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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, man want to do what it is.
You're on another Vaz, it'syour boy, mr Bell aka, I can't
say your name off the spot,might not put you to mock
Actually.
So I'm going to try this newaka aka out on y'all.
I was listening, I imagine Iget everything from glow
nowadays.
Glow heavy, big Q, not thelittle one.
(00:23):
A glow heavy Big Q, not thelittle one.
How does that?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
ride.
I fucks with it.
Big Q, not the little one, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I fucks with it.
That's cool, but some people goassociated with your weight
though.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
The weight is what the weight is Ain't no shit in
the world right.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We living in the moment, we living happy, however
we presenting ourselves, thenfuck with it.
Then Big Q nigga.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Big Q, not the little one you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You a little in some days, though Sometimes you got a
little nigga energy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Not on no day.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hey, the days are in with why nigga?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hey, hey that't get carried away, Get carried away.
Oh man, y'all heard the voices,but first Mr Bergless himself
just made some money.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, period when I filed my taxes, I just went
ahead and put you down forcharity work.
I need to hit up my tax lien.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I'll be forgetting.
I put you down for charity andI got a nice deduction for you.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Okay, I was going to say you should have found me as
a dependent, as much as I dependon you to do these vibes.
But yeah, mr Berkley askedhimself.
Oh man, you know my dog, my dog.
Man, you know the host from myperspective, what up?
Dm?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Hey, I'm doing good.
Hey, just know it.
I know it in the sports podcast, but NFL offseason going crazy
already and my team ain't doingnothing.
I just want to let you know weain't doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But does your team ever do that we?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
don't, but I was hoping.
I had hope.
Maybe we did something.
All we did something.
All we did was restructurecontracts, that's it, and sign
them.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It saved y'all some money.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Nothing too exciting today.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Ain't no wow factor.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Ain't no wow factor in that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
No, I want some players to get me excited, but I
guess I got to wait till thedraft.
But that's neither here northere.
We'll talk about that next weekweek we will.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
We've been ranking the greatness, taking different
labels, and we've been rankingthem and giving them speaking of
them from our perspective, whattheir best albums are the best
artists on that label, the bestmusic on that label.
So we're here to do so, so Def.
So so Def is very dear to me.
It's very dear to my heartBecause, if anybody knows, I
love me some Jermaine Dupri, theman.
(02:46):
He can write.
He writes nothing but classics.
What he say, I write the songsthat the whole world sings.
He ain't wrong either.
He ain't that man ain't wrongthat man got some joints.
Hell, we could do just a fiveof Jermaine Dupri songs that
ain't got, songs that he justwrote or produced or whatnot in.
(03:06):
It could be a completelydifferent topic.
I was going to give JermaineDupri his flannel, so this is my
opportunity to do that.
We're going to get into the bag.
Honestly, I'll be beginning.
How do we start?
Do we start with artists or dowe start with songs?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think we start with songs.
Okay, cool we're.
Do we start with artists?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
or do we start with songs?
I think we start with songs.
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
So, all right, we're going togive our top five songs each of
us, like I said on.
So so Def and Deion asked somequestions pretty fast, so why
don't you ask them now so we canaddress?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
them.
Yeah, man, because you know Iwas doing my research pretty
much all day.
I was in work, while I was inthis press box, I was just
looking up social death stuff.
Even on my ride home found me asocial death playlist on
Spotify, listening to it, tryingto get myself re-familiar
Because I knew the songs, but Ididn't know, with these labels
(03:57):
you really don't be knowingwho's with who.
So you got to re-familiar.
So that was some stuff.
That was a song out there Imentioned, mentioned it a little
bit, since we're on songs butDomain Pre produced it.
It was kind of under the guy.
There was a guy, the mainperson on the song.
He was under the umbrella of soso Def, but it was distributed
(04:21):
by a different label and it's areally good song.
It's one of those songs yousing a lot.
You lose your breath on whenyou sing it.
But I was like damn, I don'tknow if it counts, so I wrote it
there.
I just put a question markwhere Dupree produced it.
So I don't know, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We all know the song you're talking about.
We ain't gonna say it.
We all know the song you'retalking about.
We ain't going to say it, butwe all know the song you're
talking about.
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, butyeah, we're good.
So we did say if the song, ifthe person was managed or if the
person produced it, then yeah,we'll let it ride.
Typically, I don't, I be tryingnot to, so that's what I'm
saying, not to.
So that's what I'm saying.
I got some songs thattechnically Jermaine Dupri did,
(05:08):
but they're not actual.
So so, def songs.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Because this song wasn't in the playlist but it
was under that artist's top hits.
I was like damn, but he waswith that group, but you was
with that late mother.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's like that because it's a particular person
.
So, yeah, we're going to getinto the bag.
Alright, man, we're going tostart off with songs.
Dion, we're going to let you gofirst.
Give us your top five.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
We're going to talk about your five.
after the fact we're going tolet you go first.
Top five.
First up, when I looked at thelist of who was in, so, so Def.
First name that showed up wasEscape and the first song I
thought of was who Can I Run To?
That song's a banger.
It never gets skipped in my car.
I be singing it loud as hell inmy car, in my privacy of my own
(06:01):
home, when I'm by myself.
So I had to put who Can I RunTo, because it's a banger.
It is um.
Next up was by them, franchiseboys.
The franchise boys was mychildhood and I had to put lean
with it, rock with it.
You can't go wrong with leanwith it, rock with it.
It was.
It was just that song.
And then there's another song.
(06:23):
I have personally seen fightsget started when this song plays
in the club and some collegeparties, but never scared by
bone crusher and ti and the songthat I was somewhat talking
about earlier.
What was talking about earlier?
Like you, by bow Wow and Sierra.
(06:44):
People have probably passed outtrying to sing this song.
You can't go wrong.
And then it was last song myman, yeah.
Last song, where's the Party At?
(07:05):
By Jagged Edge.
Those are the five songs thatwhen I was listening to the
playlist, that gravitated to andit brought back some memories
from my childhood, because thisis part of my childhood too.
They started in the 90s andobviously I was born in 96, but
when I was listening to music,these was my songs, I feel it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Nah, I my songs.
I feel it.
Nah, I feel it.
I'm not going to judge you toomuch.
I do the escape song that youchose.
I think.
I mean I would have went adifferent route.
Okay, that's just me.
Will you got anything aboutDiaz Lee?
Nah, it's a saucy thing, whichmeans a priest, but that's just
me.
Will you got anything aboutDeion's list?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Nah, it's the same thing with Jermaine Dupri.
Everybody's list is going tohave a hit or two that
everybody's list didn't have, soI'm cool with his list.
I understand what you're saying.
Growing up to that shit.
It shocked me when he said hewas 196 because I was nine.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I will be deferring to you guys because a lot of the
songs because this was itstarted in 93 when I was looking
it up, 93 to they lasted toabout 20, their 25th anniversary
was in what was it?
18, 17?
It was something three.
Because they started in 90.
Oh yeah, 18.
Was it 18, 17?
It was something 3, becausethey started in 18, right, so
(08:30):
their 25th anniversary wasn'tthat long ago.
So I'm going to defer to youguys because the songs came out
when you guys was coming up.
I had to go back and listen tosome of these songs in my
earlier days.
These wasn't my childhood, butthey was my childhood, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, we ain't judging you, it's probably like
your clean up songs like peoplewould put on.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, yeah yeah, Nah, we talking about clean up songs
.
We going a little bit furtherback.
My grandma was born in 37.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, so you say your grandma.
I figured if your mom wascleaning then you would have
been maybe on some 90s shit.
I get you because my mom wouldplay that old shit too, but she
wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
My mom didn't really play that.
Everybody else's mom had that.
It's like, if I tell you it'slike Gerald LaVert and the
Vandross.
At the time though I guess theywas old, but not old old, you
know what I mean.
Gerald LaVert was just poppingin?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, that was in that day, though that was making
music at that time.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, that's why I said my mama didn't really play
the old stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
My mama played like the Marvin Gays and the Lenny
Williams and, like you know, theold stuff, commodores and so
Commodore.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
yeah, I know about the Commodores.
I Commodores, Commodore.
Yeah, I know about theCommodores.
I know a little bit about theCommodores.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
See, my mama didn't play that stuff.
Like I said, she played Lutherand Gerald.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But if you ever want to hear good music, I suggest
you just pull it up on yourfavorite streaming service.
Just do Motown.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I know the noise, but my list is valid.
My list is valid.
Yeah, your list is valid, yeahyour list is valid.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool, ain't no?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
problem with it.
Let's move.
It's a song.
Like Will said, it's a song.
I want to see if Will going tohave the song, because it's a
song that I think should be oneverybody's list, but I want to
see if Will get it.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
So Will shut up.
Okay, mine's good.
You know that's the thing aboutJD.
You know you've got a lot ofhits.
Two people can go with fivedifferent songs and not be the
same.
I got Money in the Thing, himand Jay-Z in 98.
That was.
(10:36):
I remember the video, themriding through town Doing
everything they was saying.
It was cool, I remember that.
2000.
The let's I remember that 2000,.
The let's Get Married remix,run DMC Jagged Edge.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I thought about putting that one.
I thought about putting thatone.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
See, that's the thing I'm telling you.
We all could go back and forthwhat's your Light with the Brat
and Tyrese 2000.
And then I got S3.
I got I guess this one was justa little bit not fully so-so
(11:18):
death type song, so let's kindof put the asterisk next to it,
because this one was justproduced, he just produced the
remix, and that, to me, is sointo you, okay.
So that's what four?
And my fifth one is also a songthat he just produced, he
(11:43):
co-produced we Belong Togetherby Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
He co-produced.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We Belong Together by .
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Mariah Carey he co-produced that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, I might have to do some changing around in this
thing because he co-producedthat he talked about stuff that
my mom played while cleaning.
That was number one, two andthree.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, that Anticipation of Mimi Mariah
Carey CD.
That was Jermaine Dupri.
I ain't even gonna say JermaineDupri, that was also a death
production.
See, that's what I'm saying.
Will just came out with a bunchof songs that was just Jermaine
Dupri.
That was not so.
So Death, that was not released.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
See that you know those were.
It's not released.
See that you know those are alleither Jermaine Dupri or so so
Def was behind.
You know those classics.
So yeah, I mean, jermaine Dupriis so so Def, so everything he
does is technically so so Def.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Technically yes, all right man, so here go my here go
my five.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So, here go my five.
Like I said, I try to giveeverything that was released
through, so so Delf.
So first is my fifth.
One is, like Will said what doyou like?
That was when for me I can'tspeak for y'all I seen Da Brat
in a totally different lightwhen that video came out.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh yeah, she was a girl I wanted to Different from.
I'm sorry y'all, I don't wantto go back.
I really meant to put this onthere but I didn't.
But I wanted to functify.
Yeah yeah, she was differentfrom that rep for me, that's why
I mentioned it.
What you like, she was on thatbeach and I so like, and that's
(13:25):
why I mentioned it, and what youlike, she was, you know, on
that beach and I was like, ohshit, that's Lisa Simpson.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Look, that's Lisa Simpson.
Look, I see it now.
You know what I mean.
I see it now.
I see why Allen Iverson was youknow, you know what I'm saying
crazy about that woman.
Yeah, I know, I seen it.
I seen it.
Oh, all right, number four so,like Dion said, them Franchise
Boys.
Usually, like I was in middleschool, them Franchise Boys
(13:52):
joint came out.
They had a different vibe forme, they had a completely
different vibe for me, but forme the one that I rocked with
was the actually was the YTremix with Bow Wow and the Brand
, and then, of course, jd was onit too.
(14:13):
So yeah, that one Don't get mewrong, it was Laying with a rock
, with it holds a special for mebecause me and my cousin, we
always do the, we always do thedance right, we always yeah, we
(14:34):
always did the dance.
So it was a thing, it was.
It's like a special, it's likea special memory for me.
But nah, that YT remix you knowwhat I'm saying which, like I,
which August said Bow Wow toBrad, jd was dope.
Number three for me is when DaParty At.
(14:56):
Number two is let's GetMurdered remix.
Honorable mention isUnderstanding Baskate.
Let me get that out before I goto my number one, because
neither one of y'all had thisone.
My number one is Charlene byAnthony Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Hmm, charlene, you can't go wrong.
I'll mention it later, but yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah, I love Anthony Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Some health later, but yeah, yeah, that's a good
one.
Yeah, I love me some.
Anthony Hamilton, though, andCharlene I'm sure that song.
I actually was on the road andsomebody was at home waiting on
me.
You know what I'm saying.
I really took that song Like Ihad a woman at home.
Hold on, not White Team Remix.
(15:42):
I think they like Remix.
My bad, it's not a woman athome.
Hold on, not YT Remix.
I think they like me Remix.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
My bad it's not YT Remix, I think they like me
Remix.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Sorry, with Bow Wow JD, I kept like it's not the YT
Remix, it's not the song, whatis the name of that damn song?
I think they like me Remix.
Okay, that's my number four.
Like I said, they like me remix.
Okay, that's my number four.
Like I said, where you uh, thethe breath preaching tyrese's
(16:09):
five.
Oh, I think they like me remix.
Uh, where the party at let'sget married remix.
And then charlene, I lovecharlene.
Like I said, honorabledimension understanding.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So so none of y'all got never scared.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It started on the list, but it just kept going
down.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Because no cap, though?
Because when I was listening tothe playlist and that never
scared us oh, this is socialdeath Played about four or five
times in the car.
That was one of them.
Songs, man, hey.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And he think I'm a punk.
Yeah, nah it, it was.
It started.
So when I was working on thislist, I was talking to my girls
about it and we was.
We was going through all thesongs and that song came out.
Like I said, it came, it was onthe list, but it still.
It started bumping its way down.
It just started bumping its waydown.
It just started bumping its waydown.
The Young Blood song that LilJon produced.
(17:07):
I can't think of the name ofthat damn song, but the Young
Bloods album came out on so soDel.
He had to reinvent himself alittle bit.
Damn, that's the name of thesong.
Damn Damn came out on so soDamn, but it is, you know what
I'm saying.
Like that, and they ain't neverscared, they're not making the
(17:27):
list.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, at least for me.
All right, ben, let's go to.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Ghost Town DJs.
That my boo.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
We ain't mention Chris Cross on either.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That my boo that.
Ain't mention Chris Cross oneither.
You know that my boo that ghosttown DJ.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You know that made a resurgence, especially when
TikTok got going.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That made a resurgence.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
All right, let's go to albums.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Okay.
So the album's a little bittough.
The album kind of coincideswith artists for me.
But first off, my first one.
I started out with Beware ofthe Dog.
We're going to talk about himin a little bit.
Shout out to my man, bow Wow.
Actually, today is his birthday, so shout out to Bow Wow.
(18:17):
So I had to put Beware of theDog because Bow Wow, he was
probably making them so muchmoney for so, so Def and I don't
know he was better when he waslittle Bow Wow in terms of the
music he was producing than hewas with Bow Wow.
But when he was little Bow Wowhe was so, so Def.
And I got off the hook, as I'llsay, with Escape On top of our
(18:42):
game.
And then I put Jagged LittleThrill Okay, so I had to put
that one.
And then the last one was toughfor me.
So I really was like I don'tknow what I should do.
I really was like I don't knowwhat I should do.
(19:05):
So I just like I thought aboutputting this other group on
there, but I was like they wasmore good before they got with
him.
So I just went with AnthonyHamilton, coming from where I'm
from.
You said it like it was aletdown.
No, it's not a letdown, butit's like that's just the one I
went with, coming from where I'mfrom, because I was like damn,
anthony Hillman's a dude who gotthem hits.
(19:26):
I got to put him on the list.
So that's why I mean songs is alittle bit different than
artists and albums, because it'sjust that one song, the body of
work of these people, the bodyof work of the album, the body
of work of the song, coming fromwhere I'm from, I had to put it
on the list.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I feel it.
You said it like it was anepitome.
You barely made the list.
That's how I'm saying.
It Will what you get.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
This is artists or albums, albums, albums okay For
albums, man I wasn't ready for.
Okay for albums man I wasn't.
I was ready for artists.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Let's see, I gotta, I couldn't remember the order in
which we did them, so I was likeI would start out yeah, that's
fine, I just got my thing realquick, real fast.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
My man look, nah, he's trying.
Oh duh, I just got my thingycamp on real quick, real fast.
My man look, ah, nah, he'strying.
Oh duh, because the albums itgets me because, like you said,
it's one of those things wherehe was involved with albums, but
not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, you got to look at that body to work it out,
Because some of them albums.
They got one good song or twogood songs.
That ain't going to cut it fora good album.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
But, like you said, the anticipation of Mimi, when
Mariah Carey drops, it wouldhave been in the top five for
real.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, I would have put that if it was a full social
year.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, but Jermaine Dupri produced most of it, so it
kind of is a full-sourced Adele.
Look all the songs you think offrom that album.
Jermaine Dupri did that wholealbum was fire, bro, my mom had.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It had that thing on replay.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And technically again , if we're talking about
producing credit, jermaine Dupridid Confessions.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, I was gonna say but we didn't put that the song
on any of the you know songlist, so it's kind of like you
gonna put the album on the albumlist yeah, no, I was gonna say
I ain't gonna do it, but if we,being like you, like we said,
being technical- yeah, oh yeah,technically yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Jermaine Dupri cooked all that stuff up him and Brian
Michael Cox, they cooked allthat stuff up and uh what's his
name?
Austin, justin Austin.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Forgive me if I'm pronouncing his name wrong yeah,
so, uh, on the albums, um, I'mgonna to go with I got to go
with that crisscross.
I was thinking about it, but Icouldn't do it Four times
(22:14):
platinum.
You got to give them props forthat, even if you know you
missed it or whatever.
My list is older.
You know I'm going to go withthe Beware Dog for Bad Wild
Album.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I liked that, I'm sorry which Chris Cross album
did you put again?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Chris Cross the Totally Crossed Out okay yeah,
92, that's the one that had ajump on it.
It was.
It was platinum not tointerrupt.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I would have put that one, but when I was looking it
up they said so so Def didn'tstart until 93, so I discluded
anything before 93 from thiscross.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That's great.
Jd found them at a mall.
They just sold them around.
So yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But yeah, it comes up as one of his most notable
albums, released from the label.
So that's why I included it,totally crossed out.
And then the Beware Dog, theFranchise Boys.
Because of the amount of steamthey had, I think you got to put
(23:45):
that what's that?
On the top of my game.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And then Jagged Edge.
I like that, je Heartbreak.
Well, let's Get Married andPromise on there.
Yes, and what's that four?
Yeah, chris Cross, bow Wow,french Shot.
Jagged Edge.
Yeah, I'm not going to go withthe Escape album, I'll go with
(24:17):
the Bratz Funko 5.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Okay, All right, yeah , I feel it my five.
So I am going to go with theBratz Funko 5.
Okay, Alright, yeah, I feel itmy 5, so I am going to go with
the Escape album.
But I actually am going to gowith the first Escape album,
which is Humming, Coming At youI'm assuming it's supposed to be
saying I'm coming at you, butit's stories of the age.
But my fourth one is On Top OfOur Games.
Like I said, French Boys justhad a whole good vibe to me when
(24:39):
it's on top of our game.
Like I said, French Boys Boysjust had a whole good vibe to me
.
Coming where I'm from is three.
He's Anthony Hamilton.
You know what I'm saying.
Beware of Dog is two.
And then JE Hartberg is one,which I could have put a bunch
of Jagged Edge albums on thislist.
I was trying not to put anotherJagged Edge album on this list
(25:00):
because Know me on my R&B headand then I love me some Jagged
Edge, so Jagged's a littlethrill.
It was about to be my numberfive but I purposely switched
the Escape and was like Becausethen I started looking at the
Escape and I started listeningto it and I'm like, damn, I know
all these songs.
I'm going to put this at five,even though Jagger looked real,
(25:21):
if I'm being truthful.
If I'm being truthful, itprobably is five for real,
because I remember where I wasat with Bow Wow, so I can't move
Bow Wow then.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
No, you can't because I'm going to talk about it in a
little bit, but I know that manwas doing his thing in the late
90s, early 2000s.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, I can't move.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I can't.
You know.
Like I said, I wasn't.
Did I put Bow Wow on my list?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, you did we all had Bow Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I can't exclude Bow Wow.
I might not necessarily agreewith some of the lighter work he
did, where he got real thuggy.
It's like, bro, we've beenwatching you since you was.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's regular Bow Wow.
Little Bow Wow is who we talkto Regular Bow Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Here's the thing, though JD's always been an
influence in his life.
True, I say JD contributed to alot of his life.
Now, they did have that riff,you know what I mean.
They argued on social media andthings like that.
But yeah, so Bow Wow is foreverconnected to so so Def for me.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, bow Wow is, yeah, it just is what it is.
You can't look at Bow Wow andnot see so, so Def.
I ain't gonna lie.
Like you said, a lot of BowWow's later work like Freshers
and Zombies, one of my favoritesongs.
Polo McCullum, my bass, playerhour as later work like freshers
, I'm is one of my favoritesongs.
Paul and mccullough, my bass,those weren't.
Those weren't technically alsoso deaf, but fresh in my
(26:48):
expression, fresh as I'm is hadjay kwan on the hook, which was
old scientist, also deaf, whichI forgot about.
Hood hop, uh, I mean not hoodhop tips.
Hood hop was the album tips.
I forgot about Tipsy.
That's a good song.
I forgot to list it as myhonorable mention on the song.
Also, dad and Jagged Edge,goodbye Again.
(27:09):
I could just put a bunch ofJagged Edge in a verse, but
Tipsy and Goodbye, I forgot tomention them too as honorable
mentions.
So first, like I said, bow Wow.
To Will's point, bow Wow hasalways been in the Jermaine
Dupri studios making his albums,even if he wasn't.
But you know the story behindthat is, bow Wow left Columbia.
I mean not Bow Wow.
Jd took so so Death fromColumbia.
(27:31):
Columbia was like, yeah, youcan go, but you're not taking
Bow Wow and Jagged Edge.
So he left the label out sohe's able to take the bread and
he, you know.
Then he was able to rebrandhimself.
That's where your bone thug,that's your bone thugs, your
bone crushers, your young bloods, your franchise boys, all those
people come in.
It's like act two of it.
(27:52):
But you know, it's just, that'sthe original.
Sus of death is the originalSosa Def.
So, speaking of the originalSosa Def, let's get into artists
.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
So I mean, we already talked about it Bow Wow is
definitely on the top five.
Little Bow Wow at least.
He's definitely on the top five, he's on mine at least.
So I'm going to go ahead andmention it.
Little Bow Wow I got JaggedEdge, I got them Franchise Boys
and I got Anthony Hamilton S4.
Now I got a coupleunder-initial.
(28:25):
I would have put Criss Cross inthis, but again, when I was
looking it up, jump came out in92, so so Defnits starts in 93,
so I kind of just excluded them.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They had another project that came out afterwards
.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, but it wasn't Jump, it wasn't Jump, it wasn't
Jump, it wasn't Jump.
I'm just saying it wasn't Jump.
I was thinking about Escape,and then we talked about it
earlier.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But see it says crisscross on the list because
it says that Jump was so.
So Death's first song, Firstnumber one song.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
If that's the case, they own her.
But I was thinking about Escape.
And then I was also thinkingand this is depending on what
you guys say it only saidmanagement, but TLC was listed
as an artist under theirumbrella and if y'all gonna
count TLC, they in the top five,I don't care what y'all say.
(29:27):
And then that changes a littlebit too, because you gotta go
put Chasing Waterfalls somewherein that top five songs.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I guess the thing would be like was Chasing
Waterfalls released?
When was that released?
When they was under hismanagement.
The thing would be like wasChastin Waterfalls released?
When was that released?
When that was under hismanagement yeah, that would be
the question if that wasn't,then I mean he really ain't
gonna do those.
That's why I didn't include TLC, because I wasn't sure if no
(29:59):
scrubs and some of the other.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So no scrubs came out somewhere because I wasn't sure
if no Scrubs and some of theother.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
So no Scrubs came out somewhere between like 99.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Water Balls came out in like 94.
At least, it came out in thatalbum in 94.
Don't necessarily know when.
Let me look at that.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
When it was managed.
I mean, I didn't know, I didn'tdo the research.
I just kind of was like okay,well, Like when I looked up it
just said it had him listed.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Then in parentheses it said management.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
So yeah, yeah, because technically he had a lot
, like I said, because I know atone point too he had a lot of
influence on the industry.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, true, he was just kind of he was a hit maker.
Labels would pay him to come inand consult.
You, feel me.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
So Bow Wow, Jagger is Franchise Boyz, Anthony
Hamilton and then, since we'reputting Jump in the category,
I'm going to put Chris Cross.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
It's a name.
I'm going to let you slidebecause of your age.
I'm going to get on your headin a minute, All right Will go
ahead with your one.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
This is artists right , Yep.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah artists.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
So I did my artists more on a.
I didn't include some of theones that I know he worked with
a lot.
I know he worked a lot withMariah.
I know he worked a lot withUsher and people like that.
I just kind of, like Deion said, you try to stick to the ones
that says that he directly, youknow, was with them when they
had that big hit and, you know,kept them going.
(31:46):
Criss-cross Mine's in no order,like my whole list has been the
whole show.
Every list has been the show.
No order.
Y'all Same same.
Put that in order.
Y'all want to Criss-cross?
I'm going to go with JaggedEdge Because of my age and the
(32:06):
time and, like I said, the bratwas just, like you know, a big
artist to me, so I'm going to gowith the brat.
I'm going to put Bad Wild onthe list out of respect, because
I know the type of numbers hedid and just deserve to be on
the list and because theybrought him to fame.
(32:28):
I didn't include his songs onany of my other lists because I
just didn't feel like weassociated him with so.
So, jeff, but y'all you know,brought it to my light, y'all
persuaded me, I took somebodyoff the list and added Anthony
Hamilton.
Okay, all right, cool, buty'all you know, followed to my
light Y'all persuaded me, I tooksomebody off the list and added
Anthony Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Okay, alright, cool, so I think I'm, yeah, I'm gonna
get on your head a little bit.
You did a SoSoDev Top 5 Artistright, and you didn't mention
the Brat.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I didn't mention the Brat in anything because I ain't
gonna lie to you I'm notfamiliar.
I didn't mention it, brad, inanything because I ain't going
to lie to you I'm not familiar.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I'm not familiar, I will be tonight in about two
hours, but I wasn't familiar.
There's no so-so deal with itafter Brad, okay.
So when I was making this listand I was sitting there and I
was thinking, like I said we wastalking about it as a matter of
fact, we was at a party andwhen I was putting the list
(33:23):
together, after I had listenedto the music and I was like you
can't do so so Def artistswithout Jagged Edge, bow Wow and
the Brand, them three.
You have to put them three onthe list because that is what
you when you think of so.
So for me at least, what Iwould assume people would do
when you think of Social Death,any of the three people you
think of is Bow Wow, da Brand,jagged Edge.
(33:45):
You can go off the other two.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You can blame my age.
I'm not familiar with her work,but I will get familiar with
her work in about two hours.
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
DI.
It wasn't like she had a hugeimpact, but some would say it
wasn't like there was a catalogthat you could go and be like.
Oh, I'm going to go on a bingeand go crazy on the black.
I don't know man, she has anice amount of time.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
While we're here, I need one song from each of y'all
that I should listen to while Itake my shower tonight.
One song from each of y'allthat I should listen to while I
take my shower tonight, Well goahead.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I would start with Funtify.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Funtify would be the one.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Come on, quentin, you made that face when he said he
was going to study or listen fortwo hours.
He'll be familiar in two hoursfrom now.
That was more than enough timeto get familiar with the break.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying okay, I'm notsaying the Bray is Beyonce, but
what I'm saying is, when youthink of so, so Del in that
light.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
She's Beyonce.
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I'm not saying.
I'm not saying Well, what Val?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
might be Val might be Beyonce and the Bray might be
Beyonce and the Brad might beKelly, maybe Michelle, and then
crisscross is Kelly.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
That's all I'm saying .
That's all I'm saying in thissituation, but so, like I said I
do.
I typically rank mine.
My five would have been Skate,my four is Anthony Hamilton.
My four is Anthony Hamilton.
My three is Da Brad.
My two is Jagged Edge.
My one is Bow Wow, because I'ma fan of Bow Wow's Bow Wow We'll
see what you saying you put upthe numbers, you can argue with
(35:28):
the numbers.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I did Just off screen a little bit.
We're not trying to get introuble.
I did listen to a couple notesof the Fuck Defy.
I've heard the chorus of thatsong.
I'm trying to remember.
It had to have been a movie orsomething.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You probably just heard it growing up, because it
was like a.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I heard the chorus of that song.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It was one of those songs that when they played they
played it.
You know you turn the radiodown or skip the station or go
to the next track.
You kind of played thatFunctified when it came out.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I'm sure I Go to the next track.
You kind of played that fromthe time it came out.
I'm sure I think it was on oneof the Nickelodeon shows at the
end where they did performances.
There might have been anotherplace where you heard that, but
I don't know if it was Kenan andKel or Owl Lab.
But I want to say they did dothat on one of them shows.
I don't know.
But yeah, that's all I forget.
Tipsy goes hard.
I just want to say it.
(36:20):
Tipsy goes hard, and so doesDamn by the Young Bloods.
But yeah, man Dion, Iappreciate you.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
No problem Anytime.
I mean I'm sure you gotsomething else Going on next
week.
What other label you going tonext week?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
No, I got to talk about.
I got to talk to that.
I got to talk to Will Aboutthat post.
I got to ask Will, but no idea.
I appreciate you Will MrBreakglass himself.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
thank you, sir, no problem man Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
No worries, man, y'all know what it is.
Thank y'all for listening toanother episode of Hold Up and
another thing presented by MixedVibes Media.
By now y'all should know thevibes.
Make sure y'all check out.
From my Perspective, we dropevery Friday.
Get y'all sports intake on thatand whatnot.
Ho, please, I said what I said.
(37:12):
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You know that's Big Sus, that'sFamily Over Earth.
Make sure y'all check that out.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
That pod's absolutely awesome, Like I'll be waiting
on Edge for the next episode.
Man, you got to tell them Ineed two a week.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, man, two a week is a lot.
They record.
You think two's a week a lot.
Wait till I talk to youpost-pod.
It did, of course, listen tothe Mixed Vibes podcast and then
listen to Distant Combos withK&S.
I know they're recording.
I think they got some stuffcoming out real, real, real soon
.
Yeah, man, thank y'all.
(37:50):
Appreciate y'all for listening.
Like I said, make sure y'all goget y'all some Mixed Vibes.
Merch, why not have some vibes?
You know what I'm saying.
We're going to catch y'all.
Hey, man want to do what it is.
You're on another Vaz, it'syour boy, mr Bell aka, I can't
say your name off the spot,might not put you to mock
Actually.
So I'm going to try this newaka aka out on y'all.
I was listening, I imagine Iget everything from glow
nowadays.
Glow heavy, big Q, not thelittle one.
(00:23):
A glow heavy Big Q, not thelittle one.
How does that?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
ride.
I fucks with it.
Big Q, not the little one, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I fucks with it.
That's cool, but some people goassociated with your weight
though.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
The weight is what the weight is Ain't no shit in
the world right.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We living in the moment, we living happy, however
we presenting ourselves, thenfuck with it.
Then Big Q nigga.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Big Q, not the little one you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You a little in some days, though Sometimes you got a
little nigga energy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Not on no day.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hey, the days are in with why nigga?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hey, hey that't get carried away, Get carried away.
Oh man, y'all heard the voices,but first Mr Bergless himself
just made some money.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, period when I filed my taxes, I just went
ahead and put you down forcharity work.
I need to hit up my tax lien.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I'll be forgetting.
I put you down for charity andI got a nice deduction for you.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Okay, I was going to say you should have found me as
a dependent, as much as I dependon you to do these vibes.
But yeah, mr Berkley askedhimself.
Oh man, you know my dog, my dog.
Man, you know the host from myperspective, what up?
Dm?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Hey, I'm doing good.
Hey, just know it.
I know it in the sports podcast, but NFL offseason going crazy
already and my team ain't doingnothing.
I just want to let you know weain't doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But does your team ever do that we?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
don't, but I was hoping.
I had hope.
Maybe we did something.
All we did something.
All we did was restructurecontracts, that's it, and sign
them.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It saved y'all some money.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Nothing too exciting today.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Ain't no wow factor.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Ain't no wow factor in that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
No, I want some players to get me excited, but I
guess I got to wait till thedraft.
But that's neither here northere.
We'll talk about that next weekweek we will.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
We've been ranking the greatness, taking different
labels, and we've been rankingthem and giving them speaking of
them from our perspective, whattheir best albums are the best
artists on that label, the bestmusic on that label.
So we're here to do so, so Def.
So so Def is very dear to me.
It's very dear to my heartBecause, if anybody knows, I
love me some Jermaine Dupri, theman.
(02:46):
He can write.
He writes nothing but classics.
What he say, I write the songsthat the whole world sings.
He ain't wrong either.
He ain't that man ain't wrongthat man got some joints.
Hell, we could do just a fiveof Jermaine Dupri songs that
ain't got, songs that he justwrote or produced or whatnot in.
(03:06):
It could be a completelydifferent topic.
I was going to give JermaineDupri his flannel, so this is my
opportunity to do that.
We're going to get into the bag.
Honestly, I'll be beginning.
How do we start?
Do we start with artists or dowe start with songs?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think we start with songs.
Okay, cool we're.
Do we start with artists?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
or do we start with songs?
I think we start with songs.
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
So, all right, we're going togive our top five songs each of
us, like I said on.
So so Def and Deion asked somequestions pretty fast, so why
don't you ask them now so we canaddress?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
them.
Yeah, man, because you know Iwas doing my research pretty
much all day.
I was in work, while I was inthis press box, I was just
looking up social death stuff.
Even on my ride home found me asocial death playlist on
Spotify, listening to it, tryingto get myself re-familiar
Because I knew the songs, but Ididn't know, with these labels
(03:57):
you really don't be knowingwho's with who.
So you got to re-familiar.
So that was some stuff.
That was a song out there Imentioned, mentioned it a little
bit, since we're on songs butDomain Pre produced it.
It was kind of under the guy.
There was a guy, the mainperson on the song.
He was under the umbrella of soso Def, but it was distributed
(04:21):
by a different label and it's areally good song.
It's one of those songs yousing a lot.
You lose your breath on whenyou sing it.
But I was like damn, I don'tknow if it counts, so I wrote it
there.
I just put a question markwhere Dupree produced it.
So I don't know, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We all know the song you're talking about.
We ain't gonna say it.
We all know the song you'retalking about.
We ain't going to say it, butwe all know the song you're
talking about.
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, butyeah, we're good.
So we did say if the song, ifthe person was managed or if the
person produced it, then yeah,we'll let it ride.
Typically, I don't, I be tryingnot to, so that's what I'm
saying, not to.
So that's what I'm saying.
I got some songs thattechnically Jermaine Dupri did,
(05:08):
but they're not actual.
So so, def songs.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Because this song wasn't in the playlist but it
was under that artist's top hits.
I was like damn, but he waswith that group, but you was
with that late mother.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's like that because it's a particular person
.
So, yeah, we're going to getinto the bag.
Alright, man, we're going tostart off with songs.
Dion, we're going to let you gofirst.
Give us your top five.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
We're going to talk about your five.
after the fact we're going tolet you go first.
Top five.
First up, when I looked at thelist of who was in, so, so Def.
First name that showed up wasEscape and the first song I
thought of was who Can I Run To?
That song's a banger.
It never gets skipped in my car.
I be singing it loud as hell inmy car, in my privacy of my own
(06:01):
home, when I'm by myself.
So I had to put who Can I RunTo, because it's a banger.
It is um.
Next up was by them, franchiseboys.
The franchise boys was mychildhood and I had to put lean
with it, rock with it.
You can't go wrong with leanwith it, rock with it.
It was.
It was just that song.
And then there's another song.
(06:23):
I have personally seen fightsget started when this song plays
in the club and some collegeparties, but never scared by
bone crusher and ti and the songthat I was somewhat talking
about earlier.
What was talking about earlier?
Like you, by bow Wow and Sierra.
(06:44):
People have probably passed outtrying to sing this song.
You can't go wrong.
And then it was last song myman, yeah.
Last song, where's the Party At?
(07:05):
By Jagged Edge.
Those are the five songs thatwhen I was listening to the
playlist, that gravitated to andit brought back some memories
from my childhood, because thisis part of my childhood too.
They started in the 90s andobviously I was born in 96, but
when I was listening to music,these was my songs, I feel it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Nah, I my songs.
I feel it.
Nah, I feel it.
I'm not going to judge you toomuch.
I do the escape song that youchose.
I think.
I mean I would have went adifferent route.
Okay, that's just me.
Will you got anything aboutDiaz Lee?
Nah, it's a saucy thing, whichmeans a priest, but that's just
me.
Will you got anything aboutDeion's list?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Nah, it's the same thing with Jermaine Dupri.
Everybody's list is going tohave a hit or two that
everybody's list didn't have, soI'm cool with his list.
I understand what you're saying.
Growing up to that shit.
It shocked me when he said hewas 196 because I was nine.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I will be deferring to you guys because a lot of the
songs because this was itstarted in 93 when I was looking
it up, 93 to they lasted toabout 20, their 25th anniversary
was in what was it?
18, 17?
It was something three.
Because they started in 90.
Oh yeah, 18.
Was it 18, 17?
It was something 3, becausethey started in 18, right, so
(08:30):
their 25th anniversary wasn'tthat long ago.
So I'm going to defer to youguys because the songs came out
when you guys was coming up.
I had to go back and listen tosome of these songs in my
earlier days.
These wasn't my childhood, butthey was my childhood, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, we ain't judging you, it's probably like
your clean up songs like peoplewould put on.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, yeah yeah, Nah, we talking about clean up songs
.
We going a little bit furtherback.
My grandma was born in 37.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, so you say your grandma.
I figured if your mom wascleaning then you would have
been maybe on some 90s shit.
I get you because my mom wouldplay that old shit too, but she
wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
My mom didn't really play that.
Everybody else's mom had that.
It's like, if I tell you it'slike Gerald LaVert and the
Vandross.
At the time though I guess theywas old, but not old old, you
know what I mean.
Gerald LaVert was just poppingin?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, that was in that day, though that was making
music at that time.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, that's why I said my mama didn't really play
the old stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
My mama played like the Marvin Gays and the Lenny
Williams and, like you know, theold stuff, commodores and so
Commodore.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
yeah, I know about the Commodores.
I Commodores, Commodore.
Yeah, I know about theCommodores.
I know a little bit about theCommodores.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
See, my mama didn't play that stuff.
Like I said, she played Lutherand Gerald.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But if you ever want to hear good music, I suggest
you just pull it up on yourfavorite streaming service.
Just do Motown.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I know the noise, but my list is valid.
My list is valid.
Yeah, your list is valid, yeahyour list is valid.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool, ain't no?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
problem with it.
Let's move.
It's a song.
Like Will said, it's a song.
I want to see if Will going tohave the song, because it's a
song that I think should be oneverybody's list, but I want to
see if Will get it.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
So Will shut up.
Okay, mine's good.
You know that's the thing aboutJD.
You know you've got a lot ofhits.
Two people can go with fivedifferent songs and not be the
same.
I got Money in the Thing, himand Jay-Z in 98.
That was.
(10:36):
I remember the video, themriding through town Doing
everything they was saying.
It was cool, I remember that.
2000.
The let's I remember that 2000,.
The let's Get Married remix,run DMC Jagged Edge.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I thought about putting that one.
I thought about putting thatone.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
See, that's the thing I'm telling you.
We all could go back and forthwhat's your Light with the Brat
and Tyrese 2000.
And then I got S3.
I got I guess this one was justa little bit not fully so-so
(11:18):
death type song, so let's kindof put the asterisk next to it,
because this one was justproduced, he just produced the
remix, and that, to me, is sointo you, okay.
So that's what four?
And my fifth one is also a songthat he just produced, he
(11:43):
co-produced we Belong Togetherby Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
He co-produced.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We Belong Together by .
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Mariah Carey he co-produced that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, I might have to do some changing around in this
thing because he co-producedthat he talked about stuff that
my mom played while cleaning.
That was number one, two andthree.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, that Anticipation of Mimi Mariah
Carey CD.
That was Jermaine Dupri.
I ain't even gonna say JermaineDupri, that was also a death
production.
See, that's what I'm saying.
Will just came out with a bunchof songs that was just Jermaine
Dupri.
That was not so.
So Death, that was not released.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
See that you know those were.
It's not released.
See that you know those are alleither Jermaine Dupri or so so
Def was behind.
You know those classics.
So yeah, I mean, jermaine Dupriis so so Def, so everything he
does is technically so so Def.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Technically yes, all right man, so here go my here go
my five.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So, here go my five.
Like I said, I try to giveeverything that was released
through, so so Delf.
So first is my fifth.
One is, like Will said what doyou like?
That was when for me I can'tspeak for y'all I seen Da Brat
in a totally different lightwhen that video came out.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh yeah, she was a girl I wanted to Different from.
I'm sorry y'all, I don't wantto go back.
I really meant to put this onthere but I didn't.
But I wanted to functify.
Yeah yeah, she was differentfrom that rep for me, that's why
I mentioned it.
What you like, she was on thatbeach and I so like, and that's
(13:25):
why I mentioned it, and what youlike, she was, you know, on
that beach and I was like, ohshit, that's Lisa Simpson.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Look, that's Lisa Simpson.
Look, I see it now.
You know what I mean.
I see it now.
I see why Allen Iverson was youknow, you know what I'm saying
crazy about that woman.
Yeah, I know, I seen it.
I seen it.
Oh, all right, number four so,like Dion said, them Franchise
Boys.
Usually, like I was in middleschool, them Franchise Boys
(13:52):
joint came out.
They had a different vibe forme, they had a completely
different vibe for me, but forme the one that I rocked with
was the actually was the YTremix with Bow Wow and the Brand
, and then, of course, jd was onit too.
(14:13):
So yeah, that one Don't get mewrong, it was Laying with a rock
, with it holds a special for mebecause me and my cousin, we
always do the, we always do thedance right, we always yeah, we
(14:34):
always did the dance.
So it was a thing, it was.
It's like a special, it's likea special memory for me.
But nah, that YT remix you knowwhat I'm saying which, like I,
which August said Bow Wow toBrad, jd was dope.
Number three for me is when DaParty At.
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Number two is let's GetMurdered remix.
Honorable mention isUnderstanding Baskate.
Let me get that out before I goto my number one, because
neither one of y'all had thisone.
My number one is Charlene byAnthony Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Hmm, charlene, you can't go wrong.
I'll mention it later, but yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah, I love Anthony Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Some health later, but yeah, yeah, that's a good
one.
Yeah, I love me some.
Anthony Hamilton, though, andCharlene I'm sure that song.
I actually was on the road andsomebody was at home waiting on
me.
You know what I'm saying.
I really took that song Like Ihad a woman at home.
Hold on, not White Team Remix.
(15:42):
I think they like Remix.
My bad, it's not a woman athome.
Hold on, not YT Remix.
I think they like me Remix.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
My bad it's not YT Remix, I think they like me
Remix.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Sorry, with Bow Wow JD, I kept like it's not the YT
Remix, it's not the song, whatis the name of that damn song?
I think they like me Remix.
Okay, that's my number four.
Like I said, they like me remix.
Okay, that's my number four.
Like I said, where you uh, thethe breath preaching tyrese's
(16:09):
five.
Oh, I think they like me remix.
Uh, where the party at let'sget married remix.
And then charlene, I lovecharlene.
Like I said, honorabledimension understanding.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So so none of y'all got never scared.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It started on the list, but it just kept going
down.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Because no cap, though?
Because when I was listening tothe playlist and that never
scared us oh, this is socialdeath Played about four or five
times in the car.
That was one of them.
Songs, man, hey.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And he think I'm a punk.
Yeah, nah it, it was.
It started.
So when I was working on thislist, I was talking to my girls
about it and we was.
We was going through all thesongs and that song came out.
Like I said, it came, it was onthe list, but it still.
It started bumping its way down.
It just started bumping its waydown.
It just started bumping its waydown.
The Young Blood song that LilJon produced.
(17:07):
I can't think of the name ofthat damn song, but the Young
Bloods album came out on so soDel.
He had to reinvent himself alittle bit.
Damn, that's the name of thesong.
Damn Damn came out on so soDamn, but it is, you know what
I'm saying.
Like that, and they ain't neverscared, they're not making the
(17:27):
list.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, at least for me.
All right, ben, let's go to.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Ghost Town DJs.
That my boo.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
We ain't mention Chris Cross on either.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That my boo that.
Ain't mention Chris Cross oneither.
You know that my boo that ghosttown DJ.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You know that made a resurgence, especially when
TikTok got going.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That made a resurgence.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
All right, let's go to albums.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Okay.
So the album's a little bittough.
The album kind of coincideswith artists for me.
But first off, my first one.
I started out with Beware ofthe Dog.
We're going to talk about himin a little bit.
Shout out to my man, bow Wow.
Actually, today is his birthday, so shout out to Bow Wow.
(18:17):
So I had to put Beware of theDog because Bow Wow, he was
probably making them so muchmoney for so, so Def and I don't
know he was better when he waslittle Bow Wow in terms of the
music he was producing than hewas with Bow Wow.
But when he was little Bow Wowhe was so, so Def.
And I got off the hook, as I'llsay, with Escape On top of our
(18:42):
game.
And then I put Jagged LittleThrill Okay, so I had to put
that one.
And then the last one was toughfor me.
So I really was like I don'tknow what I should do.
I really was like I don't knowwhat I should do.
(19:05):
So I just like I thought aboutputting this other group on
there, but I was like they wasmore good before they got with
him.
So I just went with AnthonyHamilton, coming from where I'm
from.
You said it like it was aletdown.
No, it's not a letdown, butit's like that's just the one I
went with, coming from where I'mfrom, because I was like damn,
anthony Hillman's a dude who gotthem hits.
(19:26):
I got to put him on the list.
So that's why I mean songs is alittle bit different than
artists and albums, because it'sjust that one song, the body of
work of these people, the bodyof work of the album, the body
of work of the song, coming fromwhere I'm from, I had to put it
on the list.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I feel it.
You said it like it was anepitome.
You barely made the list.
That's how I'm saying.
It Will what you get.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
This is artists or albums, albums, albums okay For
albums, man I wasn't ready for.
Okay for albums man I wasn't.
I was ready for artists.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Let's see, I gotta, I couldn't remember the order in
which we did them, so I was likeI would start out yeah, that's
fine, I just got my thing realquick, real fast.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
My man look, nah, he's trying.
Oh duh, I just got my thingycamp on real quick, real fast.
My man look, ah, nah, he'strying.
Oh duh, because the albums itgets me because, like you said,
it's one of those things wherehe was involved with albums, but
not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, you got to look at that body to work it out,
Because some of them albums.
They got one good song or twogood songs.
That ain't going to cut it fora good album.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
But, like you said, the anticipation of Mimi, when
Mariah Carey drops, it wouldhave been in the top five for
real.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, I would have put that if it was a full social
year.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, but Jermaine Dupri produced most of it, so it
kind of is a full-sourced Adele.
Look all the songs you think offrom that album.
Jermaine Dupri did that wholealbum was fire, bro, my mom had.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It had that thing on replay.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And technically again , if we're talking about
producing credit, jermaine Dupridid Confessions.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, I was gonna say but we didn't put that the song
on any of the you know songlist, so it's kind of like you
gonna put the album on the albumlist yeah, no, I was gonna say
I ain't gonna do it, but if we,being like you, like we said,
being technical- yeah, oh yeah,technically yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Jermaine Dupri cooked all that stuff up him and Brian
Michael Cox, they cooked allthat stuff up and uh what's his
name?
Austin, justin Austin.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Forgive me if I'm pronouncing his name wrong yeah,
so, uh, on the albums, um, I'mgonna to go with I got to go
with that crisscross.
I was thinking about it, but Icouldn't do it Four times
(22:14):
platinum.
You got to give them props forthat, even if you know you
missed it or whatever.
My list is older.
You know I'm going to go withthe Beware Dog for Bad Wild
Album.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I liked that, I'm sorry which Chris Cross album
did you put again?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Chris Cross the Totally Crossed Out okay yeah,
92, that's the one that had ajump on it.
It was.
It was platinum not tointerrupt.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I would have put that one, but when I was looking it
up they said so so Def didn'tstart until 93, so I discluded
anything before 93 from thiscross.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That's great.
Jd found them at a mall.
They just sold them around.
So yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But yeah, it comes up as one of his most notable
albums, released from the label.
So that's why I included it,totally crossed out.
And then the Beware Dog, theFranchise Boys.
Because of the amount of steamthey had, I think you got to put
(23:45):
that what's that?
On the top of my game.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And then Jagged Edge.
I like that, je Heartbreak.
Well, let's Get Married andPromise on there.
Yes, and what's that four?
Yeah, chris Cross, bow Wow,french Shot.
Jagged Edge.
Yeah, I'm not going to go withthe Escape album, I'll go with
(24:17):
the Bratz Funko 5.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Okay, All right, yeah , I feel it my five.
So I am going to go with theBratz Funko 5.
Okay, Alright, yeah, I feel itmy 5, so I am going to go with
the Escape album.
But I actually am going to gowith the first Escape album,
which is Humming, Coming At youI'm assuming it's supposed to be
saying I'm coming at you, butit's stories of the age.
But my fourth one is On Top OfOur Games.
Like I said, French Boys justhad a whole good vibe to me when
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it's on top of our game.
Like I said, French Boys Boysjust had a whole good vibe to me
.
Coming where I'm from is three.
He's Anthony Hamilton.
You know what I'm saying.
Beware of Dog is two.
And then JE Hartberg is one,which I could have put a bunch
of Jagged Edge albums on thislist.
I was trying not to put anotherJagged Edge album on this list
(25:00):
because Know me on my R&B headand then I love me some Jagged
Edge, so Jagged's a littlethrill.
It was about to be my numberfive but I purposely switched
the Escape and was like Becausethen I started looking at the
Escape and I started listeningto it and I'm like, damn, I know
all these songs.
I'm going to put this at five,even though Jagger looked real,
(25:21):
if I'm being truthful.
If I'm being truthful, itprobably is five for real,
because I remember where I wasat with Bow Wow, so I can't move
Bow Wow then.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
No, you can't because I'm going to talk about it in a
little bit, but I know that manwas doing his thing in the late
90s, early 2000s.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, I can't move.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I can't.
You know.
Like I said, I wasn't.
Did I put Bow Wow on my list?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, you did we all had Bow Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I can't exclude Bow Wow.
I might not necessarily agreewith some of the lighter work he
did, where he got real thuggy.
It's like, bro, we've beenwatching you since you was.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's regular Bow Wow.
Little Bow Wow is who we talkto Regular Bow Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Here's the thing, though JD's always been an
influence in his life.
True, I say JD contributed to alot of his life.
Now, they did have that riff,you know what I mean.
They argued on social media andthings like that.
But yeah, so Bow Wow is foreverconnected to so so Def for me.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, bow Wow is, yeah, it just is what it is.
You can't look at Bow Wow andnot see so, so Def.
I ain't gonna lie.
Like you said, a lot of BowWow's later work like Freshers
and Zombies, one of my favoritesongs.
Polo McCullum, my bass, playerhour as later work like freshers
, I'm is one of my favoritesongs.
Paul and mccullough, my bass,those weren't.
Those weren't technically alsoso deaf, but fresh in my
(26:48):
expression, fresh as I'm is hadjay kwan on the hook, which was
old scientist, also deaf, whichI forgot about.
Hood hop, uh, I mean not hoodhop tips.
Hood hop was the album tips.
I forgot about Tipsy.
That's a good song.
I forgot to list it as myhonorable mention on the song.
Also, dad and Jagged Edge,goodbye Again.
(27:09):
I could just put a bunch ofJagged Edge in a verse, but
Tipsy and Goodbye, I forgot tomention them too as honorable
mentions.
So first, like I said, bow Wow.
To Will's point, bow Wow hasalways been in the Jermaine
Dupri studios making his albums,even if he wasn't.
But you know the story behindthat is, bow Wow left Columbia.
I mean not Bow Wow.
Jd took so so Death fromColumbia.
(27:31):
Columbia was like, yeah, youcan go, but you're not taking
Bow Wow and Jagged Edge.
So he left the label out sohe's able to take the bread and
he, you know.
Then he was able to rebrandhimself.
That's where your bone thug,that's your bone thugs, your
bone crushers, your young bloods, your franchise boys, all those
people come in.
It's like act two of it.
(27:52):
But you know, it's just, that'sthe original.
Sus of death is the originalSosa Def.
So, speaking of the originalSosa Def, let's get into artists
.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
So I mean, we already talked about it Bow Wow is
definitely on the top five.
Little Bow Wow at least.
He's definitely on the top five, he's on mine at least.
So I'm going to go ahead andmention it.
Little Bow Wow I got JaggedEdge, I got them Franchise Boys
and I got Anthony Hamilton S4.
Now I got a coupleunder-initial.
(28:25):
I would have put Criss Cross inthis, but again, when I was
looking it up, jump came out in92, so so Defnits starts in 93,
so I kind of just excluded them.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They had another project that came out afterwards
.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, but it wasn't Jump, it wasn't Jump, it wasn't
Jump, it wasn't Jump.
I'm just saying it wasn't Jump.
I was thinking about Escape,and then we talked about it
earlier.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But see it says crisscross on the list because
it says that Jump was so.
So Death's first song, Firstnumber one song.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
If that's the case, they own her.
But I was thinking about Escape.
And then I was also thinkingand this is depending on what
you guys say it only saidmanagement, but TLC was listed
as an artist under theirumbrella and if y'all gonna
count TLC, they in the top five,I don't care what y'all say.
(29:27):
And then that changes a littlebit too, because you gotta go
put Chasing Waterfalls somewherein that top five songs.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I guess the thing would be like was Chasing
Waterfalls released?
When was that released?
When they was under hismanagement.
The thing would be like wasChastin Waterfalls released?
When was that released?
When that was under hismanagement yeah, that would be
the question if that wasn't,then I mean he really ain't
gonna do those.
That's why I didn't include TLC, because I wasn't sure if no
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scrubs and some of the other.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So no scrubs came out somewhere because I wasn't sure
if no Scrubs and some of theother.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
So no Scrubs came out somewhere between like 99.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Water Balls came out in like 94.
At least, it came out in thatalbum in 94.
Don't necessarily know when.
Let me look at that.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
When it was managed.
I mean, I didn't know, I didn'tdo the research.
I just kind of was like okay,well, Like when I looked up it
just said it had him listed.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Then in parentheses it said management.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
So yeah, yeah, because technically he had a lot
, like I said, because I know atone point too he had a lot of
influence on the industry.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, true, he was just kind of he was a hit maker.
Labels would pay him to come inand consult.
You, feel me.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
So Bow Wow, Jagger is Franchise Boyz, Anthony
Hamilton and then, since we'reputting Jump in the category,
I'm going to put Chris Cross.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
It's a name.
I'm going to let you slidebecause of your age.
I'm going to get on your headin a minute, All right Will go
ahead with your one.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
This is artists right , Yep.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah artists.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
So I did my artists more on a.
I didn't include some of theones that I know he worked with
a lot.
I know he worked a lot withMariah.
I know he worked a lot withUsher and people like that.
I just kind of, like Deion said, you try to stick to the ones
that says that he directly, youknow, was with them when they
had that big hit and, you know,kept them going.
(31:46):
Criss-cross Mine's in no order,like my whole list has been the
whole show.
Every list has been the show.
No order.
Y'all Same same.
Put that in order.
Y'all want to Criss-cross?
I'm going to go with JaggedEdge Because of my age and the
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time and, like I said, the bratwas just, like you know, a big
artist to me, so I'm going to gowith the brat.
I'm going to put Bad Wild onthe list out of respect, because
I know the type of numbers hedid and just deserve to be on
the list and because theybrought him to fame.
(32:28):
I didn't include his songs onany of my other lists because I
just didn't feel like weassociated him with so.
So, jeff, but y'all you know,brought it to my light, y'all
persuaded me, I took somebodyoff the list and added Anthony
Hamilton.
Okay, all right, cool, buty'all you know, followed to my
light Y'all persuaded me, I tooksomebody off the list and added
Anthony Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Okay, alright, cool, so I think I'm, yeah, I'm gonna
get on your head a little bit.
You did a SoSoDev Top 5 Artistright, and you didn't mention
the Brat.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I didn't mention the Brat in anything because I ain't
gonna lie to you I'm notfamiliar.
I didn't mention it, brad, inanything because I ain't going
to lie to you I'm not familiar.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I'm not familiar, I will be tonight in about two
hours, but I wasn't familiar.
There's no so-so deal with itafter Brad, okay.
So when I was making this listand I was sitting there and I
was thinking, like I said we wastalking about it as a matter of
fact, we was at a party andwhen I was putting the list
(33:23):
together, after I had listenedto the music and I was like you
can't do so so Def artistswithout Jagged Edge, bow Wow and
the Brand, them three.
You have to put them three onthe list because that is what
you when you think of so.
So for me at least, what Iwould assume people would do
when you think of Social Death,any of the three people you
think of is Bow Wow, da Brand,jagged Edge.
(33:45):
You can go off the other two.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You can blame my age.
I'm not familiar with her work,but I will get familiar with
her work in about two hours.
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
DI.
It wasn't like she had a hugeimpact, but some would say it
wasn't like there was a catalogthat you could go and be like.
Oh, I'm going to go on a bingeand go crazy on the black.
I don't know man, she has anice amount of time.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
While we're here, I need one song from each of y'all
that I should listen to while Itake my shower tonight.
One song from each of y'allthat I should listen to while I
take my shower tonight, Well goahead.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I would start with Funtify.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Funtify would be the one.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Come on, quentin, you made that face when he said he
was going to study or listen fortwo hours.
He'll be familiar in two hoursfrom now.
That was more than enough timeto get familiar with the break.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying okay, I'm notsaying the Bray is Beyonce, but
what I'm saying is, when youthink of so, so Del in that
light.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
She's Beyonce.
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I'm not saying.
I'm not saying Well, what Val?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
might be Val might be Beyonce and the Bray might be
Beyonce and the Brad might beKelly, maybe Michelle, and then
crisscross is Kelly.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
That's all I'm saying .
That's all I'm saying in thissituation, but so, like I said I
do.
I typically rank mine.
My five would have been Skate,my four is Anthony Hamilton.
My four is Anthony Hamilton.
My three is Da Brad.
My two is Jagged Edge.
My one is Bow Wow, because I'ma fan of Bow Wow's Bow Wow We'll
see what you saying you put upthe numbers, you can argue with
(35:28):
the numbers.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I did Just off screen a little bit.
We're not trying to get introuble.
I did listen to a couple notesof the Fuck Defy.
I've heard the chorus of thatsong.
I'm trying to remember.
It had to have been a movie orsomething.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You probably just heard it growing up, because it
was like a.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I heard the chorus of that song.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It was one of those songs that when they played they
played it.
You know you turn the radiodown or skip the station or go
to the next track.
You kind of played thatFunctified when it came out.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I'm sure I Go to the next track.
You kind of played that fromthe time it came out.
I'm sure I think it was on oneof the Nickelodeon shows at the
end where they did performances.
There might have been anotherplace where you heard that, but
I don't know if it was Kenan andKel or Owl Lab.
But I want to say they did dothat on one of them shows.
I don't know.
But yeah, that's all I forget.
Tipsy goes hard.
I just want to say it.
(36:20):
Tipsy goes hard, and so doesDamn by the Young Bloods.
But yeah, man Dion, Iappreciate you.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
No problem Anytime.
I mean I'm sure you gotsomething else Going on next
week.
What other label you going tonext week?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
No, I got to talk about.
I got to talk to that.
I got to talk to Will Aboutthat post.
I got to ask Will, but no idea.
I appreciate you Will MrBreakglass himself.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
thank you, sir, no problem man Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
No worries, man, y'all know what it is.
Thank y'all for listening toanother episode of Hold Up and
another thing presented by MixedVibes Media.
By now y'all should know thevibes.
Make sure y'all check out.
From my Perspective, we dropevery Friday.
Get y'all sports intake on thatand whatnot.
Ho, please, I said what I said.
(37:12):
They review books, they reviewTV shows.
You know that's Big Sus, that'sFamily Over Earth.
Make sure y'all check that out.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
That pod's absolutely awesome, Like I'll be waiting
on Edge for the next episode.
Man, you got to tell them Ineed two a week.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, man, two a week is a lot.
They record.
You think two's a week a lot.
Wait till I talk to youpost-pod.
It did, of course, listen tothe Mixed Vibes podcast and then
listen to Distant Combos withK&S.
I know they're recording.
I think they got some stuffcoming out real, real, real soon
.
Yeah, man, thank y'all.
(37:50):
Appreciate y'all for listening.
Like I said, make sure y'all goget y'all some Mixed Vibes.
Merch, why not have some vibes?
You know what I'm saying.
We're going to catch y'all.
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