Catch Up with Joyce & Mary Beth: Unraveling Health, Culture & Technology

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two microphones and make all gas.
Two microphones and you makeall gas.
Hi, this is Joyce and this isMarybeth.

(00:30):
Welcome to the Modern Yogapodcast with technical
difficulties.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
And luckily, no guests.
Luckily, I mean for us to havetechnical difficulties with.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
True, true.
I feel like it's a little bitstrange to hear your voice.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, does it sound sexy.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
It does, but I mean knowing how you don't like to
talk on the phone and I haven'tseen you in like feels like four
months.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
It feels like you think.
It feels like four months.
To me it feels like a year.
I was only gone for two weeksand it's not like I went to
another continent or anything,just North Carolina.
But the trip was in twosegments.
First was visiting themountains and then babysitting
our grandkids for a week, andonce that happened, even the

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part of the trip that involvedthe mountains felt like two
years prior.
I have a, not that I didn'tunderstand it or have respect
for it before, but I have a newfound respect again for people
live in the life.
Because, first of all, jameswas talking about, you know,
libya and I said Listen, I don'tknow what's going on in the

(01:46):
world.
I haven't had anything, butwhat are some things they like
to watch?
There's a funny YouTube.
Actually, james might like this.
The kids love this funnyYouTube show called Dude Perfect
.
Have you heard of this?
No, I can't even explain it,but the kids love it.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm going to have to buy that for Alina in the modern
.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't know if Alina will love it yet.
So Jackson's four, but he'ssort of a little older than that
, and Kennedy's nine and it's abunch of dudes doing stuff, but
not harmful stuff.
They're funny, they're nice.
It's probably a little maturefor little kids, Not that it's.
I don't mean mature content, Ijust mean maybe a little bit

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over their heads.
But listen, I started to loveit.
But my point is the moderngeneration has only streaming
services.
So you're either watchingsomething on Netflix or on
YouTube or on Hulu or on AppleTV and you can be really
insulated in a bubble ofentertainment.

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And I didn't even have muchtime to check social media Like
I would post to my story becausethe kids are so freaking cute,
but I didn't have time to scrollthrough and see what was
happening in the world.
I commented to Jeff a couple ofdays ago the union auto workers
are on strike again.
That happened like I don't know, the 70s, the 80s, I felt.

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I just feel like I'm in a timewarp.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's funny because our TV broke in the living room
just a few days ago Like the,just like zoom.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Today, the audio is fine, but there's no picture.
And I don't know if youremember when we were young what
would happen.
Really, you wouldn't replace itor repair it.
You might have two TVs in yourliving room, one for sound and
one for picture, right, likeyour parents would drag the old
one from the bedroom, orsomething.
But these are so disposable incost right now.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, they are Well.
What's funny, though, is thatwe don't really watch it that
much.
Like it's not on.
We don't watch, not like itused to be.
We just kind of realize thateverybody watches what they want
to watch on their own device,including Alina, and, like the
last time we watched a Netflixshow together or a movie

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together, like you know, morethan two people like we don't
even know.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yep, I agree.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
So do we need like this big ass TV in our living
room?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
No, no, except I'm sure it's going to end up,
whether it's big ass or not,that that's going to be.
You know, like the Jetsons,like the central hub, like won't
that be?
Won't we have a big screen likethat where we will, if we want
to answer our FaceTime call orask Alexa for a recipe and have
her put it up there?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
And that's exactly what Ashley said.
She's like why don't we get anApple TV?
And well, is it the TV or is itjust the device?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
But that you Listen, you're asking the wrong person.
I already feel left behind.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, you were in the mountains.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
And not working, you know, in kind of a corporate or
technology supported setting inlike a dozen years.
Now I do feel like it's allpassing me by, which is scary
because I'm going to bedependent on, you know,
bothering people younger thanmyself to help me with stuff, to

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fix stuff, to help me watch TV.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I guess it's.
I thought I saw somewhere thatthere was like an actual I feel
so dumb an actual Apple TV andI'm not seeing it on the Apple
Store.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
So Maybe they don't call it a TV, Maybe they call it
a what my father-in-law wouldcall it the big eye.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Here comes James.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh boy, we're going to get coached, it's just a
device.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's a TV.
I got it.
That's what I Sorry.
I do yoga all day long.
I don't know what you expect.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
But thanks, coach.
Yeah Well, listen, it makesmore sense than what I overheard
you and James talking aboutmoments ago, which is the Apple
water bottle that Jamie turnedyou on to.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Hey, I think that I drink a lot of water, but then I
really think about it.
I'm like do I Okay To have.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
To spend money and have a device and another item
to tell you to drink watersounds crazy to me.
For you Like I can't believethat's even on your radar.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, yeah, well, like so I was thinking about
yesterday I I taught at 545.
So I grabbed a bottle of water.
Usually I have my what do youcall it?
My water with the lemon.
Right, your refill of water,the diffuser?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I have the same one right.
We sometimes see it at thestudio together yeah.
You could put your lemon wedgesor strawberries or basil in
there.
Cucumber.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
But I have no lemons right now.
So I just grabbed a bottle ofwater at the studio and poured
one of the hydration packs inthere, and after my 545 class I
maybe drank a third of it.
So I went to the little waterthing and filled it to the top.
Well, that's not a whole eightounces, or what's in there 16.

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And then I stayed and tookAaron's class a few hours later
and drank maybe most of thebottle of water and then filled
it up again.
It's kind of like coffee withme.
I like coffee when it's acertain hot, not scalding hot,
but you got to start scaldinghot so that it can get really
hot.
But then, once it startscooling down, I just pour more

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scalding hot water in it to getup to.
So I feel like I drink a lot ofcoffee as well, but I don't
really drink a lot of coffee, Ijust drink really hot coffee A
third of a cup at a time, yeah.
I see.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's why it's easy to be me where I am good, with
food and drinks being roomtemperature all day.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh, I'm fine with well, with water being room
temperature, I don't need it tobe ice cold.
Actually, I hate that atrestaurants because usually
restaurants are cold anyhow.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, exactly, in fact I have looked it for the
first day I have on I don't knowif you can see me with our sort
of jacked up technology, but Ihave on a hoodie that says
sweater weather.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
And I think maybe that's the big change.
You left in the summer and youcame back and brought it.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I left and it got really hot here, like 90.
It was so hot.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
It was like here's the grand finale, and then it
was like two Thursdays ago.
I think it was at midnight I'mnot a weather person and then it
became fall that Friday.
It was the first Friday.
It was the first Friday of fallsoftball in Strongsville and it
was scorching hot all week.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
And then, literally, it was just this beautiful fall
evening.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
And listen.
Fall is beautiful and I do lovefall as much, as I kind of
whine and complain about summerleaving.
But the only reason to whine inthe fall is because you know
what's next.
Yeah, I don't hate winter, butfall itself oh.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Do you hate winter?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I mean, I think it's I.
The snow is beautiful, but itdoesn't.
The problem here is it doesn'treally snow anymore.
It just kind of like it justgets gray and it throws some
flakes down every now and then,and then every year, even less
often it bombs down and then andthen it gets gray and yucky

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again.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
You know what I mean, yeah, I was explaining that to
Kennedy.
We were talking about snow andyou know, it seems to me in
recent memory it doesn't reallysnow much even by Christmas here
anymore.
I feel like when we were kids,Thanksgiving was even snowy.
We've had a lot ofThanksgiving's where we could be
semi outdoors.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well, my birthday is November 18th and I have photos
when I'm little with blown outcandles, and out the window
behind me is snow like.
But it needs to be shoveledsnow, because it always seemed
to be a Halloween that was.
Are we going to have Halloweenor a bad one?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Right, or you'd have to wear a winter coat over your
costume or try and get it underyour costume, which sucked when
you're a kid, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Not so much these days.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
No, no.
So fall is is beautiful.
I mean that change in the airand things like apple cider and
eventually, cute boots andpumpkin beer and hot tea.
Are you a?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
pumpkin person.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I am.
I don't do like the pumpkinlattes and everything.
In fact at the end of classyesterday I was talking about
the pumpkin stuff.
The Republic of tea, but alsomany lesser expensive teas have
like a pumpkin spice tea bagsituation.
Well, that sounded wrong, Not atea bag situation, A tea.
And if you make that with justa little bit of honey and a tiny

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drop of your kind of milk, itit scratches that itch without
the big frothy, chemical sugar,fat shit storm that a pumpkin
spice latte is.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I like beyond juicery in Brexville, so much they're
like.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh, I haven't been there, but it's a it's up.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
You know where the Starbucks is in Brexville?
Mm-hmm, it's right next to it.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
But they, how modern is that shit that's right there,
that little plaza, that?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
little Starbucks in a juicery.
My phone is on, do not disturb,so somebody must have called a
bunch of times.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Oh, I didn't hear it.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh, hopefully, maybe zoom didn't pick that up, but so
they have.
You know they do smoothies andstuff like that, but and they
always have like seasonal things, and right now they have this
honey crisp bliss smoothie, andI'm when I first saw it.
I'm like, oh, it's fall, it'sgoing to be, like you know,
spicy, and I mean which I like.
I just don't know if I'm readyfor that, but I tried it a

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couple of weeks ago.
It's got honey, crisp apple,strawberries, orange juice,
honey and a dash of yourfavorite fall spices, which is
basically pumpkin.
It is so good.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I love me some honey crisp apple Somewhere.
I don't think it's Patterson's,but somebody puts out just a
honey crisp cider in the fallthat I've found that Heinens
before like it's made just withhoney crisp apples, if that's
your fave.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I like apples.
I don't know that I judge myapples.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I love apples.
Apples are good, really good.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, apples are great.
I had it something to slip mymind.
I had a question for you.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I some just slipped my mind too.
When we were talking.
I was thinking of something Iwanted to add when we had a
break, and it's gone for meagain.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
So when you were up in the mountains, are you?
Is your house done?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
No, we're being held hostage by our HVAC contractor
person, not contractor sub,where we can't put floors in
until the HVAC is completebecause of the humidity and
stuff out there.
This place we are in themountains is pretty remote and a

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lot of subs just hate goingthere.
It's a long drive.
If you run out of materials youcan't just run out to grab some
more.
It's just every month we keephearing one more month, one more
month.
We'll get this done, so, yeah,so we just need floors and then

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finishing touches, appliances,throw a bed in there and we can
call it a cabin.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
So where do you?
Are you still staying at thesame Airbnb?
Do you always get the same one?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
We typically get the same one because it's a real
close walk from ours, but thistime we stayed somewhere a
little different still, in thesame mountain development, just
not walking distance.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Did you go any?
So how far away is that fromwhere you, where your grandkids
are?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
About close to three hours oh.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I didn't realize.
So is it kind of on the way?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
No.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Is it passed?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's in between the kids, like we have one kid in
Charlotte and one in Apex andthis is in Ferguson, which is
kind of, I guess, close to, ifyou've heard of Boone or Blowing
Rock or Wilkes Burrow, and soit's like two hours for this one
to come and three hours forthis one to come.
So it's a good landing pad foreverybody, so that it's not a

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huge trip for anybody Got ityeah.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
You got any plans to go anywhere else anytime soon?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
No well, yes, Still in Carolina.
Next week actually, we're goingto South Carolina to Jeff's
brother and sister-in-law, boband Lisa.
Every couple of years or so wego visit them.
They've retired in SouthCarolina on a really cool spot
called Dottah Island, which iskind of a golf community and

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it's near Buford, south Carolinajust great shrimp and shopping
and water and beach and gosh.
We used to see them a lotbecause they lived in Chicago
area when all the kids weregrowing up.
But now their four kids are allgrown and gone, married with
kids some of them, and scatteredacross the country.

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So that happens so fast and sowe don't get to see them as
often.
So we're looking forward tothis one too.
But after that, yeah, nowhereexotic besides this mountain
situation.
Our kids just went to thecoolest spot in Jamaica while we
were babysitting.
They're like this resort withthese almost like caves where

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they just stepped out theirwindow and jumped off a cliff 30
feet into the water.
I'll have to send you somevideos.
It was really next level.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, it's really really different.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I jumped off a cliff in Jamaica at some restaurant.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Really that's fun.
Yeah, did you like it?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, I like to do stuff like that.
I was really scared, though ittook me a moment, and then when
I did it, yeah, they did it.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
They did it a bunch of times.
I think Brad did it more.
Kathleen told me the first timeit was a little bit of a netty
pot up the nose.
She, you know they stepped offand went straight in like a
pencil and then she did have alittle bit of a smack on her
thighs from you know, if you hitat the wrong angle, and it's
really high up.
But they really seem to enjoyit.
I think it was unexpected.
I don't know if they knewthey'd be doing all that fun

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stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, no, that's great.
We went to Jamaica likeprobably about 10 years ago.
I would guess it was a nicevacation.
I don't know that I'd Jamaica'snot on the top of my list of
places I want to go back to.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I've never been.
Jeff has been, believe it ornot, on business a couple times.
He has either a client orpartner.
So, rather than the resortexperience, he was able to be
with locals.
That's great.
So that's interesting to getsome local food and stuff like
that.
Talking about places that have,you know, a beautiful resort

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vacation area but then a lot ofyou know big disparity, a lot of
crime and poverty right aroundit.
Right, I was writing a letter to.
I sponsor a child from anorganization called Compassion
International and she's fromBolivia.
And now they make it easierthan it used to be.
You can certainly write paperletters, but they also have a

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website where you can write yourletter and you can attach
photos.
So I was attaching photos justone of Jackson and one of
Kennedy to show her and itsuddenly struck me you know,
they send me pictures of her aswell and here's me trying to
send a picture and crop out thefirst world accouterments, what

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we're holding, the equipment,the kids you know there was
karate, gymnastics, baseball,ipads, all the things, which is
not to say right or wrong, butmakes you think Right, what is
this little girl?
Look at a picture and see inthe background.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Right, no wonder why you're making fun of me for that
water bottle.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Right, I'm a little affected right now in the other
way.
No judgment choice, no judgmentno bias.
It just easily runs away withus doesn't it?
It really does.
I mean, I know, when I wasworking, all of a sudden which
again has been a dozen years ago, but all of a sudden it seemed
okay to me to explore a coachbriefcase and a different
vehicle, even than I was driving, without it giving me pause at

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all, and like later I'm like wow, it just happens, you get swept
along in the stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, when I was in, when I still had my job in
corporate America, my next carwas going to be this Mercedes
that I fell in love with.
That's kind of like a littlebit bigger I can't remember what
it was called but a little bitbigger than my Mini Cooper
Countryman.
But it was small for like asmall SUV.

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But someone in our Columbusoffice had a Mercedes and it was
in for service and they gavehim one of these for his loaner
and I drove it just around likethe.
I just drove it.
I was like this is awesome,like it just seemed like such a
as far as cars go and as far asI go, like a logical step for me

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.
And I think back to that when Isee them and I mean I still
think they're really cool cars,but I'm like I didn't really
need.
I'm gonna throw my dogs in there.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, it was like it was ridiculously expensive, but
it was more than a Mini Cooperand with leasing you know things
are affordable.
It doesn't mean somebody'sspent a boatload of money.
But I used to say I deserve aMercedes Benz because MB also
used to say I deserve bigdiamonds because it's my

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birthstone.
Neither of those have happened.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, it's funny.
You say like leases andwhatever, like you still have to
pay for stuff, right, Do you?
Do leases cover tires and oilchanges and all the?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
things I don't know, because I own my Volkswagen now.
It's.
You know, eight or nine yearsold Jeff leased his most recent
and I mean I guess that'susually like two years, so it
probably covers like oil changesand stuff, but I would imagine
when it's time for brakes andtires and stuff, you're either
out of your lease.

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Wait, I'm gonna run and grabthis shirt that I was just
thinking of that I found Hold on, I had it on yesterday.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Can't wait to see it.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I don't know if I told you, but I've got Maya here
on the floor.
I'm dog sitting this week.
Oh, she's so mellow, she'smellow, but she's been playing
this morning, playful andwonderful.
So I pulled this out of thehamper because I had it on
yesterday.
Last time I got an oil change,I saw this on a Volkswagen
employee and asked if I couldbuy one, and he directed me to
the website.

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Can you see it?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Oh, save the stick.
Yeah, he told me about that.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh, did I?
Yeah, that's cool.
Save the stick with the sixspeed.
So that's why I still have andit's funny driving the kids you
know, have SUVs, of course, ortrucks.
Jeff has a truck and I drovehome from North Carolina by
myself because he had tocontinue on to go to a client.
I got in my car yesterday and,legit, felt like I was sitting

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on the floor.
I'm like this car not onlyfeels small and old, and I felt
like my dad all of a sudden butstill fun.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I was over at my brother's house last Thursday
and I've been taking my niece toKidFit, which is CrossFit for
kids, and she does it once aweek, where my sister-in-law
does CrossFit, and sometimes Itake like they have this class
called pulse, so it's kind oflike a kind of like a hit
workout, but I think it's areally cool thing to do while

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she does KidFit, like I think itsets a good example, you know,
and like my sister-in-law doinglike it's a cool thing to do
with her.
So it is.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
It's like you want it on their radar that exercise
and fitness is a thing thatshould be part of your day,
because at some point it's goingto be.
And if you're like me and itends up not being on your radar
until you're, you know, almost30 years old, then you're behind
the APOP.
Jackson and I did 25 push-upsevery morning while I was there,
did you?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah.
I did girl push-ups, but Well,we so we took my car to KidFit
and then she needed new glasses,like they needed to order new
glasses.
So the plan was always likeafter KidFit, we're going to
Costco.
And so we went home and then mybrother was like, all right,

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let's go to Costco.
And he was.
You know, they closed at 830,not that it was 830, but like it
was it just needed to happen.
I think it was well, kidfitgoes till six, so it was
probably like six, six, 15, butshe still needed to eat and do
all the things.
So he's like let's just run upthere and get this done.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
And so Get her done.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, we were coming out of the house.
My, my sister-in-law was atsoccer with my nephew and I go,
you want to take my car?
And he's like yeah, and so Ithrew well, I didn't throw him
the keys, because you don't needthe keys.
But Adelaide jumped back in theback seat and she was laughing
so hard because my brother's Idon't know six, six, one maybe.

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And she's like he's not going tofit and she was like, she was
literally like laughing from herbelly, you know.
And she, I opened up thesunroof and and she's like his
head's going to stick out andwhatever it was.
It was really really cute.
And she, and then of course, he, my car, my, like your car,
probably my car is really fun todrive, so he he had fun driving

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.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
He was zooming, he was zooming, he was there.
There was a period of time whenmy mother-in-law, patty, who's
a tiny little petite Irish gal,had a Volkswagen bug.
This was, I'm sure, 15 yearsago or something and my
father-in-law six, one big guy,and he just hated that car.

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Because there were times, ofcourse I mean he had his own car
, but there were times that hethey would be together and he
would end up driving that carand it looked hilarious.
Adelaide would have loved that,because that car actually looks
pretty girly.
The the second version of ofthe Volkswagen bug.
Yeah, I feel like the first onewas the Herbie the Love Bug era.
They were a little moremasculine, but yeah.

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Now they're gone again.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Did you on your drive home all by yourself?
Did you listen to any podcasts?

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I did.
I looked forward to so much.
Looked forward to sunroof, openwindows, down, music blaring,
solo road trip, like I was justfoaming at the mouth waiting for
that.
Well, of course it rained forthree states instead, so I
couldn't do that, but that wasokay.
I was like okay, great, foggy,rainy, let's listen to some

(26:23):
podcasts, which I hadn't doneforever.
So I just started to scrollthrough and caught up one by one
on a few and I Erin Andrews wason two different ones, I think,
because she has a book out.
She was on the Brooks shieldswhat next or what, what now is
the name of Burke shieldspodcast.

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And then she was also on Ican't remember which other one
she was on.
I listened to Mel Robbins.
Well which I like a lot.
But as I was scrolling through,the title of one episode of

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hers was if you listen to onlyone podcast today.
So I'm like, okay, I'll bite.
I just wrote about thisyesterday, actually, because it
affected me so much All theplatitudes that we know about
life, the hourglass, you know,the sand disappearing.
She said it differently.

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She was talking about trying tomotivate yourself, whatever
your dreams are.
Hey, nobody gives a shit whatyou're doing.
You think what if, what, if,what, if nobody gives a shit?
Just do what you're going to do.
They're busy worrying aboutthem.
And here's what she said yourlife is a melting ice cube.

(27:50):
Oh, I was like damn damn period,melting ice cube, not, not an
ice cube tray to be found, not aautomatic ice cube maker.
It is melting and you can't getit back.
So so you're crying in the fogand she's she's got a way of.
She's like you.

(28:10):
I'm talking to you and I'm likeokay, mel, I get it.
Yeah, I like her a lot.
I listened to our we can dohard things.
The episode with is her firstname, Megan Rapinoe, soccer
player.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Was that?
Was that before the World Cupor after?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
It was.
I think it was recorded before.
Yeah, Because I don't thinkshe's on that Listen as I wanted
to hear her and Abby talk aboutafter.
You know, after some stuff wenton, it's astounding that I even
know anything about it, but Idid watch a little bit of that
because of Abby.
She's just fun to listen to andwatch on social media.
Enjoy the soccer, as Glennoncalls it.
I listened to my Jesus calling,I listened to you and Jamie,

(29:02):
with Joe Calicovo, aliecovo,aliecovo.
You had to learn thatEventually I got to Ohio.
This never happens.
Usually when we get to Ohio,the sky darkens, the temperature
drops and we start to hate lifeagain.
But this time when I got toOhio, it became blue and warm

(29:25):
and I did open the sunroof andenjoy some music for the last
couple of hours of the trip.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
How did you like our interview with Joe?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
You know it was really.
It was interesting.
It was really interesting tolisten to.
It would have been different ifI was in the conversation, so
I'm glad I wasn't.
It was nice for me to step outand listen to other people talk
about religion and faith Cosmicfun.

(30:03):
It sounds like Joe's just apothead talking to you.
He may or may not.
He and Jamie both talked aboutplant medicines, and so I like
that conversation too.
We're issuing pharmaceuticalsnow for plant medicines.

(30:24):
We've done it for years withalcohol too.
At the same time, are we stilljust medicating our way through
the day?
I don't know, and I'm notcalling Joe a pothead, I'm
saying his fun young demeanorgave me Spicoli vibes.

(30:44):
Yeah, dude, and then, since heacknowledged and talked about it
, I can't see you again.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
It says miss phone.
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
You didn't just text me, did you?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
No.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Okay, just making sure I wasn't missing anything.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, I don't think that.
I mean I don't know, but Idon't think Joe's medicating
through the whole day.
I think he does it purposefullymost of the time.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
And actually I don't know if you remember his actual
statement was the differencebetween me and everybody not
everybody, but people justsmoking pot is the intention,
which also you know you're.
There's that beautiful time oflife in your early 20s when you

(31:40):
do know stuff and later youprobably find out.
Maybe you didn't know it, butit's beautiful, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
You know stuff, but you don't have the experience.
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
But to be purposely so positive and loving is just
wonderful and refreshing, likeand he's very astute.
I mean I loved how he said I'dlove to just tell everybody I
love you.
But like it's a little creepyand weird because it's sexual,
because I'm 20-something yearsold, so I mean it's really.
Yeah, I loved it, it was good.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I have been on a kind of a bit of a podcast hiatus.
I feel like I've been loadingmyself up with so much
information lately, like thebooks that I've been listening
to and the podcasts I've beenreading have all been like
information, you know, and everyonce in a while I need to like.

(32:36):
This is where my favoritemurder just kind of like breaks
that for me.
So I can like, not think andjust enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, like zoning out and just escapism.
There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I'm really enjoying our new book, club book, which
is what's it called.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I just ordered it.
I haven't started it either.
Something with Grace, ordinaryGrace, by William Kent Kruger.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, so it looks like I'm almost halfway through
it.
It's a good book but it's like,personally, it's just been nice
to listen to a story.
But I've been, so I listen.
I like to listen to thedoctor's pharmacy with Dr Mark
Hyman, and Cynthia Thurlow wason his podcast and she's I'm not

(33:27):
exactly sure what hercredential is.
She's a doctor but I'm notexactly sure of what.
But she was talking aboutwomen's health and intermittent
fasting and like it was reallysort of fascinating because she
was very she was surprised tofind when she got to a certain
age that there wasn't a lot ofinformation available.

(33:51):
So meaning like we have studiedwe not me, but we've studied a
lot about women in theirreproductive years and then
women in menopause and beyond,but not in that perimenopause
phase.
And so she just she is a nursepractitioner and functional
nutritionist and so she justkind of dove hard into it to

(34:13):
like learn about it.
And I'm pretty sure that'swhere I am.
So and I'm saying I'm prettysure because I don't normally go
to the doctor but I have I canidentify with a lot of the
things she talks about.
So I got her book and it'scalled the intermittent fasting.

(34:37):
What is it Trying to pull it upas I'm yeah, her book here as
I'm talking, and my computer, ofcourse, intermittent, fasting
transformation, and it's, andit's I actually it's so good
that I bought it so that I couldhave it, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
But I've been intermittent.
Look back on it right in it.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, I've been intermittent fasting now for
almost two weeks, so I've beendoing, does it?
feel good.
It's not only does it feel good, it's so easy I mean like it's
easier than I thought it wouldbe Because, especially because
you're busy, because, yeah, itkind of gives me one less thing
to worry about, and because whatI was worried about is I do

(35:23):
like to eat in the morning andso so if I get like for the 16,
eight fasting is like a realgood one to follow for anybody,
but obviously, like you can getinto it and figure out what's
best for you.
But so I've been.
My eight hour eating window islike 11 to seven for the most

(35:45):
part.
Like James does it.
James intermittent fast too, buthe usually starts eating at
like two.
So he'll eat he and he when hecomes home, like last night he
came home from.
Last night was Monday and he,you know he teaches a couple of
classes in Strongsville, so hedoesn't get home to like nine
and he'll cook.
And you know one, I don't, Ilike to eat early.
I don't necessarily like to eatlate.

(36:06):
Yeah, you're making a face Like, and that's not so great for
you either.
I think she says you should bedone eating two hours before you
go to bed, at minimum.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
And so, anyhow, that was my concern.
Like am I gonna be starving upuntil 11 o'clock?
And I drink coffee, like you'reallowed to drink coffee, and
there are certain things thatdon't break the fast, like I can
do lemon water, and like youcan read all about this.
But it's been pretty easy andI'm realizing that when it comes

(36:40):
time to eat, there's somethingabout the fasting that like I
don't want to eat crap.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You crave healthy stuff.
Exactly, it's such a healthyand, for anybody that's put off
by the idea or the buzzword ofintermittent fasting, I started
doing it, and I don't do it allthe time because, like the last
two weeks when I was eatingnothing but the cross-off
somebody else's peanut butterand jelly sandwiches no, there
was no intermittent fasting and,believe me, I felt it.

(37:08):
But I started unknowinglyintermittent fasting by not
letting myself eat after six orseven pm.
So, depending on what time youget up in the morning, you're
already probably fasting for atleast 12 hours, without even
blinking, and I've said itbefore I always fast on Mondays.

(37:30):
Last thing I eat is Sunday night, before I go to bed later than
I'd usually eat, and then hereit is, tuesday at nine.
Something I haven't eaten yetsince Sunday night.
Do I sound hangry?
Cause I'm not, not a bit.
I wake up Tuesdays full ofenergy and in a great mood,
versus waking up feelingsluggish.

(37:51):
And, of course, because there'semotional baggage when I eat
badly, I wake up like you know,a crack or in shame, which is
silly, but also just physicallyyou feel better.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, well, it's weird too because, like
sometimes, when 11 o'clock rollsaround, I'm not hungry and like
so like last Tuesday we hadteacher training at 11 and I was
just going to eat a banana andlike I brought a banana and I
totally forgot it.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
I have the best picture of you that I'm going to
send you to attached to thispodcast.
The banana behind the desk inStrong Spell.
It's obscene and I love it.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
But I forgot about it and I wasn't done with teacher
training, I think, until two,two, 30, something like that,
and I hadn't eaten yet and Istill wasn't hungry.
Like I feel like there's thiswindow sometimes where I am
hungry at 11, but I am not inthe right place to eat, or
besides grabbing somethingcrappy.
But then you get over that andthen I'm like, oh, I can just

(38:57):
not eat until whatever, and thenI think I need to eat, like I
need to do something good in mybody before.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yes for fuel it's fuel and you don't want to then
binge later.
But the other thing thatsurprises me is like you think
of hunger, like your stomachgrowls and stuff.
That doesn't happen with this.
No, you never have a growlingstomach or a.
You know.
It's weird, almost.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
You're never dying to get something in your mouth.
So yeah, I've been intermittentfasting for about two weeks and
it's been a lot easier than Ithought.
But anyhow, this book that shehas, I just found it so

(39:46):
informative and I don't know,it's just kind of shifting
everything for me, and is thatan idea?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Is autophagy discussed in her book.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't know, it'sencouraging me to like just do
more healthy things, I guess,and it's like I said that
intermittent fasting has kind oflike almost organized my eating
in a way that I'd stress aboutit less, and I didn't even
really know that I was stressingabout it, if at all.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Exactly that's the thing.
Like there's no big rules oranything.
Eat what you're hungry for, eatwhat works for you, but you
don't have to dwell on it all somuch, because it's either time
or it's not.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
And yeah.
But so anyhow, I listened toher book and then I bought it
and I was just kind of loadingup with all this just
information.
You know, I got into.
I listened to AndrewHooberman's podcast and I got
into.
He has a mental health seriesgoing on and I found that really

(41:00):
fascinating.
But his podcasts are like acouple of hours each and all
just like so scientific andthey're just deep dives and I
needed I needed a break.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I too, I needed some escapism, so I would watch In
Bed at Night on the laptop.
The Netflix series calledVirgin River came back with a
new season, and then anotherNetflix show called Echoes,
which was I don't know, maybeeight episodes or something, but

(41:33):
really good too.
It's about these twin sisterswho switch identities.
Oh so yeah, some of thatescapism is just really good.
That's what I used to say aboutthe guilty pleasure of the
housewives shows on Bravo.
Like people are like how canyou watch that shit?
I'm like it is entertainmentperiod.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Trevor Hall came out with a new album.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Well, congratulations .
What are you doing to celebrate?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Listening to it.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
It's pretty good I follow now your intentional ink.
Her name is escaping me rightnow Kristen Kristen, and she
posts her beautiful artwork, herbeautiful tats, and quite often
there's a Trevor Hallconnection there.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Whatever customer she's working on.
Yeah, somebody has it writtenback to you.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
No, linda Halliday sent me a podcast with him on it
.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
It was very.
It was a.
Really it was unusual to getthis from her.
You know I don't hear fromLinda, but confidence you're
very often and she was like hey,I thought I'd share this with
you, but you've probably heardit and I hadn't.
It was Trevor Hall on DanicaPatrick's podcast, like years
ago.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
And yeah, it's October 3rd 2019.
So pre-pandemic and everything.
It's actually reallyinteresting.
I was like how did Trevor Hallend up on Danica Patrick's
podcast?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Was she a fan?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, a huge fan.
Somebody, one of her friends,turned her on to him and then
that was that.
But they, I don't know how theymet or why their friends are.
You know the whole thing.
But she does yoga.
He does yoga Like.
It was just very interesting tolisten to.
But there was a point wherethey were talking about their

(43:32):
yoga experiences and I'm really,really summarizing and she said
something like Shavasana isnever long enough.
And he kind of chuckled, youknow, and said, yeah, you're
right.
And she said, you know, for allthe hard work that we do in a
yoga class, like I can't get toanything good in a five minute

(43:55):
Shavasana because as soon as Iget there I'm going through my
to-do list and everything else.
But once that's exhausted,that's where you get into the
good stuff and usually that'swhen you come out of Shavasana
in a typical hour yoga class.
And I'm paraphrasing andputting some of my thoughts into
that, but it really affected meto where I was like oh yeah,

(44:19):
and I try really hard to like inmy 75 minute classes, I shoot
for a 12 minute Shavasana and Ikind of am okay with 10, you
know to give myself a big goal,but give myself an acceptable
range so that I make sure to youknow, to give everybody a
decent Shavasana In my, in my 60minute classes.

(44:43):
I shoot for a 10 minuteShavasana and I'm okay with
eight and I know that sometimesit ends up being like seven or
six, but I really try hard foreight and and but I like her
saying that made so much senseand and I knew this right, like

(45:05):
we know this.
But it's the.
It's not the initial firstcouple of minutes, because I
always tell teacher traineeslike the first four minutes
nobody budges, everybody's good.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
And then at about four minutes people start to get
fidgety and yeah, antsy, that'swhat I was just gonna ask.
You is like, especially in thehot power classes, a lot of them
are starting to.
They're starting to tap, tap,tap their fingers, starting to,
you know.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
And but that's when that's the work right, that's
where it it gets good, and I andso I just really appreciated
her, her saying that, and nowI'm following the Danica Patrick
podcast.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'll have to follow that one too.
I like her.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I'll send you.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I'll send you this one specifically because I
thought it was full of reallygood information.
So, on that and travel andeverything else I probably
mentioned, I know I mentionedthis to you in person or maybe
in the podcast, but because Ifeel like I never see you in
person, it's true, but Threeminutes on Saturday mornings

(46:13):
Trevor Hall is doing this thisband called Dispatch which I
should know, I guess, cause I doknow some of their songs they
kind of run this music sort ofit's not a festival festival,
but it's a weekend called Onlythe Wild Ones, and they're
they're doing like a Thursdaythrough.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Monday.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Tuesday in Mexico at this resort really nice resort
and James and I have sort oftalked about it, like Trevor
Hall is there and G Love andlike all these artists that like
we would really enjoy the musicall weekend.
But then it's just kind of likeI realized that I like liking

(46:54):
music.
I don't like being a fan.
I don't like that feeling oflike I don't know it does like I
.
I don't need to know hisfavorite color.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.
You like his music and you wantto be part of the music.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I don't want to be part of the music experience,
but you don't want to like dwellon this person, yes, and I, and
not just, and I'm not justtalking about Trevor Hall, but
obviously he's my favorite, butlike Dave Matthews and like I
could name, you know, like abazillion artists that I like.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I said that about Lori McKenna when we had such
good seats to see her Jeff'slike why aren't we sitting over
in the middle?
And I'm like I'm afraid to makeeye contact, like I don't want
to penetrate that bubble.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yes, thank you.
So anyhow, james and I this isreally bizarre.
I convinced him, so both dogsare behind me.
I apologize for thisinternational podcast audience.
Okay, I've got one behind metoo, but I convinced James on
early Saturday evening to take astroll in the PARK.

(48:05):
I have to watch my cadence too,because they get.
They understand Now youprobably can't.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
James probably can't spell that word, so you probably
have to actually say it outloud for James, right, Probably
yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
But but we did that and it was awesome.
It was really really nice.
We we were probably there for45 minutes to an hour and and
then we're driving home in histruck.
All I had on me were poop bagsand a phone, and he was a
country song in there somewhere.
Yeah, he, he turned instead ofgoing straight to our house and

(48:41):
he's like I go, where are wegoing?
And he's like surprise, so hejust wanted to stop in and get a
drink.
It was Saturday night, you know, and that's well.
Yeah, I had no, I didn't havemy purse, I had no makeup.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I had, you know, like I didn't, I didn't know, did
you at least take the poop inand use somebody's trash can,
rather than leave it in thetruck?
Oh that I put it in the trashcan in the park.
Oh, excellent.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, but anyhow, in this, in this small short bar
crawl trip, we decided to go toMexico for the only the wild
ones we could Well listen.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
I rolled my eyes when I was listening to your podcast
with Jamie and Joe I think itwas the one with Joe and and you
said Trevor Hall is coming toMexico and and I think the quote
is and I'm saying right here,I'm not going to see Trevor Hall
in Mexico and I, in my car,rolled my eyes and I was like it
why is she saying this out loud?
We all know there's apossibility that she's going to

(49:35):
go see Trevor Hall in Mexico.
Why is she kidding herself?
And here we are.
Yesterday, on your text, webrought that up and I was like,
oh, here we go.
And now you're telling me it'son the table.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
So you know how Jamie Jamie jokes and says the calls
the fans of the village people.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
The group is called the villagers.
He actually he explains that onthat podcast with Danica
Patrick.
So we were just we decided likethat would be a true like
vacation that we we probablyneed and we know that we would
enjoy the music and and it's not.

(50:14):
I mean, I'm sure there'spartying going on, but it's not
like this huge party crowd,that's not the kind of fans that
these groups like.
It's not going to be like a 24hour, yeah, alcohol field
festival.
I mean, I'm sure it's going tobe that way for some people.
But I just like I'm surethere's going to be and you can
do your own things.
You know, like it's, it's aresort, so you can do your own

(50:36):
excursions and things like that,and so we just decided to do it
and yeah, it's like kind of thebest of both worlds it's.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
it's one of your little music, john's, but it
also is an actual right vacationwith excursions longer than a
24 hour trip.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
That frontier can't screw up, kind of thing.
I mean, I'm sure they could ifwe, if we book through them, if
you let them, if we let them,they will screw it up.
And so I also thought, well,this I, you know, googled how
many days away is is thisfestival, and it was 75.
And I was like I'm not going todrink for 75 days and I'm going

(51:13):
to like just take this time toto like do things that I've been
meaning to do, and whetherthat's like take better care of
my skin with all these freakingmasks and products I have that I
never have time for, or to getstuff done at the house, that

(51:34):
it's always like we need to dothis, we're going to do this and
we don't like it's just makingthose things happen.
But I like that timeframe, LikeI have 75 days, and I feel like
if I get some of those thingsdone, then I'll just really feel
sort of like I I maybe earnedand earned isn't the right word,
I know I deserve a vacation,it's not that but like I just
will feel good about it.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Well, you'll enjoy it more because you won't be
feeling like, uh yeah, you knowthere's this, there's that, yeah
, and.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I'm that person that has to clean the house
completely thoroughly before Igo on vacation.
Are you like that at all?

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Uh, no, but here's why the girl who we love, brenda
, who cleans for my mom, I haveher come to my house just a few
times a year.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
And it's when I'm out of town, so I just had her come
.
Oh, that's really smart yeah itis Cause you come home, and it
couldn't have been better for mebecause Jeff wasn't even home
with me, so I go alone.
Yeah, fresh sheets on my bed,fresh vacuum lines in the carpet
, everything clean and shiningand put away.

(52:42):
That's awesome.
And I didn't even have to leaveto feed myself because I had
fresh frozen from Boston, whereMary Siskavik was recently, and
she sent me home the best clamchowder she had ever had and a
yingling pumpkin logger when Igot home in my clean house that

(53:03):
night, and then I went to bedfeeling excellent.
That is awesome.
So I recommend you do that.
Rather than you having to doall the work, have somebody
sweep in and take care of it foryou.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
I don't think I could do that because again we have
three adults a toddler and twodogs and like, yeah, this
wonderful Brenda is.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
actually.
I've known her my whole life.
She went to St Bart's with usand she's lives really nearby
and she's done my mom's hair foryears.
She does that as well and butshe she's like an extra daughter
, almost like she'll help my mom.
In fact, just this very time mymom texted me as out of town

(53:45):
she goes.
Uh, brenda said to me have youever thought of pulling up the
carpeting in that middle bedroom?
It's probably beautifulhardwood underneath.
And my mom said huh, I don'tknow.
She said an hour later thatcarpet was out of that room.
Brenda tore up, ripped up,rolled up.
Oh, my gosh, right and samewith me that, like a year ago

(54:08):
when she was here, she was likedo you mind if I rearrange that
middle bedroom and put the bedout?
I'm like listen, have at it, dowhat you want to do.
And she was right, it looksbetter her way.
So it's like, it's like a familymember of my book, like I
understand you can't havesomebody come in and clean your
house with all of yourridiculousness and like right
now it's not, it's not justcleaning Like there's a lot of

(54:29):
things put away.
It's always kind of a mess.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
But there's a lot of things that are just awaiting
bigger change, Like again, weneed to finish the basement
floor so that we can move ouroffice down there and like, and
it'll be really nice, but thenwe can move Ashley and Alina up
here.
So you know, you mean likethere's just all of that where
it's like I'm not going to putall the work into this when I

(54:52):
know it's going to change.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Right, and there's even stuff out that you use,
stuff out on your desk andeverything.
You can't really clean all thatoff so somebody can clean.
Right now that's like very dayto day stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah, yeah, so, so, anyhow, there's that and, but I
don't know that we're going togo see Trevor Hall.
I don't know that we're goingto actually go to Mexico.
We decided on it kind of, andthen, once you know, a couple of

(55:21):
days on, buy.
It's like James wants to go toPensacola for Christmas to spend
Christmas with his dad and withAshley and Alina, and it's just
, it just might be too much, andthis one's easy to like, this
is a little bit of an indulgence, so I don't really know that
it's going to happen.
It just kind of seems dumb too.

(55:44):
It's like but remember themelting ice cube?
I know, but we're also, youknow, trying.
We keep thinking about sellingour house and buying a new one,
and you know that that costsmoney.
It costs money to take thefamily to Pensacola, it costs
money to be away from the studio, it's all of that.
And it's not just the money,it's the work too of like making

(56:07):
sure everything's taken care of, and so I don't really know
that.
I mean, there's still apossibility, but I'm still
keeping that 75 days, yeah, andlike I was scrolling through the
website for this weekend andthen it made me feel silly again

(56:27):
, like that that fan, that fanmentality there's, there's all
kind of I mean, it seems like itcould be really fun, but like
there's a, you know there's a,they're having special things,
so like, let me, let me read yousome of them A limbo contest,

(56:55):
tequila tasting, guidedmeditation with Trevor Hall,
which I know every morning.
Start your morning with ameditation guided by Trevor Hall
.
Take pause to embrace your, our, surroundings, find your zen
and set an attention for therest of the day.
That one I don't feel sillyabout, but name that tune.

(57:16):
Ask the artist paint and sip.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I would love to play name that tune.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
And then there's celebrity bartending for charity
and I don't know that one.
I was just like, well, thatwould be kind of cool to get a
drink from Trevor Hall or G love.
And then I was like, yeah, Idon't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I think, though, that this is kind of a rare
opportunity to mix things up,like why are you ever going to
do that stuff again?
You'll go on another vacationor resort vacation or something,
sure.
You'll go to another concert ormusic festival, sure.
But this might be actually agood opportunity to like check
two boxes, with less money, lesstravel time, less work Because

(58:03):
they're all in their grouptogether for you.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe we'll see.
You know how I like to bookthings two days in advance.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I know that's great, though it's like a gives it a
fun little spontaneous adventurefeeling.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Well, this one, I know that they're.
They're only down to I don'tknow how many rooms, but they're
definitely getting down to acouple of rooms Like the real
nice rooms are.
I mean, they're all real nice,but, like we would, the ocean
view isn't available anymore,it's just the tropical view.
But the resort on its own,without this festival, is like a

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really nice resort.
It's all inclusive andeverything.
So I'm sure that their tropicalgarden view is just lovely,
right.
So I don't know.
It could be a brick wall Again.
Well, yeah, we had that in NewYork, but I feel like that is.
We had a window, but the windowbasically looked at a brick
wall.
Isn't that typical New York?

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah, yeah, I saw a funny.
I follow on Instagram thiscomedian, pete Lee, pete Lee,
pete Lee and he was.
He played a little clip of hewas in New York and he said I've
just got one question for youNew Yorkers.
It's like why do you put upwith this?
He goes.
I remember the first time I washere and again I'm paraphrasing

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he goes.
I saw all this like trash inbags, like it's trash day,
fermenting on the sidewalk andit was right next to this fruit
stand and I thought, oh my God,that ain't right Like he goes.
But it is right, it's the waythings are here and it didn't
affect the fruit stand or peoplebuying fruit at the fruit stand

(59:47):
.
This is just New York, whichNew Yorkers love.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, james and I talked about that when we were
there last year, like would youwant to live here?
And I was like, yeah, why not?
The thing that I would miss themost is a yard for the dogs,
but lots of people have dogs andit forces you to walk more.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
It does, but there's, I would miss the sunlight
because, yeah, there's just somany tall buildings that even on
a sunny day you're just alwaysin shade, so that would be a
deal breaker for me.
Unless you know, I had apenthouse somewhere which I just
don't see happen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
And I would come and visit you.
Yeah, I think it would be funto live there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
There's so many places I say that about like
Jeff laughs at me, it would befun to live here for a month or
for three months New York, newOrleans, even little Italy and
Cleveland and whenever I'm downthere for the feast it's like
how fun that these people arestanding out on their second
level porch watching this happenin the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I've never been to the feast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Oh my gosh, you have to.
It's the best people watchingever, is it yes?

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
I mean, I've been to a little Italy a handful of
times.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
not, I haven't spent a ton of time there when it's
when it's full, like you know,on a Saturday night, or whenever
it is just so full, it's justelbow to elbow people.
There's, you know, all the foodstands in the streets, there's
bachi ball, there's games andstuff in the in the church lot
and, like any other ethnic, youknow, pride.

(01:01:28):
If you have a Greek festival orIrish festival, these Italian
girls bring it, they bring it.
They bring it with the outfitsand the makeup and the you know,
and there's old, there's a,there's a band and there's an
old Italian lady singing andit's, it's just fabulous.
The people watching is amazing.

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A lot of people have their dogs, which is always annoying
because it's so, so packed.
The dogs are just, they have tobe filled with anxiety and hot
and getting stepped on.
It's uh, it's like just aconstant parade, do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
that Little Italy kind of became Little Italy
because of Lakeview Cemetery, mm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
That's where I go.
After I visit Lakeview Cemetery, I have lunch in Little Italy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Do you visit Lakeview ?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Cemetery.
I've only gone a couple timeswith my friend Stuff, who takes
me on all these adventures, haveyou?
It's just a fun place to walkaround.
We get married there.
Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
How did I know that?
I think you did.
We got married in the WadeMemorial Chapel.
Oh, I guess I never thought ofit.
But it's the.
The Italian masons, like allthe masonry, work in that's
right.
Yeah which is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
I did read that yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
And yeah, that's kind of how how that all got all
came about.
Because cemeteries were areally big deal.
There was a movement, I guessat the turn of the century, the
20th century yeah, that wouldhave been the 20th Because
typically cemeteries were inlike the church yard and then

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all of a sudden it was likepeople didn't have TVs right, so
they would go to the cemeteryon Sundays, or I think at some
point Lakeview got so popularthat they were charging
admission on the weekends.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Can you imagine that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
That is a fascinating cemetery, if you ever can do
like a tour.
There are some very interestingstories about like cemeteries
Interesting stories and famouspeople and.
Yeah, president Garfield is.
That whole thing was prettyinteresting too.
Have you ever been to hismemorial?

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It's massive.
It looks like a small church.
Yeah, yeah, they let us up allthe way on the balcony to on our
wedding day, like they don'tusually let people out there.
Yeah, we have a photo of, likethe skyline of Cleveland behind
us.
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I don't know how did we get here?
We went from only the wild onesin.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Mexico to Little Italy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Because I've never been to the feast yeah.
And it would be.
Yeah, there's places that you'dwant to live, but only for a
few months, to get the localflavor.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Would you ever want to live in Europe?

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Temporarily, sure, yeah, I mean I've only been to
Ireland and Italy, but oh mygosh, yeah, it's just different,
it's beautiful and so different.
I mean we grow up in the UnitedStates world superpower but
we're like a toddler comparedwith these other countries.

(01:04:48):
We're so young as a countrythat it is truly amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
What we have achieved as a nation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
But yeah, the architecture and the food and
Ireland's great for cemeteries.
We walk around a lot ofcemeteries.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Cemetery fix.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Cemetery obsession, I should say.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Does your family visit cemetery?
No, my family does not, or atleast these last couple of
generations have, and I don'tthink I ever would.
And so now I feel like it'skind of I don't understand why
we even have cemeteries, really.
I mean, I know we have to.
Was your dad buried?
Yeah, he's at Holy CrossCemetery with, and actually my

(01:05:38):
family's there.
I mean we joke, my dad's rightby a bathroom, so that's
convenient.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
But Holy Cross, is that on Burke Park Road or in
Burke Park?
Okay, oh, so super close.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Yeah, super close.
My, my grandparents are there,our neighbors are there, my
sister Judy's baby is there inthe same plot with our
grandfather, which is awonderful when you have to bury
an infant, but we don't.
It's funny.
My mom and Eleanor go now acouple of times a year to the
cemetery to see happen.
George, which cracks me upbecause my dad would completely

(01:06:11):
roll his eyes and be like didyou really buy a cross and
flowers to put on my grave?
That's ridiculous, but it'smakes them feel good now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
My, so my dad's.
My grandparents on my dad'sside lived in Pennsylvania, in
this little I don't know if it'sa township called Rouse Rouse
Run, but they didn't live therelike they live there when I knew
them.
You know that that wasn't.

(01:06:43):
I think that was where mygrandma was from, but they they
had lived in other places.
They lived in Cleveland.
My dad grew up in Cleveland.
Rouse Run is an unincorporatedcommunity and census designated
place in Redstone Township,fayette County, pennsylvania.
So it seems like it's whateverthat means.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Yes, like there should be a reality show from
there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
And there is.
I'm not sure where mygrandparents are buried, but
it's somewhere around there, andI think other family members
are either buried in the samecemetery or or near there, but
it's all.
It's so small that I can'treally tell you where they're at
, but when we would go visit mygrandparents Couple times a year

(01:07:31):
I know that we would go to acemetery at least once a year.
And then my grandma, my mom'smom and eventually my mom's dad
were buried in that cemetery.
I think it's all saints.
Is that all saints?
And, like Sagamore, I might bewrong.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
There's some, there's something else.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
east and I remember yeah, it's in Northfield
actually I remember I was ayoung adult when my, my grandma,
died and I would go see her, orI would go to the cemetery and
really see her occasionally, andthen, and then, after my

(01:08:18):
grandpa died, I don't think I'veever been there again.
And so a few weeks or monthsago, sometime this summer I was
it was a Saturday James and Ihad to go to the Brexville
studio.
We were there for for teachertraining or something, and then
we got lunch together and I wentto Costco and he went home and

(01:08:40):
there's a Costco in BostonHeights.
So it's only like it's actuallya really beautiful drive from
the Brexville studio downSnowville and Riverview and over
by Brandy.
Mine and all that.
So, and it's fun in my carbecause there's lots of twisty
turns, you know, done it, and.
But we had gone to be onJuicery and so I was coming.

(01:09:02):
I was getting there from adifferent direction.
I went down, I went down 82through Brexville to Riverview
Road, I think Riverview RoadAnyhow.
I ended up or maybe I was justfollowing GPS, but I ended up
passing the cemetery and like Ijust got this like feeling of,
oh my gosh, I haven't eventhought about going to visit my

(01:09:22):
grandma at the cemetery in solong.
And then, and then I was like,should I stop to visit my?
It was this whole mental thing,you know, and it's not that I
don't think about my grandma, Icertainly do.
But it was just, it was a bit ofa throwback.
I felt some guilt and I didn'tstop because I think it was at a
point where, like, I justneeded to get to Costco before.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Yeah, no, but just had that same thing, as if you
would have passed your grandma'sstreet if she was alive, like
oh, I don't really have time forthis, but I feel a little
guilty.
I'm passing.
Yeah by her street.
Yeah, that's funny that youshould bring up Pennsylvania.
My husband, jeff, was born inPennsylvania, didn't live there
for long, but his family wasfrom a little town called Manesa

(01:10:03):
, in a mill town and very bigcemetery people on a hill.
Like I've been there I've beento that cemetery more than I've
been to any cemetery for myfamily, and even from here.
You know, jeff grew up here inCleveland but his family paid,

(01:10:26):
not just his parents but, like Iknow, his Aunt Mary Jane and
his dad took turns, like theypaid somebody in Pennsylvania to
take care of the graves, tomaintain them into plant flowers
.
And I think the story is whenJeff's mom died suddenly when
Jeff was 13, his two brotherswere just a few years older.
Her parents, the grandparents,were so devastated that they

(01:10:48):
literally sold their house andbought a house moved right
across the street from thecemetery so that they could live
right there and probably gothere every day and cry Wow, and
despite not being cemeterypeople and Norah's Jeff.
But one of the first things hedid when we got together was

(01:11:08):
take me to Manesa and where youknow his grandparents had lived
and his mom was buried, andintroduced me to some people and
we went to the cemetery acouple times there.
So I guess, like you, like deepin his heart somewhere it was a
thing there, but Haven't beenthere in years now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
But that's seal the deal for you.
You're like that's it, this isa good guy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Funny he was recently .
He had business near there, sohe went to the cemetery only
because he had to kill a couplehours and you need no pun
intended, no pun intended.
He had to sit with his laptopand and do some work at the
cemetery.
Well, yeah, because that's heknew he had a signal and he knew
he could sit and like be out ofthe way, got it.

(01:11:52):
And after some time this guycame up to his car and
approached him and he's like,brother, are you okay?
And just like, oh, yeah, I'mfine, I'm just working.
The guy was like, oh, you know,sometimes people get really
upset here, and isn't that sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Yeah, that's very sweet.
Yeah, but to your point, Idon't know why we have
cemeteries either, do you?
Are you going to be?
You want to be cremated?
I?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
think I would like to be cremated and and my ashes
buried.
I guess Jeff and I need to kindof talk about this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I don't have to.
You can just refer to thepodcast now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Right, I mean I don't really care.
I'm not a person that where Iam or where my loved ones are
after death Other than I'm notreally a fan of sprinkling ashes
places I I don't really lovethat.
I do feel like I want to besomewhere sacred, but I don't

(01:12:54):
care if anybody ever visits meand I'll probably never visit
anybody.
I don't think you're there, Idon't think they're walking
around the cemetery Checking onus, chatting with us.
I mean, I know some people doand that's fine, but I don't.
So, yeah, so it's not been areal focus.
My mom lost her friend Elainerecently, though, and it gave
her the opportunity to tell us alittle bit.

(01:13:15):
She said you know, I think,especially after covid, even
Catholics, the funeral situationchanged.
Right, we used to have to dothe thing the two day visitation
with the hugging and the cryingand all the people and the
cookies in the basement, andthen the actual funeral and the
burial.
It's a lot, yeah.
And so I think covid took abunch of that up, and Elaine,

(01:13:38):
who was a practicing Catholicshe just had a memorial mass was
cremated, and then we all hadthe service.
There was no separatevisitation.
And my mom said you know, Ithink at this age that's that's
what I want have a, have a nicecelebration and a nice lunch and

(01:13:59):
call it a day.
So that helped us to know whatwhat she wants.
Because, yeah, some traditionsstill work for some people and
some it's like why are wespending three days, maybe
possibly putting ourselvesthrough a lot, because we, just
because we think we're supposedto?

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Yeah, I don't know who came up with the three day
role.
Like that's what you get formorning and yeah, that's just
not Reality.
Plus, like there's something alittle weird about I'm balming
and having this body.
I mean, people used to put thebody in your living room, right,

(01:14:39):
I mean that, remember.
I've never seen it, but like oh, but yeah yeah.
And the whole idea of closure,like seeing somebody in closure
and all that, like that's just.
I mean, I understand the ideaof closure but I don't
personally I don't know thatit's the need to like actually
see a body, see the body yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Yeah so maybe, yeah, maybe in the case of a younger
person, because your mind can'treally wrap around it, but then
that's the last thing I want tosee.
Right, yeah, so closed casket.
Maybe that'll give me theclosure I need, or an earn.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
My dad always used to say like what do I mean it?
Not that it came up a lot, butlike well, what do I care, I'll
be dead.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
And so he's buried at Ritman and I've been there a
couple of times, once or twice,to actually visit him.
And then you know, his, his tworemaining brothers, my two last
two uncles, on that side, Imean.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Ritman has to have a certain feel about this?

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Yes, it absolutely does, yeah.
Military connection is so Imean that'll put a lump in your
throat whether you've got someyeah Well, you go there and you
see, like pennies on the greator change coins on the graves,
grave stones.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
And that's.
I know there's a militarymeaning.
It's just to let the deceasedservice meant or the deceased
family know that someone wasthere.
And a penny means someone hadvisited, a nickel means that the
visitor served with that personat boot camp, a dime means they

(01:16:20):
served together at some pointand then a quarter means that
they were there when they died.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
So like, yeah, just little signals, like it gives
you goosebumps.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
And like the whole organization of a military
cemetery is just, it's just alittle breathtaking you know
where.
But and it's weird with regardto my dad, because he never
talked about the military- andhere he is in this cemetery and
that's where my mom will beburied as well, because that's,

(01:16:54):
you know, part of the deal, andbut, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, I kind of likethe idea of a green funeral.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Where you're.
Yeah, we talked about that alittle bit when I had heard that
Guy Fieri episode that hissister did, that when your dad
and his brothers drafted Right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
My dad was, I think a couple of my brother or my
uncles were, but there were someof them actually enlisted.
So with my, with my dad'sfamily there's there's six boys
and there's like two sets ofthree.
There's the older set and thenthere was like a pause, like a
break, and then there was theyounger set, so then they got

(01:17:36):
back to it and they got back toit.
And so I think that the olderones were already enlisted,
maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I, so my dad was in the army, he was drafted.
He was older than your dad, sothat was his.
His claim to fame.
Action there was escorting thisis named Meredith into Ole Miss
.
Oh, shame on me.
I need to look that up.
The segregated college.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
But oh, you tell me about that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
My point is so I don't really have any military
family members and it seems likea foreign kind of life to me,
people that are career military.
I was thinking about this withLisa Rich, but even to sit here
with you these days and talkabout your relationship with

(01:18:29):
your dad and stuff like there'sjust no way to acknowledge or
repay the debt that militaryfamilies pay.
Whether your dad enlisted orwas drafted, it changed and

(01:18:49):
affected his life forever andhis children's lives forever.
And you know the same with youknow you've married someone who
was in the military and his dadwas in the military as well, and
there's no way for the rest ofus.
I mean, it's easy to say thankyou and to wish and pray all the
good things, but it is likepart of the fabric of your life

(01:19:12):
and your family that none of therest of us can possibly
understand and it's somethingthat I didn't understand until
maybe the last 20 years.
Yeah like, not just deploymentsand what your job is and where
you live, but these other things.
It shaped the person that hebecame and was.

(01:19:33):
It shaped the parents and thehusband that he was, and all of
those things did the same to you, right Shaped who you are in
the conversation that you'rehaving at age 50 on a podcast
with your co-star.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Right, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
I was saying thank you military.
And there's no way to evenunderstand or acknowledge.
I'm just acknowledging that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
I was at the mall the other day and I just needed to
run in to get some makeup andthe sweater that I couldn't get
off my mind.
So I just said, screw it, and Ibought it.
Haven't worn it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
There was a sweater on your mind.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Well, I had.
I go to the stop and at theloft every now and then and and
I there's a sleeveless sweaterand it's really cute.
I tried it on, super cute.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Yeah, cute because you have apples instead of
watermelons.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
For you buy one for you to, but it just I would not,
I shouldn't say I would neverwear it.
I just don't have the occasionto wear it these days, like if I
was still working.
I would you know, like I'm notgoing to put on a nice sweater
after hot yoga.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
No, but just wear it somewhere.
Wear it to the club.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Well, that's.
That's why I ended up buying it, but it wasn't like
ridiculously expensive.
I just didn't feel like I woulduse it.
And then, and it was also like$60.
I'm like this is stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
And then then I just I'm on their email list and I
got an email saying everythingwas 40 or 50% off and I was like
, OK, well then, I'll get thesweater.
Yes, even if I don't wear ithey.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Marketing works, advertising works, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
I did the thing where I just picked, you know, I
bought it and had it, had itready for me there, and then I
not that this is important atall, but I went to Sephora and
picked up a few things and thatwas my, my 20 minutes at the
mall.
But I was walking in and therewas a woman that I would guess
was, you know, maybe around inour age range, and I'm guessing

(01:21:42):
she was with her father, who wasobviously older, and he I was
almost positive he had like aveteran hat.
You know, ball cap on and I waslike hauling ass to like kind of
get in front to see, and sureenough it was Vietnam Marine and
I was.
I had to say something, youknow.

(01:22:03):
So I just said thank you, forI'm like power walking next to
them, because I thank you foryour service, you know here
comes a mall walker dad.
Yeah, and, and I was likebecause there's there's this
something in me that's like Iwanted to be like my dad served
in the Marines too.
Did you serve with my dad?
You know I want to go throughall the things, but I just like

(01:22:26):
an.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
I see you.
Yes, I see you like more.
I acknowledge a bunch of stuffabout you just because of this
one thing that I know about youbecause of your hat.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Yeah, so I just thank you for your service.
And he's, and I said my dad,and he said thank you.
I said my dad was a Marine andhe just kind of shook his head
and kept walking.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
And you got a wonder did that ever happen to your dad
at the mall?

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Probably yeah.
Once he started wearing hisVietnam veteran hat he got all
kind of everywhere he went, heliked that and then, but he
would only really talk to otherservicemen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
That brings me around to one of the podcasts I
listened to on the way home,jesus Calling had I can't come
up with the guy's name right now, but we can add it in, but he
was the guest and he was talkingabout people being seen, just
like you just said, not the, notthe 500 yards stare that you

(01:23:22):
give a homeless person or anaddict or whatever, so they
don't see you.
But to look in someone's eyesand see them and just
acknowledge something you knowand that's what you did.
So that's good, like you didn'thave to say much more.
But he's like he gets that, youget it and you get something
about him.
And also, on a really less deepmatter, I had to go to loft

(01:23:43):
recently too.
Oh, because I wanted to buy agift card for my sister
Colleen's birthday.
Her birthday was September 9th.
I was buying this before I left, so I went to loft and they had
a thing where, if you spent Idon't know $100 or something, or

(01:24:03):
maybe not even a hundred, yougot $25 in loft bucks or
whatever, right, but thatdoesn't work for a gift card.
So I couldn't buy her a giftcard and get her the 25 extra
spending bucks, so I had to pickout something which is really
difficult because you pick outwhat you like.
We're very different, so Iended up getting something

(01:24:25):
really generic and then in hercard put a lengthy note about
I'm sorry I picked this reallygeneric thing for you, but
because I bought this, you getthis extra 25 bucks when you
exchange it to buy more.
But so the gift card thingdidn't work, and there's my loft
story.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Why didn't you buy yourself something, get the $25
and then skitter a gift cardalong with that?

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Well, I think it's cause I didn't think of that,
joyce, but also, like you, Idon't need a lot at loft these
days, right, like I mean, my God, I wear overalls more often
than not anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
I don't love their shorts and pants, but I do like
I always go to their clearancerack cause sometimes I I was
gonna say they do put a lot onsale.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
I can get some decent like like just regular old
t-shirts and long sleevet-shirts and it's good stuff,
but a lot of the nicer, thedressier things are a little
conservative for this time in mylife, which I probably should
be able to work with.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Thank you for saying that because I bought a dress
there, like last year, the yearbefore.
It's green with white polkadots and I thought in the store
it was really cute.
I don't have a lot of longdresses and I wore it once or
twice and I was just like Idon't feel like this is me.
I don't have a lot of greenthings, but there's a dress

(01:25:49):
that's there right now that Ireally like and I keep reminding
myself like I just need to givethis green dress away.
I think it's too old for, Ithink it's too mature for me,
and that's exactly what you'resaying.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
So I appreciate you acknowledging that, but I'm
having but having said that,like my niece, who's a teacher,
shops at loft and buys supercute stuff.
I mean, of course, she's talland thin and can wear almost
anything.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Yeah, well, that helps.
Yeah, that's why I don't haveany long dresses, cause I'm
short and so the long dressmakes me look even shorter.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Yeah, like you're a little lost in fabric.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Yes, Like a prairie girl.
Exactly, that's me being lostin fabric.
Did you do any yoga while youwere out calivanting around the
East Coast?
Well, in.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
I wasn't on the coast but, yeah, in the mountains.
I definitely took my yoga matand did just morning yoga on my
own.
Sometimes in the past I woulddo a zoom or, you know, look up
a class, but this time I justdid my own yoga.
And then when I got to the kids, gosh.
There just wasn't time Iintended to, but I was just

(01:27:02):
determined to at least like dosome pushups and sit ups, and
Jack just started doing themwith me.
So that got to be a funny thing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
So last night I miss you on that whole, oh sorry.
That whole kids saying like Idon't know how people get shit
done when they have kids.
It's impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
And it's not, it's twofold.
It is all this stuff rightCause there was karate and
gymnastics and baseball and justvery helpful, even though he
was working and all the dads arehelpful now, but what the moms
usually do when, I forgive me,it's not all the moms, it's some
of the dads, but yes, you getthe baseball stuff together, but

(01:27:37):
it's me who's thinking two daysbefore, is the baseball stuff
clean and is every but it arehis cleats in the bag, because
you know kids.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
And what are we gonna feed them later?
And Right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
So there's all that, right.
I mean I better pack the snacks, I better pack extra clothes, I
better pack sleeves, you know.
But then there's also and thisis only a week of it and
Kennedy's nine, so she's reallyself-sufficient.
And I wasn't working every day.
All that being said, I stillhad no time to think, to

(01:28:13):
meditate, to pray, to check inwith people, to check social
media, none of those things.
So the greater part is thatyoung people with families, you
know, can really lose their likeself for a number of years,
which again is the platitude weall know.

(01:28:33):
We hear about this and I guessour mom's generation, you know,
maybe they didn't work and therecertainly was no focus on self,
not on yourself, health or helpor your wants or needs or
desires.
Or do you like this kind ofmusic?

(01:28:54):
What kind of music you'rewatching?
What kind of TV you're watching?
You don't even get that, yeah,unless you're the parent that
puts them in front of devicesand goes and watches your own,
which most hopefully are not.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Yeah, that's funny.
You say that because my parentsthey like the Beatles, like it
never went anywhere.
My dad liked the Moody Blues,but like there was nothing ever,
once upon a lifetime.
But like you're saying, wealways we meaning probably more

(01:29:30):
me because I'm so much olderthan my brothers, but would make
fun of them because they didn'tlike anything current.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
They didn't, and nor were they going to see their
musical right.
They didn't go to concerts,right.
Things were different than theyreally probably were different.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
But then I'm also thinking about, like there are a
couple of couples that playsoftball, and one couple in
particular.
They have two young childrenunder the age of two Actually, I
think their son is going to betwo in a couple of weeks and one
of their parents, one set ofparents, watches them on Friday
night so that they could go playsoftball.

(01:30:14):
And this other woman that I metthrough softball, like she, like
just through subbing and youjust meet people, right, she,
she messaged I ended up playinga third game on Friday here in
Seven Hills One, cause I'veplayed with most of the members
of this team before and they'resuper nice, but I've never
played on this field in my inthe city I live in, and it was
just kind of like, yeah, I cando this and I don't know her

(01:30:36):
that well, but I I don't know.
I just assumed she was single,but her husband was on the team
and not only she not single.
They have a son who's like nineand the other night she plays,
which I think is Tuesday is likeshe plays that night and her
husband does something someother night, but this is what

(01:30:57):
they do together and her parentswatch the kids, and like it
could sound funny, like oh, it'ssoftball night, but like then
they have a dedicated likehealthy thing to do that's their
own, that you know the kidslike last night it's all
conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Yes, other people.
It's other people putting ondeodorant and clothes Right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Maybe having like a goal or a.
You know like I want this teamto win or I want to hit better.
You know like just something,something personal.
Yeah, Something personal, butthat's just so important.
So, anyhow you were, before Icut you off, you were saying
something about last night andI'm guessing we were talking
about yoga.
I'm guessing it was your first.
Yeah, so I came home.
I got home Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
And last night I had to teach twice and I was like,
wow, am I going to remember howto do this?
I better take a look at my.
You know my plan and I reallydidn't have a plan, but it felt
good.
I mean it felt good, hopefullyit was fun and and you know,
back at it till I leave again,I'm sure it was great.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
I know at this at this point sometimes we get
people that say, where's MaryBeth now?
But I think more Where's more,though.
Yeah, we're often the nods Like, oh Mary.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Beth's not here, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
I'm not sure.
I'm not like oh, Mary Beth'snot here, but you always come
back.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
I do.
I always come back.
I hate being away that long ata time.
I mean, I know it doesinterrupt continuity with people
and even so, even this timewhen I was away, I did get a
text saying hey, have you evertaken so-and-so's class?
What's it like?
Because they were subbing forme.
Like, just take the class, whocares if Mary Beth's not here?

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Your practice.
Yeah, it's all good.
So excuse me for somebodydriving by or walking by Colt's
getting mad.
He's a funny dog.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Also the babysitting week.
The kids have a cat and twodogs and they sent the dogs to
the babysitter for a week tomake life easier for us as well,
so we wouldn't have to comehome and worry about that on the
daily.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Oh, but you got to spend time with the cat.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
The cat became way more social.
In fact, the poor cat isprobably in trauma therapy right
now because I think the catthought the dogs are gone.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
What kind of dogs?

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Doodles, a rubber doodle, golden doodle.
Yeah, the great dogs too, butbig and just.
I think they thought this wayyou don't always have to come
back home.
Kennedy's tracked out of schoolso she didn't have school every
day.
Jackson had daycare if wewanted.
We sent him probably less thanhalf the time, couple of days he
went.
So I had it even easier, youknow, yeah, than it might've

(01:33:49):
been, but we did miss the dogs.
I'll say that.
Well, I'll say I missed thedogs.
I don't know if Jeff did.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Dogs are fun.
Speaking of dogs, I've got toget the growling one too.
Oh, they're both here.
I didn't.
I thought Chloe left.
Look at this.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Oh, and there are chins around the windowsill just
gazing out at a world that theywant to WALK in.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Yeah, or they sometimes fall asleep with their
chins on the windowsill.
They do like to WALK, thoughthey'll never turn that down.
But, yeah, they're not goingtoo far these days.
Doesn't take much to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
But they're fun.
Yeah, how are they doing?

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
They're doing all right.
Well, so he's on Rimmadill andGabapentin.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
I tried to switch him to carprofen, which is the
generic form of Rimmadill,because it's way cheaper than
Rimmadill.
Listen to you, probably a thirdThrowing out the pharmaceutical
name, right?
So you, just what you do is yougo to Chewy, or whatever you're
going to buy it from, and you-.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
How's your angina?
Angina, not your vagina.
How's your hip?

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Then Chewy will call the vet and say verify the
prescription.
So I did that.
I finally did that because Iscrewed it up once.
I put Chloe's name instead ofColt and the vet denied it and
the whole thing, and so Ifinally did it again last week
and then the vet called and saidOops.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Yeah, they haven't seen-.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
They'll crazy, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
We're going on a year that Colt's not been seen at
the vet and he's due for shotsand the whole thing, so they
can't legally give him a newprescription Till he sees the
vet Till he's being seen.
So that has to happen todaybecause there are close on
Wednesdays and he'll run out ofremedy With him if he doesn't
get his medication.

(01:35:45):
He will, just he gets slower.
It affects his arthritis.
Not that I want him to gowithout medication With her,
though it's.
You know her heart condition,it's a little bit more serious,
More deadly yeah, gee thismorning.
So I've been doing the thingwith.
I've been trying to just leaveher food alone now so she'll eat

(01:36:05):
, but give it to give her hermedicine in beef jerky.
So I have to-.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
I like beef jerky.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
It's so complicated with her because she's so smart
and Colt he'll eat anything, soit's never complicated.
I can throw his medication anda piece of bread and he'll be
like this is amazing.
So I have to give her like alittle piece of beef jerky and
then I have to give.
Well, actually, if I give-.
Oh, she needs a test piece.

(01:36:33):
Well, if I give it to him first, because he'll act like he's
never eaten before, even thoughhe just ate and I'm like oh my
God, I can't believe we'regetting this, and he gets all
excited.
So then she's like okay, I'llhave some too, but then she's
still a little like she never,she doesn't trust anything.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Doesn't trust you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
So then I'll have to give him another small piece.
And then I start to make likemedicine sandwiches, right?
So she gets two pills.
She gets a half of a Lasix,which is a diuretic, and then
half or a full analipril, whichis for blood pressure.
So I have to make these littlebeef jerky sandwiches and she

(01:37:10):
always eats the first one andthen she's like WTF, I know you
just duped me.
And so the second one.
I swear to God, she probablygot six pieces of beef jerky
this morning and she stilldidn't eat her medication.
She'll shake it and the pillwill fall out Like I'll try to
stuff it in, like sometimes youasked the vet about.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Like I know some pills should not be smashed or
anything like that, but I wonderif you're-.
No, I'm saying not smash like Idon't break it, but like
sometimes a beef jerky no, butI'm saying I wonder if you could
and make some sort of littlebit of a smoothie, little bit of
a liquid that you can syringeright at the back of your
Somebody else suggested that tooLike that's probably the next
step, but it was like-, cause,then it's the not knowing like.

(01:37:52):
Did she get that pill or am Igonna?

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
find it under the couch, she's dropping it right
underneath my feet, and then atsome point I try to give her a
piece of beef jerky and she'slike I don't trust her.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Nice try Joyce.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Forget it.
I'm not gonna eat that or mybreakfast, so screw you Cause
you trusted.
Right.
So it's a whole thing, butthey're good, they're happy,
they're obviously guarding thehouse from the upstairs.
We got you know how Amazon youget the notifications that your

(01:38:25):
package is 10 houses away andall the things.
So I bought that book, theintermittent fasting
transformation book, and it wasdelivered.
I don't know it was deliveredsometime, maybe Friday or
Saturday or something, but wegot an Amazon notification of
your packages a few houses away.
Please secure your pets.
And I looked at James on my arm, kind of bummed about this

(01:38:50):
cause.
We have a porch and they leaveour stuff on the porch and Colt.
He's just the idiot that breaksthe windows with his head.
But like he can't, there's norisk there.
He can't get to them and we'velearned.
We've moved the couch back alittle bit further from the
window so it's not like leaningright up to it.
So he can't he would really haveto launch himself into the

(01:39:13):
window to make it, but likethere's no and our fence is
secure if they're outside.
But I can imagine if you'redropping off Amazon packages
that it could be pretty scary toRight and if somebody had a bad
experience they don't want tohear.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Oh, don't worry, he's really not able to get out or
he's not gonna hurt you.
There's the dogs next door tome have an invisible fence and
it works.
They never cross it.
But there was one time I don'tknow if you remember a couple of
years ago, my mom had a chokingincident.
Yeah, I do remember and friendsof ours sent her like they,
uber Eats sent her some icecream and the guy.

(01:39:49):
So then my friends are callingme saying the guy is in your
driveway asking if somebodycould come out and get this ice
cream because he will knock itout of his car with these two
dogs that he can see next door.
So I'm like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
What kind of dogs do your neighbors have?

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
They're kind of one is a bulldog and the other one
is kind of a mix.
They're good.
My mom walks over and givesthem treats and they even then
they don't cross over the thing.
So and I like the.
One barks a bit but I like thatbecause living here on an acre
in the dark I'm a little afraidof the dark.
So when I come home and it'spitch black at night.

(01:40:29):
I don't mind a dog barking.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Yeah, I don't mind that either.
Sometimes he gets a little tooupset about mailman and stuff,
but in the middle of the nightI'm pretty grateful for it.
It's funny when we are doingthe WALK and the mail truck is
kind of moving along with us,like he goes into, like his

(01:40:54):
chest gets all puffed up Right,right, he's a defense.
What are you doing over here?

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
I thought I avoided your dogs already today.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
No, I'm talking about the dog, where he's like oh, I
thought the mailman was gettingall like no, no cold's, like
Seriously, you're gonna.
This is my favorite time of theday.
You're gonna eff this up.
I don't have arthritis rightnow.
I'm gonna follow you 10 feettall and bulletproof.
Yeah Well, thanks for catchingup, Mary Beth.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Yeah, we could do this all day, so I guess we
should stop at some point,because I don't know how long
we've been speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
I don't either, because I know what time we
tried to start but, I, don'tknow what time we started.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
It all went to hell after that, To hell in a
handbasket.
I say but you sound good.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
So for everyone out there in their international
podcast world, it was not themicrophone that James just wants
an excuse to buy newmicrophones.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Yeah, it wasn't the mic, it wasn't the cord, it was
my Port.
Is that the word?
My USB?
I was calling it random otherthings like holes.
It's your port worn out, maryBeth, my port is worn out, and I
realized that on my desktopyesterday when I tried to plug
in a phone charger and it keptclucking in and out.

(01:42:11):
So I was like, ah, I'm theproblem.
So then today we rigged this upon a laptop instead, which
won't show my face, so we'rejust yeah, we never really
explained that it's like the TVin 1976 that I was saying we
have one for audio and one forvideo.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
So we both trouble shot.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Shot, as did Mr Twirty for a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
With your laptop, this new laptop where the camera
thinks that it's being used butnothing is coming over to the
other side.
So Mary Beth is on Zoom both onher laptop and her phone, but
we muted the phone so that Icould just see her, because it
would be weird to see myself andnot Mary Beth.
So, yeah, we've got all thetechnology going on.

(01:43:00):
Too bad I didn't have thatApple water bottle to drink
water with.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Listen, if you get that thing, that's ridiculous.
How much does that cost?
Like 70 bucks?
How ridiculous to tell you todrink water and to sync with
your watch and your phone andyour Bluetooth to drink water.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
But here's the thing what if I drink the proper
amount of water?

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
If I took a picture of you to send to Bolivia, I
would have to crop that out.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
So this is what I was telling Jamie, because we're
talking about hydration and allthat and I said I had an idea
for a water bottle that itshould and this is a coffee cup
for the international pack ofsize but it should have, like I
don't know, eight bracelets orhair ties around it.
So every time you get down tothat, you put one on your wrist

(01:43:52):
or in your hair so that you knowyou had eight, or even if it
was, you're rolling your eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
You lost your mind.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
Or if it was four, then you'd have to take them off
and put them back on, because Idon't really know how much
water I drink.
Again, I think I drink a lot ofwater, but I might not.
And so she was like oh, do youknow that Apple has this hydrate
spark water bottle and it hasthese LEDs on the bottom?
They light up if you haven'thad enough water, and it tracks,
and there's an app and thewhole thing.

(01:44:19):
And I went into this thingwhere I said I think I need that
because only because the otherday I had my phone, my iPad and
my laptop and I think I wasgoing to the porch or I was
coming back upstairs orsomething, and James was like
what are you doing?
And I had my watch on and he'slike can you just like put your
Apple things down for a moment?
I'm like listen.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
I don't really.
This is why people hateAmericans.
Joyce.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
Right, I don't really have like this allegiance to
Apple, but all my shit workswell together and I just need to
get some stuff done.
So I have all my things Like Ididn't even think, oh, let me
get my Apple, this or my.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
So I have all the confidence in the world that you
can drink the water that youwant without having this special
water bottle.
I have faith in you.
We can check in every day.
You can use different cups.
You can use your hair tiephilosophy.

(01:45:16):
You can use a magic marker on awater bottle.
I don't know what to tell you,but you're going to disappoint
me if you get that bottle.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
International podcast audience.
My birthday is November 18th.
Wouldn't it be cool if I couldtake this water bottle to Cancun
?

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
You're getting that bottle Potentially to Cancun.
Somebody's getting you thatbottle.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
Somebody's going to get you that bottle If I do go
to Cancun, but it won't be meHmm.
There are 33,802 ratings onAmazon.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
For the bottle.
Look first one I've never beengreat at drinking water Just
because all your friends aredoing it.
If all your friends are jumpingoff a bridge, are you going to
do it too?

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
Listen, mom.
For years I used the sameplastic 24 ounce water bottle
with a chug lid, thinking thatseeing how much I needed to
drink would encourage me, but itdidn't.
I've tried different apps toremind me to drink and they were
too easy to ignore If Istruggled or if I was busy I
struggled to get in therecommended 64 ounces a day.
I've been eyeing this for along time I mean a long time and

(01:46:18):
trying to justify spendingmoney on another water bottle
when there was really a problemwith one app.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
She's already used apps unsuccessfully.
I think she might be theproblem.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
I'm just going to say Things I love about this bottle
.
Using the app and theirparameters, it was determined
that I should actually bedrinking 88 ounces.
Omg.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
I'm trying to picture cavemen or Laura Ingalls Wilder
.
And how did they manage to stayhydrated?

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
I don't know, but she found that not being able to
see how much she that is left inher bottle is actually a good
thing.
Seeing how much she had leftwas more of a discouragement.
Her drinks are always cold.
There's no annoyingcondensation, condensation, the
condensation.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
I was like that didn't come out, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
I'll provide the light up reminder is great.
It's really hard to ignore, andmy coworkers ask about it,
which encourages me to drink toshow them what it does.
That will be me.
I'll FaceTime you.
I'll send you videos all thetime.
She drinks a nutritionsupplement twice a day.
That needs 10 ounces of water.
It connects with her Fitbit,but I don't have that and I

(01:47:25):
don't need it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
I guess because of my words, they're not going to
sponsor our internationalpodcast.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
It uses her location to determine how much she should
drink, so it adjusts for hot,humid summer days.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
Oh, for the love of Pete.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
What she doesn't like .
Since I'm drinking so much more, I'm also running to the ladies
room a lot more.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Well, hasn't Apple solved that problem yet?

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
Well, what was James' idea?

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
Oh, forget it.
His idea was terrible and itinvolved the butthole, so we're
not going to go there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
Anyhow, I'm sure I haven't seen her late in the
evening.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
I'm going to leave this, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
All right, we're done .
Condemnation, condensation samething.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Oh, condensation.
Wait the condescension, sorry,condescension and condemnation
for your condensation.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
Thanks very much.

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