Mom Fails: Normal Part Of The Motherhood Experience Or Lack Of Common Sense?

This week on The Momsense Podcast, Molly and Megan start off with their weekly dose of Inez appreciation. Molly then gets into her review of Father's Day and Penny's latest tricks, while Megan updates us on the new developments in Brooke's Penny fascination.

Moving on, Megan talks about Reese's field trip with her new co-op and sunscreen woes. The Rosman clan took a trip to Michigan's Adventure, and Megan gives her thoughts on how it stacks up against Cedar Point.

The women finally get back into book club and review past and current reads for you guys. While Molly was mildly impressed with her books this week, Megan's hit home in an emotional way.

Molly and Meg's conversation about what they googled quickly turns into a discussion on poop, as most mom conversations often do. 

As Molly and Meg finally get around to the episode topic for this week, they begin discussing their most embarrassing mom fails. They quickly realize that what they thought would be a funny topic is eliciting feelings that are not comical. When the mom guilt gets too overwhelming, what do we do? Say it with us: AVOID. The ladies wrap this conversation with a quick discussion about opioids being given out like candy to postpartum moms. 

Thanks for listening to another chaotic week of Momsense, don’t forget to quarter your kids' grapes!

Topics: Father's Day, Michigan's Adventures, Cedar Point, Homeschool Co-Ops, Hair Appointments, Family Pictures, Book Reviews, The Simple Wild, Remarkably Bright Creatures, The Pact, The In-Between, The Tenant by Frieda McFadden, Infant Constipation, Mom Fails, Opioids and Postpartum Moms

Episode Transcript

(00:10):
Welcome to the Mom Sense podcastwith Molly and Meg.
I am Molly, you're my Meg. So this week my mom came over.
She was over yesterday to watch Penny and hang out with her,
hence why we're recording a day later than normal.
But that was fun. It's always really nice to have
her over, like someone to hang out with during the day.
It's so nice. Choose to come over for a visit

(00:32):
or did you guys have something in particular you were doing?
Well, she came over so that I could go get my hair done
yesterday. Yeah, she came over to watch
Penny and then she left, like this morning when I put Penny
down for her first nap. OK, OK.
Yeah, it's a little visit. Yeah, and she spends the night
and watches TV with Taylor and Iafter Penny goes to bed, and she
always makes us dinner when she comes.

(00:54):
It's the best. We, I noticed this when I'm
going back now and looking through and doing my second
filter of myself after you edit,and I realized that we every
single episode have had a littlesnippet of Ina's appreciation
every, every episode, every single episode.

(01:14):
I mean, she's just like a stellar grandma.
I don't know how else to describe it.
Yeah, she's a stellar grandma. And I, like I've said a minute,
well, almost a dozen Times Now, I could have anticipated that
this would be the case. Like, not shocked at all that
she's. Yeah, yeah, that she's a great
grandma. Totally.
You paused and I was like, I didn't say that right, I guess.

(01:34):
No, I didn't know what. Yeah, what you weren't surprised
about, but she like I had to. I mean, I've told her every time
she's come over for the last like 2 months maybe because she
brings groceries with her plans a meal, makes us dinner, leaves
us leftovers, like all these things.
And I'm like mom, I'm OK now. Like you don't have to bring

(01:56):
groceries to my house. It's OK, I can cook.
And I also I have food now. You're gonna be that grandma
though. I think you'll do the exact same
thing. She always says, I know you're
OK, I don't want it to be more stressful for me to be here.
So she wants to take all the stress of hosting out of it.
And I was like, I'm not hosting,Mama.

(02:17):
You're not someone I have to host.
Sorry, my house is dirty. I'm not cleaning it for you.
Like she's that kind of guest. I don't care.
But. She needs to be very.
Nice and so well appreciated. Yeah, she needs to teach a
master class on how to be considerate to others.
I mean. I can find some people.
Have said I would have said all this as a teenager too, that she

(02:38):
was like the most stellar mom. But she is an amazing parent to
an adult child. Why bet?
Like, she does not overstep ever.
And she's very, like, interestedin your life without being
overbearing. She doesn't mother me anymore.
She's like, got it nailed. And I don't know how she did it.
I hope to God I'm just like her.It's a lot of pressure, I'm not

(03:00):
going to lie. Yeah.
Bars high. Yeah, seriously.
Seriously. Penny's going to grow up and be
like Grandma Inez is the best. Why aren't you more like Grandma
Inez? No, she won't.
Other than that, of course, there was Father's Day and I
mean on Mother's Day I didn't really want to do a whole lot.
So we just like hung out and relaxed and Taylor's Taylor for

(03:20):
Father's Day didn't really want to do a whole lot.
We were going to go golfing, butthere was something that stopped
us. I think 1.
I mean, every golf course is crazy busy on Father's Day.
Imagine that. Either way, we went to the park
instead and it was so fun and wejust happened to do like, I

(03:41):
didn't plan it this way, but when Penny was ten days old, it
was Taylor's last day of going in late, coming home early, half
paternity leave kind of thing. We went on a walk downtown, we
got Subs and we went and sat at a park bench and Penny was in
her stroller of sleeping. We did that when she was ten
days old for Father's Day. We ended up doing the exact same

(04:03):
thing. We went to get sandwiches, we
went to the park. It was really fun.
Like Penny just played on the ground and we took a bunch of
pictures and she was just in a great mood that day, which is.
Nice. Yeah, my family's been enjoying
those photos. Yeah, yeah, you guys are so
cute. Oh my God, the video of Brooke
this morning melted my heart. I played it for Taylor too and

(04:24):
he was like, so into it. Did you like the What I found
funny about it is that I said she'd obviously just said it
prior to me turning my camera on.
And she said she being Brooke for everyone who wasn't in our
text message conversation, askedher if it was with any as she
does. And she said it again.
I propped my phone up and I saidwhat?
And she said, photo of Penny. And then she got a little David

(04:48):
with me and she goes, photo of Penny.
And I was like, she goes, please, that was so cute.
Now what I did is I took all thephotos that you've sent me and I
have them in a Penny album because I can't risk her just,
like, swiping and going on too many different things.
It's just, I don't know, makes me nervous.
And I feel like I have to like, yeah, like looking cover and
look. So now she has the whole album.

(05:10):
So funny I know when she said that then I was like Oh my I
gotta find the best ones to send.
Like the most current but best ones.
So I sent you a couple. She wouldn't know if they were
current or not. You can send whatever in your
camera roll, but then Reese comes up and she's gripping it
and she's swiping and looking and showing Reese every single
photo. That is so cute.

(05:34):
Yeah. It's like, God, it's a shame.
I couldn't record it because shehad my phone, but it was funny.
I know. Oh my gosh, they are so cute.
It's getting kind of annoying honestly, but.
You're like, all right, guys, move along.
I like the photos. I like getting the photos too.
That's not the annoying part at all.
It's the like having to revisit over Yeah.
Oh, I bet. I bet Penny recently has been

(05:56):
like, when I, I'm on the floor with her, I have like my phone,
you know, next to me or behind me or something.
And she's been trying to get to it so much.
She, like is obsessed with looking at pictures of herself,
How vain of a baby. I don't understand.
I'll turn the camera on so that she can like make faces at
herself. And she does love that.

(06:16):
But then I have to constantly belike bringing her back to stuff
because she'll get into other parts of my phone and it makes
me so anxious that she's going to accidentally call 911 or
something so. I'd be very advanced of her
well. She always goes to, like the
emergency, you know, like, yeah,yeah, like when your phone's
unlocked and it can call emergency and she'll always go

(06:38):
to like the emergency button. And I know you have to type in
numbers, but like still I don't like that.
Yeah, I get that. So you could use, if you really
want an alternative, you could put a little like get a plastic
mirror. You can get them on Amazon that
has like a little prop. You can put that in front of her
so that she can look at herself.I started.
I had a glass and a ceramic one that I used were three stupid.
I said don't do that. I had one that you propped up

(07:01):
for tummy time, but I need a handheld one.
Yeah, because she wants to bringit toward her face.
And the other one's too big and bulky and stuff.
So I'll have to find one becauseI really don't want her attached
to my phone. I get so embarrassed when we're
in public and I'm on my phone. She reaches for it because I'm
like, I swear to God, I don't let her use it.
Like she doesn't know what it is.
Yeah, you're like, this isn't reflective of how how things are

(07:24):
in our day-to-day, but you know,they're human beings with brains
and they get, what is it dopamine or serotonin?
I never know which one, but theyget whatever.
It's dopamine. Yeah.
She likes the reaction. It only gets worse, yeah.
So two other updates on my end. Penny is waving and it's the
cutest freaking thing in the world.
She was like this. Oh, like this?

(07:48):
Yeah. That's cute.
It's cute. And she claps.
Yeah, whenever I go. Yay, Penny, She goes.
It's so cute. That is really cute.
But if she starts clapping, she looks at whoever's around her,
and if you don't also start clapping, she'll stop.
She'll be like, what the heck, Like why aren't you doing it
with me? Don't make me look stupid.

(08:09):
I have a story that aligns so closely with what you just said.
When she would go down slides at2, just over 2, she was very,
very timid. She's always been a very
cautious child, which with her diagnosis has been hell on earth
because she doesn't initiate stuff.
And so we're like, is this a developmental delay or is she

(08:31):
being cautious? We have no idea.
We have since been able to chalkup to the fact that she's just a
cautious human being. Anyways, she has been really,
really slow to want to go on slides, for example.
She did it a lot later than mostkids.
And so when she started to do it, we would, we were like Dance
Moms on steroids, like great job, like clapping and stuff.

(08:51):
And you know, that went on and we, we did it for a long time
because, and she would get excited about it and like, oh,
this is cute, whatever. And I stopped doing it.
And she would, a 2 year old would go down the slide and then
she'd stop the bottom of the side and she'd go, she would
say, why aren't you clapping? Clap, dance, monkey clap.
Monkey. Exactly right.
So you're not too far away from that.

(09:13):
I know, I know. It's just so funny because she's
starting to like Parrot already and I feel like that it's really
early for her to do that where maybe not.
Maybe I don't have a baby genius.
I just think I do. But we'll say hi back and forth
about 50 times. She'll go hi and I'll go hi, and
then we'll do that back and forth for a very long time.

(09:36):
And then, of course, she copies Mama and Dada when you say that.
But I started saying hi, Kiki, for our Kitty, like, hi, Kitty,
Kitty. And she'll do that.
And then she claps and waves at us when we do it.
So like, she follows our lead, but she doesn't like to do it on
her. When we don't do it, she's mad.
Yeah. Yeah, I remember those days

(09:56):
later yesterday. It's fun.
We're excited. The cutest baby ever.
She's the best. She's going to have her time,
right? Like I was the ugliest preteen,
my God, from 11 to 13, I was thedefinition of awkward.
And so Penny is going to have her moment.
It's coming for, it's just not infant.

(10:18):
Yeah, and it's not infant you said that.
You think she's teething, huh? I mean she's gotta be.
I don't know what else it could be.
Her appetite is low. I'm having a really hard time
getting her to drink the amount of Oz that she's supposed to
drink. She'll eat salads pretty good
but she's only been drinking 3 to 4 oz at a time which is way
less than she was. I always know it's time for her

(10:40):
nap when she starts to just whine for no reason.
She doesn't cry she just will whine and she's now whining
during her entire awake time andI'm like dude what is happening?
So she's got to be teething. However, when I feel it, there's
no bumps or anything like that so.
If you look, can you see like, do you see white patches or

(11:00):
whatever? Not really.
It's also hard to. It's also hard to look at the
top so much. I mean also they're not very
good patients. They don't like keep their mouth
open for extended periods of time.
Seriously. Seriously.
Yeah, I never knew when they were teething.
Everyone would just say, I thinkthat maybe maybe she's teething
or we'd go to the dentist and they'd be like, oh, they have.
She has teeth coming in and I'm like, I've been guessing that,

(11:22):
but I don't. I literally don't know until I
see visual confirmation. I have no idea.
I know when she was getting bottom teeth, I was.
I had no idea she had no symptoms of teething.
When I went into her bedroom to wake her up from a nap and she
smiled, I saw them breaking through and I was like, Oh my
gosh, you have teeth? What the heck, I had no idea.

(11:42):
How long has Penny had her two bottom teeth for?
Since like 6 months. She.
Oh yeah. Before we went, yeah, I'd say
six months. Sorry.
Yeah. Anytime we're talking about
Penny, which is, you know, as I've discussed often you at.
Your house. I meant you and I.
Yes. No.

(12:02):
Talk about you. No, no no, at our house, Reese
likes to tell everyone that Penny Penny, Penny has 2 teeth
now. That is so.
She's had two teeth, I know, butit's like it's the only thing
that she's saying. Like there's new facts about her
that I've shared with you, Reese.
And Reese does not forget anything.
She's has the memory of an elephant.
Unfortunately so. Funny.

(12:24):
Yes, yes, she's going to remember some stuff.
It's terrifying. Terrifying.
It's a little early for that, don't you think dude?
I know. So I penny took went down for
her first nap and then when she woke up we went to Target and I

(12:45):
was feeling fine. Like before we went to Target
and on our way there I was like Oh my God, what is wrong with
me? Like I could doze off right now
like I'm exhausted walking around target.
I felt so disoriented and then Igot home and I was like, OK,
one, I'm going to make some coffee and 2, when she goes on
for her second nap, maybe I'll try to nap.
Because I knew we had to record tonight.

(13:06):
I mean, I don't know why I said that because there's little to
no chance I would ever nap during the day.
Like I just wouldn't and I didn't.
And so I knew today was going tobe a little rough.
Thursdays, I treat my body the best out of any other day of the
week. Every single time.
I'm Larry cognizant of how I sleep.
If I wake up on any other night,I I will just like hold my

(13:29):
kindle out or my phone out and stay up for an hour.
If I wake up during Wednesday night, I'm like, I have to go
back to sleep because if I have to got to like run it for a long
time. And then I'm really mindful of
like how much I eat because my blood sugar drops.
I'm a demon. And so I'm like, I'm the
healthiest version of myself on Thursday.

(13:51):
So usually another example of what I was.
Like so I know right on Tuesday.So let me back up.
Prior to having Penny, I would get migraines every once in a
while. Not all the time, but enough to
say like I get migraines and every time I get a migraine,
meds don't help. And the difference for me

(14:11):
between like a migraine and a headache is that I am nauseous
and vomit when I get migraines. And on Tuesday, I had my first
migraine since I got pregnant with Penny.
And it came on after I put her down for her second nap and
vomited for three hours every 15minutes.

(14:32):
I was like, Oh my God, wow. I was like, Taylor, is there a
chance that you can come home early?
Because I don't feel so great. I am unwell, my goodness.
I took Tylenol but before it could like do anything I started
vomiting. So I was like OK well that
didn't help and then I couldn't take anything else until I
stopped vomiting. I hate headaches.

(14:53):
I think I'd rather have the stomach flu than a headache.
I. Hate that.
Yeah, they're terrible. Yeah, I've been convinced I have
an aneurysm when I get migraineslike that because they like
pulsate and throb and I'm like, and they change with blood
pressure changes for me. Like if my heart rate increases
or my blood pressure changes, then they are excruciating and

(15:15):
I'm like, I have an aneurysm, it's going to blow.
I literally looked up what the symptoms of an aneurysm were
during my last one but then it went away and I was like oh
fine. No aneurysm this time.
Yeah, the next time. So that is a very in depth recap
of my week. How was your week?
It was fine. OK, so after we recorded, we the

(15:37):
next morning had a field trip with Reese's Co-op to starting a
new Co-op this year. And that's a really stressful
thing in and of itself when you're like looking for co-ops.
I mean, when you're looking for anything that you're going to
send your kid to is really stressful, but you go to these
30 minute info sessions and thenyou from that have to decide if

(16:00):
you trust these people with yourchild.
It's just a very overwhelming thing.
Anyways, I've been getting very good feelings about this Co-op
and it's run by a previous teacher.
Anyway, so we go to the field trip and it just like, I don't
know, reconfirmed everything forme.
We went to Lewis Farms. I think I talked about this
before and you had said that youweren't familiar, right?

(16:23):
OK, well, it's up in New Era, MIand they have a whole bunch of
animals there and huge slides and bunch of playgrounds, splash
pads. It's like a kid haven, like a
whole corn barn with slide in it.
Do they have a petting zoo? Yeah, well, like there's animals

(16:44):
all throughout. That's cool.
Yeah, it's really cool. We spent literally all day
there. The field trip left and then we
stayed for another 3 hours. I think Reese went on these big
slides a dozen times and Brooke was playing in these little
houses and it was great. We had such a good time.
We left at like 9:00 AM and we got background.

(17:05):
Wow. Yeah, yeah, all day.
It was awesome, like we had sucha good time.
No, no, I did really good with with application.
However, I'll get sunscreen all over them.
I always, always forget right under the eye.
And so the next morning Reese looks like she ran it through
and had not slept and was on like a rager or something.
And well, I think this is in this update.

(17:29):
So Reese's dance team is doing their first fundraiser and I
feel strongly about not just promoting for Reese, like
throwing it on my social media and being like, gosh, that
fundraiser wants to, I want her to do the work for it.
Like to be honest, she's selling$6 items.
She gets 50% of the profit. I don't care.

(17:49):
Like it doesn't, it's not reallygoing to impact our bottom line
that much. Like I don't know if bottom line
is the phrase I'm looking for, but like it's not going to make
that big of a difference in whatwe have to pay as a family.
So I don't care. She's going to do the promotion
for it. I think that I don't know, just
teachers are what's what I'm looking for responsibility,
right? Yeah, what's she selling?

(18:10):
Dips, meat, rubs, oils, stuff like that.
Like cooking stuff? Yeah, you should have her voice
message. Me and ask if I wanna buy
something. That's what I'm getting at.
She made a video. OK, I recorded her making a
video and then. But in this video it was the
next day. So she has the biggest, like,
red patches underneath her eyes.I see it.

(18:32):
Of course she doesn't. But I'm like, that's my fault.
It's because I didn't put enoughsunscreen on.
Yeah, but yeah, I can send it toyou.
Been hesitant on who to send it to.
Like, I sent it to my grandpa 'cause I know my grandpa's going
to buy, like, the whole catalog for her.
Yeah, that's cute, super supportive, and I sent it to
both my aunts and Colton sent itto his family.

(18:53):
But apart from that, I'm like, I'm just going to wait it out.
But yeah, I'll send it over to you.
Yeah. We'll be planning opportunities
to support her throughout the year.
If you're interested in doing that like you don't feel
pressured by. It Jenna texted me today and
said that she was listening to us.
Jenna. I know.
Or don't you feel popular when she listens?
I texted. Jenna a few weeks ago and was
like congratulations. And then she said Congrats on

(19:15):
the podcast and then she texted me on Tuesday and she said, hey,
I had some time this weekend andI caught up on a few podcasts
and she's like, I just think youare so funny.
You have so many. I think she said like 1 liners
or something. And I was like, you think I'm
funny? No, yeah, you want to know that
I did not get a year funny text from Jenna so she likes you

(19:39):
best. I loved it.
Very nice. I had a phone call with my
friend, last Zach, my friend that I talked about in one of
the episodes recently. We were talking and he had said,
tell me more about the podcast. And so I give him the spiel and
he's like, I loved what I've watched so far.
He traveled to Asia for a few weeks and so he's like, I

(19:59):
haven't had an opportunity to listen to more of it, but like I
listened to the first episode and I loved it.
And I was like, I don't care if you listen to all of our
episodes or not, Please dear God, get past that one.
Yes, seriously. It's not our best.
That's the most awkward 1. So all right, the mom this or
that is one of the best ones do.You think I think the tornado

(20:21):
one's fun? That one's my favorite traveling
with kids. Was it the third episode?
Let me check what the topics where I forgot.
Wow, so. Good mom this or that is to
traveling with kids, then I. Think the pregnancy and birth
stories was good? Raheem says that's his favorite
episode. I said that's it's because it's
in your wheelhouse. You're a registered nurse.
Keith had a lot to say about your story.

(20:42):
Did I already tell you that I'm meeting with new O BS?
No. I'm not going back to the same O
BS that I had right, Right. I have to get my annual anyway.
So I'd rather like get my annualand talk about my previous birth
and like what our plan is going to be for our next one before
you pregnant. Yeah.
OK, I thought this was like a we're thinking we're knocking on

(21:03):
the door pregnancy #2. No, go ahead and finish your
updates. I don't have any fun updates so
this is way better than what theheck I have to say on Father's
Day. Well on Saturday night we are
sitting out on our deck. Colton was like, what are you
doing? And I was like scrolling on my
phone. I had like got this itch all of

(21:24):
a sudden to start looking up something we can go do on the
4th of July. Because let me tell you, I hate
hate, hate, hate, hate going somewhere, watching the
fireworks, getting in your car and then being in the two hour
long line to get out of said location.
And my kids are at the age wherelike Reese can hang for a while
and Brooke like we can do a later nap and it'll be fine.

(21:48):
I have some looking up hotels indifferent places that will have
views of the fireworks so that we can walk somewhere and then
walk back to the hotel. And you got to pre plan these
things. Apparently I was looking in Del
Mar, in Traverse City. Yeah, sold out.
I was looking. I was.
I went from Traverse City. I went to Detroit.

(22:09):
Detroit to stairs in June, that's where.
Grand Haven, Holland. I'm going all over Michigan.
Hotels are. They're sold out.
Few and far between. So yeah, all like Taylor told me
on Wednesday, maybe, maybe. Yeah, it was Wednesday.
He's like, hey, I have the 4th of July off and I could probably

(22:29):
get out of work early on Thursday.
We should go up north and do something.
And I was like, thank God. We are the kind of family that
is home every 4th of July. We never do anything.
We don't even like, do anything in town.
And I, I hate that. Like it's one of the most fun
weekends to go do summer relatedthings and we just never have.

(22:50):
So I was pumped. There's no Airbnb's, there's no
hotels, there's absolutely nothing.
And I told Taylor the only thingI could find is a condo at a
golf resort that we go to every year, but it was like
astronomical for three nights. Yeah, we have the same issue.
Anyways, I'm scrolling on my phone, and I say that to him.

(23:13):
And he was like, do you want to go to Michigan Adventures
tomorrow? Michigan's adventure, whatever,
whatever the name of that place is.
And I was like, it's your day, do you want to do that?
Father's Day tomorrow? I don't know.
And he was like, yeah, He's like, do you want to do that?
Because if you want to do that, I want to do that.
I was like, sure. I mean, I haven't been there.
I went with my friend in high school and I've been back since.

(23:37):
I haven't really had niche, but if you want to go, we can go.
Sure. Was it fun?
Cedar Point is fun. Cedar Point is really fun.
Michigan, Michigan's Adventure, whatever the name is, that place
is like, it's like the ugly stepchild of Cedar Point.
Like Cedar Point. The food is fantastic.

(23:58):
You're on a peninsula so you're surrounded by water.
Your hotels are awesome. It is so cool machine.
It's Adventure is not that. I went on a one ride so the kids
were playing Holton's like why don't you go on a roller coaster
really quick? And I was like, say no more.
So I get in line for a roller coaster and I go on it and
Corkscrew. Have you been OK?

(24:21):
Which by the way, Cedar Point has a Corkscrew and Michigan's
Adventure is much better. But anyways, when we get all the
way to the top, I like roller coasters.
Like I, I will go on any roller coaster once, but I have a
horrific fear of heights. So I keep my eyes closed on the
first hill. They stop at the top of the hill
and I'm like, of course, hyperventilating.

(24:42):
I'm like very uncomfortable and I had no idea what was going on.
I don't know how long we're going to sit up here and it's
like a few seconds. They let us go and we pull into
the thing and this person works at Michigan's Adventure, comes
up to the people behind us and hands on hips and says, I told
you not to have your phone out and you had your phone out the

(25:04):
whole time and then just paused to like it was like a parent
scolding a child. It was like not not like a
professional like rubber handing.
People that were on the ride hadtheir phone out.
Yeah, and that's why they stopped as the top.
Why do you care? Like why is that a problem?
You're not supposed to do that. Why no No, because it get to

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hurt someone. Oh if.
You drop it, yes. It's really cool that you guys
did the spontaneous thing together.
I love that. We stayed like 5 seconds there.
We went to the water park for the most of the day and that
water park is spectacular. So, so good.
And Colton, this I have nothing for my one thing that I did for

(25:48):
myself. This is honestly the only thing
I can say and I sound shitty forit because I was shitty for it.
I sat in a chair most of the dayand I read on my Kindle and
every time Colton would come, hewas like very, he wanted me to
do that because you know, I pourmy heart and soul and everything
into these kids all day long. But anyways, he would like come
up and he would go happy Mother's Day.
Thank you so much, you having a good time.

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Thank you. It was so nice.
I laid in a chair. I read on my Kindle, I got tan.
It was fantastic. So anyway, it's short story long
thing. You did for yourself what?
Take advantage like it's my own day.
Skip that the fact that you got tan and read your book.
Yeah. And then?
Run after kids in a water park. Thank Jesus.

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No, but I did take them to the bathroom 400 freaking times.
I bet it's like dude just pee inthe pool.
So I was a kid. This is the goddamnest truth.
I never, never peed in a pool. I don't know what was instilled
upon me to never do that, but I never did.
That's the truth. I looked at Reese at one point.
Pee like every other child. Why are we going to the bathroom

(26:55):
a million times? So I did my part, kind of.
Anyways, so we went to Michigan's Adventure, and then
Reese had Marine biology Camp. Yeah.
Yeah. And she loved that.
They use something called Kiwico.
They do crafts and educational stuff, science, STEM, whatever
you can think of, they have it. I first came aware of it because

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Zach signed Reese up for a subscription for one of her
birthdays. And so since then, I've been
like obsessed with this company.Anyways, they use that company
for this camp. And Reese adored it.
And Brooke and I had a day. We went to the splash pad and we
went to a little cafe in the downtown area, which was
awesome. It was just a great day.
And then that night the girls started soccer, restarted soccer

(27:45):
bricks, started something that affected essentially, she's just
throwing fits on her field. No, poor girl, she almost, she
refused. She refused.
We started Reese in soccer when she was over 3.
Brooke is 2 like it is for sure early, but I don't know.
I'm glad that we started her andI like she's been obsessed.

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She wore her soccer jersey the next day to Reese's dance class
just because she's so into it. She's kicking a soccer ball all
around her house. Will not participate at soccer's
practice not on the field, very into it otherwise.
No, no, no. And I'm disclosed like she her
favorite word is no. So yeah, you can.
You can picture what it's like there, but.

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That is so funny. Whatever.
And then restarted dance class into the children's museum
today. So I have not done a whole lot
besides kid focus stuff well. That's alright.
Yeah. OK.
So the thing that I did for myself this week is I got my
hair done yesterday, right? First time I've had it done

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since December. It really needed it.
Got tons of it cut off. I did not have any more
overstimulated moments where I cut it off on my own.
However, I'm sure that you're very excited to hear how my hair
stylist responded to the rogue cutting of my beings.
Yeah, Tell. Us so I had never been to this

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guy before He was recommended tome from my sister-in-law and he
was doing the consultation. OK wait let me preface she kind
of gave me the lowdown about himand I was very excited.
He seems really outgoing and funand I need that I need someone
to like amp me up. I'm not feeling my best.
I need someone to that like, youdon't make me feel good.
And he was like a dud. He was like quiet, seemed like

(29:33):
he was in a mood, seemed like I was imposing on his day.
I was like, I have to spend 3 1/2 hours with you.
And he just seemed like he did not want to be there.
I was like, this is not what I sacrificed my time for and what
I'd been looking forward to for weeks.
I even tried to steer the conversation in the way that I
wanted to go. I was like, this is the first

(29:54):
time I've got my hair done in months.
I need it drastically. We're getting family pictures
taken next week and I'm very anxious to like be in front of
the camera postpartum for the first time and I just need to
feel good about myself. And didn't change his demeanor
in any way. What?
A bummer when you, I'm sure other moms can relate to this,

(30:14):
but like when you get time off to go get your hair done, this
socialization is a big piece of it.
That's such a bummer. I mean his job he did fantastic,
but it would have been great if he could converse better.
Yeah, yeah. All right.
We are going to get into book club.
We're finally going to bring that background.
I think we did it in Episode 3, something like that, and we're
gonna review what we have read since then and what we are going

(30:39):
to read next. I do have to check my audio
books real quick before we start.
I mean, no pressure to list all of your books because as you can
see, I got a Lone Ranger. So since we talked last, I've
read The Pact by Jodi Pico. I would say it was like a 3.5.
I read it and listened to it like it just depended on if I

(31:01):
was in the car or like able to sit and read and it was all
right. It was about like a young high
school couple and they had like a suicide pact where they were
both gonna commit suicide, but then the girl was the only one
that ended up doing it and the guy was on trial for murdering
her. I always think that hers are so

(31:22):
well written, it keeps you wondering what's gonna happen.
But I did think out of the JodiePico books that I've read, that
one was just a little slow. It's hard for me to get through
at some points, but it was alright.
It wasn't my favorite 1 of hers,but it wasn't terrible.
After that I listened to the In Between, which is like a memoir
for my book club and it's written by a Hospice nurse and

(31:46):
it goes through five to seven. I can't remember what, how many
patient stories and talks about what got them into Hospice and
their end of life and kind of what was going on in this nurses
personal life during all of this.
And it was all right. Currently I'm reading Remarkably
Bright Creatures for a differentbook club and I'm only 70 pages

(32:06):
in and it's good so far but I mean nothing has happened yet.
It's a little like slow going atfirst.
Yeah, that's what I've heard. Jenna.
Jenna told me that it's slow at some points, but that the ending
is absolutely incredible. I agree.
And I'm listening to The Tenant by Freda McFadden.
OK. Yeah, that one's fine.
So far, nothing earth shattering.

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Next I pick for my family book club and that one I actually
have. Like we're meeting tomorrow and
I'm between 2:00. So I'm between The Measure,
which is a sci-fi book, and The River is Waiting, which is the
new Wally Lamb book, and it's got addiction and how it impacts
their family and their personal life.

(32:49):
It was in Oprah's book club recommendation.
Yeah. So the measure I've heard a lot
about. I know I've heard that that
one's really good for book clubs.
I just have to see. I'm going to read the back of it
and see if I think it'll be goodfor this book club.
And then I'll read the back of the other one and determine that
too. The last time I picked a book, I
brought two books with me and like, we voted on which one we

(33:13):
wanted to read. So I might do that because I
want to read both of these. There you go.
Yeah, OK. Yeah.
All right. That's my book club.
This this month. What have you done?
I read The Simple Wild as everyone knows.
I mentioned that what, 6 weeks ago?
I don't know. As you had mentioned to me last
week that you can listen to audio books on Spotify.

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I realized that I could not and it's because Colton and I were
in a family thing and he was thefamily manager.
So I'm like, that's not going tohappen anymore.
I'm a manager now of our little clan and they can now listen
audiobook. So once that happened, I flew
through the simple Wild and I have mixed feelings on it.

(33:57):
So is it a good romance book? Kind of.
I wasn't in love with the relationship, which is like, I
mean, not the primary focus, butlike, you know, a focus.
If you're reading a romance book, it's pretty much the
focus. Right.
And then the other piece of it is that I don't know what to
disclose because I, I haven't read the back of it, so I don't

(34:19):
know what it promotes. Essentially, there is a person
in the story that has terminal cancer.
And I'm having a really hard time with those books lately
because my grandma passed away from cancer in 2019, and I was
her primary caretaker during that time.

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And so I saw exactly what that looks like.
I can almost talk about anythingin my life that has happened
very objectively. I cannot talk about that.
I have not touched that yet. But anyways, I really struggle
with the books like this. And so that's why it has taken
me so long to finish it. So don't take my dragging my
feet as a sign that this book isn't great.

(35:01):
I think that it is good. Yeah.
It's just a me thing, so. Do you ever not finish books?
No, I want to start. I feel like I have to see it
through. I feel like it's new, that I
will not finish books. You know it's a healthy way to
go about it. It's new, though.
It wasn't like that always. I would feel like this
commitment, but I've like found that I'll start a book, it'll be

(35:24):
like a month in and I'm barely halfway and there's something
else that I want to read more and then I just stop.
Yeah, yeah, I should have done that with this one because yeah,
that cancer thing, it hits home.And my grandma, like I said
before, she was like #1 in my life, we had an incredible
relationship. And so like bringing brought
back to that is like very touchy.
Yeah. And the other thing that I felt

(35:47):
about this, and I feel this way about romance is a lot is that
sometimes it's like, I feel likecertain pieces are
underdeveloped, like because they're just like trying to move
the romance piece along. And so because of that, a lot of
the rest of the plot gets moved on rather quickly in my opinion.
And I noticed that with this book, which I'm always a little

(36:08):
picky when it comes to romances.Yeah.
So I'll just say it was it was like 3.75.
I don't know if I'm going to dive into the rest of the
series. And so that brings me to what am
I going to read next? I don't know.
I have no clue. The four maybe, or the
favorites. I've I've heard such good things
about it. I saw one bad review.

(36:29):
So that's the only reason I haven't already picked it up and
started it, because I'm like, not.
Good. Anything about that?
I don't know what I'm feeling like it's a mood thing.
Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I get in that sometimes where
like, I don't know, just nothingsounds good.
Nothing sounds worth the commitment.
Yeah, well, honestly, it's. When I go back to audiobooks.
Must came through, but if anyonewants to make recommendations, I

(36:51):
know this is going to come out in two weeks, but I might not
have selected a book by then so your opinions might still be
valid. Throw them my way.
Yeah, actually just in general, some Bookrex would be good.
OK, cool Book club #2 in the books, we're going to cut that
out. No, please don't even that.
Very dorky. I liked it.

(37:15):
Yeah. So I'm hoping by the next time
we do it, I will have finished remarkably by Creatures, The
Tenant, The Measure and the River is waiting.
But we'll see. I might want to throw a thriller
in there somewhere because I don't think either of those are,
but we'll see. Do you want to move on to things
we're loving? Up to you.
Do you have anything that you love this week?
I mean, it's like I. Hate.
No. Everything.

(37:37):
Yeah, no, I'm also in my. What is it?
It's your luteal phase right now, so I'm feeling a little.
Yeah, unpleasant. All right, I was like this this
afternoon when Penny was down for her nap in this, her second
nap. I like did my hair and makeup
and got ready to record tonight and was like very excited, like

(38:00):
wanted to hop on right then. And then by the time recording
time came around, I was like, I'm tired.
So I get it. OK, We are going to review what
we've Googled this week. So today, I mean, I have
mentioned it several times on the podcast that Penny gets dark
under eyes and they're not thereall the time.

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They are there every day at somepoint, but they're not like
constant. My feelings about them come and
go. Like sometimes I'll be really
anxious about it. Sometimes I'll be like, whatever
she's acting just finds. We do go to the pediatrician on
Tuesday, so I'm very excited to see what they have to say.
I know that their answer is not going to give me any Peace of

(38:43):
Mind. They're going to say, well, if
she's acting fine, it's fine. Isn't that the truth?
I freaking hate that because I need some kind of answer it
drives me nuts. So anyway my anxiety got the
best of me and I googled like why does my 9 month old have
dark circles under her eyes? Oh God, what?
It's a. Dark circles under a nine month

(39:04):
old baby's eyes can be concerning, but they're often
not a sign of anything serious. Here are some common causes.
Genetics, Thin skin, fatigue, orlack of sleep.
I know that's not it because this girl takes 3 hour naps
twice a day and sleeps for 10 hours at night, so that's not
it. Nasal congestion or allergies.
She does not have nasal congestion, but Taylor gets

(39:27):
gnarly allergies. So it's very possible that she
might have some of that dehydration or poor nutrition.
This one makes me anxious, right?
Because she's not eating as much.
She's not drinking as many ounces as I would like her to
drink. She does drink water out of her
sippy cup and she eats when it'smeal time.
So like, I know she's eating enough, but you know, my mom

(39:50):
feelings tell me otherwise. And then like illness or anemia.
So she could have low iron, which my mom thinks she might
have because of her dark circles.
But this brings me around to. A question for you, did you give
your girls iron vitamin? Yeah, they still take them.
They take a multi multivitamin with extra iron in it.

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And let me tell you, it's slim pickings, especially when they
get older and they get really picky about the things that they
ingest. It's difficult.
All right, now I got a self disclose.
So when we went from she got vitamin D drops in her breast
milk right to they recommended like a multivitamin with iron.

(40:33):
The pediatrician didn't say likedon't forget to give her a
vitamin with iron. They give us a handout at the
end of every appointment and it's like this laundry list of
things. And it just said somewhere in
there like switch your vitamin to one with iron.
So I did, I bought 1 and I started giving it to her right
away after her six month appointment.

(40:53):
And I gave it to her for a few days in a row and it made my
very regular baby very constipated, like for the first
time, didn't go for several daysin a row.
And so I cut the dose in half. And then she kind of like, I
don't know, I'm trying to recallwhy I stopped giving it.
I think like it was still kind of giving her Constipation

(41:15):
issues. So anyway I just kind of stopped
giving it to her because I was like if it was that big of a
deal they would have told me with their words like give her
the vitamin. But now I feel like a bad mom
and I should give her the vitamin which is fine.
I definitely can go back to doing it because I also got her
prune purees because this girl is backed.
Up. Yeah, In my experience, if you
go into the pediatrician and youtell them that your child's

(41:39):
experiencing Constipation, they're like half a cap of
Miralax every day and a clear liquid.
And I'm like, there's nothing else that we could suggest for
this. Yeah, I give her prunes and it
worked like charm. Less then 8 hours later she
pooped for the first time in three days.
Whoa. She felt good, yeah.
So I think I need to start doingthat again because I feel like

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maybe her iron is low. Could very well be.
Yeah, both my girls, I thought. OK, I'm going to try it again.
We'll see. Maybe it'll help.
OK, what did you Google? OK, so I ChatGPT D have you seen
the trend going around TikTok onwhere the somebody will use the
prompt like hey, chat GPD createme a visual of what it's like to

(42:23):
converse with me on a regular basis.
Please be very honest, don't hold back.
And then Chad creates a visual and I did that.
God, what is your visual? It was a very tired mom sitting
at a computer with their child in their lap.
And then Mom looks just like theshovel.

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Inside. And there's a notebook that says
podcast ideas on it. And behind them is another child
at like a a desk and then a chalkboard.
And it says homeschooling lesson.
And then on the other side, there was a stack of books and
the books outlined all of the psychiatric questions.

(43:08):
My. God, that's so funny.
OK so the second thing that I I googled this was bruises without
injury. And it told you that you were
anemic or that you had a blood disease.
Yeah, Yep, yeah. I have anything from an injury
that I don't remember to leukemia.

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But anyways, I think that I I sent that photo to you so that
you could see because it's Molly.
It's huge. That first one is like, like the
width of my thigh. It was so dark.
And like I said, we went to a water park.
And so I have these huge bruises.
I'm like Colton, I better not like bicker at all because we're
going to send a message. I think you want to know what I
think It's from what? Holding Brooke on my lap because

(43:55):
she bounces up and down and stuff like that.
And I think that my iron must below as well or something,
because yeah, huge, huge bruiseson my legs.
Yeah. Ask me if I've started taking
iron since I noticed those bruises.
The answer is no. Those are gnarly bruises.
I cannot blame it. Yeah, big.
OK, cool. Then this week we're going to

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talk about mom fails. I thought that was really funny.
We're going to be very vulnerable and talk about the
dumb stuff that we did as new moms.
And we also encourage all of youguys to share what you're
embarrassing mom feels are. Because yeah, I like it.
I thought people who talk on theInternet about their experiences
are often trying to showcase thebest and shiniest.

(44:37):
And so I like the fact that we're talking about something
that doesn't necessarily going to paint us in the best light.
And it's very real. We're all tired, we're all
trying our best. All of us are doing this for the
first time at least once and have no freaking idea what we're
doing. So I like the amnesty there
because not perfect. Yep, you just said we all do
this for the first time once. My first example is literally

(44:58):
the first task I had to do with this child.
So I had her on a Friday, we hadto stay Friday night and
Saturday night and then we were discharged on Sunday night and
the nurses had left to get the wheelchair to take me to the car
and we were putting Penny in hercar seat.
OK, let me back up before we left I was putting her in her

(45:22):
going home outfit. All we had to do was was figure
out a way to dress this baby. I hadn't dressed her before so I
was like what the heck is going on?
And then we put her in her car seat, which because she was
under 5 lbs, five oz or something, she had to do a car
seat test where she got in the car seat for an hour with heart

(45:42):
monitor on to make sure she didn't have any respiratory
issues. And so on Saturday, we sat with
her in the ICU and watched her do her car seat test.
I should have paid more attention because I had to
buckle her into the car seat when we were leaving.
The nurses did it for the test and I buckled her in wrong.
Like the lap belts. So you know how there's the

(46:03):
chest clip and then there's the clip that goes between her legs
and like over her thighs. I put her legs over the thigh
things. Were you like?
What's the purpose that's the best?
No, I was like, why does it lookso?
Weird. Why are her?
Legs, like up in the air. Penny was the size of my hand.
She was anything. So I was like, am I going to

(46:25):
break this baby? They brought in the wheelchair
and I finally had realized what I did.
And I had to be like, just give us 5 more minutes.
I did this wrong. But she looked so weird.
And it took Taylor and I foreverto figure out why does this look
wrong? It was embarrassing.
So yeah. Have you seen the?
Very first time. Have you seen the car seats that
they had in like the 80s or it'sjust like, it's just like a

(46:50):
metal lap bar. That's effectively what you were
doing. I know, I know, it was like a
roller coaster ride like literally just just a chest
clip, that's it. It was so embarrassing.
Prior to this, I had seen all ofthose TikTok videos of
recommendations now and then howI went home from the hospital
and I saw one where the baby wasstill swaddled.

(47:13):
Like he swaddled. He was just like, I don't think
that's correct. I got you right, no.
Yeah, so that was really embarrassing.
How's that thing? That they were still swaddled.
Yeah. The hospital won't let you leave
unless you have a car seat. And then somebody.

(47:34):
Walked, but you probably should check that the babies properly
in the car seat if you're going to be that much of A stickler
about having wood because I'm providing wrong.
All right, Thank. Yeah, right.
Thank goodness someone checked Molly, because she knew that.
I could not believe it. Like I said, we're all we've
we're all learning how to do this for the first time at least
once. I literally looked at Taylor and

(47:56):
I was like why are why do her legs look so weird?
Because they were like, stick itoff.
Well, Molly, let's figure she's up.
Probably. Yeah.
You're strained here. This poor baby, she.
Didn't figure it out. Poor baby.
Well, my first one. OK, so there's a lot to the
story, but essentially I had gone out to get food.

(48:17):
If I'm being completely honest with you, I had gone out to get
a break from my husband because I needed one.
OK, so. Don't we all?
And he'll, he, he would laugh atthat.
So I went out and I was going topick up food and I get to the
food place and Colton calls me and he goes, where are you?
I need to meet you at we, we need to meet at the emergency

(48:37):
room. I'm like.
How old was who? Which kid was this with?
Reece and a year and a half, Sir, I left you alone with this
child for 25 minutes. I was pissed at you when I left.
Imagine how I feel right now, War said.
OK, what's going on? He said, you know, he gives me
his whole. My eyes were on her the whole

(48:58):
time. But then I turned my eyes away
for a second. And in that second, she pumped a
rock in her nose. There's so many questions and I
honestly think an IQ test might be muted for both of you Said
okay, I'm mad. We agree where we're going to
meet. I am like looking on my phone
what to do in this scenario and it tells me a step by step of

(49:19):
how to dislodge a foreign body from a nostril.
So I'm like Colton, when we get to the, you wait in your car,
I'm going to try something 1st And he says OK.
And he's, you know, he's feelingterrible that like we weren't
getting along. Then this happened under his
watch. His child is distressed.
So he's like like just not on his best.

(49:41):
He's stressed out, poor guy. And so we get to the hospital
and it tells you how to dislodgeit.
You're supposed to blow in and plug.
And so then what happens is thatit should come out the other
nostril When you do this, I think you blow into the mouth.
That's what you do. You blow into the mouth and it's
supposed to, you know, and so I try to do it and, you know, her
mom is hovering over her in her car seat, blowing into her

(50:03):
mouth. And so she's absolutely not
having it. And I know in that moment, if I
do this again and I do it with more power, I can get this thing
out. But I'm so stressed out about
her stress levels and how she's feeling.
And I don't know if she's in pain because she is 1 1/2 and
can't effectively communicate that.

(50:24):
So I'm like, screw it. We're going into the hospital.
We go into the hospital and the we get checked into the room.
The doctor comes in and goes, sowhat's going on?
We tell her what's going on, what happened?
And she goes, OK, have you ever heard of this technique?
Were you this technique? I just tried it in the car.
And she goes, well, let's try itagain.
And Reese is at this point hysterical flailing.

(50:47):
And I, I'm having, I'm emotionalbecause of my child's
distressed. And I'm having a hard time even
restraining her because I'm likeI don't want to.
Head butter. I don't want to do additional
harm to this, yeah. Can you do it?
I'd be like Doctor. Can you do it?
Nope. She, she was trying to coach us
through it. And I was like trying to
understand. She's like, she turns her back

(51:08):
and goes, OK, I'm going to go get some additional nurses to
help us. She turns her back.
In that moment, Colton leans down, puts his mouth on hers,
and the rock shoots out of her mouth, shoots out of her mouth.
I could have been the hero in that scenario, but I wasn't.
And you know what happened? We walked out, they looked at
Reese and they said, you want a popsicle, sweetie?

(51:28):
And of course she says yes. So we walked out with a $150.00
popsicle because that's how muchwe had to pay to dislodge the
rock on our own. Yeah, it just, it's, it sucked
because the fail there is that if I would have just been
effective in the car, then we could have gotten it all out and
not had to pay, you know, the hospital and wasted their time

(51:51):
and resources and stuff. So that's the fail fond memory.
I'm not gonna lie, it's a good story.
Thank you. Oh, I have not heard that one
before. All right.
Penny was born in September. Christmas time was the first
time that she was she slept in the car, right?
Like, we had to drive to my mom's house.

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I was so incredibly anxious because every time I would put
Penny in the car, she would scream her freaking head off.
Like whether we're in the car 5 minutes or were in the car for
an hour, she was to the point where like she would
hyperventilate. It was terrible, terrible.
We had a three hour drive to my mom's house and I was like, I
don't know if I'm coming for Christmas.
I'm sorry. Like if she's still in that

(52:33):
phase, I cannot. Lo and behold, she slept the
entire 3 hour drive. This is the first time this had
ever happened. So I was not confident on our
return journey. I didn't have enough data to
support that she was going to sleep again, right?
I was like, we could very well have a hard time.
And I worked for like an hour, maybe more to get Penny to sleep

(52:55):
before I put her in her car seatbefore we left so that we'd have
the best opportunity. And she was still at that age
where I could transfer her pretty effectively and she would
stay asleep. So I'd worked for so long.
This was the same weekend that I, for the very first time,
disclosed to my mom that I thinkI was struggling, that it wasn't
normal. So I was like hanging on by a

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thread during every conversationthat that weekend, during every
moment, I was like seconds away from bursting into tears at any
moment. So I put her in her car seat,
took a deep breath. She was sleeping.
I was buckling her in and tiny little penny fingers, you know,
like all cuddled up. And I clipped her chest belt.

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And she woke up and did that thing where she like, opens her
mouth and you can tell she's about to wail, but she like,
inhales. And I was like, Oh my God.
And I realized that I had clipped her finger in the clip
belt. Oh yeah, I still stuck in there.
Or. I noticed it no like it was it
was in there but I noticed it before like I had it completely

(53:58):
fastened so I pushed it togetherand she started freaking out
quick took it out so like fingerwas fine.
There was number damage to the finger but I woke her up of
course and crying and I was liketrying to play it cool because I
had literally just disclosed to my mom that I was on the brink
of a mental breakdown and did this in front of my mom and dad
by the way. Like it was so embarrassing and

(54:20):
also shittiest Bob ever for pinching her little teeny baby
finger in the stupid car seat. Needless to say, she was not
sleeping on the way home. Fun.
Yeah, this car seat business is not for me, no.
Yeah, Oh yeah, it's boosters or whatever is the next step.
I think they're called boosters.That's where it's at.
And it Oh my gosh, yes. Space you get back to yeah, the

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car seats suck. I have one like that that I'll
add in and Thanksgiving. When Reece was it was before
Brooke was born. I don't know, it was
Thanksgiving and she was stayed up at my in laws house, which we
will never do with an young child again.
She didn't sleep very well that night.
And then, you know, we go into busy, lots of people

(55:05):
environment, she gets very overstimulated and we skip her
nap. And she was having a lot of big
emotions. We're having a hard time, you
know, helping regulate her. And so finally we're like, OK,
we have to leave and we have to drive around and hopefully
she'll fall asleep in the car and we can get her to sleep for
30 minutes and then she'll come back refreshed and a new and in

(55:28):
the car. She got so worked up.
She is she had never gotten thisworked up in her life and she
has never gotten worked up to that point since We've never
seen anything like this with her.
She was screaming and you know, she's behind us.
She's rear facing. Of course we have the mirror,
but we can't see like we in our minds assumed that what was

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happening was she was so overtired and.
Totally. That with a little bit of extra
time she would soothe and fall asleep.
So we keep driving and look backin the rearview mirror and she
is kicking so violently. She has her shoe off kicking so
violently. And I see blood.
I don't know how I there's nothing she can clip herself up.

(56:12):
So yeah, I, I'm like, no patients yelling at Colton to
pull over. And he's like, you know, he's
stressed out too. And he pulls over and she like,
I don't know what she had done. She was kicking something so
aggressively that she ended up ripping a part of her toenail.
And and we, yeah, we ended up she falls asleep.

(56:32):
We drive around in sheer silence.
Not because we were like, silent.
So we don't wake her up. It was like silence because we
have no energy left to give one another.
There's nothing left to provide.And so she sleeps for a while.
We're finally like, OK, I guess we can like, go back to the
Thanksgiving festivities. And we pull in and my gosh, I

(56:52):
felt like such a walk of shame. My sister-in-law cams up to us
and she's like, are you OK? And she's like asking me
questions and I'm like, crying to her.
And I'm so embarrassed. I'm crying.
And she's like, I don't know. She was just clearly like, Megan
needs to get this out. And she like, was so present in
the moment. I'm so thankful for her.
Also very embarrassed that I wascrying.
It was horrible, horrible. So after those car seats.

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Seriously. Seriously, these are funny, I
think, to people that aren't. Violent like injuries.
Because I'm like, Oh my God, these are were meant to be funny
and they're just making me relive the fact that I felt.
Horrible. All of these.
Yeah, I don't think that. All right, and comes the next
one, right? Speaking of blood.

(57:34):
And hopefully it makes somebody else feel better.
Seriously, that's the goal, guys.
Just everyone, I want to say everybody does it, but at least
we do it. I bought the nail buffer for
Penny when she was born because I just like assumed, like
everybody said, I'd be terrifiedto clip her nails.
I think I used it one time and it was like.
Automatic 1. The the grinder thing.

(57:56):
Yeah, yeah. I thought that would be what I'd
wanted used at one time. Then I just, like, started
using, you know, Clippers. And it was fine until I did clip
her skin and she lets out the most insane whale.
And I did not do the other hand.And my gosh, the way that her
fingers bleed, I was like, are you gonna lose your whole blood

(58:18):
volume out of your teeny tiny little fingernail?
Like she bled all over her clothes.
And then I put applied pressure,right.
Thought that it was fine, Put a Band-Aid on it.
And then she, you know, took theBand-Aid off because why would
you put a Band-Aid on a one month olds hand and got it all
over her like play gym thing. And I was like how do you get

(58:40):
blood out of like everything youowned?
Yeah. So I felt terrible.
I think I held her finger up above her head for so long and
it I mean eventually of course it stopped, but you can't put a
Band-Aid on a finger that's the size of a toothpick.
I felt so bad. Yeah, the worst thing about that
situation had just be the the mom guilt associated with that

(59:02):
and then the aftermath of going to clip her nails again in the
future. You're probably so traumatized.
Yes. Can't do that again.
I like make sure I have lighting.
Scissorhands. I like pull the skin down behind
the nail and I like make sure I can see the side of the Clippers
through her nail so I know I'm only getting the nail but.

(59:23):
OK, awful gives. Me so much anxiety now.
Yeah, yeah, right. Do either you or Taylor bite
your nails? No, neither of you.
Taylor doesn't either. OK, never mind.
I don't buy mine either. I used to though, But when I was
working out the marketing job that I mentioned last time or
the time prior or whatever, I was like getting acrylics during
that time and it it killed my 20seven-year habit that I had

(59:47):
going on. Anyways, Colton bites his nails
and both of my toes. Reese Brooke just started doing
it and I'm like, so anyways, I was going to say they do it for
you if they're a nail biter or something, but never mind.
OK, so my next one is another injury.
All mine are injuries, all of them.
So I learned last year the hard way that going down a slide with

(01:00:13):
your child on your lap is. Not smart.
I didn't know that. I thought that I was being a fun
mom and I was playing with my child on the playground.
So I sat down, put her on my lap, her being Brooke, and she
was like very in slides at this point and we're going to slide.
And Brooke stuck her leg straight out on the side of the

(01:00:36):
slide and hurt her leg. I knew immediately that she was
hurting. She started to walk a little bit
and then whine and then immediately resorting to
crawling. So we were there for a play
date. I tell the other family we have
to wrap it up. I am asking Colton what we
should do. Should I take her straight to
the ER? She will walk on it a little

(01:00:57):
bit. I don't know.
It was inconsistent, so I wasn'tsure.
I was going back and forth. And he's like, go home, see how
it goes, and it'll be clear to you at when she's back in her
own environment. And so I said OK, and we got
home and sure enough, I was like, yeah, we definitely need
to go in. So we went to urgent care and we
got all the tests done and she was fine.

(01:01:18):
But that was traumatizing in itsown right.
Doing X-rays, not great. And everything was fine.
How? Do you get him to stay still?
You have to bear hug them and yeah, it's terrible.
I'm crying and one of the people's like, rubbing my back
is the whole thing. Yeah, this is really awful to
think about. I know.

(01:01:40):
And anyway, so I look up on my phone while I'm waiting because
we're sitting in the room and I'm looking up everything that
could possibly happen from this injury.
And every, every pediatric emergency room doctor is making
a video on TikTok saying never, ever, ever slide down a slide
with I'm like, this is common knowledge.

(01:02:01):
And I had, I had no knowledge ofthis.
None whatsoever. Yeah, hopefully this helps
somebody. You're not supposed to do that,
apparently. Yeah, I never would have known
that before you told me this story.
She ended up being fine. There clearly was some sort of
injury. We were not able to determine
what it was. Maybe she like screened?
It or something? I don't know she she wasn't

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walking for I think it was like 2 weeks after and then like I
shared, I think in the last episode took well over a year
for her to go to a slide by herself again.
Traumatized, she remembers. She's she Molly?
Yeah. She remember.
Yeah. Poor.
Girl. Yeah, so my bad.
OK I feel like my last two aren't as traumatizing for me.

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OK, Good. Good, good, good.
Yeah, I had to put in some that weren't so terrible.
This next one I think that everypumping mom has to have done,
and if not, then good for you. But I pumped one day before I
headed out for the day. Taylor was watching her and I
don't know why, but I put it on the counter because usually I'll

(01:03:04):
pump in the living room, I'll bring it with the attachment
still on it to the kitchen. I'll take the attachment off and
put a lid on the bottle. And for some reason I never put
it in the fridge and I just lefta big seven ounce bottle of
pumped milk on the counter and then I came back 8 hours later
and it was still on the counter.So I wasted that.
Isn't that the worst thing that could happen?

(01:03:25):
Is so defeating? When that happens, you're like
I, that's liquid gold and I justwasted my time.
Wasted him and wasted it in the sense that like it feels like
you directly withheld nutrition from your child because you
cannot give it to them and you don't have any milk to pump at

(01:03:49):
that moment. Like you can't pump more.
So I felt frustrated because it's seven more oz that is just
down the drain pretty much. I use different baths, but still
I was frustrated with it. Oh yeah.
And I feel like it's the same thing when you accidentally
spill milk. I have done that before and
that's. Yeah, breaking.
Yeah. It's heartbreaking.

(01:04:10):
Infuriating. Yeah, yeah.
All right. You want to do your last one.
Recently on the podcast, I talked about how I had started
therapy in October of 2020. So I am on one of those
sessions. It was a, a Zoom and I'm on this
call and so Reece's six months and Colton's watching her out in

(01:04:32):
the living room and I hear wailing, wailing.
And I'm like, I think everything's OK.
I think we can continue. And I later walk out and I was
like, hey, what happened when I was on the call or whatever?
Like I heard Reese crying like that wasn't just like a I'm
upset cry. It's like a I'm distressed cry.
And he said, I put her in the corner of a couch.

(01:04:56):
We have like a owl, whatever owlshaped couch, put her in the
corner. I love it.
And I put pillows around her andI went and I switched to
laundry. And like I said, we lived in a
glorified shoe box in Oregon. It was very, very, very small.
So we had like one of those likeaccordion fold.
That's where our washer and dryer was.
I was very close in his defense,but I gave him a very hard time

(01:05:18):
about it. And shortly after, I have her
sitting on and she's sitting there and he's like, hey, she's
really close to the edge, be careful.
And I look at him and I was like, it's fine.
This isn't the same situation aswhen you abandoned her on the
couch. I think I utter those words.
Home girl falls off. Very comedic timing here.

(01:05:39):
I am like, like, I know where she's positioned.
We do this all the time. My.
God, he should have reamed me. But he, I don't know if it's
just that he's a very gentle mannered person, but he was
very, very kind. I think he knows that you beat
yourself up more than he ever could.

(01:05:59):
Like no matter what he says, youthink you are harder on yourself
than anyone else would be. Yeah, for sure, that is true.
That is true. However, I will tell you that
when I was trying to come up with things for this, I texted
him and the first thing he said was the time that she fell off
the bed after falling off for the couch.
Top of mind for him. Am IA bad mom?

(01:06:20):
No, no Megan, you are the furthest thing from a bad mom.
You teach your kid to say pleaseand thank you before they can
say yes and no. She.
Says no. Let me tell you, she got some
Brooke. She's good with that one.
But yeah, thank you. I appreciate that.
Yes, your kids are so. Just a disclaimer for the
people, I love my kids. They take very good care of them
and I'm always seeking ways to be a better parent.

(01:06:42):
Please do not take this as negligence.
Thank you so much. Like this episode?
I don't know what I was thinking.
I thought this was going to be hilarious.
I thought fun and light hearted.I'm feeling like a crappy
parent. Oh, yeah.
I was looking them up on TikTok,just trying to see if somebody
said something that would like spark a memory for me because

(01:07:02):
you came up with this. And then I was trying to get as
many as you had or whatever. And I saw one lady say that she
was playing hide and seek with her kid and she actually locked
her child into A to a closet. And she said we rent this house.
We would think, oh, just go get the key.
She said there is no key. There's never been a key.
We don't have a key to this place.
So like she's just trying to be a good mom and engage with her

(01:07:23):
child and play in a way that this child wants and gets locked
in the closet. I didn't finish it because I was
like, oh, that one doesn't sparka memory for me.
But I don't know how the child got out.
Hopefully everything was OK. So I mean, I think this stuff
happens to everyone. I hope.
Yeah, OK. My last one also is not injury,
really didn't think of it. Clearly had a birth that took a

(01:07:44):
lot out of me and we thought it was a brilliant idea to go for a
walk. The minute we got home and I
literally almost passed out after like 10 minutes.
I was like, Taylor, I got to go back, like, I'm dizzy and sore.
Why did we think this was a goodidea?
This is terrible. And then I got home and I was
like, mom, like, I called her. I was like, I'm dizzy and don't

(01:08:06):
feel good. Somebody's going on.
And she was like, well, you lost, like, half your blood
volume, so you might want to, you know, not go for a walk.
And then she's like, also, aren't you on some pain meds?
OK, I have other thoughts on this.
My OB gave me oxy right after I gave birth to take home and I
guess that's like a common thingthat like you go home with

(01:08:27):
opioids. Don't get me wrong I was sore
but I was like ibuprofen sore. Why do they give opioids to new
moms that could potentially be depressed?
I got ibuprofen like that. The high So did I ibuprofen.
But when I told the doctor, because I had to go two days
after to get checked, I told her, like, I took the Oxy once

(01:08:51):
and I just felt very disoriented.
And she was like, oh, we just give that.
You don't have to take it. And I was like, I feel like I
should have been asked if I wanted it.
I was like, isn't the US in an opioid crisis?
Like, why are you just handing them out like candy?
I like it. As a new mom, that's
overwhelming to not be in your normal state of mind, I'm sure.

(01:09:11):
And then also you saying that you were dizzy on the walk.
I immediately thought, oh, for somebody who needed blood, very
scary. I was like, yeah, we got to go
home. I mean, you were optimistic and
I love. That I wanted to break out my
stroller. What can?
I say go sit, go sit, Yeah. Yeah, seriously, I still have,
like, ice packs in my underwear.I was like, I don't know why,

(01:09:34):
though. We're going for a walk.
So yeah, those are my Molly. Mom fails.
OK, so Molly's question for Meg,What does your perfect solo day
look like? So kids are doing something
super fun with Colton. You have as little concern about
them as you can possibly have. What would you choose if you

(01:09:57):
could do anything? So it's like you're in Michigan.
So I know that doing certain things isn't available, but if
you had no boundaries, what would you do?
I will say the first thing I thought when you said this
question is that I have to make sure that the kids have to be
doing something very engaging and very exciting so I'm not
feeling appalled to come home. If that is a place I would want

(01:10:18):
to either get together with you or I would want to go to a
coffee shop or a restaurant thatis like slow paced where I can
sit for a long period of time and order food slowly and read
while I do that slow pace things.
But I also find, I find that I like being spontaneous.
I can make. So like if I'm driving

(01:10:41):
somewhere, I see the shop that I've driven by a million times
with kids and thought, dear Lord, I could never go in there
with two kids, I want to stop innow.
So I would do some of that. Your answer was good, you want
adult time and you don't want tobe in a rush to do anything and
you want to read and eat and have some self-care.
Like that's all good. And yeah, I totally get the

(01:11:03):
wanting to randomly go into a store and one, not have to
wrangle kids, to not have to worry about how you're going to
push a stroller store and like be able to take your time and
look around and not have to makeit the quickest in and out in
the world. Yeah, I also avoid going to
places often because I despise getting them loaded and
unloaded. Like I said, Reese's buckling

(01:11:25):
herself for the most part, but they're, you know, it's just
still to wait for her. She's slow as a freaking sloth
into that car. Yeah, I did really like the day
that I went to the spa and I would do stuff like that and
money weren't a thing. But I always feel the need not
to spend a lot of money and to save it.
Serial saver all. Right.
I think that's a good answer. OK, Similar to what I would have

(01:11:47):
assumed. OK.
What are your final thoughts on that episode?
I liked it, yeah. I agree with that.
I don't know what it is, but like the more and more we do
these, the more I realize that like our personalities
complement each other so much do.
You think so? That's so nice.
Here, the way that we speak I think is different enough to

(01:12:08):
where we're not mistaken for each other if you're just
listening. We both have our own mannerisms
that I think come out and I think we like, agree enough but
disagree enough on stuff. I agree with all of those
things. I'm the most genuine version of
myself on this podcast. I feel very comfortable and
authentic. I feel like it's the most real

(01:12:29):
version of me. So God to hear you feel.
Taylor gave me, it was a long time ago, but he gave me a
compliment that I feel like I will take to my grave.
It makes me feel so good. You said that, but he was like,
there's not a version of you that's different, like the year,
the same at home when it's just us 2 in front of your friends,
in front of your family, in front of my family.

(01:12:51):
And I'm assuming you're the exact same at work.
And he's like, there's not one part of you that's different
when you're in different settings.
And I was like, I took that as such a compliment.
It's that shows a high degree ofconfidence in yourself.
You don't feel like you have to bend OR restrict or suppress
parts of you in different scenarios.

(01:13:14):
It shows a lot of confidence. Yeah, I don't know if that's a
good thing. I probably could can't relate
myself a little bit. I had fun in this episode.
I thought I was gonna be dragging and exhausted the whole
time and it like revitalized me,which is exactly what these
always do. Yes, it revitalizes me too and I
feel really good on Friday mornings, like I have social

(01:13:35):
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