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Most people tap out when the work gets boring, not when it gets hard. That’s the opening. In this Mindset Café episode, we unpack how to outlast boredom long enough to compound results: the “bored vs. hard” distinction, the wealth equation of volume over time, crossing the boredom threshold, frictionless routines, input scoreboards, streak mechanics, batching and templates, environment design, anti-quitting contracts, the J-curve of delayed payoffs, and the identity shift that makes finishing boring reps your default. If you want outsized outcomes, master monotony and scale it.

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SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
So listen to this episode and welcome back to the
Mindset Cafe podcast.
It's your boy Devin.
And this episode is going totalk about essentially how do
you beat 99% of people rightnow, right?
You can beat most people atanything if you just don't quit.
When it gets boring, right?

(00:42):
So I wanna I want to dive intothis a little bit because the
bar is set so low right now, andyou can beat 99% of people at
anything if you just don't quit.
If you don't get up, give up, ifyou get up again after you get
knocked down or an obstacle getsput in your place, and even more

(01:06):
importantly, when it getsboring.
So the the first thing is I wantyou to realize that I'm saying
boring and not hard, right?
Not giving up when it getsboring, not hard, because that's
where success is made.
It's by doing boring things foran extended period of time in

(01:29):
more volume, more reps than anysane person would find
reasonable, right?
The world belongs to those whokeep fighting after realizing
winning won't be fast, it won'tbe easy or even guaranteed.
In saying that, I have a littleposter next to me.

(01:51):
Um, and it says winning isn'tfor everyone, because it's not.
Success isn't for everyone.
And that's because most peopleat any sign of adversity, any
sign of resistance or friction,that's when they're like, that's
where I draw the line in thesand.
But anything worth value isgoing to take effort, it is

(02:13):
going to take time, it mighttake money, it might take, you
know, you just showing up on thedays you don't feel like it and
doing the boring tasks.
The tasks that it just feelslike you're doing them, you
know, full effort, but it'sjust, you know, you're trying to
stay awake because it's thatboring.

(02:34):
It's no one ever told you andpromised you that it was going
to be fun.
No one ever said this journey isgoing to be like going to
Disneyland.
This journey to your goal isgoing to be a walk in the park.
You're going to love every dayof it.
No one ever said that.

(02:55):
No one ever promised you that.
And if they did, they're lyingto you.
Because your goal is going totake so much effort that you
don't even know you're going tohave to put in yet.
It's going to take the effortmentally, physically, maybe even

(03:17):
emotionally.
And some of that effort is justdoing the mundane, doing the
boring things, but they'reimportant things.
Some things build skills, somethings are progressions leading
you up to that next step.
You will beat most people justby outlasting that boredom

(03:38):
because everyone sees that shinynew thing, or you know, they see
the grass is always greener overon the other side.
I was having a talk with my newbarber.
I know if you guys listened tothe last episode, had a
conversation with our previousbarber, but new barber, and the
conversation essentially was thefact of you know, I asked him

(04:00):
how things were going, and hewas like, Oh, they're a little
bit slow right now, you know,but it's it's it's normal,
right?
And I was like, Of course, I Icompletely get it.
There's seasons at the gym,there's seasons in business,
100%.
I was like, Isn't it funny howright now you're probably
wishing it was a little busier,right?
And he looked at me and he said,Yeah, it'd be nice if it was a
little bit busier.

(04:20):
And I was like, But isn't itfunny once it is super busy?
Because there's gonna be thoseslam months, you know, we got
Halloween coming up, we gotThanksgiving, Christmas, New
Year's.
The next couple months are gonnabe slammed, I guarantee.
He's like, Yeah, he gets reallybusy during those times.
And I was like, Well, luckily Igot my locked-in appointment,
but I was like, Isn't it funnyduring those times that all of a
sudden we're like, man, I justwish there was a slow day.

(04:43):
I wish there was a day I couldjust breathe.
And he laughed and he he's like,Yeah, honestly, I didn't really
think about that.
He's like, When it's busy, wewant it to be slow.
When it's slow, we want it to bebusy, and that's the nature of
us.
That's the nature of humans.
And so even though it's slow andit might be boring right now,

(05:05):
you showing up with the effort,showing up with the work ethic,
like we talked about in theprevious episode, showing up
with the attitude like we talkedabout in the last episode, those
are the things that separate thepeople that achieve success and
don't achieve success.
Because no one told you it wasgoing to happen tomorrow.
No one said it's gonna take ayear.

(05:26):
No one said your journey is willhappen after this many days.
So you need to think abouttomorrow, maybe it, it may not
be it, but I'm going to achievemy goal, and that is undeniable.
It's not a matter of if I'mgonna achieve it, it's just when
I'm gonna achieve it.

(05:46):
So I'm gonna keep showing up.
Exciting, boring, happy, sad,doesn't matter.
I show up.
That's who I am.
And if you can have that mantraand have that identity ingrained
in yourself of this is who I am,I show up.
If I said I'm gonna dosomething, I show up.

(06:06):
If I'm going to do something, Ido it 100% and I show up.
I'm present when I do things.
There's a difference betweenalmost like the mental capacity
or the the effort versussomething that's hard and
something that's boring.
Sometimes boring is hard.

(06:27):
Don't get me wrong.
Hard people will will see it andthey'll see the the difficulty
and they'll want to achieve it.
And just like you know, you'replaying a new video game and you
want to beat the next level,you'll keep trying because it's
it's hard.
But the moment that hard turnsto boring, that's where people

(06:51):
are like, you know what?
I've tried this too many times,I'm bored of trying trying.
I keep having to do the samepart, you know, I have to keep
you know prepping my meals.
It's like this is gettingboring.
I hate, you know, I I'm gettingbored of going to the gym every
single day.
It's like why those are thethings that you know you need to

(07:14):
do to achieve what you want toachieve.
No one said you're gonna havefun doing it.
Do you want to achieve it ornot?
I mean, that's a question youhave to ask yourself.
But think about this.
If you've always been thatperson that had a goal, did it
until it got boring, or untiluntil you felt bored with it,

(07:35):
and you're like, oh, look, youknow, there's a new thing.
Let's try that.
And then you go, you go, you go,all of a sudden it gets boring,
and you're like, oh, I need tofind something new.
This is boring now.
Switch.
How far do you get on each ofthose things?
Probably not very far.
You have to stick with it longenough to actually allow the

(07:57):
skills, the talent, the whateverit may be to rise to you, or you
for you to rise to it,essentially.
It compounds.
And again, that compoundingdoesn't happen evenly.
It doesn't happen every singleday.
It happens collectively overdays, weeks, months, years.

(08:19):
But no one told you this wasgoing to be fun.
If you're in it for fun, it'snot gonna last very long.
Fun fades.
Excitement fades.
Think about when you, you know,when you first started dating,
you know, or you know, when youfirst got married, you were all
excited, you know, to telleveryone this is my new
boyfriend, this is my newgirlfriend, right?

(08:40):
You know, I'm in a relationshipnow.
You just got engaged.
You're all excited to show offthe ring or you know, tell
everyone I have a fiance, or wejust got engaged.
But then that slowly fades.
And then all of a sudden you getmarried and you're like, oh wow,
you know, this is my wife, andyou know, all of a sudden
there's that new excitement.
But again, that aspect fades.
There's like a honeymoon phaseto essentially everything that

(09:02):
we do in life.
And if all of a sudden thehoneymoon phase ends, and you're
like, there's now I need toswitch things because I need to
get that those that thatendorphin rush, that you know,
all of a sudden that excitementagain.
This is boring.
How far are you gonna get onanything?

(09:22):
Think about if that's how youtreated your relationships.
The honeymoon phase ends, andall of a sudden you're like, oh,
new relationship.
That's how you have to treatyour your goals.
Your goals are a relationship.
What you put in is what you getout.

(09:43):
What you put in is what you getout.
And just because you're puttingin 100% of effort doesn't mean
that it's gonna happen at thesame speed as someone else.
You have to think it's volumeover time.
Your volume and my volume mightbe different, and that's okay.

(10:05):
No one said it's one path,follow this path, everyone wins
on this path.
It's you start here, I starthere, and we figure it out.
You might go right, I might goleft.
I might have to come back left,and you might have to go right.
You figure it out as you go, youadjust as you go, but you show

(10:25):
up regardless.
There is a almost a boredom likethreshold that sinks in, and I
think it is around thathoneymoon phase, or maybe a
little bit after, when all of asudden something new comes
around, and it may not even bethe excitement, to be honest.
It might be all of a sudden youfeel like you hit a plateau.

(10:49):
Whether it's working out,whether it's um at your job,
whether it's you know at a skillthat you've been trying, you
feel like you hit a wall, andall of a sudden you start to get
bored because you can't getaround that wall, you can't get
around that hurdle.
That's where you find the newpath around the hurdle to

(11:10):
continue on the path toachieving what you want to
achieve.
It's not finding a new path togo find and do something else,
it's find the way around theobstacle so you can keep going
forward.
You have to realize that likewhen you're when you start to

(11:33):
get bored, maybe it's becauseyou've already achieved
everything you can achieve atthat one level, at the one spot
that you've you know, like youhit your goal, and you haven't
set a new goal yet.
Because that can happen too.
You can get bored by not settingnew goals.

(11:54):
And you know, people tell me allthe time with business, they're
like, you know, when are yougonna stop?
Like, what what is your goal?
Well, this is my next goal, butthen there's gonna be a goal
after that, and a goal afterthat, and a goal after that.
Because the once you reach thethe the peak of the mountain,
you have to look for the nextpeak.

(12:16):
It doesn't stop once you getthere, you can always achieve
more.
Remember the mantra that we'vetalked about multiple times.
Your goal is to get one percentbetter every day.
That's not every day until youreach X, that's every single day
of your life.
Your goal is to get one percentbetter in an area of your life.

(12:39):
If that's the case, thatstatement is infinite.
Life in your life, you'relooking at things on an infinite
scale, not a finite scale.
So make sure that when you dohit friction or you do hit
boredom, that it's like, okay,well, am I hitting a plateau?

(13:01):
Is it, you know, do I need totry to see what else I can do
achieve?
Like, for example, let's say youI don't know, play the guitar.
You learned your favorite couplesongs, you learned chords, you
learned how to, you know, do alittle solo.
Cool.
Have you learned you know how tothe slide technique?

(13:22):
Have you learned how to fingerpick?
Have you learned how to, youknow, do these other skills that
are within the skill to make youa better guitarist?
Let's say you're a personaltrainer, you're getting bored of
personal training, which one, Idon't see how you could.
Like, if that's you got torealize what your reason why was

(13:42):
for even starting becoming apersonal trainer, but let's say
you get bored of becoming apersonal trainer, right?
Is it are you bored of being apersonal trainer or are you
bored of the workouts that youcan design because you haven't
found that next level?
If you only do Olympic style,you know, lifts, like
traditional bodybuilding lifts,like maybe study some

(14:03):
kettlebells.
It's a whole set of movementpatterns out there that you
don't even know about.
You master that, you're akettlebell expert, right?
And bodybuilding expert.
Cool.
What about powerlifting?
What about slam balls, medicineball workouts, stability
workouts?
What about there's a wholethere's always something else
that can be learned that canelevate you on your path to that

(14:27):
next peak.
But you have to have thewillingness to learn, you have
to have the willingness to getuncomfortable.
I'm sure you've heard the phraseget comfortable being
uncomfortable, because thatuncomfortable stage is where
growth is happening.
It's hard, good.
That means you're growing.

(14:51):
So if I want you to almost takea take a note of what are you
doing in your life that's that'sachieved on the path to achieve
your goal that you are feelingbored in, right?
Take a note throughout the day.
All of a sudden you get bored,take a little mental note, or
take a note in your phone.
You know, this is starting toget boring.

(15:13):
What else?
Then you can start to brainstormor use chat GBT, uh, chat GBT
and be like, hey, how can I getbetter at this?
What's the next level to this?
I'm starting to get boredplaying the guitar.
This is what I know.
How do I level up from there?
It's it's that simple.

(15:33):
But you need to take the stepsto actually do it and actually
get better.
Check off, create a you know,get a calendar and check off all
the days that you pushedyourself a little bit further
than your norm.
Create like a boredom streakcalendar.
Every time you felt bored, youpushed a little bit further.
You try to do something new,take yourself out of your

(15:55):
comfort zone, give your littleself a little star in your
calendar if that's what you needto do.
But if you're if you can't seemto get over your boredness, or
you feel like you plateaued,maybe it is your circle a little
bit.

(16:16):
Is everyone that you hang outwith on a daily basis
complacent?
You don't need to you know leavethe circle, but maybe expand
your circle, you know, getoutside your comfort zone and go
meet some new people that are onthe path that you're trying to
get to.

(16:38):
For example, even here at Strive11, you know, there's the
regular workouts, but then twicea year we have the elite
challenges.
Right?
And with those, there's extraworkouts, there's extra things
that come with it, but thattakes someone that is getting
comfortable outside theircomfort comfort zone.
You weren't tracking your macrosbefore, guess what?

(16:59):
Now you are.
You weren't meal preppingbefore, now you are.
You weren't weighing in all thetime, checking those kind of
things and looking at your bodycomposition, now we are.

(17:24):
So it's up to you to actuallytake those steps, but with
yourself, almost create like ananti-quitting contract.
I will not quit ever.
Right?
I will not quit until I'm ableto do X.
Once I do X, then I you know Ican let myself off the hook if I

(17:45):
still don't like it.
This is almost like a rule thatmy parents had.
I was I'm the firstborn, I gotthree boys, and I've told other
people on podcasts that theyasked, you know, how growing up
was and how I was being theoldest, and and how I got into
personal training andeverything, and I tie it all

(18:06):
back to essentially playingsports.
Um, and what I mean by that is,and how I'm tying this back to
not quitting was my parentsinstilled something into me as a
young kid that I was pretty muchtheir their test dummy on all
the sports.
You know, I did fencing, I didtennis, I did, you know, you
name it.
And I didn't like all of them.

(18:27):
But once I signed up for theseason, I could not quit.
I had to show up, I had to go topractice, I had to do the
tournaments or whatever the casemay be.
And at the end of the season, ifI didn't want to do next season,
that was fine.
But I had to finish.
There was no quittingmid-season, quitting after one

(18:49):
practice.
There was none of that.
So create an anti-quittingcontract with yourself until you
finish that season.
If you're still not feeling itafter that season, okay, maybe
it's time to adjust your path.
But just because you're boredright now doesn't mean that you

(19:09):
get to quit.
Set the end goal, achieve theend goal.
Don't quit until you hit thatend goal.
Find the adjustments, find theresources that you need to to
achieve the goal.
And if you're still unhappyafter you hit your first goal,
okay, let's set a differentgoal.
Let's change trajectory.

(19:30):
So hopefully, with this, youguys are repositioning your
boredom, your complacency, youryou know, feeling like you're in
a rut.
And look for that next thing.
Look for the thing you can addto whatever you're doing,
whatever your goal is, and maybeset that new goal.

(19:50):
But more importantly, find afriend who's stuck and send them
this episode.
Because just like we weretalking about, maybe it's your
circle.
Well, if you can help yourcircle level up and get out of
their complacency, get out oftheir rut, and they start
leveling up, in turn, you'regonna be in a circle with people

(20:12):
that are trying to level up, andyou're gonna end up leveling up
too.
Because if you're around fivemillionaires, you're gonna be
the sixth.
It's how the world works.
So help your friends level up,send them, send them this
episode, send them whatever yourfavorite episode was, and help
them level up as well.
But I appreciate you guys, Ilove you guys, and if you guys

(20:35):
ever need anything, send me a DMon the Mindset Cafe podcast on
Instagram, or you can send oneto my Instagram.
I'm always here, happy to helpany way I can, guys.
See you guys on the next one.
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