimony is better.
Jesus redeemed me more, youknow, which.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I don't really believe that's like anyone's
intention, but I do think thatis a slope you know, people can
slip into and I think the way wetalk about it's led people to
that, whereas, like, I thinkmaybe the easiest way to bullet

(41:28):
it's going to be the peterversion or the paul version.
Yeah, you know the paul version, that's the.
He's killing people, he's alittle angel biker and he's on
an active mission against jesusuntil on his way to somewhere,
yeah, met in the road, blinded,you know, spoken to versus
peter's with jesus for threeyears and he's like oh, he's
like, you know, he's likehanging out with him.
And then jesus is like getbehind me, satan.
And he's like dang it.
Or he's like you're gonna denyme again, man, he's like dang it
, you know.
He's like hey, pick up thatsword and follow me.

(41:49):
Then he uses the sword andJesus is like what are you doing
?
Don't use the sword.
And Peter's like what he's likeI don't get it, you know, and
then, whatever it is, and theneven after, like jesus's
ascension, you have, uh,similarly like peter, like he's
only hanging out with like thecircumcised dudes or whatever,
like, and like it's just like hehad a.

(42:12):
That's two very differentversions of people you know or
like and their story and they'recoming to faith, and I think
one of those probably should belike spoken about or addressed
more so that people canunderstand that, because when,
um, yeah, I think it lendsitself to really be hard for
others, especially like peoplewho are like.

(42:34):
I talked to a guy the other dayand he was like man, I just
want to believe but I just likedon't think I can, or whatever.
It's like you can kind of, youcan just like kind of start.
Yeah, you know, like just startwalking down versus like you
don't have to just make the makethe change like, hey, just say
I want to start following, Iwant to start figuring out, and
that will lead you to crazyplaces.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, I've always.
I've always been a hugeadvocate of the like it's not
like.
Uh, you know, you don't have todrink this semi-truck trailer of
water down today you know, youstart, you start believing me
when I'm telling you there'swater in there and you start
having a cup of it.
And you know, as you go on, youknow you'll get more and more,

(43:22):
and I've kind of always viewedit that way.
Like I pretty much have alwaysjust challenged people Like,
yeah, man, but what if we justlike pray about it, like let's
just start with a prayer todayand let's just see how God works
through prayer, and if thatspurs your interest in more,
let's dig into it more.
You know, and I can't tell youhow many guys I've seen go from
like no interest at all or likeI can't even.

(43:44):
I can't even like wrap my headaround this and get grips with
it.
Oh, you know the how can thebible or god say homosexuality
is wrong?
I know homosexual, homosexualpeople that love each other.
How can the bible say the worldwas made in seven days?
That's, you know, ludicrous.
How can you know god be good ifhe told people to go and kill

(44:08):
everyone in this city?
Yeah, it's like hey, man, thoseare great questions.
Let's, though, if you actuallyhave any interest, like we can
debate and if you want to debate, happy to sit with you and talk
and debate, but if you have anactual interest in like seeing
and experiencing, then let'sfocus on like some baby steps
here and let's just start withlike what can we see for real in

(44:29):
your life today?
And then, once we get to thepoint where you're like all
right, now I need to make senseof the things I have a hard time
with rather than, oh, making acase against it.
Let's start tackling those oneat a time, and I've seen that
work through and through plentyof times.
Right, because if you juststart with like all right, well,

(44:50):
you know all those people in uhgosh, what was the city?
Um, that joshua marches aroundjericho?
Jericho, all those people injericho were evil sinners that
were sacrificing babies.
And you know monsters?
They were evil monsters to eachother.
Or Sodom and Gomorrah, you knowthere was, like it was

(45:10):
essentially just a city full ofmen raping and eating and
murdering other ones.
Back to the start of theconversation there and then like
, if you say that, though, thenlike people like that's not
going to do nothing for them,that.
And then like, if you say that,though, then like people like
that's not going to do nothingfor him, that's not moving the
needle an inch for him.
But if you're like, hey man,let's pray about you getting a
job.
Cause if someone's reallystressed this was one I just
remember working with this dudewas like I really need a job,

(45:32):
really bad.
I'm like, well, let's prayabout it.
He's really like, yeah, let'sjust pray to god, help you get a
job.
What job you want?
Like, uh, anything really atthis point.
Just, I need money.
Like all right, cool, prayedabout it next week he had a job.
All right, what's the nextthing we're gonna pray about?
And that worked out really wellyou know what I mean to get him

(45:52):
to the point where he was readyto then start grappling with
like actual, like, okay, if I'mgonna be a christ, what's it
mean, rather than just passiveprayers to God, right, right.
And so I thought that waspretty, pretty sick.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
No, it's good, and I think that that will be so, so
helpful for so many people.
Because, yeah, that's you knowone.
I think that in our infinitewisdom, as little tiny humans
who yeah can't just spurcreation at the, you know, at

(46:29):
the, at our whim right orwhatever like we have to have
some form of humility to go.
I don't know why he told him tokill all the women and children
, yeah, but I don't know, man,maybe I can, maybe I can get
there you know yeah, and thenlike and I have to, or like you
know how is it classically, howcould god be good?
or already kills him, whatever,like you know, it's like I don't

(46:52):
need to know that yet, andmaybe my own like, just because
my heart feels like that's bad.
Is it bad?
I don't know, maybe there'slike, maybe I don't know
everything.
And so there has to be,obviously there has to be.
People have to be at a pointwhere they're, you know, willing

(47:13):
and humble to accept and goforward.
But in many cases, yeah, it'sgot to be gentle, nudges and
asking, just throughrelationship, people to engage
it yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Speaking on that note , though, have you ever seen
this old school video ofterminator going back in time to
save jesus from judas?
No, it's incredible.
I don't.
Uh, we get, we don't have towatch it right now, but I'll
show you later but it's honestlyjust a skit of Jesus at the
Last Supper, or maybe I thinkit's actually more than that.

(47:48):
It's not just the Last Supper,but it's like throughout Jesus'
life Whenever someone wants tokill him, the Terminator is
trying to stop them.
And just straight up, pullingout a shotgun From his robe and
just blasting Roman legionnairesand the assassins sent to kill
Jesus when he was a baby awayand like then, like Jesus is
like in the last step, wherehe's like surely I tell you, one

(48:11):
of you will betray me tonight.
And then like he's like it'sJudas, it like shoots him and
Jesus is like how many timeshave I told you I need him to
kill me?
And he, like he like puts hishand out.
You hear like a choir sound.
And then judas is like he'slike alive sitting up on the
table and the turd is like no, Imust protect it like shoots

(48:32):
judas again and like sends himfurther down the table.
Is that actually arnold?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
no, it's not an artist.
The guy looks like him.
Yeah, it's a good cast.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Dude, but it's so funny man.
Jesus is like I've told you.
He has to it's destiny, it'sfate.
I have to die for this.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
It's a man, he's like it's in my programming that I
must save you, jesus.
It's so funny, dude, I'mscrolling through it right now
it's pretty.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
It's a very, very, very old skit, but it's so funny
it's like at least 15 years old.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah, down the thing.
It says it this is recorded offof a television.
Says the bomb.
Says star trek, the nextgeneration.
Tonight at eight from mad tv ohman, the greatest action story
ever told.
That's what it's called.
That's hilarious, oh, that is.
That is some good clean, goodclean fun right there.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, and it's like it does it like in a very
wholesome way, Like I don't eventhink it ever shows any blutter
like that Like it was like madefor.
It was probably made for ayouth group church, you know
know it was like made out ofchurch budget, um, but anyways,
uh, dude, okay, all right backto the news, though.
Oh to the news um, have youheard about the blackout in

(49:48):
spain and portugal?
No, okay, do this, do thiswhoever, whoever's listening to
do this.
Now Look up satellite photo ofPortugal, spain blackout.
It's unreal how eerie this is.
The whole country, whole nationof Spain and Portugal, which is
about the size of Texas, isexperiencing total blackout

(50:11):
right now and we don't know why.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Right now still, yeah , still.
Oh, my goodness, is it video?
Let's see Satell's seesatellite photo.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I mean, you can just look at a picture yeah, oh, wow,
wow, wow, that's crazy lookingyeah, like total, complete

(50:43):
blackout, like the only peoplewith power in spain and portugal
right now uh, and a little bitof france, I guess um are people
who have generators or solar,which?
doesn't like, doesn't look likevery many no dude, the whole
whole nation is dark, um, butisn't that insane?
Uh, a lot of people, thoughthere's a lot of like congested,

(51:06):
like contested informationcoming out, and there's
definitely some misinformation,but a couple of things that some
people were saying was thatthere it was caused by a solar
flare, which we've talked aboutsolar flares before on here and
like how they uh like thebiggest one was the 1859 one, um

(51:26):
, that you know was an insaneblackout throughout, like, uh,
new york and canada, um, but uh,we haven't like one,
electronics are way moreinsulated and protected nowadays
from solar flares.
We would not probably see thathappen from a solar flare today,
even a powerful one.
But two, there's no detectionsof solar flares going off, so we

(51:51):
don't think it's a solar flarething.
But this is one of the weirdthings that so far people
haven't been able to disprovePole shift.
That so far people haven't beenable to disprove.
Poles shift and some people areout there theorizing like, hey,
if the grid is weak enough insome nations we could be
experiencing like the vibrationsare right from the North and

(52:11):
South poles shifting, like whichthey genuinely like they?
And historically, I guess, ifyou observe Earth's history,
there's evidence that the poleshave shifted and flipped.
But before they flip, theyshift pretty egregiously before.
It's kind of like the waymagnets work right, like as

(52:31):
you're getting magnets closerand closer and closer and closer
together, uh, there's a momentwhere you can feel the force
building before they slip out ofyour fingers and snap together.
Or you're pushing up, uh, youknow, same pole like positive,
positive.
And there's a moment where,like right before you can get

(52:52):
them to touch, they like switchand pivot and spin around to to
attract um.
A lot of people are theorizinglike that you know this could be
a result of pole shift and thatwe're looking at like a total
pole swap in the next like yearor two.
Is that because spain andportugal have not had very good
power grids and, like it,actually their grids have been

(53:14):
compared to like third worldones?
I believe just because of theinfrastructure is so old and not
like properly sustained by thegovernment?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
and what do they even do?
I don't know.
Like what do they?
What is spain and portugal?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I mean meaning like they give money to millennials
to come live in their country,right?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
now, that's what I mean as far as like how do you
keep up an infrastructure?
It's like you haven't doneanything since like 1942.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Before I mean 1492.
Can you?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
imagine if you told, like the Spanish, like what the
empire would become.
You're like no one knows whatyou guys do anymore.
Yeah, you're tiny, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Okay, when we're talking pole shift, are we
talking like you know?
We're talking 180?
Yeah, Wow.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Yeah, and like there's actually some.
What do flat earthers thinkabout the pole shift?
Well, it's just like the coinflipping over, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
That sounds worse.
All the water's going to dumpout.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah Well, no, we'll move over to the water on the
bottom side.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Hmm, I see.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
No, you can see graphics like 3D renderings and
stuff.
Let me look this up.
3d renderings of Earth's.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Oh man, this isn't even from some random, this is
from NASA.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
No, that's what I'm saying.
They believe it's happenedbefore and they have actual GIFs
animations.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
They think it happens around every 300 000 years.
Yep, wow, what would that do,uh?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
it'd annihilate the world, apparently, according to
some yeah, like what's the.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
I mean that's definitely like possible, but
what's like the, what's the,what's the more medium
temperature swap?
It's just.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Here's the thing.
No one has any freaking clue.
They don't know, it's beforerecorded history.
There's not anything in theSumerian texts that are like,
yeah, and passed down over thegenerations was the story of
when the north was once thesouth and the south was once the
north.
Wow, and also maybe it's just abuttload of bunk.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Yeah, you know what I mean yeah, makes the mason
dixon line feel very, uh,unimportant.
Yeah, that's as far as thegrowing up where I was from,
that was the.
That was the most importantthing about north and south, the
old mason dixon line.
This is.
This is a whole, nother, whole,nother issue.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
We got going on here yeah, have you really never
heard anything like talks aboutlike the pole shift?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I think I like now that you bring it up, like I
have heard of it, but it's justsomething that I just so often
have been like same thing with,like I've heard that you know
what a sun turns into a redgiant.
You know what I mean, but justI'm also like yeah but like
we'll be way gone, Exactly yeah.
Just be kind of like, yeah andwell, balls, you know, what else
can I do?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
On livesciencecom.
They say that let's look seehere.
Scientists say it's the weekendbetween phase that would be
roughest on earthlings.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Earthlings.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, it's like the week in between phase when we
don't have a north and southgradient Supercomputer models
here.
This is actually horrifying.
Do we blow up?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Does our blood boil.
What happens, dude, I'm goingto show you this.
No wonder that freaking alienautistic guy is trying to get to
mars right now, dude, he's like.
You mean elon musk.
We said alien autistic guy.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I legit went through like four or six people I've
seen on youtube recently.
I'm like.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Which one is he talking about?
He's trying to get to mars.
He's like we gotta get to marspeople.
I've been telling you it'simportant.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Well, mars poles can't reverse because Mars has
no polarity, hence why there'sno atmosphere to protect, like
there's no atmosphere becausethe solar flares from the sun
have stripped it away, like thepolarization of those flares
have pulled away the ionizationof the atmosphere.
So you need poles for there tobe an atmosphere and the poles

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of Earth we've all seen.
They show the loopy line imagesof how the poles create these
loops around Earth that slowlyget bigger and further out and
further out, and when solarflares come they bend around
those loops and then, like youknow, go around the other side,
and so if you look at, uh, youknow when we're, when we're in

(57:46):
between reversals, right and uh,you know we're looking at like
there's clearly a north, clearlya south, and like that helps,
you know, with the currents andthe atmosphere and uh, both
ocean currents and atmosphericcurrents, but also our magnetic

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essentially protection frompositive and negative charged
ions in space coming towards usthat would usually destroy us.
And then there's the image ofduring the reversal, what it's
going to look like, and it'sjust freaking spaghetti.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I'm looking at that right now.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
It's just like so just take that up and, like you
know, shake it up in a bottle,uh, and every.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
There's like dropping .
It's like this, like a bottleof coke on the shelf at walmart.
Yeah, it's fine, drop somementos at that bitch and see if
it's fine after that.
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
No, it, no, it's pretty bonkers.
Some people suggest that thecontinentals, like the platonic
shells, would shift.
There's a lot of talk of, like,you know, there'd be big
earthquakes, there'd be tsunamis.
Of course, as a result of thoseearthquakes, there'd be massive
volcanoes going off because ofessentially, the whole idea is,

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if these shifted the crust ofthe earth, you know what makes
up our continental shelves wouldmove, and then all the stuff
that comes from that wouldhappen.
So earthquakes, volcanoes,tsunamis.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yeah, Like any any apocryphal text.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
True, true, true.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Oh, my gosh and uh.
So how come we're always likethe meteors, knocked out the
dinosaurs?
What about this?
Yeah, no, dude.
If this happens every 300,000years, it seems like you could.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
That's the thing is right.
I think the reason why theydon't think this would happen is
like because if it washappening every 300,000 years,
dinosaurs have been around foryou know millions, hundreds of
millions of years and so it waslike, because that's also the
thing is like if you follow thescientific theory of Pangea and
how we have our carnage today.

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Originally Pangea Pangea wasn'tthe first landmass.
The concept is that essentiallyright before the dinosaurs
boomed into existence, all thelandmasses were just still
floating around and then theyshifted together into Pangea,
kind of scrunching up, and thenwe saw the first really really
highly complex animals on Earthcome into existence.

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And then there was theessentially like Pangea breaking
apart into Cretaceous, and thenPangea breaking apart into no
sorry, was it Trassic, thenJurassic, then Cretaceous, which
is why there's dinosaur bonesin Antarctica, because
Antarctica used to be actually atropical climate much further

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towards the equator.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
So if the people who are saying this could happen and
then everything's dying, thescientists, the scientists.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Right, dude.
Imagine you got to be sorry.
Let me just say before this isa quick thing imagine you could
be a scientist about somethingthat's not been proven at all to
be real at all, like you're.
Like, yeah, I'm a scientistabout the polar shifts, and
you're like, yeah, but likescience didn't exist then yeah,
it's like yeah, but we're prettysure it's real.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Like it's just kind of crazy to me that this could
be your whole career, and justto be like, and I don't want to
be right, but I really think I'mright, you know, yeah, okay, so
if it happens every 300,000years and it's deadly, are they
saying, is the thought that itwipes out humanity because of

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our, how much we care abouttechnology and how much we rely
on it?
Or are they saying like it's afull, like just a full wipe?
no on nature, because becauseI'd say then that I'd mean like,
how did if, if the same peoplewho are saying this could happen
are also the same people whoalso then are going to say you

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know, 100% ascribed to, likeevolution.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
It'd be like well, those weak ass monkeys would
have died every 300,000 years.
So how do we get you know sothey, if it took millions and
billions of years to get to thispoint?
Is the shift that big a deal?
So, is it what's going to thispoint?
Is the shift that big a deal?
So, is it what's going to killus from the shift?

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I think what I think the big thing is that, like,
like, the theory is that it'snot a global mass extinction,
it's that it's just a wipe ofhuman civilization.
Right, like it's, like, it'slike we're not getting ground
shaking and oh there's tsunamison the coast, Right, but it's
not, like you know, it's notactual like America splitting in

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half Right Now.
There's kind of like a littlebit of a thing where, like you
know, people are saying it'skind of like quote unquote, like
almost 2012, because in themovie 2012.
Did you watch that movie?
I can't remember.
Dude, the 2020 2012 disastermovie where they're like it's
the Mayan calendar thatpredicted it.
No, you're thinking the dayafter tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Yeah.
With the super storm with JakeGyllenhaal and Dennis.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Quaid Burn all those books.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Yeah, yeah, that was a good movie.
I liked that one a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I didn't watch 2012.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
We should watch 2012.
It's like it's like it's worthit for woody harrelson's
performance in the cgi, likeit's one of those one movies
where you're like, damn, this issome good cgi, like that's what
the money was spent on, not thescript, but uh, the.
The whole thing with that oneis that the polls reverse, they
flip, which was predicted by themayan calendar, which is why

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the mayan calendar ends indecember or whatever 2012 it was
.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
It was it was may 21st 2012.
Yeah, whatever it was.
Yeah, just because I rememberthe Mayan calendar, which is why
the Mayan calendar ends inDecember or whatever 2012.
It was May 21st 2012.
Yeah, whatever it was.
Yeah, Because I remember thatwas my high school graduation or
something was near there and Iwas getting ready for it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Oh yeah, I remember I bought some water.
I was like, well, in case itgoes wrong, I got two cases of
water in my car.
I was a high schooler.
I was like I'll live in theapocalypse, baby.
That's the biggest thing aboutbeing a high schooler is just
like you're like I'll survive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
When we get to the end of this.
I do have a question for you.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
But anyways.
So that was the thing.
And like what happens in thatmovie is Yellowstone goes off
because of the polarity.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
I was just about to ask about yellowstone going off
from this, so that's like thebig thing is like they don't
think that it's the poleshifting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
That would be usually like a mass extinction event,
but because of the other thingsthat are synced up to go off,
for sure it could be a massextinction event.
Now, in that movie one of thethings that happens is overnight
the ice shelves melt away fromYellowstone and the earth is

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completely flooded andeverything is shifting
tectonically.
And now the tallest mountain inAfrica is an island sticking
out of the ocean, and that'swhere they're like, like we got
to get to this island and it'slike this all happened in like
two days, and you know what Imean.
And like, of course it's not,it wouldn't be to that scale,
probably from like what peopleare saying, what scientists are

(01:05:09):
saying, anyways, that's, that'sthe big thing, right, is like,
is the pulse shifting?
Uh, end of the world event?
No, but it probably, everysingle time it happens, causes
some tsunamis that are going tobe, for sure, a huge headache
and stuff, but what's neverexisted on Earth before a
civilization entirely relying onelectronic infrastructure that

(01:05:32):
is very much sensitive topolarity.
And I think like that's a bigthing, right, it's like we'd go
back to Stone Age stuff for sure.
Like it wouldn't end, like thatwould be the quote unquote mass
extinction for humans, right,it'd be like we'd go from a 7

(01:05:59):
billion and something populationto a 2 billion in the matter of
a year because of just thedamaged infrastructure and
isolation and starvation.
So, all right, ask yourquestions so one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
I'm pretending to have the answers.
I just asked chat gpt where'sthe safest place to live during
a pole shift?

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
chat gpt says your mom's basement, yeah, it'd be
like I'd I won't care it's likeI have no stake in this.
I'll be dead.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Upload yourself to me , um, let's see.
It says hypothetical safetycriteria for a pole shift one
high elevation, but not volcanic, um to avoid tsunamis.
Example Example eastern slopesof the Rocky Mountains.
Hey yo, colorado or westernMontana.
It's obviously not factoring inthe Yellowstone issue.

(01:06:47):
Yeah, because we're dead inlike.
I think we're dead in likethree and a half seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
No, no, no, it's fast , bro, you dummy.
No, dude, it's fast.
No, it's not that fast, it'sfast as hell.
No, it's not that fast, it'snot that fast, it's
instantaneous bro.
Oh my gosh bro, no dude, that'sactually dude.
You gotta watch the movie now,um 2012 there's literally like a
scene where they're out runningthe ash cloud at like an
airport and it's awesome bro,it's so sick.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Regardless of timing, it's just like we are dead If
the Wyoming theories, if theYellowstone, well, yellowstone's
not in Wyoming, yellowstone'sup in Montana, along the edge
with Montana, and you mean.
Yellowstone National Park.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
It's in Wyoming.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Oh, is it?
Yeah, I thought Yellowstone wasMontana, idaho.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Well, the Yellowstone , so Yellowstone National Park's
Wyoming, but then you have theYellowstone River and the
Yellowstone is a larger areathat does encompass Idaho,
wyoming Montana, but also youwant to get inland away from

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fault lines.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
I'm telling you, dude , we're dead.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
In1, 2.1 nanoseconds.
You're just dead.
Your eyeballs come out likeyou're in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
I'm going to ask Chad GPT now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
In the, when they opened the freaking Ark of the
Covenant, indiana Jones, facemelt.
So get high, get inland, awayfrom fault lines.
Three a stable climate and withfreshwater access.
Four, low population density.
Five stay away from nuclearfacilities.

(01:08:28):
Oh, come on, chatgbt.
We knew all this stuff already.
But hey, close enough.
And then summary ideal safezone is a well-elevated, inland,
geographical stable locationwith reliable water, all right,
such as the SouthernAppalachians.
Dude, the Appalachians Would besick.
Dude, they're going to live on.
They're just going to Abandonthese hollows and all the fire

(01:08:52):
and brimstone, like revelationpreaching, that's been going on
in those mountains for years.
It's just going to be proven tothe top.
They're going to be proven tothe top.
They're gonna be like we'vebeen telling you, been telling
you, um, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
so my question would be from it, you know, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
So six to twelve hours, six to twelve hours you
dinghies to go from theyellowstone national park to den
Colorado Still dead Bro six to12 hours.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
We've got plenty of time to leave.
I need a plane.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
You should watch the movie.
Okay, a point of pride and areality check.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
When the polls shift.
Is Mick going to survive?
Yeah, exactly, there's no doubtin my mind that this is not a
problem for me.
Yeah, dude.
No, I've been slowly chippingaway at the prepper supplies,
right, I mean, what are wetalking about?
How long?
How long does it survive?

(01:09:57):
I don't know 24 hours, for sure, six months.
Probably a year, I don't know.
Man, that's a lot of walking tothe local lake picking up
buckets of water walking.
I might be like after a year Imight be like, man, dan, this is
a lot of work.
I'm just going to go fight somekind of mutant bear.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Just go out into the woods and not come back, and
that's where I feel.
I know it's not true, but Iknow that if I was butt ass
naked in the woods and a grizzlybear came after me, I'd win.
I know I'm wrong, but in myheart I would win and I think
that is I would lose, if I wasbutt ass naked.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
I would lose in R&B.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
I know, but there just has to be that piece.
There's just like this littlething in me you gotta have that
dog in you.
It is the reason why, after somany polar shifts, we're still
here, baby we didn't get knockedout.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Our monkey ancestors went.
I don't give a f dude.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
We're still here, baby.
We didn't get knocked out.
Our monkey ancestors went whoop, whoop, whoop.
Yeah, I don't give a F dude,I'm making it through this, they
rediscovered fire again.
Just that, not even a will tosurvive, but just a belief you
will survive.
There's something in there and,like I said, I know I'd be dead
.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I know I'd be dead.
Well, you don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
I'd be dead.
I know I'd be dead.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Well, you don't know, but I also know I would win.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
It's a predicament, it's a conundrum in my brain,
it's the acceptance that it'sokay if you die.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
It's like, yeah, I mean, if I die, I die, right,
you can't change the fact ofdeath.
That's what I'm saying there'sa hundred but also the mentality
of like, but I'm going to, I amgoing to live because I'm not
going to roll over.
And I think that's like one ofthe most tragic things about

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being married is accepting thatall wives will die, because all
wives believe they will die.
I've never met anyone whose wifewas like, oh yeah, I'd live.
Like every one of my friendswho, when we've had this
conversation hanging out all oftheir wives and Billie Jean have
said like, oh, I'd be dead sofast and it's like okay, but
like, could you not?
Could you have a little bit ofinitiative here, like I'm

(01:12:07):
putting in a lot of effort tomake sure you don't die.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
And what's wild is?
They won't die.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
I will die, but I don't think I'll die.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Making sure they live .
No, get infected, killgangrenous and die out in the
corner crying with a man cold.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
That's what I'm saying.
That's why I need you tospecify time.
I will live the first fewmonths but, I, will get sick and
die.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
I will live on.
I will repopulate the earthsingle-handedly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I don't think Mace Windu is going to be all for
that.
Wait, how can you repopulatethe Earth single-handedly?

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
We're going to have to get creative with the tools
at hand.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
We're going to have to adopt.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
It can be reversed, I don't know, with sticks and
stones, as I'm saying in apost-polar shift world.
In a post-polar shift world.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Imagine I have a book and I'm just opening the
bioclinic guide on vasectomies,when you're just letting me take
a sharp stone to try to undothis.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
I think we could do it, man.
Hey, macgyver did a lot ofstuff with a paperclip.
Get some fuel tubing, get afuel line off.
I don't think Guyver ever hadsex.
I'll take an old that wasMcGruber.
He had no chance.
Take a fuel line off an oldToro lawnmower, take a little

(01:13:34):
piece of that, reconnect thelines.
We're back in action, doingwhat you need to do for the
human population.
You know, I've got a duty, I'vegot a duty to uphold and, like
I said I, there's no way I willlive.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
I will not but in my heart I know I will okay, but
come on like legitimately,realistically let's talk about
like like if it's not if it'snot truly end of civilization
and it's not like all yourneighbors are just dropping off
like flies.
You know I mean we're talkinglike, oh yeah, you know.
Billions die because that'swhere majority of people live,

(01:14:12):
are along the coastlines, andwhen there's no planes flying
and no cars working, it's goingto be hard to get out of the
coastlines before the tsunamicatches up and no ships bringing
you food.
Yeah, but let's say like,predominantly, if you're not
living on the, if you're notwithin 20 miles of the coast,
you're just like all right, Igot no power and now I need to

(01:14:32):
live.
So it's like we're talkingstarvation.
The number one thing that'sgoing to go away is food and
clean water.
Good thing we have structuresthat are pretty hardy.
Here's the thing.
Look at even cheapo apartmentsor townhouses, those things.
They're going to be up therefor a long time.

(01:14:54):
Your 10-story, 20-storyskyscrapers probably not as much
because of the level ofmaintenance they need every
single year.
And that's not even like I'mnot even talking about like
poorly built ones, like a lot ofpeople don't realize how much
infrastructure gets replaced ina skyscraper every year.
But you know you can live inyour cave, which is currently

(01:15:16):
your home or townhome home, forprobably the rest of your life
without that structure comingdown on you.
So your your six weeks, yourbiggest priority is going to be
food and water.
So, pat, you're a hunter.
You live near some fresh water,some of the freshest water in
the nation.
What do you think?

(01:15:36):
Are you staying?
One, I guess.
Are you staying where you're at?
And two, are you?
Are you thinking you're goingto?
You're going to make it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
I think I'd say I honestly don't have good
infrastructure in place.
On a personal level.
Now, I think I'm better set upthan most.
For sure, for sure.
But uh, the um.
So excuse me.
That being said, there is a,there is a the the plan is the

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compound which would be at olddad's place, your dad's dude.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
You know what that's a journey it is I also think
that's kind of the journey MaceWindu and I would take, not to
your dad's place, but to, you'dtake my wife to my dad's place.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
What you said, mace Windu.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Oh, no, no, no, sorry , I'm just kidding, that's a
play that Billie Jean and I haveas well.
Billie Jean's not my lover no,billy jean's, my lover, I know,
but we're also heading south inthat direction in that neck of
the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
I just quote michael jackson oh yeah, that's why I
call her billy jean, I know okay, anyways, the yeah, so I mean
because I, from a the comms,have gone down perspective.
Okay, next step is to circlethe wagons, which would be, um,
everybody in the family goes todad's place.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Everyone, every family will just become the
Hatfield and McCoys again.
It will become tribal of.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
I'm a McCoy and you're a Hatfield.
If you want to live, you needto become a Mormon, or get
friends with a Mormon, becausethey're stocked, bro, they're
ready.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
They're the primary purch, bro, they're ready.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
They're the primary purchaser of the bunker homes.
They make preppers look likejokes, dude.
They're like what are youtalking about?
We've been doing this since dayone.
They are prepped out the yang.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
It's not because they're even worried about the
apocalypse, it's just expensiveto feed 11 mouths.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Yeah, I know They've got to have somewhere to keep
all that Costco food, butactually a big, big part of it
is they're post-tribulationists.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
So they believe.
You know that they got to stickaround after the second coming.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Do you think that too ?

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I think there's a stronger argument for
pre-tribulation.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Like we get taken up Right and we don't starve.
Yeah, no, no, I don't want tosidetrack you, I was just
curious.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Now I do Like in high school I was like I think it's
pre, but I kind of hope it'spost.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
I hope it's post.
I hope it's post.
I hope it's post.
You know what I mean, I hopeit's post.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
This is back to the conversation of the.
I think I'll survive the.
The survivors Like I'm like.
I hope it's post.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
What's there to lose?
Post tribulation, I die, I goto heaven.
Exactly, you get to findtribulation.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I don't even get to test it.
I don't even get to use allthis crap.
I bought, dude, exactly.
I bought so much crap for this.
It better happen.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Let me see if my water filtration works.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
But yeah, no, the plan is to get family together
and then from there, you know, Idon't know, do what you can,
but it's like the Grow potatoes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Potatoes grow good in Coloradoado.
Man, they do, they do.
Corn is a waste in colorado.
That's one of the crops that islike I just don't get when
people grow corn in colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
We grow unless you're out east towards, like nebraska
and I'll say this on potatoeswe grow potatoes in our tiny
garden which is literally um,let's say, 20 square feet.
Yeah, sure, that's generous.
We grow potatoes in that Prettymuch year-round, right, not

(01:19:28):
year-round, we don't grow themyear-round, but when we grab
them.
The big thing about potatoes isthey won't necessarily grow
well year-round, but they lastso long also.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
I know that when and when we were growing them, we
left them in the dirt.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
I'll come back the next year, yeah you didn't, we
didn't have to like replant.
And so I will say, from a 20square foot area, we, um, we
fill up like half a milk cratewith potatoes, which.
So if you put that on a largerscale and not most people don't
have this like capability, butif you could plant an acre of

(01:20:07):
potatoes, holy smokes that would.
That would get you through feedyour fam, you know yeah, have
you ever.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
What is?
What is that called the, theHebrew potato, or the?

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Israel, potato Israel , yeah, those, ones are even
hardier.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
They taste more like dirt, I guess, but they're even
hardier and they grow in sand.
And I'm like that's freakingbonkers to me.
No, man, I agree too.
Yeah, I think if we're talkinglike full on, like zombie virus,
99% of humanity is gone.
I don't know, man, I don't evenknow if I'd try to stay alive

(01:20:44):
at that point, right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Like I wouldn't be suicidal but I think I'd be
going like blaze of glory stuff,like I don't really want to see
people eating people.
But if you know we're talkinglike a pole shift and the only
change is like now there's nomoney and it's like bartering
with you know, gold or bottlecaps and uh, you know it's

(01:21:11):
finding a community, or justlike accepting like this is your
community and you're probably,no, never gonna leave the town
you're in currently for the restof your life.
That's one thing why I reallylike where I live now, where we
live now, I guess because wehave such a good, like I would
say, natural infrastructure forlike survival.

(01:21:36):
I do think the most brutalthing would be winters, right,
but I do I think that's justsolved with building viking
lodges, you know.
I mean just be like all rightguys, everybody every single day
for winter is sleeping in thisgiant lodge.
We're all just getting togetherto drink beer until we sleep
through the winter and we'llwork through the spring, and I

(01:21:58):
think that would be.
I think that would make a bigcomeback in colorado for sure
you know I mean viking lodge.
Yeah, because what are you gonnado in the winter anyways?

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
that's true.
If there's no power, I mightstill go skiing.
You know, you gotta, you gottado something for fun, maybe
that's so many calories to burn.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
It's true, it's uh, so many taters.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Jerusalem, artichoke jerusalem artichoke yeah, that's
right, but it's basically anisrael potato israel potato, you
know jerusalem artichoke.
No, yeah, I think.
Uh, it's funny, like I.
I think my general plan iswhich this will make so many
people who like actually try toget ready for stuff so mad is
like my plan is to figure it outonce it's time now.

(01:22:41):
That being said, part of that'sbecause because there's so many
unknowns and you don't actuallyknow how it's gonna, what's
gonna be affected.
It's like um the classic.
You know the plan a is onlygoing to be good for about 10
minutes.
You know, like type of thing,and so I think the ability to

(01:23:04):
figure it out is important and,yeah, you could you know,
prepare and do whatever you canand have like all your things
together, but then ultimatelyit's like the, the knowledge
skill and knowledge is like isparamount compared to uh, I'd
say it's equal to, if not moreimportant than, um, like

(01:23:25):
supplies, preparedness, you know, and at least in the longterm,
I agree for the most part.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
I do think there are some supplies, though, that can
just be like universallybeneficial.
Um and a big, like one of thoseI can just be universally
beneficial, and a big one ofthose.
I'm just going to say it.
We're not sponsored, of course.
We're not sponsored by any ofthese things, but these are
things that you can find on.
Amazon through our links.
Fidget spinners H2O Go.

(01:23:54):
It's called H2O Go.
What is that?
It is a small device that fitsin your pocket of your jeans,
fits in the pouch of a fannypack or in your backpack.
You put salt in one side andthen you put water in the other
and it automatically, when youpresses the button, uses its

(01:24:14):
onboard power to generate enoughuh, essentially bleach to
purify two liters of water, andthat's as much as it generates.
So you just let it generate itand then you just let it drip
into your water and it lastsforever.

(01:24:36):
Because the amount of salt andwater that it takes to generate
that little like tiny bit ofbleach is so minuscule.
You just leave it topped offwith salt.
And then also, all of them arebuilt in with solar panels on
the back of them.
Is it like?
It just never dies?
You just leave it like ifyou're cleaning water, just

(01:24:56):
leave it with the panel up, sothat way it's charging.
You can clean more watertomorrow or later on today, and
it's so clutch.
It's easily the best waterpurification device that exists
and I think big water is justlike or big prepper, you know,
is just trying to censor itBecause I just don't understand

(01:25:17):
why it doesn't get more coverage.
It's like you read the reviewsand it works flawlessly.
Yeah, it's like no one's everhad it breaking down or failing
them in, like you know, whenthey need it for camping or
whatever, um, and yeah, it's notgonna purify your gunky, muddy,
disease ridden blood, riddengasoline.
Uh, you know tainted water,like you're still gonna have to

(01:25:39):
filter that out through somecharcoal and you're still going
to have to like filter throughsome sand and boil it.
But this, this will actuallykill like all the bacteria in it
.
But it's not going to doanything for like the impurity,
like physical impurities, likemercury or lead or something
like that.
You'd still want to do a boildrip process to leave those

(01:26:01):
behind.
But all I said, it's like oneof those things that's like if
I'm in like a hurry and I'm likelooking at this river water,
I'm like, damn, I need somewater and I know that if I'm in
a survival situation, I'm notfucking worried about lead
poisoning 20 years down the road.
I I'm like, I'm like I'll dealwith the fucking, I'll deal with
the lead and mercury in thiswater.

(01:26:22):
Uh, what I need is to make sureI don't have, you know,
diarrhea for the next three daysCause I've drank some water out
of a river and this works tocover that.
Right, and it's so mobile, uh,but it's called H2O go.
It's so easy.
You can find them on Amazon.
They're great.
I have one.
It works really good.
You don't even taste it whenyou put it in your water, mm-hmm
.
So anyways that.

(01:26:44):
And then food is the other one.
Like I think I mean you're abig hunter.
You know what I mean and Ithink that's like a big thing in
and of itself is just havingthe know-.
But the other stuff is likeit's so easy, man, to just like
buy an extra like six bucksworth of canned food that is
high calorie and just startstocking that up.

(01:27:07):
Like you can honestly just buylike canned fruit and the
calories in canned fruit becauseof the natural sugars and stuff
is just so high.
Yeah, it's just so high.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Yeah, and I think the canned way to go is going to be
like hunting is important inyour skills to procure food, but
what's wild about wildlife inAmerica?
It is so heavily protected itwill be wiped out in a year oh,
dude, the, uh, the what was it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
department of energy, I think, when they did their
official study and report onwhat would happen with a uh
total blackout in america if thegrid just went down, whether
from a solar flare or not, anymp strike.
Uh.
They said that uh 99 of thenative deer population in
America would be gone within thefirst six weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
From people shooting them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Yeah, from people just going out and hunting deer,
a lot of people don't have theunderstanding that if whatever
happens doesn't wipe out a lotof people right away, you will
never see a deer, an elk, elk ora rabbit again.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
I mean like, like those will be gone within the
first year, for sure yeah, yeah,it's like it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
It's pretty wild, like the you know.
Go back to daniel boone days.
Like the population densitywise compared to animals.
Like yeah, you could go out andjust like the world was your
oyster and forage and huntingstuff.
But like at this point, if wedidn't have like extreme rules

(01:28:47):
in place, there would bebasically no wildlife besides
some squirrels and birds and inamerica and well, which into
that case, too, it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
The argument is, then like also, though if we don't
have a scenario where a massamount of people, like majority
of the population's, wiped out,then you're in a scenario where
you probably don't need to huntthat much, because you're in a
scenario where majority ofpeople are still alive.
you just don't have power rightand, like you, don't have a
government.
So therefore, you just makeyour own little town and keep

(01:29:16):
your, keep your pigs and cowsalive, keep your chickens alive,
and then you don't have to gohunt a ton.
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
I mean, you brought up the having the salt piece and
I was like, man, that's great,but you don't got no salt.
What are you going to do withsalt?
And then I was like I waslooking up, like you know the a
map of like where all the saltmines are in america.
Yeah, it's just funny, like,because it's just the things you

(01:29:44):
don't think of like we forgetthat entire salt expires though
no, no it doesn't.
but you can have it for a longtime.
But like we forget that thewhole world used to go to war
and fight and stand up hugecompanies and build entire ships
and have camel trains go inplaces yeah, just for spices.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
You know like.
Same spice you know, just forlike those things.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Give me that cardigan , not cardigan.
What's that spice calledGardigan no LB out.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
I don't know.
I don't know what you're tryingto say.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
There's a spice that sounds like cardigan, but it's
not cardigan.
Fuck, give me that paprika.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
Oh man, there's one near us, we can go get that
thing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Anyways.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Yeah, the it's as far as the polar shift goes.
It's funny too, I mean, whereit is all like theory, you know,
and but who knows?
Until it happens, we don't know.
And if it does happen, goodthing.
You've been putting into like a401k or something.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Yeah, yeah, see I, I that's my, that's my two hedges
right?
Yeah I prepare for, not the endof the world by taking
wheelbarrows of my income andputting them in investments.
I prepare for the end of theworld by taking the other
wheelbarrows of money and buyingcanned food and mres.
Yeah and uh, I live poor now,but gosh damn it.

(01:31:21):
The world doesn't end.
I'll be rich when I retire andgosh damn it.
If the world doesn't, I'll berich when it ends.
You know what I?

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
mean, oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
Oh man, I think, uh, it's, Ithink, the prepping thing.
I feel like I always feel likeI need to do more and at the
same time, I'm like if I go allin, I'm going to lose my mind.

(01:31:54):
I'm going to be doing the full.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Who needs their mind Just going full bore on.
Yeah, I'm going to be, you know, like doing the full, like you
know who needs their mind.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Just like you know, going full boron yeah but come
on, pat, who needs their mind?

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
What's your mind ever done for you?

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
I know I know, but we'll see how it goes when the
polar shift happens here and forSpain.
I mean, uh, this, this articlesaying it was induced by
atmospheric vibrations yeah itsounds like pole shifts to me.
That's pretty broad, but yeah,oh man all right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Well, hey, this is a pretty eclectic episode.
A lot of a lot of topicscovered.
Oh yeah, I hope that it was uhof entertainment and interest to
you, hope that you got somecool information to go look up,
seek out and kind of follow upon.
But uh, as always, ken, weappreciate listening, we
appreciate your effort tosupport us, whether that's uh on

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We appreciate you all.
It goes a long ways.
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Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Till next time.
Sweet, I got a piss.
I think I was thinking ofcoriander, coriander.
I'll leave this in there forthe end, so that you're redeemed
, it's coriander.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
I'll leave this in there for the end, so that
you're redeemed it's coriander.

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