Holidays and Heartstrings Encounters with Allergies, Appliances, and Artists

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two microphones and make all gas.
Two microphones and you makeall gas, just you.
Hi, this is Joyce and this isMary Beth, is it?

(00:31):
I don't recognize you.
Welcome to the Modern YogaPodcast.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I look the same it's been a while.
Do you remember that old?
I don't know who sang the songor when it was Gone, gone, gone.
You've been gone so long.
You've been gone, gone, gone solong.
I don't know that song.
No, we got to look it upbecause I think it happened in
the 80s when I was in highschool, because we had a kid at
Padua named John Gahn I think itwas G-A-U-G-H-A-N or something.

(01:01):
Sorry for this person who'sgoing to become internationally
famous now, but we used to singgone, gone, gone.
You've been gone so long.
You've been John, gone, gone solong.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
That reminds me of my brother Brian did track.
He actually was a pole valterfor that minute.
He loved it.
He said it was so much fun Likehe did it because he wanted to
try it.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I got to send you.
I just sent my niece Mackenzieused to be a pole valter as well
, and so I just sent her viaInstagram, of course, because
everything's caught on videonowadays this awesome pole vault
, and when the guy arced over,he landed, and the pole landed
either right in his ass or insomething even more painful.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh my God.
Well, there was a girl on thehigh school track team who ran.
I'm not sure what she ran, buther name was Eileen.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh, the girl with one leg longer than the other,
eileen, eileen, it's a dad joke.
Sometimes I use that duringclass if I forget to balance on
one side.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That's hilarious.
Well, every time she ran,everybody said come on, Eileen,
oh that poor girl?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, that is such a great song too, but oh, not if
your name was Eileen, right,yeah.
So how have you been Dexsey'sMidnight Runners?
I think is who that littlediddy was coming.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, I didn't even know that.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Probably a one hit wonder.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
So we never released the last one that we recorded.
When we recorded the day beforeThanksgiving, you were super
stressed out.
It just seemed by the time itwould come out, it just seemed
somewhat irrelevant and we hadso much talk about being
thankful or some stupidity likethat.

(02:50):
I mean, that was the intention,but you had just got.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
It didn't happen yeah .

Speaker 1 (02:55):
You had just gotten word that you needed to get on
the road because your house wasbeing finished and inspected and
all the things.
Yeah, so it would give you thekeys on Black Friday right, and
you were a little freaked outand you were like let's just do
this podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's so funny because at the time that seems so
important and freaked out, andnow it's behind me and it's like
you know, whatever you deal.
Nice thing is like it's so longago too it does, and because of
that.
So I didn't have Christmasshopping and stuff done here.
But we were not going to beback home before meeting up with
our kids in the mountains to doour quote on quote Christmas,

(03:38):
thanksgiving, whatever, and Icouldn't get Amazon there
immediately because we didn'thave like the address situation.
So I kept saying it was theyear without a Santa Claus and
apologizing for you know thepaltry gift situation which is
silly.
And I kept, even as I said it,I knew it and said it was silly

(04:01):
and nobody cares.
I mean, as long as you havestuff for the littlest little to
open.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, and I was going to say, like the photos you
posted, everybody seemed reallyhappy.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, it was fun and, like I told James, my grandkids
might have gotten funny littleslippers from the Wilkes-Burrah
Walmart.
And James goes do you have tosay it that way now?
And I said, yes, it's the.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Wilkes-Burrah Walmart .
That's hilarious.
So how's your house?
I mean, I saw it on the videoyou sent.
It looks beautiful.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yes, it was Well, first of all.
So we hosted Thanksgiving,which was fun and awesome, and
again, that's the only holidaywe host and it's an easy one
with us living side by side withmy mom, you know I have plenty
of refrigerators, ovens,microwaves, crockpots, all that
and it's a very potlucky holiday.

(04:55):
So everybody left, we cleanedup and we were in our U-Haul,
with me following behind inJeff's truck on at 5 am on
Friday morning, oh my God.
And that went without incidentas well.
Luckily, because you don't know.
So when you rent U-Haul, theyalso offer, if you want, you can

(05:16):
pay people to help you load thetruck, which of course Jeff was
not going to do.
We can load the truck becausewe didn't have much furniture,
we just had boxes.
We had been stockpilinganything you could think of
towels and dishes and whateverwe needed, because you could
never walk in somewhere andfurnish it unless you're a
kajabillionaire that's a newword, kajabillionaire and I'm,

(05:39):
like you know.
We have to load the U-Haul onWednesday, to leave on Friday
and we have a lot of otherthings to do and it gets dark at
like 4 pm.
So thankfully he let me bullyhim into hiring, because also,
don't tell him, but Jeff's not agood packer of things.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean, actually that was part of the podcast, part
of it, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So, and if you're driving on the West Virginia
Turnpike or driving up the sideof a mountain in S-curves, I
don't need all my stuff smashed,crashed, ruined or the load
shifting to such an extent thatwe flip the truck.
So I was really nervous aboutthat unnecessarily.
So it was only a 10-foot truck,I think, or 15.
Well, who drove what?
Jeff drove the U-Haul and Idrove his pickup behind him, and

(06:30):
so other people who do that fora living pack.
Really well, right.
I mean it was packed so well andso tight, and so we got up
there without incident and twopeople came and helped unload as
well, which was great, so Icould be in the house and they'd
bring in box after box and Icould just disperse them to the

(06:50):
right room or, you know, startopening.
So the whole thing happenedreally effortlessly and really
well.
And I want to say I'll have toask Jeff, but I mean I think it
was under a couple hundreddollars or so.
Right, it's so worth it.
So worth it Because Jeff washaving a knee issue.

(07:11):
I was like imagine us trying todo all of this ourselves.
So I highly recommend, Highlyrecommend.
And so we got there and there.
Because of the rush, there weresome.
You know I was texting you.
There were some hashtag firstworld problems like not having a
working furnace for four days.
The fireplace didn't work.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
That's a big problem in the mountains and it's cold.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
It was, yeah, it was.
Well, there's two furnaces, sothe second floor furnace was
working, and so we just hadceiling fans pushing the air
down, so it only got as low inthe house as like 60.
I guess that's kind ofmanageable.
Yeah, it was.
It was fine, except it wouldhave been great to be able to

(07:58):
turn on the fireplace, whichtook us like till day three to
figure out the remote.
It's all operated on a remoteand at some point the remote was
missing.
So I, with the smallest handalthough my husband's hands are
small too, but on bump had tostick my hand under and up in
the innards of this fireplaceand hold some reset button for

(08:20):
30 seconds and any hue, all'swell that ends well.
It worked and everything's good, other than all the other
details and reasons why peopleend up not being friendly with
their contractor at the end ofit all.
But we love, we love howeverything turned out and the
kids came and we had a greattime and no, no complaints.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So, from my vantage point, this is my experience of
your new house.
You you said you're invited.
You know we?
We joked about podcasting fromMexico and your new house, right
?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
So we were traveling at the same time.
You were half naked in a poolwhile Trevor Hall floated by and
I was huddled on a mattress onthe floor with my husband
waiting for the furnace.
So kind of the same thing Right.
That's not what the impressionfeels like Poor me, Poor me Well
.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I was never in the pool with Trevor Hall, but he
did.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Oh no, I thought he floated by, but he was seated
outside.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'll get to that, yeah.
So, but we were, you know, andI was like you know that that
might be fun.
We brought actually we broughtmy laptop.
We just decided to bring onelaptop just in case, and I
didn't bring my microphone.
But you know, I figured we'd doit.
If we did it, we'd do a quick.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I packed my microphone.
I was serious.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
But you were also driving and you didn't have to
go through TSA and all thatstuff, so with your giant mic,
and then you kind of just wentMIA.
Once you got to the mountainsand you had sent me a quick
video of, like Jeff walking intothe house and I think it was
just like the kitchen and thedining room and I'm like, oh
yeah, she's never coming back,like there's no way.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh, you did.
Eventually, you said are younever?
Are you ever?
You're not ever coming back,are you?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, and actually like probably a week later, when
you sent the longer video, Iwatched it and then I showed
James and he's like she's, whywould you come back, like you
know, and you were likebeautiful, the mountains are
beautiful and peaceful and ofcourse, it rained the entire
time.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
the kids were with us for those two days, but that's
all right.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I mean, it probably would have helped.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
You got your Wilksboro Walmart slippers.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Right.
So so we didn't for theinternational podcast audience.
It was not our intention to notpodcast it, just life got in
the way and things werehappening and we just we didn't
do it.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Your trip was only several days, so it's not like
we were both lounging away forweeks waiting to podcast.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Right, oh, and then you were like I don't have
internet access, but I'm gettingit on Wednesday, or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
You know, that was the real problem Cause you know
Mr Trouty was trying to work.
Oh yeah, so he was using hishotspot, which was sufficing,
but things weren't awesome yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
So then I think, by the time you got internet access
, I might have been home andlike, and then you had your
mother-in-law coming.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I'm not sure how this all worked out.
Date wise.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
So you're right though.
So Patty came first a few daysbefore the kids she flew in from
Florida, so we could spend sometime.
That's usually how it goes.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
She came.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I want to say, like on a Wednesday, so that might
have been that was either rightbefore I left or right when I
came back.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I'm looking at your texts right now.
She came like the six, sevenafter, so so I get a text on
Friday, december 8th, at 1030,with your mother-in-law's lips
looking like she had done Botoxor gotten the filter Big time
You're like at the ER since six.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah.
So my poor mother-in-law wokeup at four AM heck, she probably
woke up before she woke us upwith an apparent allergic
reaction swelling.
The poor thing tried to takeBenadryl.
It didn't even touch it.
So we got the education ofwhere the closest most

(12:34):
accessible emergency room is toour mountain home, and the
answer is maybe 46 minutes orsomething.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So what happens if you need an ambulance?
You have that close right?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, I don't think so oh no, nope, the closest two
things I've seen are volunteerfire departments for two towns.
Even those are probably 30minutes from our driveway, and
of course you have to call thevolunteers in first right.
I'll ask my friends there.

(13:06):
I'm not sure if there's acloser ambulance, but there's
nothing closer to ambulance.
You too, so I would doubt it.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well, I bet you that there's some kind of like law or
something that you have to haveemergency services within an X
mile radius.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
You know like just like, maybe like a law
enforcement.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I will check that out .

Speaker 2 (13:30):
We, I will say that, even from our community, it's 10
or 12 minutes up to ourdriveway, it's several miles up
the mountain and our community,there's nothing.
There's not a gas station.
There's not a gas station.
There's it's, it's stillanother 10 minute drive beyond

(13:51):
that, or 20, even to a gasstation, or it's when I say it's
remote, girl, it's remote.
So what do you?
How is she?
What happened?
She's fine.
They, they really don't know.
They've said that you can takea medication for years.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Bless you I had to cough.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh, remind me about sneezing, though.
Okay, that you can take amedication for years and start
to become allergic to it.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh, like all of a sudden in your lip swell up.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, and it's so funny because Jeff's aunt in the
same week had told us she washaving a similar problem, except
like her eyes swelled shut.
So then I had a yoga studenttell me that they were told by a
pharmacist that if you aretaking a generic version of a
drug which most of us do thatsometimes those come from
different suppliers and mightjust have a little bit of a

(14:50):
different filler or or source orsomething.
So who knows?
So they've taken her off stuffin there.
I mean, what they did was giveher a steroid intervenously and
then an oral steroid and it camedown over the course of a day.
But it was a good education,because now I know we texted our
friends who we knew would be upat five in the morning, who

(15:11):
lived there, and said which ERdo we go to?
And she told us the quickest.
It was a wonderful experience.
I was able to find out there isa 24 hour Walgreens pharmacy
there and a gas station there,all of which are concerns,
Because when you have to drive46 minutes one way, you need to
make sure you have a tank of gasto get back.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
So that's literally like driving from your house on
the southwest corner of Parma,right and like almost Middleburg
Heights to Akron General,probably even a little bit
further.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Right, yeah, maybe so .
And on the back roads, notright, the pre-ton mountain
roads, on lit I mean.
Thankfully my mother-in-law wascalm and her she was having no
trouble breathing or feelinglike her throat was closing.
So that was my main concern,like holy moly macaroni, because
we've joked before about how wemight die on this mountain or

(16:10):
get a defibrillator becausenobody can get to you in a
timely manner.
I meant to ask my friend Trevorif there's anybody who might be
a nurse or a doctor that liveswithin the community.
But there's a fancier communitynearby, which nearby is a few

(16:31):
miles but also 30 minutes,called the Blue Ridge Mountain
Club and allegedly they havesome helipad so that they can
get their people off into thehospital.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
But on Leatherwood you didn't build your house
there.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm letting them know that it's fancier than we are.
They were, their Christmas wasnot from the Wilkborough Walmart
, which, also, leatherwood, is abeautiful and lovely fancy
place too, with people who havemoney, just not the majorities,
but yeah, so it is aninteresting dynamic, but I was

(17:09):
happy to find out where to goand what to do and it was a
lovely experience.
And then I came back.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, hold on hold on .
I have one question Did shehave any other symptoms than her
lips swelling up?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
No, but it started.
She started feeling it in thelips, I think, and it really
just goes up, honey.
I mean it was hugely swollen,it was comically swollen.
You couldn't believe.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
And then it goes up to the border.
Honestly, when I glanced atyour text, I thought you were-.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
It was a joke, yeah, and so that then creates imagine
your skin stretching andfeeling so stretched and tingly
and sort of painful.
Right, I mean to say it wasquadruple or five times the size
, is not an exaggeration.
She was starting to not be ableto talk understandably and it

(18:03):
was starting to move toward hereyes and toward the other side
of her face and so then you werefunny.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
You were like, yep, I got to see the sunrise.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Right, Because I'm such a lazy sleeper inner.
I don't often, so I said thatwas on the way.
I said, Pat, thanks for theopportunity for me to see a
mountain sunrise.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
So you were texting me that morning up until about
11, maybe, yeah, almost noon,and then at 1.37, you texted
and-.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
And my sister called me.
Yes, I have two sisters.
One was out of town just inToledo, ohio, visiting her
grandbaby babysitting for theweek.
My other sister, colleen, inNorthfield, was still home.
So Judy called me to let meknow that while she and I are
out of town, our mother fell andbroke let's not say broke, but,

(19:06):
yes, messed up her foot and herface.
So sister Colleen got to takeher now in the middle of a
workday to the ER.
And here's a little aside.
I don't know if my mother willever listen to this or not, but
she fell.
It wasn't walking or anything,she was getting up from a table

(19:28):
and she doesn't really know whathappened.
She was at a women's groupfriend meeting at a rec center
the evening before.
And Wait, you're kidding me.
Bunkerhead no, didn't I tell youthis part?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
No, I didn't know, it was the evening before.
It was the evening before.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Bunkerhead.
But everybody rushed around her, got her up.
Fine, this is a women's group.
I don't know that they're allsenior ladies, but many of them
are senior ladies.
She drove home and went to bed.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yes, so this is why I got a text.
This is a little out of context.
What did you say?
She was at a women's groupevent in Middleburg and all the
ladies just walked her to hercar.
Nobody thought they needed tocall her daughters, because

(20:27):
they're all fucking old peoplein cahoots to lie to their
children.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
That might have been a bit harsh, but that probably
was my text.
So I texted a friend of herswho I knew was there and I said
can you tell me what happenedwith my mom last night?
And she said well, I wasn'tsupposed to say anything, but
clearly you know about it.
So they are going to bother you,she want to bother you out of
town and we all checked her outand offered to drive her home.

(20:54):
There was a nurse there andchecked her out.
Fine, and I just I just want toannounce to the international
podcast audience that if you areover 80 and you fall and hit
your head, you should not beallowed to drive home and go to
sleep because you might not wakeup the next morning.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
We have.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
It's very dangerous for you and other drivers on the
road.
Well, there's that.
But you know my mom does nothappen to be on blood thinners,
thankfully.
But my friend's dad, a yogastudent who regularly comes to
our classes, a neighbor of thelobs all these three stories in
the last few months who have hittheir head, thought they were

(21:37):
fine, checked out fine and thenlater ended up with a brain
bleed.
So let's all agree, ladies outthere, let's just use 80 as the
cutoff instead of 70 orsomething.
If you're over 80, you fall andbonk your head, not allowed to
drive home alone and go to sleepwithout contacting a family

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member.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
So what the international podcast audience
doesn't know that I'm going toshare now is it might sound like
you're overreacting a littlebit is that Mary Beth sent me a
photo and it looked like her momgot punched by Mike Tyson in
the eye.
Her I have never seen an eyelike this.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
So it's not just like that.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
She tripped.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
This was bad Bonk, and I'm sure in the moments
after it didn't do that rightBruising doesn't happen
immediately, I mean there had tohave been something like that
girl who got hit in the eye witha softball.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
It didn't bruise right then, but it swelled up.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Swelled, yeah, so she got scary.
She's got quite a knob, a knoton her upper brow now I mean she
had to have an instant reaction.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
There's no way she couldn't have how these other
women were like okay, we won'ttell your daughter.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
You're right, don't stress her out and for her
putting them in that position toFib, and even if you're
thinking you're being kind andnot bothering your children or
whoever, going to the ER at 9 pmona Thursday night would have
been more convenient for myworking sister, my busy season

(23:16):
working sister, than missing aworkday to come and spend Friday
in the ER with my mom.
So, elders, even if you need alight bulb changed, it's better
to bother us and say can youcome over and change this light
bulb, then to get on a stepstool or something and need to

(23:38):
go to the ER and then we losemore time.
So I know I sound like I sound.
I sound like I sound, but we'rein the sandwich generation.
Right, we've got the kids andthe grandkids and the parents
and our kids and grandkids don'teven require much from us.

(24:01):
But I'm thinking of my sistersand my friends here and you,
your kids and grandkids are amore immediate part of your day
as well.
And then the parentals.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
So at some point you sent me a photo of your mom in
the ER and it said so far yougot two fractures in the foot,
but the CAT scan looks like onlya deep bruise, which shocked me
.
But your mom's hair looksfantastic.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well, it was the day after she gets her hair done on
Thursdays.
So better to look good thanfeel good.
As who was that Billy Crystalused to say on SNL?
Right, Better to look good thanfeel good.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I don't remember that , but wow, that's so she has.
So she's got a walking bootcast.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
She had a walking boot from the ER and then I took
her.
I got home in time to take herto her follow up of just a few
days later and that doctor waslike yeah, I think if there was
anything broken here it was oldand healed, so you probably are
safer and more comfortable in ashoe, that's not this weird

(25:15):
awkward boot.
So she's back in normal shoesand doing fine.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Thank God, so you had .
It was like.
Welcome to your new home.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's like the best of times and the worst of times,
which is what life is, just at atime, and it opens up to be a
time to spend more time away anddo this thing.
Now there's going to be adifferent consideration and some
heavy guilt and just a lot ofself-talk, right, and there's a

(25:55):
lot of things to tell her.
So we can only do.
We can do.
My sisters and I have all saidthe same things to each other.
Am I going in and out?
I keep getting this littlemicrophone.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
You were.
You're fine right now, but Imean you did just a teeny, tiny
bit.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
So we're all doing our best and you know, and I
remind myself and if necessaryI'll remind my mom that my
parents had their place inFlorida and their wonderful
decade or more with theirfriends in Florida and they did
that with my grandma still aliveand living here next door and
struggling.
So it's just that balance ofwhat to do and I'm grateful I

(26:39):
have sisters and their husbandsand their kids.
We have more bodies to throw atthe equation as things come up.
But it's just taxing on yourbrain and your emotions.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's terrible.
Sorry, it's okay.
I'm.
What's on your?
What does your shirt say?
Not to change the subject, butit looks like a fancy.
It begins with a V Vision.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Vintage Vintage Harry Harvey cabbage Vintage.
This for my birthday, Ah 1972original.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Who got that for you, harry Harvey?
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, that's pretty sweet, so I'm an original.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, I love my birthday year 1969 because, of
course, people made fun of 1969,but also there was the moonwalk
.
There was maybe that wasChepaquitic.
It was a big news year and youwere born and I was born.
I mean, obviously that's thebiggest best.
Hey, back to when I sneezed orcoughed, I, I pull my.

(27:47):
You know I hold my sneezes in,always have.
And I just saw an article abouta guy that, like, ripped his
what is this called Trachea.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Because he was holding in his sneeze.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
So yeah, but they didn't even have to do anything.
They said he'll, he'll, he'llon his own.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
But they'd never seen that before.
I know it seems incrediblypainful yeah.
Sounds painful, Like a coupleof years ago when my mom choked
on a crouton and had to go tothe ER because she ripped her
esophagus back there and theyliterally had her drink liquid
lidocaine.
Oh, what was it?
Yummy.
Well, it numbed it and she washappy for that Cause it hurt.

(28:23):
It made her feel like she wasstill choking.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Right, so they were like.
Yeah, so while you wereenjoying the mountains, I we
went on our, our trip.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh, yes, and so I should look up some of my text
messages from there, because,first of all, are we going to
talk about the thing that youdid for Trevor before you even
left the States.
Not that you did it for Trevor,that's my embellishment.
What did I do?
It involved a salon visit.
Oh, I didn't do that for Trevor, uh-huh, but she's blushing and

(29:00):
giggling, so we'll just leave.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
leave that I had some waxing done.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, yeah, so thanks .
Joyce sometimes wants us to dothings together for the podcast,
like getting Botox or gettingwaxed.
Not that we would have gottenwaxed together.
Oh, now it just got reallyweird.
I mean she was so comfortablewith it that it was, it is, and
I've talked to my friend Mary,who owns, you know, my salon and
does my hair, and she's like,yeah, I mean, I have to have my

(29:29):
employees do it to me because Ineed to see what kind of job
they're doing.
And I'm like, oh my God, like Ionly get naked for occasionally
, my husband in the dark, or thegynecologist, who's a woman,
and I'm covered in a sheet.
So no, I'm not doing that.
I know I'm the minority, I knoweverybody else just goes and
gets their their little cookie,sugar, sugar, cookie and

(29:51):
everything.
But so so, joyce, hadn't you?
You and I have not, we are, weare old and late for the hair
removal game, because we'vetalked about how you didn't get
your eyebrows done until thelady at the deli across the way
suggested once that you do them.
Yeah, so tell me aboutexperience.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I just didn't want to like deal with with.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Well, let's remind anybody who didn't listen to the
earlier version of where youwere going that this was like an
outdoor at the pool resortmusic festival concert weekend.
So the whole time you'rebasically outside in a swimsuit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
You're either at well , kind of yeah, you're either at
the beach or at the pool, andso I just didn't want to deal
with like maintenance and yeah,I invited Marybeth and she said
no.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I said, hell, no, but I could be unsugarred which, by
the way, not to interrupt you,but also I don't want anybody
picturing any of this.
Really, well, right, and nowthat I've said, don't sugar my
cookie, I don't want you tothink there's more going on
there than there is either.
I'm just in charge of it.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Okay, let's leave it at that I will say that, that
that I learned the differencebetween wax and sugar in from
the estheticians perspective,sugaring is much more difficult.
It's like having a piece of gumand picking things up with it,

(31:21):
okay, and there's honey andsugar involved and I don't know
there's some pain involved.
So there's that, if that's, ifthat's what you're looking for,
how was it?
It was temporarily painful, butso like a tattoo, that that.
That's that, yeah, kind of.
I guess Not that I would gettattooed there, but so we left

(31:51):
on a Friday and we had a 5.30 AMflight.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Right, and I got that text.
Don't fly spirit.
Yeah, getting out was a little.
There's no easy bag drop off.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
We had a little bit of a challenge so I'll just
preface this, but I might havesaid this before.
But I got TSA pre-check andJames went through the process
after me and I think his hisappointment was on like the
Tuesday before Thanksgiving.
So there's that, and usually ittakes a few days, but they say

(32:28):
it like they say 30 to 60, butmost people get their stuff back
pretty quickly and he just gothis like two days ago, so he
didn't get it in time for thetrip.
But whatever.
And it was really only helpingus leave, because it wouldn't
really help you in Mexico, right, right, but we were, I don't,

(32:52):
we weren't running late, but wecould have been a little bit
earlier and I had prepaid for achecked bag and spirit.
So we went to their kiosks andgot our boarding passes, did we?
I can't remember, because Ithink I've had my phone too, but

(33:12):
you have, you know, you have toprint your luggage tag, which
wouldn't print for me unless Ipaid for it again.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh right, and you're so desperate.
You need that print because youneed to move.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Well, but you have to get in a line to check, to give
your bag to someone anyhow.
So I was like, well, I mean Ipaid for this.
It says I paid for it on theapp.
So I'm just going to tell thisperson, you know, so I get in
the line and you know how theyhave like the back and forth
kind of thing, you know with thebelt kind of.
Yeah, so we connected in FortLauderdale and I learned that

(33:50):
most of the people in line weregoing to Fort Lauderdale for
either a connection or they weregoing to Fort Lauderdale or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
The reason I learned that.
So I got a Mamosa and a CaptainMorgan and Pepsi for $39.05.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, yes, so the bag was in my name and the line was
kind of long but definitelymanageable.
There were three or four spiritagents and there was also one
of my high school teachers.

(34:22):
She would not have rememberedme, I don't well, I actually
don't know if I ever had her,but she was like the track coach
and stuff and still has thesame hairdo and the same track
suit and she was like a coupleof people in front of me and I
like sent my brother a photo andhe was like, oh, I think she
just retired, you know, andwhatever.
So there was a group of men andI don't know if they were

(34:47):
family or friends or whatever,but they there were.
I maybe eight of them, and theysomehow held up the entire line
.
Like there were, there wereissues, there were whatever.
One agent had them and theother two or three were helping
that agent and the line stoppedand so our flight left at 530.
The doors were, you know, theyclosed like 15 to 20 minutes

(35:10):
earlier, like before the flightleaves, so you can actually
leave the gate, and it's like 20to five.
And I told James, you gothrough the TSA line because I
have pre-check, I have to checkthis bag and like I mean he
probably could have checked thebag, but like get to the gate

(35:30):
and that's our door open ourbest case scenario, right yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
So I'm just going to get there.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
So now it's like five to five and he's texting saying
if you're not here, by 510,they're not letting like, the
doors are closing and they don'tplay.
And now I'm looking at otherflights and I'm like, well, I
can take an American.
He's like I'm not getting onthis plane.
I'm like, well, listen,spirit's not going to give me
like a refund, so I'd ratherjust pay for one extra flight

(36:01):
than two.
And so we're having this, thistext conversation.
I'm stressing out and then, youknow, come to find out,
everybody's stressing outbecause everybody's going to
Fort Lauderdale.
So there was one guy who waslike there's no way they're
going to take off, because itsounds like everybody here is
going to Fort Lauderdale and Ihave seven children with me.

(36:24):
He had seven children, and theywere probably under the age of
10.
And so, my gosh, you talk aboutstress.
Eight people, plus the girlbehind me, for sure, and my high
school lady with her husband,like there were a lot of people.
So, finally, the line startsmoving a little bit.
They're not in a rush, theydon't give enough.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
And so.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I get through and now James is texting me saying now
they're, they're staying 515.
And I go.
Well, that helps a little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
So I got to know those two minutes.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
So I had gotten to know the girl behind me.
Who's this young lady fromCleveland who worked.
She works for the governmentand she was like I live in DC
now and, like you, work for thegovernment, but she was going to
Fort Lauderdale and she travelsquite a bit, so she obviously
has TSA precheck and globalentry and all those things.
She's like I've never seen,I've never experienced anything

(37:23):
like this.
This is crazy.
And so, anyhow, we finally getthrough and we kind of run to
the TSA precheck line, which islonger than the other lines, so
it's moving somewhat slowly.
I'm freaking out and thiscouple in front of me everybody

(37:48):
was super nice, but this couplein front of me was talking to
the guy in front of them and itwas about TSA Pre-Check and the
husband was like, yeah, I don'thave it, but she does.
And the guy in front was like,yeah, well, you're not going to
be able to get through.
And he goes, I'm not.
And she goes yes, you are,you're my husband.
Right and she goes no, no, no no, no, no, and he goes in the.

(38:13):
So the guy in front was likeyou're not going to be able to
get, like I've seen this, weknow.
Whatever you should probably goget in the other line because
it's going to screw up yourwhole.
You know, like everybody atthis point seemed I don't think
they were going to FortLauderdale, I think they're on
another thing, but it justeverything was moving so slowly
that everybody needed to get totheir gates.

(38:35):
So not only did he get turneddown, but there were so many
people that got to like thefirst part of the TSA Pre-Check,
where they look at your licenseand whatever, and they're like
you can't be here.
And I'm like why are you guyswasting everybody's time?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
You know?
Yeah, why do people not believewhat the signs keep saying
Right.
So your boarding pass must sayTSA Pre-Check for this to be
where you are Exactly yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
So then people are freaking out like I'm never
going to make it to my gate.
Okay, so I get through, and thegirl that was behind me was
right behind me.
We got through TSA Pre-Check at5.13.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
And they were closing the doors at 5.15 and they will
not open those again.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
She goes we made it and I go we're not there, and
but we were at ASICs.
We were at ASICs and so wesprinted from TSA Pre-Check to
ASICs and granted, asics isn't,it was.
I mean it was a sprint, but itwasn't.
It wasn't a marathon, right,like it's definitely a sprint we
could make in two minutes.
So James was standing there andwe were literally the last

(39:46):
three people on the plane.
Now let me tell you that thetrack coach somehow was behind
me in TSA Pre-Check by a goodeight people.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Hey, she should have been a better sprinter than that
.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
She was sitting on the plane.
What?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Maybe she was a better sprinter.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I didn't run track so I don't.
Maybe I don't have thetechnique.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Maybe she leaped or lept over things.
You know the.
What do they call that?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Or maybe she pulled vaulted.
The hurdles.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Maybe she pulled vaulted, maybe she did so.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Anyhow, we got on the plane, we flew to Fort
Lauderdale.
We had like a little bit oflayover Enough for that
expensive cocktail, yeah, enoughfor that.
We found like a table like thathad sunlight, like it was.
We found this like cute littlespot.
It was by a bar and James waslike yeah, we're on vacation
Officially and he was pulling uphis laptop because somebody

(40:46):
like we needed to do somethingwith the studio, like he just
needed to do something quick andI go, I'll go get some drinks.
So he wanted a mimosa and I gota captain in Coke.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
She's like $30.
I would have.
I would have read that theother way.
I would have thought you hadthe mim and James had them he
really likes mimosas, maybe,yeah.
I don't see.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I don't dislike them.
I just figured.
I rarely drink soda and it wasmorning so I had the whole day
to process it.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
But why are you suddenly calling it soda when
you are from here, where we saypop Pop?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Sorry, I really drink pop.
Are you trying to?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
whitewash yourself or homogenize yourself for our
international podcast audience.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Are you trying to?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
de-mid.
So people say we're on the edgeof Midwest.
I don't feel like we're Midwest, but we do yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
All right, so I don't drink a lot of pop, but all it
did was make me tired becauseI'd been up since 2.30 in the
morning.
Actually before, like the nightbefore, james was like no, what
time do you want to leave?
Because he thinks that, likeJeff, we need to get there five
minutes before the gate closes,right, right, and I said 3.15.
He goes really for a 5.30flight.
I'm like, yeah, because we'regoing to park and fly, so that's

(41:57):
going to take some time.
If we get into the airport byfour, we're still going to have
to deal with whatever we have todeal with.
So I think, an hour to deal with.
That should be okay.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
And, like I keep saying, you don't sleep well.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
The night before anyway, so whether you leave at,
3.30 or 3.50,.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
you're already compromised, so let's get up,
get moving and be waiting forthe plane to leave.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
So what time did we get in the car?
He said okay, I'll be ready at3.15.
I was ready at 3.15.
We got there at 3.50 and he waslike I'll pay for parking.
Like it's the same Same oldsong and dance.
Yeah, well, it's the same moneytoo.

(42:44):
So, like he's like I'll pay forparking, like this is my fault,
I'll pay for parking.
I'm like, well, okay, you'redriving, so, um, and he parked,
like I don't know, in the orangelot or something which,
honestly, was only $7 a day.
We were there for five days, soyou know whatever, but he
dropped me off so that I couldgo get in line for luggage and
then all that happened.
But anyhow, my point here isthat I was, I was really tired,

(43:08):
anyhow, and then I got a drinkand then it was like I hope I
can sleep on this next flight.
You know, um, and honestly, tobe totally honest, that like
spirit on the flight from FortLauderdale to Cancun, like
everything was great, they weresuper nice, there was like there
were just no issues.
It was a very pleasantexperience.

(43:30):
I just couldn't believe thatthey weren't going to hold that
first plane up for at least fiveminutes or 10 minutes or
whatever, because there therewere people that didn't make it.
There's, there's no way.
Like that guy with the sevenkids, he wasn't on the plane.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Um and so that on time departure, though, is like
how they all get rated andcompensated, so they just
probably are not willing to backoff from that.
I mean, I remember the week,like the month before COVID
started, we were coming homefrom Quebec city and we all
everybody missed their flightcause of customs.
And I said, I mean, that's adifferent story, that's customs.

(44:09):
But I said to her wow, bad day,hi, everybody's missing their
flight.
And she goes, this is every day.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Everybody always misses their flight.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I'm like, oh yeah, might we want to reconsider how
we do this?
And that's when we decided toget global entry.
Because, again, what I alwaysthink about is people with kids,
people with seven kids, or oldpeople having to stand in a line
that you can't get out of.
You can't go to the bathroom,right, it's just, it's, it's
rough, it's bad.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Travel can be rough.
There's gotta be a better way,especially with how everything
has the.
The cost of travel has justgone up so much so.
So we get to Cancun and theshuttle was like I think we paid
$50 a person for the shuttle,which I have to imagine that

(44:58):
most people did, cause it wasfor this event.
It was called the Wild OnesWeekend and it was hosted by
Dispatch.
And on the email that they sentthey said you know, after you,
you get out of the airport,there are going to be a lot of
people offering you rides, andonly talk to the people with
this T-shirt.
If they don't have this T-shirton, do not engage with them,

(45:21):
even if they say they're withonly the Wild Ones Weekend.
And it was just like okay, sosure enough that happened.
And we've been to Cancun before, so sure enough that happens.
It's crazy.
We get on the, on the, wefinally get on the bus, which
you know that would all wentreally smoothly, and then I
think the guy's name was likeManuel or something.
He pops up as we start movingand he's like I'm from the

(45:42):
resort, I have drinks for you.
So he had to cut a andsomething else, and I know it's
because I'm doing this, I think.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And you're the host.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
thumbs up on zoom and water.
Well, we had been, you know, inthe air and had drinks before
that, and James, he was on theoutside of the seats and I
thought he was going to getwater because we hadn't had any
bottled water.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Bless you, bless you Don't, don't, yeah, bottled
water.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
And he convinced me to not take my fancy water thing
.
Thank you, Carla.
She goes.
You don't want to drink thewater out of the tap or anywhere
else, Like you want justbottled water in Mexico.
And I was like, oh, that's agreat point, Like you know, not
having to deal with all that.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
So not having to shit yourself on vacation, as I say.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
So so not that it was a big deal, that he was
offering drinks on the bus, butbut that'll make sense in a
little bit.
So the it was like a 20 minuteride, not a big deal.
You know, we got in line to dothe check in.
Of course our room wasn't ready.
I'm like how is that evenpossible?
But you know, we, they, theytook our bag.
Actually, the bag was in theroom when we got there and so we

(46:53):
didn't have to worry about that.
And or when it was ready, andwe checked into the festival
kind of thing.
It wasn't like festival such anodd word because it wasn't like
there were things going on 24hours.
They were just bands at certaintimes.
It was the same times every day, like who's playing in the pool
right now, who's playing on thebeach tonight, you know kind of
thing.
But you got a wristband andeverything.

(47:14):
But I swear, every corner youturn there was a person there
saying you want to drink, youwant to drink, would you like a
pina colada, would you?
You know they had certainthings like entree, but then
they would be like I can go getyou a whatever you want.
You know, it was just like.
My first reaction was like Imean, this is all inclusive.
Can I just get a drink wheneverLike I want it?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Like why are you trying to get?

Speaker 1 (47:36):
me drunk Cause it's all inclusive.
I don't, there's not like a.
The only chance to like gospend ridiculous drunk money was
in the gift shop and likethat's just.
I can't imagine getting trashedand going to the gift shop and
going crazy, right.
So woo, woo.
But it was other than that.
It was.
It was nice, like it was.
It was a really fun.

(47:57):
It was just a really fun fewdays and we we there was yoga on
Saturday and Sunday morning.
Apparently they had sent out anemail before we signed up to
like all the people who hadregistered, saying like we're
looking for volunteer teachers.
The yoga was okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
So if you'd have seen that, you guys could have
taught.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah, but but like we know how to do yoga, so like it
was, it was just veryinteresting because it seemed
like both teachers they haddifferent techniques than ours
but also were.
It was like they were teachingthe people who couldn't move and
I wanted to jump up and be likeyou have such a.
Everybody's been traveling,especially at Saturday morning,

(48:45):
right, like so many things likethat anyhow, but on day one we
had where we had parked our matswas like right, it was in this
gazebo and we the steps down fora five step walk to the pool
was like right in front of us,maybe like 10 feet and we're in
Eagle pose and like Trevor Hallswims by.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, you texted me.
More interesting news TrevorHall is just kind of hanging out
.
He just kind of swam by duringyoga.
I was in Eagle and you know howyou can't really see anything
and your arms are crossed infront of you, but he went
swimming by like five times Ilooked over at James and I'm
like that's Trevor Hall and hekind of smiled and like he got

(49:29):
it, but he didn't.
later on he's like, oh no, Ididn't see him in the pool Like,
oh, okay, like what did youthink I said my favorite picture
was of James lounging in hisGanesha swim trunks.
Little Ganesha elephants, allover.
He loves like this I think ifyou're going to have Ganesha

(49:50):
swim trunks, they should be likespeedo and they should just
have one elephant trunkstrategically located.
But that was not the case.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah, that's funny.
You say that I didn't see anyspeedos over the weekend, which
is good yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, so then eventually you sent me a bona
fide pick of you and James andhim and Trevor Hall.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah.
So day two of yoga was well,just say, day one was better.
But what was really funny wasthat the teacher had us put our
hands on our hips and do hipcircles.
And James's face was so funnythat I had to run to the
bathroom Like a hula dance.

(50:36):
Yes, I was laughing so hard andhe was like.
He was like what the hell arewe doing?
And then he was annoyed and thewhole thing.
I just lost it.
But again, we know how to doyoga.
So we had our practice in thenet.
That was at nine, yeah.
And then Trevor Hall did hisguided meditation at 10.

(50:57):
And what's funny is like he waslike I've never let a
meditation.
He was kind of being reallyhumble, sort of making it sound
like he didn't meditate, but thedude meditates, he's talked
about it.
I mean he didn't say I don'tmeditate, but he was just more
like I've never done this, notsure it's going to work,

(51:19):
downplaying himself a little bit.
And he did a tic-nac-hanmeditation and it was really
nice.
It wasn't guided to the pointwhere you had to listen to him,
he was just.
It was just I am breathing in,I am breathing out, and he got
us started and then every oncein a while he would say that and

(51:40):
he would also, and then onetime he said feel the shape of
your mouth and just smile,because that changes your
chemistry.
It could change your whole day.
But it was very his words werevery sparse, so it was really
nice and we weren't that faraway from him.

(52:02):
So when it was over, I justlooked at James and said I'm
going to meet him.
So we saw him on the beach thenight before and we watched his
sound check, which was reallycool, because like well, james
sat on a chair a little bitfurther away but I stood in the
ocean and kind of walked arounda little bit and I'm like I was

(52:24):
one of like maybe two people onthe beach during his sound check
and then I was like this dudeis really, really connected to
his audience and like we followhim around.
We should probably I literallyhad like seriously had this
thought of like we shouldprobably introduce ourselves,
because at this point we mightlook like creepers, you know
what I mean Like oh, there'sthose people again.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
It's the guy in the Ganesha pants.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, so so I was like the first one to go up to
him and I was just like you know, we've been seeing you since
about 2010 when you were openingfor Ziggy Marley, and he's like
, yeah, and I'm like, we'vefollowed you to Red Rocks and
Detroit and a lot of places andwe just really love your music

(53:11):
and I think it's it's you say alot of things that kind of give
us permission to talk about likefeelings and stuff that in a
safe way, and I just reallyappreciate that.
And you know he was like, oh,thank you.
He asked me my name like twice.
He was so nice, which I wasn'tsurprised about, because like

(53:33):
you can't write songs like thatand like be a jerk, you know.
And I told him that I showedhim my tattoo.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I was going to ask you if you talked about your
common tattoo.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah, and then I told him about Alina and how she
loves that song he did forSlumberkin's called Deep Breath,
and he was like and then James,at that point James had taken
our mats back and at that pointhe was there and James was like,
yeah, she sings it all the timeand he goes how old is she?
And we're like three.
And he's like, yeah, my son'stwo and a half, and he's not
singing yet.

(54:05):
And I'm like, but they changeso fast, like I mean, from two
and a half to three is like, andhe goes I know, it's crazy, you
know.
And so it was a really kind ofsweet thing about, about kids,
and I didn't want to like Iwanted to talk to him all day
but I didn't want to.
Other people were waiting tosay hi and I was just like you
know, would you mind taking apicture?
And he's like, no, james wasgoing to take it.

(54:26):
And and somebody else was likeI'll take it, and he goes no, no
, come on in the picture toJames, you know.
And so that's kind of how that,how that all came about.
The thing that surprised me themost, honestly, is he's so tall
, like I was just going to saythat.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
I'm looking at the picture you sent it to me.
You're in the middle between heand James and he's really
leaning over.
I mean he's taller than I wouldhave thought.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Me too, and, granted, most of the time I'm looking up
at him on stage right, and soyou know how people on TV and on
stage.
They are just smaller than yeah.
I think he's way taller than Ithan I had imagined, but it was
when you sent, when you sentthis picture, and I said did you
talk?

Speaker 2 (55:07):
and you said a little .

Speaker 1 (55:08):
and I said about Peloton and you said no, what's
funny is I had the night beforewhen he played on the big stage
on the beach.
I had taken a few photos andvideos, but I tried not to like
I just don't want to be one ofthose people with their phones
up all the time and I justwanted to like, just enjoy the

(55:28):
experience.
But I did post a few and taggedhim because he'll like, you
know he he shares a lot of thatfrom the audience perspective
and and so I did that.
And then when on our walk backto the room after meeting him,
ashley had texted us aboutsomething and and, and I had

(55:51):
sent that photo back, and shegoes oh, wow, you know how was
that?
And I'm like really cool.
We told him about Alina and howshe loves the song.
She goes, she's singing itright now and I said send a
video.
So she recorded Alina singingit.
It was, it was really funny andand so I just I sent it to him
on on Instagram.
I was like hey, it was reallynice to meet you.

(56:12):
Oddly enough, we just got this.
I know he read it because youknow how you can.
He didn't respond, which I'm.
I'm sure he gets lots ofmessages and you know it's fine,
but but I was looking because Ihad.
I was a little because I hadmessaged him on Instagram about
Peloton and I wasn't.
I was very nice about it, but Istill hadn't.
I tagged him in those videos.

(56:34):
That would have been the last,the last like conversation.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Right, Cause it like it keeps you in the same string,
whatever you said or sent.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yeah, so I was pretty proud of myself for tagging him
in those videos the nightbefore.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
But honestly, if he read the Peloton thing it would
have been fine.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Like I don't he might have helped reading his
messages initially, and whoknows?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Oh, I'm, yeah, I'm sure, but I mean, look how busy
it must be.
But then the next day he both heand his wife announced that
they're having another baby.
So she's, she's like halfwaythere, like they.
Just so he, which he had, hehad said like not to us, but
like on stage at some point,like you know.
So our last show of the yearand I don't know about you guys,

(57:21):
but it's been a wild year forme, and you know, and that makes
sense too, with Red Rocks beinga little bit later I mentioned
he's.
You know he always plays RedRocks in the spring and now,
like next year, he's playing inJune.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
So it'll be interesting to see, you know, if
he tours and does all thethings but you know and you were
talking about even your few andand not very long trips how
that disrupts your Alina'sschedule.
So imagine, does his wife andand family tour with him?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah Well, so last year he did I don't know if I'm
sure I talked about this on thepodcast, but he did the
storyteller tour at thebeginning of his tour, where it
was just him and he.
He tells the stories of hissongs.
And he did that for a couple ofmonths and he actually he
talked about this because hewrote a song called the train

(58:16):
song.
His wife's family is fromConnecticut, I think, and he
said they all flew out therebecause his tour was starting in
DC, in the DC area.
So they took, after theyvisited his in-laws, they took a
train.
They thought it'd be a goodidea to take a train from there
to DC because his son lovestrains and I think that they

(58:41):
stayed with him through thestoryteller tour.
But once the band started, oncethat tour started with everybody
that I think she stayed homewith with the son for the summer
.
But it was, it was funny.
He was like I think he wastalking about this in Mexico
where he, like they thought itwould be such a cool thing to

(59:04):
take a train and his son waslike over the top he's on a real
train, but he was going on tour.
So he, he's like we had the dogwe had.
Like the tour bus was in DC.
We had all the guitars a toddlerall the things that come with a
toddler and the two of us andit was like you know he goes,

(59:26):
but it was worth it to see, tosee his face.
So actually last year Iremember.
So they they adopted a.
I got I feel like such agroupie they.
They have a dog who has his ownInstagram page too, but hit the
dogs in the in his posts a lot.
But she had posted when theywere in Houston that that their
dog was taken off the streets ofHouston and here here he was

(59:52):
looking out the window in a tourbus In Houston saying I made it
too funny.
But, yeah, alina, alina lovesthat song and it was just, it
was a super good interaction.
So his show, his show onSaturday night was really good
and then, and I think he got, oh, like a, we met a lot of

(01:00:13):
dispatch fans who were like,well, trevor Hall was really
good, like we didn't know, youknow.
So I think he picked up somefans and then he played on this
little stage in the gazebo thatfloated over the water on Sunday
.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
And that was really fun.
That's the one where you werein the water right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah, that was really fun and he was so during the
soundcheck he was just singingand he was like, don't forget
your sunscreen, put yoursunscreen on.
And then he's like, if youforgot your sunscreen, you can
go to the gift shop.
It's $75.
He must have forgotten hissunscreen because it was $75 in

(01:00:54):
the gift shop.
The gift shop was in that crazy.
Yeah, it was crazy.
So, yeah, that was.
It was really fun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
We watched some other bands and, uh, we as you said,
our, our, both of our respectivetrips feel very far behind us
already in the way that theylike.
Anticipation is such a fun partof a trip.
Yeah, makes the whole thinglast longer.
And then when it's over, it'sover, it's over, johnny.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I'm going to pause for a bathroom break.
Okay, and we're back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yes, we are After a brief break.
Nobody got a break, but us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Yeah, there's this young artist named Emily's.
She turned 18 there and she wasso good Like her voice made me
cry that like and she was sosweet.
She was like you guys.
I can't believe I'm here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Oh, um, I um.
You sent me to saying that youcried about her voice and I
wondered if there was a littlebit of alcohol involved with
your emotions.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
There was.
Well, honestly, I don't, wenever got drunk Like we, um, but
I you know any a little bit ofthat that sincerity, though with
a with an artist.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I remember seeing Laurie McKenna and she started
to cry when people were singingher lyrics back to her and she
was like I can't believe youknow this song and that you're
singing it with me.
And then she said and also I hadto drop my youngest at college
this week and I thought I wasokay, but apparently I'm not.
But yeah, that's sincerity andI hope this doesn't take a turn,

(01:02:31):
um to say this.
But speaking of artists, I amapparently late to this party.
But are you familiar withLindsay Sterling?
No, so I saw her on a Christmasuh show on TV, but when I
talked to my class yesterdayabout it, um, they were like one
friend.

(01:02:52):
One friend, kathy, was likeyears ago before she blew up as
big.
I think she must have been ondancing with the stars or
America's Got Talent orsomething, because she was at
their son's wedding.
So she's an accomplishedviolinist.
She looks a little bit like umJuliana Huff she's like blonde

(01:03:16):
and adorable, beautiful music,modern violin but she's also an
accomplished dancer and she fullon freaking dances while she's
playing the violin.
So she's social media hashelped just push her into the
stratosphere and so she was likeaccompanying somebody famous
like Trisha Yearwood orsomething in this special that I

(01:03:40):
was watching and it was justfantastic.
Amy Grant maybe that's prettycool.
Sterling with an I, I thinkit's S T I R L I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
N G, so now I follow her.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yeah, you found her, she's sharing my screen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Yeah, I want to show you something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Screen sharing.
Oh, I'm looking at choicesphotos on her computer right now
and she shares and I can't waitto see where we're going.
Are we going to see a video?

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
We're almost you're going to see a video.
So Trevor Hall has a violinistand he's been on like for the
last few years.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
He's oh my gosh, look at him go.
I think that's my favoritemusic, whether it's calm or
energetic, like strings areawesome.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
It's funny you say that because Tiffany Lugarelli
apparently plays the piano orsomething.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, she plays the piano, and I'll tell you after
your comment how I know this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
And we started talking about like classical
music instruments kind of youknow, and I was like the violin
makes me cry, like almostimmediately.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
It does.
It's so evocative, like it'slike those strings are your
emotions, that that bow isplaying every time, like I said,
whether it's a slow song orsomething fast or even even
fiddle, like I just love thosestrings, yeah, so back to you
know, my Dolores falling down.
I not so jokingly have said foryears that you know my mom's

(01:05:26):
only bed and bath is up a flightof stairs and at the bottom of
her flight of stairs is a pianothat she inherited from her
friend, eleanor, when Eleanormoved in with her daughter a
dozen years ago or something,and nobody plays it anymore.
My mom, for a minute, took sometricy classes and was going to
play it and I said, if you everfall down the stairs, it's

(01:05:50):
really close to the bottom ofthe stairs, you're going to
crack your head open like awatermelon and I'm going to find
you.
So is it okay to get rid ofthis piano now?
And she's like, yeah, yeah, getrid of the piano.
Well, anybody knows it's noteasy to get rid of a piano,
which is why, thanks, sandy,eleanor gave us the piano.
And I thought, oh, let me askTiffany Luccarelli, because she

(01:06:13):
has that business.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
That's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
And she said send me pictures, send me the maker.
So I took all these pictures.
Turns out the thing is in supergood shape, still even sounds
good and is in tune.
But she said I hate that it'sso hard to get rid of a piano,
because I play piano and I lovepiano.
And I thought Tiffany is justsuch a.
I mean, we've had her on thepodcast.
I don't think we talked abouther piano playing then because

(01:06:38):
we were too busy talking aboutthe dozen other varied things
that she does.
She's like auto mechanic, hasher own business, yogi, all
sorts of variety of things.
So Tiffany is on that for meright now.
She's trying to figure out ahome for that piano.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Sorry, I just looked, I have a Mac.
So my, I have a Mac, I have heron Apple computer, whatever,
and I can get my text and I havefive texts.
So I just wanted to make surethat the world wasn't blowing up
.
We On a tangent, let me I'llget back to that, making a note,
let me finish my Mexicoexperience.

(01:07:32):
So we really Well, Iinterrupted.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
So yes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Oh no, you're fine, we had a really great time.
We got some rest too.
Oh well, James didn't sleepwell and so on Sunday I think it
was Sunday, no, it was Mondayhe was just really tired.

(01:07:56):
And so he's like, can I?
I don't know, it was probablylike one o'clock in the
afternoon.
He's like I feel really bad,but I need to lay down.
I'm like don't worry about it,we're on vacation, you need to
rest.
We've done all the Trevor Hallthings.
It's fine, and I'm going to goto the pool.
There were two pools the biggerpool that had the stage in it

(01:08:16):
and everything, and then therewas another pool that was a
little bit closer to our roomand I'm like I'm just going to
go hang out at that pool.
We had Wi-Fi and everything sohe could text me and it's not
like we wouldn't be able to findeach other, and we had agreed
that we were just not going toleave the resort.
That was never in the plan togo in support of Morales or

(01:08:40):
Cancun or anything like that.
So it was really really hot andsunny and there was one chair
that was under an umbrella, butit was like there were two
chairs under the umbrella andsome lady was just putting her
stuff down.
So I went up to her and said doyou mind if I sit over here?

(01:09:02):
And she goes, not at all.
So we started talking.
She's a meditation teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Oh my gosh.
Well, I guess that's probablythe crowd that was there, right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Yeah, all of the music was similar in the sense
of the type of fans.
It was all positive.
I'm not dissing any other kindof music but, like you know, I
don't know.
It was like a mindfulnesssituation, yeah, and actually,

(01:09:31):
so I'll get back to that pointtoo.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
So the you don't think that they meditate before
the Marilyn Manson concerts theyused to have?

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Maybe she was there with somebody from the road crew
of Dispatch, and they're fromMemphis, not Dispatch.
I think most of the guys inDispatch, what I learned is, are
from Colorado, which is alsowhere Trevor Hall lives.
So I wonder if that's likemaybe their neighbors, I don't

(01:10:01):
know, but the so they had beenthere since Thursday because
they had to right, and a lot ofpeople opted in also to come.
You could do a day earlier,stay a day late, whatever, but
she, you know, she was like wewere kind of getting a little
stir crazy.
So we took a taxi into PortaMorales to get lunch and I'm
like that sounds great Because Imean they had a handful of

(01:10:23):
restaurants and everything wasfine, everything was good.
But like, at some point you'rekind of like here we go again.
You know, yeah, change ofscenery.
But again we had just no plansto leave the resort and we kind
of stuck with that.
So, quite honestly, we couldhave been anywhere in the world
on the ocean.
We didn't really get to seeMexico, which I'm okay with.
But she said that they wereadvised to take a taxi and pay

(01:10:47):
the taxi driver to stay whilethey ate or shopped or whatever.
And she was like so we paid $50for the taxi, so that was like
not a huge deal.
But the reason being with taxiversus the Lyft or Uber whatever
they have there is because thecartels tend to take over Lyft
and Uber and have offed driversevery now and then, and I'm like

(01:11:12):
yeah, Just started drivingaround in their car.
Yeah, I'm like, oh yeah, I'mgood here, but she said she said
they had like other than that.
They felt like other than havingheard that and been advised to
take a taxi like they.
It was an easy trip into townand they felt safe and they had
lunch and they came back and itwas a nice little like break
from the resort.
So I got to we're Facebookfriends now.

(01:11:35):
I felt like you, she's supernice and I chatted with her and
so the other thing I was goingto say is you were asking me
like, did you drink alcohol oranything to do with like my
emotional reaction.
We didn't really see any likesuper shit-faced people.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
If.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
James said he saw one guy in the bathroom that was
really having a hard time.
I will say, though, that onenight we were eating and the
dining room was ridiculouslyloud, which I just thought was
funny.
But, that that serving youdrinks was constant through the
whole thing, Like you couldn'twatch walk five feet down the
beach without somebody being inyour face serving drinks.

(01:12:23):
So we're we're, we're leavingright, we're going home and we
get on the shuttle and we go tothe Cancun airport and we're
un-united.
I think I might have mentionedthis before.
James said I don't care who youfly out on, because it's going
to be an early flight.
They have all day to get usthere if they screwed up, but
get us home on a good airlinebecause you know we everybody

(01:12:46):
gets screwed on the way home.
So, and United had had a reallygood like.
I got a good price for a decenttime of flight.
You know, I think we left.
We left at 1242 and we werehome by 630.
And it's the same time inMexico as it is here, however,
well that's helpful.

(01:13:06):
It's an hour behind in Texasbecause Mexico doesn't do
daylight savings time, becausethey don't have to.
So that was kind of weird.
But we get to the airport andwe had to print that luggage tag
again and we did, and we'releaving on a Tuesday, so the
airport was like very manageableand a, a, a united guy, like

(01:13:28):
between the kiosk and the agentwe were giving our bag to.
Oh, and let me throw out thereSpirit's weight maximum is 40
pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Everyone else is 50.
50, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
And I guess it's your responsibility to know that,
but I think they do.
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Yeah, you get there and you gotta.
I've been there where peopleare trying to like shove stuff
into their carry-on.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Actually I was over by two pounds so I had to shove
some stuff into my purse and itworked, but anyhow, united
wasn't.
And we're going to the desk andthis guy stops us and he's
asking us all kinds of questionsand like we just it was like,
okay, security, you knowwhatever.
And James, everybody justassumes he's Hispanic,
everybody's speaking andMexicans were speaking Spanish

(01:14:14):
to him and he knows Spanishsongs a little bit yeah.
So, and then when he gets alittle bit of sun, it's, it's
even more so.
This guy was asking us where wewere going on vacation and
James like no, no, no, we'regoing home.
And he goes oh, where's that?
And we're like Cleveland.
And then he's like are youflying direct?
And which we thought was justodd.

(01:14:37):
And we're like no, but the onlyairline that flies direct
between Cancun and Cleveland isfrontier.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
United doesn't fly direct.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
And we go no, we're connecting Houston.
He goes why aren't you flyingdirect?
And he said it like that.
It wasn't curiosity, it waslike why aren't you flying
direct?
And we're like we're not.
I don't know.
I might have even said I don'tremember, I might have said like
frontiers, the only airlinethat flies direct, and this was
much better this whole time.
And you know, and he goes, ohokay, so we go to the agent,

(01:15:11):
drop off our bag.
That was easy getting through.
You know, tsa was really easy.
You know the shuttle drops youoff with plenty of time.
So we had like an hour and ahalf to two hours to kill and we
had, we had a couple of drinksand we walked around, we bought
Retin A because it was justthere and you know we shopped a

(01:15:31):
little and whatever, we justkilled some time at the airport.
So I'll say that, right beforewe left Cleveland, I decided not
to take my wedding set, and Iwas.
I was like you're beingparanoid, like we're going to be
at the resort, it doesn'tmatter, you know, but I grabbed
this cubic zirconia that I havethat's.
That's maybe a little bitobnoxious, but it still tells

(01:15:52):
the world that you're married.
Kind of fun, you know, handsoff.
It's too big at me, so I grabbeda roll of Scotch tape too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
And there, there it goes from fancy to Cleveland.
Exactly Scotch tape on a magmaring.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
I wore that for a couple of days but like we were
swimming and I'm constantlyhaving to like retaped this
thing, I'm like this is stupid,I'm just not wearing the ring.
Anyhow, when we were there,there was a jewelry store in the
jewelry with because of theexchange rate, and everything
was was decently priced, and Ibought Ashley this really pretty
, really delicate ring that hadthese really thin stones on it

(01:16:28):
and I was super excited to giveit to her.
It was like it was like $100.
And I bought myself a pair ofearrings and so when I'm packing
I have this like cross body bagthat's like a little bit bigger
than a cell phone, so you canput some credit cards in your
cell phone and in your readingglasses and your and your hotel
room key.
It's great for travel.
So I took the box with the ringand I thought for a second,

(01:16:52):
should I just wear this?
And then I'm like no, it's fine.
Like because I also didn't wantto like get home and be like
surprise, you know, take it offyour finger.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Yeah, here's your used ring, your pre-worn ring.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Yeah, but I didn't think about it too much, right?
So when we packed, I packed inthat into that cross body and I
threw that cubic zirconia in thecross body and threw some other
things in there.
I brought three necklaces withme.
One I had on, one was the oneyou gave me for my birthday last
year, and then what was thethird one?

(01:17:29):
I had a third one as well, butnone of them were.
Everyone had sentimental value.
None of them were like oh, Idon't know, maybe you paid a
million dollars for the necklaceyou gave me no, you told me
about it afterwards and I, yeah,I hadn't realized.
But I put the necklaces in bagsthat zipped separately so they

(01:17:49):
didn't tangle, because I have,for some reason, necklaces
tangle for me no matter what.
And so, like, one was in thetoothpaste and you know
toothbrush and all that bag, andthe other one was in my bag
with my makeup brushes, and youknow we were coming home, so
most of our clothes were dirtyand it wasn't super organized in
our luggage, but you know youhave to pack so that you can get

(01:18:12):
everything in.
So so here we are in theairport and it's getting time to
get on the flight.
So we walk over to our gate andJames goes.
So it was before noon.
Again, we were leaving at 12.42.
They just started boarding.
We had lots of time right, thedoors weren't closing anytime

(01:18:33):
soon, and James goes, I'm goingto and he was pointing.
He's like I'm going to go tothat bathroom and then I'm going
to go to that store right nextto it and get some candy,
because he's like a kid and heneeds candy.
On the plane he gave me hisbackpack, which was this carry
on that had the laptop andeverything, and he's like just
wait for me.
You know, obviously we havetime.
So that same guy that wasquizzing us about our flight's

(01:18:56):
home came up to me and goes whyaren't you boarding?
And I go what?

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
I'm waiting for my husband Now.
Is he dressed in some sort ofairport security uniform?
I think he worked for United.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
If I remember correctly I mean he had a name
badge and stuff and I'm almostpositive it was United.
It could have been TSA, but Ithink it was United.
It just makes sense, thinkingback as he was at the United
counter, he was at the UnitedGate and he goes weird that he
asked about flying direct, yeah,and he was like where's your
husband?
Or like I might have said.
Like he went to the bathroomand he was like when is he
coming?
It was something really odd,creepy, yeah.

(01:19:33):
And I'm like, well, he justwent to the bathroom and he's
getting some candy.
I was trying to like lighten it, yeah, and he goes, and he goes
oh, I go, he'll be right back.
He's literally right over thereand I have his bag and like I'm
just going to wait for him andhe goes this is your zone.
Like how do you know that?
And that's what I wanted to say.

(01:19:54):
But I realized I'm in a foreigncountry.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Right, you don't need to provoke anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Right and I go, okay, but the doors aren't closing
anytime soon.
He goes you need to get in line, so I go to get in Cause.
At that point I'm like okay,I'm just not, I don't want to
deal with all this?
Yeah, you don't want him toargue yeah, so I go to get in
line, and another agent locksthe, the belt thing.
He goes you can't go in here,and I go, and he.

(01:20:23):
And then he went to hiscomputer and they came back and
he goes go ahead.
And at this time, no, we mighthave been at 1202 at this point,
yeah, Jeez.
So at this point James iswalking back and I'm looking
back at him and he's like W2F.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Why are you waiting for me, right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
And I go to you know, and the that agent who that did
the the belt for the line thing.
The second agent agent numbertwo.
He goes boarding pass and we hadjust printed them, even though
we had them on our phonesbecause we printed the luggage
tag and so I gave it to and heliterally like didn't even look
at me.
He scanned it, gave it back andso he's like go ahead.

(01:21:01):
And we got you know, we'rewalking down that that long
thing to the plane.
And James is like what are youdoing?
And I was like I told him thething he goes, are you kidding
me?
I'm like no, and he's likethat's so weird, you know, and
whatever.
So we get on the plane, theplane is not full, like it had a
like.
So that's the one where I thinkI talked about it.
We had two differentitineraries because I booked it

(01:21:21):
on price line and I could onlybook one at a time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Oh right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
So we just both in window seats.
Well, we both had.
We were like three rows awayfrom each other and we both had
the whole, the whole row.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Row, yeah, so we sat down.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
James was like the two seats next to me are open.
If you want to sit here, I'mlike same here.
I'm staying by the window for awhile.
Plus, I would just spent fivedays with you, like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Right, let's.
Let's both just take a littlespace and map yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
And then and I slept on the plane you know I laid
down on the thing, whatever sowe connected in Houston, which
was a really quick flight fromCancun.
We only had 48 minutes andHouston international airport
was also not crazy busy.
We made it through the wholecustoms, got our bag I mean you
don't have to go through thewhole process again but
resubmitted our bag and got ontothe plane, like we walked right

(01:22:10):
onto the plane.
So we weren't in any like, weweren't good not going to make
it, and then we flew home.
So we got.
We got home at like 715, Iwould think, and we take the bag
and we go in the living room toopen it up, to give souvenirs,
because we got Alina some stuffand I was really excited to give
Ashley this ring and my oursuitcase had been, had been

(01:22:35):
searched that was my firstthought.
But there was no TSA tag and myshit was everywhere.
Every bag that had a zipper wasunzipped and shit was everywhere
.
Like there were like cosmeticsand lotions and stuff that were
open and a little bit came out.
You know like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Right, Cause they're not bagged up.
So the pressure and then out.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
there was like somebody took it and squeeze it
like ketchup.
It was just like my bag was amess.
And then I grabbed thatshoulder bag and the box wasn't
in my shoulder bag but the boxin separate parts, like the
cushion that the ring went inwas here, the top of the box was

(01:23:19):
here, the box was here, thering was gone.
Your necklace that you gavewell, the necklace you gave me
was gone and a handful of otherthings were gone, like it was.
So it was just, it was very.
It was such a violated fear, itwas so beautiful to like cause,
the more we went through, we'relike oh my God, this is missing

(01:23:40):
and this is missing and like,and it's just, it's horrible.
And like, as I'm sitting on thefloor, I called United right
away and they, you know, theyasked me for my bag number and
everything and they pulled meright up and I said I think this
happened between Cancun andHouston and he goes is there a
TSA tag in there?

(01:24:01):
I go, no, he was super nice andhe was like I'm gonna open a
claim and just log on to yourUnited mileage account and the
claim will be there.
It was a super easy process.
Everything that was over $100,I needed a receipt for anything
under $100.
I just needed to list.
He said it'll take four to sixweeks and he kind of positioned

(01:24:22):
it as like he didn't say therewas a process or like we'll go
over it and contact you.
I think I think I'm just gonnaget reimbursed.
But that was really hard toobecause, like you don't wanna
feel like you're takingadvantage.
But how do you account for likeopen Aveda products right, like
I had just gone Right, andthey're expensive.

(01:24:43):
I took advantage of I use theirproducts, but I took advantage
of like a Black Friday deal theyhad and I spent like $160
because the shit would last.
Yeah, you know, like I bought alot of stuff for a really good
price.
Yeah, what's up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
But yeah, you're not gonna have a receipt for
anything.
I mean, I bought you thatnecklace as a gift for your 50th
birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Right, so I put-.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I know I can't come up with a receipt.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Well, I just put $75 for the necklace.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
For everything.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
And then like costume , or I think I'd put costume
jewelry.
I had to do it a couple oftimes because I had other
jewelry in there.
They took that cubic zirconiaring, and I think that that's
what my guess is it went throughsome kind of x-ray machine and
somebody saw this rock.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
And they thought it was big and then and then it was
a diamond, and it's becausethat was gone too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
So somebody has a cubic zirconia with tape around
it.
Yeah, sex-based.
Who would put that in a bag?

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Did you mention to the United Phone Agent that you
opened the claim with about kindof the creepy guy and why you
thought it happened betweenTexas and-.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
I might have, but that wasn't the concern on the
phone.
It sounded to me like.
So my concern on the phone waslike my stuff.
It sounded to me like when heasked me if there was a TSA tag

(01:26:12):
in there that this might happenin Mexico.
Sure, a little bit Like thiswasn't a surprise to him, right?
It was me making an assumption.
But also on that claim, itreferenced the flight from
Cancun to Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
It didn't say anything about Houston to
Cleveland, and so I just likehave you ever had TSA go through
your-.
Yeah, yeah, so they'll do theyalways put a thing in there and
you're just marginally annoyedbecause it's not crazy
disorderly.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Well, they don't pack things up like you do, and I
just had a Facebook memory lastweek of I posted years ago
picture of a TSA tag sayingevery time I fly and it's always
more annoying.
So I get a little bit, I guess,anal about packing and where my

(01:27:10):
stuff is in organization.
God knows why.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Yeah, no, I don't have that.
I don't have that issue.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
If you wanna touch my dirty clothes I have at it.
So I haven't heard back fromUnited Yet, but it's been what
two or three weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
And it's such a bummer because it was such a
feel good, peaceful, mindfulthing, and then to be so just
criminalized on the way home.
I mean, your things importantto you were stolen.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
I can't get that ring .
I was so excited to get Ashleythis ring and she, like I, just
knew she would like it she's nota huge jewelry person at all
and she was bummed and she wasvery understanding when she was
bummed and she goes.
I put rings on my Christmaslist because I don't have any

(01:28:04):
and so I can't go online.
And I actually looked at thatto see if I could find something
and I can't.
But the other thing I this kindof ran into was the day before
no, was it the day beforeThanksgiving?
Or Thanksgiving morning, jameswent to make something for to

(01:28:28):
take over my brother's house,our oven broke.
Oh yeah, so didn't upset me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Right, all you need is your rice cooker.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Well, no, yeah for popcorn.
And then, of course, I'm likeit can be fixed, let's just get
it fixed.
And James was like when did youbuy it?
And I'm like, oh yeah, 2007 oreight, like it feels like
yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
But no, and appliances do not last anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Yeah, and so it's what?
What is that 15,?

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
16 years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
I don't do the recreational math.
Yeah, I'll do that, do it onthe iPhone, but so 16 years ago,
I think, and so we Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
It's so funny to hear you say a year like that and
realize that it's 16 orsomething years ago.
It's like no, I'm, I still feellike.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Right, that was yesterday yeah.
So now, now we, well, we are ina situation where we need a new
oven.
And so Costco had this oven,this kind of fancy oven with an
air fryer, and maybe it's notfancy with an air fryer built in
.
We use the air fryer all thetime.
So it was like, oh, we could,we could reclaim some counter

(01:29:42):
space.
And you know, and I go do itwas a couple hundred dollars
more, I think it was like $900versus like a without it it was
like five or $600.
Like we really want to do thatif we're going to sell this
house soon, like we're not goingto take the oven with us, you
know, and he goes, well, it'llbe a selling point.
And he's like, but seriously,we use air fryer all the time.
Like it's, yeah, in the grandscheme of things, is a couple

(01:30:05):
hundred dollars.
We're really going to make adifference, you know.
And so so we ordered it.
I ordered it on cascocom andand it was like the earliest
date they had for delivery wasDecember 23rd, which today is
the 21st, so that's this is aThursday, so it's a Saturday,

(01:30:25):
also the day before ChristmasEve.
So that was kind of a littlebit like it's going to be a
really hectic weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
but it's really busy oven for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Right, and so I bought it and I have not been
charged for it, have not heardanything about it, cause when
you buy it it says like itincludes delivery and
installation and the removal ofthe other oven and you will be
contacted, cause they usesubcontractors to do this right.
I haven't been contacted at all.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
I haven't even been charged so.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
I'm not really upset about it Like because but but
I'm thinking we may not haveenough.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Probably not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Yeah, have you tried.
Yet have you reached back outto follow up?

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Yeah, all Costco yesterday or the day before and
was just like I called the onein strong.
So I'm like like I don't evenknow who to ask.
And they're like they gave me anumber different number for
online stuff and and itbasically has you put your order
number in and it's like, yeah,scheduled delivery is December
23rd.
Okay, well, that's promisingAny time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Costco recording like any Right, but I mean at least
it like I was afraid you weregoing to find.
They would be like, I'm sorry,fiyalca who.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Because yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
But I hold James.
I'm like I have a feeling we'rejust going to have it.
Somebody's going to drop off anoven on the porch, you know,
like the rest of the AmazonCostco Pull out your tool belt,
janitor James, and we're goingto or and then we're going to
have two ovens.
And he goes no, it's part of theservice, that's part of what

(01:31:57):
you bought, it's included.
So I'm like, but they haven'tcalled, with a time, like we
have no human.
And so yesterday or thismorning or something, I got an
email saying like your, yourorder is on the way, oh.
And I clicked on it.
I said scheduled to bedelivered December 23rd.
Okay, good.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Somebody has to be home.
I don't know when, but it'sjust Just all day.
Good talk, right, but boy V.
Yeah, the other ownership is sooverrated yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
The other thing I did well since we last podcasted,
because that's really when Italked to you is I joined
Function Health.
Have you heard of this?

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
I have heard of this, but tell me more, and I'm
trying to think of why I heardof it or who was talking to me
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Dr Mark, Hyman is that functional medicine doctor
who worked for the clinic.
He may still be affiliated withthe clinic somehow he worked
for Canyon Ranch but he's a verylike.
He was well ahead of his time.
He's in his 60s now and he waswell ahead of his time with and
he's he's been on.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
He probably has his own podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
He does.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
It's called the doctor's pharmacy and it is
fantastic.
Yeah, he's been on with some ofour favorites, like Mel Robbins
and maybe Glennon.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Oh, really, yeah, he's in the Huberman lab, which
is, I think, where I found him.
He was on that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
I've been listening to his podcast for a while but
he is one of the founders ofFunction Health and essentially
they do blood tests and do awhole comprehensive panel of
blood tests that you don't getwith traditional health care,
because in traditional healthcare you have to have a symptom

(01:33:55):
in order for a blood test to beordered and you know, how I feel
about doctors in traditionalhealth care, and so they had
this on sale because it's in thebeta version for 4.99.
And James and I have beentalking about because this isn't
the only place, right Mm-hmmFound this in the summer.
I'm like I'm just doing itbecause I have more questions

(01:34:20):
than he does because of my ageand menopause and all of the
things.
So I had my first blood drawactually the Friday you were in
the hospital, so the Fridayafter we got back from Mexico.
And then they do the second onea week later to get a baseline.
Compare things, do they?

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
have you fast for these or no?

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Yeah, and they have you stop taking any supplements
like three days ahead of time.
So actually, since I had theblood draw within a week, I just
didn't take any supplements atall and that really had like one
day I was so tired.
I think it really had an effecton me.
Like I take vitamin D andwhatever I take a handful of one
, but yeah, they do over 100plus biomarkers.

(01:35:05):
The initial results will bedelivered in one to two weeks
and then they're posted on thewebsite and then if they find
something like that warrantsimmediate something's wrong,
something's really spiked.
That.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Oh scary.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
They reach out right away.
So I don't think I'm there,because it'll be two weeks
tomorrow from my second bloodtest.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
And then they'll retest you in six months and
then they have somebody liketheir customer service is
amazing, but they will talkthrough it with you.
They have this whole thing thatyou can read on your login on
how to read everything and whatto do, and so right now, when I
log in, it's like your tests arebeing processed, and so things

(01:35:53):
that they'll fill in are theyhave a drop down menu Foods you
should enjoy, foods youshouldn't avoid, self care, and
supplements.
They'll make recommendationsand then they test 11, there's
15 tests that have to do withyour heart six for metabolic, 11
for female health.

(01:36:13):
There's thyroid nutrients,autoimmunity, there's like this
whole thing.
So I'm really interested to seewhere this falls.
Now this he had a guy who's alsoa doctor, peter or I can't
remember his last name, whostarted a company a while ago
called Fountain Health and hewas on one of his latest

(01:36:36):
podcasts on the doctor'spharmacy, and they have this
whole comprehensive system ofstate of the art MRI machinery
where they literally do wholebody scans and they offer a type
of insurance as well.
So I jumped on that and gotinformation on both, and the

(01:36:58):
insurance they offer companiesis only for companies with 50 or
more employees, so that waskind of a bummer.
But their thing is for $19,000a year you can go get this full
body scan and have 100% medicalcare with that at their

(01:37:19):
facilities.
Now, granted, they're onlyfacilities.
I think they have like eight,but one's in LA, one's in Naples
, one's in White Plains, newYork, Like they're all over the
country.
Maybe there's Moutique medicine, here it comes, but it's so
much more proactive.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Sure, but the average person probably can't access it
.
So that's what's happening,because they've given us choices
that are untenable the way itis.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
So if you have the means and the money or you're
willing to put aside for that,but if you have a situation that
you're taking care of and youhave to meet your deductible
because health insurance prettymuch sucks, I mean, unless
you're paying a high cost-.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Oh, either way, yeah, you're going to pay that, for
sure, you're going to pay, Right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
So is it that-.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
Where are you going to go, though?
Right Is it that out of reach.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
But if you have it's not.
But where are you going to go?
You have to go to their places.
Right so there's that, but likethe level-.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
But there's aid in the country.
That's a lot.
I mean, that's a lot to dealwith, right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
But this is going to keep growing and there are other
companies right, so the costswill eventually go down.
And then their other option isI think it's $9,000 to just do
the imaging without the so thatwould be for somebody who has
health care who-.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Who can afford the?

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
$9,000 imaging so they can take that information
to their doctors.
But this is fascinating to meand it makes so much more sense.
Granted, we don't have 40 grandto go do this, but I did have a
Zoom call with Fountain Healthyesterday and this lady was

(01:39:03):
really so nice and she was supercute.
She was like she had I believeshe had like a Spanish or some
kind of Latino accent, and sowhen we were talking about like
where I live and where theseplaces were, you know she had

(01:39:24):
just like randomly LA, whitePlains of York, naples.
she was in Naples and so whilewe were on the Zoom I was
looking up how far White Plainsis and it's a drive it's like
nine or 10 hours.
But just out of curiosity, andso at the end we talked about

(01:39:44):
like location and everything.
And she goes, I go.
Well, I looked at the she'slike where are you at?
I go Cleveland and I go.
I think the White Plains wouldbe the closest you know, if I
did this and she goes.
Well, we're also openinganother one in Northern
California, this in 2024.
So I don't know if that's anycloser.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
And I thought I was bad at geography.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
And then she goes and I just I kind of laughed, like
you know, and she goes.
This is the first time I'velived in the United States.
I just moved from London.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
And I was like so.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
I'm about a 16 hour drive directly north from where
you're at right now, likethere's snow and everything and
she goes.
Where's California?
It's way west.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
About a 24 hour drive maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
Yeah, like way west of both of us.
Like it was really funny, Likeit was a funny conversation.
So I just I basically, you know, said it I'll talk to my
husband, you know.
But I also was, like you know,I did function health and I
think what I'm going to do issee what those results are.
And I kind of just told her,like this is something that will
definitely keep in mind, maybefor next year, the year after or
whatever.
I didn't say this, but, likeyou know, they even said on the

(01:40:56):
podcast that the prices will godown, because everything always
costs a million dollars whenit's brand new, Sure, but this
is just such a great indicationof how health care is shifting.
I think I hope so, and it'spreventive.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
It's not like Preventive right, but so I mean
that can't be in the absence ofother health care for you,
because what if you need to goby ambulance for something, if
you fall and have a brain bleedand need brain surgery?
You got to go, you're going toget sent right over to your
mom's friends.
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
And have them take care of you?

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
I know, so not having so you're, so, you're still
going to have to pay for.
That is what I'm saying at themoment as well you, you still
need to take me to Naples.
We will charter a private jet.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
Yeah, I'll go to the helipad and your neighboring
neighborhood Blue Ridge MountainClub.
So the not having health care,so we don't have health
insurance, and that is not thelong term plan, nor are we 100%
comfortable with it, because ofexactly what you're talking
about.
We're banking on the fact thatwe're both pretty healthy and

(01:42:08):
and very, you know, not accidentprone, but, but again, it's not
.
It's not the long term plan andif we have an emergency of some
sort, then then we have madethe decision to deal with it.
You know like that's and whatare the chances of us having an

(01:42:30):
emergency that's going to costmore than the $14,000 deductible
that we would have To pay in,in addition to the six or $700 a
month for health insurance.
So for those of you guys outthere who don't own a small
business like that's basicallywhere we're at.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Yeah, so it is what it is and and but, like when we
have to go to the doctor, likeJames uses he has used Web MD
here and there and that's likewhen he's had like a bad cold or
a sore throat that wouldn't goaway or whatever, and that's so
easy, and it's like $50 a popand they don't deal with

(01:43:12):
insurance.
You know, or maybe they do, butin this case they didn't.
When I have gone to get like myfemale exams and whatever, it's
like $300.
And With health insurance, Iwould have had to pay a copay
Anyhow.
It's just like I I understandwhat you're saying and that's
what we struggle with, but it'skind of like it's like a gamble

(01:43:34):
that you take and yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
yeah, it is a gamble and you know accidents happen.
I mean, a car accident would besomething you wouldn't have
control over, but could becatastrophically expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
But we have auto insurance Right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
But if you were horrifyingly injured, I'm saying
yeah, but wouldn't autoinsurance cover that I?
Don't know.
I mean because if you hitsomebody and you hurt somebody,
your auto insurance would cover.
But don't they like sue yourDoesn't?
Don't you have to sue your?

(01:44:11):
Your insurance has to sue theirinsurance for the medical bills
or something.
I don't know if it goes aseasily as is paying the medical
bills.
I don't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
But you're right, yeah, it's just a.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
It's all a sketchy system we are.
Jeff is self employed, doesn'thave Other employees, and so
we've always done like a coupleof things, done like a cozy or
an association group.
We too are healthy, have a highdeductible plan and it is still

(01:44:46):
freaking ridiculously expensivemonthly premiums.
Huge high deductibles, it's,it's so it's just shoveling
money down a pit and again we'rehealthy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
As time marches on.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
we're going to get less and less healthy and older,
so it's just, that's a.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Yeah, I just got a quote a couple of weeks ago from
cozy and you know, on the lowerrange of affordable.
I'm saying that with air quotesoptions like again the
deductible it's probablysomething similar to what you're
on is ridiculous.
And then the ones with thelower deductible, which I think
the lowest deductibles, likeeight grand, is a ridiculously

(01:45:28):
high premium.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
So I mean either way, you're going to pay just those
thousands and thousands.
So you're right, your class isdouble that's.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
that means we have health insurance.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Right and your point is right about the, the amount.
That's not even my concern.
My concern is if there's notenough facilities for you to go
to should an accident occur.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
Who pays for that?
You?
Know we would yeah, so, so,yeah, so there'd be more.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
I mean, I have, you know, about 80 grand laying
around, just in case.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
Yeah, I mean, if you need an ambulance, it's, it's.
It's kind of hilarious how thezeros just add up as if Right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
Yeah.
So are you ready for Christmas?
No, Me neither.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
We've paired it way down in my family in the last
few years, other than Dolores,who refuses to cooperate.
We have all decided to choosenames for each other, except for
the youngest generation.
Everybody can buy for, sothat's helped a lot.
I don't know when it happenedto me, but I have no love for

(01:46:41):
this time of year.
I don't mind the Christmasmovies, I don't mind the
Christmas music.
I love to see the lights.
I don't want to do any of it.
I had one little cocktail withmy BFF yesterday.
We both accidentally ended upshopping in the same area, so we
met up.
I told her I think I'm just sofreaking lazy that if nobody's

(01:47:02):
coming to my house for Christmas, they don't.
There is no way in hell I'mgoing to go through putting up
decorations and trees and wrap,only to take it down and annoy
my lazy self by having to put itall away.
So I just that, combined withall of the emotions, are very

(01:47:23):
close to the surface for me.
They're happy, they're high,they're joyful, they're low.
I'm fat, I'm drinking, I'meating carbs, I'm traveling, I'm
eating carbs and some that Idon't, and it's just too much
For me.
Put the pillow over my head andwake me when it's January.

(01:47:44):
Yeah, so Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas.
This is why I grinch that yourmean one is in my playlist this
week.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
The closer gosh I have tears in my eyes now.
The closer we get, the morestress I get to, and it really
has to do with my family andalthough my relationship with my
mom is manageable but somewhatdisappointing you can go back a

(01:48:17):
few podcasts and listen to thereasons why and I think I
finally allowed my eyes to beopen this year to some things
and my relationship with mybrothers individually are okay.
You know they're pretty good.
I see my one brother all thetime and the other one lives in

(01:48:39):
Illinois and isn't the mostcommunicative.
You can send him a text andhe'll respond a week later and
he and his wife, I think, alwayshave their phone on.
Do not disturb which part of mereally is jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Right Kudos to you for doing the boundaries thing
and living your life.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
But sometimes I need to know how you're doing.
So could you just text me back?
And it's such a.

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
We have all these terms now in our self-talk.
You're trying to do theboundaries thing, but you're
also trying to be a member of afamily or a community and you're
also trying to be a person whoOkay, boundaries are one thing,
but if you're feeling likeyou're a good person, especially
at this time of year, aren'tyou also wanting to go the extra
mile for people, reach out topeople, help people when they

(01:49:35):
need you?
So you're going to have tobreach your own boundary if
somebody needs something of you,even though you don't have time
to give it right now.
You want to be a good person,so it's just a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
So it's funny because I was talking to Jamie, I think
the other day about how myrelationship with my brothers I
mean not as individually hasbeen strained at different times
over the years, and thatstresses me out.
How is it going to be this year?
And literally the next day, mybrother, brian, texted me and

(01:50:11):
this is the one who rarely textsand so it was just like, hey,
how are you doing?
And I screenshot it and sent itto Jamie and I'm like was Siri
listening?
How did this happen?

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Oh, it's true, right, you feel like that, like what
the heck?

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
Yeah, so they're coming in with the baby, which
is going to be so awesome, butnow Jude's sick.
Jude's been sick for a coupleof days and, unless his fever
breaks, they were supposed tocome in tomorrow and it looks
like they're going to come in onSaturday unless Jude is sick
and hopefully he'll get over it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
There are still a few days yeah.
And it is for the kids.
You have Alina and Jude, andyour niece and nephew your other
niece and nephew here, and itis, I mean it.
Christmas is fun through achild's eyes and Alina doesn't
understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
It's entirety.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
This year is going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
So she is pumped, Excited, yeah, yeah, she cannot
wait.
And we were talking about thismorning three more sleeps and
Santa and all the things.
So and Ashley's pretty excitedtoo.
And you know, Ashley wastelling me the other day like
I'm so excited this year becauseshe got some gifts.
She's really excited to giveand that always feels really

(01:51:23):
good when you know that you kindof nailed it.
And then I get irritated with mymom because my mom is like on
gifts, Like she was irritatedwith me because I never got her
a list and so she startedtexting Ashley.
Like she started blowing upAshley's phone, Like you got to
tell me what to you know,whatever.
And again like if you see me,all the time I can't think of a

(01:51:44):
gift to give.
You know, like have you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
Yeah and here's and right, you're not that hard to
buy for.
You have lots of interests andwell, here's something funny too
.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
So she goes to my hairdresser and my hairdresser
goes to music festivals andshe's follows bands, and so we
have that in common.
And I sent her that samepicture of.
I sent that picture with TrevorHall to several people and my
mom apparently had her hair done, because she always goes to my
hairdresser, no matter who myhairdresser is while I was in

(01:52:17):
Mexico, apparently, and Denisesaid it looks like Joyce is
having a really good time.
She sent me a photo of her withTrevor Hall and my mom goes oh,
she didn't send me that.
And then Denise showed her andshe goes oh, is that Trevor Hall
?
And so why would I send you apicture of James and I and some

(01:52:37):
random dude for one?
And why wouldn't you ask, likeshe just said something that
looks like you guys are havingfun, like here's some, and
texting makes it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:50):
There's another level of are we, how are we?
Are we frosty?
Are we being passive,aggressive?
Was this completely innocent?
It's all?
And then that whole old way weused to buy, like that's what I
really used to hate is that Ineed something else for this
person, because I have threethings for the brother or sister
, and so what can I get?
And then at the end we end upbuying each other such stupid

(01:53:12):
shit to say that we bought thisshit.
I don't know why I'm sayingshit so many times either.
I really want to stop swearingso much in the coming year.
I don't see it happening Ifthere's a person who's sort of
outdoorsy and loves nature andwildlife and you don't need a
big gift for them, but you wantsomething cool.
I just saw this yesterday.

(01:53:32):
Jeff and I went to the mall tosay we went to the mall, we
bought absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
But James and I were at the mall separately yesterday
, Like really we were there lastnight, like till five or six
maybe.
Oh, I probably left around, wewere maybe there before Four to
four it's very manageable.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
So there's that one store.
I think it's downstairs andit's all of the local.
Can't think of the name of it.
I'm from the clear.
No, not the clothes and stuff.
It's got like crafts and oliveoil and pottery, something like
I made this or no, it's just aone word.

(01:54:14):
It's not combined, but somethinglike that.
But anyway, there is a balllike a wire ball and inside it
is alpaca wool, I guess you callit.
It's just to hang from a treefor the birds to use to make
their nests Little fibers ofalpaca wool and I thought that's

(01:54:37):
a gift for somebody specific,that you don't know what to get.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
That's a great idea.
I didn't buy it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
I wanted to buy it, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
And again, the mall is very manageable.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Oh yeah, because there's nobody there and there's
nothing there and the serviceis terrible, so I'm just going
to have to go to the mall.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
Yeah, I actually, after we're done recording, I'm
going to Pinecrest.
James calls it Pinehurst, hejust can't get it right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Pinehurst.
That's a golf course which isnot on his radar.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
But no, he long story , but he wanted to go shopping
last Saturday.
He wanted to go to Pinehurst.
He thought that'd be a goodplace to shop, and don't you
want to come with me?
And I'm like well, I don't knowwhat you're going, what's the
plan here?
He didn't have a plan.
He thought I'd figure that outand I'm like so.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
I've never Walk around and see lights and feel
like you went Christmas shopping, but chances of you actually
getting something are not good.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
Well, and I've not ever shopped there, aside from
like Whole Foods, and I've beento there.
It's the Asian restaurant wehave in Strongsville, right
there up the street we go to allthe time.
I want to say is it Bonchan?
Maybe I?

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
Well, I have their app.
I'm going to just have tofigure it out because it's
making me nuts.
So I'm like what?
Anyhow, we ended up at Ashley'sshop there, bbbop.
So Ashley has shopped there andI go Ash, is it, are we going
to be able to get Christmaspresents there?
She goes no, I think it's moreof a place you'd go to buy stuff

(01:56:28):
for yourself or your own house,because they're very high in
stores.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
So a lot of things, yeah, like fun shopping, but
probably not Christmas gift.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
Right and like if you're going to get something
high in for someone's house, Ifeel like they should pick it
out.
You know what I mean?
We're not going to spend $100on everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
I can use a nice area rug for my basement in North
Carolina, Joyce.
Sure Well, I'll get that foryou at the time of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
So somehow and then Alina was upset that we were
leaving so somehow we all fourof us ended up at TJ Maxx on
Chagrin in Beechwood, which is afit Now, that's my jam, that's
a great TJ Maxx.
And then the thing was we'regoing to go with you to get,
we're going to help her get apresent for Ashley, and then
we'll split.

(01:57:15):
So they drove separately andwhatever, and she, she couldn't
focus on getting anything forAshley because she wanted, she's
like well, I want this.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
All the shiny fancy things.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
But it was kind of fun for a minute and then we
went to that target that used tobe Whole Foods, which is a
target, and then we were able tosplit and James and I went to
Pinehurst and we, we went, andso we have this thing called
FiacaLogix.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
You know my last name is Fiaca.
Yes, I've heard I'm familiarwith Fiaca, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
So FiacaLogix is just very funny logic.
But before we even left he'slike I think we need to use
FiacaLogix and have a couple ofdrinks before we shop so we make
good present buying decisions.
I was like, yeah, I'm up forthat, we can go have some drinks
and shop, you know.
So we started at Sassy BrewWorks and it was fun that the
guy was playing guitar.
He took requests, he playedDave Matthews and he didn't know

(01:58:14):
to Trevor Hall was.
So I wrote it down and put itin his little donation box.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
Add this to your repertoire, sir, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
So we walked around.
We went into REI becauseneither one of us had been in
REI, and so we were checkingeverything out.
And he tried on a PatagoniaNano jacket, which is their most
popular little puff jacket, andhe liked it.
Then he looked at the tag andit was $239.
Right, and he goes what makesthis special?

(01:58:44):
And I go I don't know, but itlooks just like the Columbia
jacket.
You took off to try that one onand I'm not dissing anything,
Like, it's just Right.
And a sales guy was right by usand he goes it's because
they're so popular.
He goes trust me, it's a greatjacket, it is, it's durable,
it's warm, and that one he saidhe called it a two-season, like

(01:59:05):
a fall and a spring, but it'sreally because it's so popular.
And James is like, oh, and thenthe guy was trying to sell it
to him and James is like, yeah,I don't know if, like, I don't
want to spend $230 on a jacketthat looks just like this jacket
.
So we went on with the night.
We shopped somewhere, we endedup having dinner at San Pebbles,

(01:59:30):
which is an Asian restaurant.
That was really good, and thenwe went home without buying
anything and on the way homehe's like I want that jacket.
And I'm like, are you serious?
And he's like, yeah, I reallylike it.
I can't like I would wear that.
So now I'm torn between like doI get him that?
Or one thing he's been talkingabout throughout the year, which

(01:59:50):
would be more of a surprise, ishe wants a toolbox like a tool
bed for his truck, so it goesacross the bed.
You know how he loves his truckWhoa now.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
And.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
I'm all about having a place to put all of his tools
because, they are not alltogether.
We'll just put it that way.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Girl future to the choir.
I think that's a great idea, soI was.
Maybe we can find a Patagoniasale after the holiday.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
Well, and a guy at I was talking about this in
Brexville and the guy atBrexville was like I get my
Patagonias on eBay.
I'm like oh, that's a fantasticidea and I found a brand new
one for $80.
But it's not.
It wouldn't be here in time soI haven't ordered it, but like
that's an option if you reallywant the jacket, or later?

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
Yeah, if he really wants it.
I got my girl, my daughter's inlaw, patagonia gift cards as
part of their Christmas presentlast year because I knew they
were both had their eye onsomething.
But yeah, you hate to spend$300 on something.
Speaking of overpriced jackets,if I may, there's been an
athletic extra small.
Yes, jacket Lack, and I want tosay it's in our lost and found,

(02:01:04):
but it's really just beenhanging right there where
whoever took it off for longtime now.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
This happens every year where one or two coats will
just hang there for a while,there's nothing.
Nothing in the pockets and Idon't know.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
I checked too for identification, yep Of some sort
.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
Speaking of which, somebody came in for their first
class this past Tuesday eveningand left their wallet, and so
that was Natalie's class and shewas texting me.
She's like I hope this is okay.
I went in the wallet, she gaveme the lady's name and I'm like
I'll text her.
So I went on our app and textedhim like hey, this is Joyce
from Modern Yoga.
You left your wallet.
I just want you to know becauseyou need to know right?

(02:01:41):
And she goes.
Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
I was going to call, but Ididn't think anybody would be
there.
And can I come and pick it uptomorrow?
I'm like, yeah, it's on thedesk in the office.
It's still there.

Speaker 2 (02:01:56):
And it's the week of Christmas.
What?
Maybe she's just Amazon-ing allher gifts?
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:02:03):
Come get your wallet Right.
So I'm on South Park's.
I'm trying to figure out whatthe store was that you were
talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
It's like one word, like unified or combined, or
market, or like something that,if you think about it, would
indicate that you've got a placewhere a lot of different
crafters sell their wares, and Ithink it's downstairs, I don't
know if it's near Macy's andmaybe, maybe I'll have to look
at the map, because I'm not.

Speaker 1 (02:02:38):
Nothing's jumping out at me.
It's not bungee bounce, no.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
But it's got like I said.
There are screen printed shirts, there's the guy that makes
clocks out of hubcaps.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
There's really nice things and some strange, not so
nice things.
I thought he left.
He told me he was leaving whenwe took our bath and break, and
now he heard the wholeconversation about the Patagonia
jacket.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
No, and he has FOMO.

Speaker 1 (02:03:07):
I was downstairs.

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
Oh, did you hear the other thing too.

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
I didn't hear anything.
Oh good, Don't listen to thispodcast.
What are you saying Justprocess it, are you?

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
I was just wondering is this the podcast?
You're going over South ParkMall?
No, james, as a matter of fact.
Well, I went there and Iremember the stories she was
talking about.
But, thank you, yeah, what's?

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
a name.

Speaker 2 (02:03:32):
You don't remember what it was called?
No, you're allowed to help.
Some homemade jams, some oliveoil, some awesome live edge wood
cutting boards that are localor that can have Ohio emblazoned
.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
I know exactly what you're talking about and I do
not see that I would recognizethat name.
I was at Dry Goods for thefirst time yesterday.
How come I have not found thatbefore?
That's a great store that Ireally had to.
Where is that?
It's on the bottom, is it onthe bottom?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
Okay, I remember now I'm gonna cross with.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
Sunglass Hut.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
Also, who's buying their sunglasses at Sunglass Hut
?
Anybody you know?

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
No, but I have a story, a Sunglass Hut story, to
tell the people who have made itthis far.

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
Oh boy, kind of gross .
If you're still here,congratulations.

Speaker 1 (02:04:27):
So years ago I bought James.
This is when we both had jobsworking for other people.
I bought James a pair of MauiJim sunglasses and they were
pretty expensive and I think Iended up getting in a
conversation with thesalesperson because whoever was

(02:04:48):
being rung up before me it wastaking a while, like there was
like an issue, so we were justchatting.

Speaker 2 (02:04:53):
I can't imagine you getting in a conversation Right.

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
And the security person came in and talked to
them for a minute and then leftand I go do you guys get a lot
of theft here?
And she goes we get more theftthan any other store.

Speaker 2 (02:05:08):
And because they're sunglasses.

Speaker 1 (02:05:13):
Some lady recently had come in with a stroller and
potentially a child I don'tremember if there was a child in
the stroller Somehow put a pairof sunglasses inside herself,
oh, and security caught them,had to bring them back to

(02:05:36):
Sunglass Hut so that the managerof Sunglass Hut and the
security guard could witnessthem removing the sunglasses and
identify them.
Yeah, wow, big shout out toretail workers.

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
Right, I was just going to say I remember working
downtown years ago.
My work's, by public square andacross the sort of park, was a
Dillard's, and I remembershopping on my lunch hour and a
woman had a baby stroller withno baby in it and she just

(02:06:18):
swiped her hand across a bunchof handbags and took them out
onto public square and thecashier went and chased her.
And that's what I was thinking.
It's like, girl, they are notpaying you enough to chase a
shoplifter out onto publicsquare in downtown Cleveland.
Great, they're not.
Let Dillard's take that loss.
You don't need to worry aboutlife in limb.

(02:06:40):
Wow, yeah, I don't know whyanybody tries anything anymore
with all the cameras we havearound, although some people are
quite successful.
I would not be one of thosepeople.

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
Speaking of which, I bought some winter hats at
Costco.
They had a package of two, andI did the self-checkout and
accidentally rung it up twice.
So the next time I went in, Ijust went to customer service
and was like hey, I rung this uptwice.
I was just wondering if youwould consider refunding one.

(02:07:16):
But I totally get it, it's not.
I think they were $11, whatever.
I'm here.
I just figured I'd give it atry.
I took my receipt, copied itand said that they would review
it on the security cameras andthen reach out to me.
And so I stopped at the Costcoin Mayfield a lot on the way

(02:07:39):
home from my brothers and Ihaven't heard from them yet.
Nor am I stressed about it.
It is what it is, but I justthought that was really
interesting, especially for sucha low ticket item to put that
much effort into it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
Exactly, but to your point.
You think they would just sayto your point, there's two on
your receipt.
You went to the trouble ofcalling back or coming back up
to the counter.
So yeah, but it's funny, acouple of years ago around
Easter time I got Duncan giftcards for my sister and my niece
and when they went to use themthey didn't work.
So I had to go back and theperson on the shift was like no,

(02:08:17):
you have to speak to ourmanager.
And they were like 25 buckseach.
So we're talking about $50.
I was first surprised thatnobody was empowered, but I
understand store manager.
So I talked to the storemanager.
She takes down all the info.
The kid who sold them to meremembers he goes.
I remember her coming in.
They just were not activatedproperly.

(02:08:38):
You know what I mean.
On the thing I proved, I had myreceipt, I had my credit card
statement.
That store manager had to emailcorporate or call corporate.
She shared with me the emailthat corporate answered with her
.
Can we verify this, that andthe other?
And I'm like my gosh.
Nobody on the local or regionallevel is empowered to credit

(02:09:03):
$50 when I have all of thisproof.
So it took like a week.
And then of course they did,and the store manager gave me a
cup of coffee for my trouble.
But I was like, yeah, I feellike it used to be.
People were a little more likeyears ago, when I worked at Cox
Cable in customer service, I wasempowered to make a number of

(02:09:28):
dollars of accommodation ifsomething made sense.
Yeah, Wow, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
That's just up.
So much, though, so well hey,it just happened to you One of
our students actually it's kindof funny several.
So we have three yoga studentsthat one works at NHR at Giant
Eagle, one works in managementat Dave's supermarket and one is
management at Heinem's and Iwant to introduce them all to

(02:09:59):
each other.

Speaker 2 (02:10:00):
Right.
Those are such three differentsituations, but the one who
works at Dave's, who you knowvery well.
Their theft rate is insane,Right and those right in
neighborhoods where there arepeople are food insecure.
So they're, yes, they'restealing to eat and also to

(02:10:22):
steal.

Speaker 1 (02:10:24):
But the one who works at Giant Eagle was saying how
they have had an increase intheft and this is part of the
reason why the cost of food hasgone up, in addition to the cost
of everything else likeshipping and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:10:42):
And even though you're on camera, with all the
self-checkout or the appcheckout, it's not that hard to
slip in some extras, right?

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
I mean, the camera might be looking at you, but if
you're good at sleight of hand,Well, and then again like if
you're putting a well, I don'tknow how much candy bars cost a
$2 candy bar in your pocket Isit worth the management at the
supermarket to pursue?

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
versus putting a $300 pair of sunglasses in your hua
Right that one's worth pursuingfor so many reasons.

Speaker 1 (02:11:16):
Yeah, but it's really sad, though you know, like I
don't know, Like it's just likeyou just don't.
I guess, as a consumer, youdon't really think about these
things until because becauseyou're not you know if you're
not stealing Right, Justirritated because the food is
going up so much, and and youand it makes sense.
I mean, we're paying foreverybody's cost of theft, right

(02:11:39):
, and it's just that all likewash out.
But I can honestly say, in thealmost eight years we've been
open in Strongsville, I knowthat we've had one shirt stolen
and it was like during this timeand it was a shirt that had an

(02:12:01):
open back and like we wereselling them like crazy and we
only had one left and it wasmedium and it was there before
my class and then it wasn'tafter my class and I didn't sell
it and so, but that is the onlyinstance that and, honestly too
, like we've had one shoe mix upthat didn't resolve itself, and

(02:12:25):
so, other than I mean, ourcommunity is just so amazing and
yeah, it's just, it's just acrazy, crazy thing is
unfortunate things that we haveto think about.
But it's been nice catching upwith you.
Zoom has its best off.
So our plan I don't know wecould potentially get this is

(02:12:48):
for the podcast audience.
Mary Beth and I are figuringthis out in the moment.
Are we going to podcast nextweek, you think?

Speaker 2 (02:12:56):
Next week.
I'm not going to say no becauseI have good internet.
Jeff is going to be legit,working Okay.
So, let's try.
I'll pack my microphone Allright, safely and nowhere on my
person.

Speaker 1 (02:13:15):
So, podcast audience, we did not abandon you on
purpose and we're trying ourbest to like keep this up.
I'm sure we'll get into abetter rhythm once the new year
comes, so hopefully you'll hearfrom us again.

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
Yeah, a schedule and a plan.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
But don't hate us if something falls through if Mary
Beth's internet goes out and shedoesn't want to drive 45
minutes to Starbucks to getinternet with her microphone.

Speaker 2 (02:13:39):
Well, there is a Starbucks in Wilkesboro.

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
There you go.
So, James lived in Charlottefor a while and he.
I think Charlotte might havebeen after Texas, and so
Southern James comes out everyonce in a while.

Speaker 2 (02:13:55):
He has actually spoken to me about that, because
he said for some reason, sayingMary Beth brings it out in him,
either the Texas or the NorthCarolina.
He said somehow, hey, mary Beth, and he goes.
Sometimes I just feel like I goSouthern when I talk to you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:09):
Well, his friend Sean is from West Virginia, I think,
and has a Southern draw and hehas a daughter here and James
sees him every once in a whileand anytime he spends five
minutes with Sean, southernJames comes out.

Speaker 2 (02:14:26):
I find myself doing the same thing.
Speaking of Southern, I'll haveto send you.
I got a text during my classfrom the kids in Apex yesterday,
because young Jackson, four anda half, in a fit of rage, you
know, screaming and cryingdislodged a rather large rock
from his nose that he confessedhe put there on Friday.

(02:14:49):
Yes, so I'll send you thatpicture.
The reason that reminded me ofhim is because he is growing up,
as is Kennedy, with theirlittle homegrown accent.
So if you try to do somethingfor Jackson, he'll say I got it,
pop, pop, I got it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:06):
It reminds me of a guy I used to work with.
He had four kids, I think, andone of them at a similar age,
I'm guessing put a bead from anecklace in her ear and couldn't
get it out.

Speaker 2 (02:15:20):
Yeah, I mean, they really thought Jackson said
something.
He's such a rambunctious one.
He said something about puttinga rock in his nose, but then it
was out and he and he and theylaughed until yesterday when it
shot out of his nose.
And they were like Jackson,this was in there the whole time
.
So who knows what could havehappened to the poor little
lad's brain.

Speaker 1 (02:15:42):
Alina has been cussing lately.
Awesome, he thinks it's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:15:47):
I bet she does.

Speaker 1 (02:15:48):
Sometimes gets the context correct, but one time
she was like I piss off, okay,you can't laugh at that because
you don't want to encourage itExactly.
Well, brad said.

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
Jackson has been saying penis and Brad's like I
don't call it that so I don'tknow where he got that from, but
it wasn't my fault.

Speaker 1 (02:16:11):
But I mean, then it's correct.
So I remember when my niece waslittle and you know how kids
will be like they'll do anythingto not go to sleep, but I have
a bellyache and Adelaide's thingwas always my vagina hurts.
I remember being there oncewhen my brother is like your

(02:16:32):
vagina doesn't hurt, Go to bed.
She got a note from daycareonce Adelaide's complaining that
her vagina hurts.

Speaker 2 (02:16:40):
Oh my gosh.
And seriously, and I meanlisten, that could raise alarm
bells.
Right, that's daycare.

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
Yeah, but it is freaking funny to hear Alina.
Oh it is, and she called James.
Damn grumpy one day.
And Ashley looked at me and shegoes that's your fault.

Speaker 2 (02:16:59):
Yeah, that does sound like Joyce, but also damn
grumpy, I mean totally.

Speaker 1 (02:17:05):
It seems like a short-lived phase, like I feel
like it's over.
It might have been like lastweekend or something, I'm sure
it's, you know, at school.
I would love to hear theconversations between these
children at daycare, like, oh mygosh, it has to be so adorable
but hilarious at the same time.
But all right, well, I'm goingto head out to Pinehurst All

(02:17:28):
right, you have fun shopping atPinehurst.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
Have yourself a Christmas cocktail, because
that's part of it.
Send a Christmas songs on theway, enjoy all the lights and
don't be a grinch like me.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
I can't wait till it's over either.
Mary Beth, trust me, I'mlooking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (02:17:44):
A bad banana with a greasy black peel.
That's me, and with that I'm abad banana with a greasy black
peel.

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
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