Upcoming Events & Workshops: Exploring Yin, Yoga Nidra and Inversions

Join us, Joyce and Jamie, as we shed some light on what to expect in the upcoming Yin & Yoga Nidra and Inversions & Arm Balances Workshops! We kick off with the Yin & Yoga Nidra Class; hosted by Suzi Ketterer, and discuss the difference between Yin & Yang (active & passive) poses. We'll cover the importance of including these two types of yoga for a balanced practice and Joyce shares some funny antidotes about past workshops and her role as the "toe wiggler."

We'll move on to next week's Inversion & Arm Balance Workshop, hosted by Jamie Pantea and Amanda Hatfield. We'll discuss the overall structure of the class and what to expect, but also debunk the myth that inversions are only for the experienced yogi. We'll cover different poses, the benefit of using props and how it all ties back into your everyday yoga practice. 

Learn More about Modern Yoga.
Like us on Facebook.
Follow us on Instagram
Or Twitter.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Two microphones and make a full cast, two
microphones and you make a fullcast.
Hi, this is Joyce and I'mflying somewhat solo today.

(00:32):
My co-host is not here.
I am interviewing Jamie Pantia,but really she's my guest host,
but it's just us two today.
Hello, we are here, welcome.
Welcome back to the podcast,jamie.
We're going to talk about someof the things going on in both
the Brexville and theStrongsville studio,

(00:53):
specifically the Yin and YogaNeedra workshop this Saturday
with Susie and the Inversionworkshop with Jamie and Amanda
next Saturday in Brexville.
So we'll start with the Yin andYoga Needra, which is this
Saturday, september 16th, in ourStrongsville studio from 5 to

(01:13):
6.30.
We've been getting somequestions as to what Yoga Needra
is, and Jamie and I willaddress that in a moment.
I'd like to start with Yin,because that's what this event
is going to start with.
So in most of our classes, asidefrom the Yin class itself, we

(01:33):
start with, say, it's an hourclass.
We'll start when most of theclass will be Yang poses, so
they'll be active poses.
So it'll be about 40 to 45minutes of Yang poses and then
about 15 to 20 minutes of Yinposes.
There's a significantdifference between active and

(01:55):
passive poses when the breathchanges to.
Mary Beth says this really well.
Yin poses benefit more fromtime than effort, which make
them passive, and they tend tobe very relaxing.
I would say, would you agreewith that?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
I was just going to say that'sa really good way to describe it
.
That kind of puts it into aperspective perfectly, because
once you get into those passiveor your Yin poses, you're really
just kind of relying on yourbreath and a little bit of body
weight to help you soften intothem and loosen up.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I like to think of in the Yang portion, the active
portion of class, the breath in,really the inhale, really
drives the poses.
For the most part in Yang orYin, the breath out really
drives poses.
So if you think about sittingin a deep hip opener like a half
pigeon or something or even anyhip opener, but your exhale is

(02:59):
going to tell you if you're deepenough, if you're not deep
enough, if you're too deep,think about taking a breath and
just sort of settling in Everyexhale can help you go a little
further, which it works that wayin Yang active poses as well.
It's just that you're notspending as much time.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, like you said, the focus for the active is
truly the inhales.
Our focus is mainly on that forshort, which is once you get
into the you know on the groundand into your Yin poses.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
And so in a Yin class or at least the way that it's
taught at Modern Yoga you'llstart with a little bit of
active poses so you'll warm upwith, maybe some sun salutations
, just to kind of get your bloodflowing and to get you moving.
And then so in an hour classyou might do 10 to 15 minutes of

(04:00):
active poses and then 45 to 50minutes of Yin.
And so in this 90 minuteworkshop, suzy will take you
through, you know, a little bitof Yang, just to get you
prepared to really melt downinto the Yin poses.
It's a really nice class in andof itself, but we add Yoganija.

(04:25):
We're adding Yoganija for thisspecial event, but the Yin poses
will, or the Yin class will,prepare your body to just kind
of be a little bit morecomfortable when you're laying
for 45 minutes.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, I would not If I were to walk into the studio
and somebody said we're going tolay on our mats for two hours
and not do anything else.
I would have a hard time withthat.
So I think that Yin part of itis kind of that perfect, making
it a hybrid class.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
So you couldn't just like clear your mind and relax
your body?
Just you know.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
No, I think that's honestly.
When I first started doing yogaat Modern Yoga, coming
especially coming from a bigroom practice, you know, slow
flow classes and stuff like thathad no interest to me.
And then I had taken Yin before, when I was at the Bikram
Studio, and I really did enjoyit Again, coming from something
that's so intense of a practice.

(05:17):
The thought of sitting still isintimidating, and the first
time I did it I rememberthinking to myself hey, this is
kind of painful, but it was justbecause my body was tighter
than I realized and I wasactually a little sore, like for
the next two or three days,because my body had finally had
this chance to actually relax asmuch as it needed to, and it

(05:40):
was.
I mean, it was a crazydifference and I encourage
anybody who has not tried slowflow or especially Yin classes
to check it out, Because as muchas we don't, you know, there's
the mental part of it too, and Ithink everybody needs that,
whether they like it or not.
I think we all need it morethan we'd like to admit.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh, for sure yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
But it's you know, the first time you go to a Yin
class you're going to feelamazing and you're going to go
home and you're going to sleepso well.
But while you are there youmight find your mind racing and
you might go through thethoughts of why am I doing this
to myself, or your board, orwhatever.
But I promise you, if youcontinue it, the next you know
two, three, whatever classesthat you go to it gets better,

(06:24):
it gets easier, but it also getsmore beneficial.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
And you start craving it too.
Yeah, some of those things islike I can't sit that long.
When's the next class?
Yeah, and the reason that youmight have gotten sore is that
you put stress and pressure onyour connective tissues in Yin,
and it's not that we don't dothat in a power class or a slow

(06:47):
flow class.
We're just not holding theseposes for the amount of time
that you're holding them.
In a true Yin class, poses areheld, sometimes five, seven
minutes, sometimes 10.
It just depends on the pose.
So it's really good for anylevel because there's time to
get in the pose and figure itout, there's time for the

(07:07):
teacher to make sure everybodyis in a good version of the pose
for them, and in every singlepose can be changed.
I hate the word modifiedbecause modified just kind of
suggests that you know like youcan't do it right, and that's
not it.
Sometimes a modified version ofa pose just feels better for

(07:28):
you, or I know Absolutely.
So on one side you may need amodification and it'll help you
get to the place that you'regoing.
On the other side you might not.
Sometimes modified poses arejust a lot more comfortable and
you think about it depending.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
like my favorite when it comes to modified is lizard
pose.
You know I can do a full lizardpose, but I prefer modified is.
You know, when you're holdingsomething like lizard, not only
are you yes, you're trying toopen your head, you're trying to
get the stretching part of itand that relaxation and your
muscles or whatever, but it'sstrengthening too.
You know you're supportingyourself on this back leg and
your toes and like you've got alot going on.

(08:05):
And I mean it's just the samething as using blocks and props
putting my you know back kneedown.
I'm taking weight off of thebody, I'm taking the strength
away from it so that I canactually relax because her body
is going to resist, right.
So those modifications areactually going to help you
deepen your practice and thenget to whatever level you want
to sooner.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
So that's just a big commercial for Yin in general.
The Yin is a great class.
If you haven't taken it,definitely check it out.
We have it when we have it inStrongsville, we have it on
Sunday evenings, wednesdaymornings and Thursday evenings,
and then in Brexville we have iton Wednesday evenings, and it's

(08:47):
just a really nice class.
So this particular event, though, will be about 45 minutes of
Yin, followed up by 45 minutesof Yoga Nidra, and Yoga Nidra is
a meditation practice.
It's a guided meditationpractice that's usually about 45
minutes, and it takes you intoa deeply relaxing state, and it

(09:13):
is equivalent to about threehours of sleep.
We did it in Brexville a coupleof weeks ago for the one-year
anniversary, and one of thestudents that participated said
that he lost all sense of timeOnce we were done with class.
He said you could have told methat we were there in the
meditation for five minutes, andhe's like you could have told

(09:35):
me we were there for five hours,and I would have believed you
either way.
It is a really interestingexperience.
It's fun for me, as somebodywho has facilitated Yoga Nidra,
to watch people come out of itfor the first time, because the
student was saying he was justtrying to figure out what just

(09:57):
happened.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
So confused.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
But students have given me the feedback over the
years.
We used to do this pretty.
I think we used to do it once aquarter before COVID, and we
did it on Sunday evenings Ithink it was the first Sunday of
the quarter and people wouldsay that they would sleep better

(10:24):
than they ever have.
So they wouldn't miss the YogaNidra event because they would
just go home and not pass outbut sleep well.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Right, yeah, that's well.
And that's when we werepromoting the last one for
Brexville.
That's what I kind of toldeverybody.
I said you know, don't,probably don't plan on having
any plans afterwards.
You know, right, make it a partof your Saturday evening date
night, whatever it is, you knowsomething just new to do.
But plan on going home andrelaxing, drinking water and

(10:55):
doing other self-care activities, reading, whatever it is.
But I don't recommend takingYoga Nidra and then heading off
to dinner afterwards.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Don't go clubbing after Yoga Nidra.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
He's sleeping in the corner.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I know that when we used to have it on Sunday nights
, a teacher named Molly came into do it who, unfortunately for
us, she moved to Syracuse, butshe was amazing, but I was
always there and I would do theYoga.
I would do it was the samething, you know, in Yoga Nidra.
I would do it, and then I wouldlike clean up the studio, wrap

(11:33):
up, you know, talk to her for aminute and then drive home.
So I wouldn't get home tilllike at least an hour after
class, depending on how muchchatting was going on and how
much needed to be done at thestudio.
So I felt like by that time,like something had happened,
where my body was in this deepstate of rest and now I'm wide

(11:55):
awake.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
And so it would be Totally revitalized.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
It would be like 9.30 on a Sunday night and I'm like
what do you guys want to do?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, you did say it's like the same as getting
three hours of sleep.
So you basically got like theultimate power nap, exactly, but
for people who didn't have tolike do all that.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
They could just take a, you know, five to 10-minute
drive home or 15-minute drivehome or whatever, and just chill
out.
They're like going and you know, getting in bed and you were
kind of breaking your state.
And then you know, I've taughton Monday mornings at 5.45 for
years now, so that didn't helpeither.
Oh yeah, I got to the pointwhere, well, actually something

(12:37):
sort of good for me happened.
Although this is kind of funnyand I don't, I hope this doesn't
discourage anybody from comingto Yoga Neja.
It's kind of funny, sorry, guys, but most guys.
So Yoga Neja brings you to astate where you are.
It's a state of consciousnessbetween waking and sleeping, and
it's very common.
It's part of the practice totry to not to sleep.

(12:59):
So a lot of times people willfall asleep, and most of the
time, if it's a guy, they startsnoring.
And it's part of the practice,though, not only for everybody,
to try to not fall asleep, butjust falling out of a pose or
not working on a pose, it's thesame thing.
It's not a big deal.
It's kind of almost expectedthat some people are gonna fall

(13:22):
asleep.
So part of the practice foreverybody else is to just stay
in your own practice and letthat person right next to you
snore really loud.
Yeah, so it happened a fewtimes and we were joking that
any time a guy comes in weshould just put all the guys in
the corner.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
This is the snore corner and this is the
not-so-snore corner.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
It is funny, though.
One time somebody's wife wasjust like you know, get up.
But we just decided, you know,people were just saying it was
interfering with theirrelaxation.
So Molly and I talked about itand we decided that if somebody,

(14:04):
we were gonna announce it, andshe did.
You know, if you snore, we'regonna wiggle your toe.
So that was my job.
You were the toe wiggler.
Yeah, I never had to do it, andthis is very common too.
Like where somebody will youknow?
You'll sort of notice that theyare sleeping, because their
breath will just get you know,and then the snoring will start,

(14:28):
because it's so quiet in theroom, you know, and you'll hear
a little bit of snoring, andthen you just kind of wait and
usually within the first like Idon't know 30 seconds, they're
like oh, what just happened here, you know?
So I don't think maybe once Ihad to wiggle somebody's toe,
but that's real weird too.
Not because it's weird towiggle somebody's toe, but like
if you're sleeping.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I mean, it's a little strange to wiggle somebody's
toe, I guess, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I mean considering all of it.
But if you're sleeping in thissituation and then, like all of
a sudden, somebody's, nobodywakes you up by wiggling your
toe, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I would almost be afraid to.
I mean, have you?
I mean, have you ever wokensomebody up?
And it's just absolutely scaredthe crap out of them.
Yeah, and they just jump up andthat would be.
My fear is that my one littletoe wiggle would end up with a
foot in my face.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
But that, per you know, that's usually when
they're in a deep sleep, wherethey've been asleep for a while,
and that not just yeah.
So so yeah, there might be alittle snoring involved in yoga.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
That's okay, it'll only be brief.
Yeah, it'll be brief, there'llbe some toe wiggling, but it is
whole point, though, is thathopefully you are in your own
state of relaxation, that thesnoring doesn't really bother,
you know right, yeah, but you'regonna use your has a ton of
really great benefits.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
It helps in relieving muscle tension and in we're you
know, your muscles, youremotion, your body, your
emotions, your, your, whatever'sgoing on in your head they're
all connected.
So you know, you can say yes,it relieves muscular tension,
emotional tension, mentaltension.

(16:07):
But I just feel like that's onething.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
But it helps.
I mean it helps with everything.
And if I I mean it's not aregular class for us, obviously
this is a special event, but ifit's something that you involve
in your practice, you know alittle bit more overall it's
good for you.
Know, like fatigue, just evendaily fatigue, you feel more
energized because you're gettingmore rest.
You know, and especially,especially if you're a person

(16:32):
that can't get that eight hours,seven hours of sleep every
night, putting some yoga kneeduring your life would be super
beneficial because you'recatching up on the rest, you're
rejuvenating the body, but thenoverall it's anxiety like
cortisol levels, stress, all ofthat, it, it all improves.
Yes there's even been studiesthat say it helps with your
memory too.
You know just cognitivefunction as a whole, so, but I

(16:55):
think it all, it all connects tous.
You know being able to findthat, those deepest states of
relaxation Because I think a lotof us, you know.
You think you come home and yousit on the couch and turn on
the TV or something and you'relike, oh, this is relaxing, but
how many times do you have tostand up and do something, or
the dog needs out, or the phonerings?

(17:15):
You know it's just, it's notreally truly relaxation, because
you're still, you're stilldoing stuff, You've got a TV
going.
This is true, true deeprelaxation.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Side note our TV in the living room broke yesterday.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I want to break all the TVs in our house.
I don't want TV anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I was going to follow that up with an.
I wasn't upset.
Yeah, right, there you go.
Quite honestly, it's not onthat much either.
Yeah, because everybody in thehouse, including Alina, has
their own device.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah.
So everybody's watching videosand doing stuff on their phones
or iPads and yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
So it's not the end of the world.
I, james, was a little bitupset.
He was trying to like reset theTVs.
I think the TV is broke and hejust likes to have it on as like
background noise, which, like,definitely not my thing, but you
know whatever I get, thatthat's that's me for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I can't work in complete silence.
I have to have either lightmusic or I'll do.
Friends is on repeat in ourhouse all the time.
I think that in the time thatBradley and I have been together
, he's probably heard or watchedit like the whole series at
least like eight times.
Oh, I'm not kidding, but thething is because we've seen it.

(18:28):
I've seen it so many times he'sseen it that it's not something
I will ever need to payattention to you know I can't
have a TV show on that I'venever seen.
I can't have documentariesplaying, because then that's
where I'm going.
But, there is something aboutthat little background buzz that
helps me just stay focused onwhat's right in front of me.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I get it.
I'm the opposite.
I really like it quiet.
When, when I was single for along time, like I don't, I
didn't, um, I didn't turn the TVon much at all and I think I
had.
I had two or three TVs in thehouse and I had, but I did have
Brown's parties and, um, I wantto say this was back in 2005-ish

(19:14):
or maybe it's 2006, but I I wasone of the only people
apparently on the planet who didnot have a flat screen TV and I
I honestly like probably didn'tturn the TV on much more than
for the Brown's game, so Iwasn't too stressed about having

(19:34):
a flat screen TV and I said tolike the regulars that there
were like four of us that werealways here I said, if the
Browns win five games in a row,I'll buy a flat screen TV.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
That's a good bet.
It's a safe bet.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Had I not met James in 2000, we met in 2011, I
probably would still not have aflat screen TV.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Like I'd still have that same TV today.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
And he, when I met him, he was like, why do you
have these big tube TVs?
And I was like, because I don'tever turn them on and they work
.
Like what's the big deal?
He's like do you know how muchspace this takes up?
So one day he lived in a, helived in Stowe and he was
leasing this really, actuallythis really awesome space.
But he was like do you mind if?

(20:24):
He was like spending all thistime here?
And he's like do you mind if Ibring my TV over?
And I was like, no, but you'regoing to drive all the way to
Stowe.
Like, why don't you just bringit the next time you come over?
And he's like, no, I'll go getit.
I fell asleep on the couch and Iwoke up and there was this like
I felt like there was thismassive movie screen in front of
my face, like it was huge.

(20:45):
It was huge, yeah, and I waslike what is going on?
And so then that began the flatscreen TV series, the chapter
of my life, I guess.
And so, yeah, so now this thisone, I guess, is is it just
doesn't work.
It, the sound works.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Listen, listen to TV.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
So, yeah, we I don't know how we got to that, but
yeah, you're talking aboutrelaxing, watching, watching TV.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
This is.
This podcast is the series ofdigression digressions.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yes, so back to yoga.
Need you?
It is definitely worth yourtime.
If you're curious about it,check it out.
It's really good, Really reallygood.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
And if you're unable to make this one, I think this
is something that we're going to.
You know we will.
We will hold these in thefuture, for sure, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh yeah, definitely.
We're yoga majors on thecomeback.
That's another chapter of of mylife in the studio.
Is life right now, you know?
Another digression, justbecause I think it's hard to
make it to let everybody knowthat I have thrown away all of
my brown stuff, so I don'treally even care.
Brown's no longer supportingthat supporting since last year

(22:02):
Yep and I am much more sober andless angry on Sundays.
Last year was fantastic.
I got stuff done.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I know I feel like being a Browns fan.
There's, there's, there's.
There's a practice that comeswith that too.
My dad was a huge Browns fanand I used to watch with him all
the time and I'd get, you know,upset when they would lose,
which was always and and hewould never like have any
emotion around it.
And I remember having theconversation with him of, like,
you never get mad when they makebad plays or you know whatever.

(22:34):
And he was like look, I havelived with the Browns my entire
life.
I am used to upset and defeat.
He's like I don't care whathappens.
He was like, but he doesn't getupset.
He would not get upset if theylost, but he'd celebrate when
they would win.
And I felt like there was, therewas, like there was a little
bit of a lesson in there, youknow.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, it wasn't just that because I did enjoy like
Browns parties Not that we did awhole lot of them recently
because in the last seven yearswe used to go tailgating a lot.
We used to go downtown even ifwe weren't going to the game.
But I just can't support thewhole thing with Dishon Watson.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I understand that completely.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, it's, it's like .

Speaker 1 (23:14):
All right done.
Yeah, yeah, I I feel that thereare no excuses for their
decisions that they're makingthere, but right, and it's not
like this is on the heels of abunch of good decisions, right,
right.
It's just go, browns.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, yeah, let's move on.
So next Saturday, which isSeptember 23rd, in the Brexville
Studio and I want to make sureI get the time right it's one to
three, right, correct?
Yeah, one to three pm you andAmanda Hatfield.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yep, we are going to be holding an inversion workshop
, so it is.
We did this back and well, Idid one back in Strongsville a
couple months ago and Amandaactually I think she had just
gotten done with her teachingtraining or recently, and she
came to it as maybe it was partof her credits or whatever, but
she put her mat right next tomine at the front and I saw

(24:10):
opportunity there immediately.
If any of you have not metAmanda or you don't know, she's
physically fit, she's a trainer,she owns gyms and that girl can
hold a handstand longer than Iwill ever be able to.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
She was a gymnast, oh , that's right, okay, so there
you go I didn't realize that.
You know it's funny Amanda is agreat teacher but people will
commonly tell me like herclasses are hard and I'm like no
, her power classes are hard orlike physically challenging.
But I just feel like peoplelook at Amanda and immediately

(24:45):
think they're in for it.
It's like all of four foot One,I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Just tiny little ball muscle, sweetest thing in the
world.
But you know if I could see it,if you see her, if you walked
into a studio for the first timefor a power class and saw
Amanda, you'd be like, oh no,I'm not ready for this.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
But she teaches slow flow as well, and she's an
excellent slow flow teacher.
She's just.
She's a good teacher.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
She's been in the fitness industry for a long time
and she just knows howeverything works together as far
as the body Really.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Well, yeah, she's great.
And your.
Your inversion workshop acouple of months ago was was
awesome.
Everybody who took it loved itand asked when we're going to do
it again.
And it's.
It is really fun to work on ourimbalances and inversions and
you.
You don't have to know how todo them or even like be halfway

(25:41):
there to get started.
You don't even really have tohave a goal of like nailing a
handstand.
It's just more tools to buildawareness in your body and to
and just to kind of have fun.
We yes, they can beintimidating, for sure, but your

(26:06):
body naturally, like if youstart to fall out of something,
your body will compensate.
I mean, how many people haveyou seen go up into like try to
go up into a handstand and kindof cartwheel out?
You know?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, yeah, you naturally kind of know how to
handle the situation there, butwe also teach you too yeah, we
do go through that once we getinto handstands of safe ways to
get out of it, and you canpractice that with a wall.
I think what was really coolabout this inversion workshop
that we did before was, you know, I kind of I went into it

(26:39):
obviously with the plan of whatwe were going to talk about, but
I hated, like the group that wehad, where they were so amazing
.
Everybody was.
Everybody participated with it.
So like what we do is we'llkind of, as we progress through
it, we'll show you how to do apose and we go through how to
use blocks and things to helpyou build into it or whatever,
and then we give you a littletime to mess around with it and

(26:59):
we'll walk around and help youor whatever.
But what I found was peoplewere kind of hitting these aha
moments with their poses andlike kind of figuring it out.
Because at the end of the day,when it comes to inversions and
balancing, it's all aboutdistribution of your weight and
figuring out like the sweet spot.
You know we're going to set youup the basics, but everybody's
anatomy is different so you haveto figure it out for yourself a

(27:20):
little bit.
And it was just really cool tosee people hit, you know, like I
had somebody after the workshopand a couple of weeks later she
told me she's like I've neverbeen able to do a headstand.
And after doing the workshop,it was the first time I got it.
I got it there, I can do it athome, you know, and people were
kind of like sharing their ahamoments with the entire class,

(27:40):
so then they were giving kind ofsome insight and tools to help
other people hit those ahamoments too.
You know Like it was like thiscommunity effort and it was
really cool.
It was very inspiring to see.
I was like on cloud nine when Ileft that day.
I was just beyond impressed byeverybody that showed up, shown
up.
But yeah, it's it's, it's a lotof fun.

(28:01):
And, like I said, the big thingthat I think intimidates people
with inversions, like you'resaying, handstands and stuff, is
like oh, I'm not strong enough,I'm not flexible enough, my
body doesn't seem like it'scapable of this.
And you know we explain rightoff the rip how you know, with
anatomy, there are going to beposes that your body will never
be able to do.
There are poses that my bodywill never be able to do, and
I've been practicing yoga for areally long time.

(28:23):
I think that's kind of likepart of the beautiful.
Part of it, too, is just, youknow, kind of finding some
acceptance around it, but thencelebrating some of the cool
things that you didn't realizeor didn't think you could do,
and you can, but, honestly, someof the poses that most people
aren't going to be able to dodon't include inversions, like

(28:45):
there are some binds that I'llnever be.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Have you ever seen a crescent prayer twist bind where
I'll send you a photo?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Anyhow, it's just never going to work.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, it's not going to work.
My arms aren't long, likeliterally, my anatomy isn't
going to do it.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
That is the step to getting you into a bound half
moon pose, which I will do morethan anything in my life, and
it's never going to happen.
My shoulders are so tight and,yeah, it'll never happen.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
But you can do a handstand, yeah.
So, and part of the one of thebiggest hurdles is like getting
over that in your head, like Ican do this, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, and that's I think.
I think when I started theworkshop I said that too.
Like let's just go ahead andall admit right now, none of us
are going to look perfect today.
Everybody's going to fall alittle bit and we're all going
to feel and look a little silly.
But just know that literallyevery single person in this room
is going to have that.
But you know, every timesomebody falls in a yoga class,
I always kind of commend themfor it.

(29:54):
I'm like look, if you're notfalling, it means you're not
trying something.
You know you're pushingyourself a little bit further
and it didn't work out that time, but that's fine, just do it
again, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I can't wait for the day when everybody in class is
doing thread the needle with oneleg up and somebody rolls and
knocks the next person down andit just keeps going.
I've fallen out at many times.
It's your, I mean there's.
It doesn't hurt, you're rightthere anyhow.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
But I see students like get real stiff, like they
don't want to fall.
You know, I'm like well, it'skind of fun to fall.
Roll through your shoulder, itmight feel good.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
That's, I think I don't.
This may have been evenactually before I was teaching,
I'm not sure, but I was takingone of your classes.
I don't know if you remember,but we were in Down Dog.
We did a Ben Twist Open and Iwent for a funky dolphin.
I got my forearm down and Istarted doing some hops to see
if I could balance it and I gotup there and I floated for like
0.2 seconds and then tumbledforwards and almost hit the wall

(30:52):
and you came over and youdidn't ask if I was okay,
because I'm sure you could tellI was, but all you did, you said
that was awesome.
And you come on and I was like,yeah, it was.
I mean, I actually kind of tookthat because I kind of say the
same thing.
It's like if somebody falls, I,you know, I tell them, I'll say
it out loud Be like, hey,that's awesome, because falling

(31:14):
means you're trying something.
You know.
Commend yourself for the tryingpart, get over the fall.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
And that's really important.
What you just said like commendyourself for the trying, and we
don't.
As adults, we don't try thingsvery often.
We're not new at things.
Very often We've alreadydecided what we can and can't do
.
Granted, it's our lifeexperience that's telling us, or
maybe it's our emotions, youknow like, but it's so

(31:40):
refreshing to be in thebeginner's mind, like.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Josh.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Stacker, who we had on the podcast a few weeks ago,
and he's our most recent teachertraining graduate.
He is a professor at Kent andso he's in front of students
speaking all the time and he hasgo listen to his podcast if you
haven't.
But he has like a really,really interesting life
experience, just like everybodyelse does.

(32:04):
But I think I think Josh isdefinitely in his 40s.
I think his birthday is comingup, I don't.
I don't know how old he is, butbut he said so.
He's been teaching power basicsin Brexville for a couple of
weeks now, so this this week maybe his third class.
And he said last week, so thatwas his second class.

(32:26):
He had everybody checked in orwhatever, and he was going into
the studio to actually teach theclass, close the door and he
got nervous and he had thismoment of wow I haven't felt
this in so long, like and he wasjust sort of savoring like the
butterflies.
Yeah, I can completelyappreciate that, because we

(32:48):
don't get that too often, themore that we experience in life.
And so you know you, if you getthat and you're trying some of
the inversions, that's, that'spretty, pretty awesome.
So what is what are, what kindof, or what poses are you guys
going to cover?
I would assume headstand,handstand, forearm balance, yeah

(33:10):
.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
So we kind of like we start from the ground up a
little bit.
So we'll talk about alignmentstuff and kind of like.
We'll start with like a teenyflow to get you warmed up and we
do some stretches for the bigthings when it comes to
inversion.
So your wrists, your hips, yourhamstrings, you know, get
everything good for that.
And I do like to talk aboutChaturanga and this actually

(33:33):
happened accidentally in thelast one, because there are some
arm balances, like a runningman and stuff that require your
arms to be in that Chaturanga.
You know form, and not havinggood Chaturanga arms is already
something that you know.
We like to make sure that's.
That's a big.
That's a big thing.
When it comes down to yoga,yeah, it's.
It took me actually a while torealize that I wasn't doing

(33:55):
Chaturanga's correctly, butanyway.
So we talk about structure andstuff.
We'll do that.
And then, yeah, we kind ofstart from the ground up.
We'll do crow pose, we'll talkabout side crows, and then we'll
move into the forearm stuffheadstand, handstands towards
the end of, like I said, we'llteach some of them, demonstrate

(34:16):
and teach, and then we'll leteverybody kind of practice them
on their own, because we do, weuse blocks, we use the walls, we
kind of show you the baby stepson how to do it.
You've never done crow posebefore, if you've never even
tried it, we'll show you how touse a block or a couple blocks,
so that you can feel you knowwhatever, get used to it before
you start to throw yourself intoit and then so anyway, but

(34:38):
towards the end of the class wekind of we, I like I leave it
open because I'm sure there arespecific poses that people are
thinking about and wondering.
And so I think last time, maybethe last 15, 20 minutes, we
played with like peacock poseand firefly, and what's the one
where you you're on your forearmor you're on your palms, your

(35:01):
fingertips are facing behind youand then you bounce on the
chutter.
You know what I'm talking aboutit?
Joe, joe, kelly Kovoh.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
He of course he.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Amanda was trying to do it and she she got it for a
second.
It's very difficult.
But Joe Kelly Kovoh, but justboom out of nowhere.
We look over and he's holdingthis pose like it was nothing.
But there are some like one offposes that you won't hear about
.
See a lot about practices andstuff, but other people know

(35:32):
about and like, oh, likegrasshopper pose and baby
grasshopper.
Like baby grasshopper issomething that's accessible as
far as an arm balance goes.
It's a modified version, butit's.
It's really cool, it's a lot offun.
And like eight angle pose,those types of things too.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
So peacock is the pose that you're talking about,
with your wrists facing Peacock.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I thinkchin stand was what you were
referring to before.
I don't, because what's it?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
No, Peacock was the one that I was talking about
with the PMS down facingbackwards.
But yeah, ginstand, I actuallydidn't.
I know it's the photo that weused for the inversion and it
was funny because when I startedbuilding into GinStand and
learning I took a couple monthsand really focused on it and
after I got it and I moved on alittle bit and this was my fault

(36:24):
.
But naturally it's not one thatI put into the workshop,
because it's very challengingand if you don't know what
you're doing, it can be veryunsafe because you're putting
all your weight on your chin andyour neck and it's just very
vulnerable there.
So, but right at the end it wasactually Josh Stack or I just
kind of said last minuteanything else and he was like

(36:45):
what was that pose you did inmarketing?
And I was just like no, and sothere's a video out there of me
attempting it.
I mean I held it for fiveseconds, but we can definitely
go over it if somebody wants to.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
So you were saying before that bodies are all built
differently.
In my experience teaching, Ifound that there are two poses
in particular and that's one ofthem GinStand, and the other one
is Firefly.
I don't call a Firefly athrowout as an option, like when
we hang in rag dolls or do gota squat, so we give the students

(37:19):
a little bit of time to play.
But GinStand isn't somethingthat I call very often, but I
happen to call it in this oneparticular day and people are
kind of looking at me and I waslike I'll show you how to set it
up, but I can't do it.
Maybe you can, and so Idemonstrated.
And then there was a student whotried it and her legs went way

(37:43):
up over her head and youcouldn't totally see her face,
but you could see her face, justthe shock of what she did.
And so that became her thing.
She did it every time.
We did back bends andinversions.
And then Cassie Novak, who isnow in college, and she comes in

(38:04):
.
She just left again.
But the same thing happened onenight when I demonstrated
Firefly, and that's another onewhere I can kind of get to it
and I can hold it for a t minustwo seconds.
And then I fall.
And then another one that youdon't have to fall far.
And Cassie tried it and justlike her legs floated it was

(38:26):
amazing Nailed it.
Her face was just like I'mgetting chills thinking about it
.
And that became her go-to.
It was like anytime there wastime to play Cassie's in Firefly
.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Firefly is one.
It's that.
I mean.
That is a tough one.
That is one that becomes easierif you use blocks.
A lot of arm balances are likethat.
That's actually how I ended upbuilding into the chin stand was
using blocks, elevating yourhands oh, like a flying pigeon.
That's one too that I actuallya lot of people in the class got

(38:58):
that flying pigeon reallyeasily because they used blocks.
That's such a deep hip stretchto have to get your hands down
while you're in gentlemen'schair.
So if you put the blocks up,you don't have to stretch as far
, but you can still get yourknee up onto your elbow, your
forearm, and it actually makesit a lot easier.
So, Firefly some of it.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's just taking yourself off the ground, so you
don't have to find as much bendmy half pigeon was a pose that I
got when I realized how muchpain you're in when you do it
and it's not.
That's the bruise that comeswith it.
And it's not so much in yourhips, although, because I feel
like sometimes like so side crowright, it always comes from

(39:43):
chair twists.
But it's very different thanchair twists and I sort of feel
like that about flying pigeon 2,where you have to go through
the deep hip stretch but onceyou start balancing the focus
becomes more on the balancingand when you hook your foot
around the spot on your armright over your elbow, like in
class, sometimes I'll joke andsay, hook it.

(40:04):
That's the whole key to thewhole pose.
You have to hook it so hardthat you feel like you're
leaving yourself a bruise andyou might have a bruise.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
And you might.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Same thing You're going to.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, same thing with crow, like you can put your
knees kind of straightforward upinto your armpits and that
hurts the back of your arms somuch.
Or you can kind of take themout wider like whatever.
Whatever I mean I know there'sa textbook way and whatever, but
yeah, it hurts yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Sometimes it does, but that's I mean.
Yeah, no, it's just part of it.
Nothing you can't handle.
Yeah Right, exactly, it's notpain that you can't handle,
exactly, it's a little teeny bitof pinching in this, but the
rewards are worth it.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
So when we're teaching regular classes,
sometimes we take a moment tokind of workshop or demonstrate
something, but we don't havetime as we flow through a class
to teach crow and teachhandstand and teach headstand,
and so this kind of workshopwill give students things that

(41:12):
teach them how to work on itwhen they have time to work on
inversions.
Absolutely yeah, you candefinitely work the things that
you're going to learn in the armbalance and inversion workshop
into your regular practice forsure.
What are some of your?
What's your favorite inversion?

Speaker 1 (41:29):
You know it changes as inversion practice.
I just feel like it does.
The chin stand was a big onefor me.
I really liked that Handstandis one of my.
I was a gymnast too when I wasyounger and so handstand, it
took me a minute to get backinto it, and not every day is
perfect.
Still, you know there are days Ican land it and days that it's

(41:49):
just my body's not doing it.
But I do kind of use that as agauge as to where I am in my
focus, like if I can kick upinto a handstand and just hold
it and we're good.
I'm like all right, you gave meyour heads clear, you're
feeling good.
Things are.
You know, I that's so tough.
I really.
I really enjoy running, man.

(42:09):
I think it's one of those thatyou can put into your practice
and like into a power class andyour flow and it's just a fun
little addition into it.
I mean it's.
It takes strength and you knowthe right positioning for it.
But when you hit it and justyou know your back leg goes up,
just for that second or two thatyou do it that I don't know

(42:31):
it's.
There's a cool feeling with it.
But my big one that I want toget better at is my forearm
balance.
I have, like I said, I havevery tight shoulders and so
that's one that you have to have.
You have to be open in yourshoulders and you know your
biceps, triceps everything hasto be pretty loose for that, and
that's something I strugglewith.
So that's that's kind of likewhere my focus is right now.

(42:56):
I guess I would say that'ssomething that I'd like to see
myself improve.
I can kick up into it and holdfor you know, a brief second,
but it hurts, and I'd like tolike to see myself be able to
push into that a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Which?
Which ones are you not a fan of?
Like what are your?
What are the ones that youchoose, more more often than not
, not to even bother with?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
So I like, I like headstands.
I I like to teach headstandstoo, because you have your arms
for support.
I will say one that I don't domyself and I don't try to teach
is tripod, and I think that it'sbecause it is difficult for
people to grasp the like, tounderstand how important it is

(43:41):
to be pushing more into yourhands and stuff Like cause
you've got a lot of there's alot of weight on your head and
or on your neck, there's a lotof pressure there, and that's
that's one of those poses that Ifeel like, even with an
experienced Yogi on an off day,you really could injure yourself
.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
That's.
That's one of the ones that Ijust I just stay away from.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah, james and I are the same way.
We don't teach a lot of tripodsbecause the same thing like
there's just not a lot ofsupport for your neck If your
head isn't, if the crown of yourhead isn't flat on the ground
not that your head is flat likeyour neck, if your neck is bent
at all and then you take what90% of your body weight and dump

(44:23):
it into a crooked neck likethat's just it's.
It has nothing to do with likethe actual inversion, it's just
more of neck safety.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Well, and the big like the big key with that too.
I mean, like I said, you haveto make sure that you're putting
some weight into your hands,but you can't do it Like.
Your body has to be perfectlyaligned.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Like your neck is stacked.
You have to be perfect from thetop of your head to the tip of
your toes, and the slightest bitof swaying changes the pressure
on your neck and all that.
And I actually I have a videosomewhere.
I was messing around the studioone day and I went.
I went from a crow pose and Iwent down into a tripod stand.
I probably fell into it byeither way.
I like made it work and I youknow, my legs went up and I was

(45:04):
really stable and it was atripod that like one of my best
and I went ahead and started towalk my fingers out and I was
able to do tripod with your hand.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Like your arms fully extended and it was.
It was really cool.
But then I felt like this senseof panic because I didn't know
how to get out, you know like Inever thought about it.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
I've never tried that , but I never thought about it.
I had.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
So much pressure on my fingertips, holding myself
that I was like if I move one ofmy hands, that's going to get
like I'm going to either fall orwhatever.
And I just I did.
I had this moment of like Idon't know how to do that, like
I don't know how to get out ofthis right now.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
And if I, if I fell and I couldn't move, can I reach
my phone?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Right, exactly, and so I I would have to look at the
video because I think Iultimately it was a weird
scramble of bending the kneesand just bringing them down real
quick, and which was a littlebit of a sway either, but it was
just what I did in the moment,you know, and figured it out.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
We also don't teach a lot of shoulder.
Uh, shoulder stand, Is that?
Am I saying it right?
Yeah, Shoulder stand, You're onyour.
It's like from waterfall whereyou lift your hips.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Um, that's an awesome pose, but again, there's so
much pressure on your neck andit's hard to see as a teacher if
people are, if the pressure'son their neck or in their elbows
or up in their shoulders, youknow, like there's there's we
can see Um, a lot of weightdistribution.
It's just that there's somethings where we can't see what
we need to see and it's justthere's too much risk.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, I it's.
I've taught shoulder stand acouple of times and the only way
like when I do it's somethingthat I know I'm going to do,
it's not an impulse thing, to do, but what I'll do is make sure
bridges are in the practice, andby the third bridge, um, I have
you up on your toes to thepoint that you can get your
shoulders underneath so that youyou get that, um, you know

(46:56):
you're using your arm for yourstand, your hands at your low
back, and then finding a liftwith your left leg, right leg,
kind of going back and forth,and it's like, if you feel good
with this, you might be able totake it to the next step.
And I think that's the biggestthing too, and and it's a good
thing to remember for anybodywho is working on inversions or
coming to the class or whateverthat just I mean, just like yoga

(47:17):
, there's steps to it, and Ithink so with inversions even
more so, you know you, insteadof just coming into a studio and
throwing yourself into, youknow, a shoulder stand or a form
stand or whatever, there arethings that you could be doing
to build into this, to help withthe strength, the balance,
getting used to the feeling ofbeing upside down, and I just

(47:38):
think it's so important to takethat prep work before you just
toss yourself into it.
Um, you'll thank yourself inthe end and we go through that
in the in the inversion workshoptoo.
I kind of I more or less giveyou homework.
You know things that you cantake home, that you can practice
little activities um differentstretches and also the poses
that we do every single day andour practices, how much they can

(48:01):
benefit these poses.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, chaturanga's are like at the, at the heart of
everything.
And also, if you're not used tobeing upside down and you're
maybe a little hesitant, butalso very curious about this
workshop, um, a really good wayto start going upside down are
our inversion chairs, and wehave one in each studio.
Um, mary Beth calls them theinversion toilet.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Um, and now we know why people don't use them.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Because you basically place your hands on the legs of
the chair and slide your headto the back of the chair.
Your, your, um, the seat sortof the middle of the seat comes
out and your head and neck andshoulders are completely
supported by the padded seat.
But your neck doesn't or yourhead doesn't touch the floor, so
there's no pressure on yourneck and even if you just take

(48:52):
one leg up, you're I mean justin the prep, you're inverted.
Anytime your heart is over yourhead it's considered an
inversion.
But you can take one leg up.
The wall is behind the chair soyou can like roll up so your
butt's against the wall.
A teacher can help you.
But there I've had plenty ofstudents like that you could
tell were sort of curious aboutdoing it, but didn't want to

(49:13):
take that first step and then,once you know, with a little
help, once they got up therethey were like oh, and so that
intimidation just just kind ofdiminished.
You know it was gone and that'salways a really that's just
like it's got to be a greatfeeling.
It's a great feeling as ateacher to like see that that
big, a hot moment of like oh anda fear being conquered.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Right, I, um, I had a , my uh 615 in Brexville on
Thursdays.
Um, one of my regulars, she'sthe sweetest girl.
She came in, she was on thephone with work and I could tell
her conversation based on whatshe's saying was frustrating.
Um, and I can't remember she,she, she basically came to this

(49:55):
resolution while she was on thephone and it was like she had
conquered something and all of asudden, everything changed.
She was super happy and she gotoff the phone, hung it up and
she looked at me and she waslike I'm hitting that inversion
chair today.
That was like that's awesomeand she did and it was, but it
was so cool because it was justlike she had conquered one thing
and she's like I'm taking thaton today.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Let's just handle everything else while I'm here.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah, and so I was like all right, well, we're
definitely going to break forinversions today, because I'm
not taking that away from her.
And she walked right up to it,put her head in it, boom, feet
up, and it was.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
It was awesome it was very rewarding to see.
So I will also say that myjourney to um eight limb sage
was was an interesting one.
I I think I was there was ateacher that just was brought it
into her class.
Probably, I don't know, maybeit was like something she
planned for that month orsomething.

(50:48):
So we worked on it for a littlebit.
Um, every time I was in herclass and I just think I got to
the point where I was like thisprobably just isn't working for
my body, like I, you know, it'sjust I, I'm listening.
I wasn't frustrated, I was morelike dude, this, this looks
really hard and I just don'tthink.
I think I'm doing everythingright, it's just not working.

(51:10):
And then one day it justhappened.
It was like all the cues cametogether at once and it just
happened.
It was probably six, eightmonths into me trying it for the
first time and I was like, well, that was easy.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Like why did it take me so long?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Well, it was, it was that and like it was literally,
like you said before, it's justfinding your balance.
And it was that, that balanceof head and butt, really, that I
sort of like the scales tippedto the right spot and I was like
, oh, here we are, and it was solike it was so clear that I

(51:52):
knew that I just had it.
It wasn't like like handstand.
I'm the same way.
Some days I go to my mat and Ican nail it If I'm demonstrating
, I can nail it every time.
I can do so many things thatI'm demonstrating and I can have
a full conversation with you,not so much when I'm in my own
practice, but but like there aredays where I have to work at it

(52:13):
.
There are days where you know,and it's, it's, I'm more, I'm
not disappointed when I justdon't nail it.
I'm more interested in like,what does it have for me today?
You know, like I know that it'sthere, and if it's not there
today, I know that it's not likegone.
But with the eight limb sage,when I did it, I was like, oh, I

(52:34):
have it now.
And then I was a littledisappointed, like the journey's
over, like it came to ascreeching halt.
Yeah, and it's really.
It taught me that lesson ofthat.
It's all about the journey, youknow, and I was craving the
journey and so maybe that's why,with handstand, I'm not part of
the reason why I'm not likebummed out if it's it's not

(52:54):
there.
Honestly, one of my, one of mychallenges has been for a long
time when I'm in a busy classlike that's, when handstands get
really hard Because even thoughI know that my body isn't going
to go left or right or or rollover to the person doing child's
pose in front of me, like thatis that is my, my challenge, to
like find my balance in thatsituation and and it's just,

(53:15):
it's interesting, you know.
And yeah, some days I getfrustrated where I'm like what
the heck?
I just did it last class in themiddle of the room when no one
was, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Well, I think that's kind of like.
So I think it might be part ofthe reason that I love
inversions so much and teachingthem like one of my favorite
yamas and yamas to teach isnon-attachment, like I just I
feel like it applies to so muchin our lives and and so I do,
especially just if you've takenone of my classes, you know I
like to make you uncomfortable,but in the best way possible and

(53:45):
and that's that's kind of thepoint of it is that you know,
whatever happens with yourinversions, whether it's in a
workshop or your practice orwhatever the concept of
non-attachment is, you know it's.
It's kind of necessary becauseyou know you, if you hate your
handstand, awesome, celebrate it, you know, honor it,
acknowledge it and then let itgo.

(54:07):
Because if you're in your headof like, oh my God, I got
handstands, I'm going to dohandstands forever, you're going
to come to practice the nextday and you're not going to be
able to hit that handstand,you're going to really
disappoint yourself.
You know you're it's differentevery time you do it.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
And I think that's, I think that's part of what I
love about it.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, they definitely give you a new perspective.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
But that's why we're here, right.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
That's why we're here .
That's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
That's why we're here doing the yoga thing, getting
new perspectives Maybe we shouldchange our, our roles to
perspective providers.
There you go.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Instead of teachers.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I actually don't hate that.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I'm going to write that down.
We are.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
My name is Gamy.
I am your perspective providerfor today.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Welcome to basic perspective providing.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I don't know if that's going to mark it very
well.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I love it.
Modern yoga for a newperspective.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
There you go.
Come for the yoga, come for theworkout.
Get a new perspective.
There you go, I love it, youheard it.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
You heard it here on the Modern Yoga podcast New
slogan.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I don't know if this, this might not be James
approved, but oh, he's not goingto get this far.
That's fair.
So it's, I'm excited.
I'm excited to do it withAmanda.
Like I said last time, she wasinvoluntarily brought into it
and so when we said we needed todo another one, I was like, yep
, she, she's the, she's the girlto be a part of this.

(55:44):
So I'm excited to have heralongside and her to be teaching
it as well.
You know, she's not just goingto be the demonstrator, she's
going to be a part of it andteaching and stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
But that is part of it.
Like you were saying, and Idon't think this is a big secret
, when you're teaching andyou're talking through
demonstrating and like that's,that's just, it's hard, it's
exhausting, and then you can'tsee and yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
When it was one of the things, I didn't even think
about going into the workshop ofthe talking while doing poses,
which you know is not easy inany situation.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
So you know.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
I think it was the chat around, as specifically we
were talking about I was showinghow to do it with blocks so we
could get the good form, and allthat, and I was just showing
that once you put the blocksunder your shoulder is I was
like I could hold this all daylong because it's taking, you
know, pressure away or whatever.
And then I continued talkingand all of a sudden I'm like
dripping sweat.
I dropped my knees and I waslike, well, I take that back,

(56:41):
can't do this all day long.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
And then you couldn't do 10 handstands after that.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
No, well, and it's yeah, because you know, just
like it's so important duringyoga practice to keep breathing,
you have to do that duringinversions too.
You can't hold your breathwhile you're upside down,
because your weight will shift,it'll redistribute and you'll
fall, and so, yeah, you know,trying to talk about handstands
while you're in a handstand it'snot gonna work, so it's good to

(57:09):
have somebody to help aid you.
So we'll be splitting that up.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
So the Yen and Yoga Need.
Your Workshop this weekend is$25 if you prepay, $35 day of,
and then the beginners notbeginners the inversion workshop
which let me switch to myBrexville store is the Arm

(57:35):
Balance and Inversion Workshopis $30 and then $35 day of.
So be sure to register and comeand check it out.
We will be doing more of these,so if you happen to miss one,
don't worry, it won't be foreverbefore we have another one.
We're definitely back on apretty regular workshop schedule
and that's definitely a goal ofours to maintain and continue

(57:58):
to offer really fun workshops.
And if you guys have any ideas,if you wanna see anything in
particular, just talk to one ofus or email or message or
whatever cause we'd love to hearyou know what's going on in
your practice?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
And thank you, Jamie, for being on the podcast.
I feel like you're a regularthese days.
We might have to make it.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I'm the new Coco host .

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yes, I like it.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Just gonna pop in every once in a while.
I like it.
It goes with my persona ofbeing all over the place and
Carrie Hoffman today told me shesent me a text.
She goes.
You're hard to track down.
I was like.
You are not the first person totell me that.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
So you, mary Beth and I at some point will have to
take some lovely photos togetherand then we'll have to, like
James will at some pointrandomly grab some really bad
photos of the three of us andthen he'll just use the ones
that we don't like and we'llhave this, like you know, group
of lovely photos that we'll bewondering why he doesn't use
them, but he'll just you know.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
I'm just saying, Unfortunately he doesn't have
that anymore.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
That's on me now.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Thanks for thanks for being the business manager.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Because your role entails so much that we don't
know what else to call you.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
That's yeah, like Jack about Jamie of all trades.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Podcast co-hosts social media creative teacher.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
You name it, I'll do it.
That's another podcast.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
That's another whole podcast.
Well, from perspective providerto what should Jamie's job
description or title be?

Speaker 1 (59:39):
We'll do a.
What should we call Jamie?
We are on a roll today.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Love it.
You know what?
I will give that to Mary BethTwerty as an assignment.
She'll figure out something tocall you.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Oh title?
Oh yeah, I'm sure she will.
Well, she did.
Oh God, what did she?
She may have said the.
She may have called it thebullshit sorter.
There you go.
I think that's what shereferred to.
It has something along thoselines.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
The BSS.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yes, there we go, the BSS.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Jamie Pantia BSS.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
All right, is that my credit?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yes, well, thank you so much.
Before I digress some more,please rate, review and
subscribe and tell your friendsif you enjoyed this.
I hope you enjoyed this.
Give us some feedback.
If you want to be on thepodcast, please reach out.
And, in the words of the greatMary Beth Twerty, all right,

(01:00:36):
we're done.