July 16, 2025 • 32 mins
Join Molly and Meg as they engage in a shorter episode this week that they refer to as a power hour. Listen as they review their latest reads. Molly has a few hot takes on A Great Big Beautiful Life by Emily Henry and Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt. While Meg gives us her honest opinion of All Fours by Miranda July and a Novella, The Answer is No by Fredrik Backman.
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Welcome back to the Momsense podcast with Molly and Meg.
I'm Molly. And I'm Mike.
We're going to do something new today.
Megan and I talked about it at our last podcast meeting and I'm
very excited. So welcome to the 1st edition of
the Momsense podcast, Mom Power Hour.
I think everyone, I don't want to say everyone because maybe
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not everybody got into as much trouble as I did in my in
college. Scratch the high school thing in
college trouble, but there was aspecific game where you would
have an alcoholic beverage and every minute for an hour you
would take a sit. And we called this a power hour.
And typically you would do that before you went out with your
friends to get into even more trouble.
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Of course, we're not in the samestage of life, shall I say, as
we were. So we're doing it Mom edition.
We both have our coffees. It's morning this time.
We typically record at night after the kids go to bed.
We're recording well into the early hours of the morning, so I
think both of us are very excited to be doing it in the
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morning this time. But the other aspect of a Mom
Power Hour is that it is about asingular topic.
We're not going to do all of ourtypical updates.
We'll save that for our longer episodes.
But you are in for one topic. And today we are going to do a
book club. We're very excited because we've
got some books to chat about with you.
What's good that's good? I feel like I have different
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energy than I do it in our nightrecordings.
I'm like, happier. You have good energy.
I don't know. I need to step it up.
The caffeine will help me eventually all.
Right. All right.
How do you feel about a shorter episode?
It's gonna be a challenge cuz I think that I'm very wordy, but
you were going on a trip this week and I like the fact that
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you're not going to have to editA3 plus hour recording.
So I like it for you and I like our topic.
I think this is gonna be nice sometimes to throw in just for a
variety. No, I think that it opens up the
possibility of us having variouskinds of episodes and then we
don't have to add in a book clubsegment where we quickly run
through books in our normal episodes.
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We could do every month kind of power hour and do it that way.
Or if we have a singular topic that we feel like could be a
longer conversation that we wanted to try to shove into a
segment, we could always do it in a power hour.
And then when we're busy, it's going to be really nice to have
a shorter episode. Right, right.
Yeah, I agree with that and I like what we're talking about
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today. Yeah, me too.
Do you listen to Armchair Expert?
Yeah, from time to time. You know how on their Spotify
they have different kinds of episodes and they color code
them? We could always do a different
color code, like put a film on our typical thumbnail.
Yeah, that's a great idea. I'll just change the color
scheme in the background, like instead of the tan I could do
like the light green or something like that.
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Yeah, then people can easily pick them if they like the
shorter episodes. Yeah, that's wowing.
Great idea. Yeah.
OK. Other thing that I'm going to
quick tell you before we get into our books for this month, I
told Taylor yesterday that I would say when Penny was four
months old, so like January, I was taking her to her doctor's
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appointment. And you know how when you drive
your mind kind of wonders and you start to like, I don't know,
I get off on engines in my mind And I was like, I had this
thought and of course I never like discussed it.
It wasn't that big of a deal. But this is the exact same thing
that happened with the podcast ayear before I brought it up to
you. I had dabbled in the idea, like
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what would that be like? A year later, we're doing it.
And I was like Taylor, I had this thought that I think I
would love and I think it would thrive in the area where I live
because because it's a very cutesy area without the charm, I
would say if I opened a coffee shop, bookstore.
Yeah, sure. There's nothing like that in my
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town. There's three Starbucks, there's
like 2 big bees, but there's no cozy family owned coffee shops,
which I love and I think a lot of like young millennials love
because in our college towns there were always some, but then
also because we're not a collegetown, people wouldn't go there
to study and stuff. I think it'd be a really cute
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bookstore. There's only one independent
bookstore in town and I think that it has potential to be a
really cute idea. Of course, this would take a lot
more planning, but in my work asa therapist, I ran a side of the
business that I found thrilling,to see the profit margins and to
do all the behind the scenes business stuff.
And I think I would be really good at that.
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I'd be very invested and interested and it's a topic that
I love, brings me tons of joy. I could see myself raising Penny
in a little bookstore. Right.
And then she could work there when she's older.
So cute. Yeah.
That would be a fantastic idea. I thought of similar stuff,
like, have you seen those? What are they called?
Vans. I don't know like a van or bus
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or whatever that like goes to events and.
Traveling Bookstore. Yes, like stuff like that would
be so cool, but. That would be so cute.
Back to your point, I will say that you have like a very
analytical mind as well for somebody who like, I mean,
obviously very like mental, emotionally focused, but also
you have another side too that alot of people who have the
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emotional side don't have, whichis like very analytical, very
data. Do you like that with the
podcast, I notice as well. I thought I really.
Love visually seeing growth and that's why I thrived running
that side of my business when I was a therapist, just because I
had spreadsheet with all the numbers and all the data and how
much money that drove and where that money was going and I that
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gave me highs. At the end of every day I would
input the new numbers and see exactly what my day profited and
that made me motivated. Yeah, sure.
That would be so cool though. It's a long term dream so.
I mean, you got to start somewhere.
That's a great idea. I would come shop there.
Sweet. Yeah, Taylor was like, you could
call it beans and books. Oh dude I love it how he gets
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into like. My ideas.
I know, he just knows it. I don't know, he just seems like
supportive in that regard. Same thing with, I don't know,
the side of raising Penny where he's emotional, can like misses
things that aren't quite past yet.
He just seems like an emotional guy, a feeler.
Which is weird because before Penny he was not, Not at all.
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But he's never one when I give these crazy ideas, he's never
like cool and then moves on. He's always indulges in my
fantasies. I love that that's exactly how
it should be, but your. Sport is very nice.
It was fun to like talk about itwith him yesterday.
He was into it. OK, we're going to get into our
topic for our power hour, which of course, as we said, is book
club. But first we wanted to remind
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everybody that in episode 9, theMom Fails episode, we also did a
little bit of a book club. So if you want some more book
content, you can go back to that.
Our conversation about books starts at like the 30 minute
mark, so you can kind of Fast forward if you want to get to
it. But we typically will review
what we've been reading, talk about what we're going to read
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next to review whether or not weliked it, that kind of stuff.
I do think that for the listeners that like to read, you
get a good sense of our styles and what genres we like, and
you'll not know that Megan and Idon't have similar tastes
usually. So you'll get lots of different
recommendations depending on your taste.
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Yeah. And we love books, so I think
that this gives us an opportunity to talk more about
it. Yeah.
Yeah, agreed. The first thing I want to talk
about is how funny I think it isthat in the Mom Fails episode I
thought I was going to have fourbooks read.
By now you will see if you go down to my second book, I read a
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short story novella because I was like, she's going to come
with four books and I'm going tobe like, I read 1 and I finished
it this morning. So I listened to a short story
and I've done it with this guy before.
So I knew that I was going to moderately like it.
But I did that thinking you weregoing to be overachiever.
I like, listed off on my fingerswhich books I was going to read.
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And I only read one of those four that I talked about.
I read one that I never thought I would read, and I just thought
it was so funny that I was so cocky about it.
And yeah, I finished my book 10 minutes before we got on.
I love that honesty as well. I will say you're not being
outlandish with that prediction.You do usually read a lot of
books. But The thing is, is that you're
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a mom now and you're busy and, you know, trying to enjoy family
life and stuff like that. So I get it.
That's so funny now. Same just finished.
I will say that I'm I've been inthe middle of listening to The
Tenant by Freda McFadden for a very long time and I just kind
of came to the realization that I have to pause on my Freda
McFadden at the moment. I'm very frustrated with how
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similar they all are. And I think that's how thriller
books are when you read a lot ofthe same author is they all seem
to follow the same formula. Of course, the characters are
different, the storylines are different, the twist is
different, but there's always A twist around the same point in
the book. There's always secondary twist
100 pages later. So it's not, it's just kind of
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redundant. So I haven't finished The Tenant
and I haven't went back to it and I don't have a draw to go
back to it. So I think that I'll pause for a
little bit. I mean, Freedom McFadden,
doesn't she pump out like 5 books a year?
That's probably, yeah, an overestimate.
But like, no, you've got to havea formula at some point to be
able to maintain that whatever agreement she.
Has with the. Publisher.
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That's how I felt about James Patterson's murder mysteries.
He has a series of like 27 books, and I've read like 20 a
couple years ago, and after a while, I mean, they're like the
same. So I do think that they're
really good quick reads every once in a while, but I'm not
going to read them as they come out because that's just so many.
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So the book that I did finish isA Great Big Beautiful Life by
Emily Henry. After I read Happy Place, I was
like, I don't think I'll ever read another Emily Henry and
I've only read People We Meet onVacation and Happy Place and I
liked People We Meet on Vacation.
I read that a few years ago, so it wasn't a recent read, but I
did not like Happy Place. I felt like it was a little too
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pick me. They broke up and she's pining
and I don't like that. I want a strong female lead and
I felt like it was a little too swept up in the love.
OK, I was surprised to say that you read Emily Henry because I
knew how you felt about Happy Place.
Yeah, I figured that. We got near and told you it was
good. No, I just heard on TikTok, of
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course, that a great big beautiful life was really good
and one of her best, and I really liked it.
I was very surprised actually. It's about two authors competing
to have the opportunity to writea memoir for famous heir to a
family fortune or whatever. And she has a very complicated
life history, and they tracked her down after years of not
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being seen in the public or in the media.
And they're competing, of course, and then they fall in
love. I actually really enjoyed this
one. I felt like it was appropriate.
It wasn't so slow of a burn where you're like, OK, we know
where this is going. Like, let's go.
But it also wasn't. They meet for the very first
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time and they fall in love that night over dinner.
It wasn't a whirlwind, which I also don't love.
I thought it was good and I thought the ending was good.
I thought it was fairly realistic.
That's my bone to pick with romance books is I think every
once in a while I find one that I like because it's realistic
enough. But I don't like the unrealistic
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expectation that romance books, romance movies give.
It's just not my thing. I think that some people are
like, that's the point, right? Everybody wants to read or think
about this whirlwind fairy tale romance, and I don't I don't
like that, to be honest. It makes me better.
I love my love with Taylor like I love my life, but it's a very
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realistic love. But after my rant, it was a very
good book. I gave it a four out of five
stars. OK, that's there was an great
there was enough. I thought this book had enough
secondary plots where it like wasn't solely focused on the
couple all the time. It kept my interest throughout
the whole book, which I also think is rare for a romance book
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for me. OK.
Do you think that I would like that book?
Yeah, what Emily Henry's do you like?
I have never read her. OK, I'm trying to think of any
other romance you like Abby Jimenez, which I honestly
haven't read so I guess I don't know the style of her writing.
Yeah, and I picked her up on a whim, by the way.
Like I don't look at the the people who write romance.
I'm like I I usually don't gravitate towards and I picked
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her. I don't remember why I even
picked up her first book, but once I did, I was hooked.
So. I would say this is a great one
to give a try if you're going tolike dabble your feet.
Of course. I've only read 3 and I know that
Beach Read is supposedly like one of her best but I I did like
this one and I feel like I'm a harsh critic when it comes to
romances. OK, I am too, so that those
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words go a long way with me. Yeah.
All right. My first book that I read is
called All Fours by Miranda July.
I will say the reason that I putthis book on my TDR is because I
saw it coming up on good Reads. So I saw it, clicked on it
because I liked the cover, I think.
And then I read the back of it and I'm going to be so honest
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with you, the description on theback makes it sound so like this
middle-aged woman goes, she's a writer and she goes on a road
trip. She has like self discovery.
And I'm like, that sounds so interesting.
And it kind of makes it sound like there's almost a mystery
element to it. And I was like, that sounds so
good. I'm into that.
That'll be a nice switch up fromwhat I've been reading, which is
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a lot of romance. And I feel lied to because I
mean, yes, that is what happens in this book.
However, it's not as good as thedescription on the back,
honestly. Falsely advertised.
Yeah, I feel like totally deceived by it.
So like I said, she does go on alike she's going on a cross
country road trip for a reason that's disclosed in the book.
And she stops well before her final destination.
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Well before. And I don't know how to say it
without going into too much, butI will go into the themes
because I feel like that will give people a good a good feel
if they want to read this or not.
So definitely about self discovery, which I think I've
already said middle-aged woman who, you know, she's married,
she has a child. And so the self discovery is
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more like, you know, she's been living this life and she kind of
wakes up and is like, wait a minute.
She feels like she's getting up there in age and she's like, I
don't know if the life that I'm living is what I want.
I already don't like that. I already don't like that.
I don't like to let you have a husband and a family and then
all of a sudden you decide you don't want.
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It no, me either. I didn't like it either.
And I will also tell you that. So there's the back description
and in the 1st chapter it's like, oh, there's a person who's
outside of her house taking photos and it sounds like such a
good mystery, like what happened, who done it, like
who's stalking her sort of thing.
And it's just not that way. But the other element to this,
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which you're going to dislike even more than what I've already
disclosed I do, as well as open marriage.
And also there's like a subplot focus on perimenopause.
So very much like middle life woman having an awakening,
unraveling, basically look at it.
I don't know if I would. I dear God, I hope not.
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I don't know if I'd appreciate it or not appreciate it under
have like an understanding if I were a little bit older.
But yeah, I did not like this book.
I thought the writing was fantastic.
So this isn't necessarily a knock on Miranda July's writing
ability, but awful story. Also, it was heavily graphic and
not in a hot way. I at the end started to just
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skip through those chapters because I felt uncomfortable,
which is not like me. I'm not uncomfortable by that
stuff. I can read anything.
And I went back and I looked at what other people were saying
and I'm not in the minority and thinking that way.
Even people who brave about thisbook say I was uncomfortable.
Okay, yeah, so you're right, like great writing because she's
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clearly trying to impose the discomfort that this woman
feels, and she did. Yeah, that's exactly right.
And then the only other thing I had to say about this book is I
did switch over to audio. I don't know how far through and
it is narrated by the author, which she has the perfect voice
for this character. But I felt confused so often
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throughout the book where I would like literally go back a
few pages a chapter once just tosee like if I miss something, I
didn't. So I literally felt like she was
mocking me throughout the book. I'm like, I don't understand
what's going on. So I gave the book a two out of
five and there's only one other book in my memory that I've
given a two out of five and thatis Pretty Girls by Karen
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Slaughter. I think you didn't like that.
I hated that book. You might enjoy that book.
I'm sure I. Would I love Karen Slaughter?
There's a yes, it is both of these books someone in the world
might enjoy. They just weren't for me.
So two out of five for all foursby Miranda July.
All right. 2nd book that I read was Remarkably Bright Creatures.
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I just finished it 10 minutes before logging on.
I read it for my book club and Ithink I have an unpopular
opinion. I don't think I liked it.
It's not that I didn't like it. I mean, no, I didn't like it.
I thought it was very slow. Yeah, the last 25 pages was
heartwarming, but that's it. I didn't think it was anything
profound. I really did not like the main
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male character. Cameron.
Yeah, he's in Deadbeat. Yes, he's horrible.
Like his whole plot was that he was driving, I don't know, 15
hours from where he grew up to meet maybe his father and steal
all his money, right? And then he's just that guy that
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gets repeatedly fired from work,doesn't want to work for
anything, thinks he's entitled to everything.
He's just so unlikable. And you have to read his
storyline through the whole book.
And I was like, I and Tova, the older woman, wasn't interesting
enough to keep my interest either.
There was nothing wrong with her, but I didn't, like, fall in
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love with her, really. And yeah.
Tova. It wasn't for me.
I gave it a three out of five because I do think that the
ending was sweet and heartwarming, but I wouldn't
recommend it to people. OK, yeah, hot take.
No, I get it, I get it. I remember being mind numbingly
bored through the majority of itas well.
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Or annoyed. I love Tova so I accept no Tova
slander and I liked Marcellus, but if Marcellus was not next to
Cameron, would he be remarkable?I'd probably be pretty average.
I think it's because Cameron wasin the book that when you got to
the Marcellus chapters you were like, he's great.
I thought he was great, is what I should say.
Yeah, yeah, No, I think that like the coolest part was how
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they portrayed octopus in general.
Like an octopus is a miraculous creature.
I think the fact that you are focusing on the miraculous part
of this book being the octopus is very telling for people.
It's dull for sure. It wasn't for me and I thought
there are better heartwarming family oriented books out there.
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When do you discuss this book with your book club I.
Don't know, two of the three of us have finished it, so we're
just kind of waiting for the third girl to finish it and then
we'll talk about it. But I saw on Goodreads that the
other girl that has finished it also rated it a three out of
five. So I'm curious on her
perspective. But I gave you a rant about
romance books after I discussed the first one.
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So here is my rant about slow books.
The books that I read have to have like more going on in the
1st 3/4 of the book. That's why I DNF books because
I'm like dude, I'm sorry you're not going to keep my interest if
there's not something going on in the 1st 100 pages.
And I always switch to audio on books like that.
I just have a feeling that if I didn't have to read this for a
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book club, if I wasn't trying tofinish it before we talked about
it on here, it would have eithertaken me forever or I wouldn't
have finished it. Not because I had like AI hate
this book, it's terrible, but just because it was kind of
boring. Did you listen to did you switch
over to audio for it? Did you like it in audio?
I've heard it's great. No, like the narrator.
Oh, that's another hot take. Yes, everyone says it's better.
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I mean it's better, but I didn'tlove the narrator either.
That's actually on my and my review on our notes.
Poor audio. Whoa.
I did not like the female narrator.
I felt like there was less vocalinflection.
It was like someone was reading a book out loud.
OK. Yeah, wow, I have a lot of hot
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takes on this book. Yeah, I respect.
Interesting. I respect it.
I personally think for me, I'll write a book and however I write
a particular book, it depends highly on the book that I read
before it or even 2 books beforeit because then like, I don't
know, just like adjust my mood. So I wonder if I read, I read
it, if I read it like right now,how I would feel about it
because I've come off some booksthat I didn't have that I just
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had strong opinions about. Yeah, I bet you're not like,
well, you are in the minority according to the Internet, but I
bet you that there's a lot of people that feel the same way
that you feel about this book. Like I see it again.
So the first book I listened to on audio and I was excited
anytime I got to click my audio back on and I was dreading
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having to listen to the end of this book.
It was not something I was looking forward to.
That was the case because you started this book before you
started the Emily Henry book andyou finished the Emily Henry
book first. So I figured that your feeling
on this book was going to be like that was that was not
enjoyable. Yeah, yeah.
All right. What's your last one?
OK, my last one, like I said, isa short story that I decided to
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read because I thought Molly wasgoing to come with four books
and I didn't want to feel embarrassed.
With that being said though, I didn't just pick out of nowhere.
So I've read a short story by this guy before and Colton, my
husband, has read at least one book by this guy.
All of a sudden I'm feeling really insecure about saying his
name because I thought that I knew it.
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I just thought it was missing a common letter.
But then I heard somebody pronounce it differently online,
so we'll see. The book I read is called The
Answer is No by Frederick Bachman.
Looks like Frederick. It looks like Frederick without
the C right? And I gave it I mean 3.75.
It was a good look. I didn't want to like give it a
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four, like be so bold because I have a lot of fours.
And like it wasn't remarkable byany means, but it's about a 30
something year old guy named Lucas who prefers solitude.
He's not like people are terrible.
I hate the world. He's moving in the direction of
something that he enjoys, not hiding from things, if that
makes sense. I feel like the distinction is
important because a lot of timeswhen you hear prefer solitude,
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you immediately think it's a what happened to you sort of
thing. And he's developed a very
predictable life that aligns with this introversion and tell
a mystery unfolds in his apartment complex and he has to
address it and interact with people in this apartment
complex. So themes around this are
certainly introversion, complexities of community is
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something that I thought of. And then varying pursuits of
happiness. And yeah, should you add this to
your TBR? I don't know.
But if you need the palate cleanser, is that what they call
it, like a book in between otherbooks just to decompress from
whatever you just read? This would be a good one.
It's short. I think that Frederick Backman
is a fantastic writer. I love his humor.
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I would read his grocery list ifI got my hands on it.
So any of his short stories are good just to like.
Well, that's not true because some of them are emotional.
Yeah, this one is a good palate cleanser.
I put so 3.75 out of five. I'm gonna flip back.
OK. Also a note on the remarkably
bright creatures audio. I typically listen to audios on
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like 1.2 or one. I don't listen to them super
fast because I don't want to have to rewind if I missed
something. I had to listen to this one on
like one points. The narrator talks so slow, so
slow, like 1.7 and it was like normal paste in my mind.
So just does everybody know you could like really speed this one
up? OK, OK, So what I'm reading
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right now, I'm reading The Things We Leave Unfinished by
Rebecca Yarrows. I just started so I'm only on
page 25, but so far it's good. I think that it's going to have
an element of romance, but I've heard that it's also, it's a
Rebecca Yarrow. So it's like pretty devastating.
I'm very excited. I love those ones that have
multiple layers of course. Yeah, yeah, right.
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And it pulled you in, you said. Yes it did and we're going on
vacation so you know, last time I read 4 books on vacation so
pretty pumped. I'm going to read that.
I'm also going to bring something else.
I can't quite decide if I want to dive into the second of the
back guitar and do a Chord of Mist and Fury, I know it's
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different for me or if I want something shorter and do my
first Carly Fortune romance. I've heard I really want to read
a Golden Summer because I've heard that's incredible.
I also kind of have heard onlinethat you should read every
summer after first because they're the characters are kind
of intertwined. But the book I have at home is
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this summer Will be different and it's short.
It's like, I don't know, 300 pages or something.
I can't decide if I want to bring a long fantasy book or if
I want to bring short romance ebook.
So those are my two options. OK, bring them both, see how you
feel. Yeah, I mean, I probably will,
because who knows, I might finish them both.
I gotta read while Penny takes naps.
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Yeah, I will say I don't know ifat Qatar is very Traverse City
vibes. It's not.
I don't know what city would be guitar vibes like.
I stand by what I said though. If you are going to like a book
in that series, it will certainly be that one.
I know that everyone says that 3is fantastic.
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I don't agree. I thought 2 was great and then I
thought the last one was great and I think that most people
despise that one. So yeah, if you do read it, I'll
be very interested to hear. I will.
Read it At some point I just can't decide if I'm going to
read it right now or later because The Things We Leave
Unfinished is a big hefty book. So I don't really know if I want
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to read two really long books back-to-back.
I usually like to mix it up so that I don't get burnt out.
So I'll probably, I probably just talked to myself into a
shorter book. OK.
Yeah, there you go. OK, so.
That's what I'm reading now, andthat's what I'm going to read
next. Very nice.
OK, right now I'm reading Perfect Strangers by JT
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Gessinger. JT Gessinger?
They should have pronunciations on the backs of these books.
They should. I read Pen Pal by this person.
I don't know if JT is a girl or a boy, I have no idea.
And I liked Pen Pal a lot. This is the book that a few
episodes back I was like, oh, I have a recommendation for you,
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but it's definitely not PG. So far I really, really am
enjoying it, at least more so than the Miranda July book.
So yeah, I will see. I will say that I did make the
mistake with Pen Pal. PSA If you're going to read
these books, do not read the I should know if this person is a
boy or a girl cuz I read their bio.
I don't remember. Don't read their bio because it
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will spoil pen pal for you. And so I'm a little nervous that
it's the same thing with this book.
And if that is the case, then I probably won't read a book by
this person again, because I'll know how they all end.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then the next book that I'm going to read as of now, I think
is The Conditions of Will by Jessa Hastings.
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I saw that Brady Lockerbie read this recently and gave it a five
star and then I read the description and I was like, that
sounds really fascinating. So I'm going to give that one a
try I think as of now. Good.
I know nothing about the conditions of Will other than
Brady loved it, so I'm excited to hear what you have to say.
About it, I feel like if you read the back of it you might be
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really interested in it. OK, yeah, I'll look at the back.
Cool. I'm excited.
You should. This makes me so jazzed to read
even though I have to log off and go take care of a baby.
Yeah, right. I know.
Same. Same here.
All naps today are dedicated to editing podcasts, so I'll get
into reading on our drive up north on Wednesday, which I
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don't need your dorky glasses todo.
Must be nice. I tried to read without them.
I didn't bring them with me on our trip to Sandusky and I would
put my head down and cover the outside and it did not work.
I felt very nauseous. So I'll be very jealous of you
yet again. And you?
How far is it? Like 4 hours for you.
Nope, 3 three. It's like 3 on the dot to our
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Airbnb. OK, you got some time.
Six hours. We're gonna go during Penny's
nap, so it'll probably take her 45 minutes to fall asleep once
we get going, but then I'll havean hour of uninterrupted reading
time. OK.
As long as Taylor when he's chathe doesn't wake Penny up.
He always wakes her up like Taylor.
War because he's driving, which means that you have to manage
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after she wakes up. Gets bored sitting there while I
read or while she's napping. Like when we watch TV he has to
pause it every 5 minutes to talk.
Not even about the TV, just to chat.
I'm like why are we even watching TV?
Just turn it off if you want to talk.
Hand him a notebook and be like just write them down.
We'll we'll do brief afterwards.No, what he does is like after
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like the 5th pause, I'm like Taylor, we're never going to get
through this. He's like, I haven't talked to
you all day. I just.
Want to talk? He just loves you so much.
Poor Molly. I.
Know, I know, I know, I know. Poor me complaining about all
the attention. No, it's sweet.
OK, look at us. I'm so proud. 49 minutes and I
feel like we got through some stuff.
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Yeah, hopefully, hopefully you can add to this pretty quickly,
I mean. I hope.
Yeah. I think it's gonna be good.
Good. What are you guys doing this
weekend? My grandpas brother is coming
from Texas with his wife and hisgrandkids.
They do this trip every year, sowe're going out to see them on
Saturday. Okay, well I'm gonna get to
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Welcome back to the Momsense podcast with Molly and Meg.
I'm Molly. And I'm Mike.
We're going to do something new today.
Megan and I talked about it at our last podcast meeting and I'm
very excited. So welcome to the 1st edition of
the Momsense podcast, Mom Power Hour.
I think everyone, I don't want to say everyone because maybe
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not everybody got into as much trouble as I did in my in
college. Scratch the high school thing in
college trouble, but there was aspecific game where you would
have an alcoholic beverage and every minute for an hour you
would take a sit. And we called this a power hour.
And typically you would do that before you went out with your
friends to get into even more trouble.
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Of course, we're not in the samestage of life, shall I say, as
we were. So we're doing it Mom edition.
We both have our coffees. It's morning this time.
We typically record at night after the kids go to bed.
We're recording well into the early hours of the morning, so I
think both of us are very excited to be doing it in the
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morning this time. But the other aspect of a Mom
Power Hour is that it is about asingular topic.
We're not going to do all of ourtypical updates.
We'll save that for our longer episodes.
But you are in for one topic. And today we are going to do a
book club. We're very excited because we've
got some books to chat about with you.
What's good that's good? I feel like I have different
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energy than I do it in our nightrecordings.
I'm like, happier. You have good energy.
I don't know. I need to step it up.
The caffeine will help me eventually all.
Right. All right.
How do you feel about a shorter episode?
It's gonna be a challenge cuz I think that I'm very wordy, but
you were going on a trip this week and I like the fact that
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you're not going to have to editA3 plus hour recording.
So I like it for you and I like our topic.
I think this is gonna be nice sometimes to throw in just for a
variety. No, I think that it opens up the
possibility of us having variouskinds of episodes and then we
don't have to add in a book clubsegment where we quickly run
through books in our normal episodes.
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We could do every month kind of power hour and do it that way.
Or if we have a singular topic that we feel like could be a
longer conversation that we wanted to try to shove into a
segment, we could always do it in a power hour.
And then when we're busy, it's going to be really nice to have
a shorter episode. Right, right.
Yeah, I agree with that and I like what we're talking about
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today. Yeah, me too.
Do you listen to Armchair Expert?
Yeah, from time to time. You know how on their Spotify
they have different kinds of episodes and they color code
them? We could always do a different
color code, like put a film on our typical thumbnail.
Yeah, that's a great idea. I'll just change the color
scheme in the background, like instead of the tan I could do
like the light green or something like that.
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Yeah, then people can easily pick them if they like the
shorter episodes. Yeah, that's wowing.
Great idea. Yeah.
OK. Other thing that I'm going to
quick tell you before we get into our books for this month, I
told Taylor yesterday that I would say when Penny was four
months old, so like January, I was taking her to her doctor's
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appointment. And you know how when you drive
your mind kind of wonders and you start to like, I don't know,
I get off on engines in my mind And I was like, I had this
thought and of course I never like discussed it.
It wasn't that big of a deal. But this is the exact same thing
that happened with the podcast ayear before I brought it up to
you. I had dabbled in the idea, like
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what would that be like? A year later, we're doing it.
And I was like Taylor, I had this thought that I think I
would love and I think it would thrive in the area where I live
because because it's a very cutesy area without the charm, I
would say if I opened a coffee shop, bookstore.
Yeah, sure. There's nothing like that in my
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town. There's three Starbucks, there's
like 2 big bees, but there's no cozy family owned coffee shops,
which I love and I think a lot of like young millennials love
because in our college towns there were always some, but then
also because we're not a collegetown, people wouldn't go there
to study and stuff. I think it'd be a really cute
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bookstore. There's only one independent
bookstore in town and I think that it has potential to be a
really cute idea. Of course, this would take a lot
more planning, but in my work asa therapist, I ran a side of the
business that I found thrilling,to see the profit margins and to
do all the behind the scenes business stuff.
And I think I would be really good at that.
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I'd be very invested and interested and it's a topic that
I love, brings me tons of joy. I could see myself raising Penny
in a little bookstore. Right.
And then she could work there when she's older.
So cute. Yeah.
That would be a fantastic idea. I thought of similar stuff,
like, have you seen those? What are they called?
Vans. I don't know like a van or bus
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or whatever that like goes to events and.
Traveling Bookstore. Yes, like stuff like that would
be so cool, but. That would be so cute.
Back to your point, I will say that you have like a very
analytical mind as well for somebody who like, I mean,
obviously very like mental, emotionally focused, but also
you have another side too that alot of people who have the
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emotional side don't have, whichis like very analytical, very
data. Do you like that with the
podcast, I notice as well. I thought I really.
Love visually seeing growth and that's why I thrived running
that side of my business when I was a therapist, just because I
had spreadsheet with all the numbers and all the data and how
much money that drove and where that money was going and I that
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gave me highs. At the end of every day I would
input the new numbers and see exactly what my day profited and
that made me motivated. Yeah, sure.
That would be so cool though. It's a long term dream so.
I mean, you got to start somewhere.
That's a great idea. I would come shop there.
Sweet. Yeah, Taylor was like, you could
call it beans and books. Oh dude I love it how he gets
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into like. My ideas.
I know, he just knows it. I don't know, he just seems like
supportive in that regard. Same thing with, I don't know,
the side of raising Penny where he's emotional, can like misses
things that aren't quite past yet.
He just seems like an emotional guy, a feeler.
Which is weird because before Penny he was not, Not at all.
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But he's never one when I give these crazy ideas, he's never
like cool and then moves on. He's always indulges in my
fantasies. I love that that's exactly how
it should be, but your. Sport is very nice.
It was fun to like talk about itwith him yesterday.
He was into it. OK, we're going to get into our
topic for our power hour, which of course, as we said, is book
club. But first we wanted to remind
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everybody that in episode 9, theMom Fails episode, we also did a
little bit of a book club. So if you want some more book
content, you can go back to that.
Our conversation about books starts at like the 30 minute
mark, so you can kind of Fast forward if you want to get to
it. But we typically will review
what we've been reading, talk about what we're going to read
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next to review whether or not weliked it, that kind of stuff.
I do think that for the listeners that like to read, you
get a good sense of our styles and what genres we like, and
you'll not know that Megan and Idon't have similar tastes
usually. So you'll get lots of different
recommendations depending on your taste.
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Yeah. And we love books, so I think
that this gives us an opportunity to talk more about
it. Yeah.
Yeah, agreed. The first thing I want to talk
about is how funny I think it isthat in the Mom Fails episode I
thought I was going to have fourbooks read.
By now you will see if you go down to my second book, I read a
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short story novella because I was like, she's going to come
with four books and I'm going tobe like, I read 1 and I finished
it this morning. So I listened to a short story
and I've done it with this guy before.
So I knew that I was going to moderately like it.
But I did that thinking you weregoing to be overachiever.
I like, listed off on my fingerswhich books I was going to read.
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And I only read one of those four that I talked about.
I read one that I never thought I would read, and I just thought
it was so funny that I was so cocky about it.
And yeah, I finished my book 10 minutes before we got on.
I love that honesty as well. I will say you're not being
outlandish with that prediction.You do usually read a lot of
books. But The thing is, is that you're
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a mom now and you're busy and, you know, trying to enjoy family
life and stuff like that. So I get it.
That's so funny now. Same just finished.
I will say that I'm I've been inthe middle of listening to The
Tenant by Freda McFadden for a very long time and I just kind
of came to the realization that I have to pause on my Freda
McFadden at the moment. I'm very frustrated with how
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similar they all are. And I think that's how thriller
books are when you read a lot ofthe same author is they all seem
to follow the same formula. Of course, the characters are
different, the storylines are different, the twist is
different, but there's always A twist around the same point in
the book. There's always secondary twist
100 pages later. So it's not, it's just kind of
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redundant. So I haven't finished The Tenant
and I haven't went back to it and I don't have a draw to go
back to it. So I think that I'll pause for a
little bit. I mean, Freedom McFadden,
doesn't she pump out like 5 books a year?
That's probably, yeah, an overestimate.
But like, no, you've got to havea formula at some point to be
able to maintain that whatever agreement she.
Has with the. Publisher.
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That's how I felt about James Patterson's murder mysteries.
He has a series of like 27 books, and I've read like 20 a
couple years ago, and after a while, I mean, they're like the
same. So I do think that they're
really good quick reads every once in a while, but I'm not
going to read them as they come out because that's just so many.
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So the book that I did finish isA Great Big Beautiful Life by
Emily Henry. After I read Happy Place, I was
like, I don't think I'll ever read another Emily Henry and
I've only read People We Meet onVacation and Happy Place and I
liked People We Meet on Vacation.
I read that a few years ago, so it wasn't a recent read, but I
did not like Happy Place. I felt like it was a little too
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pick me. They broke up and she's pining
and I don't like that. I want a strong female lead and
I felt like it was a little too swept up in the love.
OK, I was surprised to say that you read Emily Henry because I
knew how you felt about Happy Place.
Yeah, I figured that. We got near and told you it was
good. No, I just heard on TikTok, of
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course, that a great big beautiful life was really good
and one of her best, and I really liked it.
I was very surprised actually. It's about two authors competing
to have the opportunity to writea memoir for famous heir to a
family fortune or whatever. And she has a very complicated
life history, and they tracked her down after years of not
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being seen in the public or in the media.
And they're competing, of course, and then they fall in
love. I actually really enjoyed this
one. I felt like it was appropriate.
It wasn't so slow of a burn where you're like, OK, we know
where this is going. Like, let's go.
But it also wasn't. They meet for the very first
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time and they fall in love that night over dinner.
It wasn't a whirlwind, which I also don't love.
I thought it was good and I thought the ending was good.
I thought it was fairly realistic.
That's my bone to pick with romance books is I think every
once in a while I find one that I like because it's realistic
enough. But I don't like the unrealistic
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expectation that romance books, romance movies give.
It's just not my thing. I think that some people are
like, that's the point, right? Everybody wants to read or think
about this whirlwind fairy tale romance, and I don't I don't
like that, to be honest. It makes me better.
I love my love with Taylor like I love my life, but it's a very
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realistic love. But after my rant, it was a very
good book. I gave it a four out of five
stars. OK, that's there was an great
there was enough. I thought this book had enough
secondary plots where it like wasn't solely focused on the
couple all the time. It kept my interest throughout
the whole book, which I also think is rare for a romance book
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for me. OK.
Do you think that I would like that book?
Yeah, what Emily Henry's do you like?
I have never read her. OK, I'm trying to think of any
other romance you like Abby Jimenez, which I honestly
haven't read so I guess I don't know the style of her writing.
Yeah, and I picked her up on a whim, by the way.
Like I don't look at the the people who write romance.
I'm like I I usually don't gravitate towards and I picked
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her. I don't remember why I even
picked up her first book, but once I did, I was hooked.
So. I would say this is a great one
to give a try if you're going tolike dabble your feet.
Of course. I've only read 3 and I know that
Beach Read is supposedly like one of her best but I I did like
this one and I feel like I'm a harsh critic when it comes to
romances. OK, I am too, so that those
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words go a long way with me. Yeah.
All right. My first book that I read is
called All Fours by Miranda July.
I will say the reason that I putthis book on my TDR is because I
saw it coming up on good Reads. So I saw it, clicked on it
because I liked the cover, I think.
And then I read the back of it and I'm going to be so honest
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with you, the description on theback makes it sound so like this
middle-aged woman goes, she's a writer and she goes on a road
trip. She has like self discovery.
And I'm like, that sounds so interesting.
And it kind of makes it sound like there's almost a mystery
element to it. And I was like, that sounds so
good. I'm into that.
That'll be a nice switch up fromwhat I've been reading, which is
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a lot of romance. And I feel lied to because I
mean, yes, that is what happens in this book.
However, it's not as good as thedescription on the back,
honestly. Falsely advertised.
Yeah, I feel like totally deceived by it.
So like I said, she does go on alike she's going on a cross
country road trip for a reason that's disclosed in the book.
And she stops well before her final destination.
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Well before. And I don't know how to say it
without going into too much, butI will go into the themes
because I feel like that will give people a good a good feel
if they want to read this or not.
So definitely about self discovery, which I think I've
already said middle-aged woman who, you know, she's married,
she has a child. And so the self discovery is
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more like, you know, she's been living this life and she kind of
wakes up and is like, wait a minute.
She feels like she's getting up there in age and she's like, I
don't know if the life that I'm living is what I want.
I already don't like that. I already don't like that.
I don't like to let you have a husband and a family and then
all of a sudden you decide you don't want.
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It no, me either. I didn't like it either.
And I will also tell you that. So there's the back description
and in the 1st chapter it's like, oh, there's a person who's
outside of her house taking photos and it sounds like such a
good mystery, like what happened, who done it, like
who's stalking her sort of thing.
And it's just not that way. But the other element to this,
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which you're going to dislike even more than what I've already
disclosed I do, as well as open marriage.
And also there's like a subplot focus on perimenopause.
So very much like middle life woman having an awakening,
unraveling, basically look at it.
I don't know if I would. I dear God, I hope not.
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I don't know if I'd appreciate it or not appreciate it under
have like an understanding if I were a little bit older.
But yeah, I did not like this book.
I thought the writing was fantastic.
So this isn't necessarily a knock on Miranda July's writing
ability, but awful story. Also, it was heavily graphic and
not in a hot way. I at the end started to just
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skip through those chapters because I felt uncomfortable,
which is not like me. I'm not uncomfortable by that
stuff. I can read anything.
And I went back and I looked at what other people were saying
and I'm not in the minority and thinking that way.
Even people who brave about thisbook say I was uncomfortable.
Okay, yeah, so you're right, like great writing because she's
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clearly trying to impose the discomfort that this woman
feels, and she did. Yeah, that's exactly right.
And then the only other thing I had to say about this book is I
did switch over to audio. I don't know how far through and
it is narrated by the author, which she has the perfect voice
for this character. But I felt confused so often
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throughout the book where I would like literally go back a
few pages a chapter once just tosee like if I miss something, I
didn't. So I literally felt like she was
mocking me throughout the book. I'm like, I don't understand
what's going on. So I gave the book a two out of
five and there's only one other book in my memory that I've
given a two out of five and thatis Pretty Girls by Karen
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Slaughter. I think you didn't like that.
I hated that book. You might enjoy that book.
I'm sure I. Would I love Karen Slaughter?
There's a yes, it is both of these books someone in the world
might enjoy. They just weren't for me.
So two out of five for all foursby Miranda July.
All right. 2nd book that I read was Remarkably Bright Creatures.
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I just finished it 10 minutes before logging on.
I read it for my book club and Ithink I have an unpopular
opinion. I don't think I liked it.
It's not that I didn't like it. I mean, no, I didn't like it.
I thought it was very slow. Yeah, the last 25 pages was
heartwarming, but that's it. I didn't think it was anything
profound. I really did not like the main
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male character. Cameron.
Yeah, he's in Deadbeat. Yes, he's horrible.
Like his whole plot was that he was driving, I don't know, 15
hours from where he grew up to meet maybe his father and steal
all his money, right? And then he's just that guy that
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gets repeatedly fired from work,doesn't want to work for
anything, thinks he's entitled to everything.
He's just so unlikable. And you have to read his
storyline through the whole book.
And I was like, I and Tova, the older woman, wasn't interesting
enough to keep my interest either.
There was nothing wrong with her, but I didn't, like, fall in
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love with her, really. And yeah.
Tova. It wasn't for me.
I gave it a three out of five because I do think that the
ending was sweet and heartwarming, but I wouldn't
recommend it to people. OK, yeah, hot take.
No, I get it, I get it. I remember being mind numbingly
bored through the majority of itas well.
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Or annoyed. I love Tova so I accept no Tova
slander and I liked Marcellus, but if Marcellus was not next to
Cameron, would he be remarkable?I'd probably be pretty average.
I think it's because Cameron wasin the book that when you got to
the Marcellus chapters you were like, he's great.
I thought he was great, is what I should say.
Yeah, yeah, No, I think that like the coolest part was how
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they portrayed octopus in general.
Like an octopus is a miraculous creature.
I think the fact that you are focusing on the miraculous part
of this book being the octopus is very telling for people.
It's dull for sure. It wasn't for me and I thought
there are better heartwarming family oriented books out there.
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When do you discuss this book with your book club I.
Don't know, two of the three of us have finished it, so we're
just kind of waiting for the third girl to finish it and then
we'll talk about it. But I saw on Goodreads that the
other girl that has finished it also rated it a three out of
five. So I'm curious on her
perspective. But I gave you a rant about
romance books after I discussed the first one.
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So here is my rant about slow books.
The books that I read have to have like more going on in the
1st 3/4 of the book. That's why I DNF books because
I'm like dude, I'm sorry you're not going to keep my interest if
there's not something going on in the 1st 100 pages.
And I always switch to audio on books like that.
I just have a feeling that if I didn't have to read this for a
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book club, if I wasn't trying tofinish it before we talked about
it on here, it would have eithertaken me forever or I wouldn't
have finished it. Not because I had like AI hate
this book, it's terrible, but just because it was kind of
boring. Did you listen to did you switch
over to audio for it? Did you like it in audio?
I've heard it's great. No, like the narrator.
Oh, that's another hot take. Yes, everyone says it's better.
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I mean it's better, but I didn'tlove the narrator either.
That's actually on my and my review on our notes.
Poor audio. Whoa.
I did not like the female narrator.
I felt like there was less vocalinflection.
It was like someone was reading a book out loud.
OK. Yeah, wow, I have a lot of hot
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takes on this book. Yeah, I respect.
Interesting. I respect it.
I personally think for me, I'll write a book and however I write
a particular book, it depends highly on the book that I read
before it or even 2 books beforeit because then like, I don't
know, just like adjust my mood. So I wonder if I read, I read
it, if I read it like right now,how I would feel about it
because I've come off some booksthat I didn't have that I just
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had strong opinions about. Yeah, I bet you're not like,
well, you are in the minority according to the Internet, but I
bet you that there's a lot of people that feel the same way
that you feel about this book. Like I see it again.
So the first book I listened to on audio and I was excited
anytime I got to click my audio back on and I was dreading
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having to listen to the end of this book.
It was not something I was looking forward to.
That was the case because you started this book before you
started the Emily Henry book andyou finished the Emily Henry
book first. So I figured that your feeling
on this book was going to be like that was that was not
enjoyable. Yeah, yeah.
All right. What's your last one?
OK, my last one, like I said, isa short story that I decided to
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read because I thought Molly wasgoing to come with four books
and I didn't want to feel embarrassed.
With that being said though, I didn't just pick out of nowhere.
So I've read a short story by this guy before and Colton, my
husband, has read at least one book by this guy.
All of a sudden I'm feeling really insecure about saying his
name because I thought that I knew it.
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I just thought it was missing a common letter.
But then I heard somebody pronounce it differently online,
so we'll see. The book I read is called The
Answer is No by Frederick Bachman.
Looks like Frederick. It looks like Frederick without
the C right? And I gave it I mean 3.75.
It was a good look. I didn't want to like give it a
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four, like be so bold because I have a lot of fours.
And like it wasn't remarkable byany means, but it's about a 30
something year old guy named Lucas who prefers solitude.
He's not like people are terrible.
I hate the world. He's moving in the direction of
something that he enjoys, not hiding from things, if that
makes sense. I feel like the distinction is
important because a lot of timeswhen you hear prefer solitude,
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you immediately think it's a what happened to you sort of
thing. And he's developed a very
predictable life that aligns with this introversion and tell
a mystery unfolds in his apartment complex and he has to
address it and interact with people in this apartment
complex. So themes around this are
certainly introversion, complexities of community is
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something that I thought of. And then varying pursuits of
happiness. And yeah, should you add this to
your TBR? I don't know.
But if you need the palate cleanser, is that what they call
it, like a book in between otherbooks just to decompress from
whatever you just read? This would be a good one.
It's short. I think that Frederick Backman
is a fantastic writer. I love his humor.
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I would read his grocery list ifI got my hands on it.
So any of his short stories are good just to like.
Well, that's not true because some of them are emotional.
Yeah, this one is a good palate cleanser.
I put so 3.75 out of five. I'm gonna flip back.
OK. Also a note on the remarkably
bright creatures audio. I typically listen to audios on
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like 1.2 or one. I don't listen to them super
fast because I don't want to have to rewind if I missed
something. I had to listen to this one on
like one points. The narrator talks so slow, so
slow, like 1.7 and it was like normal paste in my mind.
So just does everybody know you could like really speed this one
up? OK, OK, So what I'm reading
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right now, I'm reading The Things We Leave Unfinished by
Rebecca Yarrows. I just started so I'm only on
page 25, but so far it's good. I think that it's going to have
an element of romance, but I've heard that it's also, it's a
Rebecca Yarrow. So it's like pretty devastating.
I'm very excited. I love those ones that have
multiple layers of course. Yeah, yeah, right.
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And it pulled you in, you said. Yes it did and we're going on
vacation so you know, last time I read 4 books on vacation so
pretty pumped. I'm going to read that.
I'm also going to bring something else.
I can't quite decide if I want to dive into the second of the
back guitar and do a Chord of Mist and Fury, I know it's
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different for me or if I want something shorter and do my
first Carly Fortune romance. I've heard I really want to read
a Golden Summer because I've heard that's incredible.
I also kind of have heard onlinethat you should read every
summer after first because they're the characters are kind
of intertwined. But the book I have at home is
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this summer Will be different and it's short.
It's like, I don't know, 300 pages or something.
I can't decide if I want to bring a long fantasy book or if
I want to bring short romance ebook.
So those are my two options. OK, bring them both, see how you
feel. Yeah, I mean, I probably will,
because who knows, I might finish them both.
I gotta read while Penny takes naps.
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Yeah, I will say I don't know ifat Qatar is very Traverse City
vibes. It's not.
I don't know what city would be guitar vibes like.
I stand by what I said though. If you are going to like a book
in that series, it will certainly be that one.
I know that everyone says that 3is fantastic.
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I don't agree. I thought 2 was great and then I
thought the last one was great and I think that most people
despise that one. So yeah, if you do read it, I'll
be very interested to hear. I will.
Read it At some point I just can't decide if I'm going to
read it right now or later because The Things We Leave
Unfinished is a big hefty book. So I don't really know if I want
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to read two really long books back-to-back.
I usually like to mix it up so that I don't get burnt out.
So I'll probably, I probably just talked to myself into a
shorter book. OK.
Yeah, there you go. OK, so.
That's what I'm reading now, andthat's what I'm going to read
next. Very nice.
OK, right now I'm reading Perfect Strangers by JT
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Gessinger. JT Gessinger?
They should have pronunciations on the backs of these books.
They should. I read Pen Pal by this person.
I don't know if JT is a girl or a boy, I have no idea.
And I liked Pen Pal a lot. This is the book that a few
episodes back I was like, oh, I have a recommendation for you,
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but it's definitely not PG. So far I really, really am
enjoying it, at least more so than the Miranda July book.
So yeah, I will see. I will say that I did make the
mistake with Pen Pal. PSA If you're going to read
these books, do not read the I should know if this person is a
boy or a girl cuz I read their bio.
I don't remember. Don't read their bio because it
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will spoil pen pal for you. And so I'm a little nervous that
it's the same thing with this book.
And if that is the case, then I probably won't read a book by
this person again, because I'll know how they all end.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then the next book that I'm going to read as of now, I think
is The Conditions of Will by Jessa Hastings.
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I saw that Brady Lockerbie read this recently and gave it a five
star and then I read the description and I was like, that
sounds really fascinating. So I'm going to give that one a
try I think as of now. Good.
I know nothing about the conditions of Will other than
Brady loved it, so I'm excited to hear what you have to say.
About it, I feel like if you read the back of it you might be
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really interested in it. OK, yeah, I'll look at the back.
Cool. I'm excited.
You should. This makes me so jazzed to read
even though I have to log off and go take care of a baby.
Yeah, right. I know.
Same. Same here.
All naps today are dedicated to editing podcasts, so I'll get
into reading on our drive up north on Wednesday, which I
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don't need your dorky glasses todo.
Must be nice. I tried to read without them.
I didn't bring them with me on our trip to Sandusky and I would
put my head down and cover the outside and it did not work.
I felt very nauseous. So I'll be very jealous of you
yet again. And you?
How far is it? Like 4 hours for you.
Nope, 3 three. It's like 3 on the dot to our
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Airbnb. OK, you got some time.
Six hours. We're gonna go during Penny's
nap, so it'll probably take her 45 minutes to fall asleep once
we get going, but then I'll havean hour of uninterrupted reading
time. OK.
As long as Taylor when he's chathe doesn't wake Penny up.
He always wakes her up like Taylor.
War because he's driving, which means that you have to manage
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after she wakes up. Gets bored sitting there while I
read or while she's napping. Like when we watch TV he has to
pause it every 5 minutes to talk.
Not even about the TV, just to chat.
I'm like why are we even watching TV?
Just turn it off if you want to talk.
Hand him a notebook and be like just write them down.
We'll we'll do brief afterwards.No, what he does is like after
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like the 5th pause, I'm like Taylor, we're never going to get
through this. He's like, I haven't talked to
you all day. I just.
Want to talk? He just loves you so much.
Poor Molly. I.
Know, I know, I know, I know. Poor me complaining about all
the attention. No, it's sweet.
OK, look at us. I'm so proud. 49 minutes and I
feel like we got through some stuff.
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Yeah, hopefully, hopefully you can add to this pretty quickly,
I mean. I hope.
Yeah. I think it's gonna be good.
Good. What are you guys doing this
weekend? My grandpas brother is coming
from Texas with his wife and hisgrandkids.
They do this trip every year, sowe're going out to see them on
Saturday. Okay, well I'm gonna get to
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