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August 7, 2025 26 mins

When the kids move out, it’s easy for the marriage to feel distant or even disconnected. But what if the empty nest could be a fresh start?

In this heartfelt episode, Pamela is joined by author and counselor Sally Livingston to talk about how couples can move from feeling like roommates to rekindling emotional and spiritual intimacy. Whether your marriage feels stuck or just needs a reset, this conversation offers hope, practical tools, and the reminder that it’s never too late to reconnect.


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10 Day Journal for Marital Growth here

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Free Guide: 10 Things Not to Say to Your Adult Child here

Free Connection Call with certified Empty Nest Coach, Pamela here

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